As a former competitive power lifter, I would red light these power lifters as they did not break parallel like you need to for a legal lift. The Olympic lifters looked incredible.
@@harrybaals2549 The suits do not restrict range of motion. The weight compresses the joints and allow full R.O.M. The power lifters try to see what they can get by with.
Oh it's mostly due toheavyweifht powerlifters being main examples of this bullshit There are jacked powerlifters and Iranian powerbelly tanks of olympic lifters
j o lmao those were bad examples of powerlifting squats 💀 you could’ve done some real examples from people like Russel Orhi you biased bastard lmaooooo💀
@@nw3877 hear that a lot especially as a physio lol I guess it's mostly when either people go up weights too fast without having enough experience with doing squats and deadlifts properly. Problem is there's always 2 schools of thought when it comes to this: 1) strict everything, proper alignment, movement checklist & 2) a person's body is different as compared to other so we should allow a bit of leeway when it comes to form. Personally, I'd rather go with the 2nd. And to add to what the guy said above, research suggests not just the meniscus but also ACL and other ligaments are thicker in weightlifters, though I'm not sure whether those are olympic-level.
This guy should do a part 2 where raw powerlifters like kevin oak, eric lilliebridge, larry wheels, john haack, pete rubish, jesse norris, dan green squat to great depth with huge weights and compare those to weighlifting squats that would be an honest comparison
that part at around 1:45 with Pyrros... it still gets me really emotional. it was his last olympics and last professional performance, where he got bronze medal and then the audience gave him a standing ovation for literally 15 minutes, halting the entire ceremony. magical moment
This is nonsense. None of those powerlifting squats should have passed, even by their own rules. The first one is just an abomination. It's also well known how much the rules and judging vary between federations. This is essentially a non-issue within the IPF, for example.
@POOR PIRANO it's impressive that she can move it yeah, and I'm sure she's strong as fuck. But that's not a squat, you don't need to squat 600 to know that
I can't belive this video I made in about 10 minutes 6 years ago has over 2 million views 😂 Once I get 1000 subs I will make part 2 and ensure it is even more fair, balanced and accurate than this video.
+Powerlifting - Deadlift / Squat / Bench u dont need to go atg on squat in powerlifting.. oly liters do it because it helps them catch the weight as it comes down from the clean. they HAVE to go deeper, it doesnt make anyone better or worse
+JaayProdiJaay nobody is questioning depth per sport. I think the video was using these particular lifts to prove the major difference between the sports because they're two extremes. Not saying one is better than the other.
+Brian Watts ，agree.last time i see 1 of the forum mention that westside people sometime used this wide foot stance squat during training to activate the glute muscle, and help to break through normal stance squat PR. i dont understand what is wide foot stance squat untill i se this video and yours comment .
They still strong as fuck bro lol. Even 700 for 1 shitty rep with no depth is better than 99.9999% of the population, especially as a woman. I bet she could rep 405 with perfect form, no gear.... can you?
+Kurt W read my comment again. "Better to watch" I'm talking about which form of powerlifting I prefer viewing for entertainment . I never doubted anyone's strength; I just don't find it entertaining when I see men and women lift while wearing insane amounts of gear.
Relax guys, I'm pretty sure this video was meant to be funny. There are great powerlifters out there that squat deep, but that wouldn't have been funny.
They could do box squats, adjustable to the lifter based on percentage of their height, or even their femur length. It would standardize the depth. But no, a world champion isn't gonna be told his PR doesn't count when done right. If these squats are good, why can't I rack pull instead of deadlift?
Yeah, Dan Green is a good example. Layne Norton squats "deep," but his upper body is pitched so far forward that I don't think it makes a good example in this case. I was more thinking of Bryce Lewis, Ray Williams, Chad Wesley Smith, Max Aita (who's also a weightlifter), Damien Pezzuti, Jesse Norris, Tom Martin, Bret Gibbs, Jonnie Candito, and of course, Justin Morgan (just kidding on that one).
Haha yea I'm a powerlifter and I got compliments on my form and depth from an olympic lifter. I lift raw, beltless (recently introduced a belt during some high volume high intensity deadlifts mostly to get used to it to use during competition, since raw still allows a belt wrist wraps and knee sleeves and that stuff does add weight.) These multiply lifters wont ever get passed in the IPF.
I do powerlifting in the gym. Bench, deadlift and Squat. I don’t do Olympic lifts, but I always squat Olympic style. Much more aesthetics to see, and proper Ass to Grass
You can still squat deep low bar, depends on how good your flexibility and form is. Personally high bar hurts my back more and I like low bar anyway it's way more comfortable because I'm tall.
Fatty Tee Actually most lifts shown are well above the 550 mark. I believe the lowest bar I saw was klokovs 1 hour long paused squat that was around 540 still. First dude had like 650 on.
What I think is really funny is that powerlifters always just slightly bend their knees during a squat with 15 guys spotting and then act all tough and hyped and Olympic lifters basically squat by sitting on the ground and getting up with no spotters and don't even have facial expressions
@@untbam I feel like powerlifting ESPECIALLY equipped has evolved so much that rly they only care abt the numbers they put on the board and I honestly think that’s why the depth has gotten so bad they just wanna see more plates on the bar
@@untbam this is a sumo squat don’t be a dumbass. The person who selected this compare a deep squat to a sumo squat. Unless you can do a full box split. You can’t go any deeper doing sumo.
