I have an RX 7900 XTX and I know very well that this isn't even a fight when it comes to performance. However, the RTX 4090 isn't even remotely worth its asking price if you're just a gamer.
I think the 7900 XTX did extremely well when overclocked ... it was able to win 5 games, which is great considering the price difference of the cards ... this is why data matters.
Great video, had 4090 suprim x last year but it had faulty heatsink and center fan, after using it like that for the month, decided to RMA it, they didn't had replecement so got my money back. Decided not to buy 4090 again and kept my old 3080, however it died before new year and got 7900 xtx nitro plus, couldn't be happier, don't care about ray tracing and where it's needed AMD is either faster or on par with 4090 for half the price
You have to do this please. Undervolted the 7900 xtx to 2400mhz or a little bit lower and see how efficient it becomes or how bad the performance drops. It would be a sick vid for us 7900 xtx owners. Also it would be interesting to comparing it to other clocks speeds or other cards at the same price point or higher. Love your vids man and the consistency.
I think you means reduce the clock speed to 2400mhz or lower and undervolt? Why would you want to do that? Do you prefer fewer frames per second or just want to reduce the wattage used? In either case, you'd just be turning the 7900XTX into a 7900XT or GRE. It's like purposely running a V8 on 6 cylinders because you'll burn less fuel. Yeah, but you'll make less horsepower. Why not just buy the V6, instead?
@@CourageOO7 7900 xt can consome as much as the xtx on stock. I dont know about the gre but that bus width isnt looking that great, also i want the full 24gb of vram plus the added CUs and Raytracing.
@@CourageOO7 You don't need to reduce it to 2400mhz, a simple cap at 2600 or so and a heavy undervolt will do the job, and yes, you can get it below 300w with about the same performance as a reference 7900xtx without losing any performance.
It's impressive that you could see them ... Drizzt is my favorite character ... I have his swords up on the wall and a small statue/figure of him holding his swords next to them ... I'm eagerly waiting for the day when they announce a Netflix or Amazon series on the books 😉
It’s actually pretty straight forward with Adrenalin … I can add it as bonus content to a future video or do a short on it … if you have a ryzen cpu as well then the project Hydra software is great for optimizing your cpu/gpu combination … planning to do a tutorial on that too. Thanks for watching!
Seems like at 1440p the XTX is matched and sometimes beat by the 4090 but really only in titles with raytracing. To me, it’s worth the XTX price considering how stupid expensive the 4090 is with a small increase in performance
For me it has to be Anderson Silva ... when he was at the top of his game I just loved the way he messed with his opponents ... super talented fighter.
The 7900xtx is definitely a beast, its a shame that its ray tracing performance does not rival that of NVIDIAs. However for the price, you are still getting great graphics regardless. Also I have the AW2725DF which is an amazing glossy OLED 360hz panel @ 1440p, 27 inch. Would highly recommend to other people who are considering it and if you are a student you may be eligible to get it at a reduced price! Great video as always , hopefully soon I will be able to upgrade from my 2070 super to actually make use of the 1440p monitor at its refresh rate
Yeah thats very true, i have my old 1080p monitors as secondary monitors and the difference in image quality is insane! Keep it up with the great content :)@@blackbirdpctech
It was tough to rank these monitors since they all use the same Samsung 3rd Gen QD-OLED display, so it all comes down to personal preference ... while I'm still waiting to take delivery of my Asus monitor you are playing games on your Alienware monitor, so that's a huge advantage!
07:14 Beauty, .. I just don't fancy 120fps+ for me isn't about price but if they both perform well @4k 90fps why overspend. and keeping in mind witch wolf to feed I'd hader go with the gamer community focus than the greedy overprice brandy ones, .. good video, Thanks.
Nice vid. I always like seeing how much performance we can get out of these cards. I wouldnt be suprised if you could get alittle more out of the 7900XTX with liquid cooling. I know with my 6950XT LC I'm getting close to 7900XT numbers in alot of benchies and games with stable OC daily settings.- Graphics scores TSE-12.2k/PortRoy-12.7k.
For sure, I was thinking about liquid cooling it to see just how far I could push it ... it would be interesting to test 10 Sapphire cards just to see if they bin the silicon ... based on what I have seen online most people that get one and try overclocking it get good results, so it's likely they do. Thanks for watching and the comment.
I think a lot of people don’t understand the business … Nvidia has no reason to release a 4090 Ti because they would only compete with themselves … makes no sense.
