The shadow 2 also makes a fantastic indicator rod for short roll casts or water loads when you run into slower water. The fast action tip lets you turn over an indicator very easily and then the length helps you mend. It can also throw dries well too. Great all rounder if you are willing to change out leaders depending on the situation.
@@ryantherock7664 I actually have both. I use the 3wt for tippet down to 6x and switch over to the 2wt for tippet down to 8x. I like them for small New Zealand style indicators.
Hey Joe, have you or any of your team tested the new Redington Strike 2 10'6 3 wt yet? looking for any feedback, I like the price point but my understanding the last model lacked sensitivity, the information I have been able to obtain says the Strike 2 has improved sensitivity, I look forward to more videos, much appreciated.
This is great. I'd add a couple of more things for the T&T Contact II as an owner of one: 1 - It doesn't have alignment dots on the blanks. Not a major issue. 2 - The RECoil single foot snake guides are amazing. What I really want to see is the heads up between the Contact II, ESN and Vision's XO Graphene nymph rods.
Great review! I bought an Echo Shadow X at the beginning of the year. It is my first Euro Nymphing rod and it’s worked great with a Redington Tilt reel. I’ve caught a lot of fish with it. ✌🏼
Hi, I fish for wild Steelheads here in NZ and on our big rivers with deep pools and the river running at 33 cumecs, we use a 12 - 14 foot leader with a wool indicator. This method combines with a heavy nymph (or tungsten beads when Euro nymphing) gets to the fish, but when standing in the river up to chest deep it gives you very little leeway in bringing a fighting fish on a 9’ rod (12’ in Euro system) to a net held in the other hand. Angles in geometry were not my strong point in school and no help in landing fish when you are on your own. So we get a lot of long length releases! Cheers mate. Harera
Personally I have loved Czech nymphing the bolder reach pool on the tongariro River. I just purchased the primal contact 10/4 What a wonderful rod and a great time ⏲ on a fast deep river. Take care.
@@ashtonmakowsky9838 Hi, Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) were first introduced to New Zealand in the early 1880s. They are descended mainly from Californian steelheads - rainbow trout that migrate to sea and spend most of their lives there. However, New Zealand rainbow trout do not migrate to sea and treat the great lakes in the same manner to mature. Ova imported in 1883 by the Auckland Acclimatisation Society survived, and fry were released into local waterways. In 1892 the species was liberated in Lake Rotorua, and in 1897 in Lake Taupō. Don’t get so picky, even if that local tribes from the area of the rivers in California came to get our trout eggs to repopulate their rivers as their originals had died out. Cheers mate. Harera
Another great thing about the Shadow II which I have been using a lot this last year is the competition kit (fits the Shadow x and shadow II). This consists of a screw on fighting butt and counterweights as well as two 6 inch extensions that fit between the butt and second part of the blank, one of which has a line guide. I hope to try one of the other rods you've shown here. Cheers from Montana!
Very good point. There is some versatility available with the II that the X does not offer (or any other rod that I know of). Very good point, thank you for sharing.
Surprised you didn't include the Loomis IMX Pro E. That's the best American made mid priced Euro rod out there. I've got the 3106 (10' 6" 3 wt.) and it is fantastic. It leaves me wanting nothing else. I know you talked up the 2100 (10' 2 wt.) previously. And Loomis' Expeditor program and Expeditor replacement tip program is the one of the best in the industry as well. Break a tip section, get a new one in a week for $60. Bust up any other section and get the whole rod replaced for $150, no questions asked. Unlike Sage, where a guy will wait months for a tip section. And, this is coming from a Sage guy (20 plus Sage rods in my quiver, trout rods, saltwater rods, Spey rods, and trout Spey rods). I chose the IMX Pro E over the Sage Sense. The Sage Euro rods don't have the cool little fighting butt that the Loomis has, and I don't like where Sage has gone with their slow warranty turnaround times as of late. I haven't needed a Sage warranty repair, but that is the buzz out there on their slow warranty work. I enjoy your content. This isn't a knock toward you Joe, just my opinions.
