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Fr. I made the mistake of trying to play the game again after 17 years. I paid for 60 days of game time, logged in, leveled to 8 and got to Orgrimmar. There I found out I couldn't trade, use the auction house, or the mailbox. I couldn't even mail anything to a bank alt. After a back and forth with GMs for a week, and people raging on the forums about my same issue, Blizz finally lifted the restrictions and started deleting all the threads. It seems like, instead of removing the restrictions for only veteran accounts in good standing who have made previous purchases, they decided to remove the restrictions for everybody. So ofc the bots are gonna flood in. After seeing how they handled this, I already quit again.
FINALLY ONE other bigger content creator talking about Madskillzzhc... We need to blow this up waaaaaaaaaaaay more. I dont even play wow anymore and its still infuriating. Where tf are the big content creators when the community needs them.........
@@thorbenmoe4195 that's way too much. but quick perma banning would make not profitable to make botting. unless someone has tons game keys to create accounts
Bring back real active GM’s. literally with a work from home option it would be more feasible than ever before. There are so few servers and could realistically handle it by small teams.
i am a completely brand new player and even i have noticed bots. i was leveling in stranglethorn vale yesterday on spineshatter EU and i found about 4-5 alliance bots just repeating the same route over and over and repeating the same actions. when i fought them they either just ignored me and kept trying to move away or just stood still and did a repeat of the same abilities. they all had very random names as if they had just slammed their head on their keyboard when naming themselves.
Look, if we're gonna have GMs to get rid of the bots, we're gonna need to pay a subscription to help pay for the GMs.... Oh yeah... We do have a subscription fee, and Blizzard still doesn't do anything.
Bots are in retail too. It is hard to sell anything on my server due to AH botting. Blizz don't care because bots help to inflate the token price. Tokens should be 100k max not 300k.
Yep, Classic Anniversary has loads of bots. I just went to desolace on my mage alt to do some questing there, I didnt had the flightpath there so I had to walk to Desolace from Ashenvale. Needless to say I saw an army of bots south of Astranaar. Maybe 40 bots in the whole region on a single layer ranging from 22-25. They had auto invite accept in a group, so I made a group and put a master loot option with a set run quality loot to 0 ( gray items ), so they would try to loot but can't and they would get stuck. Also having them grouped in a raid ruined their xp gains. But it was an infime proportion of all the bots that are out there. It's so easy to spot bots and I don't know, Blizzard just don't care, it's that much extra subs...
@@yewknight Video proof and post it on all social media tagging blizzard. They can only ignore this and cash in the sub money + the black market gold subs for as long as it's not being spoken about out loud and on all media. Exposing this and the death threats etc. would bring more media attention to this and maybe... maybe do something to help nudge Blizzard in the right direction. After all it's Microsoft involved now too, they can't ignore this forever. Let's be real though, for Blizzard it's always been about the money, all new releases are essentially monetized to produce maximum amount of profit for least amount of investment/effort.
So let me get this straight. There are people in this game that send death threats to other players. We pay for this, we seek an entertainment and what we get in return are death threats? Some people just do not care about themselves and only care about having many sheets of paper with famous dead people printed on them.
Your Western nations' neighbors are not selling gold to fund a lavish lifestyle. Listen to what Sean Strickland said about the out of country fighters making ten and ten. The 3rd world finds generational wealth off selling gold to wealthy Western nations.
Wtf are you even talking about lol. You do know there is an ignore future in the game right. Also do you know how the internet works ? And buddy i have been playing for 20 years never once have i got a death threat. You clearly do something really bad to get that. 🤣🤦
@adammalinowski8651 i did war h the video and it is filled whit total bullshit. Oh no you are online and someone says a dumb thing to you. Ignore them then or even better leave the internet. Litterly nothing can stop other people from saying tings to you online. Played for 20 years never happened to me and nobody i know have gotten Death Threats in wow. Again you guys are like the Bigfoot community. Yea a friend has a friend that knows someone that saw Bigfoot so Bigfoot must be real. You yea i saw a guy whit a friend that had a friend and he knows a guy that got death threats online for no reason. 🤣
sorry man but you come from a place of privilege beyond belief if thats how you see it; most people dont have money to pay bills or eat. its a struggle in the real world
To be fair, during launch week i was banned TWICE for hacking/exploting/botting and both times the account ban was overturned with blizzard basically saying "sorry we fucked up" but the time and effort it took to get the bans overturned turned me off the game so much i stopped playing. Fighting bots is great but stop messing with real players in the process.