I have the xfx rx7900xtx ,i have that ca rd buyed by launch its was a long way to the Performance that habe the card im the Moment but the Price is so much better i think in this time is the best time to buying a xtx
I’ve used a curve on my Samsung monitors for many years, but they were either widescreen or much larger … I only got to spend 20min with the Alienware model at CES but that was my initial takeaway. I guess it really comes down to personal preference. That said I was very close to buying one so go figure 😉
@@blackbirdpctech I almost ordered the Alienware one to replace my G7 but I don't want another monitor without DP 2.0 or 2.1 whatever the newest one is so I will wait for next year for my upgrade ( the Gigabyte one is not an option because its flat ) I had 2 flat 32" monitors before the G7 and sometimes I felt like they were too big while with the curve I don't have that problem
We don't really know a lot about the Samsung G80SD and it's releasing later than all of the other QD-OLED's so perhaps it will launch with a curve and DP2.1
Hi Matt, how is your experience with HDMI and DP cables? such as material quality, bandwidth performance, since some of the side problems like game crashing and some flickering from the cheap cable that came with the old monitors have being resolve with a new cable from my new HDMI 2.1 cable and DP 2.0. planing to buy in the next months a 32" 4K 120 IPS or save more and buy an OLED before year end.
I tend to always buy more premium cables to avoid any potential issue but the reality is as long as they meet the standard then you should be fine. I've had some minor issues with HDMI 2.1 so I prefer DP, but the extra bandwidth offered is helpful ... that is until DP2.1 becomes widely adopted. The good news is with the new QD-OLED monitors becoming more widely available the IPS monitors will drop in price, so either way you will win.
would be nice to state that the lg monitor has a matte finish and not glossy as well. the one that has the 2 options to run in. not a fan of matte myself
Agreed, I should have mentioned that ... what's interesting to me is that from the reviews of the LG monitor that I've seen it is supposed to be a fantastic display ... apparently the matte finish doesn't impact the display in a negative way ... I will have to check it out and see for myself.
Good video ! I had the nitro but ended up catching a good deal on the white Taichi 7900xtx and I was able to get more clock out of it , I’ve also played with the speedster and red devil and I have to say the Taichi has been the winner for me at least !
Thanks ... I haven't tried the Taichi but I like the look of it. I have a Red Devil and I really like the look of that card, especially the replaceable backplate. I just purchased the argb fans for the Nitro+ to add a bit of extra bling to the card ... absolutely no performance benefit of course 😉
@@blackbirdpctech ohhh where do they make replaceable argb fans for it ? Very curious and yes I ended with with the white taichi cause it is beautiful in person and my build is white so I had to , but imo the red devil is the best overall looking rgb xtx hands down
@ryrysuperman hey I have the same card and it's a beast. I'm curious what settings do you use. I'm at 2650 min 2950 max 15+power and 2714 on the memory.
@@user-lg9lm3qq8q I have mine at 3300 , min is 1000, voltage is at 1080 , the vram is at 2830 the max power is turned up all the way . My fan curve is set to 95,85,75 etc I have a good cooling case also I never have any issues with it my timespy score is around a 34k, I would suggest 3050,3100 if leaving it that way all the time but I’ve had mine this way for 6 months with no issues
As usual that cyberpunk result with ray tracing inflating the other all picture of performance. That's why I never use it, it can give results that aren't reality. I'd do two tests. One without it, and one with it. Allot of people simply don't use it, and will always want native and higher fps. That's the question. From what I can see tho it's VERY competitive rayt racing aside. And in light rray traced titles it's doing rather well. Honestly I'd probably pick up an xtx over a 4080 just because it does get vastly superior overall, not just in 3 titles with tech demo ray tracing on.
It does skew the results that why I provided a chart without Cyberpunk, Avatar and F1 (all RT titles) ... this is the 12 Game average that I showed in the video. I was surprised at how well the Sapphire Nitro overclocked and how competitive it was given that it is significantly cheaper. Thanks for watching!
@@blackbirdpctech yes true but I only play 4k up to 120Hz so more than 120 FPS are not needed and I get my performance even with undervolting. The most time I don't play raytracing games. So the 4090 consumes max 250-300 watts. Undervolting is a really nice thing 👍
Hopefully it’s going to be an exciting end to the year … if battlemage is actually good at an aggressive price that could help bring down prices across the board.
3090 launched in late 2020. It’s 300$ more expensive now. I would just bite the bullet and pre order a 50xx card, maybe 2. One for resale and for use. Instead of hating on NVIDIA, I would be hating on the Chinese government for causing this supply problem. 1600$ for a 4090 FE was expensive but not a crazy mark up from the 3090 msrp at launch. This shortage is more to blame than anything else.
Good video. I want to like AMD.. But a friend just got a new 7800xt and we spent a couple of hours trying to get it to work properly (we DDU'ed the drivers and did a fresh install twice and then tried slightly older drivers). We couldn't create a custom resolution and refresh rate and there was serious sudden lag in games around 2% of the time. (He has 64gb of system memory with a 5800x3d). We watched multiple youtube trouble shooting guides on AMD settings and we couldn't get it to work properly. I lent him my 3080 10gb. DDU'ed the drivers, installed new Nvidia drivers and with-in 5 minutes we had a custom resolution and refresh rate created and zero lag in games. He returned the 7800xt and got a 4070ti Super. It works PERFECT just like the 3080 did. What am I supposed to say? What is my friend who is a tech novice supposed to think? I am not a fan boy at all. I like AMD cpu's, I just wish their video cards were on par.
