METALLICA's Most Confusing Solo Section DECODED! (Fight Fire w/Fire)

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @jajus1485
    @jajus1485 3 роки тому +177

    show us your poopy eyes man. i love the poopy eyes

    • @v.c1134
      @v.c1134 3 роки тому +10

      He looks scary without them 😔

    • @evans3234
      @evans3234 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah what is up with his eyes I’m very confused

    • @TheYellingIdiot
      @TheYellingIdiot 3 роки тому +1

      @@evans3234 Contacts

    • @DJ-zq2pb
      @DJ-zq2pb 3 роки тому +4

      The blue contacts are upsetting. Weird, he seems like a genuine dude.

    • @elixrreulle8110
      @elixrreulle8110 3 роки тому +1

      p o o p y e y e s

  • @araso9859
    @araso9859 3 роки тому +159

    James needs to make a Dvd of just showing how to play these sections which we are still debating over 35 years later.

  • @DwayneRidgwayOfficial
    @DwayneRidgwayOfficial 3 роки тому +173

    As a bass player, being able to see the rhythm guitar broken down like this is super useful. Cliff Burton played a slight variation as expected, but overall it's way easier to understand the song as a whole like this. Thank you!

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 3 роки тому +2

      He did that a lot.

    • @corporalclegg914
      @corporalclegg914 3 роки тому +2

      I agree, though I began as a rhythm guitarists (I could never shred like Hammett...probably why I ended up on bass) & Cliff is a hero. I don’t play metal out live anymore, but still go over the old thrash - Justice Metallica at home. I have 2 Ricks & could convert the 4003 to his modded model. my ‘77 fireglo 4001 is too vintage to do so. plz let me know if you’ve any tips or tricks on how to go about that, if you’ve done so or have seen it done. Burton’s bass licks are something special & having his type or gear would be super cool.

  • @mariovomhof2775
    @mariovomhof2775 3 роки тому +69

    This song is so underrated in a way. Intro is masterpiece, Riff is fire, Vocals are aggressive and awesome and the harmony is confusing but beautiful.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 3 роки тому +6

      It was always one of my favs in the album. Escape is also another I really like but doesn't get any love. Those 2 and and title track are my favourite songs in the album

    • @lol-pi1rt
      @lol-pi1rt 3 роки тому +2

      @@Walamonga1313 escape sounds great, but it was a radio friendly song that metllica was forced to write in the studio

  • @SammyWarmHands
    @SammyWarmHands 3 роки тому +27

    The riffs behind the solos are super underrated, especially on RTL

    • @Cake_Doge
      @Cake_Doge 3 роки тому +1

      yeah, the bassline under the slower solo is pretty groovy and the bassline under the faster later part of the solo is super fast and insane

    • @Kriegter
      @Kriegter Рік тому

      Title track one is so good

  • @RobDogzInc
    @RobDogzInc 3 роки тому +13

    I really enjoy these videos where you break down Metallica songs. Please keep them coming! Getting this song up to tempo is tough for me. But I have only been playing for 11 month and one day I will learn to play every Metallica song from their first 5 albums. Thanks for the great video as always!

  • @MegadethFan9000
    @MegadethFan9000 3 роки тому +74

    Please one day do "25 Rudolf Schenker Guitar Techniques."

    • @angadgianirogers1844
      @angadgianirogers1844 3 роки тому +15

      Also Michael Schenker

    • @gabrielmorton8054
      @gabrielmorton8054 3 роки тому +8

      How about Michael

    • @miguelliberte
      @miguelliberte 3 роки тому +5

      I didn't know R.Schenker has techniques to talk about. He's just a normal powerchord rythm player, nothing special so far i can see. And according to Michael Schenker his brother can't really play guitar. I think R. Schenker can just be lucky to play (and played) with great musicians.

