God I wish they would just make up. Losing Caff wasn't a major loss but now Sjin and Turps? 2 Core members lost who constantly supported the channel and community. It hurts more as just like Sips many of us grew up with them
@Poke Poke Sjin was in murky waters years ago. Some stuff arose when Tuetron left, and I can only imagine he's taking his leave now because Turps, who had a higher-power position in the company and was accused of practically the same thing, stepped down of his own accord. It would be (or it may be seen as) hypocritical for him to not do the same
@@Cthulhu621 He's been in vids with all of them, close with everyone though? He's done hundreds of episodes of skyblock with HatFilms and Lewis has traded art with Sips' son lol
@@Cthulhu621 he's done videos with them but he's not really collaborated with them like he has Sjin, Turps, Lewis and Hat Films. I think Sips was meaning people he's done series or videos with specifically.
I always felt Sips was sort of the outlier among the yogscast, saw his early stuff and he was always branded as SIPS, not so much yogscast. He has a real grip on his identity, what he is, does, likes, etc etc. Sips is a man who goes with the flow, tries to not get caught up in things that aren't important in the long run. I think that's something to respect and admire, and part of his long-lasting appeal.
Noblesseux Flax is short tempered, self centered, and self serving. I can’t watch his content. I subbed to Hat Films when they only had 24,000 subs and weren’t apart of Yogscast and they were fricking brilliant, funny, and witty. They reminded me of Monty Python. Then they got big and started pandering their humor to attract 12 year old boys for subs. Everything is vulgar and immature now. Sips can still be vulgar, but he doesn’t shove it down your throat every minute. He just lets it happen you know. Has fun with it. Isn’t forced. Then goes on about something else. He’s so mellow that I love listening to him at night when I go to sleep. Really respect his class and maturity and self deprivation and his ability to say fuck it and have fun. He deserves all the best.
Biff Bash Bosh &@@noblesseuxMaybe it's just the magic of being a dad. That said I guess it didn't work for PFlax -- I can't help picturing his kid watching his dad's vids (the Team DD vids of them playing pre-release Divinity: OS 2 come to mind because he made them practically unwatchable) out of curiosity and seeing him getting legitimately angry over a computer game and making things really awkward by taking a game so seriously. Meanwhile Sips' videos (or at least before he quit posting on his channel) are always lighthearted and stuff like his editing jokes in his Skyrim vids is basically the definition of "dad humor."
Biff Bash Bosh it’s a bit like Tom channel. It’s not called Yogscast Tom it’s Angory Tom the name he came up with. He doesn’t really associate with the Yogscast on his channel it’s just him it’s Toms channel not the Yogscasts.
Suprised there is no addition comments, but yeah, it is sad, there was clearly good times between them and it's a shame that it will hinder everyone's work and morals.
@@drummerb0y4tune I don't wanna speak for Tash, but I'd imagine it's because now two people that Sips has been close to and created content that he loved with are gone.
He seems a little pissed honestly. Which I wouldn't blame him for. The whole Yogscast paid a price for the controversy Sjin and Turps caused. A lot of the yogs are pretty independent in their content, Sips is one, and it tarnishes their work and threatens their job security when individual members break these kinds of rules and start this kind of trouble. And with it being one after the other and then again for good measure, he's probably fed up with it.
@@andrewmiller8653 I've left an angry comment before, but I think you're making needless assumptions about Bibley's intentions. You can hear Sips' voice cracking up a bit throughout the video imo so I don't think it's even that ridiculous a situation.
@@Phagocytosis if you just continue to watch it you can see he's not sad just seems to be exasperated as he does throughout the whole video. The hand shaking just seems to be because it's resting on his chin while he's talking. I really think you guys are just projecting what you want to see onto him.
The fact that he mentions Lewis and hat films at the end really shows how out of left field this was for Sips. He had no idea this was going on and is probably really stressing him out because he has no clue what’s going to happen next
Yeah let's hope nobody else goes like Duncan because if he goes well in completely done everybody from my childhood would be gone apart from Simon and Lewis but it wouldn't be the same like it's not the same without sjin tbh haven't watched any Yogscast since he left feels bad man
This has happened with another one of my favorite content creators (The KingNappy) and it is such a bummer... I am surprised it is such growing problem amongst a group of people we watch daily...
Same, it's kind of hard to watch the Yogs now without thinking of Sjin being gone and all this drama they're in, but they're the only youtubers i really watch.
You can hear all the points in his voice when he is about to break, I can't even imagine how I would feel if someone closer to me had done something like this
Out of all the things I've ever read that is related to Sips, I never have once seen it to be this or did I ever even think of expecting this. When we can tell Sips is legit sad, it means things really could be better. I wish it to be better for him honestly, he seems to have been slapped in the face like the rest of us with all the sudden news, except for the fact that he was on an even more personal level with the other Yogs.
I don't think I've ever seen Sips' facade slip. He's always been a rock solid foundation of dry humor. Seeing him like this hit me harder than I thought it would.
Never seen ol' Sips like this. It hurts for everyone but all of the Yogs past and present are so strong. We'll all get through it together. Like Sips said; hopefully none of this will continue because it gives me a real reverse boner. All the best to Sips and everyone.
@@cannedbread3125 fuck you canned bread I mean is there a more disgusting product out there and your unhealthy with all your carbs I mean really no one likes you how are you still even a thing
Kaiserfi Man, that’s so shitty. If Lewis /wanted/ him gone it would have happened back during the initial allegations. Also I kinda feel bad for Sjin too because while he may have been unprofessional it’s really hard for me to imagine he did anything malicious.
@@bwood6337 If you read the old posts and proof of his messages it's really messed up. The girl admits to having led Sjin on to see what would happen but became uncomfortable when he kept flirting. Seems like a mistake in youth that has come back to bite him. Hoping for a statement of apology and him moving on.
Man I've been following the Yogscast for a while now and this is going to be weird. Sjin was definitely one of my favorite members, so it is conflicting to hear about things of this nature. Regardless of how you feel though, you really have to give it to Lewis for being decisive and drawing clear lines about what will and will not be tolerated at the Yogscast.
Well honestly I'm two things for sure: A business woman and a good judge of character. I've been watching these guys as long as they had a YT channel (either one of them) on and off again. I just came across this whole situation bc I really felt like watching some sjinanigans again but couldn't remember the name of the series I wanted to watch and so I came across this issue on google. After reading into it: Turps - knew he was a dirt bag since day 1 --- Caff - creeped me out since day1. I never got that feeling from Sjin. He was that cute awkward nerd. They are never good with these topics. I've seen my fair share of them being a gamer as long as I can remember but that doesn't make them predators, just idiots. It's actually quite charming if you can handle it and honestly not so different from the content they've put on the internet. As much as Lewis humours me he has quite the sexist streak to him a lot of times. It goes way too far and I remember listening to one of their early podcasts when they chatted about how he and Hannah met at the time. That whole situation wasn't exactly kosher either. So considering I never got a bad vibe from Sjin and the history of Lewis himself and the way the female members of the Yogscast to this day have to either clap back or take the casual sexism, it doesn't look to me like there would be a real strict line for missconduct. You simply can't casually throw some sexual harrassment into a stream - even if it is meant as a joke and I get that it is a joke, our generation is way less sensible than the kids nowadays, honestly I'm probably the worst: my teammates always knew I was probably the best player in the group and I wouldn't let any opportunity slide for an inuendo or dirty joke - but fire someone who might or might not have done the same in a DM. That's the biggest problem: I've read up on it and the two other people who gave a statement regarding it were Lewis, who said he is neither guilty nor innocent and Zoey (who I called since the first time I came across her fondly "The Bitch" who literally dates a fan) who went full on witchhunt. You've said Lewis was decisive and was drawing a clear line about what will and will not be tolerated, but I can't share your opinion here. There is no clear line. If you go simply by the moral standards there is no different between "flirting" and casual sexual harrassment on a stream or video and someone doing (allegedly) the same via DMs. So since I can't figure out what the issue actually is and there is clearly not a rule for sexual harrassment towards women in this company I need to look at it from a business woman's perspective. Ergo: This decision had nothing to do with being decisive or moral standards and purely with finances and the fear of losing them. It's simple, "banter" between people on a stream is considered entertainment but the second this "persona" behaviour bleeds even slightly into the world outside of the limited space these "personas" are allowed to have it becomes an issue with investors. Especially nowadays when most sponsors don't want to invest in less childfriendly entertainers they jump ship very quickly. You can only allow yourself being non PG / seemingly problematic if you are big enough and sorry to say Yogscast is not nearly big enough to balance the image hit a sponsor would get out with profit in such a case. So my educated guess would be that Sjin was simply a pawn that got sacrificed for the greater good since he was a target for the witchhunt of these internet social warriors. I honestly hope they didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater or how the saying goes (I did take a look at their social blade and they had a steady decline in subscribers for the main channel since the departure was announced before it they actually gained).