When you have a bad experience with any tech it will clearly impact your opinion of the brand and their products, so I can appreciate your perspective ... I would have a similar opinion in the same situation. Fortunately I've had a good experience with the 7000 series. I use both Nvidia and AMD GPU's on a daily basis and I've had minor issues with drivers from both companies but in general I would give an advantage to AMD for their software and an advantage to Nvidia for their driver compatibility.
now put that 7900xtx against a asus rog 4090 or any partner card at stock :). comparing a partner card against base nvidia cards is not a fair comparison imo
It was never intended to be “fair” given that the 7900 XTX is overclocked and the 4090 isn’t. That said, the Founder’s Edition card is no slouch when it comes to performance, and don’t forget that partner model 4090’s are more expensive, so the value story for the 4090 would only get worse with partner model cards.
Not bad for amd when you consider the 7900xtx is like 900usd and the 4090 is 2000usd. HELL for what you save you can build the rest of the computer lol.
Unfortunately I didn’t test this 7900 xtx at stock settings for this video … I tested it in an earlier video at stock, but that was with much earlier drivers. Is there something specific you were interested in?
@@blackbirdpctechI play mostly call of duty, I just wanted to know if 7900xtx is a better pick than 4080/4080s as the price difference is very less now.
Yes, the RT settings turn it on by default. As noted on the chart, frame gen is not available for AMD cards in Cyberpunk. The reverse is true in Avatar where the 7900 XTX used FSR 3 with frame gen and the 4090 used DLSS without frame gen. This is also why I provided an average performance summary without those two games in addition to the full suite.
Thanks, I try to test in a way that reflects how people are likely to play most games … in single player titles like Cyberpunk and Avatar there is really no downside to using frame gen because the increase in system latency doesn’t impact the game experience.
@@blackbirdpctech I agree , I would definitely use it if I played Avatar , I'm actually waiting for FSR 3 FG to be added to Cyberpunk so I can replay it on my 7900XTX , I messed around with AFMF and although it wasn't bad full implementation will be even better
There's definitely something odd going on here. Usually a stock 7900XTX beats a 4090 in COD too, but here it's pretty much equal to a 4090 whilst overclocked 🤔
@markjacobs1086 it’s equal at 4K and wins by ~15% at 1080P … these are all at ultra game settings. One thing to be careful of is comparing data at different game settings. Most professional COD players turn the settings down, which helps the 7900 XTX. If there is something specific you would like me to look at let me know but it’s obviously difficult to respond to someone’s expectations of what they believe the performance should be.
Chinese government is so annoying. The average American consumer can’t even enjoy a 4090 for msrp due to their policies lol. Why are we suffering for their decisions 😩
They see AI as a way to compete militarily with the US so unfortunately that impacts 4090 availability … even after the state department ban, the 4090D is still impacting the number of 4090’s available globally.
@@blackbirdpctech yeah of corse, she never played a game before but now were playin together at the same desk in the same room its awesome to show her everything and stuff i have to say 😊
Yes, Avatar only allows frame gen with fsr3, as noted on the chart. Cyberpunk only allows frame gen with dlss, as noted on that chart. I test both titles with RT and frame gen on which will favor each card. In that way they tend to balance each other out when averaged with all other games.
I agree that Nvidia cards can use fsr however it’s not something I would ever do because dlss offers better quality. I think it’s reasonable to test these two games in this way because it shows the real user experience … I don’t really like it when manufacturers sponsor titles and block competitor features but it’s real. I find it strange that you didn’t seem to have an issue with Cyberpunk 2077 given that it was tested the same way. That said I did show an average gaming performance chart in the video without both of these titles.
@@blackbirdpctech Real user experience would be that both amd and nvidia users have access to fg in avatar, second part of my previous comment show that I do have issue with comparing apples to oranges - fg numbers vs non fg.
That is NOT a valid user experience because Nvidia GPU owners don't use FSR3 for upscaling (regardless of whether it's available to them), they use DLSS, which is objectively a superior upscaling technology. So it's extremely unlikely that a 4090 owner would run Avatar with FSR3 turned on simply to get access to frame generation. I appreciate that you have an issue, but what I don't understand is why you are focused on Avatar and not Cyberpunk, and also why you chose to ignore the average performance chart without these titles. My objective is to be as unbiased in my assessment as possible. You are obviously welcome to disagree but by only focusing on a title that benefits AMD it comes across that you may be biased towards Nvidia.
For a rocket scientist, you are not that smart if you even consider these cards as competitors. 1- AMD clearly said that the 7900xtx competes with the 4080. 2- Ignoring the point above, you have no reason to complain about power consumption. 3- 7900xtx can be found way below their MSRP meanwhile the 4090 is rarely found at MSRP. 4- Ignoring the anticonsumer practices from Ngreedia. 5- you just lost a subscriber, since I can't take your biased reviews seriously.