    • @guilhermerafael7838
      @guilhermerafael7838 3 роки тому +4

      @@miguelliberte Nobody builds a 50-year career by just being lucky. Rudolph is a good composer despite not having much technical ability. But there's no question Michael is 1000x the better player

    • @Matt.McAllister
      @Matt.McAllister 3 роки тому +4

      His greatest technique is finding other better guitarists

  • @mazklassa9338
    @mazklassa9338 3 роки тому +4

    This has been like an itch I could not scratch for hours at a time trying to figure this out. Excellent homework!!! 10/10 A+++

  • @waifumon1552
    @waifumon1552 3 роки тому +12

    I literally was like "wow that sounds like thunderkiss" and you stole the words out of my brain

  • @AlexOnThePianoD
    @AlexOnThePianoD 3 роки тому +5

    This is so useful for the lengths of the sections! I play bass and I tend to come in 1 bar early when changing between the notes but knowing it’s 9 for the start is really helpful. Thank you! :)

  • @LukeJ4ckson
    @LukeJ4ckson 3 роки тому +29

    Man youtube's been making people re-upload stuff all over the place. Sorry, you guys have to deal with that.

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  3 роки тому +9

      This was my fault. I moved some things around to take a cool screen shot for the thumbnail and forgot to put it back before my final bounce, so the first version had a weird error in it.

  • @neighbourhoodmusician
    @neighbourhoodmusician 3 роки тому +1

    Your lessons are always so great. I love the focus on the feel of the beat and where the guitar falls into it.

  • @almond42069
    @almond42069 3 роки тому +4

    All the energy is coming from the shirt holy it's beautiful

  • @kcmet79
    @kcmet79 11 місяців тому

    Your initial FFWF vid where you slow down the verses n choruses n play em over a street beat was one of my faves (for years n years i knew i was mistakenly hearing down as up and up as down); and this vid is great for the same reasons, wtg!!!
    Always love your vids man, aside from being a super talented/versatile guitarist, your content is always relevant and insightful.

  • @deftonedigga
    @deftonedigga 2 роки тому +2

    Dude. I thought it was just me!!! Thank you soo much. This and metal militia have always felt wonky. Just got to start slow and relearn it. Thank you again fella. Legend.

  • @chafdawg2000
    @chafdawg2000 2 роки тому

    This has tripped me up for so long thank you so much!!

  • @DAEMONOofficial
    @DAEMONOofficial 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve been looking for this rhythm everywhere on UA-cam for a while. One of my favorites from Metallica. Thanks for the upload

  • @Cake_Doge
    @Cake_Doge 3 роки тому +23

    It has been also very confusing for me as a bass player when playing. I don't know know when it will shift to lower notes and most of the time I shift earlier or later. One other detail for you is that Lars hits the crash cymbal (if I used the right word for it) when they shift notes but still it is confusing for me maybe because 9-5-2-2 bar ratio is a bit complicated for my subconscious brain to process. Lars also plays different to hint the rythm guys there is some change going on in other songs as well but sometimes there are unnecessary fills as expected, that confuses me.

  • @rodbelding9523
    @rodbelding9523 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for this. My entire life I could never figure this out, it was always so weird to me but you broke it down well.

  • @kylebass6652
    @kylebass6652 3 роки тому +11

    I think I speak for the Internet when I say "hurry up with that part 2 lad" 😂

  • @domingojmh
    @domingojmh 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks. Really helps. I was always confused when trying to play it.

  • @instaman34
    @instaman34 3 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for this video..

  • @ricksanchezito8972
    @ricksanchezito8972 3 роки тому +1

    I thought you deleted this video. Glad you upload it.

  • @The_JustJoshing
    @The_JustJoshing 3 роки тому +39

    Your eyes look different lol

    • @d36class
      @d36class 3 роки тому +3

      Right? Are they blue?

    • @jajus1485
      @jajus1485 3 роки тому +2

      hes using blue lenses

    • @MitchellOrd
      @MitchellOrd 3 роки тому +3

      He has blue contact lenses he wears sometimes

    • @Scriptadiaboly
      @Scriptadiaboly 3 роки тому +5

      Little bit of creepyness

    • @LalK2K23
      @LalK2K23 3 роки тому

      Mascara?