You can get mass reported for so many things that it's an automatic suspension, if you get a bunch of friends to report someone they get a suspension no questions asked, saying just "you cheated and add a lol at the end just makes you a bitch, kinda sad you think cheating is funny guess you don't really care about the game, it's an automated system not actual people
@@williamanderson6006so your friend ask you to lend him some gold for lets say a mount. Should you get banned for that ? Because if we go the way you say everyone will starta getting banned for trading any amount of gold really and also buying stuff from others. As it will be algorithms in charge over the ban everyone will start getting banned for nothing.
Rampant botting, RMT cheating, mega-server layering, & a highly-toxic player community is primarily why I finally left Blizzard at some point for the Turtle WoW private server. Plus, Turtle WoW does "Classic WoW" far better than Blizzard ever did & wasn't afraid to go all-in on a properly-tweaked & expanded "Vanilla+" effort.
On private server I played on, a friend tried out bot fishing and got banned within minutes. Another server I played on, there was a giga chad GM who wiped out any sign of bots, server was so good for a while... but then the main dev got angry and kicked GM off the team and server went to hell..
Blizzard is the WORST most disgusting game company that there is. I love classic, but it makes me absolutely sick to pay them any money. We need Nost back
🐢 Wow is the best version of Wow I have ever played ever, it feels like I'm playing vanilla for the first time ever again, the mystery is back, no bots, no gdkp, no gold selling, the client is how it's supposed to be and not run on the legion client with animations that are incorrect and not true to the vanilla client, everyone talks to each other, the community is great, easier to level, more content that's actually good with Warcraft lore correct and made with love, super populated sometimes to populated, easy to gear with you being able to pug Kara 10 and MC in greens @@Anders-vl6kk
Not sure why people expected anything different. They never did anything about it since og classic launch. That's why I sold my acc of 15 years after wrath classic and never looked back. It's corrupted to it's very core
The bots in Everlook constantly buying the limited recipes from Qia is crazy took me 4 hours last week to get the Runecloth gloves for my tailor cannot imagine how much worse it is now passed by and seen 4 lvl ones there. Logged on to Skull rock the other day and seen over a dozen gnome locks running around as a bot train so im sure it is way worse on the fresh anniversary realms.
Im kinda done with retail atm and thus wanted to play fresh for a bit. But the amount of bots is a massive turn down for me. Guess I'll be playing GW2 for a bit
Its a spiral really. Poor countries see a lucrative job opportunity. They sell some gold. The prices inflate. Then you and your American job can either farm all weekend long or buy the same stuff from 1-2 hours at the job. My point being: Its harder to blame the buyers than the farmers/bots themselves.
Blizzard insiders clearly are incentivized to keep botting around. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of the WOW classic team and/or classic team veterans are botting themselves.
A stark reminder that you do not mess with the WoW bot mafia. They not only control the game, but Blizzard as well! The best thing to do is stay quiet, keep your head down, and leave the bots alone, or else the mafia will get you!
I farmed elemental water for an hour to make some final gold for my 40 mount like I did in 2019 classic. In 2019, they each sold for 2.5-5g. Because of bots and mega servers they now sell for 6 silver.
At this rate, half the problem is the buyers people dont feel bad about gold buying anymore and other players who dont buy gold just accept it now instead of kicking these players from raids, guilds, its pretty obvious alot of the time if someone buys gold
the rpoblem is in game design with botters 100% . why would i grind for ingame coin when i can pay 5 bucks to actually playing the game when i have 2-3 hours a day
Watching this made me get a bot program, going to set up 3 accounts, never knew it was this easy to earn money on it, wondering though if i should release them at different times? incase a ban wave show up? could lose all 3 or put one and ne out every 2nd week and lose some bot time but also not lose all bots instantly if a wave come? curious if anyone know the best way to earn cash on this? To those who get pissed, sorry but if blizz dont give a shiz why should i? Hell ill make a deal with you guys, if blizzard ever take botting serious ill remove my bots (if this shit take off and work as well as they say it will) if its as lucerative as these people say this is way better than the stocks i been dabbling in.
I can imagine theres bots on the PVP server too, but since they get ganked by the opposite faction they are not making as much value as they do on PVE/HC servers. I play alliance on Spineshatter EU and ive haven’t encountered bots as for now, almost level 30.
I have reported 100+ and not received a single mail confirming action. My guildies have been more fortunate but honestly it feels like Blizzard do not give a damn.
Blizzard won't stop botting because it brings MONEY for THEM. THE ONLY WAY to stop botting is if we all unite together and stop playing until they fix that shit. Otherwise, there is no way out. And this works for everyting in society.
