"YNGWIE MALMSTEEN" (1984) VS "FASTEST GUITAR SHREDDERS"
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- YNGWIE MALMSTEEN (1984) VS "FASTEST GUITAR SHREDDERS"
Check out Yngwie Malmsteen's amazing guitar abilities compared to other guitar players from the same era. Do you think he was technically the best? Even musically the greatest? He certainly changed the game as far as technical guitar ability goes...
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Yngwie is what you dream you could sound like. Holdsworth is what you couldn't even imagine sounding like.
Can't even compare No one played like A.H
Allan is like AI guitar..
I see exactly what you mean, here.
Shawn Lane
Malmsteen around 1984 had the best skills and tone of his career. Also, he had a lot of finesse and musical charisma back then that sadly, diminished slightly as he aged.
I agree.
Yes in 1984 or during his prime hes untouchable in terms of shredding touch and flawless speed smoothness and when jason becker come out i prefer jason becker phrasing and melody choices of notes and sweep picking.... but live playing? Yjm rules
Agree
Yngwie rimane nella storia una leggenda da cui moltissimi hanno preso ispirazione tra cui Jason Becker Paul Gilbert Michael Romeo Michael angelo batio.....personaggio e musicista irraggiungibile
Yngwie crashed his Ferrari in 1986 and was in a coma for a week. He suffered nerve damage and had to relearn the guitar again.
Yngwie, Holdsworth and a gentleman named Shawn Lane. Trifecta of legendary greatness.
Not lane, computer music
I took lessons from Shawn for years. He could definitely " outshred" anyone. Only person i have seen that comes close is Mateo Mancuso
@@shredboy5000 I guess you moved to Atlanta or something and are teaching there part-time? Memphis was a decent place to live before the 2000's. I used to have a blast hanging out at Strings when you worked there. What's up man?? Still here and chasing that tone! David Wasson
@@RockNRoller66 i remember you. Moved to birmingham. Working at a store a lot like the old SnT. Teaching 50+ students a week for last 18 years. Still playing. And riding motorcycles. Thats about it .
When Yngwei was in his prime before the accident he shock the guitar world with hes way to play. Extreamly fast, clean, and exeptional vibrato. He was the first to really bring neo classic metal. He still is a fantastic guitarplayer. One thing is for sure. He will have his place in the history books. As a Swede my self I am proud this icon is from my country.
Does anyone know what is the track in the intro ?
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Not the first, but One of them. Uli Jon Roth…
Yngwei has said his picking improved after the accident. I still think Guthrie is #1 all time and Yngwei #2.
@@KimOlof
No, No, No
==>> BLACKMORE !!!
Back then they all were awesome players. We are so very fortunate that all these players and their incredible performances were recorded and are available now.
Thank you for taking your time to put this video together.
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Holdsworth is on a whole different level. Yngwie is a Rock God.
No
1984 Malmsteen was a freaking monster …. But Holdsworth is from another planet altogether
Yngwie was the speedking at that age, but most of all an inspirator for the rest of the club of guitarslingers! 🎯
Holdsworth was from another planet.
Always.
I dont know about speed but YJM sounds much more pleasing
Like a smoother attack
@@MetalMan2525 feels fair to say "thats what he does", what do you expect, like a seasoned dentist or something😂. Its just what he does
I was never a big YM fan as it seemed to feel like his music always sounds the same to itself. The other guitar players provided here have more cemented history with my musical prowess BUT out of all the performances, YM was the cleanest and smoothest approach towards the scales in their respective presentations. They are all great guitar players but Malmsteen truly shines in this video with his notes all clearly defined, perfectly articulated and overall showmanship fit for a hall of fame. Its all about perspective and personal opinions may vary, but this is a good stepping stone to a worthy debate for either side of the table.
In those days Yngwie was a purist. Far cleaner and concise. His approach with tone , arpeggios, and clean sound was like that of the violin. Which he stated was a major influence.
you can´t compare malmsteen with anyone, he is second to none ;-)
Man, I'm gonna have to second that YJM is my guy on my UA-cam. You'll see. I gotta shout out from him. He's freaking incredible. He has a lot of philosophy and wisdom in this stuff.
