Note that this route may be imperfect. If you have any suggestions for us - just like with the no-keyboard run - those are welcome! I know there are a lot of unanswered questions about this theory, too. I’ve tried to answer some - see for yourself in the comments! (e.g. How do you get coins? Early game, we sell spare chest loot, and in HM when we have to buy stuff, we just have to be very careful with our limited supply.) (We were betting on Tax Collector but apparently he doesn’t work despite other quest NPCs working???) There should be enough money to buy everything necessary, though we might need to skip some stuff like Tiki armor...
i have a feeling it will require the martians, we’ll have to wait and see but if they are sold in a shop the challenge is dead and all of their time was for naught (or they just ban the hopper)
@@NicholasFadow-o4q this is another thing I thought, the problem is that it would be extremly tedious, you have to get a home for the dryad in a glowing mushroom biome, buy the seeds (yes the dryad supposedly sells them in a mushroom biome), and rip up the jungle to make the biome
Meteorite is accessible although rare pre-shadow chests from gold chests that are close to the hell border. Not sure if it would be enough to get anything productive, but it's worth noting
@@Adowrath It's the short form of "Oh Shit, Oh God, Oh Fuck". Basically you just use bombs to create a straight downward tunnel and use your wing glide to kite plantera. It's actually pretty save as long as your damage is high enough. If your damage is to low, you'll probably die lol
There is one another weapon for Plantera you didn't consider: The Mushroom Spear! It's a post-mech weapon sold by the Truffle. It's a whopping 70 gold, but if you can afford it it's a non-waiting way to beat Plantera. Also! The Dryad sells mushroom grass seeds if she's on an underground mushroom biome so you can get a truffle with no problem this way - no need to get the seeds via cutting grass, you can buy it directly
This makes you really consider some weird stuff. At least three times in this video I thought "well you can get armor from the tavernkeep... Wait... The defender medals drop as items."
Hey, Orange Zapinator works with Meteor armor, deals 100 damage per shot when it's not drunk, and sometimes it can multiply the damage. Or get stuck in the enemy. Either way, works like a charm
the biggest flaw in this route is Money, as you are limited with how much you can get in a world, as you can Only get it from Chests, be it directly or from selling the loot. Still Leaf Wings are not needed or viable for this reason as well as the Clentaminator, as getting Tiki armor and Steampunk Wings are higher priority. This is if you only use 1 World for this run instead of multiple worlds to get more loot and thus more money, even then it takes litteral hours in the best case scenario (a Small CelebrationMK10 seed Underworld Raids for Shadow chests) to get a few platinum, and for everything listed you'd need closer to 10 platinum, and that 6 Platinum to be comfortabel, with ammo, Armor, Weapons and Wings. But let's say money isn't a problem be it some odd dupe or world hopping then there are a few things you can get that can significantly help with the run, as in Explosive Bullets form the Arms Dealer and Demolitionist, or the Mushroom Spear form the Truffle after 1 mech, which can help if you do not do destroyer 1st, and or for Twins and Prime to save on ammo, while they charge at you. also doing this run with World hopping allowes you to get some very good gear, as in from the DontDigUp seed, you can get the Ice Bow, the Keybrand and the Bubble Gun, though for the sake of not ruining the balance of the run too much, these can be limited to when you could actually get them in game, as in Early HM, Post-Plantera and Post-Golem (as Duke is not possible to do) This video comes at an odd time for me specifically, as i'm following and helping out ChiefLogan currently Do this specific run on Stream, and jsut mind buggling to see some one not related talk about the same run. around the same time.
@@Terraw I'm doing it in Classic mode and allowing world-hopping, so depending on your ruleset it may be much harder. Anything harder than that felt like the run would lose all hope of being fun for me.
Everyone's asking about money, but I think a more interesting question is - how are you going to get the chests to place everywhere you don't want the meteor to fall? You can't pick them up from around the world, there's no way you get enough iron from chest loot to craft them, and to my knowledge, no npc sells chests. Would you have to use safes from the merchant? that would be insanely expensive, and thus require a massive amount of waiting for the tax collector.
@@syrelian Those would still require iron/lead to craft chests with, and getting iron/lead in high enough quantities from chests would be very difficult, likely impossible without using multiple worlds.
@@MoonyMuffin You don't actually need that many chests, since you only need to cover the surface enough to affect meteor landing Still a steep investment though
@@icicleditor yeah i was thinking that, if you can buy stuff form NPCs just fine, theres probably a bunch of cool tricks that they could implement just by using wiring alone
Is skeletron actually required? I could swear that it isn't required to do a normal playthrough, unless it doesnt allow the lunatic cultists to spawn since the old man will still be there?
There's one interesting thing you didn't mention: Fishing. Fishing up items bypasses the Encumbering Stone, which would grant a whole new slew of items. However, the issue is that fishing requires bait. As far as I can tell, every way to obtain bait requires either picking up dropped items (critters caught with the bug net) or fishing itself (jellyfish). It's worth noting that fishing does NOT grant access to crate loot, as grab bags are still affected by the Encumbering Stone - you can only obtain items directly from fishing. Still, this seems like an option worth looking into.
@@memded5432 Like I already said, grab bag items can't be used with the Encumbering Stone. They just drop their contents on the ground. That applies to crates, and it also applies to the can of worms.