When you see a slavic olympic lifter and his form/stance/range of motion and how smooth everything is... You start to question, what the F are these clowns in the US are doing ?
They weren't even hitting legal depth in powerlifting. The rules are clear that the crease in the leg and hip has to be below the top of the knee. The olympic squat is to train a part of the clean and jerk or snatch whereby the futher deeper they can get, then the less high the bar has to be cleaned or snatched for the first part of the movement.
No he’s correct they are regulated to go down pause and then come up hold , I don’t think those were comps I think those were just “lift sessions” bc there’s normally a guy who says ok down , ok up , rack
All of the Powerlifting squats shown were multi-ply equipped squats and knee wraps, they might not have been able to get parallel. There are so many proper examples of a Powerlifting squat done right, look at any Ray Williams or Larry Wheels or Pete Rubish squat video
I am a powerlifter,but that wide stance,equipped shit is stupid as fuck.I do not understand why people would do it.You are not demonstrating strength.They are barely hitting depth,and it comes down to who has better equipment.I compete RAW with wraps,but I do not use wraps.I just like squatting,and demonstrating raw strength.
+17MXT When I began powerlifting, I didn't even know "RAW" and "equipped" existed. Not only those people are using accessories to help them lift more, but also their form is questionable.
Anyone who really believes this has never worked out seriously. Flexibility like that takes immense effort and training time that most powerlifters don't have or even want as it is not useful to their goals.
Honestly there's nothing more satisfying than watching Oly weightlifters like Lu Xiaojun back squat. Long torso, short femurs, super upright high bar squat. It just looks so clean and easy. So much depth. So beautiful. Edit: Just saw the bit where the "powerlifting" keeps cutting to shots of Pyrros shaking his head LOL
As a powerlifter I will 100% agree that olympic lifting is much more difficult and oly lifters tend to be far more athletic. However, this video is still a pretty sad representation of powerlifters
But the olympic squat is all abaout the anatomy of your body. Short femur, long torso, good ankle mobility etc. Think most people would do it if they were born to be capeable of it
I got the femurs of a 198cm person but I'm just 185cm tall. Sucks that even after hundreds of hours of stretching and mobility work I still can't do olympic squats unless I put some elevation under my already elevated weightlifting shoes. I want to do them too
Nothing wrong with adding extra heel height. For reference, it's pretty common among Chinese lifters even at the top level. Just make sure the cobbler uses an incompressible material. The standard 0.75 inches of heel elevation sported by most weightlifting shoes is not some magical number that fits every person. It's simply a standardized measure to cut manufacturing costs.
Jesusmetalhead I used to do olympic type squats and i kept injuring my adductors because my knees would sometimes cave inwards very slightly when i went up. It wasnt cave in by a lot, but slighly, and over time i kept getting injured. So i just do a wider stance now and i squat just below parralel and my adductors are fine now. I would love to do olympic squats again but i dont want to risk getting injured again.
From the hip flexors to the IT bands to the tendons and ligaments in your knees and ankles all the way up to the back and shoulders you feel every little detail with the Olympic squat, ATG ♾.
@@ChristosPamp888 thanks man. Why is he shaking his head, just emotional? They used it in such a funny context here it’s hard to tell what he’s communicating.
@@afb9176 because its an endurance based sport. I wanna see someone bench or clean and jerk a crap ton of weight, not pullups my gym teacher wouldn't hit for performing or sandwhich making for reps.
You should've put Larry Wheels or Russell Orhii squats. They are both the best american powerlifters in their respective categories, and their squats are 1000x better than this joke
BIGroom house at least there actual comps and not these bs lifting “sessions” wheels for the win kids a absolute animal whole other breed next to these jokers !
exactly. How can you compare the BULGARIANS, to some average chick squatting in a bullshit federation? It makes no sense, the video kind of loses some validity. Even though, this shit is true.
+BrainTrance agree 100% my dude. i used to do squats just below paralell, but i injured myself and had to restart lifting a year later. im now doing olympic squats and althought i have to use a lot less weight, my body is looking amazing these days (imo of course) because of high reps with olympic squatz
+Leandro Augusto Olympic high bar ATG squats do not require dna/genetics lol..any sport related to physical performance is enhanced with strong genetics. That doesn't mean you can't train with shitty genetics and not perform the high bar squat used in Olympic lifting. Hard work beats genetics any day and yes, I agree that Olympic weightlifting requires more hard work than any strength required sport. Not just physically, but mentally as well with the technique involved. These guys you see doing the Olympic high bar squats in the video have all been training for decades before this footage was even taken.
The late great powerlifter Fred Hatfield always believed in high-bar squats in the offseason were great for base-building for powerlifting(as is using the ssb bar! Granted, we have powerlifters like Dan Green and Death grip Derek who can squat atg regardless of bar position!
Dude everything counts in powerlifting, and even the IPF. Wanna bounce the bar on your chest for bench? Sure! Wanna flare elbows? Sure! Wanna make the bench press into a decline? Sure! Wanna spread your legs ultra wide during bench? Sure! Wanna use equipment to lift some of the weight for you? Sure! Powerlifting is a sport where everyone gets a trophy, win or lose.
The real crime here is the fact those powerlifting judges are actually green-lighting those half squats. It's shit like that, that utterly undermines the sport of powerlifting.
