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  • @TylerG1994
    @TylerG1994 6 місяців тому +125

    I REMEMBER Jesse getting up to change the batteries and memory cards

    • @KennethMoyer-t3y
      @KennethMoyer-t3y 6 місяців тому +18

      I remember Ron McClean watching Jesse change batteries and later asking Jesse if he wanted to ask a question. This was back when Jesse almost never spoke.

    • @rodchallis8031
      @rodchallis8031 6 місяців тому +19

      I kinda miss those days. And the Purolator Truck.

    • @cryptocode88
      @cryptocode88 6 місяців тому +2

      I most definitely remember these times! …good times. You guys have came so far, it’s awesome

    • @Hockeyhobo89
      @Hockeyhobo89 6 місяців тому

      ⁠@@rodchallis8031the purolator days were the peak of this channel. I miss them. That’s my favourite studio they’ve had too.

    • @KevinJL
      @KevinJL 6 місяців тому

      I was just thinking about this lol

  • @MrKounty01
    @MrKounty01 6 місяців тому +28

    Thank you for breaking down the Campbell story. Every NHL fan needs to watch its a eye opener on just how garbage this league and its leadership is.

  • @deltagolavista1
    @deltagolavista1 6 місяців тому +17

    I think Tort got the two games because the owner came out and said he'll pay the fine. Bettman didn't like that statement and wanted to make sure Torts was fully punished. If the owner kept his mouth shut after the incident, it probably would have just been a fine.

  • @thumpyloudfoot864
    @thumpyloudfoot864 6 місяців тому +28

    The NHL isn't a league, its a Cartel...

  • @randallwillis5662
    @randallwillis5662 6 місяців тому +32

    To your point about gambling, how long before someone sues the NHL over losing a bet on a play where a ref went outside of the rule book?

    • @scottgorski7541
      @scottgorski7541 6 місяців тому +6

      I am not trying to defend anyone here, but this could be done for any sport. There are "bad calls" everywhere that could impact a game, so it will not happen.

    • @randallwillis5662
      @randallwillis5662 6 місяців тому

      I don't think you're wrong,@@scottgorski7541

    • @lakessbm
      @lakessbm 6 місяців тому +2

      Never. The refs recieve instructions on how to ruin the game to maximize bet profits .

    • @randallwillis5662
      @randallwillis5662 6 місяців тому

      @@richardwilliams9532 Insightful. Thanks

  • @30to50feralhoglunds
    @30to50feralhoglunds 6 місяців тому +87

    Wes Mcauley Main Character Award is the best bit idea you've had in years and you've had a lot of great bits

  • @beakfast6978
    @beakfast6978 6 місяців тому +38

    OMG WILL THEY FINALLY SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT TORTS?!

  • @jonanne87
    @jonanne87 6 місяців тому +5

    Hey Steve! In the hospital awaiting my second daughter. Will be born today March 12th, great day for a bday 😊

  • @TheDevilock666
    @TheDevilock666 6 місяців тому +13

    Torts should pull a WWE move and buy a seat behind the bench for both games. If they say anything he can show his ticket. He is a paying customer haha.

    • @dtown902
      @dtown902 6 місяців тому +3

      That's not how it works. He's not allowed in the rink. He could coach the game from his house with Zoom. There's no need to be inside the building.

  • @user-il8rc4md6n
    @user-il8rc4md6n 6 місяців тому +3

    To those saying teams like Florida get some of the most PIM’s and therefore don’t get preferential treatment from officials or front office:
    It’s not just straight PIMs that matter. Florida starts scrums with every team, there are probably a lot of offsetting PIMs and Florida just racks them up. Also could be 10 minute misconducts in these scrums that don’t actually impact the game very much. The important part is game management (when the penalties are called and for what) and the severity of supplemental discipline on dirty or intent to injure plays (Cousins on Gudbransson). Florida could have the most PIMs in the league and still get favourable game management calls and favourable decisions on supplemental discipline.

  • @RukaRadebe
    @RukaRadebe 6 місяців тому +6

    Marc Savard is actually the assistant coach of the Calgary Flames but the power play has been so bad this year, a lot of Flames fans wish he worked for the St Louis Blues 😅

  • @johnmccarty7876
    @johnmccarty7876 6 місяців тому +9

    The 2 game suspension was because he broke rule L0L - QQ: You shall not hurt the Ref's feewings. They are sensitive and above all judgment.