La plettrata di yngwie è da mettere al conservatorio
Reb beach better
Jake e lee better
Van Helen god
And Steve Vai demi god
All vastly superior than malmsteen
@@sw1000xg ma che dici non stai bene...il maestro yngwie è una leggenda
Big agree, Reb Beach is awesome@@sw1000xg
Ritchie and Uli was playing those neoclassical stuffs already in 70's..
And Yngwie said he was heavily influenced by Uli in his books.
Rising Force changed my guitar playing forever. Thanks Yngwie.
AMEN
1984? It's Yngwie for sure. I was there, I know.
Yngwie Malmsteen and Michael Schenker...Giants.
Yngwie and Eddie by far
What about Holdsworth?
Holdsworth Nah!
Yngwie sounds the cleanest to me and the last dude
Just think man..we were the luckiest bastards to have all those guys. I love them all.
Who really cares who was the fastest? Isn't it about who plays the most musically? :) I am a big fan of all the guitarists in the video and they have all inspired me a lot, but I have never thought, who is the fastest? It's not a competition even though many guitarists today seem to think it is a competition :)
This. And that is why David Gilmore is usually high on most top 10 guitarist lists.
@@ronaldkoch2766 I am with you on that. Awhile back, I got into the whole shred thing and l listened to alot of Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and Malmsteen in particular. Don't get me wrong, these guitarists are highly skilled and brilliant players and are the best at what they do. I tend to get a little bored after awhile with the playing extremely fast makes you the king of rock guitar. I tend to really enjoy and appreciate players like David Gilmour, Rory Gallagher, Robin Trower etc. My favorite 3 on this list are Van Halen, Michael Schenker and Gary Moore. The best guitarist is what makes your ears the happiest.
I'm just pleased I got to see most of those guys live during their peak. It's mainly the Americans I missed out on (Batio, Lynch, EVH, Jake, Gilbert) plus Sykes. For pure 'shred', Yngwie was the best, but T Mac's 'Maximum Security' is my all time favourite instrumental guitar album. I was knocked out at how good Uli JR was on that Electric Sun tour (Beyond the Astral Skies).
Yngwie unbelievable player but his songs were just okay. That’s why it’s hard to compare him to the great EVH and some of the other great players on this list. Speed solo’s doesn’t always translate to complementing the song. A lot of Yngwie’s songs are wildly overplayed.
I have a Yngwie Malmsteen's Fender, he's one of my favorite guitar players, but I do not see music as a competition between Yngwie and the others mentioned...we can learn with everyone of them and that's it. People have some attraction to things like 'the best of ever', 'the greatest', etc. That makes no sense to me in art. All of us have our favorite and that's all...our subjective lists. Days ago I saw something like "Shawn Lane X Yngwie'...well, Shawn was so brilliant (like the old Yngwie), but fans were fighting in the comments like soccer fans...I see no point about it, Shawn is not so famous outside the guitarrists and would not be in those Mojo lists, but he was outstanding like many others: Greg Howe, Jason Becker, Scott Henderson, Allan Holdswort, etc...all of these ones would not be mentioned in popular lists, like the one that put Brian May as the best of ever...Brian is a genius, I love him, but he put it rightly in an interview about the list...you can find it easily. He said he's not the best and you can't rank people...the meaning of lists: to sell a product.
PS - George Harrison and Brian May are guitar players I love, they created beautiful guitar solos, few notes, a lot of passion and emotion. I love Gary Moore a lot too, great rock blues player, beautiful voice.
One last note: M. A. Batio is the only guitar player in your video I do not like...he sounds like a metronome checker. To listen to him is like to appreciate a metronome...boring, no melody.
Brilliantly said
Schenker on EVH:
"I love Eddie's playing, you know, he's for me, by far the best guitar player. And even though I wasn't listening to music, you could never get away [from] hearing [it] anywhere... And so really, he was fascinating. I mean, he's my favorite guitar player."
