Which METALLICA TAB Book is the WORST? (and which is BEST?)
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Bad tab books/sheets were probably the thing that turned off so many learner guitar players back in the day. Who knows what talent we may have lost because of it.
Part of the fun of playing is figuring out the songs for yourself. As long as the books are close you should be able to tell.
@@sole__doubtI disagree, when you are a beginner you want to know how it's played the real way, 99% of the time the real way of playing a riff is the most efficient and effortless way of doing it but as a beginner you don't know that.
When you are an intermediate guitarist figuring things out could be fun for some
@@sole__doubtyea I was gonna say that, I started electric last year and most of the things I’ve learned was by ear. A problem with my generation is wanting to look up every tab and every song instead of putting in ear training, plus some of us get distracted and spend too much time from video to video
none, someone who is talented and commited to guitar wont be deterred by a bad tab book
I hear what you are saying but these Metallica books have made many many great guitar players for sure and if it weren't for these books I don't know what I would have done,I was 13 and fell in love with Metallica and wanted to play the guitar and these books got me in the ballpark and I was able to figure things out on my own as I got better. I was 13 when I started playing and now I'm almost 52 years old and I still play Metallica shit every fucking day and i still use them as a reference because now that's all I need to figure it out 🤘🤘.
For the longest time I thought official tab books were the best way to learn songs correctly, and I've spent years hunting for tab books I had in the 80s. This series has taught me how silly that is. They do look nice in the guitar-bookshelf, but I'll go to songsterrrrrrrrr if I want to actually learn a song.
Just... make sure the songsterrr tab is right lmao. There's been a couple times when I've gone to songsterr to learn a riff only to find out that it was completely wrong haha.
Songster is good to learn the song structure. After it, you should use your eyes and ears, watch a couple of live concerts , try to find isolated guitars etc
julien menard on youtube for metallica
@@cooperlittlehales6268one time i was trying to learn two minutes to midnight off of songsterr and there was a chord on the 3rd and 20th fret 😂
@@cooperlittlehales6268 I use songster to get the gist cause I don't know music theory AT ALL but I have a really good ear so I can get it from listing to the song from there.
I didnt' know a lot of those things were mistakes when I was a kid, but the one thing that really bugged me was not transcribing Kirk's atmospheric part during the chorus of Sad But True.
Me too!
I just find in hindsight when i got tab books in the 90s and 2000s....it never ever occurred to me tab books could make mistakes lol, though granted i did notice when they would miss stuff out
I'm going to be in the minority and defend the transcribers. Back then there was no UA-cam, no isolated tracks, no digital speed control, etc. Videos on MTV were no help in seeing how a guitarist was playing, not that you would see Metallica on there anyway. These guys commisioned to do the whole album books might not have been metal guitarist and were given a short deadline to get it done to have the book out. Yes, it was frustrating but it was all we had. I'm not defending the Pornograffitti book, though. That is a mess. Sending the tab to an artist for approval would have done no good because most of them couldn't read tab to know if it was correct or not. I do know that over the years Andy Aledort revised many of his 80s GFTPM tabs to be more accurate for Guitar World, Satch Boogie and Little Guitars being 2 examples. That might make an interesting video comparing the improvements.
I mention in almost every Bad Tab video that we’re lucky today to have our tech and that they didn’t have it back then. Great points.
@@TheArtofGuitar If people want to see some horrific tab they should check out issues of GFTPM in their first year. There is also a book Heavy Metal Guitar (Volume 1) by Cherry Lane that has tabs that are laughable. Some of it isn't even close. The original Alfred Led Zeppelin books are almost indecipherable but they have since revised them. Alfred tab books usually are pretty bad though.
I've never seen anyone complain about the transcribers themselves, that would be a really shitty thing to do really.
Everyone just points out that the tab books are wrong, which is still true.
