The fundamental problem is you cannot have a sustainable public transportation system if you don't think about how you handle the land around the stations. Take any city that sprawled on transit like New York or San Francisco and you see some density with greenspace and shopping within walking distance. If you want to boost ridership you need to redevelop the parking lots into a mixed use transit village. Also add lots of buses to further promote development near the transit corridor. It is tried and tested 100 years ago in New York City as it is now in Amsterdam.
True - connections buses are very bad. They're infrequent and run by a wide range of agencies that require you to pay an additional fare. You can only have so many buildings within walking distance of a train station, so it's important to have good bus and light rail connections.
@@empirestate8791- connections with buses are bad because you have a majority of drivers that are either retiring or are kicking the bucket for other jobs because they don’t feel safe
This is the solution. BART can utilize the land they own around stations to build up some destiny they can provide consistent revenue from rents and fares. Fixing the safety perception and making some system adjustments can make BART soar.
@@Eddieanthony-fs7is No, buses are often bad because there are no bus lanes to stop the bus from getting stuck in the same traffic as motor vehicles. No one is saying that you need bus lanes everywhere, but you do need them on busy arterial roads and collector streets. Modal filters that only buses can pass through also help as well.
If you want more Riders on BART, have companies buy discounted tickets to give to their employees, so they can ride free as company's perks. That way it can be a steady source of revenue.
I believe BART (and the Clipper system as a whole) are planning to roll out an unlimited Bay Area regional transit pass which can be purchased by employers in the next year or so.
In the 30 years I have been in the Bay Area and a BART customer, they have made only two changes Zi like: 1. replacement of carpeting in cars with a composite material. 2. installation of elevators in some places where they were needed. They have made more significant changes which I don’t like at all: 1. Severely reduced the number of seats. 2. Stopped using the paper tickets.
Since a lot of people in San Francisco don't have cars and use the public system. Their animals need a way to get around as well . As a Bart employee working in the city
In my opinion and observations All govt transport in california Bay area run empty mostly A few riders , one or two They hardly go most places Basicly they do not cover Destinations that are needed IN MY OPINION ALL GOVT TRANSPORT THAT DO NOT SUPPORT ITS EXPENSES OR COST OF OPERATING ON THE PLUS SIDE SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN. Same happing with bart The fare is way too high Then no this no that One should have a e scoot or Bike with pedals to complete Ones trip after and b4 u ride Bart or take uber So for all that drill Y 0 just drive out there and Do what ever you like to do In the car Eat,drink,smoke, fart, yell,shout Kick,curse, I mean one is free and with a few Gallons you arrive you destination Fuc bartfart
@@plusblood5101 So you'd support destroying all our highways and airports solely because they require subsidies to be financially sustainable? Don't think there's gonna be any ride for the price of a few gallons of gas in your car after we do that!
San Francisco rolled out the red carpet to madness. Here in Portland, Oregon, we face similar challenges with rampant use of hard drugs in public, homelessness, and mental illness, and the impacts that individuals with serious life problems have on public safety for passengers on our MAX trains, downtown streetcars, and TriMet buses. Effectively addressing the issues of the population of mentally ill or drug addicted homeless people will improve safety on public transportation, increase ridership, and thereby improve the financial picture for these systems. So, an investment in addressing homelessness is, indirectly, an investment in the public transportation system.
Just rode the BART the other day to attend APEC in San Francisco, i saw a homeless man pants down ass out ON the seat… another time, a homeless person smoking crack. If there’s one thing i would suggest is to make SAFETY a #1 priority. The fact that even I feel uncomfortable riding it, a dozen more people are avoiding BART altogether.
yuk i hate the chemically smell of crack filling the train cabin. people should limit themselves to meth while riding bart because at least it smells sweet.
I take bart two days a week and I think trains have been a lot cleaner. A lot of the problems come from people, like a while ago someone was smoking inside a train, smoking! Like you know it's an enclosed space and it's already very stuffy, and sir you think it's ok to smoke? People must have reported it on the app because a few minutes later a voice from the intercom says no smoking is allowed inside.