Ted Nugent, Steve Lukather, Neil Schon, George Lynch, the list goes on saying Eddie was the best!!
Randy Rhoads@@jeffhoskins6861
Nuno also loved Ed,Zakk also knew who the King was
Shenker was 10 times the player Eddie was.
@@colinme2672 cute
That was a great (and bad) time to be a guitarist. You had to be really on top of your game. Mike Varney had a lot of new killer guitarists coming out too. Yngwie sent a lot of guys to the woodshed.
@15:50 that Holdsworth line is pure genius.
yngwie made everyone elevate their game. varney was handing yngwies demos tapes to several young shredders including vai…. yngwie was god in 84’ and until his accident hard to match in tone, skill and stage presence
ashame he stopped improving his game - and stuck with a singer like joe lynn turner
could have been bigger commercially
maybe not eddie but much higher than he did … but yngwie will always be the king of shred
I'm not sure what you mean by "stuck with Joe Lynn Turner" Joe was only on 1 studio album Odyssey and that album was Yngwies most successful album, and highest charting album of his career. Heaven Tonight was getting radio airplay. Back then it was well known Yngwie had issues with singers and had an ever changing lineup of band members..he was fired from Alcatrazz for a fight with Graham Bonnet over who was the frontman..
meaning he should have stuck with joe lynn turner ( as a singer ) instead replace jlt with goran and the johannson bros, for that matter. odyssey was an awesome album / great tour and i think they could have made many more albums together - would have been more successful today but he chose to replace his singer and band mates every couple of albums
a shame
would be great if he could reconnect with someone in his past for the rising force 40th anniversary tour i’m sure he’ll take advantage of
Jack E Lee......a monster
Malmsteen is number 1
Yngwie was the best in that year. No doubt about it. That's not to say there weren't other great players but let's get real here.
my favorit guitarist is one and only gary moore~
He’s one of mine too! Could do it all with MELODIES! Not just flying around the fretboard!
"Who cares?" some will say....but it's fun to look back and compare the greats! Thanks for watching @guitargodzunleashed
Man, this is unjust to most of the 84's shredders (with Holdsworth exception of course), many of them were still engaging Van Halen's style or trying desperately to keep it up with what came from the Steeler's or Alcatrazz's albums. George Lynch once said it all, back in the day during the Hear n' Aid sessions they all were scared of Yngwie, and those very same sessions would become the reality version of what you tried to make with this video, which by the way was excellent, thanks for doing it.
Cheers man thanks for your comment 🤘🎸
Jake E Lee is so underrated and but for getting stuffed by Sharon should have had a bigger career
Just basing on the video, Malmsteen wins hands down.🤘(I will immediately eliminate Jake E.Lee, EVH, Uli Roth and Blackmore - although fantastic guitar players, their technique are 2 notches below Yngwie's level.) The others are like "forcing" the speed...their playing sounds "wanting" to be fast for the sake of playing fast. (except Allan who is more of a Legato/fusion player.)
YJM on the other hand simply FLOWS with natural speed. Just flawless organic speed, Truly one of a kind, special generational player, proof that his technique is above the task, you won't sound that if your technique is not on par with the sound you have in your head. As Guthrie Govan said in an interview, he admired Yngwie's technique more than his peers because his "speed has intention". He is right, It's not fast for the sake of being fast. He wanted to sound like the violin, like Bach and Paganini pieces. ❤🔥
Apart from the great speed, he has this "Godlike Vibrato" like no other. So clearly, Malmsteen rules and dominates.🎸
Well said
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why never add early richie kotzen video ?
Agreed with you but Holdsworth and Gary Moore were in a league of their own, next level again.
I agree the speed is natural as if he is more concerned with the phrasing like on I am a viking the feel is amazing .