Do some research, and youll see the top sofistication of the Olympic lifter, to the same ratio of powerlifter that actually have grace to use proper form. Thats just statistics man... but, yes. Very bais indeed
I see this all the time at the gym...im still basically a novice but I practice perfect form and go all the way ass to grass....I watch dudes on the racks next to me all the time throw 300 on the bar and squat down like 3 inches and stand back up. I may not lift as much as them (yet) but regardless of how long it takes me I will do so with perfect form all the way down
For those who don't understand. In proper federations these squats would be red lighted into oblivion. But even then, powerlifters don't go as deep as weightlifters. The main reason is the fact that powerlifters mostly employ lowbar position (the barbell rests on your lower delts). This position pushes your back and knees forward,( to make sure the center of gravity goes through middlefoot). Going ATG with this position is both dangerous and physiologically impossible for most of the population due to lack of enough ankle mobility. But at the end of the day lowbar WILL allow you to move more weight due to extra employment of lower back and hamstrings. Highbar position which is the one that WL use allow you to keep your torso vertical which is what's needed for snatch and clean and jerk. WL don't have use for lowbar even though lowbar would allow them to squat more.
For anyone reading this today: this is not true. I can ATG low bar and high bar. It's not dangerous and it feels genuinely comfortable. Western people like to act like deep squats are not physically possible when lots of the world manages to rest in that position.
@@MrMinermation It's an incredibly narcissistic and self-centered stance to think that just because YOU can squat ass to grass both ways, that everybody can. There are 8 billion people on Earth and you are ONE of them. I can't squat ass to grass lowbar, there is no way in hell. Also there is no actual reason to go ATG if your primary goal is strength and not power and mobility, which is what highbar and ATG is for. Check your information first before you comment again.
@@MrMinermation Squatting to parallel is absolutely fine and powerlifters and strongman show time and time again that is the best way to obtain maximum strength, you gaslighters constantly have to act all mighty and high with your ATG philosophy. Get off your high horse, dude.
Only part I see wrong here is your knees don't go forward in low bar. High bar is more Quads and results in more need flexion, low bar is more back and doesn't have as much knee flexion. Watch a high bar lift vs a low bar lift from the side. You lean more forward yes, but knees do not go forward, they actually stay further back. And I also can comfortably go deeper with low bar. Because since my knees don't go further out, my ankle mobility isn't as restrictive.
@@mirkomarjanovic3234 you just need to train mobility. It's not impossible. Every single olympic lifter who has trained mobility can do it. It's an incredibly lazy and demotivating stance to think that just because YOU can't be bothered training mobility, everyone else shouldn't give it a go as well.
i think its just two different thing, im just sad because lot of powerlifter want to overcome lack of mobility with what they call ''raw power'', where your human body is just not 100% free in his move
Fuck off dumbass. Low bar squats build total body strength. If you put a person through a program that uses low bar squats vs putting high bar squat, the person doing low bar squats will build more overall strength. Pro olympic lifters vs pro powerlifters are doing very different things however. One is based on explosiveness and other really huge weights moving at a slow rate. YOU ARE (most likely) NOT A FUCKING PRO LIFTER. So it won't matter. Do low bar squats if you want functional strength. Do high bar if you want to become a pro olympic lifter (or an amateur weightlifter if you simply like the challenge of doing cleans, snatch etc) or as an assistance exercise for low bar. Stop pretending you high bar squat a million times more than average low bar squatters or are somehow "technically" better. You don't and you aren't. You're absolutely braindead if you think high bar squats are objectively better than low bar squats.
@@Zipped_in high bar is a LOT more useful for athleticism than low bar simply because it builds your quads wayyyy more and because it mimics positions in sports a lot more than low bar. A high bar squat angled forward is more or less a sprint stance for example, low bar has no real positional carryover to anything. It lets you lift a little more absolute weight most of the time but overall unless you're powerlifting high bar is better for everything else
I had to cut range from a hip injury and started squating higher with 120kg when my RM was 90kg and had never squatted higher. Ended doing high volume on box squats with 120 cause I wasnt used to more weight in the back.
I've always done squats Olympic style. Fairly close stance and I sit right down with it. Not very heavy weight to be honest but full range of motion for sure. I've literally had someone come up to me after finishing a set and ask "those look really good what do you call that?" And I was just doing squats.... Focus on your damn form people, leave your ego elsewhere!
The 775 sumo deadlift with the bar on the back is hilarious.
😂😂😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀💀
Yeah, if they gave him that lift, he has pictures of the judges with farm animals.
@@craigstewart1532 I'm pretty sure that was a woman.
@@tyler___4558 That's also part of the joke lol
it's a squat and that's a woman
For those that dont have trained eyes, the olympic squats on this video are slightly lower than the powerlifting squats
road to 500 lbs squat no shit it was. Those aren’t powerlifters. Most powerlifting communities wouldn’t allow that type of squat
A trio of geniuses examining a youtube comment
you must be blind
What are you talking about, there was literally no difference.
r/wooosh
As a former competitive power lifter, I would red light these power lifters as they did not break parallel like you need to for a legal lift. The Olympic lifters looked incredible.
Forget about parallel. If your ass doesn't touch your calves then it's not really a squat.
american powerlifting meets are ridicilous. They werent even close to below paralell
could the fact that it was equipped lifting have anything to do with it? do the suits they use restrict range of motion?
@@harrybaals2549 The suits do not restrict range of motion. The weight compresses the joints and allow full R.O.M. The power lifters try to see what they can get by with.
@Mihajlo Stosic "representatory"??
