Nintendo WANTS you to emulate

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Wow. So Yuzu completely folded. They didn’t try to fight it. They just rolled over and gave up. They agreed to pay Nintendo $2.4 million. And that’s a huge blow to emulation.
    But I found another company that Nintendo needs to go after. This company has habitually enabled piracy by selling products that are compatible with Nintendo’s own software and that enable wanton emulation of Nintendo’s own games. Not only that, but the availability of these products entice users to commit piracy. I mean, as we all know, EMULATION IS NEVER ACCEPTABLE. It says so right here. On Nintendo’s own website.
    supporting emulation… supports the illegal piracy of our products
    So what company would so brazenly violate Nintendo’s hardline stance against emulation and sell a device that enables end users to emulate Nintendo games?
    Nintendo, of course.
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    00:00 Yuzu surrendered
    01:40 Jailbreak the SNES Classic
    02:48 Nintendo's lie exposed
    03:48 "Piracy" is a lie
    04:36 Nintendo wants extralegal authority over their artificial market
    05:16 It's time for anti-trust against Nintendo
    #nintendo #emulation #gaming
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  • @gardiner_bryant
    @gardiner_bryant  3 місяці тому +20

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    • @maxpanther2082
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    • @AdachiTrevelyan006
      @AdachiTrevelyan006 3 місяці тому

      Will you make a video on how to turn a Nintendo switch into a plastic explosive

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  3 місяці тому +1

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    • @maxpanther2082
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  • @zerotymn
    @zerotymn 3 місяці тому +134

    Remember what Gabe Newell said that “ Piracy is only a problem due to the lack of service or just plain terrible service. “

    • @Lovingisnecessary
      @Lovingisnecessary 3 місяці тому

      Nintendo 64 didn't make enough games, specifically N64 didn't make enough 3d platformer titles for kids growing up in the 90s.

  • @dmcosiris1678
    @dmcosiris1678 3 місяці тому +305

    Nintendo deserves to be pirated at this point. Legacy doesn't mean you can be as anticonsumer as you want with no recourse. That's a damning sign of a corporation with waaaay too much pull. I pay for every single game I play, always have. But at this point I almost feel like it's my due diligence to send a message.

    • @dangermouseuk78
      @dangermouseuk78 3 місяці тому +6

      Legally only a museum or an official archivist can have a copy for preservation purposes. You do not have the right to do so, in fact you can only have back ups of games you personally own. And you cannot use that back up for any other purpose such as playing it using an emulator. Also you must get rid of any back ups of games you sell or don't own. These are current rules regarding game ownership according to US law.

    • @jakescartoons6045
      @jakescartoons6045 3 місяці тому

      @@dangermouseuk78 Blow me.

    • @potatoofmemes
      @potatoofmemes 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@dangermouseuk78 so in other words you can only preserve wnd distribute any copies of a game you already bought. But not for pirated ones.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 3 місяці тому +7

      ​@@potatoofmemesI mean, you can't even legally back up anything digital because it's breaking the encrypted DRM, but nobody enforces that rule.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 3 місяці тому +1

      The problem is that Nintendo is one of the few AAA companies that are still making fun single-player games. That kind of behavior needs to be rewarded. We need to vote with her wallets to get quality games.

  • @steamdeck_cruzie
    @steamdeck_cruzie 3 місяці тому +36

    Brother, you just became my spirit animal. I would scream everything you just said at the top of my lungs on the highest mountain. Liked, followed, and shared my guy.

  • @jxwong_3982
    @jxwong_3982 3 місяці тому +81

    After the claim was filed, I realised that Nintendo has never explicitly referred to their retro game rereleases on NSO/VC/their Classic Edition microconsoles as “emulation”. And now I see why-they’re framing emulation itself as this blanket term for circumvention, piracy etc. and labelling all of it unlawful while painting their own offerings as something different, something lawful. I wouldn’t be surprised if they see emulated versions of NES games on VC as Wii U games, or on NSO, as Switch games (“the Wii U/Nintendo Switch release of Super Mario Bros.”). They want to frame their emulated titles as native games and fan emulation as this unlawful menace consuming their property.
    This is tangentially related to the REAL reason why they’re going after emulation that isn’t theirs, which you raised-it disrupts the watertight control they would otherwise have on supply of their games, which enables them to keep being IP landlords keeping rent high on empty houses while people are without a house on the streets. Emulation is the only true alternative for long-term preservation, but it’s the only one that doesn’t benefit Nintendo’s business strategy-even scalpers reselling at obscene prices benefits them by raising prices and making their official releases look more desirable in comparison.
    Ultimately, Nintendo’s approach to its older offerings is all about restrictiveness and control, and that hasn’t changed. And this victory, even if it doesn’t set legal precedent, may have just emboldened them to go after more emulators.
    On that note, however, I would have a little consideration for the litigants in question. Tropic Haze had a good reason to fold and go for a settlement given how much was at stake financially and how much less prolonged and tedious things could’ve been for them compared to months of exhausting litigation. Them “surrendering” was a choice they opted to make in light of their financial situation and resources in comparison to Nintendo-and if they did “roll over”, I don’t think they were blameworthy to opt for that choice.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +4