It's interesting to me that people will claim bias when I don’t tell them what they want to hear. I start my video by stating "have you ever wondered if it’s possible to overclock a 7900 XTX to compete with an RTX 4090?" ... that is the context for this video. I already did a direct comparison between the 7900 XTX and 4080 and in fact, a subscriber asked me to compare an overclocked 7900 XTX against a 4090 in the comments to that video and I thought it would be interesting to investigate. In my recommendations I stated the following: "What you may not have expected is that the highly overclocked 7900 XTX was able to win 5 rounds and draw 2, a truly impressive result even against a 4090 at default settings" AND "... if you convert that into gaming efficiency or FPS/$ at 4K, then the 7900 XTX provides a knockout blow by offering significantly more value than the 4090." How is that bias? If anything the bias would be in favor of the 7900 XTX because I didn't overclock the 4090. Regardless, it's clear that you are the one with a bias and although it's disappointing to see you unsubscribe, I think it's for the best ... you clearly want to see content that supports your own internal bias against Nvidia and that's not going to happen on my channel. I will always let the data drive my recommendations so that I can deliver unbiased content.
To be honest I was expecting the 4090 to win by a larger margin so I think the 7900 XTX did well ... of course I may have gotten lucky with the silicon lottery.
That’s an interesting perspective, you think it’s unfair to test a Founder’s Edition card that actually has a very effective cooler, but you don’t have an issue that a 4090 is at least $600 more expensive?
I have an RX 7900 XTX and I know very well that this isn't even a fight when it comes to performance. However, the RTX 4090 isn't even remotely worth its asking price if you're just a gamer.
I think the 7900 XTX did extremely well when overclocked ... it was able to win 5 games, which is great considering the price difference of the cards ... this is why data matters.
Speak for yourself. I have a custom pcb xtx that beats 4090s. There's a bunch of us on tt that do it constantly.
@@traptinmymind186 you could jam 1000w @3500mhz and it wouldn't come close to the 4090 lovelace is just leaps and bounds better architecturally
@@tryharder1053 Then why aren't there any 4090s that can run more frames than this? Stay delusional, kiddo.
@@traptinmymind186 COPE LOL inferior garbage RDNA 3 is total shit try path tracing and tell me what happens after
Bruh took its not rocket science to a whole new level.
Ha ha ... I thought that would be a cool tag line for my videos 😉
@@blackbirdpctech Man you are a cool mf. Btw where are you from you have an enigmatic accent. I meant unique not difficult to understand
Thank you. I am from Australia ... grew up there and moved to the US when I was older to do grad school.
@@blackbirdpctech that is something you probably have suffered people telling you to pronounce words all day long in the us MATE
Ha ha, when I first got here it was a big learning experience … had to slow down and not talk with any Aussie slang.
Great video, had 4090 suprim x last year but it had faulty heatsink and center fan, after using it like that for the month, decided to RMA it, they didn't had replecement so got my money back.
Decided not to buy 4090 again and kept my old 3080, however it died before new year and got 7900 xtx nitro plus, couldn't be happier, don't care about ray tracing and where it's needed AMD is either faster or on par with 4090 for half the price
The nitro is one of my favorite cards of this generation, be that Nvidia or AMD ... it really is a great card. Thanks for watching!
You have to do this please. Undervolted the 7900 xtx to 2400mhz or a little bit lower and see how efficient it becomes or how bad the performance drops. It would be a sick vid for us 7900 xtx owners. Also it would be interesting to comparing it to other clocks speeds or other cards at the same price point or higher. Love your vids man and the consistency.
That's an interesting idea ... I will definitely look in to it. Thanks for the great suggestion and positive feedback!
@@blackbirdpctech Thank you so much it would cheer me up if you could do that. Since the RDNA 3 high end cards are slandered for bad efficiency.
I think you means reduce the clock speed to 2400mhz or lower and undervolt? Why would you want to do that? Do you prefer fewer frames per second or just want to reduce the wattage used? In either case, you'd just be turning the 7900XTX into a 7900XT or GRE. It's like purposely running a V8 on 6 cylinders because you'll burn less fuel. Yeah, but you'll make less horsepower. Why not just buy the V6, instead?
@@CourageOO7 7900 xt can consome as much as the xtx on stock. I dont know about the gre but that bus width isnt looking that great, also i want the full 24gb of vram plus the added CUs and Raytracing.
@@CourageOO7 You don't need to reduce it to 2400mhz, a simple cap at 2600 or so and a heavy undervolt will do the job, and yes, you can get it below 300w with about the same performance as a reference 7900xtx without losing any performance.
First time seeing any of your videos. First off, great video! Second, I noticed twinkle and icing death in the background. I want!!
It's impressive that you could see them ... Drizzt is my favorite character ... I have his swords up on the wall and a small statue/figure of him holding his swords next to them ... I'm eagerly waiting for the day when they announce a Netflix or Amazon series on the books 😉
love the production quality on this video. literally buying a cameo from bruce buffer, that definitely deserves a sub
Thank you!
Would love to see a 7900 XTX undervolting tutorial. Planning on buying a 7900 XTX and wanna save some quick bucks on electricity bills!