Does fishing count as item pickups? If you're inventory is full it gets dropped next to you, but if it's not it behaves as if it teleported in your inventory; did you test that already?
Something you'll have to consider is the limited amount of blocks in chests to build viable housing. The only material that can build everything necessary for a house is wood, and torches can also be in surface chests. If you get lucky though, you should have enough for the travelling merchant to show up, and then by dynasty wood. However, considering that money is limited, you may not want to spend unless you really have to.
A little bit of pillar cheese I don't see mentioned often: When the shield is down, the NPC is active and can be hit from anywhere. This means that functionally infinite-travel weapons (such as guns) can hit it from across the map! You can check if you're hitting something by seeing if the DPS Meter records a fluctuating value.
For the meteor, you don’t have to chest proof the world, you can just build a long platform of stone slabs, that will act as a “wall” for the meteor, narrowing its landing areas to large enough holes in the “wall”
Not entirely sure it matters, but by placing the Dryad in a glowing mushroom biome you can get access to said biome’s seeds to make a surface glowing mushroom house for the truffle, which opens up the Hammush and Mushroom Spear, though they’re post-mech. But hey, that’s two more hardmode melee weapons!
You can make some houses in a glowing mushroom biome (idk if the required blocks are obtainable tho) and get the truffle to move in, who sells the hammush which can break altars.
As an alternative to some things (esp. in late game), how about explosives, particularly pre-made setups with lots of wiring? You can buy most things from the mechanic, and between the mechanic and the demolitionist (I assume a bomb from a chest to get him to move in, but skeleton merchant would also work) you can get everything you need for explosives or land mines (or rockets) hooked up relevant wiring... I mean, "Terraria with only traps" has been done; obviously this would be somewhat different but IIRC that video killed ML with just rockets easily, so it's probably better than the alternative [unless i-frame changes ruin that plan, I don't remember how long ago that run was done] Another question: can you catch critters with a net to make explosive bunnies?
You can still fish with the encumbering stone, so looting some can of worms at the start + fiberglass rod lets you get some crates for heart crystals. For more bait you can do angler quests or get them from crates
Absolutely HUGE thing that was overlooked in this run, the Tavernkeeper. Not only does he sell armor, but you can use all the sentries as they only cost 5-15 mana each. The first armor is available after any mech boss and the second set after Golem. I'm not sure how well it scales on Master Mode, but I do remember using full sentry armour/weapons to defeat the Moonlord in the past.
@@Starfloofle Shit really? Now that you mention that I think I recall them "dropping". I suppose the free 5 medals at the beginning don't make much of a difference either for pre-hardmode gear =\
Well, you got your answer about medals, so I just wanted to add that tier 1 armor is good (surely better than what you can get in this run) and tier 2 is very strong
I’m pretty sure fishing isn’t counted as picking up to the stone, allowing you get creates, which if I remember correctly can be opened and get there drops also as you have inventory room, meaning you can get life crystals and early hard mode ore weapons and armor along with biome weapons if you fished for long enough.
I am surprised there is no health limit for the mech bosses to spawn naturally, considering the fact that you need to have at least 200 health for the regular, pre-hardmode Eye of Cthulhu to spawn.
this challenge run becomes significantly less interesting after the next update, when they add hoppers although, that'll depend on how and where you craft them.
it's funny how this probably won't even be a challenge when 1.4.5 drops, as they're supposedly adding a feature that can move dropped items into chests
To break the altars for natural mech boss spawns, you could get the hammush from the Truffle npc. You would first get mushroom grass seeds from the Dryad in the underground mushroom biome then plant them in the surface jungle and hope the jungle doesn’t override the surface mushroom biome
In hardmode, I suspect most of our money will come from the tax collector, but in prehardmode we have to make do with what we can get by selling items.
Upon the release of 1.4.5, item Hoppers would be added to the game that would allow you to take dropped items from the ground, have them put into a chest and then be picked up by the player! This run is only truly hard pre 1.4.5!
Hardmode Mushroom biome! Truffle sells you both a good spear AND a hammer capable of breaking Demon Altars... but only after defeating a mech boss and having a surface mushroom biome. Maybe the Clentaminator on Surface Jungle could do it?
BTW, this run is going to get easier soon. Relogic is adding hoppers + vert. conveyer belts (which are sold) so you could just deposit items in chests like that.
Well, i've been looking for a channel that goes all-in on challenge runs - looks like i found what I've been looking for! Will other worlds be used as "Mulligans" if, as an example, meteors refuse to break altars in the Run's world? Or would the whole run be restarted before swapping worlds; even if you find yourself needing only one more chest's coins to get an item?
I actually thought about this awhile ago and would be interested in trying it myself at some point. So I won't be watching but I shall like and comment for the algorithm.
getting money is gonna be really difficult. you might have to do a large world just to maximise the amount of chests that exist in the world, or otherwise allow switching worlds.
