1st AG brew day on electric brewery
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2014
- Well my first all-grain brew day is over and the beer is sitting in the fermentation fridge. This video was filmed primary for my benefit and to accompany the notes I took on the day, its fairly long but shows you the entire process I followed, and I highlight some mistakes I made which can be easily corrected next time.
The day did not go without problems but I had a blast and the beer looks, smells and tastes fantastic! I can't wait for the yeast to do its thing and give me back some wonderful hand-made beer! Cheers
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OH!!! MY GOD!!! A real Life, THE WAY IT REALLY WORKS ON BREW DAY VIDEO... Thank you for being real and telling the truth!!!! I'm IN!!!
Great video! You don't see a lot of this real snapshot into a brewer's journey on UA-cam...I loved it! Thanks for sharing!
That was awesome! Always like seeing the process and issues that come up. Thanks for sharing!
Great brew day lovely bit of kit you have there, loved this vlog cheers
This is as excellent as it is entertaining. A hat tip to a man who can laugh at his own mistakes.
Great video, it's nice to see others having "those days" as well :)
Viv, I hope you get back to your HBW's. You have a great system, and great delivery of your vids. It's great to hear you are dialed in now. Cheers!
You Sir, are a bloody champion!! I'm weeks if not days out from being at the stage you're at right now! Thanks for sharing, you've given me a fantastic insight as to how my first brew day might go. I'll be sure to attempt to get it on film too. Thanks man, I've learnt a fair bit from your vid! Cheers Viv
Easily my favourite brew day video! Entertaining and informative.
Wow that was a a great first brew day. My normal brew days don't go as well. And nice system build
Always good to see you, Nice brew
Great work! Thank you for sharing. Loved the grain clean out haha.... My favorite part of the brew day to hate! Cheers!
Nice mini brewery setup I wish I had a room like that for my still.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your mistakes. Too many people leave those out and leave us to repeat their mistakes. I appreciate the video. Thanks.
Lots of great info there, thanks. Now to build my own!
Very educational, it's nice to see how someone handles mishaps on the fly instead of trying to make a perfect video. Cheers
This video was great. I loved everything that went wrong! it reminded me of most of my brew day adventures for the first 4 years of brewing. I never had the courage to video document my mistakes, but I did author an e-book documenting all the batches i've thrown away over the years. "Decent Homebrewer / Bad Learner" Cheers! Good luck - I hope youre brew days have gotten easier/better!
Nice one buddy! I have my first electric brewday this Saturday :)
Mate - excellent video! You should be on TV although I know you kinda are. Well done. Setup looks amazing
Not sure if this has been already covered because I have not gone back and read others comments... but... no need to worry about hot side aeration, that will happen when transferring the hot wort into your boil kettle, not when transferring cooled wort from the kettle into a fermenter, and anyways it is only important if you need shelf stable beer (i.e. ageing or selling across state line). And all that gunk will fall out during fermentation and a cold crash, use a fining agent and don't fear the gunk, you left all that beautiful wort in your kettle. Awesome set up, I'm super jealous of the floor drain.
Great setup. one tip for the mash temp to stay more accurate is to place the probe right before i pores out on the mash, the you can compensate for the hoses cooling it down
I would love to see a new brew.. i learned a lot from this.
Hopefully we will see more brewing videos from you in 2016. I'm just going for eHERMS myself and I've found this video to be the one of the best in UA-cam so far.
I use a similar system her the States. One thing I do is pump the water after hitting the strike temp and then whilke the water in the latur ton is coming up I just let it sit. I then circulate to bring the strike water to temp. I then stir in the grain to break up any dough balls. It is a pain but it works the best and my efficiency is at 87%. I also find in my system I have to set the latur ton temp about 2 to 4 degrees (F) higher then the mash to keep it at temp as the wor tis circulating through the HERMS.
We've all been there son! I don't brew anything without my wife right there. Many times she has asked: "What's this tap for .?", and I've gone "Shit!"
Haha, Deja vu! No worries, by your 4th brew on this system you will have it all worked out. I recommend doing a brew or two off camera and just focus the process. Also, I highly recommend getting a sight gauge at least on your HLT. Very nice to use so you can fill it up and have plenty of extra water when needed. I'm sure you've got lots of lessons learned from this first experience, so I'm sure you'll get it. Best regards. Cheers!
Tony Yates Yep ... brewing again this weekend and don't feel the need to film that, maybe just a quick wrap up for HBW next week. I was going to put the sight glass into the HLT before this brew but after almost a year building this thing I just wanted to use it! It's sitting on the shelf so will go in this weekend before the next brew.
Great video. I'm about 6 brews in on a system very similar to yours (after upgrading from propane outdoor burner also) Good to see others with same struggles. What did you ever do to resolve the temp diff between MT PID and HLT PID's? Love to see a video now years later with your process nailed down better and point out some of the mistakes you used to make along the way and what you do different now....
I want to thank you for this.... I almost have my system built and I am not far off from my first brew day and I am pretty stressed about it. There are a lot of moving parts involved in this and where my systems wont be quite as robust as yours so I am crossing my fingers.