The main issue is the board are still in la la land when it comes to fiscal responsibility. Ok. You don't support a cut of 10% of services. Fine. So how are you going to continue funding a service that has lost 60% of it's riders and heading into a fiscal cliff in the next few years? Crickets.
Well said! No one likes waiting an extra 5 minutes for a train, but if that's what is required to keep the system going until the deficit is brought up, fine so be it. My issue is it seems like BART is like any other transit agency, they just keep spending money on useless crap and then cry poor when the money runs out, instead of going "Alright, how can we become more self-sufficient?"
Why didn't anyone talk about saving money by making all of the highways in the Bay Area three lanes between each exit, and just two between the off and on ramps? That would save on the ever increasing maintenance costs. Oh, that's right, all of the calling for cuts in public transport prefer to drive and probably think that my idea is crazy. The Bay Area already screwed up once by getting rid of the Key System, and I would argue that allowing the destruction of the Key System and getting people into cars is probably the primary reason for all of the traffic in the Bay Area. It cost so much money to build BART, letting BART go, and later trying to build a third public transport system for the East Bay will be even more expensive than keeping BART going.
Jim Wunderman gets it... Bart council all need to be replace, BART mission is to provide transportation around the bay, not social justice and reforms. I stop riding bart cause it's dirty, dangerous, and fare evaders causing trouble and doing drugs on the train.
28:40 - correction there is connection to the Livermore and the San Joaquin Valley from Dublin/Pleasanton. When you say at 30:53 there’s no public transit east of Dublin/Pleasanton Station, that is VERY MISLEADING. LAVTA runs several bus routes from Dublin Station to Livermore. Stanislaus County Transit runs a route to Modesto, SJRTD runs from Dublin to Tracy and Stockton, and then you have Amtrak Bus to Sacramento.
This is true, there are buses (and ACE) that make these trips. I'm sure what she probably meant was a fast high-capacity service, in the context of mass trans-Altamont commuting. I've traveled eastbound on FULL, 7- or 8-car ACE trains before and I'm sure no combination of Central Valley transit agencies has the available fleet to deploy that many buses twice a day across the Altamont to carry the same ACE load of passengers and still have room to serve their local trips.
@@Intersteightyyeah i think that in an ideal world, ace would simply be better and connect with Bart at downtown Livermore. İt's really comfy compared to Bart both in terms of rolling stock and safety. Just need to say like a country that actually wants to get people across the altamont quickly without a car, its too slow for not much of a good reason
1:43 I like how he caveats that with "first *all new*" because PATCO opened in January 1969 in New Jersey. It just wasn't *all new* because it used part of an existing tunnel at the Philly end of the line. Otherwise everything else that BART did, PATCO beat them to it by a few years.
As someone who now rides BART from Millbrae to Daily City, I have some thoughts on the system! As part of my SFSU tuition, I get free rides on BART and even then, it is still MEH overall. If BART wants to increase ridership, it NEEDS to actively show that it is trying to make the ride safer for people onboard and if that means clearing house with the current board, so be it. There are ways to reduce the deficit, but unpopular initiatives are going to be required to pull that off. My main issue with the tax to raise funds for BART is that we are already being taxed heavily and for what? There is nothing to show for it, and I feel like BART needs to prove it's being fiscally responsible BEFORE it gets any more money, that potentially will just get spent on useless crap.
It's simple. Riders pay fares and taxpayers cover a significant shortfall in the BART budget. They should expect a system that only lets fare-paying customers onto the platforms and trains, a system that is clean, and a system that is safe. Despite paying exorbitant amounts into high wages, including overly generous benefits, ludicrous overtime allowances, and pensions you would never see in private industries, we have none of the things we paid for. The fare-evaders rule the roost (and the chairs for the elderly and disabled), there is filth all around, and the trains and stations are magnets for predators. It's money being thrown into an deep, dark hole. And, then, we get the periodic shutdowns when the unions don't get their way. Let the era of BART end. Let it, and those one-sided contracts, be no longer a drain on the budgets of families and local governments. Then start over. It's the only way.