Unfortunately the truth is that "anyone who is botting pays blizzard sub fee" so due to this blizzard doesnt care because they are making money from the bots. The only time blizzard will care is if player base drops and due to that botting drops (no gold to sell to anyone) then blizzard will try to fix it...but it'll be too late...I am almost at my limit for how much abuse I can take from people cheating in this game
I just unsubbed both my accts due to bots. No point in a fresh server if there are bots to ruin it. I knew this was gonna happen but I had high hopes.... boy was I wrong. Never again.
Blizzard should have had a handle on this issue years ago, but it seems they have given up, very sad to hear about Madskillzzhc quitting the fight over threats
same thing different day. blizzard gets money from bots. bots make money botting the game. costs money to constantly battle them. even normal players will bot in off times.
crazy how turtle wow ( a private server ) , has a better implementation of classic +, has more control over bots and absolute have 0 RMT tolerance. Billion dollar company
You can not do a single quest under 1-2 hours due to all the bots killing everything in sight. I receive ingame messages from Blizzard every other day - they took action blabla - I don't believe that. Millions of bots still swarming everywhere - and on top its the holidays and millions of REAL players everywhere. Just took my 3 hours to complete a ususally 20 minutes quest!!!
The problem is bots have to pay for a subscription as well. How many toons can you have on one realm with one subscription? I have never had more than 2-6 so I don't know if is there a max. My point is if bots have to pay a subscription why would Blizzard band them. that means Blizzard is losing money. Is Blizzard willing to allow the game to suck for real players to make money off the Bot accounts, Well it seems so.
Blizzard is getting a cut from these organized bot runners. There's NO way they aren't getting a piece of the action considering how bad the bot situation and gold selling is.
They did the math, they're not stupid. The sub money from all the bot accounts feeds itself back from selling the gold in the first place. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sort of agreement with some of the bigger gold selling sites to get a cut from their profits. These things usually operate on such a large scale without hiccups purely because everyone involved make a profit. It's the golden rule of corruption, i.e as long as every side benefits no one will want to do anything to stop it regardless of moral repercussions.
Why should blizzard do something about botting if 1)they benefit from it 2)chumps will keeppaying their sub forever no matter what ? If I was blizzard I would do nothing about botting, there's no reason to.
Pretty sure I saw some bots running around elwyn forest mining copper in the first week after the new launch They ran in a straight line from one ore to the next and at one point there were 3 running side by side and all trying to mine the same ore. I assume it was bots cause otherwise it was weird
The best thing back in classic on my server was, that it was locked until Ahn quiraj and that it was german speaking. This kept the flood away, slowed it down and exposed someone who could only speak english. I was literally one out of 3 people or so who could do big Mara boosts and i was just a normal player, good times.
My opinion but blizzard is hesitant because these botters are paying money for subs which helps blizz when they have to show their sub counts per quarter and all that financial stuff.
Well I hope they’re happy my friends got me to play and I’ve gifted 300.00 to wow just in mistakes due to the store confusing me. Now 172 of that is for the year subscription so it wasn’t total confusion but I purchased retail thinking it was classic . Given my friends could’ve told me classic came with the subscription 😫
why are the fresh servers progressing so fast, I am unemployed and no lifing the game, only level 56 on my main, a druid, I am the highest level toon in my guild, and just about all the members of the guild quit when it was revealed that phase two is already hanging over our heads and we wont be ready to raid for a month or more prolly, I was willing to play these servers for a few years even but I keep getting gut punched and face stomped by this release,
Does not matter really people will still be doing mc and onyxia. And why phase 2 comes out faster is because it is whit phase 2 we get honor and more PvP stuff. So saying you are getting gut punched and face stomped just because you dont raid on day one tells me you dont know how the game works. And on this the vanilla will be playing for 1,2-1,5 years then tbc will release this was stated from the beginning.
@@wingsofunlimitedpepsi6817 lol, denial of reality, you are being farmed by fomo-merchants and you are quite well programmed, don't let me stop you from consuming product brother, *salutes*
6 figures… what is blizzard going to do? Ban them? They just make a 100 more new accounts. Look at how much crying over the trade cool down on new accounts got. At this point it’s the player base fucking it up, stop buying gold period.
bots gonna go where ever the players are. its kind of wild not seeing a lot of bots in era right now. even the AH is a barren wasteland at times. like you cant even find some items on the AH most bots would be farming ie lotus or arcane crystals. everything is in such short supply, and i bet the gold buying going crazy in fresh right now.