  • @Mr_Bedlam215
    @Mr_Bedlam215 6 місяців тому +6

    "SDP cards" ...oh, Steve... LMAO

  • @Starfire099
    @Starfire099 6 місяців тому +9

    I bet Torts got the 2 games because his owner paid the fine for him and they needed to do something to punish Torts that the owner couldn't cover for. The extra 25k was to punish the owner. At least, that's my opinion. I think if the Flyers owner kept his mouth shut until the punishment was issued, it would have been a fine only.

  • @stephaneleblanc-zr1cc
    @stephaneleblanc-zr1cc 6 місяців тому +15

    Free torts

  • @MrACassidy
    @MrACassidy 6 місяців тому +4

    Alex Burrows - Stephane Auger incident (and then Ron Macleans character assassination on HNIC) ?!?

  • @LolCobra
    @LolCobra 6 місяців тому +3

    Should have called the ep Wes side torty

  • @wilseph1
    @wilseph1 6 місяців тому +8

    It is rather hilarious how people continue to bet on sports, when it's clearly being manipulated. Keep letting the house win.

  • @yodapthd007
    @yodapthd007 6 місяців тому +6

    When will the Leafs get smart and hire all the family members of dudes who work at the NHL office?

  • @HighKage97
    @HighKage97 6 місяців тому +13

    Happy Retirement to Wes!

  • @doozey365
    @doozey365 6 місяців тому +3

    The refs have called the games the same way since ive been watching in '91. Penalty calls have to be as close as equal as possible. So if ur a chippy team, lets say Florida, u can take as many penalties you want and play as dirty as u want. Overall, its gonna balance out because of Florida getting extra penalties from the other team retaliating. The refs reward teams that take more penalties by ignoring more while giving them PPs because its their turn. Its maddening the refs call the game like this. When Detroit gets 3 or 4 calls, and you see a bunch of penalties being ignored because they have already had too many power plays, its maddening.

  • @christopherboyd3311
    @christopherboyd3311 6 місяців тому +17

    I'm so glad that Lidstrom was in his prime and Datsyuk and Zetterberg came along in time to save Steve Yzerman from having to go through what Sid is going through. He was diminished after his knee surgery but they kept the winning seasons for about 10 years, 3 Conference Finals and 1-1 in the Stanely Cup Finals after that.

    • @hunterglasier2066
      @hunterglasier2066 6 місяців тому

      Yzerman was not on those Red Wings teams that played the Penguins back to back in the cup if that’s what ur referring to

    • @christopherboyd3311
      @christopherboyd3311 6 місяців тому +3

      @hunterglasier2066 no he retired after 2006. But they bowed out early in the playoffs both times after the lockout, but I think they won the Prez Trophy in 2006. But he was diminished. Shanny was not the player he was. Federov had left. Datsyuk and Zetterberg were on the rise. Saved Stevie from maybe going thru it.

  • @Chillin24Seven
    @Chillin24Seven 6 місяців тому +8

    The problem with Crosby staying in Pittsburgh thru a rebuild is he’s still too good for them to finish last. They’d get a ton an assets and then finish last and be back in the playoffs in 3-5 years.

  • @icecoldpolitics8890
    @icecoldpolitics8890 6 місяців тому +9

    John Hynes mentioned he only pulled fleury when the Preds had zero PK players on the ice. This wasn’t a spur decision they planned that play out so hard.

  • @kurtwpg
    @kurtwpg 6 місяців тому +5

    Refs punished the Jets for about 2 years after Evander Kane flicked the puck at one of them.

  • @milkers7919
    @milkers7919 6 місяців тому +10

    The Blues assistant coaches are Mike Babcock Jr., Mike Weber, and Steve Ott

  • @people3865
    @people3865 6 місяців тому +4

    Everyone forgets, pens cannot rebuild until the year after next. If the pick slides, it is no longer protected

  • @redheads604
    @redheads604 6 місяців тому +3

    Stephan Auger and Burrows incident, plus Ron Mclean defending Auger and subsequent insincere non apology to Burrows.

    • @MrACassidy
      @MrACassidy 6 місяців тому

      lol we had almost word for word the same comment 3 mins apart

    • @tronnoadam
      @tronnoadam 6 місяців тому

      Ron always defends refs because he is one in his off-time.