@@madbanana22 what bait can you get from chests? the only thing i would think of is can of worms, which drops worms directly onto the ground so you cant use them
Okay but the mushroom hammer from the truffle, correct me if I'm wrong but for the truffle don't you just need a house in a mushroom biome, not a mushroom biome on the surface?
can you buy a fishing rod from the mechanic, then using some worm cans found in surface chests fish for crates to get enough hardmode ores to make a hammer? (Idk if those can break alters or not) rather than waiting for a meteor LOL
More certain than not (although do test for this later on!) that dungeon loot generation is actually predetermined and depends on the order of the chests, top-to-bottom So theoretically getting a specific loot from a locked chest shouldn't be RNG-dependant on chest loot tables
just go fishinf for life crystals using a wooden fishing rod to eventually get the gold fishing rod from fishing quests from the top of my head, im sure there is another fishing rod available in between. im pretty sure bait is just automatically put into your inventory like fishing drops so it should work like fishing does as it saids on the wiki
How are you going to obtain the money needed for all your purchases? Will chest loot be enough? Even if the chests give you a decent amount I still would be cautious since you can't really farm money in this playthrough (as far as I can tell at least) and each death means guaranteed loss of money Looking at the wiki I noticed that encumbering stone doesn't prevent you from getting fishing loot although your access to bait is very limited. As for the rod you can buy one from the mechanic or traveling merchant I was also wondering if the hammush is going to be useful but it can only be obtained after 1 mech boss
Money - either chest loot or the Tax Collector, which gives us an infinite source. Fishing is not prevented by the stone, but we can’t get bait at all. Cans of Worms are grab bags and drop on the ground. I haven’t really looked into the Truffle, since we can’t obtain mud and getting a surface mushroom biome would be a pain in the ass.
@@Terraw oh yeah, forgot about the tax collector and the fact that opening the cans won't work Getting truffle could work but only if there was an option to get dirt or mud without breaking blocks and I can't think of any at the moment. If it's possible then you could build a path to the surface allowing the grass to spread
You can't get the white string required for the yoyo bag Regardless, the goblin tinkerer is also unobtainable, as you can't get a natural goblin army due to having less than 200HP, and you can't pick up tattered cloth to create a battle standard.
What about starting in celebrationmk10 world? That would allow us to buy pirate staff post-plantera, which should increase our damage. That would also allow to buy coin gun, that potentially could be good damage source? (if tax collector is an option). Sergeants shield could also be a pretty good option, if paired with flares to despawn all projectiles from bosses. It grants 20 defence when raised, meaning that we could get 94 defence with ticky armor (35 from armor, 20 from warding, 20 from shield, 5 from bast statue, 8 from potion (i expect us to find at least 3-4 in chests), 4 from food, 1 from shackles, 1 from cobalt shield)? i dont know, if it will be useful or not, but possibility itself is interesting. Also 500% buff to melee damage after parrying could be usefull, if yoyos are an option.
8:07 What about fledgling wings? Are they just not worth the accessory slot or have they been changed to not be a chest item? On a different note, what do you mean by the tax collector not working?
Idk how good it would be with your movement, but for the golem fight i've seen people "cheese" it with teleporters which teleports you on the other side of the room while you keep dodging in the same direction, and they are now pre-golem
Question: Is it possible to fish for loot? You can get iron and wood from chests, and chests can have cans of worms in them for bait. It's... volatile since you have like, 10 worms to get a crate with more bait in it, but could you possibly get more loot that way?
@@rycftxdhfsdyftgdxuuhgjfgzx1925 not that easy. Steampunk wing is not enough and you cannot avoid the tongue without cheese. Also good luck killing the leech clots.
The Meteor smashing altars thing is a really funny way to get mechbosses. But how do you even craft chests when you have so little wood/iron to begin with?
Hey couldn't you put the dryad into a glowing mushroom biome in order to buy mushroom grass seeds, allowing you to move in the truffle so you can buy the hammush to break altars???
I didnt know Plantera had a timer. I thought only the Night time bosses had one. (And empress of light unless you can dodge One-shots). I figured the hardest part would be doing enough damage to beat Moon Lord's Healing.
question for 3:25 : how are you going to be unlocking the dungeon chests to get the shadow key if the chests require golden keys that you can't pick up? okay i looked it up and apparently they can spawn in unlocked chests, so with enough luck you would be able to open a few of the locked chests and get a shadow key that way. might be a softlock of some kind if you dont get lucky with the drops tho. edit: nevermind you actually go over this issue right in the next scene after i paused. dang it.
You don’t need to use chests to invalidate meteor spawns, a sky bridge made of platforms should work just as well. It’s how I made a meteorite themed build in my pre hardmode world
the problem then becomes sourcing the platforms, you can get dynasty wood and team platforms from the traveling merchant but that's really luck dependent and would require shitloads of money
So the heavy stone solution is great but i do wonder if some people would be opposed to call it no items being picked up with the money and life gained from mobs when killed. Especially the money because it is an actual item in your inventory. Maybe just something to be careful about when people try this and upload it for the title.
Okay, hear me out. Would, in theory, killing the Moon Lord with the jousting lance/inner tube/water tunnel/teleporter combo work? My theory is, you build three particle accelerators. Once the signal reaches the top you switch to a side tunnel and take out a hand eye. Repeat for other hand eye. Then keep using the center tunnel until ML dies. Although my fear is that Moon Lord might teleport and ruin it
Note that this route may be imperfect. If you have any suggestions for us - just like with the no-keyboard run - those are welcome!
