Intel's 4th Attempt At Beating Ryzen - "New" 6.2GHz Core i9-14900KS Launched
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00:00 - Welcome Back to Hardware Unboxed
01:53 - Core i9-14900KS Specifications
05:52 - Intel's Performance Claims Analyzed
08:58 - Final Thoughts
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Intel's 4th Attempt At Beating Ryzen - "New" 6.2GHz Core i9-14900KS Launched
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The S stands for snake oil
Curated by Hardware Jesus xD
💀
or "shitbox"
No, The S stands for "SUCKS"!
Definitely “Sizzlin’”
Those clocks and power draw will bring any liquid cooler below a 420 to its knees.
$120 more than the 14900K; _for only 100 MHz more._
Go home Intel, you're drunk.
People who can afford top end CPU's like i9 14900K couldn't give two shits about the cost.
@@2hotflavored666pretty sure most of them still do, as it's a $120 gap for what probably amounts to a couple fps increase.
@@2hotflavored666 I can easily afford 14900k and it still wouldn't buy it, clearly this is almost a scam product.
Only morons would pay more for basically no advantage. Doesn't matter if you can afford it@@2hotflavored666
@@2hotflavored666 You can always capitalize on existing brand. There are people who HAVE TO buy Intel, because Intel is part of their personality since forever.
Using my alarm tone was out of pocket. Felt like I woke up twice today
Same used that same alarm when I worked my favorite sound alarm Samsung Galaxy a52s 5g here lol 😂
Oh yeah, and I'm also really tired. I grabbed at my phone and couldn't work out what the Alarm was.
I hate that alarm so much
Ong. Gave me PTSD, especially bc I almost didn't wake up today.
The "S" stands for Sucker.
And here I thought the KS stands for "Keep Spending"
KS=Kooked in Snakeoil 😉😋
It stands for sleep. Hence the Intro
Alas there are still plenty of those arguing that in fact the 14900K is more power efficient because it uses 2w less than a 7950X in a single threaded workload or that the KS is a god tier CPU if you disable e-cores and HT. Some people are just lifelong Intel fanboys.
You joke, but for a while I actually thought KS stood for “Keep Standing”
Can't wait for Intel's next generation i9, the Intel Core i9 15900KYS
😂😭
1 mhz more. Yea !
Honestly outside of mediocre performance compared to the competition, there's no scenario where I want my PC sucking down 20%-30% more power for 5% more performance.
I wish my 5600X was as mediocre as you say (in term of performance), but yeah : too power hungry (as most top-end CPU), not enough improvement (vs 13900K) ... a good year if you want to stick with Intel, because, you won't spend a penny until, at least, the 15900K (Arrow lake ?)
The last 1% extra performance cost up to 90% more power.
Cpu power draw is only one part of pc's power usage. Real world is 5 to 10% more pc total power draw, assuming you have a beastly gpu to match this beastly cpu.
okay, here's a scenario, you live in Frostpunk world on edge of the city and heating doesn't reach your place... now you can get slightly better chances of survival
@@grospoulpe951 The 5600X is still an okay CPU though. It won't win any prizes, but it'll get the job done.
100 mhz increase???!!!!!!! reminds me of the good old pentium days
Except those weren't boost speeds. LOL
10 years of 4 cores...
@@silenthill4 Get ready for 10 years of 8 P-cores
Well, additional 100 MHz on a Pentium could mean 2x bump in overall clock speed, not the ~3% difference here lol
@@MMGuy The early P5 days, yes. I think he was thinking of the P6 days where they eventually hit ~1.6 on the Extreme Edition and it was clocked a whopping 200 MHz above the fastest non-Extreme chip.
UA-cam bugged out and showed the video timeline as just over a minute and that made it even funnier.
tbh he should just have stopped after the intro and stared at the camera for 10 minutes without saying anything, would have been about the same amount of info, and what this disgrace of a chip deserves
@@tommihommi1 is this the world's most crispy chip? let's find out
@@tommihommi1I mean, it's not really a disgrace. The chip is good, just unnecessary.
no it's not use 30-50% more power for 5% @@Entenuk1
@@Entenuk1 no, the chip is not good, it's pushed way too far for sensible use, on a node that is just not competitive.
It's a total embarrassment next to the 7800x3d
The 14 stands for 13 and the KS stands for K.
And the $750 stands for...