  • @ScreaminT81
    @ScreaminT81 6 місяців тому +6

    Torts is a gawddamn legend. The league is a joke and why ppl support it is insanity

  • @dtown902
    @dtown902 6 місяців тому +2

    Vancouver Canucks fans don't need more ammo to complain about corrupt refs and NHL executives fixing games. Colin Campbell had a son aka Gregory Campbell on the Boston Bruins in 2011. There is now a paper trail to him fixing games. The Bruins should have their 2011 Cup rescinded.

  • @thedankswordsmantm
    @thedankswordsmantm 6 місяців тому +4

    Is Adam high? Colorado won the President's trophy and the Cup with Borque. And, (I had to look this second part up) the year previous when Borque joined the Avs at the deadline, they were the 3 seed in the west.

    • @Anthony-GoAvsGo
      @Anthony-GoAvsGo 6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I heard him say they were 7th seed and i was like Adam knows nothing of Avs history

  • @jamesbarels469
    @jamesbarels469 6 місяців тому +6

    And Jesse and Steve walked in the snow, uphill, both ways to the old studio.

    • @rodchallis8031
      @rodchallis8031 6 місяців тому +4

      which wasn't as bad as it sounds because that gave them a chance to check their trap lines. Pelts and the Hudson Bay Company were instrumental in the SDPN early going.

  • @ducksfan_1149
    @ducksfan_1149 6 місяців тому +7

    might be the best SDP ever tbh

  • @alkaline1100
    @alkaline1100 6 місяців тому +2

    Wes is a problem for this league. The NHL needs to deal with it.

  • @silgarf
    @silgarf 6 місяців тому +2

    Jesse saying dubas needs a pass bc hes only been there since june but saying brad had a bad trade deadline makes no sense how does 1 get a pass and other doesent lol

  • @FoxyJane88
    @FoxyJane88 6 місяців тому +2

    “No one’s job is safe” EXCEPT the ‘Core 4’ when they play like crap

  • @KennethMoyer-t3y
    @KennethMoyer-t3y 6 місяців тому +6

    Adam's left arm made a full extension return!!!!
    OMG the " shut up, I'm talking " is truly back. Dang!

  • @ozma6918
    @ozma6918 6 місяців тому +1

    1:39:01 STEVE, MY MAN!! Go Voltigeurs!! :D Drummondville being my hometown, their president's cup in 2009 is what got me into hockey!! I got their jersey in hopes of having former alumni of their team that currently play in the NHL to sign it sometime, with HUGE bonus points for that 2009 team! (Mike Hoffman, Dmitry Kulikov, looking at you guys! I'd even forego my hate of the Flyers if I could get Couturier's autograph on my Voltigeurs jersey!!)

  • @ERGOD-GOBLUES
    @ERGOD-GOBLUES 6 місяців тому +2

    Episode ruled. The Campbell emails to the head ref are crazy!

  • @danieldosso2455
    @danieldosso2455 6 місяців тому +3

    most of the abuse the refs take is deserved... c'mon steve

  • @adamparkinson3921
    @adamparkinson3921 6 місяців тому +3

    Simon Benoit and Liljgren can be in the lineup. You just take out Brodie instead.

  • @stevediamond1747
    @stevediamond1747 6 місяців тому +4

    Mats wasnt chasing the cup in Van, we offered him the most money lol

  • @garyk1836
    @garyk1836 6 місяців тому +4

    You would think that with gambling being a major sponsor in the NHL that bias reffing would be less an issue.

    • @sebastiencarrieres8825
      @sebastiencarrieres8825 6 місяців тому

      If you put on your conspiracy theorist hat, you could say it's a feature, not a bug.

  • @johnbuisman7464
    @johnbuisman7464 6 місяців тому +3

    I love that Adam only mentions distinctions when he feels he shouldn't have to

  • @LSLS5555
    @LSLS5555 6 місяців тому +1

    Cooper got kicked out of a game a year or so ago by Wes for saying his call was awful. You can read the lips, nothing personal at all. And for the rest of the year and into the next, Wes called a very disporoportional calls against tampa compared to all other teams. Guy is such an ego maniac.

  • @IceJoust
    @IceJoust 6 місяців тому +1

    As a new hockey fan absolutely wild to hear this ref information. I knew about the evens stephens penalties but that is truly awful. Keep up the award!

  • @PrincessAngelaXOXO
    @PrincessAngelaXOXO 6 місяців тому +1

    Torts is a gawddamn legend. The league is a joke and why ppl support it is insanity.