I know there are a lot of unanswered questions about this theory, too. I’ve tried to answer some - see for yourself in the comments!
(e.g. How do you get coins? Early game, we sell spare chest loot, and in HM when we have to buy stuff, we just have to be very careful with our limited supply.)
(We were betting on Tax Collector but apparently he doesn’t work despite other quest NPCs working???)
There should be enough money to buy everything necessary, though we might need to skip some stuff like Tiki armor...
to think that this challenge can be circumvented once hoppers are added in 1.4.5 is pretty funny
use the truffles hammer to break the alters you can get him in early hardmode
i have a feeling it will require the martians, we’ll have to wait and see but if they are sold in a shop the challenge is dead and all of their time was for naught (or they just ban the hopper)
@@NicholasFadow-o4q this is another thing I thought, the problem is that it would be extremly tedious, you have to get a home for the dryad in a glowing mushroom biome, buy the seeds (yes the dryad supposedly sells them in a mushroom biome), and rip up the jungle to make the biome
Meteorite is accessible although rare pre-shadow chests from gold chests that are close to the hell border. Not sure if it would be enough to get anything productive, but it's worth noting
Simply roll 500 billion damage on the zapinator and blink moonlord out of existence
I’m probably going to actually have to bet on RNG for Plantera in case my osogof tunnel isn’t long enough…
@@TerrawI like how osogof actually has become a term
@@Goustave What does it stand for?
@@Adowrath It's the short form of "Oh Shit, Oh God, Oh Fuck". Basically you just use bombs to create a straight downward tunnel and use your wing glide to kite plantera. It's actually pretty save as long as your damage is high enough. If your damage is to low, you'll probably die lol
this is the first time ive seen this abbreviation and im just sitting here giggling at how absurd it is. This made my day thank you
I don't know how I got Terra to agree to run this
There is one another weapon for Plantera you didn't consider: The Mushroom Spear! It's a post-mech weapon sold by the Truffle. It's a whopping 70 gold, but if you can afford it it's a non-waiting way to beat Plantera.
Also! The Dryad sells mushroom grass seeds if she's on an underground mushroom biome so you can get a truffle with no problem this way - no need to get the seeds via cutting grass, you can buy it directly
I would like to bring up that melee with only 100hp may not be very viable.
And the Truffle sells the mushroom hammer, which can break altars.
@@fluffthecat2438 That is big!
@@fluffthecat2438 you can only buy the Hammush after a mech has been defeated, so you still need a meteor to break an altar unfortunately
i commented hamush first
This makes you really consider some weird stuff.
At least three times in this video I thought "well you can get armor from the tavernkeep... Wait... The defender medals drop as items."
Same! Like, I was thinking about getting hardmode ores through crates, then I realized "waiiiitt...right, you can't pick those up"
Biome chests are even more painful. Their loot would be so incredible to have... if it was obtainable.
U get 10 if u talk to the keeper for the first time and this works with every character so he could just make new accounts and put them in a chest
@@Bihabel2345 This, or you could use multiple worlds. It still abides by the rules!
@@fernando47180 yeah
Hey, Orange Zapinator works with Meteor armor, deals 100 damage per shot when it's not drunk, and sometimes it can multiply the damage. Or get stuck in the enemy. Either way, works like a charm
excelent idea
the only thing is that you would only have 17 defense
And you have to wait for the travelling merchant to sell you one still
Yeah he knows, it's mentioned in the video
How would you get meteor armor without having to pickup the meteor?
Terraria player I swear to god. One day it's going to be beating Terraria without out launching the game.
And then it's gonna be "can you beat terraria inside of minecraft"
@@jabomacalua319that has actually been done, btw,😐
I mean, you can technically do it if you list moon lord as beaten in TEdit lol
😮NAA @@Palemis
What counts as "launching" it?
You have access to a jousting lance and the inner tube so maybe you can do the water launch cheese or use rockets from the party girl?
This is actually a good idea
rockets from the party girl lmao. based on mappy's stuff, that might be the one that trivializes the run. Just a matter of cost...
@@solomonbyrne3909 Money is limited, the only way to get any is from chests or by selling stuff.
@@solomonbyrne3909 Where do you get money from tho? Besides selling chest loot?
@@ashoka7273 well you do have to wait a lot during this run so might as well farm as you wait
the biggest flaw in this route is Money, as you are limited with how much you can get in a world, as you can Only get it from Chests, be it directly or from selling the loot. Still Leaf Wings are not needed or viable for this reason as well as the Clentaminator, as getting Tiki armor and Steampunk Wings are higher priority. This is if you only use 1 World for this run instead of multiple worlds to get more loot and thus more money, even then it takes litteral hours in the best case scenario (a Small CelebrationMK10 seed Underworld Raids for Shadow chests) to get a few platinum, and for everything listed you'd need closer to 10 platinum, and that 6 Platinum to be comfortabel, with ammo, Armor, Weapons and Wings.
