Below I'll place all the missing heroes in the form of guides (showing the skills and real matches). Thanks for watching guys. Magneto: ua-cam.com/video/MVWCQIqyYpw/v-deo.html Star-lord: ua-cam.com/video/ppdXugGYbmk/v-deo.html Scarlet Witch: ua-cam.com/video/0kvL1b2nmgw/v-deo.html Peni Parker: hua-cam.com/video/5NPza0EtOS8/v-deo.html Namor: ua-cam.com/video/_Rj4CvHvNmI/v-deo.html Updated Guides- Hela: ua-cam.com/video/IRTo9yY-7q8/v-deo.html Iron Man: ua-cam.com/video/I1_A4f3GD6k/v-deo.html Storm: ua-cam.com/video/dprRHt6iFLQ/v-deo.html Rocket Raccoon: ua-cam.com/video/DHL5aivYf-g/v-deo.html Loki: ua-cam.com/video/YZ-s3fxH0xQ/v-deo.html The Punisher: ua-cam.com/video/ZAq-bX0Zbus/v-deo.html Groot: ua-cam.com/video/BoSmjgURKeM/v-deo.html Doctor Strange: ua-cam.com/video/qtnINrMbcuI/v-deo.html Black Panther: ua-cam.com/video/KLcS_cGZO1g/v-deo.html Luna Snow: ua-cam.com/video/T-uEny9glAA/v-deo.html Spiderman: ua-cam.com/video/HK8z3BbLREQ/v-deo.html Mantis: ua-cam.com/video/zmDeOeHGV4c/v-deo.html Magik: ua-cam.com/video/94gSrddngUo/v-deo.html Hulk: ua-cam.com/video/Zn6ESLITun4/v-deo.html
I really am underwhelmed by Hulk. I think he should be based more on raw tanking and increasing damage, speed, and damage reduction as he takes sustained damage until he hits a cap, so he's supposed to be constantly getting beat up and healed in order to be in top form. VERY much more "Hulky"
I honestly love how every single character evokes a sense of “hey I recognize that from overwatch! But what the fuck is THAT!?” Like storm, I recognize that from Lucio! But wait it does LIGHTNING damage!? WHAT!? So cool. Hulk is basically Dva and Winston in one!? What!?!? So cool.
same. and i really dont care that it relates to overwatch because if they can balance this game properly, it might be a new main for me, at this point, if you're gonna copy another game, do it right and make it better, im not about to get butthurt about that. only thing i'm worried about is cheating, because it feels like almost every online game is riddled with it compared to a few years ago, especially with the prevalence of DMA cheats.
They all look so OP that IDK how they are gonna balance everything. Seems like a lot of ways to instantly die from other abilities, I dont think survivability will be easy.
I mean Loki turning into people does make him harder, but couldn’t that also be able to let someone practice with multiple characters just by playing him
yeah, but its an alpha test tho, they can change a lot of things later, but if it dont, thats okay for me, i love the animations and Storm's abilities looks like more a team player gameplay, and I hope this game works because its perfect and looks so much better than OW in every way
@@boogerfatnuts im aware ive played several alphas. Not yet seen a whole kit or animation change. And you guys let these words fool yall for example COD drops a “beta” 2 weeks before the game thats not a beta.
Games like these especially mobas wont capture the characters full potential. I actually like storms skills, and i think they suit her well especially in a game like this.
Yeah, same here. It's bordering on a sin that The Punisher hasn't had a good game in such a long time. The last time I played him was in a mod for Max Payne 2, back in the day. But, come on, give us _something_ here! I *do* like his design in this game, though. He's an absolute machine. Can't wait for Daredevil: Born Again!
the hulk shouldn't have a support ability. instead, the shield should just cover him, and instead of the bubble, it should be car pieces attached to his arms. (reference to the hulk movies)
Great video! Can’t wait to play this game!! I think the devs should give the Dr.Strange ability where he charges dark energy for big dmg. That just makes more sense on Black Panther than Strange lore wise and role responsibility. Strange should have more sustain or CC as a Vanguard assuming their responsibility is to pressure and hold space. Black Panther can gather kinetic energy by taking dmg and do crazy burst. It looks like they want him to be a dive champ so it would make sense to me to do something like that to force the enemy team to respect him as a pick and focus him if they see him in the back lines.