  • @chrisdranfield3828
    @chrisdranfield3828 6 місяців тому +1

    The officials in the NHL are not made available because they don’t want one getting fed up and saying the reason I ignored 5 blatant penalties from team A is because Team B had the last 3 power plays so the next one had to go to the other team.
    Anyone who watches hockey knows this is how they officiate most games.
    The only exception is if a team dare call out the officials you can expect they will come up on the short end next game.
    Just watch Vancouver Minnesota the game after they criticized the officiating suddenly they found themselves with 4 lengthy 5 on 3s

  • @2jackdolan
    @2jackdolan 6 місяців тому +1

    Going from Refs and why people bet on games into the BetMGM segment killed me 😂 I hope that was on purpose

  • @alexadkins3380
    @alexadkins3380 6 місяців тому +1

    As Steve says LOLS, Commrade Dangle goin into minutia of Capitalisim. After the few minute goverment talk points. Its a goofy world gents, great pod boys. What a goofy situation.

  • @lakessbm
    @lakessbm 6 місяців тому +1

    Why do refs need to be a union? Oh my what a joke league

  • @ClayBall-im1km
    @ClayBall-im1km 6 місяців тому +1

    The "stfu" comment ( spoken by the ref ) happens a lot.
    Dont kid yourself. The refs have the last word.
    I watched the first five minutes of the Flyers/Bolts game.
    Torts was completely in the right.
    Some pretty shoddy calls.

  • @PoopdeckPatty
    @PoopdeckPatty 6 місяців тому

    It’s st Patrick’s day, of course you do green on green, with a little bit of white, what are you talking about Jesse….

  • @waryaking
    @waryaking 6 місяців тому +1

    Tortorella is the José Mourinho of Hockey

  • @fitzhuu
    @fitzhuu 6 місяців тому +3

    Steve's expression at the very beginning is memeable

    • @fitzhuu
      @fitzhuu 6 місяців тому

      also, Comrade Dangle, LFG. 🔴

  • @frednunziata5
    @frednunziata5 6 місяців тому +1

    legitimately after watching the refs segment and Colin Campbell talk....... wtf do we still watch hockey?

  • @Hockeyhobo89
    @Hockeyhobo89 6 місяців тому +1

    I have never bet but I would be like Steve’s friend. Always bet against the Leafs because you’re either happy or sad but at least you made some money.

  • @lakessbm
    @lakessbm 6 місяців тому +1

    It's mandated from the top.

  • @jeffchau89
    @jeffchau89 6 місяців тому

    Don't forget that Dubas isnt even the GM, but the PRESIDENT OF HOCKEY OPS, for Pittsburgh

  • @craigvatcher42
    @craigvatcher42 6 місяців тому

    Moose Jaw Warriors
    Guelph Storm
    Chicoutimi Saguneens (Felix Potvin's junior team!)

  • @Peacy27
    @Peacy27 6 місяців тому

    You didn't ask but, favorite team in the
    Q : Rouyn-Noranda (kind from there)
    O : SOO (loved the city)
    W : Kamloops (lived there)

  • @clippedwings0
    @clippedwings0 6 місяців тому

    My god, when they were talking about Sid's future, I had totally forgotten that LeBron won a championship with the Lakers. Had to look it up...
    2020. Pandemic-related hole in my memory.

  • @Greysox11ljs
    @Greysox11ljs 6 місяців тому

    Giants baby surprised steve can handle calling them his team, Lucic, Gallagher, Kane, kulak, Cody Franson! Haha

  • @tronnoadam
    @tronnoadam 6 місяців тому

    The level of irrational hate Adam and Steve have towards Liljegren continues to be baffling and hilarious. Steve with Lyubushkin and Liljegren is literally the Gordon Ramsay meme.

  • @KS-xk2so
    @KS-xk2so 6 місяців тому

    Dubas is still way on the young end for GM's in the NHL. There are 32 in the league. I believe 27 of them are 50 or older. The other 5 consist of two ex-pros in their late 40s, a guy who's 49, and then two dudes named Kyle in their 30s lol.... thats why he's still got that young vibe.

  • @nighth00d95
    @nighth00d95 6 місяців тому

    Complaining about "the refs" is just screaming into the void. If we knew the names of the officials, there would have to be accountability.... in theory.