That is something he got from Holdsworth IMO the lightness and natural legato
Great video man! Really enjoyed the shred off.😊
Thanks pal, might make some more vids like this one 🤘
Where is Chriss Impellitteri, Shawn Lane, Jason Becker
It’s footage from 1984 or as close that as possible. Impellitteri was a couple of years later I believe so he’s not in this. And no footage of Becker until 86…And there may be some footage of Lane but I didn’t find it although I have an audio recording of Shawn from 1982 and he blows everybody away in terms of speed and technique!
Jason no match???
He is in one league with Holdsworth, MacAlpine and Shawn Lane.
1984. even though there are clips of Shawn lane from then
Still scary
Check Vinnie Vincent out, especially from the Vinnie Vincent Invasion album (1986). Very underrated. He could play very fast in a different style to Yngwie.
Different styles! And Jake is one of my top 5!!
i think the big diference was that ingwye start using diferent stuff whit the armonic minor mode and devolope new sounds,diminiture arpegios etc.and the rest of the players was only pentatonic or eolian,natural modes.
That’s right…Zakk wylde said Yngiwe was a game changer, like EVH a few years earlier.
@@GuitarGodzUnleashed and also he started playing whit the neck pick up,when all the players was playing whit the bridge pick up,diferent mode and diferent sound a new fresh style.
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Haha, exactly. ALL are focused on playing the Pentatonic box. While Yng is blazing with Harmonic Minor, Phyrigian and Diminished weird but unique sounding scales.
@@bozo1910you see the guitar god scale was the Dorian mode as its rock n roll. From
Chuck berry to jimi Hendrix to evh. That was the scale of choice. I think maybe it started changing with the advent of the jcm 800 to more heavy metal and that introduced more scales to have a darker sound. But I’d still rather listen to evh and Hendrix .
Excellent video, tnx👍
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All the modulation going on when Holdsworth is playing is really what sets him apart from everyone else. You have to be a genius to be able to play like that and keep track of where you are and not get lost.
"I don't fuckin sweep pick" YJM
Al Di Meola was a huge influence on Yngwie in His formative years & now they're practically neighbors.
Others in the race may have been
Chris Impelliteri,Buckethead,Jeff Watson, Vinnie Moore,Mitch Perry ,Rob Marcello,John McLaughlin;Akira Takasaki..& soon to be famous guys like Jason Becker, Greg Howe & Warren Di Martini & Ron Thal.. etc.
Shawn Lane was the fastest I ever witnessed back then.
Damn! You brought all of the heavy hitters even Michael Angelo with his real hair!
I prefer Allan Holdsworth, is not the fastest guitar player who lived, but i love his playing over YJM or EVH
You can talk speed, but his live tone was better than everyone as well except for EVH.
5:51 Steve Vai being so god mode on alternate picking
Yngwie tone is unique
Malmsteen was not the fastest, but he had the best balance and tone.
no one can beat nygwie on 1980-1990
Malmsteen, Allen Holdsworth, Eddie ❤
What’s that live from Gary Moore at the beginning ? Thanks !
It's "Rockin' Every Night" from "Gary Moore - Live in Ireland 1984". The whole concert is a gem and contains much better guitar work than this one here. Check Out
ua-cam.com/video/9cgGdkC1bXA/v-deo.htmlsi=weMO_pDqv7YSaSGC
Glad 2 c Tony MacAlpine mentioned, up against Malmsteem. Found both, n Guitar Magazine record pulloutz, when 1st learning Guitar.
Yngwie is my heroe my god since 1983
But there is one guitarist that did get to his level and more
" Vinnie moore"
But still yngwie is the boss and the master of all the shreders of the 80s and even today.
Very nice beautiful metal-guitar world mans! Dears legends! Guitar world!! Thank-you very much for tectonic-very big prof works!!! Rock n roll! Everybody!!
Are you're comparing 1984 Yngwie with a lot of post 1984 footage from other players? I'd say the 70s era guys--Uli Jon Roth, Ritchie Blackmore, were just hopelessly outmatched And you'll find no bigger fan of the 80s than me. I'm a huge Jake E Lee and George Lynch fan and while they undoubtedly were great players ,Yngwie was just from another planet. It was like he was at least a generation ahead of them.