More bending to cowardice over proofless allegations. Seriously, this shit has become epidemical in America too: Women "come foreward" with so-called "imperical claims" that some male touched them in a way that scared them or adressed them in a uncharacteristically appropriate manner, and spin it so as it ALWAYS sounds the same between each claim: Alone and aggressive. I hate how it seems Hearsay is more listened to than our own fucking due-process. Much like our accused, these guys have EVERY right to stand and sue for even remotely possible false-witness defamation and Tortious Interference. There is a case happenening Right now in Texas with someone facing nearly identical claims, and did his accusers sue when this happened, apparently, "years and years" ago? No. Then they try to ruin his life? Well, he tried to reason why with them, but in the end, HE sued THEM as a final option. And in the months since, saif accusers have tripped, trampled, and distanced away from one another with uncoroberated stories, no-witness testimonies, and some very telling depositions that reveal A LOT in their overall demeanor. I know the obvious question: "why would they lie?" Ill do you one better: Why WOULDNT they? They all claim, because of the "pro-male problem" their lives were always horrible, put down, poked fun at, jeered, booed, etc. Is ANY of it true? Possibly. But its not a valid exscuse to demand a guy have his head and genitals severed and put on a platter (yes someone in the mentioned case ACTUALLY stated they wanted that). I argue if there isnt fully concrete evidence on ANY of the accused here, THEY should sue their accusers. See how well these claims actually hold up under official judicial scrutiny. Think the law shouldnt be involved in private lives? Thats where I gotta break your heart: The law is ALWAYS involved in our lives, no matter how minor our daily toil. The accusers have a right. But so do the accused. Thats how due process is. Dont like it? Tough shit. Judicial law is absolute. NO ONE denys due process.
@@nickname8619 In the aspect of truth, its really not. Plus, the same can be said of the accusers towards sjin. Thats money NONE of these MeToo zealots have either. Even if the case ends undecided, sjin likely has the means to pay it off rather fairly even-tide in, and I can only guess this, some 10 years at least? Yogscast HAD to have let him off with pension, and given their longeviry, they must have accumilated quite a coffer. Most accusers, however, do NOT have such moneyx and would likely be left in permanent legal fee debt, which basically cripples your credit forever. Its an even WORSE nightmare for them if sjiw would take action to that, compounded by the possibility if it IS found they did this solely to spite him, theyd be looking at some 20 years behind bars. At least Id HOPE the UK has such harshness against false-witness convictions. Shit like thus wouldnt BE so controvertial today otherwise. Sorry to sound like a "victim blamer" But the MeToo movement has a LOT of selfish harlots taking advantage of them too. The deserve to get called out just as much as any actual offenders. But when it comes to allegations like these I keep asking: WHY avoid legal or even basic law enforcement action? THEYRE the ones qualified to find evidence to ghese claims, NOT the people! I NEVER understood this avoidance of law encorcement. Not EVERY cop you come across is crooked. Sure theyre near emotionless and ALWAYS stoic, but THATS the entire point of the job aside from "upholding the law" Rules are everything. You break them or skirt around them, you BETTER have a plan to deal with the inevitable consequences of that. They ALWAYS come around eventually.
I can't express how well Sips has dealt with and addressed these recent issues. The kindness and morality Sips displays in these situations is admirable and I can't think of a better role model in that regard. Throughout all of this turmoil, Sips, more than anyone else, has been the voice of reason for me and handles these extremley difficult and personal ordeals with reason and grace. The nickname coined years ago still rings true. Sips is the Real guy. The Best guy. From us all, thank you Sips. I wish only the best for you, your family and the future, you inspire me every day to be a kinder, more understanding human being, and there is nothing I can personally do to pay that back to you. The example you set has not only changed me for the better, but it has touched and altered countless numbers of your fans and your impact is greater than I think you imagine. Before i get too emotional, let me drive the point home: Sips is an Honest Guy. A Loving Guy. The Best Guy.
Sips and Sjin are the guys that brought me into the yogscast, hurts like hell to watch them get torn apart. Stay strong, Sips. And remember, what happens in the hovel stays in the hovel.
Oh. Wow. I've been watching Yogscast for a very long time and I love them all but Sjin was always the most entertaining to watch with his next level trolls and clutch plays. So legendary. It pains me to think of him separate from Yogscast but when he does come back I will be glad. Sips is the best guy!
Sips and Sjin were one of the greatest duos in gaming, not just minecraft. I hate to believe that Sjin was capable of doing anything wrong but I don't have the full story and can't make assumptions either way. I'm with Sips in that I hope everything works out in the end.
As I heard sjin was awkwardly flirting with a fan(who wasn't underaged) and they flirted back jokingly. Overall it was all consentual and just awkward fun. But Then after a long time somone else found the conversation and sent it to lewis and told them sijn was making the fan uncomfortable.
@@joost1120 im curious as well because this was 2 years ago and #metoo was still a think people would do id hate for it to be true but can easily see a fan getting jealous and using this and twisting it in spite
You can hear the emotion in his voice in both videos. It's always hard when you find out someone had been doing something shitty while you were friends with them. I've seen it tear an irl community apart before, as some take a strong stand with the victim and others take an equally strong stand with the accused. Some people react with anger, treating it as a betrayal. Others flat out deny it even when there's evidence. Others still react like Sips, where it's almost like a friend had passed away. In any situation it's hard to reconcile lingering feelings of friendship with the newfound understanding of what they did. Respect to Sips for handling it so well, not making excuses for him or trying to pretend it didn't happen; just speaking it honestly.
takes ownership of the yogscast, finds way to remove toxic members or individuals undeserving of their positions, attempts to either leave himself or find a way to fix what they’ve created to let it peacefully continue or peacefully end
Not that I don't appreciate Lewis's and Sjin's posts on the situation, but their posts were too calculated. I'm glad to hear it personally explained by someone, even if it's Sips. Sips tried to explain it to the best of his ability, and it's good enough.
I mean, its very simple, sjin flirted with a fan, and apparently thats against tos, so he had to go. Its that simple but people are making it to be some sexual harassment thing when its not.
@@imbillb Also, Ive been here since world of world of warcraft, I remember what sjin got accused of, and if its that, then hannah deserves the boot for doxxing two kids, zoey for dating a fan, lewis for dating a fan, and many more...
Been following and watching the yog videos since day 1. Sjin has always been one of my favorite members. I miss him in all the newest videos already. Have and will always be a supporter of the yogs and sjin even if he isn't with them atm.
I think I would actually die inside if Lewis or Hatfilms got into trouble. HatFilms have been central to my formation from like 2013. I'm hoping that the older members like HF, Sips and Lewis have that sensibility not to have done anything stupid.