It’s actually pretty straight forward with Adrenalin … I can add it as bonus content to a future video or do a short on it … if you have a ryzen cpu as well then the project Hydra software is great for optimizing your cpu/gpu combination … planning to do a tutorial on that too. Thanks for watching!
The AMD Adrenalin software makes it as easy as pressing a button.
Seems like at 1440p the XTX is matched and sometimes beat by the 4090 but really only in titles with raytracing.
To me, it’s worth the XTX price considering how stupid expensive the 4090 is with a small increase in performance
I agree, I think it's a way better value option for 1440p gaming.
I love that you are a ufc fan. Would love to know who your favorite fighter is.
For me it has to be Anderson Silva ... when he was at the top of his game I just loved the way he messed with his opponents ... super talented fighter.
@@blackbirdpctech Man is you arent wrong the spider is a great among greats. I am looking forward to ufc 300 though.
The 7900xtx is definitely a beast, its a shame that its ray tracing performance does not rival that of NVIDIAs. However for the price, you are still getting great graphics regardless. Also I have the AW2725DF which is an amazing glossy OLED 360hz panel @ 1440p, 27 inch. Would highly recommend to other people who are considering it and if you are a student you may be eligible to get it at a reduced price! Great video as always , hopefully soon I will be able to upgrade from my 2070 super to actually make use of the 1440p monitor at its refresh rate
These OLED monitors are game changers … once you try them it’s tough to game on anything else … thanks for watching!
Yeah thats very true, i have my old 1080p monitors as secondary monitors and the difference in image quality is insane! Keep it up with the great content :)@@blackbirdpctech
Thank you!
I like the curve on my aw3225. Even at only 32 inch, it offers something different and a unique experience
It was tough to rank these monitors since they all use the same Samsung 3rd Gen QD-OLED display, so it all comes down to personal preference ... while I'm still waiting to take delivery of my Asus monitor you are playing games on your Alienware monitor, so that's a huge advantage!
07:14 Beauty, ..
I just don't fancy 120fps+
for me isn't about price but if they both perform well @4k 90fps why overspend.
and keeping in mind witch wolf to feed I'd hader go with the gamer community focus than the greedy overprice brandy ones, ..
good video, Thanks.
Agreed ... for single player titles, you don't really need anything above 120fps.
Nice vid. I always like seeing how much performance we can get out of these cards. I wouldnt be suprised if you could get alittle more out of the 7900XTX with liquid cooling. I know with my 6950XT LC I'm getting close to 7900XT numbers in alot of benchies and games with stable OC daily settings.- Graphics scores TSE-12.2k/PortRoy-12.7k.
For sure, I was thinking about liquid cooling it to see just how far I could push it ... it would be interesting to test 10 Sapphire cards just to see if they bin the silicon ... based on what I have seen online most people that get one and try overclocking it get good results, so it's likely they do. Thanks for watching and the comment.
@@blackbirdpctech I would agree with that. They probably bin them between the nitros and the pulse
Love you videos mate. Keep it up. Would also love to see some undervolting too.
Thank you … I did undervolt the 7900 xtx in this video … it gave me an extra ~5%, which is significant.
Man, absolutely great video. Thank you for all your hard work and providing us with quality content!
Thank you, really appreciate that!
I like turtles. Engagement is good. Another good video, amigo!!!
Ha ha ... a turtle with some rollerblades and jet propulsion 😉
Would undervolting the 7900XTX close the performance gap even further on top of the OC?
(as hinted by TechPowerUp)
I did undervolt it (take a look at the mV settings) … it has a significant impact on the performance for the 7900XTX, so I would highly recommend it.
This just proves the fact that AMD even if they launched an RX 7950 XTX wouldn't be able to touch an RTX 4090 level of performance.
For this generation the RTX 4090 is in a class of it's own ... in both performance and price 😉
@@blackbirdpctech True that. Next time people ask why there won't be an RTX 4090 Ti just show them this video.
I think a lot of people don’t understand the business … Nvidia has no reason to release a 4090 Ti because they would only compete with themselves … makes no sense.
How high ghz did you get the 7900xtx for these tests ?
I show the overclock (both for GPU and VRAM clocks) in the video just before I show the benchmark results.
I have the xfx rx7900xtx ,i have that ca
rd buyed by launch its was a long way to the Performance that habe the card im the Moment but the Price is so much better i think in this time is the best time to buying a xtx
I just bought mine though the 4080 super is just 50USD away, are you regretting it or better buy is 4080 super?
