Seasons 4 and 5 had Julie Plec as a showrunner when Seasons 1-3 were run mostly by Michael Narducci who wrote some of the best TVD episodes. Take that as you will. 😂😂
That's not true, Narducci was the showrunner for seasons 3+4 and was an executive producer seasons 2-4. Julie is the one that created the show in the first place.
I find it especially sad that Phoebe Tonkin and Claire Holt didnt have more scenes together because they spent their whole teenage years playing best friends on H2O just add water. They have amazing chemistry and such a long history of acting together. Truly couldve had some great scenes with them and their characters
Yeah it’s really funny watching their first scenes together and how dismissive and even a little rude Rebecca is to Haley knowing the two actresses are bffs. It kinda reminds me of when Arya and Sansa reunite in GOT. You know the characters haven’t seen each other in years but the two actresses are literally inseparable
Idk if you’ve forgotten but Klaus mentions meeting Shakespeare but literally ends up being the reason why Shakespeare is famous so literally Klaus is the real “Shakespeare”. Or really would should be saying Shakespeare is like Klaus. So it’s a Klaus play not Shakespeare. 😄 lol
@@divinelangene6813 Yeah, same. While definitely not a masterpiece, The Originals is still a surprisingly complex, thrilling and overall well written TV show despite the mountain of flaws it carries. Literally, this what TVD should’ve been.. In every way possible.
The fact that vampire diaries went down hell after the departure of the originals says so much about how much character they bring ! Every plot that followed was a catastrophe ! And the originals was a show about adults which was perfect since we've all grown up from the teenage drama that was happening on tvd
@@thecuantocabronshow5072 tbh I kept watching religiously until Klaus left ! That's when I started watching just because I was afraid to miss something!
Have I've seen The Vampire Diaries? No. Have I've seen The Originals? No. Will I watch a three hours long essay about The Originals just because is Friendly Space Ninja? Absolutely.
If this cast was in an HBO's version of the originals with HBO writing and budget, I am more than confident that it would have been considered one of the greatest ever tv shows
Joseph Morgan as Klaus Mikaelson is one of the greatest vampire characters of all time and his monologues is some of the best ever. The scene where he gives his enemies a chance to pick up the coin to be spared has to be one of the most badass scenes in T.V. history.
HE REALLY embodies the 'eternal immortal' that vampires *should* be, or that we've come to expect in fiction. He's suave, rich, and domineering - a true foe, a true predator. He can blend into high society, or paint the streets with blood like the viking he is. And he does it all with panache. Joseph Morgan was the perfect casting choice, and I love that the Original family was such a hit that they got an excellent spinoff.
I think the greatest thing about Klaus and haley's relationship is it subverts your usual romance inspired stories and expectations, they know they don't work together but try their best to be good co parents and respect each other as such, most stories would've shoved them together regardless if they worked or not
Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies were absolutely iconic in both The Originals and The Vampire Diaries. I'm genuinely frustrated they were never considered for major awards. Their performances often overshadowed their co-stars because they were JUST. THAT. GOOD.
@@bodigames Why - she decided she didn't want to be in it, but she had to oblige her contract and so she was forced into going to the studio part time. Her inability to commit to the series had a direct impact on the quality of the show and it was clear she didn't give it her all when she was there.
@@noonyakaleka2098talk your talk....Rebekah who?!?? Hahaha not gonna lie, though the character had valid gripes against Klaus. I did not care about it as much due to her acting. There was way more emotion that could have been shown. I should be walking away with fuck Klaus. Not, awe well....she will be fine. Which how I walked away from most of her scenes, and that's because of how the actress played her.
Agreed!!! Joseph Morgan should have won an award for Best Villain on TV. Daniel Gillies, made a great antihero. Their brotherhood was and still is so iconic, I don't think any Villian family could ever compare in the future.
Yeah and honestly the reason I find it entertaining is because of the fact that they are the originals!!! Like these are the first ever vampires and the way they could of gone and explored more of that ❤❤❤❤❤
No lie, this scene with Rebecca and Klaus started my diet and fitness regimen! I loved it so much, I kept watching it over and over, and it made me cry real feelz tears each time. Crying hard makes me lose my appetite, and back then, I spent a lot of time eating. Since i wasn't eating, I got bored and started exercising 😅
@@gallarinas I know, I thought of it later and remembered it wasn't spelled "ordinarily" 😅 But, I also think the Nordic spelling is kinda weird, in Spanish it looks so wrong to me 🤣
I will forever stick to the opinion that the original is just an overall better show then the vampire diaries. I absolutely love the mikaelsons family and I think that they are just much more charismatic and interesting characters then all other tvd characters. Plus I loved how the show was heavily focused on the family and the family relationships. Personally I found it to be much more compelling then never ending romances in tvd.
I've never seen the vampire diaries but I watched the originals start to finish and I loved it. I watched the video Dylan made on vampire diaries and I don't think I would like it.
I agree. The Originals might be a little inconsistent in terms of plot and not always make the right choices for the direction of the show, but it still was such a good show on it's own and one of the best executions of a spinoff I've seen so far. I much preferred the romance taking kind of a background role and them focusing on family conflict. I preferred how Elijah and Klaus explored brotherhood compared to Damon and Stefan. Underrated but Klaus and Hayley's dynamic as coparents was really interesting. Plus witches were way more interesting in this show and you got to really see their full potential.
I can't help but think to myself "He's going to be so disappointed once he starts Legacies" The Originals was truly one of a kind and no character will ever top Klaus in that universe....
@@happygucci5094 I'm still salty they canceled it along with almost every other show they had on the network despite it being a let down. it's hard to say goodbye to that universe in particular but the fact they just destroyed almost all their shows also made me quite frustrated :/
I thought s1 and 2 of legacies were pretty solid. Especially the first half of s2. The malivore plot alone fixes one of the biggest plot holes in TVDU. After that though……yeah it’s pretty bad. Some good stuff in s4 and the musical episode in s3 was pretty great. But yeah…….
@@jessedellross3245ima be honest if you watched all tvd then you saw so many plot hole or thing that went against lore like the fact drinking animal blood makes rippers which is why you teach them how to eat instead
@@happygucci5094 i’m sorry man, but pilots are always very different. If you quit a show after the pilot, you’re not allowed to give an opinion on it lol
You were spot on about Elijah's character basically regressing in the last two seasons. Honestly after Season 3 he just becomes very sad and quiet. Like after killing Marcel and scaring the shit out of Hayley and Hope from his Red Door, it's like a part of him dies, there's a light in his eyes that's gone. He's not as playful, his humor is gone, he has less to do, he hinders the people around him than helps. It's like you could tell he's just tired of living if that makes sense.
I definitely agree with ya that post-memory wipe and regained Elijah wasn't as civil as he used to act and overall there was a large part of him that wanted to end the ride after a thousand years plus. He's still my favorite and most entertaining character I think. Just like Stefan he wants to be good and better, but due to the blood lust he is at his true nature the red beast, like Stefan was the ripper at his core.
@@Docta_Tma It's really tragic that his greatest strength started to become his greatest flaw. Like he would do what he would always do, instinctively protect his family, but it would always end up with other people outside the family he cared about getting hurt and dying. Like everytime he has to sacrifice something in order to keep the family intact, you could see his heart breaking a little more. He's really such a complex character and his arc does make alot of sense, it's just really sad to watch him lose everything but his family and then realizing his family is going to be okay without him and just choosing something for himself for once, which is dying by his own terms.
the fact that Marcel was SO hated during its run has always baffled me because he’s genuinely one of the most interesting characters and there’s SO many parts of his story that could’ve been heavily explored but aren’t
Klaus's monologues to Mercel have always been hard for me to watch there always so emotionally abusive. Well, I could have done worse to you so be grateful to me, I didn't hurt you worse. The majority of Klaus's speeches are narcissistic gaslighting.
@alorapendrak9752 yea but the way klaus is hes insane for marcel and really loved bro in a wild drunk way marcel know he had klaus head too elijah knew it also klaus was nuts for marcel they was family all of them
One thing I love about Vincent is how he wasn’t afraid to call out the Mikaelsons on their bullshit. He was a true pillar of the French Quarter and was even ready to tussle with Klaus when he killed one of his witches. And he didn’t hold back on laying into Elijah for murdering those four girls for a ritual.
Vincent was a favourite of mine he was not afraid of them and was willing to do what was right. I can see why he and Cami were best friends and truly he would be the best leader for the city
It what saves the character imo cause let’s be honest, he’s completely pointless after s2. He fills the “witch” role. The witch the main characters go to when they need a spell but frankly that role was already filled by Freya. Love the actor though
The Originals is at its heart a show about a dysfunctional family whose fate could have been avoided if just one of them had gone to therapy. Their patterns were all established when they were human and for over a millennium they've repeated their respective trauma cycles and re-experienced attachment issues over and over again. It tired me out a little to watch but also made the story so compelling because they acted so predictably human.
The Originals are for sure one of the best original series I've ever encountered. Something screams deep inside me that this could be better than The Vampire Diaries, but that's just my two cents. We can't deny the fact that this has a stellar cast of actors portraying every single one of the characters rather charmingly and seamlessly.
In my personal opinion I think the originals completely blows tvd out of the water! The ensemble cast is SO talented and their characters just have more depth to me! I also love how the originals is kind of a character study of klaus mikaelson, and his character arc will forever go down as one of my favorites! I love the complicated relationships they all have with each other and how even after everything they put each other through, they’re still family.
The quality over all is better, the cinematic quality and music and the actors are brilliant and have chemistry and I understand why people like TVD more it was the first show and had more overall drama and I think both TVD and TO had their downfalls but TVD had more seasons overall.
In a way I think TVD was ruined because of the Originals. They were too big. They needed thier own show. Sucks for TVD tbh.. the first 3 seasons were amazing. The Originals should've left way before they did.
Yusuf who plays Vincent is so underrated like his acting really sells the character. On paper, I think most people would find Vincent's character annoying. If they had switched him out for another actor, no doubt he would be more hated. But he's just so good, he's like one of the only characters that tells off The Mikealson's to their face and they just stay silent and accept it. He has such a strong backbone of authority that everyone just accepts.
what i loved about the Originals is that unlike TVD it isnt tied to any teenage drama of love triangles and high school, so more time was devoted to the lore and the politics. the adult themes were done so well because the characters weren't annoying teenagers
I'm really glad that Yusuf Gatewood got highlighted here, because he was so freaking good in this role. He was absolutely one of the best parts of the show and it's a shame that he hasn't been in a lot of things because he's an amazing actor.
He was legit terrifying as possessed Fin and a good villain. And despite being kinda pointless after s2, his performance made the character relevant even when he didn’t have much story or reason to exist behind him
I think the actress playing Hailey got better because she was surrounded by such great actors and they have said for years that great actors can pull out the best in others
So many things worked for it, the cast, the city as setting, New Orleans. And a CW show with the focus on adults. ADULTS, not teenagers. Loved it, still do.
I was very disappointed in the lack of commentary on Freya's introduction. I personally think it was one of the best introductions in the entire TVDU universe and deserved a shoutout or so. It was creepy, interesting and definitely had me in suspense of knowing her true origin and character.
@@MariaMartinez-bg4lb No not the originals books. The TVD books. The originals are from the TVD books. Books written before the shows creation and what the show is based off of.
The most heart shattering scene in all of the TVDU is when Elijah gets his memories back and realizes he had a part to play in the love of his life’s death, defending the enemy
Omg yes I really cried & even Kol had to shed a tear! I’m surprised he didn’t mention that it was highlight of that season! Also that the mom had her hand on Hayley’s heart so she couldn’t just push her
This is why I understood why he chose to die as well. Hope holds grudges and the weight from killing the woman he loved and the mother of his niece, he could not live with that.
Let's be honest here the whole damn cast of this show is talented as fuck. Especially Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies who are mad underrated in my opinion.
I'm just going to say - no, Hayley could not in fact just throw her enemy off her. She was facing a significantly older vampire with no hybrid strength who had her pinned to a wall and who had Hayley's heart in her hand. Perhaps people miss this but that never changed, she tore off a finger, but her heart was still firmly in her opponent's hand. She had only one moment to act while her enemy was stunned (keep in mind vampires recover from pain when its enough for them to feel very fast). Klaus had a wooden stake wedged through his spine. The only real issue on a mechanical level there was the instantaneous burst of flame, something we saw before in that season but which wasn't consistent with earlier TVD universe where you would burn for several seconds before bursting a flame and the flame took a few seconds to kill you. That said it was a kinda lame death.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment because I had similar thoughts. When space ninja said that shit, I was like did you actually watch the show. Even his Inadu comment. She wants to posses Hope so she can live again, it's not as pointless as he claims.
also when he says about how now everyone wants a piece of the originals but if you look at those challenging them they are all some of strongest in the universe with a few weak links season 1 is the originals picking a fight with people who they have beaten before season 2 is two of the world's strongest witches vs the first vampires so makes sense season 3 is originals vs the first non originals so people who aren't their equals but have nearly just as much experience as them plus witches and then everyone klaus ever wronged and then season 4 an 5 is basically just the hollow which in terms of lore is a witch infused with so much power they created a supernatural species and went off the deep end of ego.