For what I see :
Olympic lift, most of the weight is on the bar
Powerlifting, most of the weight is on the belly
My comment has gotten over 4k likes and I think this comment is way funnier
Are you completely unfamiliar with the super heavyweight Olympic record holders of the last 66+ years?
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@@ezakustam 😂😂😂
Oh it's mostly due toheavyweifht powerlifters being main examples of this bullshit
There are jacked powerlifters and Iranian powerbelly tanks of olympic lifters
Those olympic lifters probably got salmonella for lifting so raw and low
Raw and deep, only way I fu....wait, what are we talking about?
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@@agustinbre364 Joke
This is one of the best comments I have seen
Comment stolen from Clarence Kennedy's video... it's still hilarious tho.
What's the difference, you may ask?
One did a squat, the other one unracked it.
j o lmao those were bad examples of powerlifting squats 💀 you could’ve done some real examples from people like Russel Orhi you biased bastard lmaooooo💀
Jajajjajaaa true. But it has evolved !
Ass 2 grass looks painful
Joey Hernandez ...so does stopping halfway through a squat with your feet pointed towards the walls
Lowbar vs highbar
"in equipped powerlifting, the only hand gesture that should accompany the squat command is air quotes" - infinite elgintensity
I see you are a channel of culture as well
That's fucking genius lol
Damn! I always find smart people in comments 🤜
The patellar tendon strength between these two groups would be wild to study
And the medial meniscus, I'm sure the level of ware on the Olympic lifters had to be much higher than those powerlifters
@@markobegus interesting I'll def check it out
@@markobegus makes sense im uneducated on it tho
@@markobegus awesome reply. It blows my mind when clowns say, it's bad for knees , bad for back blah blah.
@@nw3877 hear that a lot especially as a physio lol I guess it's mostly when either people go up weights too fast without having enough experience with doing squats and deadlifts properly. Problem is there's always 2 schools of thought when it comes to this: 1) strict everything, proper alignment, movement checklist & 2) a person's body is different as compared to other so we should allow a bit of leeway when it comes to form. Personally, I'd rather go with the 2nd. And to add to what the guy said above, research suggests not just the meniscus but also ACL and other ligaments are thicker in weightlifters, though I'm not sure whether those are olympic-level.
Olympic squats are poetry in motion
very much so
Indeed I must say.
Facts bro... Read my mind
Clean and elegant
Agreed.
Just to add, a chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.
I’m going out on a limb and saying this channel prefers weightlifting
I don't see what would lead you to this conclusion
This guy should do a part 2 where raw powerlifters like kevin oak, eric lilliebridge, larry wheels, john haack, pete rubish, jesse norris, dan green squat to great depth with huge weights and compare those to weighlifting squats that would be an honest comparison
@@NK-xz9mx these were heavily cherry-picked to make powerlifting look bad.
@@nesamdoom yeah powerlifters were all from the equipped (not raw) division, from some american federations with super bad squat depth standards
No shit
that part at around 1:45 with Pyrros... it still gets me really emotional. it was his last olympics and last professional performance, where he got bronze medal and then the audience gave him a standing ovation for literally 15 minutes, halting the entire ceremony. magical moment
This is nonsense. None of those powerlifting squats should have passed, even by their own rules. The first one is just an abomination. It's also well known how much the rules and judging vary between federations. This is essentially a non-issue within the IPF, for example.
Can someone make a 10-hour cut of classical music with high bar squat footage
agreed
So peaceful
Why are some people so obsessed with squats
@@solitaryconfinement1975 because they like doing it?
@@solitaryconfinement1975 Because it's an amazing exercise.
Sorry that 775 was NOT a squat
those squaters are fucking clowns
She just moved her abs a couple inches
@POOR PIRANO it's impressive that she can move it yeah, and I'm sure she's strong as fuck. But that's not a squat, you don't need to squat 600 to know that
None powerlift squat was it
David Lingner non of em was.
I low key listen to classical music while working out. It helps me stay focus with my form when doing an exercise.
YES.
Classical music really helps me work on my form and in controlling my breathing.
Ur weird
@@ijnebenji6705 Bad thing?
As long as it's low key.
@goggles789 It's not that serious my man. You act like he low key said he farts on your mom's face while she's sleeping.
I can't belive this video I made in about 10 minutes 6 years ago has over 2 million views 😂 Once I get 1000 subs I will make part 2 and ensure it is even more fair, balanced and accurate than this video.
Everyone sub to this guy
Lol everyone listens to metal now
Alright buddy, time for part 2 :)
what is the song on the powerlifting bits?
it is that time
That classical music fits perfectly with those perfect squats.
🤚✋
Also known as the Champions league theme
@Anabolic Cheeseburger Yup.. Ruined so much sporting events. No Olympics either
@@TheKeisari it honestly brought back the Zidane volley memory and a small European tear trickled down my face into my glass of chateauneuf du pape.
'Classical' xD
The funniest thing to me was how the Weightlifting squats were from training sessions while the Powerlifting squats were from competitions.
Yeah those were ”true” powerlifting competitions
Ikr
Well that's because weightlifters don't squat in competition
Well you don't squat in an Olympic lift meet
@Clayton Bigsby this video is cherrypicking the worst of powerlifting, why use an accurate representation of the majority?
This video is the reason why Clarence squats at the back room of a church
0:39 that is just sickening. Beautiful, but sickening. I can’t even imagine squatting that much weight with that form. Incredible strength.
Dude sad down for a good minute with the weights.