Why not Orvis? - I own a Clearwater 10" 3wt, a Recon 10" 3wt and a Shadow X 10" 3 wt - The Orvis Clearwater is on the heavier side but the Orvis Recon is as good as the Shadow X and at similar price point. Both of them are very good rods. I have not tested the Helios 3 but I assume that may be lighter than the Recon.
If catching resident trout wasn’t enough for us westsiders, that rod selection has be wanting to take a trip to the Yak and visit you guys again. I love the online program you guys offer but wow do I want to see all these in person at one place!
I’ve got the Echo Carbon XL 10’ 3wt, coupled with a redington Tilt reel. Overall, it’s been a great rod for me getting into Euro. I’ve fished with the rod for just over a year now. I can attest to the lack of sensitivity, but that has made me focus more on seeing the takes visually which I think has made me a better euro angler. Durability has been great, and the 3wt handles bigger jig streamers no problem. I’ve landed some 20” browns on 6x so the tip is soft enough to protect fine tippet. Overall, great introductory rod, but I do plan to upgrade in the coming season to something mid/high end now that I understand the Euro game.
Great review, any chance you could do a review on the newly released T&T Zone Euro Nymph rods? They worth it or is it better to just go with the contact II?
Good idea, that's been on my "to review" list. It won't be half the rod of the Contact II. Don't get too excited. A fine choice at that price, but not a reasonable comparison. Get the Contact II if you are even considering it. You'll be so glad you did.
Do you have any videos showing the best way to land/net a trout on one of these longer more sensitive rods? My biggest concern is breaking a tip. Would you suggest using a longer handle net too?
That is a GREAT question. There are a couple of answers here. I do use a longer handled net, the Fishpond Nomad Emerger. But you also need to let your reel free spool as you reach for the fish. I have a steelhead video where I land a nice big one on a spey rod, same issue, long rod and heavy fish. I'll see if I can't dig it up but I should totally go stick some lunkers and do that vid. GREAT question!
What's a better "quiver killer", meaning a one rod do it all for trout fishing, dry flies, tight lighting, and small/micro streamers? Why not chose the R8 4100 over one of these exactly? What's a better buy for multiple presentations? Is it better to buy a euro rod and try to do other things with it or is it better to buy something like a 4100 R8 and try to do euro stuff with it? It's a tough choice.
Great question. The 10' 4 weight R8 would be a horrible Euro Rod, the tip is way too powerful for coaxing nymphs delicately along the bottom. Just doesn't work with anything smaller than a giant stonefly nymph. If I had to choose ONE fly rod, 9' 5 weight R8 for me. If on smaller water, smaller trout, the 9' 4 weight R8. Very good question!
@@redsflyshop Riffing on Ryan's point: Wouldn't a 10.5' - 3wt - fast action rod be the optimum all around rod to cover the majority of styles? From what I've learned, the rod's weight is listed by the tip's total strength and the action describes how far that weight reaches down the rod. [ Fast ⅓, Medium fast ½, Medium ⅔, Slow ¾ ] Isn't that why the Euronymphing rods tend to be longer with lighter weights, because they're looking for strength and pointing distance with a soft tip to feel contacts?
Having built and fished long rods since the 1970's I wonder why would anyone fish a long rod without a fighting butt, or for that matter build a long rod without one? For long rods they provide much needed balance for all day fishing and fighting big fish!
I purchased a sage euro rod and sage reel from you and the Spring , Can you give a quick tutorial on regards to the weights used in the reell for balance to give us a better idea of how much weight to put and why
I like my reel to balance the rod about 10 degrees above parallel with the water (give or take). I personally run the heaviest weight rotated to the back of the reel.
Another plus for the shadow x over the sense is how fast you can get the tip if you break it. I’ve broke my shadow x twice (both my fault) and had a new tip section within the work week. With sage who knows? Could be months out.
I think the reason is two fold. #1, they are light tips. Lighter tips can manipulate small flies over the bottom better, and cast much better without the weight of the fly line involved (short range leader only casting). #2, anglers that haven't handled these light rods aren't as delicate. Once you break a couple of tips....you stop breaking tips. They aren't half as resilient as many other rods. I always emphasize care so that followers/customers will take extra care. It's a delicate instrument.