This is all footage as close to 1984 as possible. I think the Vai footage might be from 1985.
What are you smoking? Uli Jon was smoking it and Richie Blackmore in early mid 70’s was insane your just a rookie check out Blackmore in 1969 shredding a hollow body
Uli Jon Roth takes a backseat to nobody
@@billb372 "Doctor J takes a backseat nobody!"
Y'all are so funny, I swear.
i think every guitar player in 84 are great in their own styles. we dont have to compare the skills that made them famous. music is not a battle but a road to success. Classical? ofcourse Yngwie is the one, he is great on this style no doubt about it.
Yngwie is obviously one of the greats he is fast, clean, and good tone...BUT he a niche style that he rarely deviates from, he stays in the neo classical style of scales, arpeggios, etc...for me Steve Vai is best because if the diversity of guitar stunts, scales, weird bends and ,making guitars talk etc..
Does anyone know what is the track in the intro ?
Great editing.. all good in their own way..excellence
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Holdsworth is incredibile 😮
They're all blindingly amazing, especially for the time period. That said, Shawn Lane was absolutely circling them all back in 1979. And he only got scarier and farther separated from the rest as time progressed. Gone way too soon.😢
yngwie can juggling around the fretboard, while the others are very systematic and like a robot sound style. i like yngwie
Say what you want about Yngwie but what separates him from other shredders is creativity. He is a composer and songwriter, and in Neo Classical he is unmatched in my opinion and that’s what makes him so great.
Yngwie always looks so damned relaxed, while he is shredding his melodies. 🤘
There are really great players in that video.
Uli Jon Roth
George Lynch
EvH
MacAlpine
Jake E Lee
John Sykes
Steve Vai
Holdsworth
Shawn Lane
Jason Becker
Al DiMeola
AND SOME MORE
are on this level
THERE IS NO GOAT!
Yngwie is on whole other level at that time.
No1, the King of all timers. The GOAT !
Although all the guitars that I've just heard up against Yngwie Malmsteen which I love so many of them guitarists and always will Yngwie is the King to me
Let's Talk about musicality,Dave Martone,Neil Zaza,Steve Morse..
YJM vs Jake Lee, Malmsteen was way more complex and technical with better tone overall. This is my opinion after playing guitar and shredding for soon 30 years. ( Ps. I wrote this before wtaching anymore of the video ) After watching more I am pretty convinced this will hold true vs. anyone else in the video maybe except Steve Vai, They are both totally amazing. However, Uli roth.. Without him there would most likely be no YJM to talk about at all. Gotta say in the end just love them all. They are all amazing. Evil Eye is still one of the most raw guitar shredding solo songs of all time though😁🔥💯💯💯
I have no issue conceding that YJM probably had the cleanest and fastest technique of that glorious era (although Gilbert was close). His vibrato is awesome, too. That said, aside from Batio, Macalpine, and Holdsworth, I like every other player on this list TONS more than YJM. Because at the end of the day, everyone here was MORE than fast ENOUGH, and most of them had more TASTE than Malmsteen, overplayed LESS, and seem to have something to say with their lead work other than "look how fast I can play."
I saw YJM live with Alcatrazz when he was 19 or 20. My thought was "this guy might become the greatest of all time when he grows up -- IF he develops some taste, and maturity in his playing." Contrast the fast playing with slow playing so there's dynamic contrast -- so when you play fast, it hits harder. Play for the SONG rather than just wanking away at full speed over everything all the time. By the time YJM was pushing 30, it was clear that those things were never going to happen.
In 84, probably only the Jazz guys (Benson, Holdsworth, Joe Pass), Uli, Steve Morse, Marty Friedman was as good as Yngwie
I just have to say that when most of the other guitarist were playing very fast it just sounded like a practice exercise and not a melody in a song. Yngwie had a story going on in the music. Nothing against the other players who I mostly love.