      If Nintendo wants to sue people profiting from emulation, or copyright violations like unauthorized sharing (which are very different things), they should sue themselves. Out of everyone in the world, the entity making the most profit from those things ... is Nintendo. They sell emulators and ROMs, including ROMs they almost certainly downloaded from pirate sites, complete with the headers and signature from the fans who originally created the files. Their emulators are almost certainly using code written by the emulation community. And whenever software "piracy" has been studied, results showed that it tends to increase profits for the copyright owners, not decrease... because it effectively functions as free advertising or a gateway drug.
      Basically, Nintendo is making a pretty significant profit from the efforts of the emulation community. And to thank them, Nintendo steals what their fans built, sells it, and sues the people who made it. I can pretty much guarantee that in 10 or 15 years, Nintendo will sell a Switch emulator built from Yuzu's code. They won't publish the code even though the open-source license requires it. And they won't be taken to court for their crimes, because the authors won't have the resources to fight back.

    • @jxwong_3982
      @jxwong_3982 3 місяці тому +2

      @@ToyKeeper Oh, Nintendo has definitely taken it a step further on that front before, even if they haven't explicitly admitted to it. Remember when they hired PIs to stalk 3DS hackers and essentially blackmailed them into working for them to avoid a lawsuit? Nintendo knows how potent fan emulation and its developers are-why else would they feel so threatened by it? It's not profit from emulation in itself that Nintendo is opposed to, as the video here lays out well-it's the disruption to the tightly restrictive system of control over availability, pricing and demand that they want to have, which they're enforcing by way of their proprietary rights.
      The lack of sense in going after "piracy" and other oddities of this copyright system definitely come of the incongruencies of applying the mindset and regime of a real-property landlord to digital property like video game software. Not that landlords were all that loved in their own sphere to begin with...

    • @ProjectionProjects2.7182
      @ProjectionProjects2.7182 3 місяці тому

      @@jxwong_3982
      Bingo, You hit the nail right on the head on why Nintendo is doing this.

  • @TheMahayanist
    @TheMahayanist 3 місяці тому +213

    Piracy is a service/access problem.

    • @commentarysheep
      @commentarysheep 3 місяці тому +41

      Gaben said if you provide a better service than the pirates with fair prices, piracy ceases to exist.
      These idiotic Japanese suits at the top of Nintendo didn’t seen to get the message from Mr. Newell.

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 3 місяці тому +7

      @@commentarysheepLet Nintendo's executives destroy themselves, they are dinosaurs stuck on the Wii/Gamecube eras.

    • @MotorcitycrownsPod
      @MotorcitycrownsPod 3 місяці тому +5

      Piracy as a service?

    • @ProjectionProjects2.7182
      @ProjectionProjects2.7182 3 місяці тому

      Bingo

    • @Coldsteak
      @Coldsteak 3 місяці тому

      yes that's exactly what was said in the video. you are very smart

  • @ErnestJGaineyIII
    @ErnestJGaineyIII 3 місяці тому +64

    Switch 2, coming soon, with backwards compatibility provided by "our in-house built" Yuzu emulator....

    • @TheAcadianGuy
      @TheAcadianGuy 3 місяці тому +6

      yup

    • @AdmiralBison
      @AdmiralBison 3 місяці тому +12

      That'd be about right.
      It's not the first time corporations have used public emulators themselves.
      I think Sony did that for it's mini Playstation console launched a few years ago.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +9

      It's virtually guaranteed that, at some point in the next 20 years, Nintendo will sell at least one emulator based on Yuzu's code. And they won't publish the sources, despite legally being required to do so. And nobody will take them to court for it, because it's too expensive. And Nintendo won't even feel bad about it.

    • @JeremyPaulStiles
      @JeremyPaulStiles 3 місяці тому +3

      Part of the settlement was that yuzu had to hand over all of their data.. it's Ninuzu now.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +3

      @@JeremyPaulStilesIt's published under a GPLv2+ license, so the entire world has the right to use the code, modify it, sell it, make derivative works, etc. Nintendo had that right regardless of whether they owned the copyright, and so does everyone else.

  • @PixelShade
    @PixelShade 3 місяці тому +29

    I share your sentiment Gardiner! I will never give Nintendo another dime until they change, and they will have a hard time winning me back. I have gone from absolutely loving their software and hardware, to absolutely despise the company.

  • @andrewhamop6665
    @andrewhamop6665 3 місяці тому +28

    The amount of four letter words I have for the Eggheads at Nintendo is simply astonishing...
    Luckily for them I have the entire Yuzu and Citra repo and source code including all sub modules required for a compilation, and all of the APKs and OS specific binaries.
    The Yuzu/Citra team may be gone, but their project will never be erased from the internet. Nintendo knows this however, and their objective was simply to get it off of the mainstream and discourage any future large-scale emulator development.
    The whole legal issues with the patreon and tears of the Kingdom working before it was officially launched is another story entirely, but I was sad to see this happen and furious with Nintendo.

    • @celiskurtis
      @celiskurtis 3 місяці тому

      So will you put those things online again? Or give it to someone who will?

    • @grants7390
      @grants7390 3 місяці тому +3

      the yuzu emulator didn't work with TOTK before launch until someone unconnected with yuzu made a patch and as far as I'm aware yuzu never directed people to said patch.