I'd like to get a 10ft 4wt that can do all things. Not sure what to get. Do I go with a robust euro rod or go with a more traditional rod with a medium action. Any help? I'm a fly fisherman and like to do all aspects of fly fishing. euro, dries, hopper dropper, swing softs, and small streamers. I fish out west and fish bigger water. I'm just looking for a quiver killer. I think a 10ft 4wt is the ticket, just not sure what make and model.
I would strongly suggest a traditional rod, it will just cast, mend, and set the hook so much better on a slack line. If you're looking for a top end rod, look at the Sage R8.
Interesting that you consider the Sage Sense a more durable rod. I’ve broken mine twice! At this point Sage has had about the same time I have. I have an Echo Carbon XL as a back up and it’s been a champ.
@@redsflyshop Strangely the first break was the butt section just above the cork. I was trying to break a snag free. I don’t know why the rod would break there before the tippet. They had it for the entire summer. This last break was on the tip. It was the second time fishing with it since I got it back. Again not sure why it broke. I had landed a fish, made a couple of casts and that’s when I noticed it. (Know anyone looking for a slightly used, fully refurbished Sense? I’ll have one for sale in a couple months)
Biggest diff is that the #3 will coax and pull larger flies (stonefly nymphs, leeches, craw) along the bottom more effectively whereas the tip on the #2 tends to let the flies settle and you have to physically pull them, or lead them, whereas the #3 seems to do this work itself with a slightly stronger tip.
Great question, the Echo and Redington will be the fastest as tips are 'pre-built' and ready to plug 'n play. The Sage/Thomas and Thomas will take the longest. Cost is all about the same. Roughly $50 no matter how you spin it.
What's your thoughts on the new Syndicate Euro Rod?? I Tried One Out At A Local Fly Shop Recently Was Just Way Too Heavy For Me! I Love My T &T Contact 2. 2wr 10
@redsflyshop. I completely agree 💯. Thomas & Thomas Contact 2 Is Stellar! No Comparison To Me. Especially The 10' 2wt. Amazing Sensitivity & It Was Blown Away With What I Had Been Missing Before The T & T.
Echo Carbon XL Euro if you are talking small flies, if you are chucking big stones and salmon fly nymphs there are a bunch of 10' 5 weight options but the 10' 4 Weight Carbon XL handles small indicators really well IMO. redsflyfishing.com/products/echo-carbon-xl-euro-nymph?variant=14690273624113
I have and fish 2- Sage esn’s , 1-T and T , Moonshine Epiphany and a Diamondback Ideal nymph and love them all. Yes, even the Moonshine. But, when I’m on a serious light weighted nymph eat, there’s nothing like the sage ESN HD 10’ 2 wt rod that weighs 2.5 ounces and it’s balance swing weight with a 4.5 ounce reel is the most sensitive jig to hand rod I own. One can high stick this light weight system most of the day without too much fatigue. Thanks for an awesome video, seriously!!!!!
I have that 2100-4 ESN II here near my desk, it's as tight as a guitar string when fish bite. For small flies, ultra light rigs it is a wonderful rod. I fished that rod exclusively for a while until switching out to a bit longer T and T rod, and have been there since.
@@ashtonmakowsky9838 Hey Ashton, it’s hard to find a euro rod now days that’s crap. Just from your statement alone, I can tell you are a dumb a-s!!!!!!!
Hi I'm very desapointed You like the shamallow shadow 2. A top contains Price rod IS the guideline lpx nymph Shop this and test and Say me!! I know the response.
@@redsflyshop I tight line with it almost exclusively. But the only other rod I own is the sage sonic 4wt. I think the boron super is great. However, maybe I should add a (euro specific) rod to the mix.
@@Oldtimersguild I LOVE Winston Rods. I think if you put it next to a T and T 10' 3, you would see that there is a night and day difference in how light the tips are on the T and T. The Super 10 is a great rod for many things, but it wouldn't be fair to compare it to some of these purpose built rods.
Oh it's not, but neither is playing guitar of using other fine instruments if your goal is just to make something that sounds sort of like music. If your goal is just to catch a fish then fly fishing or a fine rod isn't required at all.