You could inspect people at 60ish a week ago and see everything that u need to know about the state of gold buying. Many 60s decked out with purple/blue BoE that cost hunderds if not thousands of gold.
If you pay even a little attention and move to locations that ain't used too much, you will see bots running around 😅 might be a bit hard to spot them at the beginning, but more you see em the more you see the same patterns, gear etc pop up
Blizzard wants the bots. People need to accept it and find another game to play. Let them have the "players" they so dearly want. Maybe once they lose enough money they'll figure it out (but probably not).
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This is killing my hype. It feels really bad to play the game when I see so many bots along side me I feel like a chump wasting my time in a fake game
Yeah, especially when they farm in the same spots.
You are a chump that's wasting his time. Go hit the gym or something big boy
Fr. I made the mistake of trying to play the game again after 17 years. I paid for 60 days of game time, logged in, leveled to 8 and got to Orgrimmar. There I found out I couldn't trade, use the auction house, or the mailbox. I couldn't even mail anything to a bank alt. After a back and forth with GMs for a week, and people raging on the forums about my same issue, Blizz finally lifted the restrictions and started deleting all the threads.
It seems like, instead of removing the restrictions for only veteran accounts in good standing who have made previous purchases, they decided to remove the restrictions for everybody. So ofc the bots are gonna flood in. After seeing how they handled this, I already quit again.
Crazy, I’ve been too busy playing the game to worry about bots.
@@heroabove ??? Are you blind or in denial
FINALLY ONE other bigger content creator talking about Madskillzzhc... We need to blow this up waaaaaaaaaaaay more. I dont even play wow anymore and its still infuriating. Where tf are the big content creators when the community needs them.........
They're buying gold more then likely.
@@AlmostMadeItGaming all the "eports" guilds are buying gold
asmon watched his goodbye video on stream the other day. people are aware
Imagine catching feelings and being "infuriating" over a streamer and his decisions about the game 😂
@@Burgerklauer yea they finally uploaded it to youtube about an hour ago, thanks
Gold sellers and gold buyers need to be permabanned. No 3 day bans, no 1 month bans, just permabanned.
They have to pay 15$ a month for each bot so blizzard doesn't care if there game is 50% bots
Not just a permanent ban They need also a permanent MAC Adress Bann
Rly? And lose lots of money? You are very naive.
@@thorbenmoe4195 virtualisation makes that a pointless endeavour
@@thorbenmoe4195 that's way too much. but quick perma banning would make not profitable to make botting. unless someone has tons game keys to create accounts
Bring back real active GM’s. literally with a work from home option it would be more feasible than ever before. There are so few servers and could realistically handle it by small teams.
Blizzard won’t pay for it
Blizzard aren't interested in removing the bot problem. As in it's a problem for us and cash flow for them.
😂😂 oh you're serious....
Ai gms coming soon TM
But think about the lost in profits...be kind to the shareholders pls.....
After 20 years, I think it's safe to say that Blizzard will not stop the bots or players buying gold. You ether get over it or stop playing.
Honestly, playing on naughty servers feels like a better option than paying blizzard any money for a subpar product.
@@eurosonly So sad but true
i am a completely brand new player and even i have noticed bots. i was leveling in stranglethorn vale yesterday on spineshatter EU and i found about 4-5 alliance bots just repeating the same route over and over and repeating the same actions. when i fought them they either just ignored me and kept trying to move away or just stood still and did a repeat of the same abilities. they all had very random names as if they had just slammed their head on their keyboard when naming themselves.
Same here last week in STV. It's riddled with bots, especially near the jungle stalkers. like 3 or 4 of them.
I have a lot of respect for you for covering this issue, thank you. Most streamers really shy away from this.
Look, if we're gonna have GMs to get rid of the bots, we're gonna need to pay a subscription to help pay for the GMs.... Oh yeah... We do have a subscription fee, and Blizzard still doesn't do anything.
Meanwhile on 🐢 wow there's no subscription fee, there are GMs, bots are almost non-existent. prices on the AH on my server are like 2005
Turtle wow is awesome it's free no bots and they ban gold buyers
Turtle wow is ass
Bots are in retail too. It is hard to sell anything on my server due to AH botting. Blizz don't care because bots help to inflate the token price. Tokens should be 100k max not 300k.
on retail it makes sense that they dont care since you have to spend more IRL money to buy a token now, its really sad
I have been feeling the urge to get back into wow. Thanks for this, I'll wait until blizzard does something about these botters. Subscribed
Yep, Classic Anniversary has loads of bots. I just went to desolace on my mage alt to do some questing there, I didnt had the flightpath there so I had to walk to Desolace from Ashenvale.