Daniel Gillies hated the way Elijah died. He has spoken very passionately about it on a fan covention type thing. It's on youtube and I think it's worth a watch, because it's absolutely hilarious how outraged he is 😂
"I am laughing because I had no f*cking reason to die. Absolutely no f*cking reason whatsoever to die. Dumbest f*cking death of all time. Your loss you f*cking morons" - Daniel Gillies - Elijah Mikaelson xD
It’s so funny how many TVDUniverse main character DESPISE the their ending or just how their respective series ended. Kat Graham, Ian Somerhalder, Daniel Gillies, Joseph Morgan, also Paul Wesley (he wanted to be killed off but he didn’t like the ending at all) and just how many also requested to be written off cuz they just had enough but yet laugh ab how terrible it was the end. 😂
Originally the brother's duo death was supposed to be given to Steffan and Damon but because of the Toxic Fandom's obsession over Damon and Elena, they gave them a happy ending and passed the deaths off to Klaus and Elijah.
"Are there any more inopportune deaths you'd like to wave in my face?" "Give me a month. I'll get you a list." Hands down one of my favourite lines of dialogue in a TV show ever.
i think we can all agree that joseph morgan is an outstanding actor and klaus wouldve never worked if it wasnt for him like he acted the hell out of klaus character
you forgot to show that the monologue in season 3 was specifically designed by Klaus to make sure they didn't kill him so his siblings' lives could be saved. it was a sacrifice in which he riled them up enough so that when he said that his death was a small price to pay for what he had done to them all in order to save his family. It was a change from how the seasons usually ended with Klaus on top due to sacrificing everyone else.
Damn, Rebekah being written out was really seamless. I didn’t know it was because she was trying to work less. And “filler episodes” were seamless to me also just because I like the characters, maybe it wasn’t necessary but we definitely got to know them well.
Yeah I wouldn’t have even considered them filler episodes per se. sometimes we just got to see what a specific character was up to for that day or what goal a character was working towards which I personally think was good since they were working with so many characters and had to do 22 eps.
I personally thought the way she was written out in s3 was bad. That’s when it became pretty obvious to me. Her departure also hurts the show a little cause the trio of Klaus/Elijah/Rebecca is why originals got made in the first place. Their dynamic is amazing. With her gone the show loses that. Don’t get me wrong, the show is still great throughout and JM and DG were great enough to cover for it but compare the show with Rebecca as a regular to it without her There is a noticeable gap
@@jessedellross3245 sure ofc, it’s sucks to see her go. I would rather her be apart of it but the actress didn’t really leave them a choice. They didn’t write her out in a spiteful way, it was a noble exit. Usually you can tell when someone’s written off for a reason, I’m saying it’s cool I had no idea there was a reason.
@@KiaraWilliamsX I’m not judging Claire at all. I understand why she left and respect it. I also respect that she was still committed to the show and character and was willing to come back as often as she did. I’m just saying the show was hurt by her absence. I mean it’s called The Originals. The show is literally about this family, not just two members of it. All of them. It’s why Im ok with seasons 4 and 5. Cause there’s more of the family in it and that is always great
I absolutely ADORE Rebekah, so I am pretty sad that she couldn't have full arcs with her actress's absence, but I'm also eternally grateful that her actress didn't want to leave us hanging. Her limited participation still gave us SO much
Klaus only ever knew how to be dysfunctional in his affections so the fact that he sometimes handled Hailey better than he treated his family was impressive. I think the thing that stood out between the characters was that Klaus had genuine respect for Hailey as the mother of his child but also because of how much other crap she dealt with not having a family then being the alpha of her pack, and how she fit in with the family so well. It was a weird dynamic but it was also complex yet genuine.
The only thing I disagreed with is when you said Elijah was hope’s closet uncle. From her perspective she barely knew the guy. During the time jump of season 3 to 4, he was asleep because of Marcel’s venom. Therefore, didn’t see hope grow up to whatever age she was in the 4th season. Then Elijah gets his memory erased from season 4 to 5, so they don’t interact at all until he remembers everything. Then he is partially responsible for Hailey‘s death., and hope is pissed at him for it. From hope’s perspective, he is a guy she barely knows that had a hand in killing her mother. Arguably, I would say marcel is her closet uncle.
@@rahbeeuhBut also uncle because he married Rebekah. Immortal families are weird with relationships. The fact Klaus adopted Marcel but they also shared a love interest in Camille then Marcel goes on to marry his adoptive aunt.
I am simple man, never saw TVD or The Originals, but spent 6 hours watching the two series' analysis videos and now I can say Klaus is one my fav character of all time.
Joseph’s voice really puts the cherry on top for his performance. It doesn’t matter what he’s saying, you just wanna listen. Another guy with a similar voice is Jeremy irons. Look him up..you’re welcome.
@@rethsen8146 Short reminder that not everyone's from an English speaking country. I could recognize Scar's German voice actor Thomas Fritsch (may he rest in peace) everywhere, but have no clue how Jeremy Irons sounds.
I always joke with my friends that The Originals is basically what happens when you cast some HBO level actors in a cw show. Joseph Morgan and David Gilles are way too good for this show!
Yeah, I feel like people don’t realize how important consistency is when having different actors portray the same character. Like, I’m a big fan of Chinese dramas and in one of my favorites, the two leads body swap (twice). And I cannot stress how much those scenes would not have worked if the two actors hadn’t captured each other’s characters so well. It’s so immersion breaking when an actor portraying a character with previous characterization can’t capture it-and Esther’s character is a prime example of that.
Shot in the dark here, are you talking about "Love Between Fairy and Devil"? Because a friend of mine was literally waxing poetic about the performance of the body-swapping in that show, right before I watched this video; and it was the first thing I thought of when FSN started talking on the subject.
@@YourFaceisPretty Somehow I didn’t see you comment until now, but YES!!! I adore that drama, it’s one of my favorites of all time, and the body-swap scenes always make me cackle. The actors do *such* a good job playing each other’s characters. I highly recommend watching it.
I think the originals is way better in being a vampire show than the vampire diaries ever was. Also this show felt like it was made for the audience that felt in love with the vampire diaries in season 2/3
Not really. For example, the 90's had "Xena". And there were probably similar situations earlier. Which doesn't take away from the quality of "The Originals".
i will never forget marcels speech on episode 1. he immediately commanded my attention as a character worthy enough to join the mikaelson ranks especially closing out with his "IM THE KING" line
Marcel was a great threat to Klaus - he was both attractive, very charismatic and compassionate- all things Klaus wasn’t. And Klaus knew it. Every time Marcel flashed his beautiful smile 🥰🥰🥰.
@@Lafemmefutilefirst of all, klaus is attractive, let’s get that straight💀 second he’s also charismatic and he’s very compassionate TOO compassionate even lol
I hated Klaus. Actually I started to see the Originais because I was intrigued by hist meeting with Cami. The Chemistry in that scene was so great that I started to see the Originals, but I got really said when cami died.
Watched it as a teenager and it marked me. Some scenes still live in my head and have rlly changed what I look for in some TV shows, some action scenes, some villains... I'm so glad to see someone able to explain just what was so special and winning about this show. To this day, Klaus is an unmatched character as are Marcel, Hayley and Rebekah. S1-S3 had me on the edge of my seat and it was soo dramatic but in a way that was totally immersive.
I'm so sad that the community was so foul to Cami's actress. I loved her chemistry with Klaus (never cared for Klaroline either) and I loved how she was able to humble his enormous ego. Fans ruin everything😢
Klaus and cami were everything like their love was so pure. Tvd fans want the toxic ships always like remember how they basically made the writers gaslight the fandom w fan service only to get Delena endgame 😭? Klaroline is just as toxic but without the buildup Damon and Elena had. Klamille should have been endgame
So glad he made this video, in my opinion the Originals is so much better than TVD. The dialogue in certain scenes had a gravitas not commonly found on CW shows, especially and not limited to its predecessor TVD. Even the acting was pretty solid, Gillies and Morgan in particular, there were no real weak links. Moreover, the story just felt more sophisticated and mature, possibly because we were so used to the relationship drama filled TVD but nevertheless it’s first 3 seasons are some of the most solid television the CW has put out and no one can change my mind.
“This city would have seen you dead, but I will have it your home, and every soul who wishes you harm will be struck down, just as sure as my blood runs in your veins. You will return to me.” I will have the moment I heard this quote forever ingrained in my mind. It was perfection.
The disappointment I felt when I found out Matt Davis is the way he is was massive. I personally ADORE Alaric, his story in the TVD is so tragic by constantly losing every woman he loved, his friendship with Damon despite the fact he killed his wife, how he became a parent to Elena and Jeremy when they lost everyone in their family, and how amazing of a father he became to Lizzie and Josie made me love him. It was such a shame to find out the actor isn’t the greatest person, he’s kind of a creep and made the girls in both TVD and Legacies pretty uncomfortable. P.S Klaus finding Camille dead next to him after finally confessing his love and feeling genuinely happy in a long time WAS THE MOST HEARTBREAKING SHIT I’VE EVER SEEN. I actually really liked Camille and I thought she was really good for Klaus. I don’t claim the TVD fandom toxicity.
I actually genuinely liked Cami but I didn’t like her as a love interest. I preferred her as being a therapist to him and then of course I would’ve liked her to be a loyal friend. But I didn’t like that she died and especially how she died it was sad but I was definitely more sad for Klaus bcuz he’s literally been through everything and when he’s finally able to take the next step and let himself fall in love he’s then utterly screwed over with her tragic death twice. So messed up.
Phoebe and Claire will always hold a special place in my heart bc they fr gave me the best childhood with H20 and then made my teen years good with the originals to.
I can't believe people voted in your poll when they hadn't seen both shows. I think, for sure, the Originals would win in a poll consisting only of people who had seen them both. It's genuinely the best show the CW has ever created, I couldn't agree with you more!
I remember being so surprised when Klaus appeared in TVD cause he really stands out for being so greatly written AND acted, but also because, as you kinda pointed out, he is probably the only one in TVD universe which is written with consistency. The writers just really understood every aspect of him and it just reflects on how much he stands out in comparison to other characters in the series (also props to Joseph Morgan for playing him perfectly), like I don't believe there's anyone who has seen the show and doesn't love Klaus.
I will _NEVER_ understand the way that so many people will fail to establish in their minds the clear line necessary between fiction versus reality and will so rabidly misdirect/redirect or project their dislike for fiction onto the actors and actresses who are literally just doing their jobs. *SMH.* It's disgusted me since literal childhood, back when the Star Wars prequel trilogy first started coming out in cinemas.
Look, I actually was a Klaroline shipper, and I freaking adored Cami & her dynamic with Klaus even _in spite_ of myself.!! And the whole entire foundation of Klaroline being that they are immortals and don't have to be each other's first or only loves in order to still be there for each other in the end makes it work, plus .. sometimes life is just like that, when things don't work out the way you want, sometimes that opens the door for something else coming in completely unexpectedly on its heels that you could not have predicted at the time; sometimes, shite changes. There is literally nothing wrong with this. And it does not necessarily mean it has to at all demean or take anything away from what came before that, it just means that the trajectory in the end might not look anything at all like anyone thought it would beforehand, and some people have more trouble coping with that than others do. I guess. ( But I also was no longer really actively engaging with the fandom, overall, by the time The Originals was going. I was still watching the shows, sooner or later, but I wasn't actively engaging with the fandom surrounding the universe anymore. So I kinda just happily existed in my own little bubble, alone with my own thoughts/feelings. Lolll 🤷♀️ ^-^ )
This just reminded me how little time was Klaus actually able to spend with Hope. First they had to give her to Rebecca, then he was imprisoned by Marcel for 5 years and then he had to stay away from her for another 7 years and THEN he died.