BART fares keep going up all the time. It used to be 60 cents and now it's over two dollars. One round trip can be between $80 to $120 a month. Bringing the fares down might help a little bit.
Instead of expanding, focus on making more connections across from the east bay to the peninsula. How about making another connection from san mateo bridge end to end, same with dumbarton. I would love to tak bart but I live in San Leandro and work in Burlingame, too many stops on the way there.
if we're going use tax money to pay for bart, then bart need to give up their large salaries and everyone gutted out, and the public own bart like any public utiliies.
They need engineers running the board who primarily focus on safety and transport worthiness. Anything outside of this is clear path for system degradation.
At the exit of the Montgomery station I get off, there are two elevators with two full time employed staff that does absolutely nothing but wait for someone to get on the elevators. I have seen less than a dozen people get on over the years. They either sleep or are on their phones. Bart has full medical and pension. Trim the fat. Administrative cost is insane. I will never speak positively about Bart even though I rely on it. I wouldn’t shed a tear if I have to drive in. I’ve encountered so many douchebag employees especially on a the 12th street oakland. BART is late almost every other time I take it. Once there was police activity and I just got off and called an Uber. BART technology is a joke. Lastly, they’ve jacked up fares every year, parking fees, reduced cars, reduced frequency, all in wreck-less spending with no improvements to show for it.
I knew the excess pee pee poo poo on the trains, in the stations, along the platforms would catch up with them. The lack of safety and sanitation is why I drive.
Affordability. All this talk and nothing about delivering an affordable transit system. This is BART’s doing. Raising prices to compensate for the losses is not going to work.
BART did good reducing service from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes, that's a 25% reduction in potential salaries/benefits to train operators, but then had one line that apparently had more riders and the increased the frequency to 10 minutes which ends up cutting that reduction in half. Now sure train operators probably make up a small portion of total personnel but BART simply doesn't know how to cut back. Any other business or service sees 1/10th of the customers it does, they end up trying to find a way to reduce overall costs, they don't spend more.
How to bring back riders? 1) Bring back the seats!---Not just more seats, like the old days, but the old comfortable cloth seats (not those plastic things). Thrain cars don't need 6 doors (they did just fine with only 4). 2) Bring back the paper tickets---and, don't penalize casual riders for using the paper tickets. Also, on those "Clipper" passes, put rules in place so users can be confident that their movements are being tracked, recorded, and stored in perpetuity.
An increase in the influence of women in public life has often been associated with national decline. The later Romans complained that, although Rome ruled the world, women ruled Rome. In the tenth century, a similar tendency was observable in the Arab Empire, the women demanding admission to the professions hitherto monopolised by men. ‘What,’ wrote the contemporary historian, Ibn Bessam, ‘have the professions of clerk, tax-collector or preacher to do with women? These occupations have always been limited to men alone.’ Many women practised law, while others obtained posts as university professors. There was an agitation for the appointment of female judges, which, however, does not appear to have succeeded. Soon after this period, government and public order collapsed, and foreign invaders overran the country. The resulting increase in confusion and violence made it unsafe for women to move unescorted in the streets, with the result that this feminist movement collapsed.
The fares are too high. It defeats the purpose of a public transportation system. Stop using the public like a bank and start managing more efficiently.
What a shame it would be to lose BART! It would be a civilizational decline, especially in the age of climate change! NY governor recently deployed National Guard and state police on NYC subways to curb violence! We need similar action from our governor. Let’s not conflate crime with homelessness and drug use. To feel safe, we just need to go after crime. And have compassion for the homeless and drug addicts, and use crisis intervention officers. BART is not an island, problems of the region get onboard too! Let’s deal with them regionally.
