We need to talk
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0:00 - Goodbye winter
1:57 - We can finally host!
5:32 - Barron is THE vibe
7:14 - Visit from childhood
12:23 - Best morning EVER
14:00 - We need to talk
17:35 - Disagree with love
Being able to say “I don’t believe the same religious things that you do, but I still respect and care about you. I don’t think you’re wrong, I don’t think I’m right, we’re just thinking different” is a skill that many people don’t have. It takes humility, kindness, grace, and confidence all of which I feel is greatly lacking in today’s society.
Yes! "AMEN"!
Amen
Wonderfully said!
I wish more people could listen, discuss and disagree with compassion. I feel as though people tend to always want to be in the right but the world is not painted in black and white, it is all the beautiful shades. Your lives and beliefs are the same, all beautiful shades.
sorry I hate to be a stick in the mud, but how do you accept someone’s beliefs when their belief alienates and even harms people. Not that you have to accept it to have a discussion but I just have no tolerance The discussion ends for me when the conversation changes from discussion to “you need to believe as I do or you will burn…. no more civil conversations after that. Purgatory is the primary example of a non-loving god and I can’t see eye to eye. I am sorry but when a hurtful message is being preached o matter how lovely it is dressed up I can’t find common ground. But like I said I am a stick in the mud.
I love that Barron says the dark green melly is not to share and a few clips later Elsa is already wearing it!
I wondered if anyone would notice ☺️
Same! 😂. Love it
Conversation with James, priceless. We loved that you shared it. Loved! The community you’re a part of, the love and respect you all have for one another (Linnea, Chris and Akela included) really comes through each time you share.
Good catch! LOL! That's Elsa for ya! LOL!😘😂
I am a Christian and I loved hearing James perspectives on the Bible. It was a great watch ❤
Everyone needs a James. What a gem!
Good one Elsa!
We need these conversations. Everyone is so divided when most of us want the same thing-to live and let live.
I am a Christian and I absolutely love this! To "disagree with love", to have conversations, and joust as you say, and walk away still in good relationship, that's what it's all about! Love that you shared this!
My mother is a devout Christian and I am an atheist. It’s taken a long time but now we have the most interesting, respectful conversations about it and it has enriched my life.
Atheists have more faith than Christians, for there is little to no evidence of how the earth and sun could be spontaneously created let alone life from nothing. Please look closer at evolution and you will find it has no fossil record and is mere imagination. Imagine your human body coming out from the dust spontaneously. Then imagine a God who loves you and created all things and sent His Son. Who fulfilled prophesies and died for your salvation.
The religious conversation at the end was a fantastic conversation. Respectful but deep philosophical conversations like this are so enlightening and enhance life. I loved it!
James is a wise man…a cultivated wisdom from a life well lived and educated, but a free thinker. We need more of this.
The conversation with James is beautiful. That's friendship.
indeed.
I found this really uplifting. I'm not Christian, but I almost cried at the part "who told you you are not perfect and worthy of love". What a beautiful interpretation. And what a great friendship.
Seeing you host your circle in your home is *everything* I love the community you guys have built!
Loved the scene where you discuss the Bible with James and his wife. I believe it is good to wrestle with the Bible as long as you go into the discussions trying to discern the truth. Great video and look forward to seeing all of the summer projects you will be doing.
As someone in the same boat as you, I really love and appreciate the respectful dialogue you were able to share ❤️
James came into your life at just the right time. He is a a great builder. He and his wife didn’t build your home for you, they built it with you and taught you along the way. He often gives you building materials as needed. The conversations you have with those two lovely humans are such great learning experiences. That we should all be fortunate enough to have a couple like that in our lives. Even better, grow to become a couple like that.
James and Doreen are 100% goals for sure!! I'd love to be a couple like that too.
Totally agree. They are lovely people.
Amen
mama link here🫶🏼growing up Baptist,going to church on Sunday morning,Sunday night, Wednesday night~ all I can remember the sermons were to keep yourself from going to hell...as an adult I realized denomination did not mean anything
it was our relationship with God ❤️after losing a baby boy and having two code blues and having a glimpse of heaven💫 I know now know,"doing unto others"
the golden rule, is what it's all about...our God is an awesome God.