5 second pause squats feel like an absolute eternity with any amount of weight, let alone the 250+kg on that bar...
Pause Squat by Dmitry Klokov.
the feeling you had is called being Klokoved
These "powerlifters"really making powerlifting look like a joke
Wellllll
Correct comment
kkdb22 powelifting is a joke.
Putturin, says a guy who probably doesn’t even lift.
Yeah I agree, these videos were incredibly bad examples.
There's a beauty to a properly performed squat.
There's a beauty to all exercises done properly. Makes me satisfied.
This is like aesthetic art vs shitting
Proof that the champions league theme goes along with everything.
This should be called "Olympic squats vs geared Westside barbell squats".
***** Ok. Just stating a fact.
+Powerlifting - Deadlift / Squat / Bench u dont need to go atg on squat in powerlifting.. oly liters do it because it helps them catch the weight as it comes down from the clean. they HAVE to go deeper, it doesnt make anyone better or worse
+JaayProdiJaay nobody is questioning depth per sport. I think the video was using these particular lifts to prove the major difference between the sports because they're two extremes. Not saying one is better than the other.
+Brian Watts ，agree.last time i see 1 of the forum mention that westside people sometime used this wide foot stance squat during training to activate the glute muscle, and help to break through normal stance squat PR. i dont understand what is wide foot stance squat untill i se this video and yours comment .
KJH Drug Free Masters Powerlifting bravo!
Geared powerlifting is cancer. Raw is a million times better to watch.
yeah is so ridiculous they not that strong, only cheats
They still strong as fuck bro lol. Even 700 for 1 shitty rep with no depth is better than 99.9999% of the population, especially as a woman. I bet she could rep 405 with perfect form, no gear.... can you?
+Kurt W read my comment again. "Better to watch" I'm talking about which form of powerlifting I prefer viewing for entertainment . I never doubted anyone's strength; I just don't find it entertaining when I see men and women lift while wearing insane amounts of gear.
Mo Yusuf The guy after you said they "are not that strong" and "cheats". I was clearly responding to him
+Kurt W should've responded to him directly, I don't agree with him.
0:45 holy shit that’s a thing of beauty
Oh that’s just Klokov
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@@gainer448 lol was thinking the same thing when i saw this comment.
Says the dumb guy who does know shit about high bar squats
@@svperionsatanam7526 i cant tell if you got that obsolete was mocking people who think that or not
@@sakaue I get it dude, in highbar is very common that knees point further
Relax guys, I'm pretty sure this video was meant to be funny. There are great powerlifters out there that squat deep, but that wouldn't have been funny.
Watch IPF worlds. Or look at the squats on my channel, I'm a powerlifter.
Justin Morgan Yeah this was just a joke video, are people actually getting butt hurt over this?
They could do box squats, adjustable to the lifter based on percentage of their height, or even their femur length. It would standardize the depth. But no, a world champion isn't gonna be told his PR doesn't count when done right.
If these squats are good, why can't I rack pull instead of deadlift?
Yeah, Dan Green is a good example. Layne Norton squats "deep," but his upper body is pitched so far forward that I don't think it makes a good example in this case. I was more thinking of Bryce Lewis, Ray Williams, Chad Wesley Smith, Max Aita (who's also a weightlifter), Damien Pezzuti, Jesse Norris, Tom Martin, Bret Gibbs, Jonnie Candito, and of course, Justin Morgan (just kidding on that one).
Haha yea I'm a powerlifter and I got compliments on my form and depth from an olympic lifter. I lift raw, beltless (recently introduced a belt during some high volume high intensity deadlifts mostly to get used to it to use during competition, since raw still allows a belt wrist wraps and knee sleeves and that stuff does add weight.) These multiply lifters wont ever get passed in the IPF.
I do powerlifting in the gym. Bench, deadlift and Squat. I don’t do Olympic lifts, but I always squat Olympic style. Much more aesthetics to see, and proper Ass to Grass
I used to squat high bar all the time, now I squat low but still atg and with a pretty strict stance
You can still squat deep low bar, depends on how good your flexibility and form is. Personally high bar hurts my back more and I like low bar anyway it's way more comfortable because I'm tall.
@Fatty Tee Your right about the gear but I meant mainly in just a belt.
@Fatty Tee First guy was 295kg.
Fatty Tee Actually most lifts shown are well above the 550 mark. I believe the lowest bar I saw was klokovs 1 hour long paused squat that was around 540 still. First dude had like 650 on.
What I think is really funny is that powerlifters always just slightly bend their knees during a squat with 15 guys spotting and then act all tough and hyped and Olympic lifters basically squat by sitting on the ground and getting up with no spotters and don't even have facial expressions
that's because the powerlifters are trying to set a record and the olympic lifters are just training
@@sophovot5079 world record of what? 25% complete squat? 1/4 squat championship? However you call that BS, that's not a squat lol
@@untbam I feel like powerlifting ESPECIALLY equipped has evolved so much that rly they only care abt the numbers they put on the board and I honestly think that’s why the depth has gotten so bad they just wanna see more plates on the bar
Like everywhere else, there are bad examples. These powerlifters make it look stupid.
@@untbam this is a sumo squat don’t be a dumbass. The person who selected this compare a deep squat to a sumo squat. Unless you can do a full box split. You can’t go any deeper doing sumo.
When you see a slavic olympic lifter and his form/stance/range of motion and how smooth everything is... You start to question, what the F are these clowns in the US are doing ?