He already has his passive which gathers kinetic energy to give him a passive dmg buff when low HP. Now I do agree, it would have been cooler to see him use his kinetic charge for some sort of burst AOE dmg (I think a good full rework for his passive would be turning it into a kinetic energy bar that fills up when he takes dmg, regardless of his current HP or how much he is healed, and after taking 200 dmg without dying his energy bar is full, allowing him to press f on any enemy (you will be prompted once they are within range) locking onto to them and pouncing on them then doing an AOE blast with high burst dmg upon landing. Lastly I would give him CC immunity during his pounce animation, so it can be used to break CC or can be used as a finisher without being denied by CC (this would not apply to things like Eye of Aggamoto which stuns but would against roots, slows, etc.) It is an iconic scene from the movies which is another big plus. My one change for Doctor Strange would be to turn his AOE dark energy blast into a single target siphon that deals dmg over time scaling off max HP (giving it slightly less dmg than the AOE blast against squishy 250 health heroes, and a good bit more against more tanky 500+ health characters, but a cap at max percentage dmg at 1000 hp so characters like Hulk don't get fully hard countered easily) and applies root and 30% slow over the duration of the DOT, but make it so that the siphon can be broken if you are able to move far enough away (out of its max range.) Although this significantly reduces the dmg against non-vanguards, it gives him a single target CC with an auto lock useful against fast elusive characters cutting off their escapes and slowing them, which also doubles as a scaling DMG to use against high HP vanguards who you may be dueling, and the CC doesn't hurt here either. The siphon is more methodically than an AOE burst dmg, which is exactly what Strange is all about, both in the game and in comics/film, methodical intelligent and innovative approaches, not random outbursts of power. Lastly, you are right, although a dark energy burst is a way to expel that energy, I think a siphon stealing life force while inflicting them with dark energy is much more fitting considering it shows the dark side of Strange which very much does exist, but is kept in check, just as you must keep your DPS and siphon cycle in check. I disagree however that Strange should not be reward for his dmg performance when following a DPS and expel cycle, his role is that of a vanguard, not just a traditional basic tank class, he offers survivability both for himself with his health pool but also for his team with his shield, but beyond that, he brings serious cc with his AOE stun and positioning with his portals which not only create new flank routes the way Magik can, but are far more essential tools for positioning, opening new angles of attack through portals (yes you can attack through them both ways), creating lines of sight for backline DPS to safely hide behind cover while supporting you with heavy burst when needed, or forcing enemy backlines to reposition by exposing them while they are in cover using smart lines of sight through portals. His kit isn't based on sustain, it is all about area denial and holding space, which he does by being a high dmg frontline that creates opportunities for his backline, while relying on supports for sustain. He practically brings everything you could need and more EXCEPT sustain, that is an intentionally designed weakness that forces him to use his shield and cc to help keep his primary support alive when faced with focused pushes with high burst dmg likely directed at supports, meanwhile the supports are then left to sustain Strange for the rest of the round keeping him topped up and ready for the next fight. So he should not get another sustain, even though I think a second very different type of CC would be appreciated in his kit.
@@ghostbravo7127 I think the way you described how a vanguard’s responsibility are as a role is gonna lead to role imbalance after a while, same reason GOATs meta killed OW1. Tanks can’t be everything, it kills the necessity of the coordinating with your team. I haven’t played the game personally so idk it feels but I did see people testing the idea out during alpha and it looks as if it might worsen if they keep up with the design philosophy of Vanguard’s with newer characters. Checks and balances between roles is important for people to understand their job on the team in most cases, idk if this’ll be the exception.
@@FloopsFooglies Tanks in this game are very powerful, but many heroes in this game are hybrids, such as Peni Parker (a Vanguard that is a Tank/DPS hybrid.) The other thing to note having played the game, this game is very much movement based, and while most tanks have something in their kit for either repositioning or diving, sometimes both, it is still nothing compared to what DPS (and some supports get.) The most mobile Tank, Venom, has the weakest defensive kit, and while he is a very strong dive tank because of his superior mobility WHILE being a Tank, it is compensated for with lower damage production than a true DPS, short range (which isn't a big problem due to his dive based kit), and a massive hit box. Compare that to Spider-Man, who definitely requires more skill to play than Tanks, but brings the burst dmg of a flank DPS, his hyper-mobility allows him to do more than just reposition, he has the intel on enemy pushes to help coordinate with his ground team to pressure the right choke points, he can easily enter the enemy backline, isolate an off-guard support, and take them out of the fight, then escape, and Tanks can not catch up. The same goes for Iron-Man, although his play-style differs from Spider-Man, he once again compensates for the lower health and zoning ability of a Tank, with higher DPS and hyper-mobility. Human Torch is coming relatively soon and he was described to me as an aerial threat like Iron-Man, but with a zoning and aerial denial focus as opposed to Iron-Man's more traditional DPS role, with Human Torch punishing Tanks for not being mobile and really having the ability to use his area denial to shape how and where they reposition, setting his team up for success. Supports feel the least balanced amongst each other, with some able to carry an entire team, and others being the weakest link, relying very heavily on others. That being said, Supports like Loki and Adam Warlock, are game changing and on good teams, are arguably the most important piece on the board. I see the standard game comp being: 2 Vanguards (including a primary Tank), 1 Duelist (I see hyper-mobile duelists being the meta at the highest levels of the game), 1 support (a support carry is going to be the core of most teams and people will build around it), and 1 flex (usually a hybrid of some sort, if you are running punisher at DPS then you might bring Rocket at Flex to play a supportive DPS role, with both holding off-angles, the Rocket in this case not only increases Punisher's DPS, but also keeps his health topped up, freeing up the primary support and allowing Punisher to go deeper into enemy territory despite his lack of mobility as a duelist, I'm sure you will also find GOATs style lineups with 2 primary tanks and a Spider-Man (Duelist) + Venom (Flex) diving duo. But if you are running Adam Warlock, all of a sudden running Spider-Man and Venom as a duo doesn't make sense since you would be foolish to not run Star-Lord as your DPS, and Adam Himself is a Flex based around maintaining attacking momentum, so Mantis despite being the weakest part of this combo, is still worth bringing as your healing Support, simply due to how she pairs with Adam. In an Adam team comp, the 2 tank spots are the only open ones, and may be filled by a combo like Hulk and Strange.) From what I've gathered speaking to devs, they really want to go with an almost classless system, and really do not want to limit the roles of specific heroes more than they have to. But have settled on a middle ground of 3 general archetypes, although the goal is for most heroes to be some sort of hybrid, allowing players to explore different team comps. Even the team-up mechanic, which I argued worked against their goals, are carefully balanced to create duos and trios that can fit into different team comps, allowing for a type of modular team comp design, but they also mentioned that while there are these essential duos who you'd be unwise not to play together, they have and will continue to add plenty of more flexible classes, that are not reliant on duos or trios, and have stronger kits paired with a weaker team-up which can be ignored completely if you wish to run them in other comps, with the key example being Groot. I have some of the same concerns as you in terms of balancing, but at the same time, I see that what they are doing with character design and mechanics, is innovative for the Hero shooter genre, and should not be limited. I think letting the metas grow naturally for a while with only fine tuning is the way to go, at least for heroes that are unique and offer new exciting play-styles and mechanics, and heroes that are not as exciting and don't offer interesting mechanics, can always be reworked in beta stages to get on par with their alternatives. As for class balancing, I think that large scale balancing should wait until a more complete roster is available, as we do not even have all the standard anti-tank DPS play-styles available in most hero shooters yet, which will inevitably change the in-game balance of tanks.