  • @blakeheller9863
    @blakeheller9863 6 місяців тому

    For a WHL team you should pick the Medicine Hat Tigers. They have a guy going in the top 5 this year and another late 1st rounder. They also have Gavin Mckenna, bedard’s cousin, who will be the first overall pick in two years

  • @turkeykaiser
    @turkeykaiser 6 місяців тому

    Torts is such a red-faced, mewling infant. He'll complain all day about other teams talking to the refs, but he's entitled to his time apparently. Nice of the NHL to give everybody a break.

  • @kyshreckengost
    @kyshreckengost 6 місяців тому

    🐧 I believe Crosby and Geno are what the penguins weren't able to have with Lemiuex and Jagr. I also believe they both want Letang to stay even though he should probably retire. I am thankful for the careers of Sid and Geno, they are Pittsburgh icons, and will always be.

  • @bustywaifus
    @bustywaifus 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for calling out the Campbell hockey mafia.

  • @williambooth6701
    @williambooth6701 6 місяців тому

    Steve - Cape Breton Eagles (no longer Screaming)... Former great goalie... Marc Andre Fleury!

  • @morris1345
    @morris1345 6 місяців тому

    Starting to wonder if Kyle Dubas comes up in Adam's therapy appointments. 🤣 Adam sounds like a desperately bitter ex girlfriend

  • @MusicSim8
    @MusicSim8 6 місяців тому

    With regard to the offside conversation, what everyone keeps forgetting is that there sometimes there is an actual judgement call that sometimes needs to be made with it. Two in fact.
    First, does the attacking player have control of the puck when he's bringing it over the line, which is something that almost no amount of computer tech will help with, that has to be called by the linesmen on the ice since "control" is subjective.
    Second, and the thing that started this whole debacle, did the defending team pass the puck back into their own zone. Why does everyone keep forgetting that the linesmen didn't make the call that Duchene was offside because in his view the Nashville Predators passed the puck back into their zone. (They didn't for the record, but that's what led to Duchene being SO far offside. Because of the rule that allows for a player to be offside if the puck is played back into the zone deliberately by the defending team)
    So best solution, let the refs call it on the ice, do away with video review, and if it's a missed call it's a missed call. Let me cheer for my team to score at all times, instead of having to hedge my fandom if I see a play that looks like it MIGHT be offside. There's no worse whiplash than having to, 9-10 times a game, hope that the enemy D clears the puck from their zone so that the zone entry can be cleaner. It's obnoxious.

  • @TheElabon
    @TheElabon 6 місяців тому

    Changing the time back is the weirdest thing to ever be done by humanity. Our "Standard Time" was what 4 months this year? November to the end of February basically. Just make us stay on the daylight time.

  • @NewDadShoes
    @NewDadShoes 6 місяців тому

    To the offside discussion, just make the rule state if three or four defenders have entered the defensive zone, the play can no longer be offside. Or add a timer... Puck in the zone for 7-10?? Seconds? That entry can no longer be challenged for offside.

  • @funstarr
    @funstarr 6 місяців тому

    Colin Miller is a RHD, under 2 million bucks, shoots right and is good enough to make the lineup. The fact that the leafs couldn't make this trade is baffling.

  • @starkiller34
    @starkiller34 6 місяців тому

    I don't see any positive way out of this for Pittsburgh. Unless the guys themselves come to the realization that the party's over and the best way they can help the team they love so much is in asset value. That goes for the original 3, I think Karlsson might still have a negative value deal. But since it's not just about Pittsburgh for them, it's also about playing together, I don't fancy that happening. Mid tier trades and some depth signings in the off-season while they waste a year?

  • @ShawnBlaque
    @ShawnBlaque 6 місяців тому

    Colin Campbell writes at a 7th grade level while trying to rig the game and is still employed. Amazing job NHL! What a joke.

  • @Erdymus
    @Erdymus 6 місяців тому

    I agree with 99% of all the stuff you say about refs, but I somehow dislike Tortorella EVEN MORE, so I'm not sure how to feel about this 😅

  • @00DLR00
    @00DLR00 6 місяців тому

    Guys...Minten hasn't been in Kamloops since November. He only played seven games with them this season.

  • @pccougar895
    @pccougar895 6 місяців тому

    Current referee e-mails would be worth $Billions now with NHL embracing Gambling.