1:58 - Safe relaxing travel. LOL What a gas! The BART train is filled with half crazed screaming lunatics literally smoking crack inside the train while expelling bodily fluids. Gee. I wonder why no sane person wants to ride BART? But, seriously, I do ride BART, I enjoy BART, and most of the time it's alright. However, I have had scary experiences with unstable individuals on BART. I just expect to feel safe while riding - but, that's never going to happen with all the fare evaders and BART trains doubling as a homeless shelter - with people often smoking cigarettes on the train - and sometimes smoking dangerous drugs. Why is this even happening? Amtrak isn't like that. Uber isn't like that. Southwest Airlines isn't like that. So, why is BART like this?
Idiotic to add a rail system that does not run on electricity. Even more idiotic than the BART extension to Antioch using rails that don\t accept Bart trains.
It never mattered if BART worked or not. What mattered was that the donors that got paid to build it just like CA's bullet train to nowhere. Companies/donors are getting paid $billions to build it. Politics 101
Twice a year for the last 5 years I've had to work in bay area, everytime I could've taken Bart but I avoid it like the plague. The city (san fran) is a lost cause at this point. Utopian policies that make you feel good only go so far.
They need to make the Bart just like the Amtrak where a conductor won’t let you get on without the ticket and police are there to escort you away if you haven’t paid.
But it's not really possible during rush hour, I know I sometimes need to run to catch the connecting bus so I would hate to stand in line to show my ticket. How about just have someone watch the fare gate and stop people who slip in without paying?
Or the opposite would happen..... all the business occupying the high rise office building would move to other cities, housing and cost of living would drop as you didnt have millions of workers artificially propping up the labor camp that SF has become. Bart has Destroyed the Bay Area.
All public transportation has failed financially, it costs too much too launch, employees get paid too much, overhead is too high and the taxpayers suffer for the Socialist service. It’s the same way with the bus system in my small town but I used to live in the Bay Area when it was built. You park your car at the station and people break into it while you’re working in San Francisco and this was decades ago before I left. Probably not enough people riding it with all the people working from home these days. California is a failure overall, Gruesome…💯💩🗑
In some smaller towns around me, they actually tossed their bus systems and give free Uber/Lyft rides for the poorer people in the community. Win/Win. Employs more people, better service, lower cost, and better for the environment. A typical US city bus gets 2-4 MPG in traffic.
Duh! Because it’s not meant to make money. It’s meant to people to get from point a to b. Few transit systems globally make money. An example would be the MTR in Hong Kong
The fundamental problem is you cannot have a sustainable public transportation system if you don't think about how you handle the land around the stations. Take any city that sprawled on transit like New York or San Francisco and you see some density with greenspace and shopping within walking distance. If you want to boost ridership you need to redevelop the parking lots into a mixed use transit village. Also add lots of buses to further promote development near the transit corridor. It is tried and tested 100 years ago in New York City as it is now in Amsterdam.
This 100%!
True - connections buses are very bad. They're infrequent and run by a wide range of agencies that require you to pay an additional fare. You can only have so many buildings within walking distance of a train station, so it's important to have good bus and light rail connections.
@@empirestate8791- connections with buses are bad because you have a majority of drivers that are either retiring or are kicking the bucket for other jobs because they don’t feel safe
This is the solution. BART can utilize the land they own around stations to build up some destiny they can provide consistent revenue from rents and fares.
Fixing the safety perception and making some system adjustments can make BART soar.
@@Eddieanthony-fs7is No, buses are often bad because there are no bus lanes to stop the bus from getting stuck in the same traffic as motor vehicles. No one is saying that you need bus lanes everywhere, but you do need them on busy arterial roads and collector streets. Modal filters that only buses can pass through also help as well.
If you want more Riders on BART, have companies buy discounted tickets to give to their employees, so they can ride free as company's perks.
That way it can be a steady source of revenue.
They should be paying for this advice
Well, the Clipper card system is going to have a 50% discount for those that are low income next year. It's called the START program.
I believe BART (and the Clipper system as a whole) are planning to roll out an unlimited Bay Area regional transit pass which can be purchased by employers in the next year or so.
Bart was pretty good whenever I took it, they just gotta stop the criminals from riding.