"Ok so you guys are in charge of making a unique Ultimate ability for _Spiderman!_ THE Spiderman! Whatcha got?" "Uhh we just thought maybe he jus goes 'hayaa!' and does...Spiderman moves or something and people just get hurt around him somehow." "...Oh so he just flails and it just hurts people. Clever..."
Watching people get really good at spider man is going to be insane. Idk if I like they like what they did with strange though.... Thematically its a good use of his shield, but I feel like he could be SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN A TANK.
you say that the shield for doctor strange has 1600hp which it appears to have on other clips but during the shield showcase it only had 800 as well with the gamma boost it had 800 so whats going on there?
Spider man is a five star because his damgage isn’t good without a lot of skill AND his mobility can be used better with a setting to freely swing but gets harder
I don't really understand all this shade /hate for the Luna snow character like we have robots, monsters, gods and everything in between but a musical idol with ice powers is where we start hating 😭
Man, they are super cool what do you mean?? If the women can be all super hot why the men cannot? At least I have always believed that if people complain that sexualizing female characters is "wrong", then is better to just sexualize the male ones too so everyone is equally satisfied.
Spider-Man has a high skill gap, this is why it's a 5 star difficulty hero due to his mobility mechanics and combos, MOST people will SUCK with the character even though a lot of them will try to play him, he looks cool, but not very useful in the hands of those who don't get the melee / distance mechanics, a few other characters are MUCH easier to play with
If they add antman ill download, he'd be the most powerful character and hes also my favorite character, like to be able to shrink and grow, he'd destroy anyone on the map within seconds, broken
@@avalonussy Right. Like Star Lord looks OP as cause he can blits characters and has a small hitbox. But he only has 250 hp. And most of of the standard attacks melt him
Goats was never a difficult problem to solve. The overwatch balance team just sucks so they resorted to cop out role lock. The fact that these guys are rolling with open queue likely means they already have a solution to goats.
Isn't there a comic where black panther ruled the dead with the infinite gauntlet and it's fitting for his ancestors known for worshiping his past and the representation of death isn't the end and all that I find that cool how he is stronger near death.
Im glad the devs had fun trying to fully realize the characters and make the abilities lore accurate first: but hulk, punisher and Spiderman are absolutely ridiculous and are gonna get nerfed to the ground Hulk having 2 form swaps it just dumb and going to be impossible to balance same as spiderman having twice as many abilities as everyone else to access the level of mobility he has in his home game They should have staggered out the types of mobility available and given them to different spidermen instead of making Spiderman such an OP power fantasy BC he's gonna feel so much worse when they realize his balance is unacceptable
@@POCAHONTASBOI not confirmed, but it has been leaked that they are going to port it to consoles. They have marketing materials that got leaked that show the Xbox and PS symbols
The game is on alpha and it shows, the design of Storm and especially the Hulk... it looks rough. I could swear Storm was considered a "support" in this game, but nope, she is supposed to be "dps"... that feels wrong, too much utility, makes it too obvious she will be a "meta" pick (and that's not a good thing, characters who can do too much, day 1 Brigitte was a traumatic experience), also no team up ability with Black Panther, her own husband lol Storm should be a support, speed remains the same, but heal with a "healing rain" or something, I know that sounds too similar to Lucio, but is it is what it is. Now Hulk, goddamn, this character looks wrong in every way smh I don't mind the Dva transformation, neither the jumping and hanging on walls, the power clap at shorter range... those are fine... but everything else is just wrong, Hulk generating "bubbles" of gamma radiation, wtf? He "spits" gamma that stuns enemies, lol this makes no sense. Hulk should be like "tank" Doomfist: a block who mitigates damage and empowers Hulks slowly (the "always angry" mechanic), then with enough accumulation he can transform, the block button change to the "puny God" move... and he will receive way less buffs while transformed because that would not be his ultimate anymore... because the ultimate should be the (real) meteor strike, the Marvel vs Capcom move, Hulk leaps off the map and smashes, AOE damage and it hinders the target who survived out of the epicenter, if Hulk uses the ultimate while transformed, the hinder lasts a little bit longer, so that way you are incentivized to use the meteor strike when it's convenient
Everyone on the internet right now: "This is like Overwatch in 3rd person and it's a ton of fun." Almost like there's a script involved. It doesn't look fun.