They weren't even hitting legal depth in powerlifting. The rules are clear that the crease in the leg and hip has to be below the top of the knee. The olympic squat is to train a part of the clean and jerk or snatch whereby the futher deeper they can get, then the less high the bar has to be cleaned or snatched for the first part of the movement.
From what I know, some powerlifting federations don't enforce that rule, correct?
No he’s correct they are regulated to go down pause and then come up hold , I don’t think those were comps I think those were just “lift sessions” bc there’s normally a guy who says ok down , ok up , rack
Just watch Larry wheels in his comps there all regulated besides steroid testing
@@Armored_RC there is no up command on the squat but there is on bench press
All of the Powerlifting squats shown were multi-ply equipped squats and knee wraps, they might not have been able to get parallel. There are so many proper examples of a Powerlifting squat done right, look at any Ray Williams or Larry Wheels or Pete Rubish squat video
I am a powerlifter,but that wide stance,equipped shit is stupid as fuck.I do not understand why people would do it.You are not demonstrating strength.They are barely hitting depth,and it comes down to who has better equipment.I compete RAW with wraps,but I do not use wraps.I just like squatting,and demonstrating raw strength.
17MXT I completely agree. Raw is respectable. This is ludicrous.
17MXT So does sumo pulls..
LennyAob No.
Relative strength demonstration you mean ...
+17MXT When I began powerlifting, I didn't even know "RAW" and "equipped" existed. Not only those people are using accessories to help them lift more, but also their form is questionable.
the virgin below parallel squat vs the chad quarter squat
I didn’t see a legit squat from any of the powerlifters.
It's honestly amazing how flexible these Olympic lifters are.
The other "lifters" are just as flexible, but they are lazy and so dishonest.
Anyone who really believes this has never worked out seriously. Flexibility like that takes immense effort and training time that most powerlifters don't have or even want as it is not useful to their goals.
@@brandonwalker5011 bro is literally lazy and dishonest.
Those music choices were perfect
Those Olympic lifters are just poetry in motion. Pure class.
Honestly there's nothing more satisfying than watching Oly weightlifters like Lu Xiaojun back squat. Long torso, short femurs, super upright high bar squat. It just looks so clean and easy. So much depth. So beautiful.
Edit: Just saw the bit where the "powerlifting" keeps cutting to shots of Pyrros shaking his head LOL
As a powerlifter I will 100% agree that olympic lifting is much more difficult and oly lifters tend to be far more athletic. However, this video is still a pretty sad representation of powerlifters
But the olympic squat is all abaout the anatomy of your body. Short femur, long torso, good ankle mobility etc. Think most people would do it if they were born to be capeable of it
not true stop making excuses
Nicklol you have to learn abou the anatomy before commenting here.
Stop using short femurs, long torso..etc as an excuse for bad mobility.
Nicklol short femur guy talking lmao. Like i said, dont talk about something u dont know anything about.
As someone with a powerlifting background, I'm far more impressed by the Olympic-style squats.
I got the femurs of a 198cm person but I'm just 185cm tall. Sucks that even after hundreds of hours of stretching and mobility work I still can't do olympic squats unless I put some elevation under my already elevated weightlifting shoes. I want to do them too
Nothing wrong with adding extra heel height. For reference, it's pretty common among Chinese lifters even at the top level. Just make sure the cobbler uses an incompressible material. The standard 0.75 inches of heel elevation sported by most weightlifting shoes is not some magical number that fits every person. It's simply a standardized measure to cut manufacturing costs.
@@MayaEmbas You don't have to choose between the two squats on the vid tho. There are decent squats inbetween
Jesusmetalhead I used to do olympic type squats and i kept injuring my adductors because my knees would sometimes cave inwards very slightly when i went up. It wasnt cave in by a lot, but slighly, and over time i kept getting injured. So i just do a wider stance now and i squat just below parralel and my adductors are fine now.
I would love to do olympic squats again but i dont want to risk getting injured again.
xg g just get stronger legs so your knees don’t cave in
I swear some powerlifters do everything to make ROM as short as they can
From the hip flexors to the IT bands to the tendons and ligaments in your knees and ankles all the way up to the back and shoulders you feel every little detail with the Olympic squat, ATG ♾.
1:36 "VAGINAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
lol
jajaja que buen oido
oh yeah!
LOL I can't believe I didn't hear that the first time
xD
That look of Pyrros Dimas at the end... hilarious
Exact 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Αναρωτιεμαι πως δεν καταληγουν τραμματιες στο τελος
What was that footage from?
@@FK-we1dp The final footage from Pyrros was during the ceremony of his fourth and last Olympic Medal (bronze) in Athens. Summer of 2004.
@@ChristosPamp888 thanks man. Why is he shaking his head, just emotional? They used it in such a funny context here it’s hard to tell what he’s communicating.
This is truly one of my most favourite videos on the internet
Revisiting this is always a good time.
Music is still on par with every powerlifting gym ever
I'm into powerlifting and I found this hilarious
It's good to be able to laugh at yourself. I do CrossFit and I love it when people make fun of us. Happens all the time too lol
TheWebaa it's hilarious because it's geard powerlifting in the video, not powerlifting.
HASTA LA VISTA 552six Say what? Huh?
I'm into nascar and i found this hilarious
I'm into chicks and found this hilarious
Powerlifter or weightlifting? Who cares as long its not crossfit...
Jaleousy is bitch.
+Marijan Pavičić Spelling is a bitch.