This.
Just like you, just like so many others, I took that journey many years ago.
And yes, He is an awesome God who loves us!
Me as well as my mom, once you experience heaven and find out Jesus is real, that He loves us and is the way , it makes life easier having him as your best friend who's always there for you.
I feel that the old adage of don't talk about politics, religion, or money has caused us as a society to become unwilling to have civil conversations. We don't have to agree but let's be respetful and listen, you never know what you will learn. Great share, I enjoyed the give and take.
The reason you should not talk about politics and religion with people you love is because they both are belief systems. There is nothing you can say that will change the way I believe, and vice versa. When you discover that someone you love believes you are going to burn in hell, or that your political beliefs are inhuman.....well, your relationship is over pretty much.
Money does not fall into the same category. Asking others about their money is simply rude.
More of James please
@@James-re6co Not everyone feels that way about discussing politics and religion (and money). Some people struggle to have a relationship with someone who believes differently than they do. And that's okay.
Discussing and arguing are two very different things, of course. The purpose should not be to change minds but to learn more. I've found relationships that include the respectful discussion of differences can become the most edifying, insightful, and enlightening. I believe a beautiful bond is one formed when belief systems differ but friendship and care for one another blossoms regardless.
Thank you thank you thank you for including the part with James and your healthy discussion. James' interpretation was perfect.
I am a former Catholic. I went to Catholic grade school/high school whenever I asked the simplest question I was chastised and then I had friends sexually assaulted by clergy. I find God in nature and that is so freeing.❤
Being sexyally assaulted by clergy has nothing to do with God.
This is gold, the world needs more of this content.
What a wonderful friendship. I am truly saddened by lost art of conversation these days. Thank you for sharing. ❤
I love this. “To hide his tiny balls” was hilarious and spot on. And hurrah to James for laughing! But really, it’s so amazing to have good friends with different opinions, and that you respect each other enough to have these conversations. This was awesome to watch.
Great job! This was not food for thought, it was a buffet. You and Barron are so special. Thanks for sharing.
Love this, our pleasure!
Agreed. And you said it perfectly. I kept thinking, 'this is so interesting.'
Amazing. Fireside chats with James. How fortunate you are to have this man in your life.
Your conversation with James was absolutely fascinating! Thanks for including it in the video ❤
I'm starving for this kind of conversations. Back in university I had roommates from many different faiths and beliefs, we would sit at the dining room table (cause there was no living room in the student house we were in) and talk about topics just like this. We would literally sometimes even get to shouting but it was always with a kindness behind it and never an intent to diminish the other but rather discuss and get the other's perspective. It is only possible to do this with certain kinds of people unfortunately.
Sammie, it's great that you're starving for that kind of conversation. Best solution for that - join a Bible study. They're great.
@@Judy-fi7ce that's not multiple perspective it's one.
Religion is design for control.
Spirituality is the freedom. That's my understanding so far.
More conversations with James.
.@Beautyaddixion - Every perspective is just one. When we've exhausted enough perspectives, it's plain to see.
I am very fortunate to have a friend that is a catholic theologian, it really helps to talk with a theologian who is well versed in talking with people who may not understand the faith. I was some-what hurt by religious teachings and rejected them completely. But what I understood Christianity to be now, is very different than then. Christianity is amazing(if it is true). The woman coming from the side, means she is Adam’s equal and companion, and being last of creation is the pinnacle of creation(catholic 😀) .
Just what I needed, a round table talk. Seriously
Glad to have you here!
Buenos días, hola, la Fé en la creencia de Dios es a veces un laberinto de respuestas sin contestar, en mi caso creo en él Dios de la Verdad y de la justicia, siempre he creído en su existencia.
Durante 41 años de la vida, la experiencia acumulada fué enriquecedora para mi espíritu, hoy, después de 20 años, siento que él siempre está muy cerca, e intento no cometer errores que perjudiquen a terceras personas, siempre sigo el lema " Hoy por tí y mañana por los demás " Sin pedir en cambio, creo en los seres humanos, aunque a veces los pasos que doy en el camino no logro lo que en verdad quiero, pero, siempre camino desde el amor a Dios.