"Everyone is saying similar things, could there be a rational reason for this? No! It must be a conspiracy!" You realize how ridiculous you sound right lol, the game is pvp arena hero shooter, of course it's getting comparisons to overwatch.
Below I'll place all the missing heroes in the form of guides (showing the skills and real matches). Thanks for watching guys.
Magneto: ua-cam.com/video/MVWCQIqyYpw/v-deo.html
Star-lord: ua-cam.com/video/ppdXugGYbmk/v-deo.html
Scarlet Witch: ua-cam.com/video/0kvL1b2nmgw/v-deo.html
Peni Parker: hua-cam.com/video/5NPza0EtOS8/v-deo.html
Namor: ua-cam.com/video/_Rj4CvHvNmI/v-deo.html
Updated Guides-
Hela: ua-cam.com/video/IRTo9yY-7q8/v-deo.html
Iron Man: ua-cam.com/video/I1_A4f3GD6k/v-deo.html
Storm: ua-cam.com/video/dprRHt6iFLQ/v-deo.html
Rocket Raccoon: ua-cam.com/video/DHL5aivYf-g/v-deo.html
Loki: ua-cam.com/video/YZ-s3fxH0xQ/v-deo.html
The Punisher: ua-cam.com/video/ZAq-bX0Zbus/v-deo.html
Groot: ua-cam.com/video/BoSmjgURKeM/v-deo.html
Doctor Strange: ua-cam.com/video/qtnINrMbcuI/v-deo.html
Black Panther: ua-cam.com/video/KLcS_cGZO1g/v-deo.html
Luna Snow: ua-cam.com/video/T-uEny9glAA/v-deo.html
Spiderman: ua-cam.com/video/HK8z3BbLREQ/v-deo.html
Mantis: ua-cam.com/video/zmDeOeHGV4c/v-deo.html
Magik: ua-cam.com/video/94gSrddngUo/v-deo.html
Hulk: ua-cam.com/video/Zn6ESLITun4/v-deo.html
1550 on Hulk, not 15050 as said
scarlet witch link isn't working
@@apostatecactus5355 Should be now. The video just wasn't published.
I really am underwhelmed by Hulk. I think he should be based more on raw tanking and increasing damage, speed, and damage reduction as he takes sustained damage until he hits a cap, so he's supposed to be constantly getting beat up and healed in order to be in top form. VERY much more "Hulky"
0:02 marvel rivals ps5 2025
and a new story begins
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Coming from overwatch and being a marvel nerd, i cant wait to play this
Overgreed
@DelroyBarnies It was such a good game-had devs not been greedy it still would be going strong
Spider man will have the most insane skill ceiling like a 500 hour spider man main will be the craziest character to watch
Same with black panther
And like Genji he will get nerfed less than a year into the game.
I wish 500 hours was enough to make me decent at a game lol
Jonah was right. Spider-man is an absolute menace.
I honestly love how every single character evokes a sense of “hey I recognize that from overwatch! But what the fuck is THAT!?” Like storm, I recognize that from Lucio! But wait it does LIGHTNING damage!? WHAT!? So cool. Hulk is basically Dva and Winston in one!? What!?!? So cool.
same. and i really dont care that it relates to overwatch because if they can balance this game properly, it might be a new main for me, at this point, if you're gonna copy another game, do it right and make it better, im not about to get butthurt about that. only thing i'm worried about is cheating, because it feels like almost every online game is riddled with it compared to a few years ago, especially with the prevalence of DMA cheats.
These characters were made before overwatch
@@TimeForSlim3your not that bright.
@@nahaight1373 guess we have that in common
@@TimeForSlim3 Just you.
You get to move around in Luna Snows ultimate btw
wowee
That makes it WAY more viable. Thanks for telling us.
I can already tell a good magik will be a menace
spider-man is a menace :)
Yes
Calling it now, Storm and/or Mantis will be a must pick. In any competitive sense. (I’m super okay with it 😂)
They all look so OP that IDK how they are gonna balance everything. Seems like a lot of ways to instantly die from other abilities, I dont think survivability will be easy.
If everyone OP, no ones op 😂
I think it’s for the better, it means u can use ur favourite character and still having a chance to beat others
@@treygreypaws3689Yeah except that's never been true and never will be
@@teejay1646 It's completely true lmao. If everything feels "OP" then it's literally impossible for anything to be OVERpowered.
@@BeyondTrash-xe1vs no it just means everythings frustrating and nothing is balanced. It's the way Pokemon in balanced and it's a joke
Meanwhile, in Blizzard HQ: this Marvel game is our legit competition. Alright, get ready to nerf Genji. 😂😂
As someone who loved Bastion back in 2017 The Punisher is already my main except hopefully I don’t get death threats for playing him.
You get to give the death threats now! And it’s lore accurate!