Smith does also have that infamous degree in PR which people forget about. He's an abrasive boy, but he's generally sensitive and smart when it matters. Hat Films as a trio are good at self-regulating between the three of them as well, as was said, but I can understand the worry- If one falls or dies the other two won't continue which is something they've said in the past. They've all kind of tried to branch out and do things by themselves as well, but hatfilms as an entity would be over. I'm personally not so worried- I've watched their content for over 7 years and in their community there was never whispers of wrong-doing, whereas sjin and caff had pockets of tumblr crying into the void about misconduct for years, sjin especially
Wow I never expected such a noble response from Sips. This shit seems to happen too often on UA-cam, but it is what it is. Good on him for doing the right thing and not jumping to defend Sjin.
I don't think it's a real concern, just people freaking out. Caff was bad, Turps was not as visibly bad, Sjin violated COC. The offenses are getting progressively lighter. The Yogscast still seems reasonably and emotionally unified and I HIGHLY doubt they'll be at each other's throats over innuendo in a TTT episode or some other little thing.
Sips has such a pure heart, no matter what becomes of Turps and Sjin as-well-as the accusations against them you can tell this hits hard, for him especially. Everyone please continue to be there for him and visit his streams, community support helps a lot I'm sure.
Shadow of israphel is still the greatest thing ever on UA-cam. I love the yogscast so much and I’ve watched every series multiple times. It’s so nostalgic and I still pray for an end to shadow of israphel. Those were the good old days
LeePalmer95 I remember this shit coming out years ago. like 4-5 years ago. apparently sjin would get Fan's numbers and be like "hey baby, I'm from the Yogscast" this whole ordeal reeks like a targeted harassment campaign.
@@whatisthepointofthis1 Well the only reason it got caught up like this was because caff was such a freak. The old ones were brought up by his ex who got let go from the yogscast and it was 100% some sort of vengenace play.
@@leepalmer9558 After reading about the person who burned sjin (who lead Sjin on because she is gay) I can't help but think this is some sort of weird destructive behavior
Personally I’m sure they’ll keep in touch because the yogscast for years always thought the allegations were bullshit so I fount now they suddenly think they’re worth losing a friendship over. But I doubt they’ll ever work together professionally again
Hot Take: Sjin will be guesting on certain Yogs independent content (not main channel) within a year. And certain Yogs will be on Sjin's stuff faster than that. Ben and Duncan already clearly don't object to the rest of their pre-recorded series going out on Sjin's channel.
@@LieuFang Yeah that's what I'm thinking, the worst thing about leaving the yogscast is probably the perks, also Sjin would probably have more of an opportunity to join things like SMPLive and other things!
Sips is amazing. He really is. That joke at the end felt like really weird. He didn’t want to say that, but got caught up in the moment and let his emotions out. This must really suck
I got the sense that he didn’t really know what he could or couldn’t say. He doesn’t want to say anything negative about Sjin cause he’s his friend and doesn’t want to defend him either as it would be seen by some as being uncaring towards the victims. These things are a minefield.
I’m genuinely heartbroken by this. Sjin was was favourite member of the yogs and didn’t deserve this. None of the Yogs videos will be the same without him.
Despite sips not having a lot of info on this, I’m sure people really appreciate him talking about it at all. It was always him and sjin so I think anything from sips is appreciated by fans.
I thought this was a joke video at first but then started looking at the comments and finished the video still can’t really believe it I have no more words other than thanks for all the great memories and laughs
The group yogscast of my childhood has always been ridgedog, Lewis and simon, sjin, and sips and duncan, and quite honestly it always will be. It really hurts me since I'm 22 years old and I've been watching the yogscast since i was 12, it really hurts to find out that such an important group such as the yogscast which has really positively impacted my school life is falling apart really doesn't feel good in my opinion... i stuck around for the jaffas, waited for the israphel continuation and stayed to see the original gang still playing together (not including ridgedog) sjin and sips always felt like the dynamic duo of the yogscast almost like the villain that was more interesting than the main character I really hope sjin and sips still try to play together, as silly as this sounds I kinda want to see the old gang playing minecraft similar to what they did with yoglabs, jaffa factory, and to interact with eachother mid episode like they did with jaffa factory and voltz, it really went to show that this was really a group of friends playing a game together.
I don't think there any more reason to watch it tbh, tom is still there but.. The fact that you know sjin will never be in one of them, which means no more sjin crazy plays... I need a break from the yogs. That's for sure
I've just come across this after sjin not showing up in uploads years ago, i was always curious but never looked into it, i hope that the journey ahead lights up for these guys
Thank you Sips, just being here. The Yogscast would be so little now without you, proving once and for all that he's the honest soul of the company. Where no one else feels able to talk about what's happening, in strides ol' Sips showing a human side that seems to be missing from the company as a whole in this time of crisis.
10 years ago I came across the yogscast as a small 8 year old boy. They gave me joy and helped me through hard times as I was bullied endlessly for my mental disabilities. But I always watched them. And continued to for 10 years. Now the yogscast are falling apart. And that child inside of me is crying endlessly. With it surfacing from now and then for the channel I loved the most is in trouble.
2020: Everyone in the Yogscast gets into a controversy and gets kicked out, leaving the entire Yogscast and all of its funds, assets, and property to Sips. tough in this scenario it would be kind of funny that for the mandatory TTT of the day Sips just runs around alone by himself for 15 minutes looking for a traitor that doesn't exist.
Welp one by one, the yogscast is dying. The day either Simon dies from jaffa related injuries such a chocking on one or lewis gets arrested for the countless pushing, then the yogscast is truly gone
No they aren't? The Yogscast is doing fine. They may not get as much views as before, but they certainly maintain stable sources of income. While this stuff with Sjin and Turps sucks, it's not the end. Give it some time. I'm sure we'll see way more of Sjin and maybe Turps doing their own thing and possibly collaborating with Yogs members in the future.
@Lloyd Zed I see where you're coming from but only 3 have left so far and I'm not trying to downplay that fact but it would take a mass exodus of core Yogs members before I start proclaiming the end.
I hate the whole thing of companies feeling that as soon as some old allegations or misconduct arises the employee has to be immediately fired (or asked to resign) for the "good of the company". In most cases if the person is a good person that brings joy to a lot of people and is genuinely sorry for their actions (and their offence isn't criminal) then it actually seems to cause more harm to the company to fire them than it does to keep them on. Why should someone be fired just because a select few might be offended? It's a similar situation to James Gunn and Disney, and I'm so glad that the community and cast of Guardians 3 responded the way they did and stood up for him.
you hit the nail on the head my dude!!! James is the perfect example. if we want to fire these guys, why not riot and get all Michael Jackson songs banned from the radio and shops? you cant fight for one then no the other. its like asking to save the planet and then cutting down a forest to build a house.
Sammy Petros Sjin wasn’t “immediately fired.” Lewis hired an independent third-party HR firm to investigate the allegations into Sjin. They concluded he broke the Yogscast CoC. I also think it’s funny you specify that his actions weren’t criminal, as if breaking the law is the only bad thing a person can do.
That crack in his voice just broke me... holy fuck... I love this man and he has gotten me through the darkest days of my life... and a person like that you always want to be happy. 💕💕
I'm pretty out of the loop, too, but Sjin's public personality suggests he wouldn't hurt a fly in a real life situation: he talks big, but seems so capable of restraining himself. I hope whatever happened is either false, or if it's true that Sjin can be better than his past self, admit his mistake, and aim to make things right again.
From what I can gather, he had this to say: “for a long time I’ve chatted privately with community members but I’ve come to realize this behavior might not be considered appropriate by everybody.” Imo, he's a good guy that made poor decisions, and I'll wait patiently for him to come back.
