Man these are helpful.... I've run and set up HAAS for about 2 years. But now I've changed jobs and it's mostly Mazak lathe and mill with some HAAS. But as of tomorrow I start Mazak
I've just found your videos as I'm thinking of getting a mazak...and I have to say congratulations and a job well done. .without a doubt the best mazak tutorials I've seen so far...particularly like your easy to follow instructions and like seeing the programme executed and a finished part coming off... Got yourself another sub 👍. .. Will you be doing tips on mazak milling too? .. 🍻 from South Wales
Thank you for the positive feedback! I do not own a Mazak mill, so no, cannot do any milling videos. I will eventually show the live tooling operations in my lathe, but it's not the same programming as a mill.
Yes, but on the older controls, you have to adjust the geometry on the backside of the groove the same distance as the flat on the grooving tool. I am planning on making a video showing that.
Great phil Any chance of showing how to make so 5 of the same part but in one set up ? Ie part off first part then start the same part again say 25mm wide so the facing tool Will move in z 25mm plus say .1 (.004”) to face next part. And could you measure how many parts you want say you could get 5 parts off before you get near chuck.. Is this something you could show please ?
Hi Phil nice video . Was wondering what was the width of your grooving tool . I calculated that the width in the bottom of the groove would be .1452 so allowing for a finish cut of .005 per side that would take it down to .1352 .So I'm guessing you would have used a 3mm/.118 width of tool to have clearance ,am I right ?
Hi Phil. I need to make the right side finished groove, The part is long and has a drilled hole, in this case, I need to start grooving out material from the right side towards the chuck, but Mazatrol 640T starts grooving from the chuck side. Is it possible to change the grooving direction?
One method that works is to use groove type 0 and make groove width same as grooving insert. You then tell process you have say 10 grooves on that process and set grooving pitch to less than groove width. This will cut overlapping grooves toward the chuck. Adjust the pitch to get the total width you need then run a finish pass groove type 1. I should probably make a video in the near future about it.
I need a taper from the right side so this was a bit complicated. I wonder why Mazatrol even makes growing from Chuck's side it ruined the rigidity. Maybe there is a dedicated parameter for changing direction. @@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
Have you done any internal spline broaching with these old machines? It should be able to be accomplished with the c axis indexing but have yet to see it done with mazatrol. Love the videos!
Nope. I have not tried broaching on my old machine. It would take a LOT of coding using the Manual Milling Process MMP just to do a simple keyway, but it would be possible.
The older controls will not allow you to machine a full radius in the bottom of a groove. There needs to be a flat at the bottom. To get around that issue, I would program that feature using a bar out but use the groove tool as the cutting tool. I'm going to show that type of stuff in later videos.
That is usually caused by groove tool being too wide for the particular groove. This is also caused by the bottom radius you may have programmed in the groove bottom. Try changing the groove tool to a narrower tool.
Sorry, I never explained that part. My machine has only one gear so I just leave that field blank. The gear selection is only used for roughing process in Mazatrol. The finish operation will automatically select the correct gear. You really don't need to select anything though and the machine will do it for you. You do need to select a gear for manual process though.
Phil i am doing OD grooving like the pulley your doing in this video but these are radius oil groove slots 3 spaced out on a shaft. I have a .078 wide full nose radius groove tool in machine how do i put the radius in the groove line? they currently look like a V shape on graphics? Thanks! TL
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Are you for hire? :) even with your videos i lose way too much time programming but i am a weekend machinist in my recent years and still new to mazak.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 hey Phil i tried the groove i manipulated the OD and but i have to manipulate everything to get results if i do it on CAM everything is fine ? do you have a solution?
@@christophercolumbus8944 Groove 0 is programmed from left edge of the groove. It should work. I've done it when I had to use a grooving tool same width as the slot like you mentioned.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 no i know on the fusio640 it is a little different there are actually MORE options can you explain this issue with the degree ? and the negative number? and which item gets the "?" if the degree is inputted? cause if they all have numbers then putting a degree wont work right?
@@christophercolumbus8944 The ? Is to calculate the unknown value. You need 3 values to calculate the 4th value for a grooving operation. Negative number on the angle is when the machine needs to calculate the angle downward into more material. The ? Is not needed if you know all 4 X and Z points of the groove.