@@west-vf7qj lmao
There's gonna be so many people bummed out about ol Frank in the game. Lmao I can't wait to main him
You probably will seeing as people Hate this man for how he plays
I mean Loki turning into people does make him harder, but couldn’t that also be able to let someone practice with multiple characters just by playing him
Learn how to play the other characters first for maximum efficiency
why storm power/abilities looks lame always in games they always use wind and lightning only we know she can do more than that ☹️
yeah, but its an alpha test tho, they can change a lot of things later, but if it dont, thats okay for me, i love the animations and Storm's abilities looks like more a team player gameplay, and I hope this game works because its perfect and looks so much better than OW in every way
@@lazulirivalsyou are very optimistic these animations etc probably wont be changed
@@Thatguyyoudontknow594it’s alpha bru literally everything about the game can change
@@boogerfatnuts im aware ive played several alphas. Not yet seen a whole kit or animation change. And you guys let these words fool yall for example COD drops a “beta” 2 weeks before the game thats not a beta.
Games like these especially mobas wont capture the characters full potential. I actually like storms skills, and i think they suit her well especially in a game like this.
I want my one shot headshot hanzo back in the form of hawkeye
Definitely gonna main my boy, The Punisher! Haven't played as him since his Ps2 game.
Call of Duty
Yeah, same here. It's bordering on a sin that The Punisher hasn't had a good game in such a long time. The last time I played him was in a mod for Max Payne 2, back in the day. But, come on, give us _something_ here! I *do* like his design in this game, though. He's an absolute machine. Can't wait for Daredevil: Born Again!
loved the iron man/MCU jab - keen to check this out and see what DLC characters bring
Hela and Loki seem so cool, can't wait.
You forget to covers a couple abilites (eg hela's passive)
This is however the best hero synopsis ive seen so far.
the hulk shouldn't have a support ability. instead, the shield should just cover him, and instead of the bubble, it should be car pieces attached to his arms. (reference to the hulk movies)
I am so excited for this game! Can't wait for it to launch on console.
True
The team up abilities are such a cool concept. Cant wait to co-op.
Great video! Can’t wait to play this game!!
I think the devs should give the Dr.Strange ability where he charges dark energy for big dmg. That just makes more sense on Black Panther than Strange lore wise and role responsibility.
Strange should have more sustain or CC as a Vanguard assuming their responsibility is to pressure and hold space.
Black Panther can gather kinetic energy by taking dmg and do crazy burst. It looks like they want him to be a dive champ so it would make sense to me to do something like that to force the enemy team to respect him as a pick and focus him if they see him in the back lines.
He already has his passive which gathers kinetic energy to give him a passive dmg buff when low HP.
Now I do agree, it would have been cooler to see him use his kinetic charge for some sort of burst AOE dmg (I think a good full rework for his passive would be turning it into a kinetic energy bar that fills up when he takes dmg, regardless of his current HP or how much he is healed, and after taking 200 dmg without dying his energy bar is full, allowing him to press f on any enemy (you will be prompted once they are within range) locking onto to them and pouncing on them then doing an AOE blast with high burst dmg upon landing. Lastly I would give him CC immunity during his pounce animation, so it can be used to break CC or can be used as a finisher without being denied by CC (this would not apply to things like Eye of Aggamoto which stuns but would against roots, slows, etc.) It is an iconic scene from the movies which is another big plus.
My one change for Doctor Strange would be to turn his AOE dark energy blast into a single target siphon that deals dmg over time scaling off max HP (giving it slightly less dmg than the AOE blast against squishy 250 health heroes, and a good bit more against more tanky 500+ health characters, but a cap at max percentage dmg at 1000 hp so characters like Hulk don't get fully hard countered easily) and applies root and 30% slow over the duration of the DOT, but make it so that the siphon can be broken if you are able to move far enough away (out of its max range.) Although this significantly reduces the dmg against non-vanguards, it gives him a single target CC with an auto lock useful against fast elusive characters cutting off their escapes and slowing them, which also doubles as a scaling DMG to use against high HP vanguards who you may be dueling, and the CC doesn't hurt here either. The siphon is more methodically than an AOE burst dmg, which is exactly what Strange is all about, both in the game and in comics/film, methodical intelligent and innovative approaches, not random outbursts of power. Lastly, you are right, although a dark energy burst is a way to expel that energy, I think a siphon stealing life force while inflicting them with dark energy is much more fitting considering it shows the dark side of Strange which very much does exist, but is kept in check, just as you must keep your DPS and siphon cycle in check.
I disagree however that Strange should not be reward for his dmg performance when following a DPS and expel cycle, his role is that of a vanguard, not just a traditional basic tank class, he offers survivability both for himself with his health pool but also for his team with his shield, but beyond that, he brings serious cc with his AOE stun and positioning with his portals which not only create new flank routes the way Magik can, but are far more essential tools for positioning, opening new angles of attack through portals (yes you can attack through them both ways), creating lines of sight for backline DPS to safely hide behind cover while supporting you with heavy burst when needed, or forcing enemy backlines to reposition by exposing them while they are in cover using smart lines of sight through portals. His kit isn't based on sustain, it is all about area denial and holding space, which he does by being a high dmg frontline that creates opportunities for his backline, while relying on supports for sustain. He practically brings everything you could need and more EXCEPT sustain, that is an intentionally designed weakness that forces him to use his shield and cc to help keep his primary support alive when faced with focused pushes with high burst dmg likely directed at supports, meanwhile the supports are then left to sustain Strange for the rest of the round keeping him topped up and ready for the next fight. So he should not get another sustain, even though I think a second very different type of CC would be appreciated in his kit.