Agreed
For me crossFit is better than powerlifting
Why for you isn't?
(I'm weightlifter)
@@afb9176 because its an endurance based sport. I wanna see someone bench or clean and jerk a crap ton of weight, not pullups my gym teacher wouldn't hit for performing or sandwhich making for reps.
The powerlifting song is 'surrounded by silence' by Design The Skylines. It starts around the 2 minute mark.
Thank you, sir.
0:42 holy depth
Watching the Olympic squats was like watching art in motion.
I love how the first guy just casually flicks the weight off his back lol
The lifter who casually flicked that 650.3 lbs off his back, was Francis Tournefier, at 99kg bodyweight.
Pyrros’ face at the end was perfect 🤣
0:38
JESUS CHRIST WTF THAT DEPTH OMG HOW
How it should be done
Slav
olympic lifters are the strongest, most powerful and most technically sound athletes of all! in my opinion of course =]
yes !
+Ganja Gains your opinion is correct dude...
nope! wieghtlifters carry way less wieghts than powerlifters.
nope! wieghtlifters carry way less wieghts than powerlifters.
cause he had like a 5 inch range of movement on that "squat" lol
You should've put Larry Wheels or Russell Orhii squats. They are both the best american powerlifters in their respective categories, and their squats are 1000x better than this joke
BIGroom house at least there actual comps and not these bs lifting “sessions” wheels for the win kids a absolute animal whole other breed next to these jokers !
exactly. How can you compare the BULGARIANS, to some average chick squatting in a bullshit federation? It makes no sense, the video kind of loses some validity. Even though, this shit is true.
Larry Wheels is gay
And 1000x natural
Agreed
Every leg day I come back to this video and just watch those beautiful Olympic weightlifters.
Champions league theme music really helped drive this home
HAHA! Love the Pyrros Dimas crying reaction! :D
olympic squat is the ABSOLUTE squat
+Your ex swallowed my LOAD preach
+BrainTrance agree 100% my dude. i used to do squats just below paralell, but i injured myself and had to restart lifting a year later. im now doing olympic squats and althought i have to use a lot less weight, my body is looking amazing these days (imo of course) because of high reps with olympic squatz
+Ganja Gains ayyy lmao im high too
+Leandro Augusto Olympic high bar ATG squats do not require dna/genetics lol..any sport related to physical performance is enhanced with strong genetics. That doesn't mean you can't train with shitty genetics and not perform the high bar squat used in Olympic lifting. Hard work beats genetics any day and yes, I agree that Olympic weightlifting requires more hard work than any strength required sport. Not just physically, but mentally as well with the technique involved. These guys you see doing the Olympic high bar squats in the video have all been training for decades before this footage was even taken.
Ganja Gains when you say "high reps", what's the range you're talking about?
The late great powerlifter Fred Hatfield always believed in high-bar squats in the offseason were great for base-building for powerlifting(as is using the ssb bar! Granted, we have powerlifters like Dan Green and Death grip Derek who can squat atg regardless of bar position!
Years ago, this video helped me on my journey.
cracks me up every time!
Those fucking powerlifting squats COUNTED???
Yeah as long as you hit below 90 degrees it's a good lift
Those lifts were equipped ligts from the halfsquat federations. IPF squats are better
+Jake H yeah in ipf if you squat that high it'll be a no lift
lol, those were 45 degrees not 90
Dude everything counts in powerlifting, and even the IPF. Wanna bounce the bar on your chest for bench? Sure! Wanna flare elbows? Sure! Wanna make the bench press into a decline? Sure! Wanna spread your legs ultra wide during bench? Sure! Wanna use equipment to lift some of the weight for you? Sure! Powerlifting is a sport where everyone gets a trophy, win or lose.
The real crime here is the fact those powerlifting judges are actually green-lighting those half squats. It's shit like that, that utterly undermines the sport of powerlifting.
The champions league theme in the background is pure gold haha
Very biased video, but I get your point
Very biased indeed... selection bias.
B T Darwinism!!!!
It's supposed to be funny because powerlifters act like turbo rage ultra god monsters until they actually have to lift
Do some research, and youll see the top sofistication of the Olympic lifter, to the same ratio of powerlifter that actually have grace to use proper form. Thats just statistics man... but, yes. Very bais indeed
@@shitposterextraordinaire6680 it's not that. Those squats (the powerlifting ones shown) aren't even legal in IPF...
Edit: added context
Another possible name for the video:
Quality vs Quantity.
By quantity I was meaning to the weight
quarter squatting 300kg(powerlifting) or atg for 230kg(weightlifting)?
Jokk3asd be my guest :D
Jokk3asd i guess you can quarter squat 450kg then
+Yopi8 i think he meant clarence kennedy i seen him get 300 kg full depth with a pause
the number of times i’ve come back to watch this video...
I see this all the time at the gym...im still basically a novice but I practice perfect form and go all the way ass to grass....I watch dudes on the racks next to me all the time throw 300 on the bar and squat down like 3 inches and stand back up.
I may not lift as much as them (yet) but regardless of how long it takes me I will do so with perfect form all the way down
These olympic lifters stand up faster with 250kg on their shoulders than I stand up from my chair wtf
Powerlifting squat should be called hip dips lmfao
Best squatting I have ever seen, I didn't even know pure squatting like this existed in competetion.
Powerlifting squat: Slightly bend your knees as you move your torso forward, giving the impression of some depth. GOT IT!