  • @averagehooman3792
    @averagehooman3792 3 роки тому +1

    I was just learning the harmony section and then your video came out and I learnt more about the song (sorry for my English)

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 3 роки тому +26

    Metallica rhythm> solo sections
    Hetfield> Hammett

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 3 роки тому +2

      I always pay attention to the rhythm behind the solos, like on Ride The Lightning.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 3 роки тому +1

      @@prometheustv6558 JH is a better soloist as well, on the odd occasion that he takes one, as in Master of Puppets title track "interlude" section. He's got a good ear. Growing up with a seriously musical family must have helped - I believe his mother was an Opera singer of some sort.

    • @keerthichandrac7364
      @keerthichandrac7364 3 роки тому +4

      Kirk Hammett rhythms are pretty good as well like Damage Inc break down, creeping death break down, Mater of Puppets riff, Battery breakdown, fade to black bridge, enter sand man and many groovy riffs from load and reload era

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 3 роки тому

      @@keerthichandrac7364 Aren't those written by James tho??

    • @keerthichandrac7364
      @keerthichandrac7364 3 роки тому

      @@mattgilbert7347 they are written by hammett. In Metallica you get writing credit for a song only if you write the dominant riff in the song and hammet is credited before james in songs like master of puppets . Its pretty unfortunate because some solos in Metallica just take the song to another level and most of them are written by hammett.
      Any way here is the list of riffs not written by James Hetfield
      ua-cam.com/video/dFt6Q44B4LI/v-deo.html

  • @noah0454
    @noah0454 8 днів тому

    Inspirational video

  • @yeetfeet1878
    @yeetfeet1878 3 роки тому +4

    Congrats on you getting to use your V. I play drums and you are an inspiration for me how kind you are and how you better yourself at your instrument and teaching yourself new songs. I am only 12 but am a metalhead and you are a big part of that. Thank you for pushing me to get better at the drums. Fight fire with fire is no easy task on drum either 😂.

    • @maxdurk4624
      @maxdurk4624 3 роки тому +1

      I would recommend making sure your hi-hat and ride are at a comfortable height, I recently did this and it totally changed my ability to play speed metal beats. Or you can do the cheat beat and only play the hi-hat/ride hand with the bass drum so your hands are alternating. There is no shame in doing that, for the record, most metal drummers play it that way.

    • @yeetfeet1878
      @yeetfeet1878 3 роки тому

      Thank you that just brought a whole new light to metal drumming.

  • @kevinphillips2021
    @kevinphillips2021 3 роки тому +2

    At 3:25 I put it at 1.5 speed for it to be roughly as fast as it is on the album.

  • @kjl3080
    @kjl3080 3 роки тому

    I love how james is essentially playing a thrash drum beat on his guitar :D

  • @w5527
    @w5527 3 роки тому +1

    This is actually what I’ve been hearing. I guess it’s because I listen to guitar low ends and bass parts (cause I’m a bass guitarist). I’m glad to see it broken down though. The isolated bass track helped me get to the rhythm for me, even if it isn’t 1:1

  • @MrFritzinger
    @MrFritzinger 3 роки тому +1

    2:05 Watching you play the 3-and with a downstroke and the 4 with an upstroke is driving me crazy

  • @AndDeathForAll82
    @AndDeathForAll82 3 роки тому +7

    Can you do one for the solo section rhythm for “The Frayed Ends of Santity”?

  • @stevenbahena5956
    @stevenbahena5956 3 роки тому +2

    I actually thought this rhythm part was easy to play to be honest. It's my favorite riff of the song because it's so fun to play!

  • @justgreat3292
    @justgreat3292 3 роки тому +1

    and here I am playing it almost correct for I don't know how long except that I played the last two bars as 1 bar F# and 1 bar F instead of 2 bars F#.
    That will be fun getting used to playing it the correct way.

  • @Izzy-fh8sr
    @Izzy-fh8sr 3 роки тому +1

    We need a deep dive breakdown for the harmony section!

  • @Walamonga1313
    @Walamonga1313 3 роки тому +4

    Metallica is one of those few bands where the rhythm is harder thsn the lead guitar. Frayed Ends of Sanity is kinda like this too, but Fire is by far the most confusing

  • @AngelMartinez-qs3cf
    @AngelMartinez-qs3cf 3 роки тому +2

    Hey great video as usual! Great Stuff! What year is that Flying V? Is that a Flying V '70s Model?