I always used to assume the people working on the tab books DID have isolated tracks. I mean, they DID have isolated tracks back then (that's generally how they were recorded). Obviously whether they were given them to work worth is a different matter but it was possible to do so. I've kinda went to assuming they didn't have them since no one in these kind of videos mentions it, but I can't really think of a good reasn why not outside of "no one cared enough".
I think about this every time I transcribe something. Being able to access isolated tracks, using Demucs when the stems aren't publicly available, slowing things down and pitch shifting and using phase cancellation with Transcribe!, being able to have instant playback with Guitar Pro, etc. and I still struggle sometimes. It's crazy to me how people did this back in the 80's, constantly rewinding their tape, not being able to slow it down without changing the pitch. Much respect to the guitarists of last century.
we need more sanctus videos!!!
NICE! Watching on my train ride home on Sydney Australia 🦘
0:23 for whom the notification bell tolls
Hal Leonard books seemed to be better than the others in my experience. Although I found errors in them too they’re usually more subtle.
Those damn tab books set me guitar playing back for years. Being a KISS fan I should have realized that most songs were easier than i expected.
Ha! Same i started playing guitar after seeing KISS in '96 and looking at tab books their songs seemed real hard with these big chord shapes n shit so i started listening to metallica and started playing their stuff cause i found it easier!
I've got the newer version of the Master of Puppets tab book like Mikes. But in the original version of the book, that I used to own, it has an error in the actual title song. At the chorus where the vocal line says "Master, Master" E5 E5, F5 F5, it has the second chord as a B5 "Master, Master" with E5 E5, B5 B5 being played.
There was also a stuff up in Orion, in the book I currently have, where near the beginning of the song where Cliff does his first bass run, at bars 57 to bar 72, it has it transcribed for the guitar instead of the for the bass.
I've also seen 2 versions of the Kill 'Em All Book where one version has Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth) transcribed for the guitar and the other, that is correct, has it transcribed for bass. I own with the bass version where a good friend has the version where it was transcribed for the guitar.
And what about the Ride The Lightning tab book. Fade to Black's chorus has a lot of major chords being played where they should just be power chords like the errors that the Master of Puppets book has.
The "Fight Fire with Fire" Intro -arranged for one guitar- is really played by James on the Ride the Lightning Tour on the early Shows. As a Metallica die hard Fan I just found out about it a few years ago. There is at least one Live Bootleg where you hear James play it on his Electric Gtr with a clean tone!
the tuning that should not be !!!!
Could you do an interview with one of the old school guys that tabbed one of these books and learn about the process they had, time limits, constraints, methods, and so on? Would be fun to hear from the source - you know, their perspective on how it all went down.
I interviewed the king of transcribing. ua-cam.com/video/s_MX6YffBBA/v-deo.htmlsi=SiO7GOeoH9-KYlXn
It's so impressive to me how Mike knows how to match his tone to the studio version's tone SO WELL every time.
One of the worst is Hells Bells I learned that by ear then I got the TAB in Guitar mag & it was all in open chords arpeggiated ??? , I went w/my version then years later they had a Angus interview & they showed him the TAB to Hells Bells & he said thats probably the correct way to play it but heres how we play it & he did it excatly like I learned it by ear. lol damn you Cherrylane
I had a GFTPM with You Shook Me All Night Long in it and it was the same thing. The intro was completely wrong! It was years later when I discovered the correct and WAY easier way to play it.
Mind blown about Ronnie! Love that riff
Thank you so much for this video!!! I struggled with these tabs forever so good to see how they were really played! Great video!!!
Dude this was great,i grew up learning from all those bokks and this was a real throwback for me,the struggle is real my friend,Thumbs Up 👍
I learned The Thing That Should Not Be in drop D and now I absolutely can not unlearn it. And to be honest, it's easier to play that way.
Same except the chorus riff sounds so much better when you play it in the correct tuning
I had the black album and justice tab books back in the day. It made me start watching James and Kirk playing on the VHS tapes I had to learn how to play their songs. Worked much better.