Needless to say I saw an army of bots south of Astranaar. Maybe 40 bots in the whole region on a single layer ranging from 22-25. They had auto invite accept in a group, so I made a group and put a master loot option with a set run quality loot to 0 ( gray items ), so they would try to loot but can't and they would get stuck. Also having them grouped in a raid ruined their xp gains. But it was an infime proportion of all the bots that are out there.
It's so easy to spot bots and I don't know, Blizzard just don't care, it's that much extra subs...
Be careful they might mass report you for ban
If you recorded that it would be really interesting to see.
@@yewknight Video proof and post it on all social media tagging blizzard. They can only ignore this and cash in the sub money + the black market gold subs for as long as it's not being spoken about out loud and on all media.
Exposing this and the death threats etc. would bring more media attention to this and maybe... maybe do something to help nudge Blizzard in the right direction. After all it's Microsoft involved now too, they can't ignore this forever.
Let's be real though, for Blizzard it's always been about the money, all new releases are essentially monetized to produce maximum amount of profit for least amount of investment/effort.
Is it possible to learn this power?
So let me get this straight. There are people in this game that send death threats to other players. We pay for this, we seek an entertainment and what we get in return are death threats? Some people just do not care about themselves and only care about having many sheets of paper with famous dead people printed on them.
Your Western nations' neighbors are not selling gold to fund a lavish lifestyle.
Listen to what Sean Strickland said about the out of country fighters making ten and ten.
The 3rd world finds generational wealth off selling gold to wealthy Western nations.
Wtf are you even talking about lol. You do know there is an ignore future in the game right. Also do you know how the internet works ? And buddy i have been playing for 20 years never once have i got a death threat. You clearly do something really bad to get that. 🤣🤦
@Thedrunkenswede1337 i didn't get them. I watched the video unlike you it seems and solheim said that it happened to some people.
@adammalinowski8651 i did war h the video and it is filled whit total bullshit. Oh no you are online and someone says a dumb thing to you. Ignore them then or even better leave the internet. Litterly nothing can stop other people from saying tings to you online. Played for 20 years never happened to me and nobody i know have gotten Death Threats in wow. Again you guys are like the Bigfoot community. Yea a friend has a friend that knows someone that saw Bigfoot so Bigfoot must be real. You yea i saw a guy whit a friend that had a friend and he knows a guy that got death threats online for no reason. 🤣
sorry man but you come from a place of privilege beyond belief if thats how you see it; most people dont have money to pay bills or eat. its a struggle in the real world
Agreed with dingy. Please cover the Madskillzzhc story more and keep yourself safe.
Blizzard could easily solve this problem. They choose not to.
Cuz blizz are the bots...
Classic 2019: first time?
Classic sod: fool me twice. Electric boogaloo.
Classic 2024: you've learned nothing!
Bots are out of control in Classic Fresh.
SoD: Hold my beer!
To be fair, during launch week i was banned TWICE for hacking/exploting/botting and both times the account ban was overturned with blizzard basically saying "sorry we fucked up" but the time and effort it took to get the bans overturned turned me off the game so much i stopped playing.
Fighting bots is great but stop messing with real players in the process.
chill the fk out. u got unbanned. get tf back to the game. vanilla forever.
Sounds fishy
you cheated lmao
You can get mass reported for so many things that it's an automatic suspension, if you get a bunch of friends to report someone they get a suspension no questions asked, saying just "you cheated and add a lol at the end just makes you a bitch, kinda sad you think cheating is funny guess you don't really care about the game, it's an automated system not actual people
The wild thing is that private servers stop botting lol while blizzard either doesn't care or allows it to happen
Private servers don't charge a subscription for each player, bot or not.
@SnakeHelah they do have an option for that..
If people did not buy gold there would be no bots around since they could not make real money of ingame currency
That's like expecting people to stop watching porn. So, it's not a real solution.
It seems pretty easy to stop it to me a person has 3 gold one day then 1000 the next just check their logs
@@God__Emperor_ It's possible but most wouldnt like on the way we would need to treat the average joe
@@williamanderson6006so your friend ask you to lend him some gold for lets say a mount. Should you get banned for that ? Because if we go the way you say everyone will starta getting banned for trading any amount of gold really and also buying stuff from others. As it will be algorithms in charge over the ban everyone will start getting banned for nothing.
Stop buying gold and they would have no reason to bot.