@@ghostbravo7127 I think the way you described how a vanguard’s responsibility are as a role is gonna lead to role imbalance after a while, same reason GOATs meta killed OW1.
Tanks can’t be everything, it kills the necessity of the coordinating with your team. I haven’t played the game personally so idk it feels but
I did see people testing the idea out during alpha and it looks as if it might worsen if they keep up with the design philosophy of Vanguard’s with newer characters. Checks and balances between roles is important for people to understand their job on the team in most cases, idk if this’ll be the exception.
@@FloopsFooglies Tanks in this game are very powerful, but many heroes in this game are hybrids, such as Peni Parker (a Vanguard that is a Tank/DPS hybrid.) The other thing to note having played the game, this game is very much movement based, and while most tanks have something in their kit for either repositioning or diving, sometimes both, it is still nothing compared to what DPS (and some supports get.) The most mobile Tank, Venom, has the weakest defensive kit, and while he is a very strong dive tank because of his superior mobility WHILE being a Tank, it is compensated for with lower damage production than a true DPS, short range (which isn't a big problem due to his dive based kit), and a massive hit box. Compare that to Spider-Man, who definitely requires more skill to play than Tanks, but brings the burst dmg of a flank DPS, his hyper-mobility allows him to do more than just reposition, he has the intel on enemy pushes to help coordinate with his ground team to pressure the right choke points, he can easily enter the enemy backline, isolate an off-guard support, and take them out of the fight, then escape, and Tanks can not catch up. The same goes for Iron-Man, although his play-style differs from Spider-Man, he once again compensates for the lower health and zoning ability of a Tank, with higher DPS and hyper-mobility. Human Torch is coming relatively soon and he was described to me as an aerial threat like Iron-Man, but with a zoning and aerial denial focus as opposed to Iron-Man's more traditional DPS role, with Human Torch punishing Tanks for not being mobile and really having the ability to use his area denial to shape how and where they reposition, setting his team up for success.
Supports feel the least balanced amongst each other, with some able to carry an entire team, and others being the weakest link, relying very heavily on others. That being said, Supports like Loki and Adam Warlock, are game changing and on good teams, are arguably the most important piece on the board.
I see the standard game comp being: 2 Vanguards (including a primary Tank), 1 Duelist (I see hyper-mobile duelists being the meta at the highest levels of the game), 1 support (a support carry is going to be the core of most teams and people will build around it), and 1 flex (usually a hybrid of some sort, if you are running punisher at DPS then you might bring Rocket at Flex to play a supportive DPS role, with both holding off-angles, the Rocket in this case not only increases Punisher's DPS, but also keeps his health topped up, freeing up the primary support and allowing Punisher to go deeper into enemy territory despite his lack of mobility as a duelist, I'm sure you will also find GOATs style lineups with 2 primary tanks and a Spider-Man (Duelist) + Venom (Flex) diving duo. But if you are running Adam Warlock, all of a sudden running Spider-Man and Venom as a duo doesn't make sense since you would be foolish to not run Star-Lord as your DPS, and Adam Himself is a Flex based around maintaining attacking momentum, so Mantis despite being the weakest part of this combo, is still worth bringing as your healing Support, simply due to how she pairs with Adam. In an Adam team comp, the 2 tank spots are the only open ones, and may be filled by a combo like Hulk and Strange.)
From what I've gathered speaking to devs, they really want to go with an almost classless system, and really do not want to limit the roles of specific heroes more than they have to. But have settled on a middle ground of 3 general archetypes, although the goal is for most heroes to be some sort of hybrid, allowing players to explore different team comps. Even the team-up mechanic, which I argued worked against their goals, are carefully balanced to create duos and trios that can fit into different team comps, allowing for a type of modular team comp design, but they also mentioned that while there are these essential duos who you'd be unwise not to play together, they have and will continue to add plenty of more flexible classes, that are not reliant on duos or trios, and have stronger kits paired with a weaker team-up which can be ignored completely if you wish to run them in other comps, with the key example being Groot.
I have some of the same concerns as you in terms of balancing, but at the same time, I see that what they are doing with character design and mechanics, is innovative for the Hero shooter genre, and should not be limited. I think letting the metas grow naturally for a while with only fine tuning is the way to go, at least for heroes that are unique and offer new exciting play-styles and mechanics, and heroes that are not as exciting and don't offer interesting mechanics, can always be reworked in beta stages to get on par with their alternatives. As for class balancing, I think that large scale balancing should wait until a more complete roster is available, as we do not even have all the standard anti-tank DPS play-styles available in most hero shooters yet, which will inevitably change the in-game balance of tanks.
Damn so i can legit say "Wait guys, my spidey senses are tingling" and not sound as goofy
so hyped for this
Am I crazy? You're using Marvel SNAP music? wrong marvel game, but a welcome one
I am yes, there isn't much Marvel music out there.
Dude, Snap music kinda bangs, I loved the planet hulk theme
Im about to have that marvel super war era all over again
Rarely ever do i see i game with SO MANY characters that suit my play style
"Ok so you guys are in charge of making a unique Ultimate ability for _Spiderman!_ THE Spiderman! Whatcha got?"
"Uhh we just thought maybe he jus goes 'hayaa!' and does...Spiderman moves or something and people just get hurt around him somehow."
"...Oh so he just flails and it just hurts people. Clever..."