Not exactly. Its correct that the 14 stands for 13, but the K stands for K and the S for Snake Oil Salesman
@@Dexion845 stands for middle finger
yo is that nemu ?
never expected to see her face on profile pic
especially on tech channel lol
@@Dexion845your wallet becoming "thin and light"
The fact that, for a Hardware Unboxed video, this being only 10 minutes already speaks for itself.
Lol, yes! I was like, wait a minute... 😂
That caught my attention as well.
The Southern Hemisphere is going into Autumn. This CPU will provide many with adequate heat for the cold, winter days.
Unfortunately, many places are too hot to ever use heating
A space heater is what, $20?
@@umblapag But can it run Crysis?
@@mikehawk6918Possibly, I could see someone trying to sell a "smart heater" 😅
UA-cam censored my own reply so I wouldn't offend myself. Thank you UA-cam! What would I do without you? Think for myself?
"Steve would fly back to murder me and hide my body in the outback"
RIP Monitors Unboxed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He would hide his body in a Subaru Outback hidden in the Australian Outback! 😂
I dunno if he'd actually do that, but he would kick you in the down under for sure.
timestamp?
They should have called it the 14900KBS ...
14900kW
14900KMS?
14900watts
14000KYS?
Lmfao funny because it probably requires AT LEAST a 1kW PSU@@AntonChekhoff
can’t wait for the userbenchmark review on this one
"Well, this revolutionary product is clearly meant for overclocking, so if you put it on liquid nitrogen and pump 500 Watts into it, pair it with the most expensive DDR5-8000 memory, it clearly beats the cheap 7800X3D from that inferior budget brand by at least 1% on avg in our not all that selective benchmarks. Sure games crash with such an unstable overclock, but you sure as well won't be freezing while you waiting for that exciting memory retraining phase to complete!" or something.
Well in Userbenchmark the i3 is more powerfull than the i9 i guess if is the same as the past yeah i3 will still overpower this cpu.
Oh man can't wait to read their crap 😂
@@Hugh_I Stop! Stop! It's already dead!
"Neanthertal AMD sponsored reviewers are going to try to tell you that 100Mhz over a 14900k is not worth the price increase but you'd need to have a major lack of critical thought to take them seriously"
what a waste of sand. children in the third world could have eaten that silicon.
and before you say "that doesn't make any sense", neither does this CPU.
that doesn't make any sense
I really miss that meme back in 2015 when I was watching TechRax.
It does make sense. It is the top binned 14900K. You know what you are getting for your money and don't have to do silicon lottery. It is perfectly sensible for intel to release such CPU for those that will buy it. It might be not me and not you but this segment certainly exists. There are some people who are rich as fuck and can burn money like there is no tomorrow. Is it sensible by your perspective, not. Is it by their, yes definitely, they want the best of the best, they don't care about money.
Doc "1.21 Gigawatts, how can I generate that kind of power!?, It can't be done can it." Marty " We do now, use Intel."
I love the intro....
I love you
i love you. If you are the person in the profile picture though.
Yes I totally love a person just based on a profile picture. Typical creep youtube comments.
@@Simon_Denmarkikr lol
@@Simon_Denmarkladies and gentlemen. We got em.
I can see the emperor in intel headquarters screaming
MOAR POWAAA 😂
Chief advisor: Jeremy Clarkson
hahahahahahah
@@oryxified1430 Chief designer: Tim Taylor
@@steveweidig5373 Thermal management engineered by John Woo
This has got to be one of the best CPU reviews I've ever seen! 10/10 No Notes.
How things changed compared to the bump from the 4770k to the 4790k. Back then you gained +500mhz for nearly the same price.
You wanted it to boost 7ghz and up?
@@SirLancelotS Same $ for +12% frequency VS +20% $ for +3% frequency.
6.5ghz or 7.0ghz, [+7%] it still doesn't save it from the fact we're paying more for less.
I've never seen Tim so excited to review a CPU. :D
Wow. I can't believe you are so excited about this chip!
I see Steve’s sarcasm is rubbing off onto Tim 😂
that intro was hilarious. the whole video really. definitely captured the feel of this launch
That's my same Alarm. 😂
Lol
mine too, and hearing it makes me very angry, lol
@@feelingtardy Username checks out. Also, it's my alarm too.
Same. Tim has good taste. 😂
Lol I used to have that but it does not wake me up half the time so I switched it to earrape
as a recent convert to team red and a current 7800X3D owner, your charts always bring a smile to my face 😌🤙
Oh god Tim's got the same alarm as me.
This means I will now think of Hardware Unboxed everytime I wake up.