Yngwie’s tone and precision was always better.
But I am surprised Joe Satriani isn’t on this list. I would say he is the one who gave Yngwie a run for his money.
Yngwie tone absolutely cut through. Less or more drive, gain, distortion, he play clean 🔥🔥🔥
Ingwie and Steve and many others plays in the same league. But my favorit on this time was Steve Morse and later Vinnie Moore, Joe Satriani and John Petrucci.
Uli Roth can do that classical modes so can Tony MaCalpine another one is Joe Stump but Yngwie started the style with electric guit
Nope.Uli played it much earlier in 1974. he is the original shredder.and he is far better than all the others
And…Eddie VH was class and had a unique style and sound
One of the biggest differences between yngwie and all the others is yngwie s ability to improvise so completely at will
They`re different styles, I love Yngwie for being Yngwie and Jake for being Jake ,everyone plays his best they`re all special.
I have recordings of Shawn Lane at 14 years old that not one of these guitarists can even come close to matching.
This is worth the watch
I was watching this on double speed and Roger Glover won!
Didn't catch the "vs" here, loved em all.
Correct me, if I'm wrong...
Malmsteeem vs. Ritchie Blackmore
Izn't Blackmore like Malmsteemz Yoda?
Oh yes. The only one who has a hard time to admit it, at least in the past, is Yngwie.
Yngwie fan is around the world bcos of his skill and creative melody solo created
Yngwie definitely owned 1984! And Gary Moore was a true master.... Vai, Gilbert, Etc... So much great and innovative playing!
I like these older shredders because it was all part of the 'show' and generally their solos fitted the songs except when solo spots demanded a bit of showmanship. The so called players of today are mostly just blowing over a backing tracks, no real memorable hooks or song content... Uli Jon Roth is my all time fave of this bunch and rules over all of them to my ears..... Blackmore and Van Halen are up there too because they were of that time where songs mattered too.... it's a great compilation though of some great memories from back then. Having said all that Holdsworth is on another level to everybody ......
Wow I forgot how many ripping guitarist there were and I got to see everyone of them
They all have more skills than they know what to do with
Back then, Yngwie was the greatest 👍. But Allan was from Earth 313, I think 🤔
the thing i like about Malmsteen is that he was the original . he didn't just play fast he had great tone and energy. it was rare for him to play fast just to play fast. man you are bringing me back to when i first started playing guitar. i was 16 and seen Eddie ,Vivian cambell and Yngwie .the same clips your playing. i used to go in my basement and pretend i was rob halford why i sang with the video. pretty much everyday. i thought i did damn good for singing that high. but yeah idk if Yngwie is the best of that year when he's up against so many monsters like Holdsworth.eddie,richie and the like. i know holdsworth does shit loads of hammer ons and pull offs while Yngwie is picking most everything.🙅
There were plenty of great shredders back in the day, and Yngwie was certainly in the conversation about top honours. Holdsworth wasn't a shredder really, I'm gonna leave him out. But for outright jaw-dropping speed and articulation, even in 1984, I have Shawn Lane at the top. He didn't really come to prominence until the 90s, but he was cooking in the 80s and at his peak, he was untouchable.
I took lessons from Shawn in the late 80s and early 90s and can attest to your comment
Saw him in '86 in Phoenix with Saxon and Black & Blue
What about Chris Impellitteri ? 😊
Best of the best until now Yngwie malmsteen
Speed and shredding is nice , but garbage if without heart, put together beautiful harmony, and notes structured to convey emotion .
MY FIRST CONCERT EVER ... YNGWIE, LITA FORD , 1987 CONCORD, CALIFORNIA, SECOND ROW. I WAS 16 YEARS OLD, I HAD STARTED PLAYING THE YEAR BEFORE....I WAS NEVER THE SAME ... INSANE.
MAYBE IT WAS 1988 ...LOL
Yngwie is great and was so unique and a force of nature in 1984.
What a tone too..
But Holdsworth is on a different planet to everyone with maybe the exception of Vai..imho