Curve is absolutely great at 32" , I could not go back to a flat screen after using G7 for over 2 years
I’ve used a curve on my Samsung monitors for many years, but they were either widescreen or much larger … I only got to spend 20min with the Alienware model at CES but that was my initial takeaway. I guess it really comes down to personal preference. That said I was very close to buying one so go figure 😉
@@blackbirdpctech I almost ordered the Alienware one to replace my G7 but I don't want another monitor without DP 2.0 or 2.1 whatever the newest one is so I will wait for next year for my upgrade ( the Gigabyte one is not an option because its flat ) I had 2 flat 32" monitors before the G7 and sometimes I felt like they were too big while with the curve I don't have that problem
We don't really know a lot about the Samsung G80SD and it's releasing later than all of the other QD-OLED's so perhaps it will launch with a curve and DP2.1
Hi Matt, how is your experience with HDMI and DP cables? such as material quality, bandwidth performance, since some of the side problems like game crashing and some flickering from the cheap cable that came with the old monitors have being resolve with a new cable from my new HDMI 2.1 cable and DP 2.0. planing to buy in the next months a 32" 4K 120 IPS or save more and buy an OLED before year end.
I tend to always buy more premium cables to avoid any potential issue but the reality is as long as they meet the standard then you should be fine. I've had some minor issues with HDMI 2.1 so I prefer DP, but the extra bandwidth offered is helpful ... that is until DP2.1 becomes widely adopted. The good news is with the new QD-OLED monitors becoming more widely available the IPS monitors will drop in price, so either way you will win.
Short answer is no...
It actually did better than I expected it would before I ran the tests.
would be nice to state that the lg monitor has a matte finish and not glossy as well. the one that has the 2 options to run in. not a fan of matte myself
(ofc only if u can control light in ur room). otherwise good video.
Agreed, I should have mentioned that ... what's interesting to me is that from the reviews of the LG monitor that I've seen it is supposed to be a fantastic display ... apparently the matte finish doesn't impact the display in a negative way ... I will have to check it out and see for myself.
Thanks for watching!
Good video ! I had the nitro but ended up catching a good deal on the white Taichi 7900xtx and I was able to get more clock out of it , I’ve also played with the speedster and red devil and I have to say the Taichi has been the winner for me at least !
Thanks ... I haven't tried the Taichi but I like the look of it. I have a Red Devil and I really like the look of that card, especially the replaceable backplate. I just purchased the argb fans for the Nitro+ to add a bit of extra bling to the card ... absolutely no performance benefit of course 😉
@@blackbirdpctech ohhh where do they make replaceable argb fans for it ? Very curious and yes I ended with with the white taichi cause it is beautiful in person and my build is white so I had to , but imo the red devil is the best overall looking rgb xtx hands down
Amazon sells them [Sapphire Gear ARGB Fan (3 in 1) for Nitro+ RX 7000 Series] ... very easy to install and they look great.
@ryrysuperman hey I have the same card and it's a beast. I'm curious what settings do you use. I'm at 2650 min 2950 max 15+power and 2714 on the memory.
@@user-lg9lm3qq8q I have mine at 3300 , min is 1000, voltage is at 1080 , the vram is at 2830 the max power is turned up all the way . My fan curve is set to 95,85,75 etc I have a good cooling case also I never have any issues with it my timespy score is around a 34k, I would suggest 3050,3100 if leaving it that way all the time but I’ve had mine this way for 6 months with no issues
As usual that cyberpunk result with ray tracing inflating the other all picture of performance.
That's why I never use it, it can give results that aren't reality.
I'd do two tests. One without it, and one with it.
Allot of people simply don't use it, and will always want native and higher fps.
That's the question. From what I can see tho it's VERY competitive rayt racing aside.
And in light rray traced titles it's doing rather well.
Honestly I'd probably pick up an xtx over a 4080 just because it does get vastly superior overall, not just in 3 titles with tech demo ray tracing on.
It does skew the results that why I provided a chart without Cyberpunk, Avatar and F1 (all RT titles) ... this is the 12 Game average that I showed in the video. I was surprised at how well the Sapphire Nitro overclocked and how competitive it was given that it is significantly cheaper. Thanks for watching!
I wonder in 10 years if 24 gb vram will be obsolete for low settings , times are getting crazier and crazier , Great vid though!
I think it’s safe to say in 10 years it will, even for low settings … technology changes so fast.
I use my 4090 only max undervolted at 115 FPS @120Hz! I really like to know how it performs vs a RX 7900 XTX stock.
The 4090 is so efficient at stock settings, what drove you to undervolt it?
@@blackbirdpctech yes true but I only play 4k up to 120Hz so more than 120 FPS are not needed and I get my performance even with undervolting. The most time I don't play raytracing games. So the 4090 consumes max 250-300 watts. Undervolting is a really nice thing 👍
@@Serandi1987 so you match your display frequency 👍
@@blackbirdpctech Always! I think it's ideal. I never chase after pure FPS and I only play singleplayer games except Tekken 8 😁🎮🙌
The benefits of a 4090 really aren't worth the money to me. Can't wait to see prices at the end of the year when new cards come out!
Hopefully it’s going to be an exciting end to the year … if battlemage is actually good at an aggressive price that could help bring down prices across the board.