Truly one of the best reviews of a DOA CPU from Intel !
Triggered my Vietnam flashbacks with that ringtone
I love the intro, it conveys feeling of " Wake me up, when any Intel CPU beats 3D V cache"
Or there is a cpu that is interesting and not just a minor money grubbing tweak. Stagnation in the cpu tech space is depressing. Intel might need to goto diamon substraights soon.
@@skilletpan5674stagnation is only on the Intel side of course 😂🤣
I am a proud all-amd PC owner. Not a fanboy.. just a smart boy. ❤
@christophermullins7163 over the years i've owned x86 cpus/chipsets from most companies i think. AMD,Intel,cyrix and i think another company. Lately AMD has the best all-round CPUs from price to performance and now features (AVX512). The BIOS teething issues have been a real pain with AM5 but that looks mostly fixed now.
All in all i'm happy with my 5.2ghz all core r9-7950x which is cooled only by a 240mm rad. I also am in a hot climate of around 35c most days and no aircon where the pc is. 5.2ghz sustained on every core is fantastic. I just think the AM5 boards currently suck with no 2x16 (fully electrically populated) PCI-E slots. That means that i can't get a legacy raid card at full 16x on my board. It seems like a big step back in fundamental support and design. It's the only major issue the expensive AM5 platform really suffers from. Board from 5 or 10 years ago have no issues with that.
@@christophermullins7163 fanboys NEVER describe themselves as fanboys...
LOL if only that were so.@@authoritariangentleman7570
Only thing I have to say is Watt the hell.
The power consumption on this thing must be hilarious
techpowerup got one to draw 500W with an overclock and all the power limits turned off
so 3x the power draw of its amd counterpart, neat.
This thing is putting out just a little under 1400 BTUh of heat at full load into your room. By contrast, a 7950X does ~1000 BTUh, and 7800X3D does 317 BTUh(93 watts) at full load. I'm mining Qubic on my 7800X3D right now at 100% load with PBO/EXPO tuning and it's drawing 93.427 watts. I can't imagine having 1400 BTU per hour of heat dumped into my room by this 14900KS. What can you even cool it with besides a 480mm AIO or custom loop?!
One reviewer got 115°C out of one on air cooling. The thermal management is so good nowadays that it'll clock down when it hits its temperature limit and limp along with reduced performance instead of just crashing.
That alarm going off at the beginning gave me a minor panick attack! WHAT MEETING AM I MISS--- oh, its the video... lol
I like how they compare the 7950x3d to the 14ks in productivity knowing full well the 7950X would do better than the x3d part. Intel cooking the books as always
Even then, the 7950X3D only loses a bit of performance for a significant reduction in power use.
This is considering the overall efficiency of the 7950X relative to the various (unlocked) Raptor Lake i9s.
It is called 1st party testing, everyone cherry pick what to test or show.
Intels cooking everything with the heat of these processors.
I think overclockers would appreciate a binned memory controller far more than a miniscule frequency increase.
This intro is the golden sample of Tech UA-camrs! Hardware Unboxed has a new video? Only 10 minutes long? You know what that means... 😁👌
ok, I need more "do I really have to do this?" videos from Tim. This was great.
Loved the non standard intro so much haha!
PURE GOLD, just as Gamers Nexus dropped interview with intel employee about Presentmon, and statement that 1% lows don't show full picture they go with 1% lows charts
realest intro i've ever seen
sums up the latest intel cpus and overall gpu releases in the last few years very, very well.
The S stands for SPENDMORELOL
Loved the energy in this video 😂
Very exciting release indeed lol
The whole "why should i even try when intel doesn't either" vibe this review gives is pretty funny and fitting.
All that comes to my head when i see these types of products from companies be it CPUs or GPUs is that guy Az from Heelvsbabyface screaming "YOU'RE BOOOOORING!"
Intel showing all their respect for us ❤
KS is for "Keep Spending"
I won't be surprised if even this thing can't beat 7800X3D. Intel is pumping their i9s full of steriods at this point lol
Meanwhile, the 7800x3D barely goes above 20watts under gaming. LOL
@@ThomasArmentoWhat games are you playing because that just isn't true. I'm idling right now at around 30 W with 2 tabs open in firefox. HWInfo may cause a bit more power usage.
@@Simon_Denmark RDR2 at 1440p with 7800XT. My non gaming idle watts as I type this is between 0.8 and 1.7 with 10% usage. Idle temps at 37C. Max temps playing RDR2 at 50C.