The shadow 2 also makes a fantastic indicator rod for short roll casts or water loads when you run into slower water. The fast action tip lets you turn over an indicator very easily and then the length helps you mend. It can also throw dries well too. Great all rounder if you are willing to change out leaders depending on the situation.
Do you have the 2 or 3wt?
@@ryantherock7664 I actually have both. I use the 3wt for tippet down to 6x and switch over to the 2wt for tippet down to 8x. I like them for small New Zealand style indicators.
Hey Joe, have you or any of your team tested the new Redington Strike 2 10'6 3 wt yet? looking for any feedback, I like the price point but my understanding the last model lacked sensitivity, the information I have been able to obtain says the Strike 2 has improved sensitivity, I look forward to more videos, much appreciated.
This is great.
I'd add a couple of more things for the T&T Contact II as an owner of one:
1 - It doesn't have alignment dots on the blanks. Not a major issue.
2 - The RECoil single foot snake guides are amazing.
What I really want to see is the heads up between the Contact II, ESN and Vision's XO Graphene nymph rods.
I have been fishing the t&t 10’9” 3wt and landed three steelhead on a big western river this fall
Damn! Nice work.
Great review! I bought an Echo Shadow X at the beginning of the year. It is my first Euro Nymphing rod and it’s worked great with a Redington Tilt reel. I’ve caught a lot of fish with it. ✌🏼
That is excellent. Wonderful rod, super light, just treat that tip with care and you'll be in good shape.
@@redsflyshop It sure has made it easy to transition over to the Euro style of nymphing. It's a delicate rod for sure!
that's the same setup I just purchased, looking forward to getting on the river with it
Hi, I fish for wild Steelheads here in NZ and on our big rivers with deep pools and the river running at 33 cumecs, we use a 12 - 14 foot leader with a wool indicator. This method combines with a heavy nymph (or tungsten beads when Euro nymphing) gets to the fish, but when standing in the river up to chest deep it gives you very little leeway in bringing a fighting fish on a 9’ rod (12’ in Euro system) to a net held in the other hand. Angles in geometry were not my strong point in school and no help in landing fish when you are on your own. So we get a lot of long length releases! Cheers mate. Harera
Personally I have loved Czech nymphing the bolder reach pool on the tongariro River.
I just purchased the primal contact 10/4
What a wonderful rod and a great time ⏲ on a fast deep river.
Take care.
You don't have steelhead in NZ.
@@ashtonmakowsky9838 No but the condition and size of the Rainbow trout in certain areas they give you the same fight.
@@craigbooker1503 irrelevant. No steelhead, thank you for confirming.
@@ashtonmakowsky9838 Hi, Rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss) were first introduced to New Zealand in the early 1880s. They are descended mainly from Californian steelheads - rainbow trout that migrate to sea and spend most of their lives there. However, New Zealand rainbow trout do not migrate to sea and treat the great lakes in the same manner to mature. Ova imported in 1883 by the Auckland Acclimatisation Society survived, and fry were released into local waterways. In 1892 the species was liberated in Lake Rotorua, and in 1897 in Lake Taupō. Don’t get so picky, even if that local tribes from the area of the rivers in California came to get our trout eggs to repopulate their rivers as their originals had died out. Cheers mate. Harera
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Hardy Ultralite LL's
Another great thing about the Shadow II which I have been using a lot this last year is the competition kit (fits the Shadow x and shadow II). This consists of a screw on fighting butt and counterweights as well as two 6 inch extensions that fit between the butt and second part of the blank, one of which has a line guide. I hope to try one of the other rods you've shown here. Cheers from Montana!
Very good point. There is some versatility available with the II that the X does not offer (or any other rod that I know of). Very good point, thank you for sharing.
That's cool to know, I can use my comp kit if I upgrade to the x from the 2.
Good video. I would really like to see you do a review on the TFO Drift
Surprised you didn't include the Loomis IMX Pro E. That's the best American made mid priced Euro rod out there. I've got the 3106 (10' 6" 3 wt.) and it is fantastic. It leaves me wanting nothing else. I know you talked up the 2100 (10' 2 wt.) previously. And Loomis' Expeditor program and Expeditor replacement tip program is the one of the best in the industry as well. Break a tip section, get a new one in a week for $60. Bust up any other section and get the whole rod replaced for $150, no questions asked. Unlike Sage, where a guy will wait months for a tip section.