Nadie es perfecto, y aunque el no tener una vida como los demás, y poder disfrutar como casi todos, sigo tranquilo, pero " No doy a basto " Las horas no llegan para poder ser, sin más, saludos desde Puenteareas.
Decía aquel Rock ; el viejo sendero lleno de árboles, secos y sin talar, y agua entre ellos manaba, solo el arriero en su carreta viajera mostraba,el millón de acres sin polvo, Yeah, Yeah. Saludos amigos
I been following for a years love all the changes . ❤ you guys are amazing . I look forward to all your v-blogs
Thanks for watching!!
Your neighbors are the best thing ever. They have truly blessed your lives. James and Doreen are the best part of life. That is priceless. Thank you for sharing them with us.
Your little talk reflects the way a lot of people think. You keep on doing you.
Elsa these are the exact same feelings ive been having as im beginning to read the Bible for the first time (to have deeper understanding for all people) and I have not found people online who are bringing up this topic in a civil conversation, beautiful thank you!
I wish more people could sit down like this and have conversations of all kinds, with respect and understanding, without judgement. The world would certainly be a better place.
Thank you so much for sharing this conversation!! So enlightening to be a fly on the wall. I hope you do more of this, it's a fascinating exchange. Your love and respect for each other is so obvious and it's a beautiful interaction.
Absolutely loved that bible talk with James! It’s so fascinating to hear him explain the stories in his way. What I would do to have a conversation with him and Doreen, they seem like wonderful people and mentors!
@sarahjane993 my thoughts exactly!
Great conversion, super appreciated you and James sharing the discussion. We need more of this ❤
I love this!!! You’re so right, everyone is so sensitive these days and I really enjoyed your opinion on this issue! Being able to talk, disagree, and learn and leave still friends is something so important for human connection. I’m convinced I want to read The Message with you and go on this journey with you at the same time!
I want to hear more of James' preaching! I really enjoyed his interpretation of the Adam and Eve story. Thank you for sharing that❤
Much respect and love for all four of you having such an open conversation. All of you being yourself and letting kindness shine out. Cheers from Michigan.
I really enjoy watching every part of your journey Elsa but the discussion with James really drew me in. It reminded me of our gatherings in our younger years where we discussed all kinds of ideas and disagreed sometimes but all remained friends. And still remain friends some 50 years later. That would be what I wish for you and Barron. A long, interesting , thought provoking journey among friends. ❤
I love that you put in the discussion with James about the Bible. This is how ideas and beliefs should be discussed everywhere. Everyone is so divided and not wanting to listen to each other, it makes me sad.
Too bad y'all are so busy. It would make a good podcast 😁
It’s unfortunate what happened to you. However, I wouldn’t lump ALL Clergy in the sand category. There are Good & Bad In All and Everything. I don’t condemn and lump everyone with the same standards.. which is truly unfair to those who are good..
Loved, loved, loved this week’s vid. Good stuff!
That discussion was beautiful, both the discussion itself, the setting and the people involved. Great to have you two in Colorado now.
I loved that conversation! Thank you!
I absolutely LOVE how you have questioned religion, how you seek to understand others views***and what life experiences brought them there*** Such a great video, such great minds, openness, and independent thought! Also growing up near KC with a similar cultural background with religion I really appreciate you putting this out there and the care and thought in your words. You are my person!
Absolutely agree to the life experiences part too.
i really appreciate James' perspective and interpretation and would love to see more of this
LOVED this video and the conversation with James!!!! Would love to see/hear more!
Loved the discussion. Thanks for sharing it!
Elsa, Keep reading, keep taking notes. And I encourage you to talk to James and others in your life about it.
Your conversation left me wanting more! Great video!
Yes more Please❤
Amazing video Elsa! Thank you for being so brave. ❤️
Omg looooove this, open conversation! We need more of this!!!
love this grown ups talking again thank you.