That’s the thing though, a “public personality” is just that- a public front. I know it sucks to be a fan of someone and have this shit happen, but we can’t take what we see as what a person is like. We don’t know Sjin. We don’t know any of the Yogs personally. The sad reality is that a lot of seemingly respectable people do a lot of really shitty things behind closed doors. Friends and family are regularly blindsided by it, and we’re just fans who know nothing but what they choose to show us.
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but it was only a matter of time to be honest. The Yogscast has been an institution for so long now. I've been surprised year after year that they've remained active. For many of us, they were as much of a staple of our formative years as whatever music or TV shows we were into, perhaps even moreso because of the abundance of quality content they put out and their entertaining personalities as performers. I'm as shocked as anyone else about what's come out, but it was inevitable that someday the Yogscast would end. I'm sad that it had to be an ugly end like this.
I said this before in another video it is ok to like someone's work and art even if you are not a fan of their actions 2 examples for me are I love Michael Jackson's music a lot of his songs had good messages and a decent beat even though the person was less than ideal and a big one is Walt Disney who at best was a Nazi Sympathizer or at worst was a racist pedophile but I still watch and enjoy things made by his company I am not to fond of sjin's actions but I still enjoy his content and I think that is ok I would just like to reiterate the facts that we know that sjin was inappropriate with fans but there was nothing illegal going on so when sjin does return I will probably still check out his content it will be different bc for these past few years sjin mostly did collabs and I don't think that will be on the cards anymore since he is no longer a part of yogscast so idk if I will still enjoy it but I will check it out bc while I am not a fan of his actions I am a fan of his work
@@crevendevoss9673 are you replying to someone specific or is this a general statment? Also there was nothing illegal, that we know of... We literally have no real info, be that caff, turps or sjin. We just don't know; so there could be, just as much as there could not be.
This is such a shitty time, but gotta admire the way Sips has addressed each of these three situations. Under the goofy surface he's such a mature and levelheaded guy, I'm really glad we have him.
This makes me so sad, it broke my heart to hear about Sjin. I never would of thought of him to be "inappropriate" with anyone, but then again you never know how people actually are in real life.
@@bhume7535 No company allows that kind of stuff. If you actually are in a relationship then the company has no say, and if the fans come to you the company has no say. But if you solicit sex/nudes from fans the company may just have a problem with the unprofessionalism.
Sjin's Reddit PSA: www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/cq8nnz/moving_on/
Reddit Thread 2: www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/cqnfjy/the_future/
Sjin Quote: www.reddit.com/r/Yogscast/comments/cqm8xb/in_these_trying_times_we_should_remember_to/
Holy shit that second thread is me. I never thought it'd be more than 30 people who would see it
Reddit thread 2 is an important read
God I wish they would just make up. Losing Caff wasn't a major loss but now Sjin and Turps?
2 Core members lost who constantly supported the channel and community.
It hurts more as just like Sips many of us grew up with them
@@reyzephlyn105 i feels you dude. sad times
@Poke Poke Sjin was in murky waters years ago. Some stuff arose when Tuetron left, and I can only imagine he's taking his leave now because Turps, who had a higher-power position in the company and was accused of practically the same thing, stepped down of his own accord. It would be (or it may be seen as) hypocritical for him to not do the same
Damn man it really hit me when Sips said only Lewis and Hat Flims are left for him. So much complex emotion bundled into one candid humorless joke.
That one hit me really hard as well.
It’s abit of an exaggeration but the yogscast does seam to be slowly dissolving... I hope things pick up and they bounce back
He’s done vids with Simon and Duncan though? Or did he forget 😂
@@Cthulhu621 He's been in vids with all of them, close with everyone though? He's done hundreds of episodes of skyblock with HatFilms and Lewis has traded art with Sips' son lol
@@Cthulhu621 he's done videos with them but he's not really collaborated with them like he has Sjin, Turps, Lewis and Hat Films. I think Sips was meaning people he's done series or videos with specifically.
I always felt Sips was sort of the outlier among the yogscast, saw his early stuff and he was always branded as SIPS, not so much yogscast.
He has a real grip on his identity, what he is, does, likes, etc etc.
Sips is a man who goes with the flow, tries to not get caught up in things that aren't important in the long run. I think that's something to respect and admire, and part of his long-lasting appeal.
Biff Bash Bosh Very well said and much agree 🤗
Noblesseux Flax is short tempered, self centered, and self serving. I can’t watch his content. I subbed to Hat Films when they only had 24,000 subs and weren’t apart of Yogscast and they were fricking brilliant, funny, and witty. They reminded me of Monty Python. Then they got big and started pandering their humor to attract 12 year old boys for subs. Everything is vulgar and immature now. Sips can still be vulgar, but he doesn’t shove it down your throat every minute. He just lets it happen you know. Has fun with it. Isn’t forced. Then goes on about something else. He’s so mellow that I love listening to him at night when I go to sleep. Really respect his class and maturity and self deprivation and his ability to say fuck it and have fun. He deserves all the best.
Biff Bash Bosh &@@noblesseuxMaybe it's just the magic of being a dad.
That said I guess it didn't work for PFlax -- I can't help picturing his kid watching his dad's vids (the Team DD vids of them playing pre-release Divinity: OS 2 come to mind because he made them practically unwatchable) out of curiosity and seeing him getting legitimately angry over a computer game and making things really awkward by taking a game so seriously.
Meanwhile Sips' videos (or at least before he quit posting on his channel) are always lighthearted and stuff like his editing jokes in his Skyrim vids is basically the definition of "dad humor."
Biff Bash Bosh it’s a bit like Tom channel. It’s not called Yogscast Tom it’s Angory Tom the name he came up with. He doesn’t really associate with the Yogscast on his channel it’s just him it’s Toms channel not the Yogscasts.
Actually he did carry the Yogscast name on his YT channel for a good while, got removed somewhere around 2015ish I believe.
Really feel sorry for Sips. All the memories coming back and almost cried a number of times. Love you man
Suprised there is no addition comments, but yeah, it is sad, there was clearly good times between them and it's a shame that it will hinder everyone's work and morals.
@@junatah5903 And here we are in 2022, and Sips still can't play games...
I feel so sorry for Sips.
Tash why?
@@drummerb0y4tune I don't wanna speak for Tash, but I'd imagine it's because now two people that Sips has been close to and created content that he loved with are gone.
Yeah sucks when all your old friends are creeps.
He seems a little pissed honestly. Which I wouldn't blame him for. The whole Yogscast paid a price for the controversy Sjin and Turps caused. A lot of the yogs are pretty independent in their content, Sips is one, and it tarnishes their work and threatens their job security when individual members break these kinds of rules and start this kind of trouble. And with it being one after the other and then again for good measure, he's probably fed up with it.
@@sta292 sjin wasnt found guilty he just had enough of the crap
2:10 “thanks for addressing it” you can hear the pain in his voice and it makes me feel so bad for him :(
Where the fuck are you getting this from? Sips doesn't need to be spoken for.
@@andrewmiller8653 I've left an angry comment before, but I think you're making needless assumptions about Bibley's intentions. You can hear Sips' voice cracking up a bit throughout the video imo so I don't think it's even that ridiculous a situation.
That was him taking a sharp breath, audio glitch or something of the like, immediately after he doesn't seem pained or anything either
@@mistro1328 I think you're misreading that, to be honest. I would say he's clearly hurt, his hand was even shaking a bit at that same timecode.
@@Phagocytosis if you just continue to watch it you can see he's not sad just seems to be exasperated as he does throughout the whole video.
The hand shaking just seems to be because it's resting on his chin while he's talking. I really think you guys are just projecting what you want to see onto him.