Visible patrol by BART police on platform and trains.
But then how will City Hall employees get to work?
1972: pamper the passenger
2023: where are the passengers?
In the 30 years I have been in the Bay Area and a BART customer, they have made only two changes Zi like:
1. replacement of carpeting in cars with a composite material.
2. installation of elevators in some places where they were needed.
They have made more significant changes which I don’t like at all:
1. Severely reduced the number of seats.
2. Stopped using the paper tickets.
7:37 Guy with the big dog has his own security😂
Why is the dog in the seat???? He part of the problem, small part, but a part.
Since a lot of people in San Francisco don't have cars and use the public system. Their animals need a way to get around as well . As a Bart employee working in the city
@@rebeccalane7691 As a Muni employee, they can bring their animals, but not on the seats. They’re suppose to stay on the floor.
how about the feds give BART more money like they do the freeways
In my opinion and observations
All govt transport in california
Bay area run empty mostly
A few riders , one or two
They hardly go most places
Basicly they do not cover
Destinations that are needed
IN MY OPINION
ALL GOVT TRANSPORT THAT
DO NOT SUPPORT ITS EXPENSES OR COST OF OPERATING ON THE PLUS
SIDE SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN.
Same happing with bart
The fare is way too high
Then no this no that
One should have a e scoot or
Bike with pedals to complete
Ones trip after and b4 u ride
Bart or take uber
So for all that drill
Y 0 just drive out there and
Do what ever you like to do
In the car
Eat,drink,smoke, fart, yell,shout
Kick,curse,
I mean one is free and with a few
Gallons you arrive you destination
Fuc bartfart
@@plusblood5101 So you'd support destroying all our highways and airports solely because they require subsidies to be financially sustainable? Don't think there's gonna be any ride for the price of a few gallons of gas in your car after we do that!
@chasemartin4450 this didn't age well as Newsome and CalTrans are looking at charging vehicle drivers by the mile.
San Francisco rolled out the red carpet to madness. Here in Portland, Oregon, we face similar challenges with rampant use of hard drugs in public, homelessness, and mental illness, and the impacts that individuals with serious life problems have on public safety for passengers on our MAX trains, downtown streetcars, and TriMet buses. Effectively addressing the issues of the population of mentally ill or drug addicted homeless people will improve safety on public transportation, increase ridership, and thereby improve the financial picture for these systems. So, an investment in addressing homelessness is, indirectly, an investment in the public transportation system.
Just rode the BART the other day to attend APEC in San Francisco, i saw a homeless man pants down ass out ON the seat… another time, a homeless person smoking crack. If there’s one thing i would suggest is to make SAFETY a #1 priority. The fact that even I feel uncomfortable riding it, a dozen more people are avoiding BART altogether.
yuk i hate the chemically smell of crack filling the train cabin. people should limit themselves to meth while riding bart because at least it smells sweet.
I take bart two days a week and I think trains have been a lot cleaner. A lot of the problems come from people, like a while ago someone was smoking inside a train, smoking! Like you know it's an enclosed space and it's already very stuffy, and sir you think it's ok to smoke? People must have reported it on the app because a few minutes later a voice from the intercom says no smoking is allowed inside.
They already know the issues.. why do they keep acting so stupid..?
BART is awesome! JUST MAKE IT SAFE AND CLEAN. You know the bare minimum. We are gonna ruin our city with these officials
The city is already ruined with those officials that just spend money but do nothing
@@Eddieanthony-fs7is I hear you, but we can’t give up hope! Let’s rebuild if we have to 🫡
The main issue is the board are still in la la land when it comes to fiscal responsibility.
Ok. You don't support a cut of 10% of services. Fine. So how are you going to continue funding a service that has lost 60% of it's riders and heading into a fiscal cliff in the next few years? Crickets.
Well said! No one likes waiting an extra 5 minutes for a train, but if that's what is required to keep the system going until the deficit is brought up, fine so be it. My issue is it seems like BART is like any other transit agency, they just keep spending money on useless crap and then cry poor when the money runs out, instead of going "Alright, how can we become more self-sufficient?"