Totally enjoyed this video. Thanks
Love your frownie patch! They work so well!
One of my favorite videos so far you posted. Thank you for some honest dialogue and open conversation about “life”. All of it, so interesting to hear.Thank you.
I'm atheist and look on those types of conversations with patience, but also with similar feelings as if listening to a child's fairy tale. Religion around the world has fostered peace, structure, violence, hope, despair, self loathing, racism and war. Christianity, I was brought up to believe, should lead to forgiveness and love. Instead, it seems to reward judgement, exclusion and guilt. Why can't we all do the right thing just because we are working to better each other and support communities, building success, love and strength. Why do we need to look for a savior to return (waiting for thousands of years) just to find a type of heaven, when we could create that here and now without being guilted into it. This universe is too vast and amazing to think that something as limiting as a single God being would be so concerned with us and our minor sins. Gods were the creation of men's minds to explain how nature worked and structured rules so we could function as communities to survive. We know much more through science now. Anyway, I know people tend to need something to help steer them in their philosophies, to provide the comfort of thought that there must be more after this mortal existence. I just don't understand why they feel the need to be hypocrites, judge others and doubt the spirituality of those who may not pray to the same deity as themselves. Peace.
All Christians are sinners saved by Grace. None are perfect. The problem is when Christians look down on others as if they are somehow better. The religions have been swayed by Men and most don't follow what the Bible says to do.
Exactly....I would read your book...if you had one.😊
I have similar feelings.
For your own good, repent..
That was well said!!!!!
I'm extremely impressed by not only your intelligence, but your insight. One can be spiritual without being religious, and to be confined as you've said to the hypocrisy of specific concepts is not only a tragedy but it has led to the dismay of world's conditions.
I would love to hear more of this type of talking. To have an open conversation about the bible without to shadow of religion. That was so fun.
Yes please!❤
Love the conversation. So interesting. Thanks for inviting us. Take care.
A really replenishing video, thank you x
I loved this. I’d watch more discussions. I knew there was true Christianity in those 2. James has a real air about him. Strong and peaceful. ❤
Can you guys talk Bible more often? I love hearing the conversation. It is so respectful and refreshing. I love you guys and keep up the wonderful work!! ❤❤❤❤
Loved this.
I love that you are able to have these conversations!
Great video! Thank you.
Love from Ohio! You guys are an inspiration! ❤
I really vibe with all the music you put into your videos!!
Thx for sharing your stimulating conversation...you are a very wise young couple and you bring such great gifts to this world.
i love this , i love the banter between you all on the subject, definitely got me interested! i agree everyone should talk about this, that and everything! i love you guys, great videos
I strive to explore my faith and not get too hung up on the details; I suspect that in the afterlife we'll all be surprised by the truth. May you find a faith system that gives you comfort and strength.
I loved your conversation! I love you guys!
I truly loved your interpretations !!! I loved that you shared and I also feel like I gained bounds of knowledge 🫶🏻
I would love to sit with all of you and have this same discussion. I think everyone needs a James in their circle….. wish I had one myself! Great video!❤
I loved this!!!! I wanted to hear James’ answer.❤
What a gorgeous ski area!! Glad everyone had a blast!!!
I liked the first 2/3's of this video. It's that content that I have tuned into with you guys since the beginning.
I absolutely agree with you. I’m not a Christian in any way but believe we should be able to talk about it.
Yes! We need to be able to communicate our differing ideas. And with love and respect!
I could listen to him for hours!
Such a fun and amazing discussion. I love this. Thanks for keeping it raw here🙏🏼🙌💛✨️
I loved the conversation at the end. Growing up Jewish, we studied the Bible (first testament) in Hebrew. And the translation varies a lot since we learnt how to translate it ourselves and we go to see all the different meanings in the words. So we didn’t read rib or curve or even fig leaf! We got to learn all the different forms of translation and learn all the meanings. If there’s a section you think sounds off I encourage you to look up the original Hebrew verse 😊 And enjoy! It’s a crazy book!
Now I’m craving a second channel of you four discussing the Bible together. ✌️❤️🙏
Yes!