But let's say money isn't a problem be it some odd dupe or world hopping then there are a few things you can get that can significantly help with the run, as in Explosive Bullets form the Arms Dealer and Demolitionist, or the Mushroom Spear form the Truffle after 1 mech, which can help if you do not do destroyer 1st, and or for Twins and Prime to save on ammo, while they charge at you.
also doing this run with World hopping allowes you to get some very good gear, as in from the DontDigUp seed, you can get the Ice Bow, the Keybrand and the Bubble Gun, though for the sake of not ruining the balance of the run too much, these can be limited to when you could actually get them in game, as in Early HM, Post-Plantera and Post-Golem (as Duke is not possible to do)
This video comes at an odd time for me specifically, as i'm following and helping out ChiefLogan currently Do this specific run on Stream, and jsut mind buggling to see some one not related talk about the same run. around the same time.
You can get money from the tax collector
@@patrikvajgel240 no you can not, they drop in the world so you can't pick them up
@@b0ne_r3aper78 oh damn really
Yeah, that's what I kept thinking too, like "where is he gonna get the gold for that?"
you can still pick up items from fishing and you can still sell itemz
Very interesting video! But absolutely no one in their right mind would take on this challenge (I'm 20 hours into streaming it on my channel)
Interesting! Considering I haven’t seen a video yet, I thought nobody had tried to take it on yet.
Let’s see if you or I finish first (probably you.)
@@Terraw I'm doing it in Classic mode and allowing world-hopping, so depending on your ruleset it may be much harder. Anything harder than that felt like the run would lose all hope of being fun for me.
I thought this was a video of yours after reading the title.
@@DeLittleCat Same lmao, I was like "oh great, he finished streaming it and this is the video on it"
Still gonna watch it tho
@@ChiefLogan_ so valid and real
it's crazy that the second 1.4.5 drops with the hopper this challenge will crumble
Ah you beat me to it!
Assuming this build is capable of getting a hopper. What if it requires gel to craft it?
@@zaperzero Everyone knows that a hopper require 5 iron bars and a crafting station only...
@@Muhammed_English314it also needs a chest
@@cthuwu2138 I really wish that will be the recipe, it's such a nice and simple reference
Everyone's asking about money, but I think a more interesting question is - how are you going to get the chests to place everywhere you don't want the meteor to fall? You can't pick them up from around the world, there's no way you get enough iron from chest loot to craft them, and to my knowledge, no npc sells chests. Would you have to use safes from the merchant? that would be insanely expensive, and thus require a massive amount of waiting for the tax collector.
you answered it yourself!
but yeah this is a challenge so he will definitely wait however long it takes
Dynasty Wood and Team Blocks
@@syrelian Those would still require iron/lead to craft chests with, and getting iron/lead in high enough quantities from chests would be very difficult, likely impossible without using multiple worlds.
@@MoonyMuffin You don't actually need that many chests, since you only need to cover the surface enough to affect meteor landing
Still a steep investment though
Tax collector also doesn't work (he just drops the money on the ground)
Jousting lance + 3 minecart tracks with bumpers on the ends could help tear through some bossfights like destroyer or plantera
You do have full access to wiring, teleporters, water, and the inner tube, so...
@@icicleditor yeah i was thinking that, if you can buy stuff form NPCs just fine, theres probably a bunch of cool tricks that they could implement just by using wiring alone
Me waiting for someone to say that "Skeletron isn't required" so I can correct them. I love this job.
Skeletron isn't required tho
@@fernando47180 need old man to go away to get cultists
Is skeletron actually required? I could swear that it isn't required to do a normal playthrough, unless it doesnt allow the lunatic cultists to spawn since the old man will still be there?
@@demondangrthe old man indeed prevents cultist spawn
@@demondangr i did a run beating terraria in the least bosses possible, i beat skeletron after golem because i realized cultist wasnt spawning
There's one interesting thing you didn't mention: Fishing. Fishing up items bypasses the Encumbering Stone, which would grant a whole new slew of items. However, the issue is that fishing requires bait. As far as I can tell, every way to obtain bait requires either picking up dropped items (critters caught with the bug net) or fishing itself (jellyfish). It's worth noting that fishing does NOT grant access to crate loot, as grab bags are still affected by the Encumbering Stone - you can only obtain items directly from fishing. Still, this seems like an option worth looking into.
Technically you do have an option for bait in the form of cans or worm you can get from chests however they are very limited amounts of worms
@@memded5432 grab bags affected
@@memded5432 They drop as items, so you can't pick them up.
@@memded5432 Like I already said, grab bag items can't be used with the Encumbering Stone. They just drop their contents on the ground. That applies to crates, and it also applies to the can of worms.
You can get the Bladetounge and Toxicarp
Huh. This video is how I learned that Skeletron *also* has to be beaten alongside Golem for the Cultists to spawn.
I love how Terraria runs have become the spiritual successor to Dark Souls challenges ❤️ I love it!
Everyone commenting about hoppers in the next update as if they won't just be banned for the challenge because they completely circumvent it.
5:05 Yrimir playing, takes me back i used to watch all of his videos
and here I was thinking you could beat the game with only the three copper tools and an iron will
This seems ridiculously torturous. I love it!
6:21 prime jumpscare
3:47 powerful late hardmode weapon
You are actually have access to all the stuff bought from the machanic. This is extremely useful.