3090 launched in late 2020. It’s 300$ more expensive now. I would just bite the bullet and pre order a 50xx card, maybe 2. One for resale and for use. Instead of hating on NVIDIA, I would be hating on the Chinese government for causing this supply problem. 1600$ for a 4090 FE was expensive but not a crazy mark up from the 3090 msrp at launch. This shortage is more to blame than anything else.
you can get more performance if you use aqua extreme bios (552W) and better if you watercooled it, however that will cost another money..
I always get uneasy flashing the bios from another card, but watercooling it for sure … might tackle that next.
Great video mate!
Thanks!
Good video. I want to like AMD.. But a friend just got a new 7800xt and we spent a couple of hours trying to get it to work properly (we DDU'ed the drivers and did a fresh install twice and then tried slightly older drivers). We couldn't create a custom resolution and refresh rate and there was serious sudden lag in games around 2% of the time. (He has 64gb of system memory with a 5800x3d). We watched multiple youtube trouble shooting guides on AMD settings and we couldn't get it to work properly. I lent him my 3080 10gb. DDU'ed the drivers, installed new Nvidia drivers and with-in 5 minutes we had a custom resolution and refresh rate created and zero lag in games. He returned the 7800xt and got a 4070ti Super. It works PERFECT just like the 3080 did. What am I supposed to say? What is my friend who is a tech novice supposed to think? I am not a fan boy at all. I like AMD cpu's, I just wish their video cards were on par.
When you have a bad experience with any tech it will clearly impact your opinion of the brand and their products, so I can appreciate your perspective ... I would have a similar opinion in the same situation. Fortunately I've had a good experience with the 7000 series. I use both Nvidia and AMD GPU's on a daily basis and I've had minor issues with drivers from both companies but in general I would give an advantage to AMD for their software and an advantage to Nvidia for their driver compatibility.
now put that 7900xtx against a asus rog 4090 or any partner card at stock :). comparing a partner card against base nvidia cards is not a fair comparison imo
It was never intended to be “fair” given that the 7900 XTX is overclocked and the 4090 isn’t. That said, the Founder’s Edition card is no slouch when it comes to performance, and don’t forget that partner model 4090’s are more expensive, so the value story for the 4090 would only get worse with partner model cards.
I choose the 7900 xtx any day, I bought mine brand new for 900.
Great card at a great price 😉
sadge that amd wont make any top end gpus to compete nvidia since they cousins and they prob got a deal for that :(
It definitely sucks but the real reason is that AMD plans to use their next gen top silicon for professional AI cards.
Not bad for amd when you consider the 7900xtx is like 900usd and the 4090 is 2000usd. HELL for what you save you can build the rest of the computer lol.
That’s what I thought when I looked at the results, the 7900 XTX actually did remarkably well!
Anyway I can the call of duty results only for 7900 xtx(stock & OC )vs 4090?
Unfortunately I didn’t test this 7900 xtx at stock settings for this video … I tested it in an earlier video at stock, but that was with much earlier drivers. Is there something specific you were interested in?
@@blackbirdpctechI play mostly call of duty, I just wanted to know if 7900xtx is a better pick than 4080/4080s as the price difference is very less now.
@@PrrOPHET-no6qeI have videos comparing the 7900xtx with a 4080 and with a 4080 Super … they both have COD MW3 benchmarks … check them out.
Was Cyberpunk tested with frame gen on for the 4090?
Yes, the RT settings turn it on by default. As noted on the chart, frame gen is not available for AMD cards in Cyberpunk. The reverse is true in Avatar where the 7900 XTX used FSR 3 with frame gen and the 4090 used DLSS without frame gen. This is also why I provided an average performance summary without those two games in addition to the full suite.
@@blackbirdpctech Ok I see , slightly different way of testing , but good video none the less 😀
Thanks, I try to test in a way that reflects how people are likely to play most games … in single player titles like Cyberpunk and Avatar there is really no downside to using frame gen because the increase in system latency doesn’t impact the game experience.
@@blackbirdpctech I agree , I would definitely use it if I played Avatar , I'm actually waiting for FSR 3 FG to be added to Cyberpunk so I can replay it on my 7900XTX , I messed around with AFMF and although it wasn't bad full implementation will be even better
I really don’t like it when Nvidia and AMD sponsor titles and block each others tech … it’s not good for consumers.
does the 7900 xtx have full bandwidth of the display port 2.1 or no i thought they had not.
its a shame that nvidia went for display 2.1 on a card that cost this much
Great question ... I assumed it did ... will have to do some research to find the right answer.
Isn’t the tiachi the best model? Am kinda confused
I’ve never heard anyone say that … the white variant is popular for white builds but the Sapphire Nitro+ is widely known as the top 7900 XTX.
@blackbirdpctech 7900xtx Taichi has its power limit completely unlocked, so has more potential.
@@streetssss good to know, will have to test one and see what it can do.
Let's do XTX OC'd vs 4080s OC'd...
That would be an interesting battle
maybe im not remembering the usual performance of the 4090 correctly, but these numbers seem kinda low for a 4090?
I am confident in the quality of the data but if there is something specific then I can certainly look into it.