The fact that he mentions Lewis and hat films at the end really shows how out of left field this was for Sips. He had no idea this was going on and is probably really stressing him out because he has no clue what’s going to happen next
I feel like my child hood is falling apart
Yeah let's hope nobody else goes like Duncan because if he goes well in completely done everybody from my childhood would be gone apart from Simon and Lewis but it wouldn't be the same like it's not the same without sjin tbh haven't watched any Yogscast since he left feels bad man
This has happened with another one of my favorite content creators (The KingNappy) and it is such a bummer... I am surprised it is such growing problem amongst a group of people we watch daily...
I was just slowly getting over nappy and now this happens and I'm so sad
I was just about to type this.
Same, it's kind of hard to watch the Yogs now without thinking of Sjin being gone and all this drama they're in, but they're the only youtubers i really watch.
I really feel for Sips. Him and Sjin did some great stuff and I'll always remember those series and moments
You can hear all the points in his voice when he is about to break, I can't even imagine how I would feel if someone closer to me had done something like this
This Minecraft music does not help, makes me more emotional.
Especially when the first video they did together was a Minecraft one.
Fuck, i can't believe it lined up that well
Jesus
the minecraft music hit hard
The music gave me the opposite feels. Mad me feel happy when I shoulda been sad. Immersion ruined
Sips wanted to cry
CraZZySlaPPy you can hear it, I feel so sorry for all of them. Just imagine how Lewis is feeling right now.
he's sick and congested so that's why he sounds like that but i'm sure he also wanted to cry
Out of all the things I've ever read that is related to Sips, I never have once seen it to be this or did I ever even think of expecting this.
When we can tell Sips is legit sad, it means things really could be better. I wish it to be better for him honestly, he seems to have been slapped in the face like the rest of us with all the sudden news, except for the fact that he was on an even more personal level with the other Yogs.
Man made me wanna cry too..
I don't think I've ever seen Sips' facade slip. He's always been a rock solid foundation of dry humor. Seeing him like this hit me harder than I thought it would.
Oh god, someone give him a hug. I can't see sips like this man, it's too sad.
Never seen ol' Sips like this. It hurts for everyone but all of the Yogs past and present are so strong. We'll all get through it together. Like Sips said; hopefully none of this will continue because it gives me a real reverse boner. All the best to Sips and everyone.
You can hear the hurt in his voice
Remember when Sips joked about Sjin getting kicked out of the Yogscast on Voltz...
😢 “GG sjin” from the red matter bomb video
"Oh nooo, Shipping and Receiving!"
Rest In Peace Sips Co...
We will never forget you sjin... ♡
Yeah dude remember that music? so iconic
Damn it, you two just made me cry, I thought I made it without crying
It'll always be Sjips co for me
Fuck you and fuck that piece of shit sjin
@@cannedbread3125 fuck you canned bread I mean is there a more disgusting product out there and your unhealthy with all your carbs I mean really no one likes you how are you still even a thing
it was boddypen....
way back dude
That was peak Yogscast.
God damn, boddypen...
@Joshua Barlow Watch the Voltz episode where sjin goes mining with a red matter bomb...
god dammit
Honestly sips and sjin were probably 25% of my childhood, them two alone entertained me for years and I wish it wasn’t like this
Me too gosh
He truly is the real guy, the best guy
He’s a good man. I feel so bad for him, this almost made me cry.
Sips is so genuine. He really does have a kind soul
Honestly I really feel bad for Lewis. Sips too ofc. But I think it must feel really shitty being the guy expected to manage all this.
You should see the Yogscast Facebook, people keep harassing them over it
Kaiserfi Man, that’s so shitty. If Lewis /wanted/ him gone it would have happened back during the initial allegations. Also I kinda feel bad for Sjin too because while he may have been unprofessional it’s really hard for me to imagine he did anything malicious.
Especially when one of the people you had to fire was the guy meant to manage all this
Honestly dude. It's a really sad event
@@bwood6337 If you read the old posts and proof of his messages it's really messed up. The girl admits to having led Sjin on to see what would happen but became uncomfortable when he kept flirting. Seems like a mistake in youth that has come back to bite him. Hoping for a statement of apology and him moving on.
Love you sips. Been watching you longer than I can remember.
"Appreciate what you what, be are the make you appreciate what you dad"- Paul Sykes (Sjin)
shit tears came to my eyes
Deep shit
The weirdest thing is that this quote somehow makes sense now...
"GG Sjin, you did it" - Sips_
absolute king of class, even though it hurts him personally he still emphasises that the victims of these behaviours need the support ❤️ love you sips
Man I've been following the Yogscast for a while now and this is going to be weird. Sjin was definitely one of my favorite members, so it is conflicting to hear about things of this nature.
Regardless of how you feel though, you really have to give it to Lewis for being decisive and drawing clear lines about what will and will not be tolerated at the Yogscast.
Well honestly I'm two things for sure: A business woman and a good judge of character.
I've been watching these guys as long as they had a YT channel (either one of them) on and off again. I just came across this whole situation bc I really felt like watching some sjinanigans again but couldn't remember the name of the series I wanted to watch and so I came across this issue on google. After reading into it: Turps - knew he was a dirt bag since day 1 --- Caff - creeped me out since day1. I never got that feeling from Sjin. He was that cute awkward nerd. They are never good with these topics. I've seen my fair share of them being a gamer as long as I can remember but that doesn't make them predators, just idiots. It's actually quite charming if you can handle it and honestly not so different from the content they've put on the internet. As much as Lewis humours me he has quite the sexist streak to him a lot of times. It goes way too far and I remember listening to one of their early podcasts when they chatted about how he and Hannah met at the time. That whole situation wasn't exactly kosher either.
So considering I never got a bad vibe from Sjin and the history of Lewis himself and the way the female members of the Yogscast to this day have to either clap back or take the casual sexism, it doesn't look to me like there would be a real strict line for missconduct. You simply can't casually throw some sexual harrassment into a stream - even if it is meant as a joke and I get that it is a joke, our generation is way less sensible than the kids nowadays, honestly I'm probably the worst: my teammates always knew I was probably the best player in the group and I wouldn't let any opportunity slide for an inuendo or dirty joke - but fire someone who might or might not have done the same in a DM. That's the biggest problem: I've read up on it and the two other people who gave a statement regarding it were Lewis, who said he is neither guilty nor innocent and Zoey (who I called since the first time I came across her fondly "The Bitch" who literally dates a fan) who went full on witchhunt.
You've said Lewis was decisive and was drawing a clear line about what will and will not be tolerated, but I can't share your opinion here. There is no clear line. If you go simply by the moral standards there is no different between "flirting" and casual sexual harrassment on a stream or video and someone doing (allegedly) the same via DMs. So since I can't figure out what the issue actually is and there is clearly not a rule for sexual harrassment towards women in this company I need to look at it from a business woman's perspective.
Ergo: This decision had nothing to do with being decisive or moral standards and purely with finances and the fear of losing them. It's simple, "banter" between people on a stream is considered entertainment but the second this "persona" behaviour bleeds even slightly into the world outside of the limited space these "personas" are allowed to have it becomes an issue with investors. Especially nowadays when most sponsors don't want to invest in less childfriendly entertainers they jump ship very quickly. You can only allow yourself being non PG / seemingly problematic if you are big enough and sorry to say Yogscast is not nearly big enough to balance the image hit a sponsor would get out with profit in such a case. So my educated guess would be that Sjin was simply a pawn that got sacrificed for the greater good since he was a target for the witchhunt of these internet social warriors. I honestly hope they didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater or how the saying goes (I did take a look at their social blade and they had a steady decline in subscribers for the main channel since the departure was announced before it they actually gained).
More bending to cowardice over proofless allegations.
Seriously, this shit has become epidemical in America too: Women "come foreward" with so-called "imperical claims" that some male touched them in a way that scared them or adressed them in a uncharacteristically appropriate manner, and spin it so as it ALWAYS sounds the same between each claim: Alone and aggressive.