I think The Originals did a good job of having complex characters who are- in a lot of ways- the villains of this universe, and not trying to make them 'good'. This family has done horrible things, a lot of which they feel no remorse for, but we still care because even 'monsters' have family and hopes and demons to work through. They're not black or white, and we don't need to them to be the 'good guys' to care about them. They're bad people, and the show owns that and develops on that. In TVD, characters like Damon and Stefan have done horrible things in the past, but the show distorts things so that the viewers are supposed to believe they're the good guys all of a sudden. It just felt like a cop out. Damon has killed a lot if people, but he gets to grow old with Elena with very little push back. I guess I just think TO had characters that guided the story, but in TVD it felt like the writers were forcing the characters into unnatural directions.
I always felt that while the Originals were capable of doing good things they were never “good guys”. In TVD we were just supposed to accept that Stefan and Damon were good guys suddenly and if someone tried to hold them accountable for all the awful things they had done in the past that person was usually presented in a negative light. The Originals owned that the main characters were messed up people with a dark history and somehow still made me root for them.
I have to say immortal families have weird relationships where you need flow chart to understand it. Klaus fosters Marcel, who marries Rebekah, who is his foster aunt. Marcel fosters Davina, who marries Kol, who is Marcel’s foster uncle so then Davina’s foster great uncle. Hope is Klaus’ daughter so she’s Marcel’s foster sister but also uncle through Rebekah and Davina is her foster niece but also aunt through Kol. Also weird how Klaus and Marcel are foster father and son but they shared a love interest in Camille. And don’t even get me started on TVD’s characters relationship.
The energy thing from the body swapping was so true. The actress who played Rebecca was perfect she did an awesome job playing Rebecca like Claire did. Its why I didnt buy Kol, he was okay but too different to Nathaniels take.
The fact that after everything that it was Klaus that Hayley looked at before dying, and Klaus crying over Hayley reading her letters, ended their story and relationship perfectly. I do like the theory that they’re platonic soulmates.
I will defend Cami until the day I die. Such an underrated character that was underused because of rabid, delusional shippers yelling at the writers about how we all allegedly hated her. Also, Leah Pipes didn't request to be written off. In an interview she said she was informed the character was dying. So, the showrunners saw the years of body shaming and death threats and decided to reward those nasty people with her on screen death. It was messed up.
@@emilysullivan3875So Klaus would basically be a pedo for liking Caroline then and y’all constantly hype him up. Have him be chasing after a 17 yr old boy and y’all would’ve had an issue.
absolutely hate Klaroline and Camille deserved so much more than to be collateral damage to torment Klaus. her character brought out the best in him in some scenes and Leah did a great job in the role. so messed up that she got so much hate due to delusional shippers
Agreed. Camille was a lovely character. That scene with her and Klaus in which he tells her he doesn't want to look at her forever from behind a glass wall still brings tears to my eyes.
I felt so bad for Davina man I didn't really like her either but I didn't expect them to all be so heartless towards her and just let her die like that. I also felt bad for Kol, since he had finally become somewhat decent due to finally finding love...
love the way you point out it’s easier to be feared than loved for klaus’ character. mikael only ever taught him fear and i think his fathers abuse towards him was the real reason that he felt estranged from his siblings even before becoming a hybrid and learning he’s not mikael’s son, but that just made it worse of course.
Regarding Elijah deciding to die with klaus, I totally agree that it felt out of character and not at all like something Elijah would do. I feel like that decision was just the writers preparing for Legacies and if Daniel Gillies didn’t sign on for that show, there would be no in universe explanation that would make any sense for Elijah not to be heavily involved in Hope’s life. I’ve never seen Legacies, but that’s my theory
i’ve always seen it as elijah wanting to die for that “dance” with hayley. you can tell when hope tells him that hayley awaits him in the afterlife in the penultimate episode, he has a realisation, that’s why he wants the hollow in him and to be killed. to be with hayley, he doesn’t say it because that’s not him. basically, elijah is a simp.
glad that daniel didn't show up in legacies, that show is terrible, unfortunally klaus appeared to give a message to hope, he appeared on a bed sheet, is the most awful thing i ever saw, but was little emotional see him again
I have to disagree. I think it made since both in story and meta wise. It was obvious DG as well as JM were done with the characters. Which is fair both had played the parts for almost a decade at that point. So it made sense in that respect. But Elijah mission was complete. Klaus had been redeemed. And he wanted to reunite with Haley. You see it on his face when hope tells him what Haley told her about that dance. You see the wheels turning in his head. He’s ready to move on
@@leptospirocathe first two seasons of legacies are pretty solid. Especially the first half of s2. Season 3 is……yeah it’s bad. And 4 isn’t much better. Klaus scene I thought was great cause JM was great. It just sucks cause they had rush things that he couldn’t be there in person. But it was good for what it was
Klaus and Elijah will always and forever be two of my favorite television characters ever. The way that Elijah chooses to leave the earth WITH Klaus? After hundreds and hundreds of years always trying to save his soul?? And choosing to do it due to the love for his brother and his own feelings of tiredness from living for so long??? The love I have for those two is so unmatched. I’m so happy you covered this show! Despite the less than great final two seasons 😂
I so agree! I cried when they died; their brotherly love and faithfulness to one another was deeply moving. Elijah had completed his mission to protect his brother and Klaus was breaking his cycle of violence.
The funny thing is.... I actually expected so much worse from the final season, and I was pleasantly surprised that it actually was better than I expected it to be, even if it also wasn't particularly perfect. It's interesting how much perspective and/or expectations can color our reception if things sometimes.
The Originals is one of the only shows that stays in the back of mind, for some reason. I could be doing anything and suddenly find myself quoting the show or thinking about how badass that family was. It is one of the few examples of a sequel not only being good, but being better than the source. Best CW show (and one of the best WB shows) by far.
Orphan Black is one of my all time favorite shows ever. Tatiana’s Maslany is an absolute powerhouse. The best part is when she’s playing one of the clones playing a different clone. 500/10
Definitely! Of the three shows _The Originals_ was my fave. I'm not a big fan of romantic storylines and ships so TO was my jam! _Legacies_ was a disappointment tho
Just came to let you know this video essay convinced me to watch the show, and less than a month later i'm proud to announce that i've finished all of it and i loved it. Also i agree that elijah's arc gave me whiplash in season 5 and it's so dumb that they killed him off. He would've absolutely stayed by hope's side
Yusef Gatewood also played Ray Chestnut in the Umbrella Academy and he was good there too! Ray never gets a lot of screentime but Yusef is really good at making Ray feel like the confused husband whos brought into this superpowered world and both sceptical of it while also infinitely fascinated
His character of Vincent was so good!!! Everytime he lays into the originals is iconic!! Goosebumps when that scene comes when he tells them, they have lived for centuries, it's their turn to give up some life. (horrible paraphrase.) It was just so good!!
the ending is actually kind of heartbreaking for Klaus, Haley, and Hope. I mean, everything Haley wanted basically never came true considering Hope ended up an orphan at the end. The thought of that being the conclusion for Haley and Hope just makes me very sad.
In the film Moonlight, the three actors that played the main character (each played him at different times in his life) worked together to make sure the performances were consistant and that the audience would believe they're watching a true progression of one person. I don't think cw shows would ever put that much effort into prepping actors to play the same character.
A love Niklaus, he's such a complex caracter. The person capable of everything to protect his family is also the person who is constantly hurting his family. And a love that, even after he becomes a father and discovers a whole new level of love and devotion, he continues to make the same mistakes. The man is a thousand years old, a thousand years of paranoia, enemies and death. A love that giving him a daughter and a family that will stand by him and her doesn't "fix" his issues. But you know that when the time arrives, he will sacrifice himself for said family and daughter. The man is iconic, completely unhinged and full of problems, but iconic nonetheless. As for my biggest criticism of the show: the lore being broken and rewritten over and over... honestly, that is the most consistent pattern in Julie Plec writing. It is exhausting and makes you want to give up many times, but at least The Originals had amazing characters. Unlike Legacies who only had the weakest point of Julie Plec writing: broken lore and weak boring characters. Ps* We all know that Klaus, Hayley and Elijah dying in the end is just because they wanted to milk the TVD universe even more with Legacies. Hope wouldn't be doing shit in that show if even one of them was alive. Hell, is already unforgivable how both Rebekah and Freya show up like once in that dumpster fire of a show. Legacies can only exist if the people who loved Hope the most were dead. It's very disrespectful but we all know how the industry works.
I watched legacies and it such a different show compared to tvd and originals like it didn't feel like they were in the same universe. Honestly it felt a like Disney Channel show for preteens but they were allowed to curse and talk abt sex LMAOOO
@@aahana4931 same here, i think the writing done for Klaus’s character was phenomenal but i also think Joseph Morgan embodied him so well that it really made you fall in love with the character that much more. i will forever be a klaus apologist🙏 that man can do no wrong in my eyes
I loved Camille's character and was always disturbed by the amount of hatred Camille/Leah Pipes got. I felt Camille was a nurturer and that her character was crucial in Klaus' character development. She brought out the softer, more vulnerable side to Klaus. People acted like only one woman could be critical to his development. 😂 I also really loved Davina as a character and never understood why she was so hated. 😂 I liked that she was a formidable foe for the Originals throughout the series.
camille is so cute and has a right to behave the way she does bc realistically, we would act just like her if we were in her shoes. ppl just hate her bc they wanted klaus to be with caroline which i get but somehow klamille was way better written than klaroline.
I wish you had talked a little more about Vincent. He was a standout character to me especially in later seasons. I didn't like Davina either but I really loved Cami and I can't believe that fans were so horrible to her. I hated how the show ended and that plot hole made me feel worse. I'd love to forget the last two seasons and that the whole of legacies exists lol
I think the storyline of how Klaus treated his siblings showed how and why they fell out of power as a whole and explained why essentially no one feared their power outside of vampire diaries. Klause had them all if not most of them locked away for hundreds of years. When Elijah got back to Mistic Falls, non of the vampires knew who he was and were oblivious that he couldnt die. They never heard of Klaus, the possibility of a hybrid, nothing. Eventually, they just werent around to make people fearful or protect one another. Then once Esther returned, instead of keeping her family together at their strongest she tried to kill them and revealed their biggest weakness, that they can be killed by the remaining with any remaining white oak. Defeating her helped them get closer but by loosing Cole and Fynn along with their sire lines, it was open season for anyone who had an issue with an Original or their line. It made sense that the oldest vampires would battle it out. When it was all said and done, the only lines remaining were Rebekkas and Klause, although, I'm not sure if cole can start a new line now that he's back in his body. So technically there's 3 of the original 5.
Thank you for lauding the cast. They are so, so iconic. Especially the originals. Joseph Morgan is just spectacular. He gives Klaus this just this sense of grandiosity, this feeling of being *ancient,* while Daniel Gillies gives the same sense but *suave,* somehow. He gives this almost slinking panther feeling. Suave and beautiful on the outside, vicious and violent underneath. Joseph Morgan effortlessly goes from grandiose speech to ripping heads off and it still all feels like Klaus. Claire Holt absolutely does the same with Rebekah, but gives this almost teenaged, whiny quality to her that constantly reminds you that she was just a girl once, who wanted just to grow up and have a family of her own. And she's willing to kill to get it. Marcel was a great addition to this set of characters. Charles Michael Davis gives Marcel this sense of attempting to live up to the grand nature of the originals and failing, but without seeming like he's actually inferior. He knows who he is and what he wants and how to get it, but he has a humbleness that the originals lack-that they can't seem to actually drum up within themselves. I love these characters and actors so much.
I like that you point out Elijah nature under the surface. He tries to be noble and honorable but his true nature is that of a predator. It’s why the fact he wears suits is so important to his character. He literally dresses up suave and sophisticated to hide the darkness inside him and the dark thoughts and instincts he carries
Agreed, agreed, except for Marcel not living up to the Originals, I actuaclly think he surpasses them. Exactly because he is so much more aware of himself and his weaknesses, because of the way that he treats others and because of his values. He has this human factor to him that the other kind of lost
Re: the Orphan Black shout-out, I saw the actress who played Siobhan on a panel telling a story about Tatiana Maslany's own mother finding herself forgetting that her daughter was on-screen during certain scenes, because her acting was just so good that she essentially didn't recognize her daughter when a scene with one of her other characters ended. Incredible actress.
Tatiana Maslany is MIND-BENDINGLY amazing in Orphan Black. When all the clones are talking to each other it's so bafflingly think this is all the same actor. The loungeroom dance scene was jaw dropping.