Rampant botting, RMT cheating, mega-server layering, & a highly-toxic player community is primarily why I finally left Blizzard at some point for the Turtle WoW private server. Plus, Turtle WoW does "Classic WoW" far better than Blizzard ever did & wasn't afraid to go all-in on a properly-tweaked & expanded "Vanilla+" effort.
On private server I played on, a friend tried out bot fishing and got banned within minutes. Another server I played on, there was a giga chad GM who wiped out any sign of bots, server was so good for a while... but then the main dev got angry and kicked GM off the team and server went to hell..
3:05 Can you kill them in eyes of the beast? Will they still be able to ban you if you are far away and just use your pet to kill them instead?
Blizzard is the WORST most disgusting game company that there is. I love classic, but it makes me absolutely sick to pay them any money. We need Nost back
turtlewow is your home
🐢 Wow is the best version of Wow I have ever played ever, it feels like I'm playing vanilla for the first time ever again, the mystery is back, no bots, no gdkp, no gold selling, the client is how it's supposed to be and not run on the legion client with animations that are incorrect and not true to the vanilla client, everyone talks to each other, the community is great, easier to level, more content that's actually good with Warcraft lore correct and made with love, super populated sometimes to populated, easy to gear with you being able to pug Kara 10 and MC in greens @@Anders-vl6kk
i keep getting ingame mail ads from gold sellers... i report each one but blizz does nothing as the sellers still show up on /who
Not sure why people expected anything different. They never did anything about it since og classic launch. That's why I sold my acc of 15 years after wrath classic and never looked back. It's corrupted to it's very core
The bots in Everlook constantly buying the limited recipes from Qia is crazy took me 4 hours last week to get the Runecloth gloves for my tailor cannot imagine how much worse it is now passed by and seen 4 lvl ones there. Logged on to Skull rock the other day and seen over a dozen gnome locks running around as a bot train so im sure it is way worse on the fresh anniversary realms.
Im kinda done with retail atm and thus wanted to play fresh for a bit. But the amount of bots is a massive turn down for me. Guess I'll be playing GW2 for a bit
Well there is not that many bots its only youtube hate trains. I have played not for 3 weeks i am level 60 and i have only seen 1 bot in this time.
@@Thedrunkenswede1337liar
Bots are managed under Devs control. Surprise! They make a huge income on this function. So this issue will never fade. Get use to it...
The worst part is, the bots are only here because there is a demand for them from the players.
Its a spiral really. Poor countries see a lucrative job opportunity. They sell some gold. The prices inflate. Then you and your American job can either farm all weekend long or buy the same stuff from 1-2 hours at the job. My point being: Its harder to blame the buyers than the farmers/bots themselves.
report every bot, each time you see them. POINT .
Blizzard insiders clearly are incentivized to keep botting around. I wouldn’t be surprised if half of the WOW classic team and/or classic team veterans are botting themselves.
A stark reminder that you do not mess with the WoW bot mafia. They not only control the game, but Blizzard as well!
The best thing to do is stay quiet, keep your head down, and leave the bots alone, or else the mafia will get you!
Thank you for covering this.
I farmed elemental water for an hour to make some final gold for my 40 mount like I did in 2019 classic. In 2019, they each sold for 2.5-5g. Because of bots and mega servers they now sell for 6 silver.
At this rate, half the problem is the buyers people dont feel bad about gold buying anymore and other players who dont buy gold just accept it now instead of kicking these players from raids, guilds, its pretty obvious alot of the time if someone buys gold
I gave all my gold to a girl, only to find out she was a bot.
the rpoblem is in game design with botters 100% . why would i grind for ingame coin when i can pay 5 bucks to actually playing the game when i have 2-3 hours a day
found the mobile game zoomer
I thought banning GDKP was going to mitigate this problem. So much for that!
Watching this made me get a bot program, going to set up 3 accounts, never knew it was this easy to earn money on it, wondering though if i should release them at different times? incase a ban wave show up? could lose all 3 or put one and ne out every 2nd week and lose some bot time but also not lose all bots instantly if a wave come? curious if anyone know the best way to earn cash on this?
To those who get pissed, sorry but if blizz dont give a shiz why should i? Hell ill make a deal with you guys, if blizzard ever take botting serious ill remove my bots (if this shit take off and work as well as they say it will) if its as lucerative as these people say this is way better than the stocks i been dabbling in.
Strange, because I play on EU PVP server and I don't see many bots at all, do they only go to PVE servers?
I can imagine theres bots on the PVP server too, but since they get ganked by the opposite faction they are not making as much value as they do on PVE/HC servers.
I play alliance on Spineshatter EU and ive haven’t encountered bots as for now, almost level 30.