There's definitely something odd going on here. Usually a stock 7900XTX beats a 4090 in COD too, but here it's pretty much equal to a 4090 whilst overclocked 🤔
@markjacobs1086 it’s equal at 4K and wins by ~15% at 1080P … these are all at ultra game settings. One thing to be careful of is comparing data at different game settings. Most professional COD players turn the settings down, which helps the 7900 XTX. If there is something specific you would like me to look at let me know but it’s obviously difficult to respond to someone’s expectations of what they believe the performance should be.
Could you fly to the moon on fart propulsion eat lots of meat and beans then light the fart my farts, I believe would send me to Mars
You lost me at the first fart 😉
Chinese government is so annoying. The average American consumer can’t even enjoy a 4090 for msrp due to their policies lol. Why are we suffering for their decisions 😩
They see AI as a way to compete militarily with the US so unfortunately that impacts 4090 availability … even after the state department ban, the 4090D is still impacting the number of 4090’s available globally.
Well i got both and im stayin for my own pc with the 7900 xtx and gave the 4090 to my girlfriend 😂
That is one hell of an awesome gift to give your girlfriend … hopefully she appreciates it 😉
@@blackbirdpctech yeah of corse, she never played a game before but now were playin together at the same desk in the same room its awesome to show her everything and stuff i have to say 😊
Living the dream!
Something feels off with your Avatar results, this game have RT always on and Nvidia cards are considerably faster, did you use frame gen on xtx?
Yes, Avatar only allows frame gen with fsr3, as noted on the chart. Cyberpunk only allows frame gen with dlss, as noted on that chart. I test both titles with RT and frame gen on which will favor each card. In that way they tend to balance each other out when averaged with all other games.
@@blackbirdpctech 4090 can also use fsr3, but comparing fg numbers vs non fg doesn't seem right
I agree that Nvidia cards can use fsr however it’s not something I would ever do because dlss offers better quality. I think it’s reasonable to test these two games in this way because it shows the real user experience … I don’t really like it when manufacturers sponsor titles and block competitor features but it’s real. I find it strange that you didn’t seem to have an issue with Cyberpunk 2077 given that it was tested the same way. That said I did show an average gaming performance chart in the video without both of these titles.
@@blackbirdpctech Real user experience would be that both amd and nvidia users have access to fg in avatar, second part of my previous comment show that I do have issue with comparing apples to oranges - fg numbers vs non fg.
That is NOT a valid user experience because Nvidia GPU owners don't use FSR3 for upscaling (regardless of whether it's available to them), they use DLSS, which is objectively a superior upscaling technology. So it's extremely unlikely that a 4090 owner would run Avatar with FSR3 turned on simply to get access to frame generation. I appreciate that you have an issue, but what I don't understand is why you are focused on Avatar and not Cyberpunk, and also why you chose to ignore the average performance chart without these titles. My objective is to be as unbiased in my assessment as possible. You are obviously welcome to disagree but by only focusing on a title that benefits AMD it comes across that you may be biased towards Nvidia.
no ive never wondered that
Thanks for watching and letting everyone know 😉
For a rocket scientist, you are not that smart if you even consider these cards as competitors.
1- AMD clearly said that the 7900xtx competes with the 4080.
2- Ignoring the point above, you have no reason to complain about power consumption.
3- 7900xtx can be found way below their MSRP meanwhile the 4090 is rarely found at MSRP.
4- Ignoring the anticonsumer practices from Ngreedia.
5- you just lost a subscriber, since I can't take your biased reviews seriously.
It's interesting to me that people will claim bias when I don’t tell them what they want to hear. I start my video by stating "have you ever wondered if it’s possible to overclock a 7900 XTX to compete with an RTX 4090?" ... that is the context for this video. I already did a direct comparison between the 7900 XTX and 4080 and in fact, a subscriber asked me to compare an overclocked 7900 XTX against a 4090 in the comments to that video and I thought it would be interesting to investigate.
In my recommendations I stated the following: "What you may not have expected is that the highly overclocked 7900 XTX was able to win 5 rounds and draw 2, a truly impressive result even against a 4090 at default settings" AND "... if you convert that into gaming efficiency or FPS/$ at 4K, then the 7900 XTX provides a knockout blow by offering significantly more value than the 4090." How is that bias?
If anything the bias would be in favor of the 7900 XTX because I didn't overclock the 4090. Regardless, it's clear that you are the one with a bias and although it's disappointing to see you unsubscribe, I think it's for the best ... you clearly want to see content that supports your own internal bias against Nvidia and that's not going to happen on my channel. I will always let the data drive my recommendations so that I can deliver unbiased content.
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To be honest I was expecting the 4090 to win by a larger margin so I think the 7900 XTX did well ... of course I may have gotten lucky with the silicon lottery.
not fair on the 4090 either considering ur gimping it with the trash founders edtion cooler
That’s an interesting perspective, you think it’s unfair to test a Founder’s Edition card that actually has a very effective cooler, but you don’t have an issue that a 4090 is at least $600 more expensive?