  • @zdanee
    @zdanee 3 місяці тому +52

    I really hope for Nintendo's sake that they never ever used any GPL software. And if they did, they published the source code. They wouldn't violate a software licence and steal other people's hard work, right? So... what OS is this little emulation box running on and where can I obtain the source code for it again?

    • @3osufdh4rfg
      @3osufdh4rfg 3 місяці тому +10

      Yeah that would be interesting.

    • @TheCodeAlwaysWins
      @TheCodeAlwaysWins 3 місяці тому +6

      I am sure there is software that does use GNU sitting in mGBA dependencies or one of many of their products.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +12

      It's virtually guaranteed that, at some point in the next 20 years, Nintendo will sell at least one emulator based on Yuzu's code. And they won't publish the sources, despite legally being required to do so. And nobody will take them to court for it, because it's too expensive. And Nintendo won't even feel bad about it. I don't think their management understands the concept of other people having rights.

  • @HumanGamer
    @HumanGamer 3 місяці тому +10

    Agree totally that there should be an Anti-Trust case against nintendo

  • @logos4294
    @logos4294 3 місяці тому +6

    This is so damn based, bro. I said the same to a friend. We got into a huge argument. This company is machievellian evil.

    • @TMHLBPFan
      @TMHLBPFan 3 місяці тому +3

      Need a new friend

  • @kittenzrulz2314
    @kittenzrulz2314 3 місяці тому +201

    If Nintendo released their games on Steam I would happily pay tons of money, sadly Nintendo hates money and would rather have control

    • @thingsiplay
      @thingsiplay 3 місяці тому +30

      Agreed! After this attack from Nintendo, I won't buy hardware or physical software that is locked to their hardware and operating systems, ever again.

    • @lilsoonerfaninmo
      @lilsoonerfaninmo 3 місяці тому

      I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say what they're doing is abusive of copyright law
      Yes, they're very.....overhanded with their IP protection (which goes way too far), calling this abusive would suggest they're somehow circumventing the law through some kinda loophole, which simply isn't happening
      Nintendo is in their legal right, 100%, to do this shit if they want. Yes, it's morally corrupt, but the use of "abusive" just hits me as attempting to fear monger others to believe what you do
      ....which is extra silly because emulation is still doing ok for itself, even on the Switch side of the isle, with stuff like Ryujinx and other Switch emulators still being readily available

    • @akosmarton8339
      @akosmarton8339 3 місяці тому +6

      But in the end, they don't have that either.

    • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
      @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 3 місяці тому +8

      If they weren't such hypocrites to the fans & to emulation communities, i probably would too!

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 3 місяці тому +14

      If Palworld is that sucessful is because people want Pokémon for the PC Master Race.

  • @PyroTech03
    @PyroTech03 3 місяці тому +11

    Nintendo is the Disney of video games.

    • @geistreichtube
      @geistreichtube 3 місяці тому

      I always refer to them as the Apple of video games.

    • @PyroTech03
      @PyroTech03 3 місяці тому

      @@geistreichtube that works too

  • @BryanMinnix
    @BryanMinnix 3 місяці тому +65

    I'm done supporting Nintendo as a company.

  • @Schlumpsha
    @Schlumpsha 3 місяці тому +23

    It will be fun to witness the army of Yuzu and Citra clone emulators in the near future. Gotta love open source code out in the wild.

  • @thingsiplay
    @thingsiplay 3 місяці тому +19

    BTW Sega, Atari and SNK in example are selling ROMs tied with an emulator in Steam.

    • @mjcox242
      @mjcox242 3 місяці тому +6

      And honestly, love the sega genasis roms on steam.
      Do I need to steam family share to play sonic 3, yes, but doesnt stop me buying a mega-pack of genesis roms and dragging them into a non-offical emulator

    • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
      @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 3 місяці тому +3

      So Sega, SNK & the others know that emulating is perfectly fine then. So Nintendo is the only actual hypocritical company that's throwing a fit here??

    • @i-dont-burn-under-the-sun
      @i-dont-burn-under-the-sun 3 місяці тому

      @@sonicthejetsetbeat7465 Unless they want to release a bug ridden new shinny port, then no roms for you.

    • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
      @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 3 місяці тому +2

      @@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun True that. As long they know emulators themselves are harmless & don't just do like what Nintendo is doing like flipping a lid over emulations while being a hypocrite towards emulations, then it is what it is. Just let the emulation live & squash this "Nintendo X Emulation" beef & just park this nonsense in both ways so we both can be happy. 😓😓

    • @gabrielandy9272
      @gabrielandy9272 3 місяці тому

      @@sonicthejetsetbeat7465 purpose of emulation is to preserve history of old games, emulaiton is not illegal, the only illegal part is the piracy (not paying for the game, but if you have the game you have the right to emulate it)
      even CAPCOM sell their old mega man games emulated on steam, many companys does it.

  • @ogrooster69
    @ogrooster69 3 місяці тому +10

    As a general advisement to people, please be mindful of the countless forks of Yuzu that are going to be popping up. When Vanced first got struck down, some of the spiritual successors were straight up malware preying on the excitement that 'the movement lives on.'

  • @albertopajuelomontes2066
    @albertopajuelomontes2066 3 місяці тому +113

    Dont worry Guys, Yuzu is open source, it will be forked and live on!

    • @AdmiralBison
      @AdmiralBison 3 місяці тому +28

      already is.
      Suyu and word of others being developed right now.