Everything you are saying about Elijah's character in the finale stretch is true-buut he chose to erase his memory of his family specifically _BECAUSE_ of how much he knew that he would never be able to abandon his family even though he literally physically *HAD* to walk away from them in order to keep them alive, and even though it absolutely would make sense if Elijah transferred his loyalty to Hope[ after Klaus was gone] .. the thing is that Hope doesn't really need him to, Hope has so many other people in her life and family still, but Elijah has always been Klaus's one singular constant in life and Klaus' biggest fear was always to be utterly alone so how in the world[ even for Hope] could Elijah realistically have ever lived with himself IF - _even _*_after_*_ Klaus had finally actually became a decent man[ just like Elijah had always wanted and seen the potential for in Klaus]_ - Elijah had ever actually let Klaus die alone . . Just because Klaus was finally willing to try and face/brave that loneliness/aloneness specifically for the benefit of his daughter? . Like, do I *like* that they both died in the end? NO. Did I *want* to see Elijah go out that way? Also, NO! Buuut I thought it *_did_* actually make sense, even if I do completely understand why it was either hit or miss for other viewers. But maybe that's just me, and my own weird way of looking at it & trying to rationalize it away so that I can bear it, or something! 🤷♀️🤷🤷♀️ 🤷🏻♂️ 😁 Loll
The minute they were introduced in TVD, I just knew they were getting a spinoff, this family is truly so INSANE, yet TOP TIER. Who else is doing it like the Mikaelsons? No one.
I will never forgive the writers for not utilizing Nathaniel Buzolic to the fullest potential. He is such a good actor and they could have made Kol a bigger character in the series and given him more to do than what they did what a waste of potential
Yeah I feel like Kol and Rebekah were more of the chaotic and interesting mikaelsons and they were both shafted throughout the entire show with on and off appearances throughout each season so they weren't really a part of the main plot
Finally someone points out nina‘s great job to Portrait two different characters in one show. Even when the two characters imitated each other it had a different color to it. Amazing ❤
@@annushankar3032 but no one gives a fuck about TV shows in Hollywood. A more popular show than TVD is modern family, but I doubt any of those actors got awards for their performance
It breaks my heart that ppl hated Camille. I actually really liked her as a character. And her chemistry w klaus was unmatched imo. I literally cried during both her deaths I did not want her to die. I wanted to see more of her soooo bad
I think one of the weird things this show reveals about the overall lore of the world is that both the vampires and werewolves were created by a witch’s curse. The Hollow is not just a non-threatening orb of blue that compels people to kill children, she is also the origin of the werewolf curse. Similarly, the vampires were created by witch magic. Therefore witches should be the most powerful, since they’ve created immortals, vampires, and werewolves. And Hope is a living witch with two very powerful witch spells placed on her.
i love hearing about a show that you actually liked for the most part. beating up and endlessly talking about bad shows can be very tiring to listen to and it’s so prevalent. it’s much harder to talk positively about something than negativity and i really appreciate the effort
What you said about this cast is so true. They are utterly captivating. They elevate the material they are given and created such complex yet beloved iconic characters. The thing I always loved the most about it is just scenes where the Original family actors share the screen and get to play. Their dynamic is perfection.
I am glad you talked about vincent griffith. He is slept on. The actors that plays him is so ridiculously good. Griffith on player is boring af but the actor breaths life into him and made him one of my favorites.
He is completely pointless after s2. Yet the actor takes nothing and still manages to give a strong performance. Him as possessed Fin is legit terrifying. It’s sad he didn’t get a better sendoff honestly. His story ending with becoming basically a sperm donor for fraya and her wife………..yeah
The body hopping is an issue we saw with Matt Davis playing Klaus initially. Even though I’m pretty sure this is moreso on the writers not being quite sure how Klaus would act and behave, Davis played Klaus veeeery differently than what we saw with Morgan. Later on, Trevino plays Klaus too, when he’s in Tyler’s body, and you still don’t get the feeling that this is the Klaus we know in there. They should’ve done what they did in Deathly Hallows and have the original actor play the character as written and have the others emulate the performance.
@@DisabledDoll See, I would agree, if the writing was consistent. Watch the scenes where Ric is possessed near the end of S02, he actually isn’t doing a bad job, he’s just way too inconsistent with who Klaus is in the end. Simply check the dialogue, exclude any acting choices, the majority of it doesn’t seem like things Klaus would say at all.
49:26 that's why, as short as it is, I love the Captain America cameo in Thor: The Dark World. Chris Evans had to come on set and play Loki, who is pretending to play captain America. It's a short clip but I love it because you can see that Evans studied Tom Hiddleston's speech patterns and stuff. Also Freaky Friday does the body thing and technically I'd argue it's a bit different just because the actresses don't necessarily always embody the other, it does challenge Lindsey Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis to act different from their ages and that can be hard to do. JLC is convincing as a teenager trapped in a middle aged woman's body, LL is convincing as a weary middle aged woman trapped in a teenager's body. I'd argue it was a harder role for Lohan because where Curtis could pull from her life experience having been a teenager, Lohan was still young so she had to do the extra work of figuring out how to play an older woman trapped in a teen body. Anyway body swap plotlines give me great pleasure when executed properly Edit: meant to add that's also why impersonations are impressive when done insanely well because you can learn to speak like a person SURE but what really sells it is the mannerisms, speech patterns, how you move your face. I saw a video of an older man doing impressions and that man looks nothing like Patrick Stewart but when he switches to playing him I could swear he looked exactly like Stewart because of how he moved his face. It's crazy
Regarding Marcel, I’m not so fond of how he was treated by his adoptive family. He basically was “rescued” from slavery only to endure even more abuse (Elijah killing him). It was really only Klaus and Rebekah who viewed him as a member of their family. That being said his relationship with the latter was also very creepy, idc what the fandom says it’s just weird to get with someone who’s technically your aunt. But I think it was good for him to survive in the end.
True, somehow since tvd Rebekah is the only character who never had a good ship going. They could never pair her well at all, which is funny considering ships are bread and butter for these shows.
Yeah and the fact that when they met Marcel was only 10 and Rebekah was like 800 is crazy😭 and even if they’re going by when she was turned I’m pretty she was between the ages of like 18-23ish so it’s still weird😭
@@precious6727lol I didn’t know that...but literally all the rships in tvd universe are creepy, there’s no getting around it...except maybe for legacies but I haven’t watched that show so I can’t be sure of it
Phoebe's accent slipped at times, when she said certain words like "no" or when she said"I slept with a complete psycho" in the first episode, I think I only noticed that bc I knew already that she's Australian.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Phoebe Tonkins American accent is on par with Keanu Reeves English accent in Dracula. Being unable to do a non-regional "Hollywood" American accent, the easiest English accent in the world is embarrassing for any actor and shows the lack of talent. My ears bled every time she tried and failed that accent and I am neither American nor Australia.
My experience with tvd was really good, but the moment I found out about The originals, I became obsessed with it, the fact that I didn't even finished tvd because i was so into The originals speak for itself how much I preferred it over tvd✨✨
Seasons 4 and 5 had Julie Plec as a showrunner when Seasons 1-3 were run mostly by Michael Narducci who wrote some of the best TVD episodes. Take that as you will. 😂😂
No way. That makes such sense lmao
Exactly he was the reason the originals was so good when it was good
And I'm heading over to that man's IMDB, right now...
And Narducci created Marcel he's such a visionary
That's not true, Narducci was the showrunner for seasons 3+4 and was an executive producer seasons 2-4. Julie is the one that created the show in the first place.
I find it especially sad that Phoebe Tonkin and Claire Holt didnt have more scenes together because they spent their whole teenage years playing best friends on H2O just add water. They have amazing chemistry and such a long history of acting together. Truly couldve had some great scenes with them and their characters
Side note maybe cover H2O sometime!🙏🏿🙏🏿
Yeah it’s really funny watching their first scenes together and how dismissive and even a little rude Rebecca is to Haley knowing the two actresses are bffs.
It kinda reminds me of when Arya and Sansa reunite in GOT. You know the characters haven’t seen each other in years but the two actresses are literally inseparable
@@kaylagreene8082interestingly enough they're on UA-cam or at least the episodes used to be
@@jessedellross3245and now I'm upset again 😭 GoT ruined me and the relationship I had with TV viewing
IKR?! God it was unreal to see them in these shows when I’m so use to them being Cleo and Emma
When Joseph Morgan speaks his monoloques, it's as if you're watching a Shakespeare play, spectacular
Idk if you’ve forgotten but Klaus mentions meeting Shakespeare but literally ends up being the reason why Shakespeare is famous so literally Klaus is the real “Shakespeare”. Or really would should be saying Shakespeare is like Klaus. So it’s a Klaus play not Shakespeare. 😄 lol
Klaus often mentions they compelled famous artists to do work for them or made them sell his family's art as their own under their name.
So good, his trial speech at the end of season three is a thing of beauty. Like I was watching Julius Caesar or something.
Yes, and that’s a problem. His acting is sometimes far too theatrical.
@@haggisawell his character IS theatrical as other characters often tell him.
One reason i prefer the originals over tvd is the lack of messy romance. And romance is always in the background and never the main point.
I just love the no love triangles
@@divinelangene6813 Yeah, same. While definitely not a masterpiece, The Originals is still a surprisingly complex, thrilling and overall well written TV show despite the mountain of flaws it carries. Literally, this what TVD should’ve been.. In every way possible.
@@nocturnaliism whenever Julie Plec takes over the show always goes to crap
@@nocturnaliismwhat were the flaws you speak of?
@@DanniBbys4 and s5, the ending, the way klaus dies (as in the logistics), hayley’s death, resurrecting davina, etc
The fact that vampire diaries went down hell after the departure of the originals says so much about how much character they bring ! Every plot that followed was a catastrophe ! And the originals was a show about adults which was perfect since we've all grown up from the teenage drama that was happening on tvd
Yep without the originals the vampire diaries fell apart
actually went down hill since season 4, the originals were still 5here (in my opinion)
@@thecuantocabronshow5072 tbh I kept watching religiously until Klaus left ! That's when I started watching just because I was afraid to miss something!
Yes but also, almost every show goes downhill after S3-4. You can't strech the lore without consequences.
I say the show went down hill in season 7. The show was still good in season 4 ,5,6
Have I've seen The Vampire Diaries?
No.
Have I've seen The Originals?
No.
Will I watch a three hours long essay about The Originals just because is Friendly Space Ninja?
Absolutely.
Same girl same
Hahah that’s me lol
Sameeee😂
Right there with ya 😂
I barely saw any media he talks about but still watch the videos
If this cast was in an HBO's version of the originals with HBO writing and budget, I am more than confident that it would have been considered one of the greatest ever tv shows
Damn now you making me wish for things that will never happen. 🤧🤧🤧🤧
AGREED
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Soooo... If the most part and most important part of the show were different, it would be great ?
HBO version of The Originals? as someone who has watched all 3 shows like at least 30+ times this would be insane bro 😭😭
Joseph Morgan as Klaus Mikaelson is one of the greatest vampire characters of all time and his monologues is some of the best ever. The scene where he gives his enemies a chance to pick up the coin to be spared has to be one of the most badass scenes in T.V. history.
HE REALLY embodies the 'eternal immortal' that vampires *should* be, or that we've come to expect in fiction. He's suave, rich, and domineering - a true foe, a true predator. He can blend into high society, or paint the streets with blood like the viking he is. And he does it all with panache. Joseph Morgan was the perfect casting choice, and I love that the Original family was such a hit that they got an excellent spinoff.
I ❤ klaus
@@christabelle__ i heard that even in tvd apart from the three lovebird joseph paid highest per episode among all special guest
I think the greatest thing about Klaus and haley's relationship is it subverts your usual romance inspired stories and expectations, they know they don't work together but try their best to be good co parents and respect each other as such, most stories would've shoved them together regardless if they worked or not
I actually love them more Tham Hayley and Elijah but its so refreshing that they are platonic and manage to be a family without being a couple
Klaus should’ve killed Hailey
X .x x
@@iamme4494 oh 😃
@@iamme4494 oh 😬
Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies were absolutely iconic in both The Originals and The Vampire Diaries. I'm genuinely frustrated they were never considered for major awards. Their performances often overshadowed their co-stars because they were JUST. THAT. GOOD.
dont disrespect Claire Holt
@@bodigames Why - she decided she didn't want to be in it, but she had to oblige her contract and so she was forced into going to the studio part time.
Her inability to commit to the series had a direct impact on the quality of the show and it was clear she didn't give it her all when she was there.
@@noonyakaleka2098talk your talk....Rebekah who?!?? Hahaha not gonna lie, though the character had valid gripes against Klaus. I did not care about it as much due to her acting. There was way more emotion that could have been shown. I should be walking away with fuck Klaus. Not, awe well....she will be fine. Which how I walked away from most of her scenes, and that's because of how the actress played her.