I remember being so confused by that Jump in the Fire tab, not yet having the experience to know that "official" tabs doesn't mean complete accuracy.
I have all the Metallca songbooks from Kill' em All to the Black Album, bought all of them back in the 90s. I think if you want the best Metallica tabs, Julien Menard's channel is the best place.
I still have ride the lightening too. Fade to black has that cluttered 2 guitar parts on one staff for the part that leads into and plays alongside the outro solo as well. But it also has a time signature chord chart along with it and never says what chords they are. The other thing fade to black has in the book is major chords instead of just power chords for the heavy sections between and after the verses.
Love this!! Have been looking forward to it. That blackened riff as per the book sounds so bad haha. Congrats on 898k Subscribers! 🤘🔥
Reload, Garage inc, st anger, death, hardwired and 72 all have books too - would love to see the series continue
As much as I love the bad tab series, the fact you’re doing vids on your guitars makes me nerd out big time 🤓
Starting to play back in '73, there was no tab, we had to learn it all by ear, trial and error. This developed the ear.
When I looked at my first few tabs and saw they were all wrong, I had to keep using the old ears. I just totally wrote tab off.
Fun to watch these critiques of tabs. Shameful that companies ripped young music students off and sent them down the wrong path.
The chromatic thing in the Unforgiven is how I have been playing it for a long time... because I owned that tab book...
I appreciate this video. And I love the V behind you. I love V’s…🤘🏽
No wonder Kill Em All is the only one I didnt give away.
I just realised, that I take these books as holy, at least I didn´t learn Master of Puppets like in the books, but One and Enter Sandman. I started playing guitar in 2019, but got the books from my guitar teacher
I had the first 5 albums tablature books. Back then i would only use them as a guide. The rest was by ear. But, certain sections of the songs I just couldn't get down and the books made things so much more complicated back then.
I love this series, I remember trying to teach myself to play from these books back in the 90s. It never occurred to me that the books were wrong.
Now my learning process is find a half-decent online tab to get a rough baseline, closely listen to the original to identify the iffy areas, the watch live footage (so easy these days) and YT covers.
That said I barely play any Metallica these days...if we're talking big 4 riffs, then Megadeth wins every time for me
I love the Donnie Darko sticker. I watched the movie yesterday
I remember being puzzled about quite a number of the ones you mention here back in the day. Especially Blackened was a bit frustrating and I was so clueless about what was really going on. x-2-x-2-x-2 ... As if the main riff of such a banger wouldn't use the open low E string. 😅 It taught me that it's always worth verifying a tab by using your own ears.
When even the official tab books are wrong, how do you know how to play it the right way with confidence?
Using your ears, old footage from live shows, DVDs etc
@@MaidanRustleback in the day, you didn't even have that...mibbe just a recording you managed to grab off the radio.
TBF, it's a lot easier to get some of the others wrong compared to Load when the latter is full of simplicity.
I had all 5 books too. Blackened opening riff threw me off so much. I assumed since it was in the book it had to be correct.
I’m curious what you think of the epic middle section of Blitzkrieg. The tab book really threw me off on how to play it.
For the black album it was always tough for me to figure out most of don't tread on me... It has the solo and I think a riff the rest is idk
I learned guitar of the riff by riff book along with the cliff em all video and the we sold our souls for rock and roll book. So I was wondering how do those compare?
Is that the SL3X DX? I can't find one in that color anywhere. I remember in an older vid of yours how that particular model of yours is great. Could you remind me of the vid where you spoke about that??
How about the missing guitar part during the chorus of "Sad But True?" It bothers me they left that out.
Funny thing on the unforgiven I remember the easy guitar tab version verse riff was more accurate than the complete tab. That's one example of how overcomplicate the transcripts are.
Because so much of the feel is truly in the hands I actually made that and justice book sound the way it supposed to.