@@Simon_Denmarkno chance lmao..yeah the idle power draw sucks on amd cpus, 20-30 W idle is normal, intel is a lot better in that regard
@@autumn6994 keep telling yourself the lies. LMAO !
Intel fan boys with the massive amount of copium.
Dude that starting sound tripped me out as that's the sound that wakes me up every day lol
Ugh, I have the same alarm that goes off at least 5 times before I get up.
Same!
congratz on 1M subs, well deserved!
Only 1M subs i though they'd have much more, they're the 2nd best techtubers, i really don't understand how Linus can still have 15M subs, when for me is not even on top 5 techtubers anymore and never was even top 3.
@@guillermoae7038 linus is the first for it's production quality and investment. It's kinda fun for the average normie. Hw unboxed is more for the nerds like us
Linus is an entertainment program with a technology slant@@guillermoae7038, HU is a serious testing/benchmarking concern that conveys their results through video format, they're two entirely different ends of the business. You go watch LTT if you want to relax and watch something fun and goofy. You come here if you're about to build a computer in the near future, or like me, you build as a business and need to keep up with current hardware to make sure I give my clients the best value and most appropriate parts for their money.
It was supposed to be SP for Special Price, but they ran into a character limit in the name column for their spreadsheet.
awesome video tim! i wil however have to let steve know you called him an old man
A 7800X3D Is currently $369 on Amazon with an additional $13 coupon offer. Very similar if not better performance, nearly half the price, and way less power consumption. Intel has nothing to offer anyone at this point.
Nobody is going out and buying a 14900ks for a new system. (Or at least I hope they are not doing this.) This is one last upgrade for the LGA 1700 socket a la 5800X3D for AM 4. And the 14900ks is 18% faster than the 5800 X3D.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 _"And the 14900ks is 18% faster than the 5800 X3D."_ That is not a great endorsement, considering the 5800X3D is 2 years old and 2 Intel generations behind. Not to mention it runs on DDR4 memory, which granted the massive L3 cache mitigates to a degree.
If anyone on a LGA 1700 is looking to upgrade the 14700K is probably a *much* better choice as it has has the same 8P cores but 12E cores, but is also around $130 cheaper than a 13900k/14900k to me it is the sweet spot for a near flagship Intel CPU.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579lol, still a bs CPU. 5800X3d only 18% slower with DDR4 memory, on a now 7 years old socket with less than half the TDP.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 WTF would I spend $750 for this "upgrade"?????? At Microcenter, for $470 TOTAL I can get a 7800X3D, a B650 mobo AND 32GB DDR5-6000 RAM.
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 LGA 1700 is Intel's current socket. AM4 is AMD's legacy socket. AM5 will see it's second CPU generation this year (as in, Lisa Su has hard-confirmed that AMD is releasing according to the public roadmap). AKA, this Intel's current "best" offering while the 5800X3D keeps sticking around for that sweet-sweet double-dip temptation. You can be absolutely sure that shit-boxes like Alienware will soon have the 14900ks as the top tier offering.
The beginning wasn't acting, that was real
Love the Intro it's exactly what we all feel at this point about these releases.
After the intro and ad space. You're actually done, cheers guys!
Best intro *EVER* done in this channel!!! 😂
Best review of the Core i9-14900KS i have seen.
Just a glimpse of my sample "403W under Full Load" l8 :)
I wont be surpised if this thing still too hot to handle by those NICE 420mm aio
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558yes they are but even sustained loads above 300watts on a 13900k is way to much for any AIO only way to cool this is big external radiator or multiple in case radiators and even then sometimes you’ll be limited by the CPU block or IHS which means delid is your next option
Great video, on point
Can't wait for your review of the 14900BS!
That intro is a mood.
I had a samsung phones before and I used the default ring for alarm in the morning and now hearing that again started to make me angry, the same way it used to lol
Great video Tim : )
One aspect which I think would be interesting to include in the review is a section comparing the 14900KS against 14900K/7800X3d in an actuall case instead of a test bench.
Would any restriction of cooling/airflow throttle the performance down to make it no different?
This is like the meme "This is 14900ks !!!", "Intel .... This is the 4th time you've shown us the 13900k"
Literally
the HUB intro is pretty sleepy already 😜
This was amazing. Thanks!
Love the enthusiasm!
Oh, dear Intel
Gamers Nexus style opening! S tier opening lol
Can't wait for Gamer Nexus ripping intel apart after watching the comedic 14700K review
@@Kiwing827 i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't bother doing it. but at least we have the cpu set already for the disappointment build.. ;)
@@Kiwing827 Speaking of which, Google just recommended that. Time to go rewatch that!