For those who don't understand. In proper federations these squats would be red lighted into oblivion. But even then, powerlifters don't go as deep as weightlifters. The main reason is the fact that powerlifters mostly employ lowbar position (the barbell rests on your lower delts). This position pushes your back and knees forward,( to make sure the center of gravity goes through middlefoot). Going ATG with this position is both dangerous and physiologically impossible for most of the population due to lack of enough ankle mobility. But at the end of the day lowbar WILL allow you to move more weight due to extra employment of lower back and hamstrings. Highbar position which is the one that WL use allow you to keep your torso vertical which is what's needed for snatch and clean and jerk. WL don't have use for lowbar even though lowbar would allow them to squat more.
For anyone reading this today: this is not true. I can ATG low bar and high bar. It's not dangerous and it feels genuinely comfortable. Western people like to act like deep squats are not physically possible when lots of the world manages to rest in that position.
@@MrMinermation It's an incredibly narcissistic and self-centered stance to think that just because YOU can squat ass to grass both ways, that everybody can. There are 8 billion people on Earth and you are ONE of them. I can't squat ass to grass lowbar, there is no way in hell. Also there is no actual reason to go ATG if your primary goal is strength and not power and mobility, which is what highbar and ATG is for. Check your information first before you comment again.
@@MrMinermation Squatting to parallel is absolutely fine and powerlifters and strongman show time and time again that is the best way to obtain maximum strength, you gaslighters constantly have to act all mighty and high with your ATG philosophy. Get off your high horse, dude.
Only part I see wrong here is your knees don't go forward in low bar. High bar is more Quads and results in more need flexion, low bar is more back and doesn't have as much knee flexion. Watch a high bar lift vs a low bar lift from the side. You lean more forward yes, but knees do not go forward, they actually stay further back. And I also can comfortably go deeper with low bar. Because since my knees don't go further out, my ankle mobility isn't as restrictive.
@@mirkomarjanovic3234 you just need to train mobility. It's not impossible. Every single olympic lifter who has trained mobility can do it. It's an incredibly lazy and demotivating stance to think that just because YOU can't be bothered training mobility, everyone else shouldn't give it a go as well.
this video will never be not funny
just depends on the federation you are competing in. You can't squat like that in any federation that I know of
I was wondering why I am so comfortable in depth squat (am i wrong ?) But this video motivated me to continue thanks 🙏
These lifters are the worst representations of powerlifting
Once you start squatting high bar ATG like an olympic lifter you just can't take low bar seriously.
Jack facts
100% agree
i think its just two different thing, im just sad because lot of powerlifter want to overcome lack of mobility with what they call ''raw power'', where your human body is just not 100% free in his move
Fuck off dumbass. Low bar squats build total body strength. If you put a person through a program that uses low bar squats vs putting high bar squat, the person doing low bar squats will build more overall strength.
Pro olympic lifters vs pro powerlifters are doing very different things however. One is based on explosiveness and other really huge weights moving at a slow rate. YOU ARE (most likely) NOT A FUCKING PRO LIFTER. So it won't matter. Do low bar squats if you want functional strength. Do high bar if you want to become a pro olympic lifter (or an amateur weightlifter if you simply like the challenge of doing cleans, snatch etc) or as an assistance exercise for low bar. Stop pretending you high bar squat a million times more than average low bar squatters or are somehow "technically" better. You don't and you aren't.
You're absolutely braindead if you think high bar squats are objectively better than low bar squats.
@@Zipped_in high bar is a LOT more useful for athleticism than low bar simply because it builds your quads wayyyy more and because it mimics positions in sports a lot more than low bar. A high bar squat angled forward is more or less a sprint stance for example, low bar has no real positional carryover to anything. It lets you lift a little more absolute weight most of the time but overall unless you're powerlifting high bar is better for everything else
The choir music with the Olympic lifter squats kills me 🤣🤣🤣
This video never gets old for me
Olympic lifting is better in my opinion.
Tyler Hamrick no
Jose Hernandez how to get stronger squats
Yea but oranges taste better
@Dance Electric And half the raw strength don't forget that
Olympic lifters lift pussy weight.
As a fan of both sports this was hilarious. Very well put together!
Hello! I would like to know what is the ideal angle of separation between my feet in weightlifting, how could I find out?
Experiment with what feels natural and strong and that will be best
I had to cut range from a hip injury and started squating higher with 120kg when my RM was 90kg and had never squatted higher. Ended doing high volume on box squats with 120 cause I wasnt used to more weight in the back.
Damn! This is inspirational. The high bar rules!Thank you for posting.
The song that plays during the olympic squats is the Champions League theme for anyone wondering
Olympic style squats are like art.
Olympic bois be like: An elegant exercise from a more civilized time.
I've always done squats Olympic style. Fairly close stance and I sit right down with it. Not very heavy weight to be honest but full range of motion for sure. I've literally had someone come up to me after finishing a set and ask "those look really good what do you call that?" And I was just doing squats.... Focus on your damn form people, leave your ego elsewhere!
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lol
+skirts365 ^^^ pretty much
Im back after two years to this video. Still dont know what the name of this heavy metal song is 😔
Nice 1/2 Squat @ 2:18.
I like how the olympic lifters just look like they drank some coffee looaded the bar then squatted. Very powerful yet so eloquent
I get the impression this guy doesn’t like powerlifting.
Recently starting doing Olympic squats and for these guys who are adding in a 3 second pause really are goats
Where can I find more music like the one played during the Olympic squats