I hate how it seems Hearsay is more listened to than our own fucking due-process. Much like our accused, these guys have EVERY right to stand and sue for even remotely possible false-witness defamation and Tortious Interference.
There is a case happenening Right now in Texas with someone facing nearly identical claims, and did his accusers sue when this happened, apparently, "years and years" ago?
No.
Then they try to ruin his life? Well, he tried to reason why with them, but in the end, HE sued THEM as a final option.
And in the months since, saif accusers have tripped, trampled, and distanced away from one another with uncoroberated stories, no-witness testimonies, and some very telling depositions that reveal A LOT in their overall demeanor.
I know the obvious question: "why would they lie?"
Ill do you one better: Why WOULDNT they? They all claim, because of the "pro-male problem" their lives were always horrible, put down, poked fun at, jeered, booed, etc. Is ANY of it true? Possibly.
But its not a valid exscuse to demand a guy have his head and genitals severed and put on a platter (yes someone in the mentioned case ACTUALLY stated they wanted that).
I argue if there isnt fully concrete evidence on ANY of the accused here, THEY should sue their accusers.
See how well these claims actually hold up under official judicial scrutiny.
Think the law shouldnt be involved in private lives? Thats where I gotta break your heart: The law is ALWAYS involved in our lives, no matter how minor our daily toil.
The accusers have a right. But so do the accused. Thats how due process is.
Dont like it? Tough shit. Judicial law is absolute. NO ONE denys due process.
@@jameskarg3240 isn't going to court a huge waste of money for some people though?
@@nickname8619 In the aspect of truth, its really not.
Plus, the same can be said of the accusers towards sjin. Thats money NONE of these MeToo zealots have either. Even if the case ends undecided, sjin likely has the means to pay it off rather fairly even-tide in, and I can only guess this, some 10 years at least? Yogscast HAD to have let him off with pension, and given their longeviry, they must have accumilated quite a coffer.
Most accusers, however, do NOT have such moneyx and would likely be left in permanent legal fee debt, which basically cripples your credit forever.
Its an even WORSE nightmare for them if sjiw would take action to that, compounded by the possibility if it IS found they did this solely to spite him, theyd be looking at some 20 years behind bars.
At least Id HOPE the UK has such harshness against false-witness convictions. Shit like thus wouldnt BE so controvertial today otherwise.
Sorry to sound like a "victim blamer" But the MeToo movement has a LOT of selfish harlots taking advantage of them too. The deserve to get called out just as much as any actual offenders.
But when it comes to allegations like these I keep asking: WHY avoid legal or even basic law enforcement action? THEYRE the ones qualified to find evidence to ghese claims, NOT the people!
I NEVER understood this avoidance of law encorcement. Not EVERY cop you come across is crooked. Sure theyre near emotionless and ALWAYS stoic, but THATS the entire point of the job aside from "upholding the law"
Rules are everything. You break them or skirt around them, you BETTER have a plan to deal with the inevitable consequences of that. They ALWAYS come around eventually.
@@jameskarg3240 finally someone says it
I can't express how well Sips has dealt with and addressed these recent issues. The kindness and morality Sips displays in these situations is admirable and I can't think of a better role model in that regard. Throughout all of this turmoil, Sips, more than anyone else, has been the voice of reason for me and handles these extremley difficult and personal ordeals with reason and grace. The nickname coined years ago still rings true. Sips is the Real guy. The Best guy.
From us all, thank you Sips. I wish only the best for you, your family and the future, you inspire me every day to be a kinder, more understanding human being, and there is nothing I can personally do to pay that back to you.
The example you set has not only changed me for the better, but it has touched and altered countless numbers of your fans and your impact is greater than I think you imagine. Before i get too emotional, let me drive the point home: Sips is an Honest Guy. A Loving Guy. The Best Guy.
Sips and Sjin are the guys that brought me into the yogscast, hurts like hell to watch them get torn apart. Stay strong, Sips. And remember, what happens in the hovel stays in the hovel.
he sounds like hes about to cry
he is
I legit shed a tear... Man, Sjin was one of the best, most entertaining yogs. He will be missed.
100% agree
@Poke Poke I will miss him on ttt and gta and the occasional Minecraft with Lewis and Simon
@Poke Poke He won't.
@@inviktus1983 hell be back making content, not on yogs
@@paleoleft is that what that meant??? That's horrible
God bless our dad Sips. The real guy, the best guy.
Sjin, Duncan and Lewis was a really good combo :((((
Sjin, Sips, Simon, Duncan and Lewis was the best combo.
"I wonder what happens if I.."
*Puts the baby in the oven*
@@SLKibara baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time. Baby time.
@@dejohn8529 The true dream team :(
@@SLKibara omg.... i remember thst....
Oh. Wow. I've been watching Yogscast for a very long time and I love them all but Sjin was always the most entertaining to watch with his next level trolls and clutch plays. So legendary. It pains me to think of him separate from Yogscast but when he does come back I will be glad. Sips is the best guy!
Remember the time in the bomb that sips said sjin was getting kick off the yogscast?
Didnt get kicked off chose to leave after weeks of not being able to do anything or make money
@@0-B1 not his point :)
That guy who said "don't even joke about it" made me feel really bad for Sips trying to lighten the mood
Sips and Sjin were one of the greatest duos in gaming, not just minecraft. I hate to believe that Sjin was capable of doing anything wrong but I don't have the full story and can't make assumptions either way. I'm with Sips in that I hope everything works out in the end.
As I heard sjin was awkwardly flirting with a fan(who wasn't underaged) and they flirted back jokingly. Overall it was all consentual and just awkward fun. But Then after a long time somone else found the conversation and sent it to lewis and told them sijn was making the fan uncomfortable.
@@rythianblack It wasn't just a single occurence. You're making it seem much more innocent than it was.
“Uranium? Or is it My-ranium?”
@@joost1120 what was it then?
@@joost1120 im curious as well because this was 2 years ago and #metoo was still a think people would do id hate for it to be true but can easily see a fan getting jealous and using this and twisting it in spite
You can hear the emotion in his voice in both videos. It's always hard when you find out someone had been doing something shitty while you were friends with them. I've seen it tear an irl community apart before, as some take a strong stand with the victim and others take an equally strong stand with the accused. Some people react with anger, treating it as a betrayal. Others flat out deny it even when there's evidence. Others still react like Sips, where it's almost like a friend had passed away. In any situation it's hard to reconcile lingering feelings of friendship with the newfound understanding of what they did. Respect to Sips for handling it so well, not making excuses for him or trying to pretend it didn't happen; just speaking it honestly.
The year is 2035. Sips has kept his damn wits about him, and is now the only remaining member of the Yogscast. How does he proceed?
Does nae nae
pp poo poo check
Goes to Dracula's castle
new series of towns
takes ownership of the yogscast, finds way to remove toxic members or individuals undeserving of their positions, attempts to either leave himself or find a way to fix what they’ve created to let it peacefully continue or peacefully end
Not that I don't appreciate Lewis's and Sjin's posts on the situation, but their posts were too calculated. I'm glad to hear it personally explained by someone, even if it's Sips. Sips tried to explain it to the best of his ability, and it's good enough.
I mean, its very simple, sjin flirted with a fan, and apparently thats against tos, so he had to go. Its that simple but people are making it to be some sexual harassment thing when its not.
@@declaringpond2276 We don't know what really happened. You weren't there, neither was I, end of story.
@@imbillb Going off what the reddit posts have said. Go to pinned comment and read them
@@imbillb Also, Ive been here since world of world of warcraft, I remember what sjin got accused of, and if its that, then hannah deserves the boot for doxxing two kids, zoey for dating a fan, lewis for dating a fan, and many more...
@@imbillb dude go to the reddit, it's literally just that. Aperantly flirting with fans is tos.