Great video, I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Mf you didn’t even watch the whole thing before commenting
@@CrustyFox87 lol
I enjoyed you thoroughly
Does fishing count as item pickups? If you're inventory is full it gets dropped next to you, but if it's not it behaves as if it teleported in your inventory; did you test that already?
Fishing does actually work! However, you can’t open crates.
However, we can’t obtain bait, which sadly makes fishing impossible.
@@Terrawwhy you cant open crates
@@Zbycholi think because it drops the items first and then picks it up
@@Zbycholyou can but you don't get anything from them cuz those items aren't teleported in
@@Terraw What about cans of worms? Are the worms also unopenable like the crates?
Something you'll have to consider is the limited amount of blocks in chests to build viable housing. The only material that can build everything necessary for a house is wood, and torches can also be in surface chests. If you get lucky though, you should have enough for the travelling merchant to show up, and then by dynasty wood. However, considering that money is limited, you may not want to spend unless you really have to.
A little bit of pillar cheese I don't see mentioned often: When the shield is down, the NPC is active and can be hit from anywhere. This means that functionally infinite-travel weapons (such as guns) can hit it from across the map! You can check if you're hitting something by seeing if the DPS Meter records a fluctuating value.
Commenting to show interest in seeing this as a video
two things:
1. this is a really impressive run to even theoretically complete, very interesting to watch
2. what texture pack do you use?
For the meteor, you don’t have to chest proof the world, you can just build a long platform of stone slabs, that will act as a “wall” for the meteor, narrowing its landing areas to large enough holes in the “wall”
Note: make sure the “wall” with have to be at one of the highest points in the map, close to the bottom of space
I went into this convinced it would quite literally be impossible until you clarified the ruleset for it.
Not entirely sure it matters, but by placing the Dryad in a glowing mushroom biome you can get access to said biome’s seeds to make a surface glowing mushroom house for the truffle, which opens up the Hammush and Mushroom Spear, though they’re post-mech. But hey, that’s two more hardmode melee weapons!
You can make some houses in a glowing mushroom biome (idk if the required blocks are obtainable tho) and get the truffle to move in, who sells the hammush which can break altars.
The first thing I thought was doing that zenith glitch with the guide and the achievement menu by doing the anvil achievement achievement
As an alternative to some things (esp. in late game), how about explosives, particularly pre-made setups with lots of wiring?
You can buy most things from the mechanic, and between the mechanic and the demolitionist (I assume a bomb from a chest to get him to move in, but skeleton merchant would also work) you can get everything you need for explosives or land mines (or rockets) hooked up relevant wiring...
I mean, "Terraria with only traps" has been done; obviously this would be somewhat different but IIRC that video killed ML with just rockets easily, so it's probably better than the alternative [unless i-frame changes ruin that plan, I don't remember how long ago that run was done]
Another question: can you catch critters with a net to make explosive bunnies?
No, but... Weirdly enough the Pirate's cannons might be legitimately useful if he finds a way to solve the money problem.
You can still fish with the encumbering stone, so looting some can of worms at the start + fiberglass rod lets you get some crates for heart crystals. For more bait you can do angler quests or get them from crates
you can't obtain bait meaning you can't fish
Absolutely HUGE thing that was overlooked in this run, the Tavernkeeper. Not only does he sell armor, but you can use all the sentries as they only cost 5-15 mana each. The first armor is available after any mech boss and the second set after Golem. I'm not sure how well it scales on Master Mode, but I do remember using full sentry armour/weapons to defeat the Moonlord in the past.
you cant pick up the medals
The problem is that the medals drop as items...
@@Starfloofle Shit really? Now that you mention that I think I recall them "dropping".
I suppose the free 5 medals at the beginning don't make much of a difference either for pre-hardmode gear =\
@@zancloufer At least you can use the first set of sentries, swapping as needed with shimmer, after beating the event once
Well, you got your answer about medals, so I just wanted to add that tier 1 armor is good (surely better than what you can get in this run) and tier 2 is very strong
Next video: how to beat terraria without inputs
'how to beat terraria without owning the game'
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I’m pretty sure fishing isn’t counted as picking up to the stone, allowing you get creates, which if I remember correctly can be opened and get there drops also as you have inventory room, meaning you can get life crystals and early hard mode ore weapons and armor along with biome weapons if you fished for long enough.
Cant wait!
this brought me to the idea of doing a fished gear only run
I am surprised there is no health limit for the mech bosses to spawn naturally, considering the fact that you need to have at least 200 health for the regular, pre-hardmode Eye of Cthulhu to spawn.
this challenge run becomes significantly less interesting after the next update, when they add hoppers
although, that'll depend on how and where you craft them.
it's funny how this probably won't even be a challenge when 1.4.5 drops, as they're supposedly adding a feature that can move dropped items into chests
To break the altars for natural mech boss spawns, you could get the hammush from the Truffle npc. You would first get mushroom grass seeds from the Dryad in the underground mushroom biome then plant them in the surface jungle and hope the jungle doesn’t override the surface mushroom biome
the hammer requires a mech boss kill.
i like how this is only hard in this version, since next update they are adding hoppers which can pick up anything from the ground
you can get crystal hearts from fishing. You can get bait from crates and worm cans from chests
Opening Cans of Worms don’t go directly to your inventory - they drop on the ground.