    • @82andymac
      @82andymac 3 місяці тому +15

      Nuzu is another nu one that's just appeared out of nowhere today😂
      Nuzu/Suyu emulates what nintendont like😢😢😢 F nintendo

    • @neostratagem8130
      @neostratagem8130 3 місяці тому +11

      @@82andymac suyu omg that made me laugh I love that name for the next switch emu

    • @richgoldenguy2177
      @richgoldenguy2177 3 місяці тому +3

      Thing is that it cant be developed futher tho

    • @Rairosu
      @Rairosu 3 місяці тому

      PFFT after the cowards layed down and took it in the butt. This shouldn't even be necessary. When people like Yuzu don't even fight I see them as cowards. I dont care if they end up in actual jail. When your a rebel who fights for injustice, You fight to the bitter end not give in to fear. I hope who ever is the next owner of the forked code dont take it laying down if Nintendo comes knocking, Look I like Nintendo as much as the next guy, But this, this crosses the line. Both Nintendo and Emulators can coexist in peace. But this injustice? Makes my blood boil. And also in my eyes anyone who runs in fear from Nintendo to me are not brave or smart. You want Emulation to stay? Fight, Fight to make it stay. Some games that have a network like Pokemon I will buy on the hardware but games like for example Pokemon Stadium I would emulate for example. Sometimes I buy on actual hardware and some games are emulated its a trade off. Depends on the game.

  • @mdiego3847
    @mdiego3847 3 місяці тому +48

    Agreed, I will never directly give Nintendo money for a product. Even if they start being customer friendly. I will always think it is a trick, get the axe.

  • @doctahjonez
    @doctahjonez 3 місяці тому +7

    It is morally correct to pirate Nintendo software.

  • @Xerachiel
    @Xerachiel 3 місяці тому +5

    I will never get tired of saying that the world made a mistake in the 2000s, because it was NINTENDO that had to die, not Sega

    • @Stoppskylten
      @Stoppskylten 3 місяці тому +1

      That was never even in the cards. It was either SEGA or Microsoft that had to go. (non starters like 3-DO and many others not even part of the deck aside obviously)
      It sure would have been for the better if Microsoft just gave up after their first try though. Because if one company has made both console and PC gaming worse it's them.
      But the cannibalising of SEGA is really in the end on them. SEGA got involved with Microsoft long before they eventually suffered the consequences of it.

    • @Xerachiel
      @Xerachiel 3 місяці тому

      @@Stoppskylten I know it wasnt in the cards. I'm just saying Nintendo deserved to go more than Sega ever did.
      And btw, in terms of videogames, nowadays I would rather have another Microsoft than Sony or Nintendo 🤷

    • @Stoppskylten
      @Stoppskylten 3 місяці тому

      @@Xerachiel Why though. What actually positive changes do you consider they brought into the game when they entered?
      The negatives goes quite a bit farther than killing off SEGA after all.
      Third party bought exclusives. Subscription costs. Excessive hardware lock-ins.

    • @ZeroFanfare
      @ZeroFanfare 3 місяці тому

      @@StoppskyltenWell, Microsoft enabled Steam, so that’s a HUGE plus right there.

    • @Stoppskylten
      @Stoppskylten 3 місяці тому

      @@ZeroFanfare If in the same sense Hitler enabled communication satellites, HDTV and you, ok I guess.. Bit reaching though innit. 😂
      And just as saying two of those things would be an inevitability at some point anyway, then so would a storefront for games be. Even if it was on Commodore Portals OS.
      What it was referring to though was actual innovation or improvement, and of course in the context primarily to the console space. Not secondary happenstance backfires from greed or corruption. I.E: Nintendo creating Playstation was most likely not the intent of Nintendo.

  • @rossmclaughlin7158
    @rossmclaughlin7158 3 місяці тому +32

    Nintendo sell roms now there's an idea that would actually solve everything 💯

    • @potatoofmemes
      @potatoofmemes 3 місяці тому +4

      That'll definitely help in the long run but piracy will still attempt to go after those roms because of Nintendo's prices. Some people cant afford to pay the price Nintendo gave them.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +9

      They already do sell roms. In some cases, the roms are bit-for-bit identical to the ones available on p2p sites, even including the header and signature from the fans who originally dumped and uploaded the cartridge. The community wrote the emulators and built the rom libraries, and Nintendo thanked them by suing them, taking what they made, and reselling it.

  • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
    @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 3 місяці тому +10

    I keep forgetting about that! Nintendo is a hardcore emulating hypocrites! They hate emulators, but they made a SNES mini to emulate! Bro they need to go out of business. & it sucked that most fans don't see an error behind all this. 😓

    • @yakrayakra5
      @yakrayakra5 3 місяці тому

      If they can't change with the times it comes to reason they should stop. They have been around since 1889, they have had a good run... might be time for that company to just quit.

  • @JohnSmithIlIlIlIl
    @JohnSmithIlIlIlIl 3 місяці тому +5

    Also, who's fault is it the Switch is weaker than a basic PS4!?
    Yuzu runs games with a fraction of the load times compared to the Switch.
    What they should have done was release a special dock with a GPU, extra ram, extra storage, and processing power built in.
    Call it...the Switch Pro Dock. It would at least double the performance of the Switch when at home.