You need to create a file folder in your USB stick on a computer for the machine to read or write to USB. It will not work writing a file to the parent USB drive.
great explanation but all of that for a poor result so many long chips and too slow programming when is simplier to do in old FANUC with classic G0 and G1 on screen ^^ no arrogance only facts
Great! I have had my machine 3-4 years and I am learning a lot in these.
Thanks Pete! MUCH more to come. Stay tuned.
Man these are helpful.... I've run and set up HAAS for about 2 years. But now I've changed jobs and it's mostly Mazak lathe and mill with some HAAS. But as of tomorrow I start Mazak
Thanks Freddy.
Excelente vídeos,haven’t touch a Mazak for many years but this is great info.
Thanks for the compliment.
Thanks I’ll keep watching your videos,I’m thinking of buying a used mazak lathe,and a lot of this excellent info will be very helpful.
I've just found your videos as I'm thinking of getting a mazak...and I have to say congratulations and a job well done. .without a doubt the best mazak tutorials I've seen so far...particularly like your easy to follow instructions and like seeing the programme executed and a finished part coming off...
Got yourself another sub 👍. ..
Will you be doing tips on mazak milling too? ..
🍻 from South Wales
Thank you for the positive feedback! I do not own a Mazak mill, so no, cannot do any milling videos. I will eventually show the live tooling operations in my lathe, but it's not the same programming as a mill.
There no class like this guy, very detail
Thanks for the compliment.
Thank you, very much, you are a great teacher!!!!
i love your content you have definitely shown me alot 1st time mazak user
Thanks for the compliment.
Thanks for sharing. Some guys must be learning from you. You can bar out these grooves using your square grooving too.
Yes, but on the older controls, you have to adjust the geometry on the backside of the groove the same distance as the flat on the grooving tool. I am planning on making a video showing that.
Thank you for sharing your video!
can you make C-BARIER Teach? thank you!
@@tuner453 Sure thing. Thanks for the suggestion.
Great phil
Any chance of showing how to make so 5 of the same part but in one set up ?
Ie part off first part then start the same part again say 25mm wide so the facing tool
Will move in z 25mm plus say .1 (.004”) to face next part.
And could you measure how many parts you want say you could get 5 parts off before you get near chuck.. Is this something you could show please ?
Yes I already made a video about it. See my video on the end process.
Hi Phil nice video .
Was wondering what was the width of your grooving tool .
I calculated that the width in the bottom of the groove would be
.1452 so allowing for a finish cut of .005 per side that would take it down to .1352 .So I'm guessing you would have used a 3mm/.118 width of tool to have clearance ,am I right ?
Thanks for your videos. can you make an extended video of how to do the workoffset and tooloffset?
Not a problem. I will add that to my list. Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Phil. I need to make the right side finished groove, The part is long and has a drilled hole, in this case, I need to start grooving out material from the right side towards the chuck, but Mazatrol 640T starts grooving from the chuck side. Is it possible to change the grooving direction?
One method that works is to use groove type 0 and make groove width same as grooving insert. You then tell process you have say 10 grooves on that process and set grooving pitch to less than groove width. This will cut overlapping grooves toward the chuck. Adjust the pitch to get the total width you need then run a finish pass groove type 1. I should probably make a video in the near future about it.
I need a taper from the right side so this was a bit complicated. I wonder why Mazatrol even makes growing from Chuck's side it ruined the rigidity. Maybe there is a dedicated parameter for changing direction. @@mazatroltipsandtricks6816
Have you done any internal spline broaching with these old machines? It should be able to be accomplished with the c axis indexing but have yet to see it done with mazatrol. Love the videos!
Nope. I have not tried broaching on my old machine. It would take a LOT of coding using the Manual Milling Process MMP just to do a simple keyway, but it would be possible.
Please help to make relief grooves on shaft o.d. .
Hai thank you so much
You're welcome.
got it thanks
How would you turn a circular groove say 1/2" long 1/4" radius. Fantastic video. I am looking forward to seeing more.