Another EBART with more local connections as well as feeding into the greater system? Why hasn't this been done 10 years ago?
I was Bart today someone behind me started smoking crack I see no change lol
Bart did this to themselves with bad decision after bad decision.
Yet they're acting so fken surprised like tf...?..
Why didn't anyone talk about saving money by making all of the highways in the Bay Area three lanes between each exit, and just two between the off and on ramps? That would save on the ever increasing maintenance costs. Oh, that's right, all of the calling for cuts in public transport prefer to drive and probably think that my idea is crazy. The Bay Area already screwed up once by getting rid of the Key System, and I would argue that allowing the destruction of the Key System and getting people into cars is probably the primary reason for all of the traffic in the Bay Area. It cost so much money to build BART, letting BART go, and later trying to build a third public transport system for the East Bay will be even more expensive than keeping BART going.
Jim Wunderman gets it... Bart council all need to be replace, BART mission is to provide transportation around the bay, not social justice and reforms. I stop riding bart cause it's dirty, dangerous, and fare evaders causing trouble and doing drugs on the train.
28:40 - correction there is connection to the Livermore and the San Joaquin Valley from Dublin/Pleasanton. When you say at 30:53 there’s no public transit east of Dublin/Pleasanton Station, that is VERY MISLEADING. LAVTA runs several bus routes from Dublin Station to Livermore. Stanislaus County Transit runs a route to Modesto, SJRTD runs from Dublin to Tracy and Stockton, and then you have Amtrak Bus to Sacramento.
This is true, there are buses (and ACE) that make these trips. I'm sure what she probably meant was a fast high-capacity service, in the context of mass trans-Altamont commuting. I've traveled eastbound on FULL, 7- or 8-car ACE trains before and I'm sure no combination of Central Valley transit agencies has the available fleet to deploy that many buses twice a day across the Altamont to carry the same ACE load of passengers and still have room to serve their local trips.
@@Intersteightyyeah i think that in an ideal world, ace would simply be better and connect with Bart at downtown Livermore. İt's really comfy compared to Bart both in terms of rolling stock and safety. Just need to say like a country that actually wants to get people across the altamont quickly without a car, its too slow for not much of a good reason
1:43 I like how he caveats that with "first *all new*" because PATCO opened in January 1969 in New Jersey. It just wasn't *all new* because it used part of an existing tunnel at the Philly end of the line. Otherwise everything else that BART did, PATCO beat them to it by a few years.
As someone who now rides BART from Millbrae to Daily City, I have some thoughts on the system! As part of my SFSU tuition, I get free rides on BART and even then, it is still MEH overall. If BART wants to increase ridership, it NEEDS to actively show that it is trying to make the ride safer for people onboard and if that means clearing house with the current board, so be it. There are ways to reduce the deficit, but unpopular initiatives are going to be required to pull that off.
My main issue with the tax to raise funds for BART is that we are already being taxed heavily and for what? There is nothing to show for it, and I feel like BART needs to prove it's being fiscally responsible BEFORE it gets any more money, that potentially will just get spent on useless crap.
It's simple. Riders pay fares and taxpayers cover a significant shortfall in the BART budget. They should expect a system that only lets fare-paying customers onto the platforms and trains, a system that is clean, and a system that is safe. Despite paying exorbitant amounts into high wages, including overly generous benefits, ludicrous overtime allowances, and pensions you would never see in private industries, we have none of the things we paid for. The fare-evaders rule the roost (and the chairs for the elderly and disabled), there is filth all around, and the trains and stations are magnets for predators. It's money being thrown into an deep, dark hole. And, then, we get the periodic shutdowns when the unions don't get their way. Let the era of BART end. Let it, and those one-sided contracts, be no longer a drain on the budgets of families and local governments. Then start over. It's the only way.
BART fares keep going up all the time. It used to be 60 cents and now it's over two dollars. One round trip can be between $80 to $120 a month. Bringing the fares down might help a little bit.