Even though so much of that tab book is wrong when I play it sounds just fine 😅
I had the Justice tab book and the Garage Inc tab book.
I own many of these books. I learned how to play guitar from these books in the 80s. No wonder I felt like it was all wrong!!!
Why aren't tab books spiral bound, so you can leave the pages open while you play?
Hiii love the videos I think The thing that’s should not be is in c# I think Kirk says it in a interview
I would be interested in what the release dates are for these books. As in curious were released in the same order as you ranked them 🤔
what you play at 12:45 sounds like the riff from Alison Hell by Annihilator
I fought with that damn Tab book for years when I was a kid and ESPECIALLY Blackened.
I blamed it on my lack of skill before people told me that book is the worst.
I'm surprised you haven't put any EMG's in the Donnie Darko Explorer.
No mention of the OPEN E MAYOR Chords on Harvester of Sorrow's main riff?
What's weird is that I bought an AJFA tab book when I was 12 years old in 1989. I learned the entire album from that book, and I play everything pretty close to the original. I'll have to try to dog up the book. The tabs must have changed.
I love seeing my UA-cam notifications and seeing a bad tab video
Another awesome video. I'm still waiting for you to do a video on the techniques of Linkin Park and Trivium. At lease their both modern bands in terms of music output. Why focus on a band that's over 40 yrs into their career. Please Mike. I know you can do those videos because there's tons of videos of people covering both artists on UA-cam.
Can this hold true for the bass tabs as well? I’ve had all those bass books for over 20 years and now I’m questioning the authenticity. Can songster be more accurate?
Hi Mike, can you give an update on that jackson? Did you changed to schaller and changed the pickups? Thx!
Holy sh1t! The part at 14:00 I learned from the guitar mag 30+ years ago, and still played it this way! 😂
I had no idea that was wrong!
And honestly, the wrong was still aounds right to me. 😂
love the they live shirt, favourite movie of mine!!
Quick question did you ever learn Tell No Tales by TNT? Curious how you would play that song!
I absolutely agree with Blackened and TLITD. I was struggling to learn it and then it was all wrong😂😂😂
Fire t-shirt btw!
Like most people, I bought all these tab books back in the 90s. Anyone know if/when they went out of print? And if subsequent runs featured updates/corrections/variations to these original editions?
Legendary T-shirt…amazing film.
Kill Em All is pretty accurate…most riffs sound pretty close for sure. Also learned a lot from Load(s) tab book. Death Magnetic tab book was pretty solid as well. Most riffs seemed accurate 🤷🏻♂️
Those tab books almost ended my guitar playing before it began, all those wrong notes made me think I had F'd up hearing.
LOL! I have been playing The Thing That Should Not Be wrong (drop D) for decades now, and never knew it was wrong! I have all these books, and never really noticed that they were wrong, although I did notice that some of the parts were really hard to pull off (some of the ones you highlighted). Do you have recommendations for GOOD Metallica tabs?
18:35 this is not a mistake in notes, this is a mistake of string, the 8 clearly goes on the D string and they copied it wrong from the transcription notes.
There are dozens of books with this kind of mistakes.......Malmsteen's Trilogy book also has this issue of wrong strings (in some cases the standard note is correct, and the string in the tab is wrong, sometimes the standard note is wrong and the tab is correct, and sometimes BOTH are wrong)
I was just starting to play and a friend had the Puppets book, possible it made me better doing the acrobatics for TTTSNB! By the time the Black album was out, I was already learning most things by ear and would check tab when I was confused by something.
Now, you just need to look up how to play songs on youtube, ezpz!
cool shirt, man
I think the worst part is that these are from the 80s and 90s when you couldn't cross reference on the internet or something
Absolutely no surprises, but I don't have Kill 'Em All so I couldn't judge that one.