Gonna main Magik!!!
Luna Snow’s left shift looks like it pierces, which could let her do quite a bit of healing and damage with good positioning, I imagine.
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Played a few matches earlier. Mantis is so good, really reminds me of lifeweaver with a bit of zenyatta in the ultimate
Watching people get really good at spider man is going to be insane.
Idk if I like they like what they did with strange though.... Thematically its a good use of his shield, but I feel like he could be SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING THAN A TANK.
imagine making a guide on a game you haven't played
Can't wait to try the Punisher.
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you say that the shield for doctor strange has 1600hp which it appears to have on other clips but during the shield showcase it only had 800 as well with the gamma boost it had 800 so whats going on there?
Love how Scarlet Witch is Moira but more interesting
very nice presentation, thank you.
Cant wait to play Iron man and Rocket. I love playing support but Iron man's my day 1
Punisher feels more like crossbones imo, even looks are a bit off
Spider man is a five star because his damgage isn’t good without a lot of skill AND his mobility can be used better with a setting to freely swing but gets harder
As someone that came from league I very much like spiderman
Luna Snow just seems like a Dazzler reskin. I'm hoping maybe she'll get a Dazzler alt skin/effects in the future.
I don't really understand all this shade /hate for the Luna snow character like we have robots, monsters, gods and everything in between but a musical idol with ice powers is where we start hating 😭
it's because she isn't a known marvel character and her abilities aren't all that good.
It had nothing to do with ice powers and everything with hitting ney ney in middle of battle lol
@@Tyzombieno he just don’t understand the character prime example I’ve seen her move around in her ultimate
@@seekyunbounded9273 we literally have a talking tree and raccoon on the battlefield, her dancing during her ultimate is not the worst thing 😭
They always hate on the idols. Shinbi from Paragon got the same hate.
I’m not really a fan of the character designs some of them are unnecessarily bulky. like doctor strange, iron man, magik, blank panther, punisher.
Man, they are super cool what do you mean?? If the women can be all super hot why the men cannot?
At least I have always believed that if people complain that sexualizing female characters is "wrong", then is better to just sexualize the male ones too so everyone is equally satisfied.
I agree. Not a fan of the shader(s) either. The outlining doesn't seem to fit the environment. Animations seem stiff.
Is it me or does the punishers model look like he belongs in a gears of war game?
Spider-Man has a high skill gap, this is why it's a 5 star difficulty hero due to his mobility mechanics and combos, MOST people will SUCK with the character even though a lot of them will try to play him, he looks cool, but not very useful in the hands of those who don't get the melee / distance mechanics, a few other characters are MUCH easier to play with
Maybe Loki should be a 6 star difficulty.
i think people need to also keep in mind that lower hp characters have less room for error, moveset isn't the full story
It's like Spy in TF2. He has a high skill ceiling. But once you practice, and learn him, you could go around and pub stomp.
meanwhile, punisher is literally 3rd person COD with 1 grapple gun lol
Crazy to me that he thought Black Panther could be 2 stars with all the ability weaving and how punishing missing would be.
I might use Punisher, Starlord and Hulk
If a company that hates me didn’t own Marvel I’d try it out.
Why does Disney hate you
Lokis ultimate is just echo but marvel which isn't a bad thing I just wanted to point it out since we all see overwatch in this game
I’m going to play Spider-Man the most, because I’m a Spidey fan boy but eh
I really wanna play Magik
I feel like many racial slurs are gonna be said when people see Black Panther on the other team. Mans a beast.
I was looking for a video to n this originally but it’s the only one i found
should have gave spiderman and ironman a lil team ability ngl
that would be so cool :,(
If they add antman ill download, he'd be the most powerful character and hes also my favorite character, like to be able to shrink and grow, he'd destroy anyone on the map within seconds, broken
So far everything looks OP which is fine but there needs to be some survivability
its good since you can use ur favourite characters without being at a disadvantage,
@@avalonussy Right. Like Star Lord looks OP as cause he can blits characters and has a small hitbox.
But he only has 250 hp. And most of of the standard attacks melt him
the punisher reminds me of the legion titan from titanfall 2 but with more options
I did get my code and downloaded. Can’t seem to login or look at characters. So thank you for posting this! I need some info until it comes out!
You're welcome!
do you have a extra code i do want to play this
How do you take a code
servers arent live yet. you can load shaders and mess w settings but servers are closed until launch later today 5 pm PST
@@Viejo93 ik but i need a code to play the game
Can't wait until someone figures out what the Goats of this game is.
Currently there’s no AOE healing which was what enabled goats
its in alpha so they prob wouldn't reveal it until the game is out and would probably get patched fast
You seem to massively misunderstand how goats works if you think this is possible
Goats was never a difficult problem to solve. The overwatch balance team just sucks so they resorted to cop out role lock. The fact that these guys are rolling with open queue likely means they already have a solution to goats.
Rocket racoon is what i need to play to die in peace and harmony
Spiderman feels a bit like the insomniac gameplay
Did they work with blizz Activision on this cuz this seems like Overwatch with superheroes
Overwatch was nothing original either. It was just building off of the foundation laid by Team Fortress 2.
Well I already know my main , Loki, it's all my overwatch mains into one lol 😂, that's crazy, Moira, Baptist and Echo into one character, nice 😊
As a Valentina main from ml, Loki will be so much fun
this game is not MOBA like ML , you think your skill to mobile can flex to PC platform lmao.