  • @RabidLeroy
    @RabidLeroy 3 місяці тому +6

    We’re gonna need rum. Lots and lots of rum.

  • @AdmiralBison
    @AdmiralBison 3 місяці тому +8

    Emulation is multiplying.
    There's already word work is being done on several Yuzu forks.
    Also RYUJINX still exists people and DeSemuME & Mikage can run 3DS games.

  • @postnick
    @postnick 3 місяці тому +3

    I love this takeaway. Piracy is a service problem. I quit downloading music once I got spotify. I quit downloading movies once i got netflix. Now i'm being nickel and dimed to death and looking forward to sailing the high seas.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 3 місяці тому

      I stopped pirating Microsoft Office once I found LibreOffice.
      I stopped pirating all but the oldest PC games once I signed up for Steam.
      I stopped pirating Windows because I moved to Linux Mint.
      The movies and TV shows never stopped, but just became rare as there wasn't that much I wanted.
      Music has always been rare, as the vast majority of what I listen to was free to begin with (Go, Demoscene!), so no need for piracy or streaming.

  • @jalipeno97
    @jalipeno97 3 місяці тому +5

    id argue the way things ended is for the best, since settling out of court means no legal precedent has been set. challenging this in court and losing (which was a fair possibility even despite the bullshit accusations) would have been enough to justify nintendo in pursuing pretty much every single other emulator for their older systems

  • @spicydeath82
    @spicydeath82 3 місяці тому +4

    there's already a new version of yuzu out there. 6 replacements actually.

  • @theBoomerDoomer
    @theBoomerDoomer 3 місяці тому +41

    Let’s also not forget that they’re still charging launch day prices for launch titles or titles that came out early in the Switch lifecycle.
    I grew up on Nintendo… it’s angers and saddens me to see them continue to abuse the market they had a hand in creating.

    • @crazymcgee3604
      @crazymcgee3604 3 місяці тому +1

      On the one hand I would love to buy Nintendo games and directly copy the ROMs onto my Steam Deck but their policies towards someone like me (no console = a pirate despite buying their games) makes it so easy to fly the black flag for their titles. Not that I do that, mind you, I only do it on the up and up.

    • @Hyvexx
      @Hyvexx 3 місяці тому

      On of the reasons why I still don't have super smash bros is because I'm a broke ass kid that can't justify 60 dollars on a single game.

    • @saintlugia
      @saintlugia 3 місяці тому

      Question: legitimately I've never gotten why people get mad about charging full price for games that came out years ago. It's a videogame not a load of bread breath of the wild will still run and play just as well as it did on launch day.
      Keep in mind I think games are too expensive so I buy used games or games on sale.

    • @Saif0412
      @Saif0412 3 місяці тому

      Dropped the Switch like a bad egg when the Steam Deck came out and not looked back. 😊

    • @Mallchad
      @Mallchad 3 місяці тому

      @@saintlugia I don't get it either. They're legally entitled to set whatever price they please. Game development is expensive. And other companies only put things on sale to try and squeeze money out of people otherwise hestitant to buy, which is not morally better in any way.

  • @SirenGlitch
    @SirenGlitch 3 місяці тому +11

    I'm just going to say one word and wait for the comments to find it. Suyu

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 3 місяці тому +34

    They know emulation's the key to future backwards compatibility and hoping to ban fair emulation, want ancient games to be making them money forever.
    That's all it's about. Plenty people paid multiple times over for some games since the c64/NES days-- we should be free to emulate them wherever and however we want.

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 3 місяці тому

      Or its an Xbox One 360 Scenario
      The BC is the Emulation of Switch

    • @runed0s86
      @runed0s86 3 місяці тому +4

      The real question here is how many times can they get us to buy Super mario bros 3 before the market collapses?

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому +1

      Meanwhile, the market is flooded lately with cheap emulation boxes which offer a fantastic user experience and include the majority of all retro games ever made, and the ability to easily add more. Thanks to the efforts of countless people in the community, it's not even hard to build one. Take almost any standard hardware, add a screen and buttons and storage, install some open-source software, and add a copy of some nicely-curated game libraries... and the result is a lifetime worth of great games in a slick package, far better than any "virtual console" Nintendo ever produced. And you can get all this for $50 or less. Or even just do it on a device you already have, for free.

    • @interlace84
      @interlace84 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ToyKeeper that's actually helping nintendo by explaining the exact type of piracy they've been using as some legal shield :/
      What you're describing has been possible for many years and isn't the point; they just took a big step towards taking the whole of private game emulation out of the picture looking forward, no matter what you own or paid up for.
      For now yuzu looks like an outlier but they're looking to set a precedent, and others have already abandoned their own emulators in response.

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 3 місяці тому

      @@interlace84I'd like to set a precedent. Copyright law badly needs a complete overhaul, shortening the time before works fall to public domain. Given how fast the world moves now, even 20 years seems like it might be a bit too long. And software patents should be even shorter, like maybe 5 years.

  • @ANTLink19
    @ANTLink19 3 місяці тому +2

    You're unhinged. I love it bro.

  • @hdkv
    @hdkv 3 місяці тому +6

    When I leaened about Yuzu shutdon I immediately cloned source code outside of Github and placed it in my private instance with the description "f u Nintendo, I'm in Russia, sue me xD".
    Hope Suyu will get more coverage and stable development team to continue providing good emulation of Switch.