And, this is coming from a Sage guy (20 plus Sage rods in my quiver, trout rods, saltwater rods, Spey rods, and trout Spey rods). I chose the IMX Pro E over the Sage Sense. The Sage Euro rods don't have the cool little fighting butt that the Loomis has, and I don't like where Sage has gone with their slow warranty turnaround times as of late. I haven't needed a Sage warranty repair, but that is the buzz out there on their slow warranty work. I enjoy your content. This isn't a knock toward you Joe, just my opinions.
Frankly we love that rod, but they have had essentially no production, didn’t include it as it is impossible to get.
@@redsflyshop That makes sense, thanks!
Why not Orvis? - I own a Clearwater 10" 3wt, a Recon 10" 3wt and a Shadow X 10" 3 wt - The Orvis Clearwater is on the heavier side but the Orvis Recon is as good as the Shadow X and at similar price point. Both of them are very good rods. I have not tested the Helios 3 but I assume that may be lighter than the Recon.
If catching resident trout wasn’t enough for us westsiders, that rod selection has be wanting to take a trip to the Yak and visit you guys again.
I love the online program you guys offer but wow do I want to see all these in person at one place!
Come on over! We're open every day.
I’ve got the Echo Carbon XL 10’ 3wt, coupled with a redington Tilt reel. Overall, it’s been a great rod for me getting into Euro.
I’ve fished with the rod for just over a year now. I can attest to the lack of sensitivity, but that has made me focus more on seeing the takes visually which I think has made me a better euro angler. Durability has been great, and the 3wt handles bigger jig streamers no problem. I’ve landed some 20” browns on 6x so the tip is soft enough to protect fine tippet. Overall, great introductory rod, but I do plan to upgrade in the coming season to something mid/high end now that I understand the Euro game.
Glad to see this comment! I bought the same setup as my first and I cannot wait to get it out this spring!
Great review, any chance you could do a review on the newly released T&T Zone Euro Nymph rods? They worth it or is it better to just go with the contact II?
Good idea, that's been on my "to review" list. It won't be half the rod of the Contact II. Don't get too excited. A fine choice at that price, but not a reasonable comparison. Get the Contact II if you are even considering it. You'll be so glad you did.
Do you have any videos showing the best way to land/net a trout on one of these longer more sensitive rods? My biggest concern is breaking a tip. Would you suggest using a longer handle net too?
That is a GREAT question. There are a couple of answers here. I do use a longer handled net, the Fishpond Nomad Emerger. But you also need to let your reel free spool as you reach for the fish. I have a steelhead video where I land a nice big one on a spey rod, same issue, long rod and heavy fish. I'll see if I can't dig it up but I should totally go stick some lunkers and do that vid. GREAT question!
@@redsflyshop thanks and I look forward to the video!
What's a better "quiver killer", meaning a one rod do it all for trout fishing, dry flies, tight lighting, and small/micro streamers? Why not chose the R8 4100 over one of these exactly? What's a better buy for multiple presentations? Is it better to buy a euro rod and try to do other things with it or is it better to buy something like a 4100 R8 and try to do euro stuff with it? It's a tough choice.
Great question. The 10' 4 weight R8 would be a horrible Euro Rod, the tip is way too powerful for coaxing nymphs delicately along the bottom. Just doesn't work with anything smaller than a giant stonefly nymph. If I had to choose ONE fly rod, 9' 5 weight R8 for me. If on smaller water, smaller trout, the 9' 4 weight R8. Very good question!
@@redsflyshop Riffing on Ryan's point: Wouldn't a 10.5' - 3wt - fast action rod be the optimum all around rod to cover the majority of styles? From what I've learned, the rod's weight is listed by the tip's total strength and the action describes how far that weight reaches down the rod. [ Fast ⅓, Medium fast ½, Medium ⅔, Slow ¾ ] Isn't that why the Euronymphing rods tend to be longer with lighter weights, because they're looking for strength and pointing distance with a soft tip to feel contacts?