They're all over in Spineshatter mate
The private servers do a better job of getting rid of bots
I have reported 100+ and not received a single mail confirming action. My guildies have been more fortunate but honestly it feels like Blizzard do not give a damn.
I made it to level 22, did not renew my account. I was giving them another chance to take care of bots, they just can't.
Which mod is showing you level split times?
Blizzard won't stop botting because it brings MONEY for THEM. THE ONLY WAY to stop botting is if we all unite together and stop playing until they fix that shit. Otherwise, there is no way out. And this works for everyting in society.
What bot are they using? I haven't seen more that a fee. Almost all people fight back when I kill em
Unfortunately the truth is that "anyone who is botting pays blizzard sub fee" so due to this blizzard doesnt care because they are making money from the bots. The only time blizzard will care is if player base drops and due to that botting drops (no gold to sell to anyone) then blizzard will try to fix it...but it'll be too late...I am almost at my limit for how much abuse I can take from people cheating in this game
Quitting wouldn't help either. All they would do is implement the wow token to recoup their losses
they are NOT making money from bots. they buy wow time with tokens....
The people that are keeping bots alive are the players that are buying the gold.
why didnt you show the bot spots with bots fishing?
I just unsubbed both my accts due to bots. No point in a fresh server if there are bots to ruin it. I knew this was gonna happen but I had high hopes.... boy was I wrong. Never again.
whats ur take on warlock summon bots making money fully automated? thats botting aswel imo
Looks like a new expansion... "Wrath of the Lich Bots"
caught a few bots trying to farm Prince Nazjak, not sure how to report. Only options i have are regarding harassment.
Issue here is that unless the thing you say is I hate bots I quit then nothing will change
Blizzard should have had a handle on this issue years ago, but it seems they have given up, very sad to hear about Madskillzzhc quitting the fight over threats
same thing different day. blizzard gets money from bots. bots make money botting the game. costs money to constantly battle them. even normal players will bot in off times.
crazy how turtle wow ( a private server ) , has a better implementation of classic +, has more control over bots and absolute have 0 RMT tolerance.
Billion dollar company
Just for research purposes, how would one start up a few bots? Asking purely for research……
any bright side to this?
You can not do a single quest under 1-2 hours due to all the bots killing everything in sight. I receive ingame messages from Blizzard every other day - they took action blabla - I don't believe that. Millions of bots still swarming everywhere - and on top its the holidays and millions of REAL players everywhere. Just took my 3 hours to complete a ususally 20 minutes quest!!!
I gave up when I realized blizzard doesn't care at all
The problem is bots have to pay for a subscription as well. How many toons can you have on one realm with one subscription? I have never had more than 2-6 so I don't know if is there a max. My point is if bots have to pay a subscription why would Blizzard band them. that means Blizzard is losing money. Is Blizzard willing to allow the game to suck for real players to make money off the Bot accounts, Well it seems so.
Haven’t seen a single one on Thunderstrike EU. Playing since launch day.
How about AH bots? It feels like no matter what, you get undercut 1 second after posting any kind of farmable material.
try selling stuff in trade chat if you have issues.
Blizzard is getting a cut from these organized bot runners. There's NO way they aren't getting a piece of the action considering how bad the bot situation and gold selling is.
They did the math, they're not stupid. The sub money from all the bot accounts feeds itself back from selling the gold in the first place.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sort of agreement with some of the bigger gold selling sites to get a cut from their profits. These things usually operate on such a large scale without hiccups purely because everyone involved make a profit. It's the golden rule of corruption, i.e as long as every side benefits no one will want to do anything to stop it regardless of moral repercussions.
the only thing that blizzard have done w/ bots that has worked consistently is wow token, hardly ever see bots on retail & cata
Why should blizzard do something about botting if 1)they benefit from it 2)chumps will keeppaying their sub forever no matter what ?
If I was blizzard I would do nothing about botting, there's no reason to.
Threats from bot companies? Easy fix. Send those letters or emails to the DHS.
100%
You think DHS gives a shit about death threats from botts lol okkkkkk the govt is not here to help you 😊
I don’t see it. I see hundreds of active players, loving the game playing together
How do you know if they are bots?
If they are there 24/7 it's not a player.
ban buyers
Making 10k a month just botting gold? No way man. What prices are people paying for virtual gold then?
The economies on the new servers is already totally scuffed.
If you see a hunter with a Chinese pet name, it’s a bot
Pretty sure I saw some bots running around elwyn forest mining copper in the first week after the new launch
They ran in a straight line from one ore to the next and at one point there were 3 running side by side and all trying to mine the same ore.