You have to compare that to the bridge toll and the parking fees in the city.
Instead of expanding, focus on making more connections across from the east bay to the peninsula. How about making another connection from san mateo bridge end to end, same with dumbarton. I would love to tak bart but I live in San Leandro and work in Burlingame, too many stops on the way there.
Bart rider, Harvey Zhou has an Americanized voice
if we're going use tax money to pay for bart, then bart need to give up their large salaries and everyone gutted out, and the public own bart like any public utiliies.
They need engineers running the board who primarily focus on safety and transport worthiness. Anything outside of this is clear path for system degradation.
What about all the green movement people? Are they driving cars?
I'm riding transit though
Yep.
hire more police and people will use it
Fifty years later, San Mateo County owns the shame of BART still incompletely running down the peninsula.
Wow!!! Wow!!!
At the exit of the Montgomery station I get off, there are two elevators with two full time employed staff that does absolutely nothing but wait for someone to get on the elevators. I have seen less than a dozen people get on over the years. They either sleep or are on their phones. Bart has full medical and pension. Trim the fat. Administrative cost is insane.
I will never speak positively about Bart even though I rely on it. I wouldn’t shed a tear if I have to drive in. I’ve encountered so many douchebag employees especially on a the 12th street oakland.
BART is late almost every other time I take it. Once there was police activity and I just got off and called an Uber. BART technology is a joke.
Lastly, they’ve jacked up fares every year, parking fees, reduced cars, reduced frequency, all in wreck-less spending with no improvements to show for it.
They are not BART employees.
I knew the excess pee pee poo poo on the trains, in the stations, along the platforms would catch up with them. The lack of safety and sanitation is why I drive.
Affordability. All this talk and nothing about delivering an affordable transit system. This is BART’s doing. Raising prices to compensate for the losses is not going to work.
BART did good reducing service from every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes, that's a 25% reduction in potential salaries/benefits to train operators, but then had one line that apparently had more riders and the increased the frequency to 10 minutes which ends up cutting that reduction in half. Now sure train operators probably make up a small portion of total personnel but BART simply doesn't know how to cut back. Any other business or service sees 1/10th of the customers it does, they end up trying to find a way to reduce overall costs, they don't spend more.
The problem is cutting service can send BART into a death spiral. Cutting service makes BART less convenient and will reduce ridership.
How to bring back riders?
1) Bring back the seats!---Not just more seats, like the old days, but the old comfortable cloth seats (not those plastic things). Thrain cars don't need 6 doors (they did just fine with only 4).
2) Bring back the paper tickets---and, don't penalize casual riders for using the paper tickets. Also, on those "Clipper" passes, put rules in place so users can be confident that their movements are being tracked, recorded, and stored in perpetuity.
Ok your chasing away people & businesses with crime & taxes
What did you expect
The best part about riding BART is having to pay $8 to stand while a bum pays $0 to sleep and take two seats.
6 o'clock saturday morning?
An increase in the influence of women in public life has often been associated with national decline. The later Romans complained that, although Rome ruled the world, women ruled Rome. In the tenth century, a similar tendency was observable in the Arab Empire, the women demanding admission to the professions hitherto monopolised by men. ‘What,’ wrote the contemporary historian, Ibn Bessam, ‘have the professions of clerk, tax-collector or preacher to do with women? These occupations have always been limited to men alone.’ Many women practised law, while others obtained posts as university professors. There was an agitation for the appointment of female judges, which, however, does not appear to have succeeded.
Soon after this period, government and public order collapsed, and foreign invaders overran the country. The resulting increase in confusion and violence made it unsafe for women to move unescorted in the streets, with the result that this feminist movement collapsed.
BART should double the price of fares to keep the peasants from riding
The fares are too high. It defeats the purpose of a public transportation system. Stop using the public like a bank and start managing more efficiently.