You could make content about anything and I'd still watch. Just like chilling with a old mate after all this time haha
Been following this on AHB, great to see vids of it all going! Not long till my panel is up and running now and I keep seeing things in your build I want to buy!
How long did it take to go from boiling to 23c? I'm considering a plate chiller or the immersion chiller I have already.
p.s. Take the protective plastic off the key housing!
I've heard people use dried coffee grounds and tea leaves as ground cover in their terrain projects. Maybe excess grains can be dried out and used the same way? It would add some nice texture to your home made flock.
Great as usual Viv. One question, what's the music from? It sounds familiar
Hello great video, how big at your brew pots and where did you but them
Awesome video
I have a Kal Klone too. Keep taking notes of the ambient temperature of the grain and the environment, how hot you mash in and the resultant temperature and within a few brew days you will nail it down. I need to go about 10 degrees F over my mashin temp to hit my temperature. this is a good thing for my system as I can then add water to my HLT and it will bring the HLT down to the correct temperature.
Just noticed that this is almost 4 years old... How is it going today??
It looks like you know the process. Maybe simple pilots checklist with different phases to let you make a consistent result. You could revise that checklist with each thing learned and it would automatically cue you along.
Although I don’t know Russian, I even ate the whole brewing order. Krasavchik. I will make the same brewery.
Nice system bud. Calibrating a new system is always a troubleshoot but that is part of the cool experience of home brewing. Just one comment: Most of the starch conversion is completed in the first 20 to 30 minutes so if you under pitch your temps there is not much you can do unless you can make the change right away. I keep boiled water ready on the side and add some to the mash as needed. that keeps my temps where I want. Nice video though. Brew On Man!
johhnyglaze1 - Thanks for the comment and the info ... I've managed to tune the system in reasonably well now and not only found pretty much the right temperature for the strike water to dial in the initial mash temp I need, but also to achieve fairly rapid ramp times. Thanks for watching!
Hahaha, a real brew day. My star San did the same on both caps.
Any reason why you decided not to collect the hot drain water from the cooling process? Perfect for cleaning the gear after brewing, I would have thought... :)
This was a very entraining vid. I've been brewing since 1999 and I still have brew days like that so way to laugh it off. Trust me, some mistakes I still do over and over again. 2 years later I'm sure you've had better luck but I'm sure you've messed up the ball valves again. So again good vid I enjoyed it. Cheers!
I was having a similar issue to you with trying to heat the strike water in time and unfortunately 2400w is the most powerful element without getting a 15A circuit installed in the house. My solution was to connect the recirculating pump to the PID on the mash tun (used to only show temp). Now I fill the MT with strike water, set the MT PID to strike temp and then start heating the HLT to sparge temp. Once at sparge temp I dough in. The MT PID then turns the pump on as required to hold the MT at temp. The pump is on a 3 position rotary switch (on-off-PID) so I can still use it manually. I noticed you have a PID for you MT so should work for you too.
Yeah, that is what I do ... though I run 5500w elements on a 32 amp circuit in my warehouse. My wife's dad is a sparky so he's installed a dedicated 32amp circuit and socket in our garage at home, the brewery has been relocated there
To avoid leaks on first brew day, make sure that you do your leak tests by filling the vessels to max capacity. If you only fill above the port in question, you won't be testing it with the pressure it would actually be under during a brew session.
like that you kept the mistakes in the video, nobody is perfect brotha, cheers and brew on!
great vid, beautiful setup, i guess minor flaws are just normal and part of a first time try-out :)
Geat job! Thanks
Is that a DIY herms coil? I like it.
Yes, the entire setup was built by me ... including the control panel
Notice you have the same control panel as Tony. Did you guys build and wire your own or buy it outright?
Make a Volcano with your big foam blocks! :D
Hi Gordon, I can't seem to reply directly to your comment ... I built the panel from scratch, following some directions from theelectricbrewery.com and other forums. Cheers
+RubbishInRubbishOut how are the other batches coming out? are they clearer?
great set up you got there.. what strength will the brew be?
Cheers, the target is 5.8% so not a big'ish beer but hopefully the yeast attenuates properly and finishes its job and we get to that percentage!
Love the system, but that metal table you have under your kettles looks like a great heat sink XD
+Nicolas Piper - It's a MASSIVE heat sink ... I haven't brewed for a while (need to replace some rusted elements) but I have insulated matts that sit under and around the mash tun and the kettle now
There you go mate, sounds good. What sort of stuff are you planning on brewing nowadays? Can I ask where you got your pumps from?
Cool video mate, mmmmmm beeeer
Now comes the drinking. With 42 liters that should be interesting.
The MASH PID is supposed to be switched to the HLT element when mashing. Thats the idea let it do all the work so you don't have futz with it. It's math is way better then ours. Someone chinced out on the DPDT switch to select either PID to control the HLT element. That will help big time!