But how do you get enough fold for all these wings and rockets? I doubt, that prehardmode loot chests have so much gold inside.
In hardmode, I suspect most of our money will come from the tax collector, but in prehardmode we have to make do with what we can get by selling items.
Upon the release of 1.4.5, item Hoppers would be added to the game that would allow you to take dropped items from the ground, have them put into a chest and then be picked up by the player! This run is only truly hard pre 1.4.5!
what a hellish challenge!
Hardmode Mushroom biome! Truffle sells you both a good spear AND a hammer capable of breaking Demon Altars... but only after defeating a mech boss and having a surface mushroom biome. Maybe the Clentaminator on Surface Jungle could do it?
At this rate by next year we will have a terraria run where you beat the game without opening terraria
BTW, this run is going to get easier soon. Relogic is adding hoppers + vert. conveyer belts (which are sold) so you could just deposit items in chests like that.
Well,
i've been looking for a channel that goes all-in on challenge runs - looks like i found what I've been looking for!
Will other worlds be used as "Mulligans" if, as an example, meteors refuse to break altars in the Run's world? Or would the whole run be restarted before swapping worlds; even if you find yourself needing only one more chest's coins to get an item?
You can break altar with lava and water/honey
With lance being available in your kit, you can do a setup to oneshot bosses (mappy did a whole indepth guide)
Bro streaming it within an hour of this
I actually thought about this awhile ago and would be interested in trying it myself at some point. So I won't be watching but I shall like and comment for the algorithm.
getting money is gonna be really difficult. you might have to do a large world just to maximise the amount of chests that exist in the world, or otherwise allow switching worlds.
2:30 You can always fish for the heart crystals :)
...Unless fishing drops the items next to you instead of putting them directly into your inventory
fishing actually does work! but i dont think theres a way to obtain bait, and even if you could opening crates drops the items onto the floor
@@_emstaryou can find bait in chests, if you need more you can do angler quests
@@madbanana22 what bait can you get from chests? the only thing i would think of is can of worms, which drops worms directly onto the ground so you cant use them
@@_emstar oh
yeah I meant the can of worms
Okay but the mushroom hammer from the truffle, correct me if I'm wrong but for the truffle don't you just need a house in a mushroom biome, not a mushroom biome on the surface?
Has to be on the surface im pretty sure
The upgraded zapinator might be a good hardmode weapon.
Edit: nvm he knows
what texture pack(s) do you use? they look cool
can you buy a fishing rod from the mechanic, then using some worm cans found in surface chests fish for crates to get enough hardmode ores to make a hammer? (Idk if those can break alters or not) rather than waiting for a meteor LOL
oh shoot, fishing loot drops as an item...
when you try to open a crate or can of worms, the items drop onto the ground instead of going into your inventory 💔💔💔
More certain than not (although do test for this later on!) that dungeon loot generation is actually predetermined and depends on the order of the chests, top-to-bottom
So theoretically getting a specific loot from a locked chest shouldn't be RNG-dependant on chest loot tables
just go fishinf for life crystals using a wooden fishing rod to eventually get the gold fishing rod from fishing quests from the top of my head, im sure there is another fishing rod available in between. im pretty sure bait is just automatically put into your inventory like fishing drops so it should work like fishing does as it saids on the wiki
How are you going to obtain the money needed for all your purchases? Will chest loot be enough? Even if the chests give you a decent amount I still would be cautious since you can't really farm money in this playthrough (as far as I can tell at least) and each death means guaranteed loss of money
Looking at the wiki I noticed that encumbering stone doesn't prevent you from getting fishing loot although your access to bait is very limited. As for the rod you can buy one from the mechanic or traveling merchant
I was also wondering if the hammush is going to be useful but it can only be obtained after 1 mech boss
Money - either chest loot or the Tax Collector, which gives us an infinite source.
Fishing is not prevented by the stone, but we can’t get bait at all. Cans of Worms are grab bags and drop on the ground.
I haven’t really looked into the Truffle, since we can’t obtain mud and getting a surface mushroom biome would be a pain in the ass.
@@Terraw You mean getting a surface mushroom biome would be physically impossible.
@@Terraw oh yeah, forgot about the tax collector and the fact that opening the cans won't work
Getting truffle could work but only if there was an option to get dirt or mud without breaking blocks and I can't think of any at the moment. If it's possible then you could build a path to the surface allowing the grass to spread
@@kovexplay I think that might be an actual play if I’m really stuck. It sounds really funny
@@Terraw Does surface jungle work for mud
You could get a Yoyo Bag and yoyo from traveling merchant and skeleton merchant... though DPS by end game might be low
You can't get the white string required for the yoyo bag
Regardless, the goblin tinkerer is also unobtainable, as you can't get a natural goblin army due to having less than 200HP, and you can't pick up tattered cloth to create a battle standard.
@@DacuberTM Oh, man, that's right... At best, yoyo glove, counterweight, and a decent early hardmode yoyo... But, that's not much for late game.
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What about starting in celebrationmk10 world? That would allow us to buy pirate staff post-plantera, which should increase our damage. That would also allow to buy coin gun, that potentially could be good damage source? (if tax collector is an option).