Been following and watching the yog videos since day 1. Sjin has always been one of my favorite members. I miss him in all the newest videos already. Have and will always be a supporter of the yogs and sjin even if he isn't with them atm.
I think I would actually die inside if Lewis or Hatfilms got into trouble. HatFilms have been central to my formation from like 2013. I'm hoping that the older members like HF, Sips and Lewis have that sensibility not to have done anything stupid.
HF has three people so they correct themselves I'm sure. They seem like some smart lads
Smith does also have that infamous degree in PR which people forget about. He's an abrasive boy, but he's generally sensitive and smart when it matters. Hat Films as a trio are good at self-regulating between the three of them as well, as was said, but I can understand the worry- If one falls or dies the other two won't continue which is something they've said in the past. They've all kind of tried to branch out and do things by themselves as well, but hatfilms as an entity would be over. I'm personally not so worried- I've watched their content for over 7 years and in their community there was never whispers of wrong-doing, whereas sjin and caff had pockets of tumblr crying into the void about misconduct for years, sjin especially
noeL What seemed to happen with the other members of the Yogscast? Simon? Hannah, Duncan? What did they do?
You have got to love Sips man. He seems like such a down to earth dude. Out most respected for Sips, especially for addressing the situation.
Wow I never expected such a noble response from Sips. This shit seems to happen too often on UA-cam, but it is what it is. Good on him for doing the right thing and not jumping to defend Sjin.
This hurts a lot. Sips Co. will always be remembered.
Sips touches me everyday...Right in the heart and soul.
2:42 I hate how this is a real concern
Well when you let twitter control your company, this happens cause you know 90% of people with twitter are dumber then 100% of people without twitter.
I don't think it's a real concern, just people freaking out. Caff was bad, Turps was not as visibly bad, Sjin violated COC. The offenses are getting progressively lighter.
The Yogscast still seems reasonably and emotionally unified and I HIGHLY doubt they'll be at each other's throats over innuendo in a TTT episode or some other little thing.
Sips has such a pure heart, no matter what becomes of Turps and Sjin as-well-as the accusations against them you can tell this hits hard, for him especially. Everyone please continue to be there for him and visit his streams, community support helps a lot I'm sure.
Next Week: Sips on the Sips Situation
I’m literally watching my childhood fall apart before my eyes, from Shadow of Israphel to sexual allegations, this is awful 😢
Shadow of israphel is still the greatest thing ever on UA-cam. I love the yogscast so much and I’ve watched every series multiple times. It’s so nostalgic and I still pray for an end to shadow of israphel. Those were the good old days
It's a shame they ended it tho. Just ended.
I'll be honest, of all the people to have done this sort of thing, Sjin was the last person I expected. Hard times indeed.
Im still not clear what he done. Is awkardly flirting something to be fired over? I'd like it they told us exactly what he did.
LeePalmer95 I remember this shit coming out years ago. like 4-5 years ago. apparently sjin would get Fan's numbers and be like "hey baby, I'm from the Yogscast" this whole ordeal reeks like a targeted harassment campaign.
@@whatisthepointofthis1 Well the only reason it got caught up like this was because caff was such a freak. The old ones were brought up by his ex who got let go from the yogscast and it was 100% some sort of vengenace play.
@@leepalmer9558 After reading about the person who burned sjin (who lead Sjin on because she is gay) I can't help but think this is some sort of weird destructive behavior
you reckon sjin will stay in touch with them?
Oh yeah, for sure.
Personally I’m sure they’ll keep in touch because the yogscast for years always thought the allegations were bullshit so I fount now they suddenly think they’re worth losing a friendship over.
But I doubt they’ll ever work together professionally again
William Warren outside of the yogs videos definitely they will they are close friends but in the videos or live streams it's unlikely
Hot Take: Sjin will be guesting on certain Yogs independent content (not main channel) within a year. And certain Yogs will be on Sjin's stuff faster than that. Ben and Duncan already clearly don't object to the rest of their pre-recorded series going out on Sjin's channel.
@@LieuFang Yeah that's what I'm thinking, the worst thing about leaving the yogscast is probably the perks, also Sjin would probably have more of an opportunity to join things like SMPLive and other things!
God can only imagine what Lewis must be going through right now
sips is he best, he is a good man and I hope he is o.k.
I just want to hug him, a big comforting hug. Sips being sad... it makes me all misty eyed.
Sips is amazing. He really is. That joke at the end felt like really weird. He didn’t want to say that, but got caught up in the moment and let his emotions out. This must really suck
I got the sense that he didn’t really know what he could or couldn’t say. He doesn’t want to say anything negative about Sjin cause he’s his friend and doesn’t want to defend him either as it would be seen by some as being uncaring towards the victims. These things are a minefield.
DownesTheWise Definitely. Poor guy. This is just a shitty situation overall
I took it in the same hurt spirit as somethink like, "Great, now my fish will die and everything I love will be gone." Pure pain.
@@RyanDownes000 everyone who makes a false allegation damages the reputation of actual victims of sexual harassment. I’m so sick of this shit.
Haven’t there been rumours about this for literal years
I’m genuinely heartbroken by this. Sjin was was favourite member of the yogs and didn’t deserve this. None of the Yogs videos will be the same without him.
Sjin was my favorite member of the yogscast :/
Despite sips not having a lot of info on this, I’m sure people really appreciate him talking about it at all. It was always him and sjin so I think anything from sips is appreciated by fans.
I thought this was a joke video at first but then started looking at the comments and finished the video still can’t really believe it I have no more words other than thanks for all the great memories and laughs
The group yogscast of my childhood has always been ridgedog, Lewis and simon, sjin, and sips and duncan, and quite honestly it always will be. It really hurts me since I'm 22 years old and I've been watching the yogscast since i was 12, it really hurts to find out that such an important group such as the yogscast which has really positively impacted my school life is falling apart really doesn't feel good in my opinion... i stuck around for the jaffas, waited for the israphel continuation and stayed to see the original gang still playing together (not including ridgedog) sjin and sips always felt like the dynamic duo of the yogscast almost like the villain that was more interesting than the main character I really hope sjin and sips still try to play together, as silly as this sounds I kinda want to see the old gang playing minecraft similar to what they did with yoglabs, jaffa factory, and to interact with eachother mid episode like they did with jaffa factory and voltz, it really went to show that this was really a group of friends playing a game together.
I missed him a lot today...
Im furious
Sjin was the best on TTT, it’ll never be the same without him 😭😭😭
I don't think there any more reason to watch it tbh, tom is still there but.. The fact that you know sjin will never be in one of them, which means no more sjin crazy plays...
I need a break from the yogs. That's for sure
I've just come across this after sjin not showing up in uploads years ago, i was always curious but never looked into it, i hope that the journey ahead lights up for these guys
Thank you Sips, just being here. The Yogscast would be so little now without you, proving once and for all that he's the honest soul of the company. Where no one else feels able to talk about what's happening, in strides ol' Sips showing a human side that seems to be missing from the company as a whole in this time of crisis.
10 years ago I came across the yogscast as a small 8 year old boy. They gave me joy and helped me through hard times as I was bullied endlessly for my mental disabilities. But I always watched them. And continued to for 10 years. Now the yogscast are falling apart. And that child inside of me is crying endlessly. With it surfacing from now and then for the channel I loved the most is in trouble.
guess what, all the feelings you supressed using the yogscast are going to start coming out.
@@tonyravioli1982 i didnt mean it literally. I'm not crying, i was speaking metaphorically.
The Sjituation if you will.
The Sjit hit the fan, alright.
God damn it guys.
2020: Everyone in the Yogscast gets into a controversy and gets kicked out, leaving the entire Yogscast and all of its funds, assets, and property to Sips.
tough in this scenario it would be kind of funny that for the mandatory TTT of the day Sips just runs around alone by himself for 15 minutes looking for a traitor that doesn't exist.