  • @sjenkinsnm
    @sjenkinsnm 3 місяці тому +6

    Don't forget the switch emulates a ton of games they are selling over again

  • @gallium711
    @gallium711 3 місяці тому +42

    Yuzu didn't "fold", it was a matter of legal fees threatening to bankrupt them. Disrespectful.

    • @CD-vb9fi
      @CD-vb9fi 3 місяці тому +11

      it's a fold... but one anyone can understand.

    • @lumeronswift
      @lumeronswift 3 місяці тому +12

      It's horrifying that the fees to protect yourself from false accusations are so expensive.

    • @Evil0tto
      @Evil0tto 3 місяці тому +5

      As the saying goes, "the process is the punishment."

    • @TheCodeAlwaysWins
      @TheCodeAlwaysWins 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@CD-vb9fiit's coersion and abuse of the legal system. There are actually laws against it in most states but it would be expensive either way.

    • @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb
      @MichaelWilliams-lr4mb 3 місяці тому +1

      Were the legal fees more than the settlement? $2.4 Million?

  • @jollygoodfellow3957
    @jollygoodfellow3957 3 місяці тому +3

    This guy simultaneously looks 12 and 35.

  • @awakenedcrowl
    @awakenedcrowl 3 місяці тому +3

    Based video. Yuzu also did their fair share of bullsh*t in this matter, but Nintendo claiming to fight piracy, but really just fighting emulation, which they do themselves, without any actual hit to piracy is just weak and stupid.

  • @thingsiplay
    @thingsiplay 3 місяці тому +22

    But you know, at least Yuzu did not lost in court. Because this would be even worse for the entire emulation world. This settlement is probably the best realistic outcome, other than Yuzu flatout winning over Nintendo, which they don't have the money for probably.

  • @LeoDamascusVG
    @LeoDamascusVG 3 місяці тому +8

    Adding to the moral authority stuff, I actually bought TotK, Legends Areceus, and Luigi's Mansion 3 (as well as some 3rd party switch exclusives) specifically to play them in Yuzu. I did this because Nintendo's games, while flawed, are still usually pretty fun, and I wanted to play them. However, I cannot play them on Nintendo's hardware, because using analog sticks hurts my wrist due to an RSI (I think; it hasn't been diagnosed) that the constant resistance from analog sticks trying to snap back to center when using them aggravates. Yuzu was a great workaround for this, since I could play Nintendo's games on my PC and use a Steam Controller configured to trackpad movement, meaning all I had to do was rest my thumbs on the pad to move without pain. But Nintendo's suit has taken this option away from me. As a result, I'm faced with either experiencing pain to play these on my Switch, or the games (which I actually paid Nintendo for) are now paperweights. This whole experience has severely soured me against Nintendo. Nobody wants to buy software that's going to brick itself, and now I have to accept that for me that will always be the case for Nintendo

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 3 місяці тому +2

      They can't delete Yuzu out of your PC, you still have it. And if you need updates, you can get a fork version of it like Pineapple EA.

    • @ProjectionProjects2.7182
      @ProjectionProjects2.7182 3 місяці тому +2

      Good on you. Keep playing games on the hardware you want to play on. Because you paid, You are morally entitled to do so. Don't listen to what Nintendo or Nintendo fanboys think.

    • @LeoDamascusVG
      @LeoDamascusVG 3 місяці тому

      @@roflBeck The timing was super bad, as I recently reinstalled my operating system (wiping my drive). But nice tip on the Pineapple EA thing. I hadn't heard of that

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 3 місяці тому

      @@LeoDamascusVG I think there's a few different ones already. Haven't really looked into it though.

    • @Tonno7
      @Tonno7 3 місяці тому

      You can still easily access to the Early Access version of Yuzu. It works well. otherwise there's always Ryujinx that works well! so keep enjoying your games as you please

  • @onlypvpcaterina-6669
    @onlypvpcaterina-6669 3 місяці тому +2

    Take that nintendo " Ouch ! " 😅

  • @mayamanign
    @mayamanign 3 місяці тому +4

    I love my Sega Genesis/CD/32X mini, SNES mini, NES mini, TurboGrafx16 mini, NeoGeo x. All hacked, all with complete libraries. ❤
    I have been gaming since 1975 and have a library of games and consoles going back that far, including NeoGeo. And I have no issue with people filing their mini consoles with ROMs.

  • @EnigmaBarry
    @EnigmaBarry 3 місяці тому +1

    "This is the hanafuda captain speaking. Launching emulation in 3...2...1. Many efforts, tears and countless hours have been put into this jewel. So, please keep this place tidied up and don't break everything! Cheers, the hanafuda captain." ~ secret message for hackers stored as a file on the NES Classic Mini.

  • @Metal-Josh
    @Metal-Josh 3 місяці тому +4

    You’re 100% on the button. Why is emulation the problem that Tears of the Kingdom leaked. I’ve commented on MadLittlePixel and RetroGameCorps that I love Nintendo games, but Jesus Christ, they’re some greedy bastards

  • @stevenshockley4237
    @stevenshockley4237 3 місяці тому +11

    I'm not buying anything from them again either. I also sold my Switch. But kept my "backups" :)

  • @djwrahfael
    @djwrahfael 3 місяці тому +13

    Worst company ever. I'll do the same thing and I won't buy any new console from them in the future!