Sergeants shield could also be a pretty good option, if paired with flares to despawn all projectiles from bosses. It grants 20 defence when raised, meaning that we could get 94 defence with ticky armor (35 from armor, 20 from warding, 20 from shield, 5 from bast statue, 8 from potion (i expect us to find at least 3-4 in chests), 4 from food, 1 from shackles, 1 from cobalt shield)? i dont know, if it will be useful or not, but possibility itself is interesting. Also 500% buff to melee damage after parrying could be usefull, if yoyos are an option.
I hope you do end up doing this, I bet it would make for greatly entertaining content
the 100 hp cap is gonna fuck people A LOT
I still have no idea why meteor armor negates the mana cost on zapinators too.
Orange zapinator: *did someone say rng?*
8:07
What about fledgling wings? Are they just not worth the accessory slot or have they been changed to not be a chest item?
On a different note, what do you mean by the tax collector not working?
Idk how good it would be with your movement, but for the golem fight i've seen people "cheese" it with teleporters which teleports you on the other side of the room while you keep dodging in the same direction, and they are now pre-golem
Mushroom hammaxe for braking altars
I think this challenge will be easily done by the next update. When hoppers are added. If they work they way I think they do.
FISH, you can get a fiberglass fishing pole and bait from angler/cans of worms, there you can get life crystals, ores, and a bunch of other stuff
Angler bait requires fishing in itself, and can of worms just dumps all the worms on the floor where you can't pick them up.
Question: Is it possible to fish for loot?
You can get iron and wood from chests, and chests can have cans of worms in them for bait. It's... volatile since you have like, 10 worms to get a crate with more bait in it, but could you possibly get more loot that way?
10:51 - The Moon Lord heals passively via Moon Bite, so without enough DPS, you can't defeat him.
Indeed! We deal enough to overpower that so it just makes our life slow as hell.
@@Terrawhave you tried Flare gun and fucking Dark Lance or any true melee weapon to kill him
only if he gets you with tentacle if you doge tentacle from his mouth he cant heal watch any sorbet cafe vidio
i mean just dont get hit by moon bite is gonna be the solution
@@rycftxdhfsdyftgdxuuhgjfgzx1925 not that easy. Steampunk wing is not enough and you cannot avoid the tongue without cheese. Also good luck killing the leech clots.
🤣 omg you're really better than me in my favourite game man this is amazing
Sorbet Cafe: that's easy
Won’t moon lord be impossible because of having such little dps? The moon leech clots will likely just heal back any damage that you’ve done
in 1.4.5 they are going to add hoppers or something similar so you can pick up items
(if it is craftable)
i love this idea
holy shit it's here
The Meteor smashing altars thing is a really funny way to get mechbosses. But how do you even craft chests when you have so little wood/iron to begin with?
Im pretty sure they plan on adding a hopper-like item in 1.4.5 so depending on how thats obtained it might end up trivialising this challenge
Hey couldn't you put the dryad into a glowing mushroom biome in order to buy mushroom grass seeds, allowing you to move in the truffle so you can buy the hammush to break altars???
I didnt know Plantera had a timer. I thought only the Night time bosses had one. (And empress of light unless you can dodge One-shots).
I figured the hardest part would be doing enough damage to beat Moon Lord's Healing.
I cant wait till this gets done man. It looks like hell but its really interesting 😂😂
Would you consider a celebration or get fixed boi world to allow the princess to sell make of the rare weapons?
question for 3:25 : how are you going to be unlocking the dungeon chests to get the shadow key if the chests require golden keys that you can't pick up?
okay i looked it up and apparently they can spawn in unlocked chests, so with enough luck you would be able to open a few of the locked chests and get a shadow key that way. might be a softlock of some kind if you dont get lucky with the drops tho.
edit: nevermind you actually go over this issue right in the next scene after i paused. dang it.
You don’t need to use chests to invalidate meteor spawns, a sky bridge made of platforms should work just as well. It’s how I made a meteorite themed build in my pre hardmode world
the problem then becomes sourcing the platforms, you can get dynasty wood and team platforms from the traveling merchant but that's really luck dependent and would require shitloads of money
2:24 what about fishing for golden crates?
That still counts as item pickup i belive
@@bibenken8655yeah you can't pick up the fished up items
I believe they travel straight into your inventory even with the encumbering stone
Items reeled in from fishing are still placed in the player's inventory.
- Terraria Wiki
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The problem is bait I think. When you catch a bug, it drops as an item.
I think the title should say "Without picking items off the ground" or (even less vaguely) "If you're always holding an encumbering stone"
he explains it 30 seconds in
@@philtommygino1 Yes, I watched the video. I just prefer it when gaming challenge videos have titles that are as clear as they can be.
So the heavy stone solution is great but i do wonder if some people would be opposed to call it no items being picked up with the money and life gained from mobs when killed. Especially the money because it is an actual item in your inventory. Maybe just something to be careful about when people try this and upload it for the title.
Okay, hear me out. Would, in theory, killing the Moon Lord with the jousting lance/inner tube/water tunnel/teleporter combo work? My theory is, you build three particle accelerators. Once the signal reaches the top you switch to a side tunnel and take out a hand eye. Repeat for other hand eye. Then keep using the center tunnel until ML dies. Although my fear is that Moon Lord might teleport and ruin it