Agreed!!! Joseph Morgan should have won an award for Best Villain on TV. Daniel Gillies, made a great antihero. Their brotherhood was and still is so iconic, I don't think any Villian family could ever compare in the future.
@@Dr.Beetlejuice110 The actress plays her like the Director wants her to play it.
If you don’t like it blame the director.
honestly the mikaelson siblings are just so entertaining they really hit the jackpot with the actor’s chemistry i absolutely love them
Yeah and honestly the reason I find it entertaining is because of the fact that they are the originals!!! Like these are the first ever vampires and the way they could of gone and explored more of that ❤❤❤❤❤
Klaus screaming "REBEKAAAAAAHHHH!" will forever be equally iconic and blood curdling
😹😹I can somehow hear this
When Rebekah takes Hope, knowing how much she always wanted to be a mom, Klaus giving her up with tears in his eyes... It makes me weep every time 😭
i wish they showed more of her taking care of hope when she was a baby too
No lie, this scene with Rebecca and Klaus started my diet and fitness regimen! I loved it so much, I kept watching it over and over, and it made me cry real feelz tears each time. Crying hard makes me lose my appetite, and back then, I spent a lot of time eating. Since i wasn't eating, I got bored and started exercising 😅
rebekah
I PERFFER THE ORIGINALS
@@gallarinas I know, I thought of it later and remembered it wasn't spelled "ordinarily" 😅 But, I also think the Nordic spelling is kinda weird, in Spanish it looks so wrong to me 🤣
I will forever stick to the opinion that the original is just an overall better show then the vampire diaries. I absolutely love the mikaelsons family and I think that they are just much more charismatic and interesting characters then all other tvd characters. Plus I loved how the show was heavily focused on the family and the family relationships. Personally I found it to be much more compelling then never ending romances in tvd.
I've never seen the vampire diaries but I watched the originals start to finish and I loved it. I watched the video Dylan made on vampire diaries and I don't think I would like it.
@@luluangelina2923yeah, I always knew I would not enjoy watching TVD, but after this video I now consider just watching the Originals.
@@resstie Yeah it's really good. The only problem I had was the filler.
yes and even tho the romances aren’t the main focus
i found the romances in the originals to carry so much more weight and depth
I agree. The Originals might be a little inconsistent in terms of plot and not always make the right choices for the direction of the show, but it still was such a good show on it's own and one of the best executions of a spinoff I've seen so far. I much preferred the romance taking kind of a background role and them focusing on family conflict. I preferred how Elijah and Klaus explored brotherhood compared to Damon and Stefan. Underrated but Klaus and Hayley's dynamic as coparents was really interesting. Plus witches were way more interesting in this show and you got to really see their full potential.
I can't help but think to myself
"He's going to be so disappointed once he starts Legacies"
The Originals was truly one of a kind and no character will ever top Klaus in that universe....
Legacies was such a let down- I couldn’t watch after the first episode.
@@happygucci5094 I'm still salty they canceled it along with almost every other show they had on the network despite it being a let down. it's hard to say goodbye to that universe in particular but the fact they just destroyed almost all their shows also made me quite frustrated :/
I thought s1 and 2 of legacies were pretty solid. Especially the first half of s2. The malivore plot alone fixes one of the biggest plot holes in TVDU.
After that though……yeah it’s pretty bad. Some good stuff in s4 and the musical episode in s3 was pretty great. But yeah…….
@@jessedellross3245ima be honest if you watched all tvd then you saw so many plot hole or thing that went against lore like the fact drinking animal blood makes rippers which is why you teach them how to eat instead
@@happygucci5094 i’m sorry man, but pilots are always very different. If you quit a show after the pilot, you’re not allowed to give an opinion on it lol
You were spot on about Elijah's character basically regressing in the last two seasons. Honestly after Season 3 he just becomes very sad and quiet. Like after killing Marcel and scaring the shit out of Hayley and Hope from his Red Door, it's like a part of him dies, there's a light in his eyes that's gone. He's not as playful, his humor is gone, he has less to do, he hinders the people around him than helps. It's like you could tell he's just tired of living if that makes sense.
I definitely agree with ya that post-memory wipe and regained Elijah wasn't as civil as he used to act and overall there was a large part of him that wanted to end the ride after a thousand years plus. He's still my favorite and most entertaining character I think. Just like Stefan he wants to be good and better, but due to the blood lust he is at his true nature the red beast, like Stefan was the ripper at his core.
@@Docta_Tma It's really tragic that his greatest strength started to become his greatest flaw. Like he would do what he would always do, instinctively protect his family, but it would always end up with other people outside the family he cared about getting hurt and dying. Like everytime he has to sacrifice something in order to keep the family intact, you could see his heart breaking a little more. He's really such a complex character and his arc does make alot of sense, it's just really sad to watch him lose everything but his family and then realizing his family is going to be okay without him and just choosing something for himself for once, which is dying by his own terms.
it’s very generous to attribute the fall off of the writing as him being tired of living I love it
the fact that Marcel was SO hated during its run has always baffled me because he’s genuinely one of the most interesting characters and there’s SO many parts of his story that could’ve been heavily explored but aren’t
Klaus's monologues to Mercel have always been hard for me to watch there always so emotionally abusive. Well, I could have done worse to you so be grateful to me, I didn't hurt you worse. The majority of Klaus's speeches are narcissistic gaslighting.
He was hated??
Dang I shouldn't be surprised 🤦♀️... But also makes sense then that his character was under-explored 😔
YES!!!
@alorapendrak9752 yea but the way klaus is hes insane for marcel and really loved bro in a wild drunk way marcel know he had klaus head too elijah knew it also klaus was nuts for marcel they was family all of them
One thing I love about Vincent is how he wasn’t afraid to call out the Mikaelsons on their bullshit. He was a true pillar of the French Quarter and was even ready to tussle with Klaus when he killed one of his witches. And he didn’t hold back on laying into Elijah for murdering those four girls for a ritual.
Vincent was my favorite witch of the universe. First it was Bonnie, but Vincent rules for sure!!!
Vincent was a favourite of mine he was not afraid of them and was willing to do what was right. I can see why he and Cami were best friends and truly he would be the best leader for the city
It what saves the character imo cause let’s be honest, he’s completely pointless after s2. He fills the “witch” role. The witch the main characters go to when they need a spell but frankly that role was already filled by Freya.
Love the actor though
The scene where Hayley is yelling at Klaus to fight back, just gets me every time!! I can hear the pain in her voice, and Pheobe BODIED that scene!!!
I cry every time it’s so emotional it’s so damn good that whole scene. 😭
The Originals is at its heart a show about a dysfunctional family whose fate could have been avoided if just one of them had gone to therapy. Their patterns were all established when they were human and for over a millennium they've repeated their respective trauma cycles and re-experienced attachment issues over and over again. It tired me out a little to watch but also made the story so compelling because they acted so predictably human.
If just one of them had gone to therapy....😂😂. So true.
The Originals are for sure one of the best original series I've ever encountered. Something screams deep inside me that this could be better than The Vampire Diaries, but that's just my two cents. We can't deny the fact that this has a stellar cast of actors portraying every single one of the characters rather charmingly and seamlessly.
It IS better then TVD. In literally every way.
It’s says a lot VD started to go downhill pretty much the moment the Originals left for the spinoff.
you're not wrong or the only one who thinks this, it's MILES ahead of TVD
It was pretty surprising to me to hear that creator say TO is unwatchable and that so many fans hated TO…its easily superior.
They're both bad
Do y want to be friends with nana😂
In my personal opinion I think the originals completely blows tvd out of the water! The ensemble cast is SO talented and their characters just have more depth to me! I also love how the originals is kind of a character study of klaus mikaelson, and his character arc will forever go down as one of my favorites! I love the complicated relationships they all have with each other and how even after everything they put each other through, they’re still family.
The quality over all is better, the cinematic quality and music and the actors are brilliant and have chemistry and I understand why people like TVD more it was the first show and had more overall drama and I think both TVD and TO had their downfalls but TVD had more seasons overall.
In a way I think TVD was ruined because of the Originals. They were too big. They needed thier own show. Sucks for TVD tbh.. the first 3 seasons were amazing. The Originals should've left way before they did.
only problem is that season one is literally unbearable
Nah, tvd all the way for me. TO is so boring so far (I'm in the second season.)
@@Kruckshanks eh it has it's moments but push through that and it's much better
Yusuf who plays Vincent is so underrated like his acting really sells the character. On paper, I think most people would find Vincent's character annoying. If they had switched him out for another actor, no doubt he would be more hated. But he's just so good, he's like one of the only characters that tells off The Mikealson's to their face and they just stay silent and accept it. He has such a strong backbone of authority that everyone just accepts.
what i loved about the Originals is that unlike TVD it isnt tied to any teenage drama of love triangles and high school, so more time was devoted to the lore and the politics. the adult themes were done so well because the characters weren't annoying teenagers
I'm really glad that Yusuf Gatewood got highlighted here, because he was so freaking good in this role. He was absolutely one of the best parts of the show and it's a shame that he hasn't been in a lot of things because he's an amazing actor.
He is in Good Omens as Famine.
Also I agree, he is fantastic.
Totally fell in love with him in season 2 of the umbrella academy, I really want him to be in more things!
Agree! Really want to see him in other things because he was genuinely one of the best actors on it.
He was legit terrifying as possessed Fin and a good villain. And despite being kinda pointless after s2, his performance made the character relevant even when he didn’t have much story or reason to exist behind him
I think the actress playing Hailey got better because she was surrounded by such great actors and they have said for years that great actors can pull out the best in others
Definitely. The same is often true for singers. Hayley (Phoebe Tonkin) progressed over the years.
So many things worked for it, the cast, the city as setting, New Orleans. And a CW show with the focus on adults. ADULTS, not teenagers. Loved it, still do.
I was very disappointed in the lack of commentary on Freya's introduction. I personally think it was one of the best introductions in the entire TVDU universe and deserved a shoutout or so. It was creepy, interesting and definitely had me in suspense of knowing her true origin and character.
I truly believe there will be no character like Klaus Mikaelson. Such a well written, magnificently acted character.
The best written character in tv history
@@H1674 its based of a book!!!
@@bodigamesKlaus Book and Klaus series are very diferent from what i know.
@@MariaMartinez-bg4lb No not the originals books. The TVD books.
The originals are from the TVD books.
Books written before the shows creation and what the show is based off of.
@@bodigames Oh Yes i know its just that i heard that Klaus it's very diferent in the books, thought your right
The most heart shattering scene in all of the TVDU is when Elijah gets his memories back and realizes he had a part to play in the love of his life’s death, defending the enemy
And DG plays it to perfection.
His screaming is heartbreaking
I'm surprised FSN didn't touch on that. That performance is easily in the top 5 best scenes of the Originals. Absolutely heart shattering
Cried on that moment more than the finale
Omg yes I really cried & even Kol had to shed a tear! I’m surprised he didn’t mention that it was highlight of that season! Also that the mom had her hand on Hayley’s heart so she couldn’t just push her
This is why I understood why he chose to die as well. Hope holds grudges and the weight from killing the woman he loved and the mother of his niece, he could not live with that.
Let's be honest here the whole damn cast of this show is talented as fuck. Especially Joseph Morgan and Daniel Gillies who are mad underrated in my opinion.
I'm just going to say - no, Hayley could not in fact just throw her enemy off her. She was facing a significantly older vampire with no hybrid strength who had her pinned to a wall and who had Hayley's heart in her hand. Perhaps people miss this but that never changed, she tore off a finger, but her heart was still firmly in her opponent's hand. She had only one moment to act while her enemy was stunned (keep in mind vampires recover from pain when its enough for them to feel very fast). Klaus had a wooden stake wedged through his spine. The only real issue on a mechanical level there was the instantaneous burst of flame, something we saw before in that season but which wasn't consistent with earlier TVD universe where you would burn for several seconds before bursting a flame and the flame took a few seconds to kill you. That said it was a kinda lame death.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment because I had similar thoughts.
When space ninja said that shit, I was like did you actually watch the show.
Even his Inadu comment. She wants to posses Hope so she can live again, it's not as pointless as he claims.
also when he says about how now everyone wants a piece of the originals but if you look at those challenging them they are all some of strongest in the universe with a few weak links
season 1 is the originals picking a fight with people who they have beaten before
season 2 is two of the world's strongest witches vs the first vampires so makes sense
season 3 is originals vs the first non originals so people who aren't their equals but have nearly just as much experience as them plus witches and then everyone klaus ever wronged
and then season 4 an 5 is basically just the hollow which in terms of lore is a witch infused with so much power they created a supernatural species and went off the deep end of ego.