Stunning video. Voice over sentiments are precious. You are definitely a writer.
"Definitely" she is.
Elsa, this was great! Thank you for sharing.
My spirit enjoyed this so much, with hearty laughter too. Thanks for the gift !
You’re blessed to have these wise mentors in your life, they can handle everything you throw at them. I loved your discussion.
So awesome you guys can have this dialogue. I’ve become much more serious in my faith in the last few years and try to be in the Bible daily at least a little. The rest of the video was great too! 😁
Thank you for this.
Loved this video. Thanks for all the beautiful bits. The discourse at the end was lovely, I appreciate you sharing it
When people tell you you are going to hell because you don't believe what they do, the fault is not likely within you but within them for being so narrow in their view of life. Just saying, it's a very big world and Christians aren't the only ones in it. Lots of paths to get to enlightenment.
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James is very wise! Keep seeking and learning, your heading in the right direction.
Have always loved watching your videos! Can't wait to see what you guys do next.
Your section with James and Doreen and disagreeing with love was one of my favorite segments. If you guys film anymore of your conversations, I think it would be a wonderful addition to your future videos.
I started watching your videos several years back, and this is by far is my favorite video of all of yours.
The speed at which I would eject someone from my home who condescended to return my hospitality with the threat of damnation. Good grief.
And they call themselves Christian…if so judgmental for sure.
To love them is to tell the truth. Once you die and find out, they were right, it is too late. There is a literal heaven and hell. God is real. Christ is real and died for your sins and mine. Their Christian friends were loving them by warning them of the danger
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I think there are two ways a person (who believes in the damnation of people who have sinned but don't accept Jesus Christ as their savior) can approach sharing that view with someone. Either out of malice or pride as a "woe is you" kind of scare tactic (obviously not okay)... or out of love. As in, I love you enough to tell you what I believe about heaven and hell and eternity because I would rather have you in heaven with me. It's called "the Good News" because it's supposed to be "good news" of salvation, and sometimes you have to hear the bad news to see why the good news is good. And as with any discussion about beliefs, you don't have to believe everything you hear.
@@cathywhitmore7958 what makes your religion the “correct” or “true” one when there are hundreds of other religions in the world that all believe that they are only “correct” or “true” one. Everyone goes to hell in somebody else’s religion.
And this is coming from someone who use to believe exactly the same that you do. Having removed myself from it, I feel incredibly guilty and remorseful I tried to shove it down anyone’s throat because it is not loving. It is rude. It is disingenuous. And honestly the marks of a bad friend.
It is not a religion! What I have is a living relationship with God through Jesus Christ who lives in me. It is relationship with God. THE SPIRIT OF GOD WHO RAISED JESUS CHRIST FROM THE GRAVE IS ALIVE AND LIVING IN ME! What makes it different from all other "religions" ...is these other religions serve dead "gods" Gods that don't exist, they are all dead. I serve a living God who rose alive from the dead. My God is the Creator of all that exist in the heavens and the earth. That Resurrection power that raised Christ from the dead, lives in me. The Living God lives in me and I walk and talk with Him. Repent of your sins, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, ask Him to come into your heart and you can knoq Him as I do, alive! Like I said all these other gods are dead Joseph Smith is dead, Muhammad is dead, Buddha is dead, Confucius is dead, but Jesus Christ is Alive forevermore! Dead people serve dead religions the people alive in Christ serve a living God
Your discussion was so refreshing. I have been on both sides, and all I can say is that my life is soooo much happier since I came back to God. A woman should respect her husband, but God also instructed man to love her so much he is willing to give his life for her. It really is a beautiful thing....imo. James is great! You guys are great for being so open minded!
I loved that conversation. Thanks so much for sharing it! ❤❤
Simply loved the talk. Community is the family we choose. All we need to do is listen. Really, really listen with curiosity, compassion, & an open heart.
Love from Florida
I'm at work trying to watch this!!!
Loved your conversation - great listening skills on both sides and I'm with you on all of this Elsa!
Very much enjoyed hearing both of your perspectives and interpretations. Hope you make more videos like this one. Thanks for sharing 😊