The older controls will not allow you to machine a full radius in the bottom of a groove. There needs to be a flat at the bottom. To get around that issue, I would program that feature using a bar out but use the groove tool as the cutting tool. I'm going to show that type of stuff in later videos.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I am trying to cut a cable groove, radius at the bottom of a groove. Cable size is 9/16".
Running Mazatrol T2.
@@HarleyRyder Check out my other video with Copy Out Radius on the thumbnail. It shows you what you need to do. Thanks.
Hello sir please help me how to solve 120 soft limit alarm
Hey Phil I need your help I have 533 illegal groove width
don’t know what’s causing that problem.
That is usually caused by groove tool being too wide for the particular groove. This is also caused by the bottom radius you may have programmed in the groove bottom. Try changing the groove tool to a narrower tool.
How do you program the gear shift? Is it like G96 and G97?
Sorry, I never explained that part. My machine has only one gear so I just leave that field blank. The gear selection is only used for roughing process in Mazatrol. The finish operation will automatically select the correct gear. You really don't need to select anything though and the machine will do it for you. You do need to select a gear for manual process though.
ok i will look for it Is it possible to send link ?
thanks again,
Skip.
Look for the video with end on the thumbnail. I have two.
good .like
Phil i am doing OD grooving like the pulley your doing in this video but these are radius oil groove slots 3 spaced out on a shaft. I have a .078 wide full nose radius groove tool in machine how do i put the radius in the groove line? they currently look like a V shape on graphics? Thanks! TL
What control do you have?
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 T PLUS sorry
@@toddlinder9447 You put the radius at final corner when describing the groove shape.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Are you for hire? :) even with your videos i lose way too much time programming but i am a weekend machinist in my recent years and still new to mazak.
@@toddlinder9447 It gets easier as you go.
did anyone catch that? 2:58 ??
did you do it before you made the video or did mazatrol outsmart itself?
I programmed the part and tested the toolpath before I filmed the video. Good catch.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 hey Phil i tried the groove i manipulated the OD and but i have to manipulate everything to get results
if i do it on CAM everything is fine ? do you have a solution?
@@christophercolumbus8944 Groove 0 is programmed from left edge of the groove. It should work. I've done it when I had to use a grooving tool same width as the slot like you mentioned.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 no i know
on the fusio640 it is a little different there are actually MORE options
can you explain this issue with the degree ? and the negative number? and which item gets the "?" if the degree is inputted? cause if they all have numbers then putting a degree wont work right?
@@christophercolumbus8944 The ? Is to calculate the unknown value. You need 3 values to calculate the 4th value for a grooving operation. Negative number on the angle is when the machine needs to calculate the angle downward into more material. The ? Is not needed if you know all 4 X and Z points of the groove.
Please describe the the taper angle formula and other things briefly
There is no formula. You just enter the angle like I show you in relation to a horizontal plane.
I notice that you don't use G96. Why is that? I'm a beginner and I do not understand! Thanks!
The machine does use G96 Constant Surface Speed but I was already maxed out at 2,000 RPM so it just stays at max RPM when cutting this part.
hi sir
sir plz make a vedio..how to change german language into English..which parameter change?
Do you have anything on converting metric threads to English?
Just need to enter the pitch and the OD in inches instead of metric.
Sir how program copy nc to usb in mazak quick turn smooth sg 150
You need to create a file folder in your USB stick on a computer for the machine to read or write to USB. It will not work writing a file to the parent USB drive.
Do you have anything on programming a sub spin8
No I do not.
Cảm ơn 👍
Thanks.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I want to know what that RADIUS -70 is
@@nguyenvanquynh9034 It is the angle of the groove.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 so thanks
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I am making fanuc now switch to mazak to see more efficiency
WHAT THE F
why tool # 6 OFFSET 1 ? ? why ? ?
T60606 no?
It's a Mazak, not a Fanuc. Offset column 1.
I don't understand your drawing and calculation
great explanation
but all of that for a poor result
so many long chips
and too slow programming when is simplier to do in old FANUC with classic G0 and G1 on screen
^^ no arrogance
only facts
I didn't have the correct insert to cut aluminum hence the bird's nest of chips.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 ^^ understood