Look at who’s the DA in those areas
What a shame it would be to lose BART! It would be a civilizational decline, especially in the age of climate change! NY governor recently deployed National Guard and state police on NYC subways to curb violence! We need similar action from our governor. Let’s not conflate crime with homelessness and drug use. To feel safe, we just need to go after crime. And have compassion for the homeless and drug addicts, and use crisis intervention officers. BART is not an island, problems of the region get onboard too! Let’s deal with them regionally.
1:58 - Safe relaxing travel. LOL What a gas! The BART train is filled with half crazed screaming lunatics literally smoking crack inside the train while expelling bodily fluids. Gee. I wonder why no sane person wants to ride BART? But, seriously, I do ride BART, I enjoy BART, and most of the time it's alright. However, I have had scary experiences with unstable individuals on BART. I just expect to feel safe while riding - but, that's never going to happen with all the fare evaders and BART trains doubling as a homeless shelter - with people often smoking cigarettes on the train - and sometimes smoking dangerous drugs. Why is this even happening? Amtrak isn't like that. Uber isn't like that. Southwest Airlines isn't like that. So, why is BART like this?
Turn a business into a political platform.
This mayor is real.
Idiotic to add a rail system that does not run on electricity. Even more idiotic than the BART extension to Antioch using rails that don\t accept Bart trains.
Privatize it and you will see gold
It’s PUBLIC transit. It’s not meant to make money
Should have just modified the existing KEY system
Every one is still missing the point. The service is terribly unreliable ! I rode it and gave up. Went back to driving. Lousy service.
bart needs to be faster, driving is the same amt of time for me. id rather pay $40 to park in a garage and drive my own car
It never mattered if BART worked or not. What mattered was that the donors that got paid to build it just like CA's bullet train to nowhere. Companies/donors are getting paid $billions to build it. Politics 101
Twice a year for the last 5 years I've had to work in bay area, everytime I could've taken Bart but I avoid it like the plague. The city (san fran) is a lost cause at this point. Utopian policies that make you feel good only go so far.
How much is the marketing team paying media for all these begging plea advertisements they’re producing.
They need to make the Bart just like the Amtrak where a conductor won’t let you get on without the ticket and police are there to escort you away if you haven’t paid.
But it's not really possible during rush hour, I know I sometimes need to run to catch the connecting bus so I would hate to stand in line to show my ticket. How about just have someone watch the fare gate and stop people who slip in without paying?
it is just too dirty and dangerous to take BART. Why do people need to take high risk to commute?
Or the opposite would happen..... all the business occupying the high rise office building would move to other cities, housing and cost of living would drop as you didnt have millions of workers artificially propping up the labor camp that SF has become. Bart has Destroyed the Bay Area.
I am ALPHA,NOT OMEGA now.
LOL... This seems like a dystopian parody like Demolition Man! You people are delusional! Her wife! LOL.. I think you solved the problem
Someone needs to make sure there aren't evaders just riding/sleeping all day which is what I see every time I ride BART
Check out some of China's subway trains and stations. THEN, you'll see the RIGHT way to do it!
BART need to raise taxes both sales and property tax to pay for salaries.
All public transportation has failed financially, it costs too much too launch, employees get paid too much, overhead is too high and the taxpayers suffer for the Socialist service. It’s the same way with the bus system in my small town but I used to live in the Bay Area when it was built. You park your car at the station and people break into it while you’re working in San Francisco and this was decades ago before I left. Probably not enough people riding it with all the people working from home these days. California is a failure overall, Gruesome…💯💩🗑
In some smaller towns around me, they actually tossed their bus systems and give free Uber/Lyft rides for the poorer people in the community. Win/Win. Employs more people, better service, lower cost, and better for the environment. A typical US city bus gets 2-4 MPG in traffic.
Duh! Because it’s not meant to make money. It’s meant to people to get from point a to b. Few transit systems globally make money. An example would be the MTR in Hong Kong
😂😅pandemic was a nail in the coffin
OH YOU SHUT UP, ERIC THE TRUMPSTER FREAK AND THAT IS SO NOT FUNNY!!!!!