  • @nizamrahman4665
    @nizamrahman4665 3 місяці тому +2

    "Just rolled over and gave up." nice choice of words there bud. What's a company to do? Fight against a multibillion dollar company for years and years and see your funds depleted?

    • @gardiner_bryant
      @gardiner_bryant  3 місяці тому +2

      That's typically how lawsuits work.

    • @nizamrahman4665
      @nizamrahman4665 3 місяці тому

      @@gardiner_bryant ok get your funds depleted, got it. Rather than capping their losses at 2.4m and be done with it, you'd rather have them be fucked financially for much more?

  • @gbblackknight
    @gbblackknight 3 місяці тому +2

    Well said, Mr. Bryant.

  • @optimistprime2751
    @optimistprime2751 3 місяці тому +1

    Love the pure unadulterated anger. I have a mini NES like in the video. I think i might get it hacked

  • @LelandHasGames
    @LelandHasGames 3 місяці тому +2

    This is exactly what I've been saying for awhile. If they want me to come back as a fan, they need to start selling emulators and their games on other platforms.

  • @NikolaNevenov86
    @NikolaNevenov86 3 місяці тому +1

    That intro got me thinking...In their stament Nintendo said that emulators allow people playing games on hardware that the games were not designed for. But...isn't the whole array of "arcade" games in nintendo's store doing the same. I've herd that they even use the same rom files as the pirated roms.

  • @FaLumpaGus907
    @FaLumpaGus907 3 місяці тому +1

    Like that time Nintendo got caught downloading roms to supply their Virtual Console content on the Wii. 😂

  • @McGregorMX
    @McGregorMX 3 місяці тому +2

    I fully support Nintendo wanting control, it's their product, they can do what they want with it. However, by not offering a solution to play content, they inevitably bring piracy onto themselves. People want your content, and if you don't give them an avenue to get it, they'll find their own. I'd even go as far as saying that Nintendo is ok with piracy on their old content, because they have no desire to make it available any other way.
    Emulating a currently available console is why Nintendo is cracking down. They weren't going to make billions on snes roms, so it's not as critical.

  • @electricindigoball1244
    @electricindigoball1244 3 місяці тому +1

    Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advise. While you make good points I suspect that there will never be a successful anti-trust lawsuit against Nintendo. It would take a person/company with massive financial backing who's also willing to battle Nintendo for years with an expert legal team for a chance of winning. While I am disappointed that Yuzu's developers settled it was probably a far more pragmatic decision for them. It's easy for us to say that they should have stood their ground because we aren't the ones that would have to secure the funds for legal expenses and we aren't the ones that would have to deal with potentially years of the psychological impact that comes with a lawsuit. Also imagine what would happen if they lost: not only would it ruin them financially but it would set a new legal precedent that would make it even easier for Nintendo to go after other emulators.

  • @ynvch
    @ynvch 3 місяці тому +6

    AMD and Intel are also enablers for emulation.

    • @dorfen6507
      @dorfen6507 3 місяці тому +9

      Yeah at this point, Nintendo should go after Intel for producing equipment capable on running their copyrighted software

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 3 місяці тому +2

      Don't give them ideas

  • @Tinfoilist
    @Tinfoilist 3 місяці тому +2

    I always buy every new Nintendo console and the games I like to play but now Nintendo has convinced me not to buy their upcoming console and to instead emulate the games they'll be releasing for it. There are limits to what corporate behaviors I'll support and this is my limit. Great job Nintendo.

  • @ak2f
    @ak2f 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely true, especially the "piracy is a service problem". That's just what piracy is all about, ether something is not available legally or is to expensive.

  • @Meshuggah333
    @Meshuggah333 3 місяці тому +2

    I love you man, never change.

  • @mahmodaltmimy256
    @mahmodaltmimy256 3 місяці тому +2

    I loved this video! Really good job.
    That company doesn't deserve any monay for how greedy they are.

  • @andreapaps
    @andreapaps 3 місяці тому +2

    This video goes hard... Also not going to give them another cent. Hahaha

  • @MetalMightGames
    @MetalMightGames 3 місяці тому

    Yes! Exactly! Thank you!

  • @elwen8525
    @elwen8525 3 місяці тому

    Love the little smash gasp that plays when he swears

  • @joaomartins2541
    @joaomartins2541 3 місяці тому +1

    1:22 yep. I'm in Brazil and a friend of mine told me just that.

  • @Cookies4Wookiees
    @Cookies4Wookiees 3 місяці тому +2

    The choice to play switch games on the PC came at the decision that Switch hardware sucks.

  • @pienipehmea3243
    @pienipehmea3243 3 місяці тому

    Yuzu's latest build is currently (3.7.) still available on Internet archive.

  • @JazzTheDogOfWar
    @JazzTheDogOfWar 3 місяці тому +2

    Well said brother

  • @nathanieldearinger1673
    @nathanieldearinger1673 3 місяці тому +1

    People pirating Nintendo products is Nintendo's fault. I love how I can buy games on Steam and play them anywhere I want. Nintendo creates its own problems, and Nintendo's anti-consumer practices will prevent me from buying from them.