  • @SSSoM3
    @SSSoM3 3 роки тому

    Names video "Most Consufing Solo Section Decoded" , proceeds to play the rhytm part

  • @ron1106
    @ron1106 3 роки тому

    ヌンチャクシスター on your T-shirt! Cool.

  • @TheBatrachian
    @TheBatrachian 2 роки тому

    The only reason Metallica's Rasmussen era stuff eludes so many musicians as far as timing goes boils down to one thing they're not thinking about, and this kind of thing is apparent on Lightning, Puppets and Justice....THE METER SHIFT!!!

  • @urmomsmiddletoe3807
    @urmomsmiddletoe3807 3 роки тому

    Hey bro I friggin love you

  • @keyable
    @keyable 3 роки тому +1

    Great! pls do more Metallica Rhythm guitar breakdown. For example the Rhythm guitar behind Leper messiah

  • @billybanana2006
    @billybanana2006 3 роки тому

    Why is this in my notification I'm not even subscribed

  • @johnp82
    @johnp82 9 місяців тому

    Not to mention the snare drum seeming like it's on beat 1 but it's actually on beat 2.

  • @kaustubhbajpai12
    @kaustubhbajpai12 3 роки тому +9

    Why did you delete it the first time lol
    I saved the video to watch later and didn't found it , then I checked your channel it was deleted xD

    • @TheArtofGuitar
      @TheArtofGuitar  3 роки тому +3

      Had to reload because I messed up a part in editing. Good rule: ALWAYS watch the entire video before uploading. :)

  • @hangman960
    @hangman960 3 роки тому

    i really enjoy your videos

  • @emanuelburwick3971
    @emanuelburwick3971 3 роки тому +1

    You should make a video playing some of the harder king crimson riffs

  • @RobertLandrum13
    @RobertLandrum13 3 роки тому

    Want a really crazy rhythm riff to breakdown? The riff after the intro section to Future Breed Machine by Meshuggah. It's 2 chords but the rhythm, strumming and palm muting makes it so so hard.

  • @cobain_92
    @cobain_92 3 роки тому +5

    The Frayed Ends Of Sanity solo section always confused me. Maybe a video about that one?

    • @nhoodfan
      @nhoodfan 3 роки тому

      It took me a while to figure out, if you have a good ear, the rough mix doesn't have the solo over it, so it's easier to hear.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 3 роки тому

      That one's definitely weird too, but not as hard to get around. I think someone on youtube did a tutorial for the rhythm under the solo. Otherwise try Songsterr maybe

  • @morturiom9651
    @morturiom9651 3 роки тому

    that is one cool guitar

  • @irushforth
    @irushforth 2 роки тому

    Weirdly, whilst much of Fight Fire With Fire makes more sense if you slow it right down (the verse & bridge riffs, as some of your other videos demonstrate), this solo-backing riff is easier to make sense of if you quadruple the speed!
    By which I mean: the riff consists of a repeated chug that is based on Ex9, then Ax3, then Gx2 and finally F#x2. (Each chug lasting two quarter-beats, or half a bar.) If you replace each of those chugs with a single note of the same pitch, and play them as an eighth-note (quaver), then the structure of the riff becomes apparent like a Magic Eye picture coming into view for the first time!
    i.e. Try playing the following as a sequence of eighth-notes:
    *E* E E *E* E E *E* E E *A* A A *G* G *F#* F#
    and repeat
    (I would suggest playing the notes highlighted in bold more open, with the rest of the notes palm-muted, to emphasise the rhythmic structure even further.)

    • @irushforth
      @irushforth 2 роки тому

      I would humbly add that it seems more intuitive to me to count the chugs in the way that I've indicated in bold in my previous comment. Count three chugs on E, counts another three E chugs, then another three E chugs, then count three chugs on A, then two chugs on G and finally two chugs on F# - and repeat the whole thing. i.e.:
      Ba-da-da Ba-da-da Ba-da-da
      Ba-da-da
      Ba-da
      Ba-da
      Ba-da-da Ba-da-da Ba-da-da
      Ba-da-da
      Ba-da
      Ba-da
      (Rather than counting four E chugs then five more E chugs, three A chugs etc, as you suggest.)
      I hope that makes sense?! I might try and do a UA-cam video of my speeded up version (if my guitar skills are up to it!), to demonstrate what I'm getting at.