In the words of Brian Limmond, 'I don geteeh.'
Sjin has left the yogscast in response to an investigation into inappropriate conduct between him and fans.
Sjin is heavier than feathers.
The part at the end about him being alone broke my heart
The fact that this is the first video that comes up when you search for "sips sjin"
Welp one by one, the yogscast is dying. The day either Simon dies from jaffa related injuries such a chocking on one or lewis gets arrested for the countless pushing, then the yogscast is truly gone
No they aren't? The Yogscast is doing fine. They may not get as much views as before, but they certainly maintain stable sources of income. While this stuff with Sjin and Turps sucks, it's not the end. Give it some time. I'm sure we'll see way more of Sjin and maybe Turps doing their own thing and possibly collaborating with Yogs members in the future.
@Lloyd Zed I see where you're coming from but only 3 have left so far and I'm not trying to downplay that fact but it would take a mass exodus of core Yogs members before I start proclaiming the end.
I’m already worried that this year’s Jingle Jam just won’t be the same.
to be honest, they would get more views as just lewis and simon
@@recurf7492 sjin was second biggest by far 1.9mil only bigger channel was main
god damn . This hits hard
CAN SOMEONE GET THIS MAN A HUG PLEASE?!! He needs it more than I ever could.
aw i will miss Sjin, he was in a lot of projects at the same time too, Sips always keeping his fans as much as he can in the loop.
he's so mature and thoughtful, keeping the victims in mind but still being upset about it. i love sips. this is so heartbreaking.
He has in fact come back. Never changed
You can hear it in sips voice he is upset it's hard for him to accept
I hate the whole thing of companies feeling that as soon as some old allegations or misconduct arises the employee has to be immediately fired (or asked to resign) for the "good of the company". In most cases if the person is a good person that brings joy to a lot of people and is genuinely sorry for their actions (and their offence isn't criminal) then it actually seems to cause more harm to the company to fire them than it does to keep them on. Why should someone be fired just because a select few might be offended? It's a similar situation to James Gunn and Disney, and I'm so glad that the community and cast of Guardians 3 responded the way they did and stood up for him.
you hit the nail on the head my dude!!! James is the perfect example. if we want to fire these guys, why not riot and get all Michael Jackson songs banned from the radio and shops? you cant fight for one then no the other. its like asking to save the planet and then cutting down a forest to build a house.
Read the post by Lewis on reddit. These were newer allegations. And the yogs have a code of conduct which they have a right to uphold.
Sammy Petros Sjin wasn’t “immediately fired.” Lewis hired an independent third-party HR firm to investigate the allegations into Sjin. They concluded he broke the Yogscast CoC.
I also think it’s funny you specify that his actions weren’t criminal, as if breaking the law is the only bad thing a person can do.
That crack in his voice just broke me... holy fuck... I love this man and he has gotten me through the darkest days of my life... and a person like that you always want to be happy. 💕💕
I'm pretty out of the loop, too, but Sjin's public personality suggests he wouldn't hurt a fly in a real life situation: he talks big, but seems so capable of restraining himself. I hope whatever happened is either false, or if it's true that Sjin can be better than his past self, admit his mistake, and aim to make things right again.
From what I can gather, he had this to say:
“for a long time I’ve chatted privately with community members but I’ve come to realize this behavior might not be considered appropriate by everybody.”
Imo, he's a good guy that made poor decisions, and I'll wait patiently for him to come back.
Don't assume what someone is in front of a camera is what they are in real life.
That’s the thing though, a “public personality” is just that- a public front. I know it sucks to be a fan of someone and have this shit happen, but we can’t take what we see as what a person is like. We don’t know Sjin. We don’t know any of the Yogs personally. The sad reality is that a lot of seemingly respectable people do a lot of really shitty things behind closed doors. Friends and family are regularly blindsided by it, and we’re just fans who know nothing but what they choose to show us.
They're dropping like flies
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but it was only a matter of time to be honest. The Yogscast has been an institution for so long now. I've been surprised year after year that they've remained active. For many of us, they were as much of a staple of our formative years as whatever music or TV shows we were into, perhaps even moreso because of the abundance of quality content they put out and their entertaining personalities as performers. I'm as shocked as anyone else about what's come out, but it was inevitable that someday the Yogscast would end. I'm sad that it had to be an ugly end like this.
it seems like everyone misses Sjin the most and really wishes he'd come back :/ I wish he would
he's back on his own channel called Sjin
This just breaks my heart. It makes it even worse when you hear the sadness in sips' voice and when you see the images of sips and sjin on screen.
These guys were my childhood, all the way back with SOI... And it's all falling apart... I just.... I just want to go back...
I can’t believe we won’t get Turps singing Smithy’s Mum anymore or Sjin trolling on Civ in an Elsa dress
No I forgot about civ. Shit now that I think about it Sjin was in the majority of videos I watched
x3x2 y He’s always been a subtle gem among the colourful members of the Yogs like Simon, Sips & Lewis. Jingle Jams really won’t be the same...
I expected caff to get shot down he seemed weird but now sjin and turps
Wtf is happing
Also Lewis may get caught pushing and then what will we have
having seen sjins new upload i came back to say that it is true and he will come back
Sips really is the real guy, the best guy! Long live Sips!!!
The amount of bro love between those two, that's something you don't find very often, this must've hit him so hard, sending love to you sips
2:40 Oh so that's Sips plan to take over Yogscast, from a continent away.
Sips never did content with Simon?
I doubt he was as close with him as he was with the others. the ones he's actually done serious with together, like hat films and Lewis.
No... My favourite Yog... Gmod is going to be so boring without him.
Cause that's the important take away...
I said this before in another video it is ok to like someone's work and art even if you are not a fan of their actions 2 examples for me are I love Michael Jackson's music a lot of his songs had good messages and a decent beat even though the person was less than ideal and a big one is Walt Disney who at best was a Nazi Sympathizer or at worst was a racist pedophile but I still watch and enjoy things made by his company I am not to fond of sjin's actions but I still enjoy his content and I think that is ok I would just like to reiterate the facts that we know that sjin was inappropriate with fans but there was nothing illegal going on so when sjin does return I will probably still check out his content it will be different bc for these past few years sjin mostly did collabs and I don't think that will be on the cards anymore since he is no longer a part of yogscast so idk if I will still enjoy it but I will check it out bc while I am not a fan of his actions I am a fan of his work
@@crevendevoss9673 are you replying to someone specific or is this a general statment?
Also there was nothing illegal, that we know of... We literally have no real info, be that caff, turps or sjin. We just don't know; so there could be, just as much as there could not be.
mcharnley95 and his classic trolls
who is gonna go get us a little copper now?!?!
This is such a shitty time, but gotta admire the way Sips has addressed each of these three situations. Under the goofy surface he's such a mature and levelheaded guy, I'm really glad we have him.
My fucking heart. This one hurts so damn much. I looked up to these guys and still do and I’m fucking 18. These guys were my heroes.
Damn, this is crazy. Super upsetting hearing all this.
This makes me so sad, it broke my heart to hear about Sjin. I never would of thought of him to be "inappropriate" with anyone, but then again you never know how people actually are in real life.
I think he was just hooking up with fans, which isn't necessarily wrong, but it isn't the image the Yogs want.
@@bhume7535 No company allows that kind of stuff. If you actually are in a relationship then the company has no say, and if the fans come to you the company has no say. But if you solicit sex/nudes from fans the company may just have a problem with the unprofessionalism.
@@zoravar.k7904 Yeah but you got people claiming hes a pedo and a rapist because of how little context and defense was given to sjins situation
Bring Sjin back!
Thank God for Sips' honesty!
Oh god, 2012 is all coming back to me... I'm sad now
Hope Sjin comes back for future Jingle Jams and such. Super sad he's gone, one of the few reasons I stuck to watching the main channel.