@@ravensayana2870 never said I'm playing on a pc... and those are basic rpg skills 💀
Isn't there a comic where black panther ruled the dead with the infinite gauntlet and it's fitting for his ancestors known for worshiping his past and the representation of death isn't the end and all that I find that cool how he is stronger near death.
Will be Storm maining❤️💯
Im glad the devs had fun trying to fully realize the characters and make the abilities lore accurate first: but hulk, punisher and Spiderman are absolutely ridiculous and are gonna get nerfed to the ground
Hulk having 2 form swaps it just dumb and going to be impossible to balance same as spiderman having twice as many abilities as everyone else to access the level of mobility he has in his home game
They should have staggered out the types of mobility available and given them to different spidermen instead of making Spiderman such an OP power fantasy BC he's gonna feel so much worse when they realize his balance is unacceptable
That MCU diss with iron man was brutal but way too true 💀
Bruh, Hela has an infinite ammo Needler? I'm in!
My guy is giving both groot and spiderman a 3 stars difficulty lol
This game came out the jump beating the OW2 copy allegations and I'm here for it. Low End pc gang is begging for a console release
How about that non-disparage clause from Marvel/Disney?
I love Overwatch so I’m hoping this will be good
A little surprised omega level storm is so team support focused not even crow control build just team boosting
They just looked at overwatchs roster picked 2 or 3 characters and made them one
Loki doesn't heal, his regeneration domain should be renamed to deception domain and instead of healing it turn allies invisible in the aoe.
Damn this game seems awesome
It was a lot of fun to play in beta!
Is jeff really coming to this game? First time im hearing about it
Yeah he's been leaked. On twitter there's a data miner sharing info on all the leaked characters and map's.
Is that a dunkey reference
Absolutely! Good catch. Thought more would get it
dang with all of the characters on marvel what more they can add when it hits global
Storm and Loki look fun
when does it come out for consoles? i really wanna play this
There's not a release date for the full game yet and they haven't officially confirmed that it will be on Consoles.
@@POCAHONTASBOI not confirmed, but it has been leaked that they are going to port it to consoles. They have marketing materials that got leaked that show the Xbox and PS symbols
Iron man
Magic
Loki
Dr Strange look fun to learn
name of the background music pls
Man i wish they just did iceman instead of luna snow, without the kpop of course lol.
Luna snow ult should slow enemies inside it
Let’s be for real though, this game would have worked best as a DC game instead of marvel.
How so? They would be nearly identical. Both dc and marvel have mirror images of most heroes
Spiderman seems to be cool af to play.
So get hulk, groot, iron man, and the punisher on the same team
The game is on alpha and it shows, the design of Storm and especially the Hulk... it looks rough. I could swear Storm was considered a "support" in this game, but nope, she is supposed to be "dps"... that feels wrong, too much utility, makes it too obvious she will be a "meta" pick (and that's not a good thing, characters who can do too much, day 1 Brigitte was a traumatic experience), also no team up ability with Black Panther, her own husband lol Storm should be a support, speed remains the same, but heal with a "healing rain" or something, I know that sounds too similar to Lucio, but is it is what it is.
Now Hulk, goddamn, this character looks wrong in every way smh I don't mind the Dva transformation, neither the jumping and hanging on walls, the power clap at shorter range... those are fine... but everything else is just wrong, Hulk generating "bubbles" of gamma radiation, wtf? He "spits" gamma that stuns enemies, lol this makes no sense. Hulk should be like "tank" Doomfist: a block who mitigates damage and empowers Hulks slowly (the "always angry" mechanic), then with enough accumulation he can transform, the block button change to the "puny God" move... and he will receive way less buffs while transformed because that would not be his ultimate anymore... because the ultimate should be the (real) meteor strike, the Marvel vs Capcom move, Hulk leaps off the map and smashes, AOE damage and it hinders the target who survived out of the epicenter, if Hulk uses the ultimate while transformed, the hinder lasts a little bit longer, so that way you are incentivized to use the meteor strike when it's convenient
RIP Concord & Overwatch
They totally should have just added Iceman instead of that nobody, Luna Snow character
That'd be stupid. Ice Man as a healer. Is that what you want? They can just add both and have him as a proper dps or tank that makes ice walls.
@dootdootington386 If it is stupid, then why is that Luna Snow character a healer if she's basically got the same powers as Ice Man?
Crazy that Black Panther can't absorb damage and release it from his suit. 😑
I fear bad balance will kill this game 😂😂
It’s still in alpha not even beta yet, things are obviously going to change
@@avalonussy Good. I hope it ends up being a good game.
I want my main man moon knight added to the game
Marvel trying to put overwatch out of business.
Is iron man always flying or can he walk?
How do you play this? And where?
It's on pc rn but it will realese to console at a later date
Everyone on the internet right now: "This is like Overwatch in 3rd person and it's a ton of fun." Almost like there's a script involved. It doesn't look fun.
I mean, it is a ton a fun. If you dont like it then fine, but for marvel nerds its a wet dream 🥴
@@10human7my webs are everywhere
"Everyone is saying similar things, could there be a rational reason for this? No! It must be a conspiracy!" You realize how ridiculous you sound right lol, the game is pvp arena hero shooter, of course it's getting comparisons to overwatch.