  • @matheusw.1264
    @matheusw.1264 3 роки тому

    boy that Gibson is soooo pretty

  • @michaelcoriglianol7197
    @michaelcoriglianol7197 3 роки тому

    That is a sweet V

  • @danielehartmann2787
    @danielehartmann2787 3 роки тому

    This is exactly what they meant in some interview WAY back ago, when they told they have no clue of time signatures and whatsoever. They just done what FELT good to them. Fuck all music theory, just play and record the stuff which moves you. It's totally interesting. And super off for players to cover it. :D

  • @TXRager
    @TXRager 3 роки тому +1

    Sounds like annihilator. Something Jeff Waters would lay down.

  • @Yanthungbemo
    @Yanthungbemo 3 роки тому +2

    I always struggle to keep time with drum patterns where the snare is on the upbeat like on this section. I start following the snare as the down after a bar or two. Help!

  • @wrenchhammer5106
    @wrenchhammer5106 3 роки тому

    Not to take anything away from Kirk but some of my all time favorite riffs are James' riffs underneath the solos.

  • @masteryoda6988
    @masteryoda6988 3 роки тому

    For a person who plays guitar,this is a scary song.

  • @skechytoothpick8946
    @skechytoothpick8946 3 роки тому +2

    Can you do something like this for the panama intro too? It feels so weird to listen to, because of the drums

  • @juntin810
    @juntin810 3 роки тому +1

    blame it on lars, he made the whole thing confusing, lol!

    • @DonCarnage42
      @DonCarnage42 3 роки тому

      By being confused (and probably drunk), and having the timing problems he always had, he accidentally flipped the beat during a taped basement rehearsal. Thus was born the offset riff, that has confused teen headbangers for decades.

  • @vikthorbrock
    @vikthorbrock 2 роки тому

    I had also questions about this, and then, I had figured it out that it's 9-3-2-2. Very weird

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd Рік тому +1

    Wait... what's going on with *his EYES* in this vid !!? :O
    some would say (and, in fact, have *already said* "contacts"), but, it should be clear to everyone that he isn't the type of guy to do that AT ALL !! ..
    Like... what? :O
    .

  • @hetfieldwannabe8176
    @hetfieldwannabe8176 3 роки тому +1

    The rhythm section between the main solo and the harmony solo is so confusing, I still only hear one E before the F#, G power chords. The way I make the riff sound like the record is by controlling the palm mutes of those chords. I just cant hear the 2 open Es, sounds too jumpy

  • @TarnTarn-zv6cp
    @TarnTarn-zv6cp 3 роки тому +1

    For some reason you tube unsubbed me from your channel, well screw them im back lol

  • @im.Dzhokhar.Dudayev
    @im.Dzhokhar.Dudayev 2 роки тому

    👍

  • @GabrielWithoutWings
    @GabrielWithoutWings 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do a video on the spider chord riff in Ride the Lightning? I know how Dave said he played it but the album doesn't sound like straight clean power chords (a couple sound like stacked bar chords)

  • @burieddreamer
    @burieddreamer 3 роки тому

    The most confusing solo section is at the very end of For Whom the Bell Tolls.

  • @ScratchdHelp
    @ScratchdHelp Рік тому

    for some reason i always hear it like this, i always heard blackened the right way also...

  • @Dylanm94
    @Dylanm94 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man, I saw your comment on an old Khabib video. How you feel about that win eh. ;)

  • @dupawolowaish
    @dupawolowaish 3 роки тому

    Cool

  • @mnmmnmmmn
    @mnmmnmmmn 3 роки тому +1

    I get confused with the Battery riff too

  • @pedrov.5824
    @pedrov.5824 3 роки тому +1

    Wait, how did his eyes became blue

  • @jameshetfieldtm8887
    @jameshetfieldtm8887 3 роки тому +1

    Flying V? Metallica?? Yay~!

  • @prometheustv6558
    @prometheustv6558 3 роки тому +12

    That rhythm is just so weird, it’s probably a good thing that they don’t play it live.