Great info, thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks, need to shoot another for this upcoming year.
Having built and fished long rods since the 1970's I wonder why would anyone fish a long rod without a fighting butt, or for that matter build a long rod without one? For long rods they provide much needed balance for all day fishing and fighting big fish!
I purchased a sage euro rod and sage reel from you and the Spring , Can you give a quick tutorial on regards to the weights used in the reell for balance to give us a better idea of how much weight to put and why
I like my reel to balance the rod about 10 degrees above parallel with the water (give or take). I personally run the heaviest weight rotated to the back of the reel.
Echo Shadow- also can get the extension kit.
But my T&T is untouchable.
It's really tough to beat that rod. When you put them all side by side it seems like the T and T is almost undefeated. Almost!
I'm curious about the Hardy rod. Was that one considered? Or just overlooked? No big deal, just curious.
Good question, we no longer sell Hardy rods so I don't have any hands on experience there.
Another plus for the shadow x over the sense is how fast you can get the tip if you break it. I’ve broke my shadow x twice (both my fault) and had a new tip section within the work week. With sage who knows? Could be months out.
That was mentioned several times
I bought the shadow 2 frist euro nymph rod 3 wt hooked a couple big steelhead on it but didn't land them but I love it great investment
Excellent. Those are some tough customers for that little rod! Sounds like a ton of fun.
Why do tips break so often? New to Euro and was curious why it’s a good idea to get a spare tip.
I think the reason is two fold. #1, they are light tips. Lighter tips can manipulate small flies over the bottom better, and cast much better without the weight of the fly line involved (short range leader only casting). #2, anglers that haven't handled these light rods aren't as delicate. Once you break a couple of tips....you stop breaking tips. They aren't half as resilient as many other rods. I always emphasize care so that followers/customers will take extra care. It's a delicate instrument.
Great video, I’m surprised there wasn’t a Diamondback Ideal Nymph rod
Don't sell Diamondback, just rods we stock and fish. I'm sure they are a fine rod.
@@redsflyshop I’m actually a Sage ESN guy myself
What running line / head do you use with the Beulah Platinum G2 Euro rod when used for streamer / swing work?
I'd like to get a 10ft 4wt that can do all things. Not sure what to get. Do I go with a robust euro rod or go with a more traditional rod with a medium action. Any help? I'm a fly fisherman and like to do all aspects of fly fishing. euro, dries, hopper dropper, swing softs, and small streamers. I fish out west and fish bigger water. I'm just looking for a quiver killer. I think a 10ft 4wt is the ticket, just not sure what make and model.
I would strongly suggest a traditional rod, it will just cast, mend, and set the hook so much better on a slack line. If you're looking for a top end rod, look at the Sage R8.
Why no Cortland, Orvis or Moonshine rods? Do you not recommend?
Interesting that you consider the Sage Sense a more durable rod. I’ve broken mine twice! At this point Sage has had about the same time I have. I have an Echo Carbon XL as a back up and it’s been a champ.
Thanks for the post, were the breakages random in nature? How long was the turnaround on repair(s)?
@@redsflyshop Strangely the first break was the butt section just above the cork. I was trying to break a snag free. I don’t know why the rod would break there before the tippet. They had it for the entire summer. This last break was on the tip. It was the second time fishing with it since I got it back. Again not sure why it broke. I had landed a fish, made a couple of casts and that’s when I noticed it. (Know anyone looking for a slightly used, fully refurbished Sense? I’ll have one for sale in a couple months)
@@joeborgione5477 Good to know, sounds like a lemon. That's a bummer and definitely not reflective of my experience but thanks for sharing.
Hi what is the difference and pros and cons of the 3 vs 2 at T&T? I’m looking at the 10’9” but don’t know what weight to get it in.
Biggest diff is that the #3 will coax and pull larger flies (stonefly nymphs, leeches, craw) along the bottom more effectively whereas the tip on the #2 tends to let the flies settle and you have to physically pull them, or lead them, whereas the #3 seems to do this work itself with a slightly stronger tip.