What a time to be alive. Never thought AMD could beat Intel.
Such a good intro!!!
best intro :p
253 WATTS
Watt is a unit of measurement for power. It quantifies the rate at which energy is used or produced.
Specifically, one watt is defined as one joule per second (1 W = 1 J/s).
Imagine a light bulb( Core i9-14900KS) consuming 60 watts (253 watts) of power. This means it uses 60 joules (253 joules) of energy every second while it’s turned on.
Loved the intro!
Hilarious beginning..😅
Anyway nice haircut Tim 👍😁
Not only is the comparable AMD CPU cheaper, cooler and very competitive, but it's on a newer socket platform, so future CPU upgrades are assured. The 14900KS?
That apo move was scummy af
tbf, nvidia and amd does the exact same thing with their frame gen tech. its just intels version of it, tbh.
@@Dajova Not comparable at all.
@@Navi_xooIt is, since they include frame gen benchmarks in their slides vs older versions which does not have it enabled and call it "increased performance". Just because its not the same tech doesnt mean its not the same tactic and argument.
For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.
The intro was so good I had to watch it twice
We’ve come so far. I still remember bragging about
My Pentium 4 with 1.2 ghz. “Mate I have no loading times on counter strike!!”
Yeh that's what I was thinking. We can criticize this release for sure, but I never thought we'd see 6GHZ. I grew up in the 90's with a 486dx33mhz
@@kenwilliams3279 yeah my first pc was a compaq with floppy disk and that was I want to believe was 300 hz. I remember the years before my dad got the new 1.2 ghz. The compaq was struggling and the HDD was making weird noises.
😂
@@wirrexx we had a 212mb hdd. It was the envy of everyone. Now I've got about 84tb ssds in my workstation 😅
@wirrexx I just built Dad a new PC and he says "hey what it doesn't have a cd rom !?!" I had to explain they've been obsolete for a while
So a new 13900 launched, iNtEreStING.
Your tone illustrates perfectly how I feel about parity in the cpu market.
Came for the review, but boy was that intro awesome.
No better way to express the lack of amazement.
K for temp and S for shit. So HotShit. You pick the meaning.
I know this is off-topic, but what camera and lens combo do you use? Your setup has the highest quality/detailed video i have seen on youtube, period. Skin tones, lighting, everything is just god tier
LOL best video start on YT in ages! +1 Tim!!!
So on the bright side. It may double as space heater??
God damn it! I looked at my phone when that video alarm went off
PLEASE STEVE AND TIM TAKE A VACATION!! It actually would be a cool vid to see you guys having fun, we would completely understand.... unless you are looking forward to covering 15th gen, then 16th gen, then 17th gen, then all the ryzen cpus... dont forget the rtx 5000 series, then 6000 series.. and the supers, then super ti's... seriously keep your sanity fellas
These videos are always so good....
The sketch at the start made me half expect a cameo appearance of GN Steve calling you to wake up.
You think it's possible and a safe overclock for the 14900 kf of 6,2 ghz on the prefered cores?
How much more power did they squeeze through their design without lighting the substrate on fire?
There is one exciting thing about 14900KS. Power consumption in games is 30% more than 14900K. So from being triple power compared to 7800x3d, now it's quadruple for the same FPS.
As a new 7800x3D user the best feature isn't the framerates or 3D vcache: it's how incredibly efficient it is. Tried a cinebench run just for kicks, it peaked at 60 or 70 watts. Gaming workloads? 30-40 watts. And it's beating a 14th gen Intel pulling 200-300 watts. You could cool the thing with a wraith prism stock cooler if you wanted to. This 14900KS however? I don't even know if the new Arctic Liquid Freezer AIO can keep it cool. Intel need to have a chat with the AMD engineers, because a gaming CPU should not be drawing more power than a RTX 4080, it's just abysmal for efficiency.
Once again no bullshit reviews, thats why i love your reviews and advice. Kudos! A man who could see you if i could dig deep enough . UK
Ya freaked me out with the alarm sound. Got the same one haha
That intro was the best I’ve seen from this channel. 😊
Omg this video was so hilarious, just the amount of hidden stabs at Intel throughout had be bursting.
“If you were expecting this 3% increase to cost 3% more….” I died here.
also better perfomance for just 60w vs same or worse with 200w? Kinda matter if you need to pay electricity bills yourself with current energy prices