  • @xxFABRI56xx
    @xxFABRI56xx 3 роки тому +1

    Make a lesson of the final part of Kirk's solo! It's a shreddy part that seems impossible to know what Kirk did

    • @GordonHeaney
      @GordonHeaney 3 роки тому

      None of Kirk's solos are difficult

  • @andresardon2286
    @andresardon2286 3 роки тому

    Can you some day make an explanation For the verse riff of moth into flame? That IS a really confusing one.

  • @elnico135
    @elnico135 3 роки тому +4

    Have you bought new eyes from the deep web?

  • @forbiddenfursona
    @forbiddenfursona 3 роки тому +1

    question:
    doesn't the solo riff and the harmony riff switch between 6/4 and 4/4 time?

  • @BigFatCaulk
    @BigFatCaulk 3 роки тому

    the main riff is so much fun it’s so simple and it’s definitely given me ideas for riffs and shit

  • @RobbieFitzgerald
    @RobbieFitzgerald 3 роки тому +1

    After watching this and then a live video, it seems Rob just plays the same thing so you probably could've just slowed down a live version.

  • @benearhart1224
    @benearhart1224 3 роки тому

    man for whatever reason I have a hard time with that rhythm. I keep trying to force it into a regular gallop.
    Its funny how you can feel like you've got some part of guitar playing down pat and then you go to play somebody else's stuff and it's about 10x harder to play than you imagined.
    To be clear: the change that you are teaching here I find simple. You just have to start the F# on the upstroke.
    But the whole/4 quarters rhythm eats my lunch. I need to work on my alternate picking on the E string. I cut my teeth on Metallica songs so I down pick my rhythm hard. And, when I'm not following Metallica style, I tend more towards Dime's "loose sluggage". Neither of these techniques are good setups for smooth transition to alternate picking for 16th notes.

  • @mgrocki
    @mgrocki 3 роки тому

    Definitely had a very confusing childhood trying to play this jam... veeery confusing...

  • @danielstiffel1599
    @danielstiffel1599 3 роки тому

    Nice video but that t-shirt is cool where did you get it???

  • @andrewarrodondo7457
    @andrewarrodondo7457 3 роки тому

    Sounds close if not spot on. Search for just the vocal track on UA-cam and you can hear the isolated rhythm guitar. I thought I was hearing this picking pattern on the low e.
    DU D DU
    00--0--00

  • @gagecannon7781
    @gagecannon7781 2 роки тому

    I still want to know how your eye color changed yes I watched that much of the vids

  • @joshwmusic6838
    @joshwmusic6838 3 роки тому

    Satchel from Steel Panther guitar techniques??

  • @syoung2070
    @syoung2070 3 роки тому +1

    mate can you do battery

  • @delalicanto7432
    @delalicanto7432 3 роки тому +1

    ¿Te animas a ponerte alguna remera que haga mofa de los judíos? Saludos.

  • @ExWifeHaver287
    @ExWifeHaver287 3 роки тому +3

    You should listen/react to spit out the bone I think you’d like it

  • @blastingreviews2
    @blastingreviews2 3 роки тому

    Ur eyes ? Is smt different ??

  • @phantomlord5707
    @phantomlord5707 3 роки тому

    You should do guitar covers, why not?

  • @MrDukman82
    @MrDukman82 3 роки тому

    Can I be Hammett and you Satriani?

  • @WiIIy_Wonka
    @WiIIy_Wonka 3 роки тому

    why are you using blue contact lenses? :0

  • @micahwatz1148
    @micahwatz1148 3 роки тому

    Vs are the best.

  • @alvaritococ-qf5rr
    @alvaritococ-qf5rr 3 роки тому

    what happened with your eyes?

  • @jacobcrozier
    @jacobcrozier 3 роки тому

    You look like markiplier but you're a guitarist.

  • @kevinkoltraka3121
    @kevinkoltraka3121 3 роки тому +1

    Dude, have your eyes always been green?

  • @eduardoibarra4641
    @eduardoibarra4641 3 роки тому

    The harmonies are way more complicated than that section, why dont you make a video about that? Not the rythm, the rythm its the same, but the harmonies are more complicated

  • @AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84
    @AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 3 роки тому

    1960...5 5 5!!!