Yep, if she pushed that vampire outside while the vampire was holding her heart, the heart would just go with her
Daniel Gillies hated the way Elijah died. He has spoken very passionately about it on a fan covention type thing. It's on youtube and I think it's worth a watch, because it's absolutely hilarious how outraged he is 😂
I know exactly what you’re talking about and it was hilarious😂
“I didn’t get blown up at the end of season 3 of Saving Hope for this” - Daniel Gillies, probably
"I am laughing because I had no f*cking reason to die.
Absolutely no f*cking reason whatsoever to die.
Dumbest f*cking death of all time.
Your loss you f*cking morons"
- Daniel Gillies - Elijah Mikaelson
xD
It’s so funny how many TVDUniverse main character DESPISE the their ending or just how their respective series ended. Kat Graham, Ian Somerhalder, Daniel Gillies, Joseph Morgan, also Paul Wesley (he wanted to be killed off but he didn’t like the ending at all) and just how many also requested to be written off cuz they just had enough but yet laugh ab how terrible it was the end. 😂
Originally the brother's duo death was supposed to be given to Steffan and Damon but because of the Toxic Fandom's obsession over Damon and Elena, they gave them a happy ending and passed the deaths off to Klaus and Elijah.
"Are there any more inopportune deaths you'd like to wave in my face?"
"Give me a month. I'll get you a list."
Hands down one of my favourite lines of dialogue in a TV show ever.
That’s what makes JM and DG do great in their roles. You have no problem believing they are brothers.
i think we can all agree that joseph morgan is an outstanding actor and klaus wouldve never worked if it wasnt for him like he acted the hell out of klaus character
I bet julie plec give the role right away after joseph first audition
you forgot to show that the monologue in season 3 was specifically designed by Klaus to make sure they didn't kill him so his siblings' lives could be saved. it was a sacrifice in which he riled them up enough so that when he said that his death was a small price to pay for what he had done to them all in order to save his family. It was a change from how the seasons usually ended with Klaus on top due to sacrificing everyone else.
Absolutely spectacular..
Damn, Rebekah being written out was really seamless. I didn’t know it was because she was trying to work less.
And “filler episodes” were seamless to me also just because I like the characters, maybe it wasn’t necessary but we definitely got to know them well.
It is Rebekah Mikaelson.
Yeah I wouldn’t have even considered them filler episodes per se. sometimes we just got to see what a specific character was up to for that day or what goal a character was working towards which I personally think was good since they were working with so many characters and had to do 22 eps.
I personally thought the way she was written out in s3 was bad. That’s when it became pretty obvious to me.
Her departure also hurts the show a little cause the trio of Klaus/Elijah/Rebecca is why originals got made in the first place. Their dynamic is amazing. With her gone the show loses that.
Don’t get me wrong, the show is still great throughout and JM and DG were great enough to cover for it but compare the show with Rebecca as a regular to it without her
There is a noticeable gap
@@jessedellross3245 sure ofc, it’s sucks to see her go. I would rather her be apart of it but the actress didn’t really leave them a choice. They didn’t write her out in a spiteful way, it was a noble exit. Usually you can tell when someone’s written off for a reason, I’m saying it’s cool I had no idea there was a reason.
@@KiaraWilliamsX I’m not judging Claire at all. I understand why she left and respect it. I also respect that she was still committed to the show and character and was willing to come back as often as she did.
I’m just saying the show was hurt by her absence. I mean it’s called The Originals. The show is literally about this family, not just two members of it. All of them.
It’s why Im ok with seasons 4 and 5. Cause there’s more of the family in it and that is always great
I absolutely ADORE Rebekah, so I am pretty sad that she couldn't have full arcs with her actress's absence, but I'm also eternally grateful that her actress didn't want to leave us hanging. Her limited participation still gave us SO much
Klaus only ever knew how to be dysfunctional in his affections so the fact that he sometimes handled Hailey better than he treated his family was impressive. I think the thing that stood out between the characters was that Klaus had genuine respect for Hailey as the mother of his child but also because of how much other crap she dealt with not having a family then being the alpha of her pack, and how she fit in with the family so well. It was a weird dynamic but it was also complex yet genuine.
The only thing I disagreed with is when you said Elijah was hope’s closet uncle. From her perspective she barely knew the guy. During the time jump of season 3 to 4, he was asleep because of Marcel’s venom. Therefore, didn’t see hope grow up to whatever age she was in the 4th season. Then Elijah gets his memory erased from season 4 to 5, so they don’t interact at all until he remembers everything. Then he is partially responsible for Hailey‘s death., and hope is pissed at him for it. From hope’s perspective, he is a guy she barely knows that had a hand in killing her mother. Arguably, I would say marcel is her closet uncle.
Marcel is technically her brother. Kol, Elijah, Finn and had he lived Henrik are her uncles.
kol is Hope’s closest uncle because In legacies , she mentions him a lot including in one episode I think she went to visit him
Technically Marcel is an older brother.
@@pinkkitana2468they dead at that point
@@rahbeeuhBut also uncle because he married Rebekah. Immortal families are weird with relationships. The fact Klaus adopted Marcel but they also shared a love interest in Camille then Marcel goes on to marry his adoptive aunt.
I am simple man, never saw TVD or The Originals, but spent 6 hours watching the two series' analysis videos and now I can say Klaus is one my fav character of all time.
Joseph’s voice really puts the cherry on top for his performance. It doesn’t matter what he’s saying, you just wanna listen.
Another guy with a similar voice is Jeremy irons. Look him up..you’re welcome.
thats so true!
People have to look up SCAR?????
Do people really not know who Jeremy Irons is? I guess no one watched Lion King lol 😂
@@rethsen8146 Short reminder that not everyone's from an English speaking country. I could recognize Scar's German voice actor Thomas Fritsch (may he rest in peace) everywhere, but have no clue how Jeremy Irons sounds.
@@Taleneki Fair point.
I always joke with my friends that The Originals is basically what happens when you cast some HBO level actors in a cw show. Joseph Morgan and David Gilles are way too good for this show!
I'd have liked to see The Originals on HBO but then there'd be similarities between it and True Blood
yeah
Yeah, I feel like people don’t realize how important consistency is when having different actors portray the same character. Like, I’m a big fan of Chinese dramas and in one of my favorites, the two leads body swap (twice). And I cannot stress how much those scenes would not have worked if the two actors hadn’t captured each other’s characters so well. It’s so immersion breaking when an actor portraying a character with previous characterization can’t capture it-and Esther’s character is a prime example of that.
Shot in the dark here, are you talking about "Love Between Fairy and Devil"? Because a friend of mine was literally waxing poetic about the performance of the body-swapping in that show, right before I watched this video; and it was the first thing I thought of when FSN started talking on the subject.
@@YourFaceisPretty Somehow I didn’t see you comment until now, but YES!!! I adore that drama, it’s one of my favorites of all time, and the body-swap scenes always make me cackle. The actors do *such* a good job playing each other’s characters. I highly recommend watching it.
I think the originals is way better in being a vampire show than the vampire diaries ever was. Also this show felt like it was made for the audience that felt in love with the vampire diaries in season 2/3
This!!!..
One of the first examples where the spin off was way better than the main Tv show.
Not really.
For example, the 90's had "Xena".
And there were probably similar situations earlier.
Which doesn't take away from the quality of "The Originals".
@rachit1042 I agree 100%
Angel
Waaayyyy better, I watched it exclusively bc around season 6 or 7 of TVD was on my last nerve lol
i will never forget marcels speech on episode 1. he immediately commanded my attention as a character worthy enough to join the mikaelson ranks especially closing out with his "IM THE KING" line
the “IM THE KING” line gives me chills every time. the huskiness of his voice, the look on his face, the silence that follows. ugh so good
Marcel was a great threat to Klaus - he was both attractive, very charismatic and compassionate- all things Klaus wasn’t. And Klaus knew it. Every time Marcel flashed his beautiful smile 🥰🥰🥰.
@@Lafemmefutilefirst of all, klaus is attractive, let’s get that straight💀 second he’s also charismatic and he’s very compassionate TOO compassionate even lol
@@Lafemmefutile now we not gonna let that attractiveness line slide and you know that lmaoooo
I hated Klaus. Actually I started to see the Originais because I was intrigued by hist meeting with Cami. The Chemistry in that scene was so great that I started to see the Originals, but I got really said when cami died.
Watched it as a teenager and it marked me. Some scenes still live in my head and have rlly changed what I look for in some TV shows, some action scenes, some villains... I'm so glad to see someone able to explain just what was so special and winning about this show. To this day, Klaus is an unmatched character as are Marcel, Hayley and Rebekah. S1-S3 had me on the edge of my seat and it was soo dramatic but in a way that was totally immersive.
I'm so sad that the community was so foul to Cami's actress. I loved her chemistry with Klaus (never cared for Klaroline either) and I loved how she was able to humble his enormous ego. Fans ruin everything😢
I agree completely. I thought Cami's relationship with Klaus was so interesting and they had great chemistry. I never understood the Klaroline love.
Fanatics do tend to destroy what they claim to love.
I don't like cami but unlike some, I didn't b itch about it
Cause she's a nobody to me
Klaus and cami were everything like their love was so pure. Tvd fans want the toxic ships always like remember how they basically made the writers gaslight the fandom w fan service only to get Delena endgame 😭? Klaroline is just as toxic but without the buildup Damon and Elena had. Klamille should have been endgame
Fanatical ship obsessed fans are exactly what shows like tvd attract.
So glad he made this video, in my opinion the Originals is so much better than TVD. The dialogue in certain scenes had a gravitas not commonly found on CW shows, especially and not limited to its predecessor TVD. Even the acting was pretty solid, Gillies and Morgan in particular, there were no real weak links. Moreover, the story just felt more sophisticated and mature, possibly because we were so used to the relationship drama filled TVD but nevertheless it’s first 3 seasons are some of the most solid television the CW has put out and no one can change my mind.
I absolutely agree with you the originals is a great show and better than the vampire diaries
“This city would have seen you dead, but I will have it your home, and every soul who wishes you harm will be struck down, just as sure as my blood runs in your veins. You will return to me.”
I will have the moment I heard this quote forever ingrained in my mind. It was perfection.
❤❤
@@t30d0r4 s1 ep22
The disappointment I felt when I found out Matt Davis is the way he is was massive. I personally ADORE Alaric, his story in the TVD is so tragic by constantly losing every woman he loved, his friendship with Damon despite the fact he killed his wife, how he became a parent to Elena and Jeremy when they lost everyone in their family, and how amazing of a father he became to Lizzie and Josie made me love him. It was such a shame to find out the actor isn’t the greatest person, he’s kind of a creep and made the girls in both TVD and Legacies pretty uncomfortable.
P.S Klaus finding Camille dead next to him after finally confessing his love and feeling genuinely happy in a long time WAS THE MOST HEARTBREAKING SHIT I’VE EVER SEEN. I actually really liked Camille and I thought she was really good for Klaus. I don’t claim the TVD fandom toxicity.
Yeah
I really liked Alaric, especially how he seems like a protective mentor figure
Learning He's the opposite in reality is sad
I actually genuinely liked Cami but I didn’t like her as a love interest. I preferred her as being a therapist to him and then of course I would’ve liked her to be a loyal friend. But I didn’t like that she died and especially how she died it was sad but I was definitely more sad for Klaus bcuz he’s literally been through everything and when he’s finally able to take the next step and let himself fall in love he’s then utterly screwed over with her tragic death twice. So messed up.
Oh noooo someone's not a commie how disappointing 😢
@@hughmungus431 Threatening to shoot people and making public racist remarks to his coworkers is okay in your books? Stop showing your whole ass bruh
Phoebe and Claire will always hold a special place in my heart bc they fr gave me the best childhood with H20 and then made my teen years good with the originals to.
I can't believe people voted in your poll when they hadn't seen both shows. I think, for sure, the Originals would win in a poll consisting only of people who had seen them both. It's genuinely the best show the CW has ever created, I couldn't agree with you more!
Yes!
it has a higher IMDb score so definitely!
exactly
I mean, you do know the first 5 seasons of supernatural still exist…right? or the first 2 season of Arrow.
Originals was perfect
I remember being so surprised when Klaus appeared in TVD cause he really stands out for being so greatly written AND acted, but also because, as you kinda pointed out, he is probably the only one in TVD universe which is written with consistency. The writers just really understood every aspect of him and it just reflects on how much he stands out in comparison to other characters in the series (also props to Joseph Morgan for playing him perfectly), like I don't believe there's anyone who has seen the show and doesn't love Klaus.