  • @silgarf
    @silgarf 6 місяців тому

    I agree with everything u said about refs but the following season after denis widemen the calls weren't as bad as u made it seem the calls were 277 against calgary and 258 powerplays for Calgary only a 19 call difference

  • @NattyLegend1
    @NattyLegend1 6 місяців тому

    If you dont make the refs out of bounds, you'll get the players crowding the refs after every important call in a year or two. It will become part of the game and part of how the best teams win, just like violent crosschecks during the playoffs that don't get called ever.

  • @blainerichardson8154
    @blainerichardson8154 6 місяців тому

    I love the part when Steve says "and people actually bet on this sport" while they talk about the corruption in officiating, then Adam segues into Bet mgm big story lol

  • @DAVIDLEGGETT777
    @DAVIDLEGGETT777 6 місяців тому

    I was right from a while ago. Adam doesn't even watch the games 😂👎🏼he's a billionaire who should get a new job...

  • @strokes8771
    @strokes8771 6 місяців тому

    Why would Sid waste his time in Montreal. I get that it’s his childhood team and they got some young players but they aren’t that much better off than Pittsburgh in terms competitiveness next season.

  • @RichardCalder67
    @RichardCalder67 6 місяців тому

    I am just like Adam and his friend. I won't bet against the Leafs no matter how obvious the bet might be. That being said I haven't bet at all this year because the NHL is a joke, and I'd rather the money just sit in my SI account than waste it.

  • @Pens724
    @Pens724 6 місяців тому

    Torts is whiny and deserves what he got. He can be upset at the calls, he can yell, etc., but it's another thing for him to keep complaining. He'd be the first in line to call any other coach, or player, a whining baby if they'd had done exactly what he did.

  • @Gem____F8
    @Gem____F8 6 місяців тому

    Might just be me but i think its pretty disgusting that the bottom 5 teams are pretty much the exact same as last year lol , besides the Sharks maybe I think any kid drafted by these teams is just gonna be wasted or it’ll sink another high pick in there lineup
    Like if either the Hawks , Ducks or Jackets get Celebrini what are they gonna do push him to the wing ?? Kids a natural centre who needs the play to run through him Or push one of the first line centres they drafted top 3 last year down the line up or to the wing ??

  • @davechrenek8220
    @davechrenek8220 6 місяців тому

    Yea torts! I don’t get how the reff bs is like this it’s so dumb… some many things wrong with this league… enjoyed the talk on that. And how do some of these guys have their damn jobs,.. like wtf

  • @aksis2133
    @aksis2133 6 місяців тому +4

    There it is I was waiting 😂

  • @zachweeks299
    @zachweeks299 6 місяців тому

    As a Flyers fan the joke is on the refs. OUR POWER PLAY SUCKS!

  • @johnnycoladrums
    @johnnycoladrums 6 місяців тому

    Does anyone know if a ref has ever lost his job? Is that a risk for them, or are they like Supreme Court judges, appointed until they decide to retire?

  • @thedankswordsmantm
    @thedankswordsmantm 6 місяців тому

    As an Avs fan, I died laughing when we convinced NJ to give us assets for Graves. And I died even harder when Dubas gave him term and money hahaha.

  • @dan_tegtmeier94
    @dan_tegtmeier94 6 місяців тому

    I absolutely love you guys, but you got that Saad conversation all wrong. Kane is still salty about that Panarin trade to this day. Stan Bowman single handedly decided to nuke that dynasty.

  • @shinomourikenji
    @shinomourikenji 6 місяців тому

    Man if I had $0.87 for every time they bring up Sid playing for a different team I’d have quite a bit of money.

  • @rickyma3189
    @rickyma3189 6 місяців тому

    White pants? No you do thr old school brown pants, but who cares what pants they were. Fans will be buying the jersey only.

  • @M.R.1525
    @M.R.1525 6 місяців тому

    Crosby came in and was the corner stone of building the Penguins that went on to win three cups. Why can't his legacy also be that he departed on time to bring much needed and valuable assets to his beloved team that might go on to be great again? Not to mention that the end of his career could be as productive and glorious next to his buddy in Colorado. Help his beloved team on the way in and on the way out. Just a thought.

  • @jonw7166
    @jonw7166 6 місяців тому +1

    Dont forget Colin Campbell downplayed the Matt Cooke hit on Savard and called for no suspension for Cooke.

  • @Flavetheson
    @Flavetheson 6 місяців тому

    Steve you don't have to tell us to listen before everything you say. It's a podcast we're listening.