  • @bunnybreaker
    @bunnybreaker 3 місяці тому +1

    Nintendo are living in the past, Open Source is the future, and emulation is a key part of game preservation.

  • @paulr7678
    @paulr7678 3 місяці тому

    Finally someone says it like it should be said, instead of beating around the bush. Thank you.

  • @ShadeAnris
    @ShadeAnris 3 місяці тому +3

    Such a banger of a video, very well stated

  • @hadesangelos
    @hadesangelos 3 місяці тому

    nice video, you really make it clear, i definitely agree

  • @ulkaffe
    @ulkaffe 3 місяці тому

    Thanks, you nailed it 🙌

  • @maikeru6158
    @maikeru6158 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m more upset about Citra dying than Yuzu tbh. We had 2 switch emulators, but only one 3ds emulatot

  • @Evil0tto
    @Evil0tto 3 місяці тому +7

    They can't stop it. Nintendo will always be ten steps behind emulation.

    • @MegaFinalRound
      @MegaFinalRound 3 місяці тому +1

      They can’t stop it, but they can attempt to slow it down.

  • @xellella4221
    @xellella4221 3 місяці тому

    "morally obtained ROMs" is gold omg

  • @lightningvini
    @lightningvini 3 місяці тому

    Piracy will NEVER be immoral.

  • @BartekBroniszewski
    @BartekBroniszewski 3 місяці тому

    I agree with you 50%, Yuzu took money for allowing users to play unreleased games and they distributed their own roms. Emulation is one thing and I would love them to continue their work but they are guilty as hell.

  • @erikolsson5068
    @erikolsson5068 3 місяці тому

    I swear to god, the Nintendo Switch 2 will just be a NUC with a screen running Yuzu

  • @soiltek2015
    @soiltek2015 3 місяці тому

    Awesome video Gardiner.

  • @optimalbonkerz
    @optimalbonkerz 3 місяці тому +1

    I wouldn't be forced to emulate nintedo games if their console would give me more than 20 frames, I hope nintedo gets sued for a lack of quality

  • @stephenedwards9341
    @stephenedwards9341 3 місяці тому +1

    Morals always gets in the way of having fun...🙄

  • @AppNasty
    @AppNasty 3 місяці тому +1

    They probably don’t care about retro emulation. Those games don’t make them much money.

  • @TheCodeAlwaysWins
    @TheCodeAlwaysWins 3 місяці тому

    Yes thank you. They've been up to this since the 80s with rentals in Japan. To this day the laws on video game rentals or even borrowing a game from your friend there are ridiculous.

  • @lauchka1ser648
    @lauchka1ser648 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the Video. I felt that.

  • @MansakeLabsOfficial
    @MansakeLabsOfficial 3 місяці тому +1

    On my Steam Deck, I use Nintendo's official Game Boy emulator to play Pokemon Red... in Citra.

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 3 місяці тому

    Who am I to tell Nintendo "no" when I can emulate their hardware?

  • @Clippedcontentenjoyer
    @Clippedcontentenjoyer 3 місяці тому

    Exactly!

  • @ben-3467
    @ben-3467 3 місяці тому

    didnt nintendo pirate an open source emulator on the wii? or was it only roms?

  • @golephish
    @golephish 3 місяці тому

    Nintendo is the Metallica of mp3s.

  • @tongoso
    @tongoso 3 місяці тому

    Fully , I repeat, fully support your decision and thoughts, thank you for sharing

  • @DuskyOtter
    @DuskyOtter 3 місяці тому

    This made my day

  • @Daniel_VolumeDown
    @Daniel_VolumeDown 3 місяці тому

    I am not sure, but wasn't there nintendo console that used emulator based on some emulator created by community?

  • @ZeroFanfare
    @ZeroFanfare 3 місяці тому

    More people need to keep talking about this. Drag Nintendo through the dirt, they deserve it. Thanks for the great video. I boycotted them when they sued Bowser, and put my Switch and all it’s games in the trash can outside my house. I encourage others to do the same, they have become a despicable company, hiding behind the smiles of their devs and mascots waiting patiently for your money.

  • @Furyspark
    @Furyspark 3 місяці тому +4

    It's refreshing to see someone not anonymous on the internet say something like this. Too many people just mindlessly lick the boots of their corporate overlords and parrot their propaganda when it comes to piracy, just so they can keep some unstable bridges standing (for now).

  • @procrastinatingnerd
    @procrastinatingnerd 3 місяці тому

    One plus side is now there are apparently 2 yuzu's that have replaced the original.

  • @xenogears0912
    @xenogears0912 3 місяці тому +1

    that's exactly what I was thinking ! We should speak with our wallets to show what we think of their capatalistic ideas . They don't give a damn about there customers and what they want .

    • @HomikaGaming
      @HomikaGaming 3 місяці тому

      I'm sure they do your just not their customer.

  • @LILAC_CHAOS
    @LILAC_CHAOS 3 місяці тому

    They literally got caught redistributing pirated roms on the Wii Shop, its kinda funny how they are so against it yet they use the software others make to create theirs.

  • @TToTheTrist
    @TToTheTrist 3 місяці тому

    Agree!

  • @mardenkarden
    @mardenkarden 3 місяці тому

    Why TF can't I like this video and your unyielding soul within, more than just once?!?!1 GAH!