I will _NEVER_ understand the way that so many people will fail to establish in their minds the clear line necessary between fiction versus reality and will so rabidly misdirect/redirect or project their dislike for fiction onto the actors and actresses who are literally just doing their jobs. *SMH.*
It's disgusted me since literal childhood, back when the Star Wars prequel trilogy first started coming out in cinemas.
Look, I actually was a Klaroline shipper, and I freaking adored Cami & her dynamic with Klaus even _in spite_ of myself.!! And the whole entire foundation of Klaroline being that they are immortals and don't have to be each other's first or only loves in order to still be there for each other in the end makes it work, plus .. sometimes life is just like that, when things don't work out the way you want, sometimes that opens the door for something else coming in completely unexpectedly on its heels that you could not have predicted at the time; sometimes, shite changes. There is literally nothing wrong with this. And it does not necessarily mean it has to at all demean or take anything away from what came before that, it just means that the trajectory in the end might not look anything at all like anyone thought it would beforehand, and some people have more trouble coping with that than others do. I guess.
( But I also was no longer really actively engaging with the fandom, overall, by the time The Originals was going. I was still watching the shows, sooner or later, but I wasn't actively engaging with the fandom surrounding the universe anymore. So I kinda just happily existed in my own little bubble, alone with my own thoughts/feelings. Lolll 🤷♀️ ^-^ )
This just reminded me how little time was Klaus actually able to spend with Hope. First they had to give her to Rebecca, then he was imprisoned by Marcel for 5 years and then he had to stay away from her for another 7 years and THEN he died.
I know right! That always pissed me of
I think The Originals did a good job of having complex characters who are- in a lot of ways- the villains of this universe, and not trying to make them 'good'. This family has done horrible things, a lot of which they feel no remorse for, but we still care because even 'monsters' have family and hopes and demons to work through. They're not black or white, and we don't need to them to be the 'good guys' to care about them. They're bad people, and the show owns that and develops on that. In TVD, characters like Damon and Stefan have done horrible things in the past, but the show distorts things so that the viewers are supposed to believe they're the good guys all of a sudden. It just felt like a cop out. Damon has killed a lot if people, but he gets to grow old with Elena with very little push back. I guess I just think TO had characters that guided the story, but in TVD it felt like the writers were forcing the characters into unnatural directions.
I always felt that while the Originals were capable of doing good things they were never “good guys”. In TVD we were just supposed to accept that Stefan and Damon were good guys suddenly and if someone tried to hold them accountable for all the awful things they had done in the past that person was usually presented in a negative light. The Originals owned that the main characters were messed up people with a dark history and somehow still made me root for them.
@@kunglaoshat1250 the show tells us they are 'the bad guys'. Every time the family left the city, there was more peace and less bloodshed.
Yeah TVD also redeems klaus in such an unbelievable way. At least the originals tried to keep him villainous
I have to say immortal families have weird relationships where you need flow chart to understand it. Klaus fosters Marcel, who marries Rebekah, who is his foster aunt. Marcel fosters Davina, who marries Kol, who is Marcel’s foster uncle so then Davina’s foster great uncle. Hope is Klaus’ daughter so she’s Marcel’s foster sister but also uncle through Rebekah and Davina is her foster niece but also aunt through Kol. Also weird how Klaus and Marcel are foster father and son but they shared a love interest in Camille. And don’t even get me started on TVD’s characters relationship.
The energy thing from the body swapping was so true. The actress who played Rebecca was perfect she did an awesome job playing Rebecca like Claire did. Its why I didnt buy Kol, he was okay but too different to Nathaniels take.
The fact that after everything that it was Klaus that Hayley looked at before dying, and Klaus crying over Hayley reading her letters, ended their story and relationship perfectly. I do like the theory that they’re platonic soulmates.
His eulogy to her in the woods is so heartbreaking. He loved her in his own way.
His Little Wolf
Sometimes you may not workout as partners but may actually be the best of friends.
I will never get over this but the fact that Klaus witnesses Hayley die twice without able to do anything, haunts me.
I will defend Cami until the day I die. Such an underrated character that was underused because of rabid, delusional shippers yelling at the writers about how we all allegedly hated her. Also, Leah Pipes didn't request to be written off. In an interview she said she was informed the character was dying. So, the showrunners saw the years of body shaming and death threats and decided to reward those nasty people with her on screen death. It was messed up.
This this this!!!
Simply because they wanted Klaus to be with Caroline when they were on different shows. Caroline was 17-year-old girl, Camille was an adult woman.
@@emilysullivan3875So Klaus would basically be a pedo for liking Caroline then and y’all constantly hype him up. Have him be chasing after a 17 yr old boy and y’all would’ve had an issue.
absolutely hate Klaroline and Camille deserved so much more than to be collateral damage to torment Klaus. her character brought out the best in him in some scenes and Leah did a great job in the role. so messed up that she got so much hate due to delusional shippers
Agreed. Camille was a lovely character. That scene with her and Klaus in which he tells her he doesn't want to look at her forever from behind a glass wall still brings tears to my eyes.
I felt so bad for Davina man I didn't really like her either but I didn't expect them to all be so heartless towards her and just let her die like that. I also felt bad for Kol, since he had finally become somewhat decent due to finally finding love...
love the way you point out it’s easier to be feared than loved for klaus’ character. mikael only ever taught him fear and i think his fathers abuse towards him was the real reason that he felt estranged from his siblings even before becoming a hybrid and learning he’s not mikael’s son, but that just made it worse of course.
Regarding Elijah deciding to die with klaus, I totally agree that it felt out of character and not at all like something Elijah would do. I feel like that decision was just the writers preparing for Legacies and if Daniel Gillies didn’t sign on for that show, there would be no in universe explanation that would make any sense for Elijah not to be heavily involved in Hope’s life. I’ve never seen Legacies, but that’s my theory
i’ve always seen it as elijah wanting to die for that “dance” with hayley. you can tell when hope tells him that hayley awaits him in the afterlife in the penultimate episode, he has a realisation, that’s why he wants the hollow in him and to be killed. to be with hayley, he doesn’t say it because that’s not him. basically, elijah is a simp.
glad that daniel didn't show up in legacies, that show is terrible, unfortunally klaus appeared to give a message to hope, he appeared on a bed sheet, is the most awful thing i ever saw, but was little emotional see him again
I have to disagree. I think it made since both in story and meta wise.
It was obvious DG as well as JM were done with the characters. Which is fair both had played the parts for almost a decade at that point. So it made sense in that respect. But Elijah mission was complete. Klaus had been redeemed. And he wanted to reunite with Haley.
You see it on his face when hope tells him what Haley told her about that dance. You see the wheels turning in his head. He’s ready to move on
@@leptospirocathe first two seasons of legacies are pretty solid. Especially the first half of s2. Season 3 is……yeah it’s bad. And 4 isn’t much better.
Klaus scene I thought was great cause JM was great. It just sucks cause they had rush things that he couldn’t be there in person. But it was good for what it was
Klaus and Elijah will always and forever be two of my favorite television characters ever. The way that Elijah chooses to leave the earth WITH Klaus? After hundreds and hundreds of years always trying to save his soul?? And choosing to do it due to the love for his brother and his own feelings of tiredness from living for so long??? The love I have for those two is so unmatched. I’m so happy you covered this show! Despite the less than great final two seasons 😂
I so agree! I cried when they died; their brotherly love and faithfulness to one another was deeply moving. Elijah had completed his mission to protect his brother and Klaus was breaking his cycle of violence.
Me too I love that last scene
The funny thing is.... I actually expected so much worse from the final season, and I was pleasantly surprised that it actually was better than I expected it to be, even if it also wasn't particularly perfect. It's interesting how much perspective and/or expectations can color our reception if things sometimes.
isn’t half of the vampire population supposed to die now that Klaus and Elijah are dead??
@@SM-gq3wx I don't recall if they found a way to unlink the originals from their sired lines or not.
I just wanna say, Klaus' speech to the compelled cop at Camille's request is one of the greatest quoutes ( Kanye Voice) OF ALL TIME
The Originals is one of the only shows that stays in the back of mind, for some reason. I could be doing anything and suddenly find myself quoting the show or thinking about how badass that family was. It is one of the few examples of a sequel not only being good, but being better than the source. Best CW show (and one of the best WB shows) by far.
Orphan Black is one of my all time favorite shows ever. Tatiana’s Maslany is an absolute powerhouse. The best part is when she’s playing one of the clones playing a different clone. 500/10
1000% agree Orphan Black is amazing!
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Omg yes!! That show is so good!!
Her acting is out of this world
Omg yess
An excellent example of how to do a spinoff right. I can't wait to dive in and hear Dylan's myriad thoughts over the next three hours!
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Definitely! Of the three shows _The Originals_ was my fave. I'm not a big fan of romantic storylines and ships so TO was my jam! _Legacies_ was a disappointment tho
Klaus is such a good and complex character since he was in tvd. He’s so well written and Joseph Morgan is TOO good in this role.
Just came to let you know this video essay convinced me to watch the show, and less than a month later i'm proud to announce that i've finished all of it and i loved it.
Also i agree that elijah's arc gave me whiplash in season 5 and it's so dumb that they killed him off. He would've absolutely stayed by hope's side
Klaus is the most complex CW character to ever grace this earth.
He is genuinely fascinating in every single way.
Yusef Gatewood also played Ray Chestnut in the Umbrella Academy and he was good there too! Ray never gets a lot of screentime but Yusef is really good at making Ray feel like the confused husband whos brought into this superpowered world and both sceptical of it while also infinitely fascinated
He is also one of the four horsemen in Good Omens!
His character of Vincent was so good!!! Everytime he lays into the originals is iconic!! Goosebumps when that scene comes when he tells them, they have lived for centuries, it's their turn to give up some life. (horrible paraphrase.) It was just so good!!
@@kims8752 ooh i forgot he was in it, he was so excellent in that show!
and in both shows he got in trouble by group of characters that one of them is name Klaus😭😭
the ending is actually kind of heartbreaking for Klaus, Haley, and Hope. I mean, everything Haley wanted basically never came true considering Hope ended up an orphan at the end. The thought of that being the conclusion for Haley and Hope just makes me very sad.
In the film Moonlight, the three actors that played the main character (each played him at different times in his life) worked together to make sure the performances were consistant and that the audience would believe they're watching a true progression of one person. I don't think cw shows would ever put that much effort into prepping actors to play the same character.
A love Niklaus, he's such a complex caracter. The person capable of everything to protect his family is also the person who is constantly hurting his family. And a love that, even after he becomes a father and discovers a whole new level of love and devotion, he continues to make the same mistakes. The man is a thousand years old, a thousand years of paranoia, enemies and death. A love that giving him a daughter and a family that will stand by him and her doesn't "fix" his issues. But you know that when the time arrives, he will sacrifice himself for said family and daughter. The man is iconic, completely unhinged and full of problems, but iconic nonetheless.
As for my biggest criticism of the show: the lore being broken and rewritten over and over... honestly, that is the most consistent pattern in Julie Plec writing. It is exhausting and makes you want to give up many times, but at least The Originals had amazing characters. Unlike Legacies who only had the weakest point of Julie Plec writing: broken lore and weak boring characters.
Ps* We all know that Klaus, Hayley and Elijah dying in the end is just because they wanted to milk the TVD universe even more with Legacies. Hope wouldn't be doing shit in that show if even one of them was alive. Hell, is already unforgivable how both Rebekah and Freya show up like once in that dumpster fire of a show. Legacies can only exist if the people who loved Hope the most were dead. It's very disrespectful but we all know how the industry works.
i have no rational explanation about how much i love klaus
Phoebe probably was also a bit tired of the show, since she never had any breaks like Claire Holt.
I watched legacies and it such a different show compared to tvd and originals like it didn't feel like they were in the same universe. Honestly it felt a like Disney Channel show for preteens but they were allowed to curse and talk abt sex LMAOOO
@@aahana4931 same here, i think the writing done for Klaus’s character was phenomenal but i also think Joseph Morgan embodied him so well that it really made you fall in love with the character that much more. i will forever be a klaus apologist🙏 that man can do no wrong in my eyes
Why do u love the fact that he hurts his family? Y’all really love abusive white vampires
I loved Camille's character and was always disturbed by the amount of hatred Camille/Leah Pipes got. I felt Camille was a nurturer and that her character was crucial in Klaus' character development. She brought out the softer, more vulnerable side to Klaus. People acted like only one woman could be critical to his development. 😂 I also really loved Davina as a character and never understood why she was so hated. 😂 I liked that she was a formidable foe for the Originals throughout the series.