I assume it was bots cause otherwise it was weird
The best thing back in classic on my server was, that it was locked until Ahn quiraj and that it was german speaking. This kept the flood away, slowed it down and exposed someone who could only speak english. I was literally one out of 3 people or so who could do big Mara boosts and i was just a normal player, good times.
As long as there is a market, the bots will continue and profit. Target the buyers.
My opinion but blizzard is hesitant because these botters are paying money for subs which helps blizz when they have to show their sub counts per quarter and all that financial stuff.
Well I hope they’re happy my friends got me to play and I’ve gifted 300.00 to wow just in mistakes due to the store confusing me. Now 172 of that is for the year subscription so it wasn’t total confusion but I purchased retail thinking it was classic . Given my friends could’ve told me classic came with the subscription 😫
why are the fresh servers progressing so fast, I am unemployed and no lifing the game, only level 56 on my main, a druid, I am the highest level toon in my guild, and just about all the members of the guild quit when it was revealed that phase two is already hanging over our heads and we wont be ready to raid for a month or more prolly, I was willing to play these servers for a few years even but I keep getting gut punched and face stomped by this release,
Does not matter really people will still be doing mc and onyxia. And why phase 2 comes out faster is because it is whit phase 2 we get honor and more PvP stuff. So saying you are getting gut punched and face stomped just because you dont raid on day one tells me you dont know how the game works. And on this the vanilla will be playing for 1,2-1,5 years then tbc will release this was stated from the beginning.
because these realms are nothing more than tbc waiting rooms. no one cares about vanilla anymore since it has been done to death
@@wingsofunlimitedpepsi6817 lol, denial of reality, you are being farmed by fomo-merchants and you are quite well programmed, don't let me stop you from consuming product brother, *salutes*
@@Thedrunkenswede1337 wow, how can you see me from way up there,
@@noheartfourteeneightyeight its not about fomo its about vnanilla being an inferior game to any other expansion 🤷♂
They have to do something, this is out of control...
Blizzard got my money once again. 15 dollars and I quit classic wow again.
Thanks for having the courage to speak up and give many of us a voice that otherwise never would have been heard.
Haven't seen one bot on Nightslayer everyone should just go there and deal with the forced pvp
you saw the guy whgo ws hunting bots gave up and took his vids down because he was threatened? we need to start taking them down.
Bots are in every expansion and blizzard bans gdkp not bots
Pay for 20 GM salaries that only go after bots. Stop blaming players for a problem that Blizzard COULD aggressively deter.
No real gm = nothing will happen. Also the people that still play/pay/support blizz are the true villains.
6 figures… what is blizzard going to do? Ban them? They just make a 100 more new accounts. Look at how much crying over the trade cool down on new accounts got. At this point it’s the player base fucking it up, stop buying gold period.
bots gonna go where ever the players are. its kind of wild not seeing a lot of bots in era right now. even the AH is a barren wasteland at times. like you cant even find some items on the AH most bots would be farming ie lotus or arcane crystals. everything is in such short supply, and i bet the gold buying going crazy in fresh right now.
You could inspect people at 60ish a week ago and see everything that u need to know about the state of gold buying. Many 60s decked out with purple/blue BoE that cost hunderds if not thousands of gold.
i do not çare about bots and the Economy of the server. Still having fun as a casual player
That's why I unsubbed. It's the same problem that had Lost Ark. The bot killed that game, literally.
A guy was gettin death threats for killing bots on hardcore releam
I haven’t seen a single bot l maybe I’m not high enough level only in my 40s on 3 toons
yeah i play like 4 -6 hours a day and i havent seen one yet... and im on NA pvp horde... but i mean im sure theyre out there
Same only seen 1 bot and i am level 60 now but hey people always jump on the hate train on youtube. Ofc they have not played it for themselfs
Same, i have no idea where these guys are that they have so many bots around them lol
If you pay even a little attention and move to locations that ain't used too much, you will see bots running around 😅 might be a bit hard to spot them at the beginning, but more you see em the more you see the same patterns, gear etc pop up
@ so if I go to places no one goes….. and I go out of my way , I can maybe find bots there …. Are you hearing this or is it just me
Botting sucks and payed addons suck too.
blizzard literally doesn't care and hasn't cared for 20 y ears i don't know why y'all nerds act surprised
Blizzard is getting paid by these botters like cops in the 70s
Blizzard would rather waste time banning real players
Blizzard wants the bots. People need to accept it and find another game to play. Let them have the "players" they so dearly want. Maybe once they lose enough money they'll figure it out (but probably not).