I have the Shadow X in 2wt, and several other brand euro rods. The Shadow X is head and shoulders better than anything I've tried.
Could you comment on the warranties for these rods. Does differentiate them in any way.
Great question, the Echo and Redington will be the fastest as tips are 'pre-built' and ready to plug 'n play. The Sage/Thomas and Thomas will take the longest. Cost is all about the same. Roughly $50 no matter how you spin it.
Hi in your guys indicator nymphing leader (thingamaleader) what pound maxima chameleon did you use
I like 20# Max for the butt on mind. We use to sell those, but couldn't keep up with demand tying all those little bobber stops haha.
What's your thoughts on the new Syndicate Euro Rod?? I Tried One Out At A Local Fly Shop Recently Was Just Way Too Heavy For Me! I Love My T &T Contact 2. 2wr 10
Oh I think the T and T is in a league of its own.
@redsflyshop. I completely agree 💯. Thomas & Thomas Contact 2 Is Stellar! No Comparison To Me. Especially The 10' 2wt. Amazing Sensitivity & It Was Blown Away With What I Had Been Missing Before The T & T.
Hi sir, so which one has the stiffest tip and action please?
Beulah 10'8" 3 weight.
What is the best value for money nymphing rod for double nymph rigs with an indicator?
Echo Carbon XL Euro if you are talking small flies, if you are chucking big stones and salmon fly nymphs there are a bunch of 10' 5 weight options but the 10' 4 Weight Carbon XL handles small indicators really well IMO. redsflyfishing.com/products/echo-carbon-xl-euro-nymph?variant=14690273624113
Most of my Echo rods have singe rings, my only complaint.
I have and fish 2- Sage esn’s , 1-T and T , Moonshine Epiphany and a Diamondback Ideal nymph and love them all. Yes, even the Moonshine. But, when I’m on a serious light weighted nymph eat, there’s nothing like the sage ESN HD 10’ 2 wt rod that weighs 2.5 ounces and it’s balance swing weight with a 4.5 ounce reel is the most sensitive jig to hand rod I own. One can high stick this light weight system most of the day without too much fatigue. Thanks for an awesome video, seriously!!!!!
Moonshine is crap
I have that 2100-4 ESN II here near my desk, it's as tight as a guitar string when fish bite. For small flies, ultra light rigs it is a wonderful rod. I fished that rod exclusively for a while until switching out to a bit longer T and T rod, and have been there since.
@@ashtonmakowsky9838 Hey Ashton, it’s hard to find a euro rod now days that’s crap. Just from your statement alone, I can tell you are a dumb a-s!!!!!!!
@@redsflyshop very interesting!! Thanks!!
@@wvlongshooter3912 not nearly as dumb as someone who buys a moonshine rod though 😂
Did we forget the IMX Pro or is it not a contender
Don't forget Cortland!
We didn't forget. Fine rod company, we just no longer carry them.
Hi
I'm very desapointed
You like the shamallow shadow 2.
A top contains Price rod IS the guideline lpx nymph
Shop this and test and Say me!!
I know the response.
Lol huh...
Ahh shucks, the Boron super 10 was not invited to this party. Someday we might see a review.
It’s not really a Euro rod, excellent light indicator rod but I wouldn’t select it for tight lining.
@@redsflyshop I tight line with it almost exclusively. But the only other rod I own is the sage sonic 4wt. I think the boron super is great. However, maybe I should add a (euro specific) rod to the mix.
@@Oldtimersguild I LOVE Winston Rods. I think if you put it next to a T and T 10' 3, you would see that there is a night and day difference in how light the tips are on the T and T. The Super 10 is a great rod for many things, but it wouldn't be fair to compare it to some of these purpose built rods.
I will say the Shadow II is not super durable. I am on my second tip and I will probably need a few things repaired on mine at the end of this season.
Agreed. I'm not sure I said it was super durable, we carry extra tips in stock for this rod. There are much more durable rods in the review.
Catching a fish shouldn’t be this complicated.
Oh it's not, but neither is playing guitar of using other fine instruments if your goal is just to make something that sounds sort of like music. If your goal is just to catch a fish then fly fishing or a fine rod isn't required at all.