Agreed I adored Camille so much
camille is so cute and has a right to behave the way she does bc realistically, we would act just like her if we were in her shoes. ppl just hate her bc they wanted klaus to be with caroline which i get but somehow klamille was way better written than klaroline.
yess her dynamic w klaus was one of the best things in the show
they understood eachother in such a special way
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Yes, she's so wholesome
I wish you had talked a little more about Vincent. He was a standout character to me especially in later seasons. I didn't like Davina either but I really loved Cami and I can't believe that fans were so horrible to her. I hated how the show ended and that plot hole made me feel worse. I'd love to forget the last two seasons and that the whole of legacies exists lol
I think the storyline of how Klaus treated his siblings showed how and why they fell out of power as a whole and explained why essentially no one feared their power outside of vampire diaries. Klause had them all if not most of them locked away for hundreds of years. When Elijah got back to Mistic Falls, non of the vampires knew who he was and were oblivious that he couldnt die. They never heard of Klaus, the possibility of a hybrid, nothing. Eventually, they just werent around to make people fearful or protect one another. Then once Esther returned, instead of keeping her family together at their strongest she tried to kill them and revealed their biggest weakness, that they can be killed by the remaining with any remaining white oak. Defeating her helped them get closer but by loosing Cole and Fynn along with their sire lines, it was open season for anyone who had an issue with an Original or their line. It made sense that the oldest vampires would battle it out. When it was all said and done, the only lines remaining were Rebekkas and Klause, although, I'm not sure if cole can start a new line now that he's back in his body. So technically there's 3 of the original 5.
Thank you for lauding the cast. They are so, so iconic. Especially the originals. Joseph Morgan is just spectacular. He gives Klaus this just this sense of grandiosity, this feeling of being *ancient,* while Daniel Gillies gives the same sense but *suave,* somehow. He gives this almost slinking panther feeling. Suave and beautiful on the outside, vicious and violent underneath. Joseph Morgan effortlessly goes from grandiose speech to ripping heads off and it still all feels like Klaus. Claire Holt absolutely does the same with Rebekah, but gives this almost teenaged, whiny quality to her that constantly reminds you that she was just a girl once, who wanted just to grow up and have a family of her own. And she's willing to kill to get it.
Marcel was a great addition to this set of characters. Charles Michael Davis gives Marcel this sense of attempting to live up to the grand nature of the originals and failing, but without seeming like he's actually inferior. He knows who he is and what he wants and how to get it, but he has a humbleness that the originals lack-that they can't seem to actually drum up within themselves.
I love these characters and actors so much.
I like that you point out Elijah nature under the surface. He tries to be noble and honorable but his true nature is that of a predator. It’s why the fact he wears suits is so important to his character.
He literally dresses up suave and sophisticated to hide the darkness inside him and the dark thoughts and instincts he carries
Agreed, agreed, except for Marcel not living up to the Originals, I actuaclly think he surpasses them. Exactly because he is so much more aware of himself and his weaknesses, because of the way that he treats others and because of his values. He has this human factor to him that the other kind of lost
Honestly I think it's a shame that Cami and Caroline never met, in my opinion they would've gotten along very well.
yeah and it could have taken some heat out off the actress
Re: the Orphan Black shout-out, I saw the actress who played Siobhan on a panel telling a story about Tatiana Maslany's own mother finding herself forgetting that her daughter was on-screen during certain scenes, because her acting was just so good that she essentially didn't recognize her daughter when a scene with one of her other characters ended. Incredible actress.
When her own mother was mesmerized that's TALENT! Tat is so TALENTED! That's ACTING! (Not yelling just capitalized for emphasis)
Tatiana Maslany is MIND-BENDINGLY amazing in Orphan Black. When all the clones are talking to each other it's so bafflingly think this is all the same actor. The loungeroom dance scene was jaw dropping.
@@GoldenOwlEvents what an iconic scene! I know the word "iconic" gets thrown around so liberally but that scene is worth the description!
Everything you are saying about Elijah's character in the finale stretch is true-buut he chose to erase his memory of his family specifically _BECAUSE_ of how much he knew that he would never be able to abandon his family even though he literally physically *HAD* to walk away from them in order to keep them alive, and even though it absolutely would make sense if Elijah transferred his loyalty to Hope[ after Klaus was gone] .. the thing is that Hope doesn't really need him to, Hope has so many other people in her life and family still, but Elijah has always been Klaus's one singular constant in life and Klaus' biggest fear was always to be utterly alone so how in the world[ even for Hope] could Elijah realistically have ever lived with himself IF - _even _*_after_*_ Klaus had finally actually became a decent man[ just like Elijah had always wanted and seen the potential for in Klaus]_ - Elijah had ever actually let Klaus die alone . . Just because Klaus was finally willing to try and face/brave that loneliness/aloneness specifically for the benefit of his daughter? .
Like, do I *like* that they both died in the end? NO. Did I *want* to see Elijah go out that way? Also, NO! Buuut I thought it *_did_* actually make sense, even if I do completely understand why it was either hit or miss for other viewers.
But maybe that's just me, and my own weird way of looking at it & trying to rationalize it away so that I can bear it, or something! 🤷♀️🤷🤷♀️ 🤷🏻♂️ 😁 Loll
The minute they were introduced in TVD, I just knew they were getting a spinoff, this family is truly so INSANE, yet TOP TIER. Who else is doing it like the Mikaelsons? No one.
I will never forgive the writers for not utilizing Nathaniel Buzolic to the fullest potential. He is such a good actor and they could have made Kol a bigger character in the series and given him more to do than what they did what a waste of potential
I always thought it was so sad that he ended up as a vampire and not a witch, Kol really deserved that.
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Yeah I feel like Kol and Rebekah were more of the chaotic and interesting mikaelsons and they were both shafted throughout the entire show with on and off appearances throughout each season so they weren't really a part of the main plot
This Spin-Off definitely surpassed TVD, absolutely fantastic!
i love how much credit you have given to the actors - they are iconic and they are all one of a kind
Finally someone points out nina‘s great job to Portrait two different characters in one show. Even when the two characters imitated each other it had a different color to it. Amazing ❤
Portray.
Wdym? That's all anyone talks about. Not that it's bad, she definitely deserves her applause, but it's not an unpopular or underrated opinion
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@@zvezdoblyatI think underrated in respect to hollywood
@@annushankar3032 but no one gives a fuck about TV shows in Hollywood. A more popular show than TVD is modern family, but I doubt any of those actors got awards for their performance
It breaks my heart that ppl hated Camille. I actually really liked her as a character. And her chemistry w klaus was unmatched imo. I literally cried during both her deaths I did not want her to die. I wanted to see more of her soooo bad
Same here. The disdain was so uncalled for
I wasn't a fan of the character. She was a female version of Matt from VD imo. I liked Arora for Klaus' love interest better than anyone...
Exactly i don't understand the camille hate, she had amazing chemistry with Klausand i loved them together !! like they couldn't see that?
Same I loved Cami so much her character was such a key part of Klaus is development into a better human being
@@thandondlovu5392 I wouldn't call Klaus a human being. He's a being tho 😁 semantics. I agree with you in that Cami was key in Klaus' betterment.
I think one of the weird things this show reveals about the overall lore of the world is that both the vampires and werewolves were created by a witch’s curse. The Hollow is not just a non-threatening orb of blue that compels people to kill children, she is also the origin of the werewolf curse. Similarly, the vampires were created by witch magic. Therefore witches should be the most powerful, since they’ve created immortals, vampires, and werewolves. And Hope is a living witch with two very powerful witch spells placed on her.
i love hearing about a show that you actually liked for the most part. beating up and endlessly talking about bad shows can be very tiring to listen to and it’s so prevalent. it’s much harder to talk positively about something than negativity and i really appreciate the effort
What you said about this cast is so true. They are utterly captivating. They elevate the material they are given and created such complex yet beloved iconic characters. The thing I always loved the most about it is just scenes where the Original family actors share the screen and get to play. Their dynamic is perfection.
Absolutely! I felt their family love and torture very deeply. They were excellent actors. Tragic characters that get you in the guts. Very much real!
I am glad you talked about vincent griffith. He is slept on. The actors that plays him is so ridiculously good. Griffith on player is boring af but the actor breaths life into him and made him one of my favorites.
He is completely pointless after s2. Yet the actor takes nothing and still manages to give a strong performance. Him as possessed Fin is legit terrifying.
It’s sad he didn’t get a better sendoff honestly. His story ending with becoming basically a sperm donor for fraya and her wife………..yeah
I loved him so much tbh, he made Vincent so likeable, he’s also great in s2 of Umbrella Academy
The body hopping is an issue we saw with Matt Davis playing Klaus initially. Even though I’m pretty sure this is moreso on the writers not being quite sure how Klaus would act and behave, Davis played Klaus veeeery differently than what we saw with Morgan. Later on, Trevino plays Klaus too, when he’s in Tyler’s body, and you still don’t get the feeling that this is the Klaus we know in there. They should’ve done what they did in Deathly Hallows and have the original actor play the character as written and have the others emulate the performance.
They didn’t have the chops to do what Joseph did
@@DisabledDoll See, I would agree, if the writing was consistent. Watch the scenes where Ric is possessed near the end of S02, he actually isn’t doing a bad job, he’s just way too inconsistent with who Klaus is in the end. Simply check the dialogue, exclude any acting choices, the majority of it doesn’t seem like things Klaus would say at all.
49:26 that's why, as short as it is, I love the Captain America cameo in Thor: The Dark World. Chris Evans had to come on set and play Loki, who is pretending to play captain America. It's a short clip but I love it because you can see that Evans studied Tom Hiddleston's speech patterns and stuff.
Also Freaky Friday does the body thing and technically I'd argue it's a bit different just because the actresses don't necessarily always embody the other, it does challenge Lindsey Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis to act different from their ages and that can be hard to do. JLC is convincing as a teenager trapped in a middle aged woman's body, LL is convincing as a weary middle aged woman trapped in a teenager's body. I'd argue it was a harder role for Lohan because where Curtis could pull from her life experience having been a teenager, Lohan was still young so she had to do the extra work of figuring out how to play an older woman trapped in a teen body.
Anyway body swap plotlines give me great pleasure when executed properly
Edit: meant to add that's also why impersonations are impressive when done insanely well because you can learn to speak like a person SURE but what really sells it is the mannerisms, speech patterns, how you move your face. I saw a video of an older man doing impressions and that man looks nothing like Patrick Stewart but when he switches to playing him I could swear he looked exactly like Stewart because of how he moved his face. It's crazy
Regarding Marcel, I’m not so fond of how he was treated by his adoptive family. He basically was “rescued” from slavery only to endure even more abuse (Elijah killing him). It was really only Klaus and Rebekah who viewed him as a member of their family. That being said his relationship with the latter was also very creepy, idc what the fandom says it’s just weird to get with someone who’s technically your aunt. But I think it was good for him to survive in the end.
True, somehow since tvd Rebekah is the only character who never had a good ship going. They could never pair her well at all, which is funny considering ships are bread and butter for these shows.
I think it would make more sense if she was daggered at the time and was raised when Marcel was an adult.
Yeah and the fact that when they met Marcel was only 10 and Rebekah was like 800 is crazy😭 and even if they’re going by when she was turned I’m pretty she was between the ages of like 18-23ish so it’s still weird😭
@@precious6727lol I didn’t know that...but literally all the rships in tvd universe are creepy, there’s no getting around it...except maybe for legacies but I haven’t watched that show so I can’t be sure of it
As an Aussie, they make me so proud. You don't realise they're Australian which means they were able to pull off their accents so well. 🥳🇦🇺
Phoebe's accent slipped at times, when she said certain words like "no" or when she said"I slept with a complete psycho" in the first episode, I think I only noticed that bc I knew already that she's Australian.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Phoebe Tonkins American accent is on par with Keanu Reeves English accent in Dracula. Being unable to do a non-regional "Hollywood" American accent, the easiest English accent in the world is embarrassing for any actor and shows the lack of talent. My ears bled every time she tried and failed that accent and I am neither American nor Australia.
@@notnow6946 get mad lol
@@notnow6946as an American, I didn't even know she wasn't American until the end of this video
Hayley’s American accent was AWFUL lol
My experience with tvd was really good, but the moment I found out about The originals, I became obsessed with it, the fact that I didn't even finished tvd because i was so into The originals speak for itself how much I preferred it over tvd✨✨
Julie Plec turned the last season of the Originals into a Legacies back-door pilot and I'll never forgive her for that.