Also for the heating element did you auto tune the PID? Check out theeclectricbrewery.com you will see a easy step by step set up guide. The panel looks the same as mine so I assume you have seen this. Just a little help
Thanks mate. Yeah, my system was heavily influenced by Kal's design. I've brewed on it several times now and am slowly tuning everything in each time I brew. The PIDs were auto-tuned, yes. The issue with ramp times has been solved by simply restricting the flow through the pump from the mash tun through the HERMs in the HLT, I can ramp up around 1C per minute now. The efficiency you mention, is that the mash efficiency or brew house efficiency? My mash efficiency is around 86%, according to my last brew and beersmith (and overall brew house efficiency of ~78%). Thanks for your comments. Cheers
Yeah that is my mash efficiency as well I am similar with my brew house efficiency but when you look at the majority of home brewers using gas they are around a efficiency of ~68 to ~70 for brew house and only getting ~70 to ~72 of the mash so we are doing pretty well. I live in Montana so we have -30 F weather and brewing outside is not an option during the winter so with electric I am able to go year round in my basement. Cheers. Let me know if you come up with any other improvements. I never thought about changing the output % to 90 on the boil PID. Did you find this to help with keeping the rolling boil getting to vigorous?
sgtdclark83 It certainly helped! before at 100% output is was volcanic ... at 90% its just right, it also reduced the boil off rate from 12 litres (~3.1 gallons) per hour to 8 (2.1gl)
RubbishInRubbishOut Hope brewing is going well. Any words of advice on tuning these panels. I have been playing with mine and still don't think I have it 100%? Cheers
Awesome setup. How much was the whole set-up? Was it a singular project or did you slowly put this together over time?
Donze It took me about a year to get everything together ... I spent more than it costs due to trial and error, but for what is being used it probably cost around 2.5k
Im guessing thats in pounds not dollars, haha.
Australian dollars :D
this is your set up for your first all grain brew? really going for broke! I'm a little jealous, i would love this set up. If i ever come into 5 grand i'm buying the spike herms set up
Hehe. When i get into something, I get carried away easily! Now I've brewed on it for a few years I can almost use it blind folded. Brew days have become an awesome and relaxed experience
RubbishInRubbishOut do you just brew for yourself? Or???
Sorry I’m new to your videos but I’m going to check out some more. I’m new to brewing.
Yeah, just myself. My neighbor who also brews has started using my brewery rather than the extract kits he was doing before
Where did you buy this kit from and how much is this it?
@@splodgesj ... i built this. If i built it all again (including the control panel) it would cost between aud$1800-2000
Can't you fit another element in your hlt bud? Speed things up for you.
Not really, there is a 5500w element in the HLT it should certainly be capable of ramping the temp easily enough. What I did do though, was limit the flow of the wort through the pump so that it flows much more slowly through the HERMS coil, thus increasing the heat exchange transfer between the water and the wort. I've subsequently been able to ramp the wort now at around 1c per minute, which is fine. Thanks for watching!
RubbishInRubbishOut ahhh brilliant!
Just wondering how much does it cost to have this setup ?
discusctx - hehe, lots! I probably spent around $3k building this brewery ... it could be done for less, but there was a lot of trial and error - parts that didn't work etc. You could build a much simpler brewer that brews exactly the same beer for a fraction of what I spent too.
It looks like you have a few thousand bucks into that electric controller unit, nice.
You wont get Hot side aeration when your wort is cooled already. That's what you want it to aerate the wort. That gunk you talk about will settle out during fermentation.
Ha! Thought that this was the beginning of a brewing series... most of your playlists are TRPGs... interesting
Hilarious. Thank you.
hahaha.. your brew days look like mine.. :D
Practice makes better mate.
Nice video RubbishInRubbishOut. How did your beer turn out?
By now you probably figured this out, but the reason so much protein was still left behind in your chilled wort and not bunched up in middle is due to wort chiller being placed inside kettle. That disrupts it. In our 30 gal setup we whirlpool for 20 mins. At that time everything is neatly and tightly packed up in middle of kettle. We then chill right into fermenter at temperature using a jaded CFC, that we affectionally call the Trombone, as it looks like one. Cheers mate, send me an email at roberto.rivera@riverainstruments.com, i travel to UK often with work and love to exchange brews with you.
top job bud /. love my grainfather .. . I do still tip my hat to you guys who like to build these rigs .. far harder than it has to be :P
I have heard that dogs can be poisoned by hops. Careful with those dog biscuits.
Yep, hops are dangerous for most dogs. There is no hops anywhere near these biscuits ... hops don't get added until later in the process, these grains have been taken from the mash tun - no hops in there :)
Great Video. Could do without the music.
Didn't we agree on 1 brewing video, 1 mini wargaming/terrain video, then 1 brewing video, ect? ;)
Karsten Fjellheim Now my brewery is running (after a year in the buying/building/planning) and I can use it when I want to, I can get back other hobbies now :)
RubbishInRubbishOut
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note to self......dont drnk your beer.
you should relax more. Nature takes it's course, 66 won't give you the best alpha / beta value, but you'll be happy with the result, untill proven better. Don't push it.
No, it shouldn't work like this, sorry but....no.
+Luca Cogoni - Not sure what the problem is, after learning how my system works and fine tuning my settings in Beersmith I've made some very good beer on this brewery!