Great shirt
And the reason I think it may be on purpose is because if you look from 1985 all the way up to the 2000s those same kinds of mistakes are made over and over and over again I have everything from Incubus to Sublime to Nirvana Alice in Chains and there are mistakes everywhere
Nice
The Justice and Puppets books taught me guitar.
Explains a lot 😄
These books shat on my musical parade so many times! I would’ve burned them, but they were so f’n expensive!
So weird seeing james playing a telecaster
Whenever you go through the bad tab books, I can really feel the, "transcriber who doesn't like metal very much trying to rush through the job as fast as possible because he's probably got a week to get this done" that probably explains so much about these books. Beginners never know what a bunch of half-assed cash grabs these books probably were in most cases, they were one merchandising step up from t-shirts. At no point would any of it get fact-checked by Kirk Hammett or anybody like that. The kid who buys it has no clue, though.
Here is something interesting about that last lick in the Battery solo. Kirk Hammett said he was deeply inspired by the song ‘Sails of Charon’ by the Scorpions from their record ‘Taken by Force’ which has rows of cross headstones in a cemetery on the cover the same as Metallica’s Master of Puppets and that Battery lick you played sounds almost identical to one of the passages from Uli Roth's solo on iCharon which Kirk said inspired it. At the time, if you could play the Charon solo iit was a sign of greatness - guitarists aspired to be able to do it. Charon is also a reference to a character that is considered a psychopomp which is a spirit that carries the souls of the deceased to the afterlife.
Thought my last comment about the Blackened riff was comical, hope it didn't fall flat.
I had a guitar teacher that would say, "the authors were drunk" when talking about bad tab books... KILL 'EM ALL is best album. Fun video, Mike!
A few of these seem more like typos/printos rather than someone bungling the transcription itself, that opening riff for "Metal Militia" most of all. That 4th note is clearly A# as opposed to the printed D#. Still the 8th fret, just on the wrong string. For the most part, your points are right on, but I had noticed the individual songs tabs from the GFTPM magazine had a tendency to differ from the songbooks by the same publisher. "One" was pretty dead on in the magazine transcription but the songbook got WTF in a lot of places on the album("You turned this love to truth"??). I learned that strenuous opening figure for TLITD 99% as printed, and it sounds great with a *lot* of practice (that 12th fret harmonic is still a bugger to nail) but the excessive inclusion of major chords is poop in the birthday cake.
Did reload not have a book?
I played Blackened wrong for 20 years thanks to that book.
You should take the Load book and compare it to a Japanese version on it.
Worst tab book best album.
So i keep hearing different teachers both on UA-cam and in person say not to worry about tabs. That they should be a last resort after ear training or by watching live videos of the artist etc...in the beginning atleast. True or no?
I had those tab books back in 1989 and they traumatized me.
The AJFA tab book was the first Metallica book I had. I was convinced I was a hopeless guitar player because I couldn't get any of it to sound right. Turns out I am a hopeless guitar player, but at least now my Metallica covers sound a bit better.
I would argue that major chords don't necessarily make things "happy" sounding - the heavy part of Aqualung ("eyeing little girls with bad intent") has the riff harmonized in major chords, and Close To The Edge by Yes has a really demonic section (after the synth solo), again harmonized in major chords. Of course, that's obviously not what's happening in Master Of Puppets.
For sure, but compared to the actual sound in these instances it has a "happier" sound. Some of my favorite sad songs have plenty of major chords and vice versa.
Have you tried the 72 Seasons one, yet?
Ronnie is my favorite song on that album! Now have a better way to play!
i feel like you should make more videos about load era metallica load, reload and the originals from s&m are so unique compared to the rest of Metallica and i feel like they don't get enough love
I have the chance of buying those Metallica full band scores published by Japan music publishers, they are quite accurate indeed 😊👍
I got the reload book when i started to Play guitar.. it got me a little confused and angry at times 😂
Geussing load is best
Early folk
Dread to think how many hours of pain and frustration books like these caused many guitar students.