Koos du Plessis - Kinders van die wind

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  • @francoisduplessis5776
    @francoisduplessis5776 9 років тому +6

    Classic legends in our mother tongue. Afrikaas is die mooiste taal nog ooit.

  • @seanonel
    @seanonel 7 років тому +47

    I have become enchanted with 'Koos Doep' and his music. It's oft dark, but accepting of fate, and there's a strange kind of peace one finds when listening to his music. Almost like floating weightlessly in the twilight stratospheres between earth and heaven, life and death, sleep and wakedness. Almost like the sensation one feels when one is having a particularly spiritual lucid dream.
    Koos was one of the most remarkable wordsmiths that I believe I have ever had the privilege of listening to. My father's side of the family was Afrikaans, but having two generations growing up in Northern Rhodesia/Zambia and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe meant that English was the language we spoke. Moving to South Africa didn't change much, as I was in an English speaking school where 'Immigrants Afrikaans' was not much more than a free period in which we could goof around. I passed the language with an E- of which I was very proud despite the fact that I had good marks in all the other subjects on Higher Grade. I only really started learning Afrikaans properly when I came to London and got into a relationship with an Afrikaans girl.
    Not so long ago, my German partner passed away, and - as a tribute to her memory, and also to distract me from grief - I began to learn German. I found myself becoming incredibly immersed in the language as I started to discover little gems that are just not possible to convey in the English language. I began to wonder what I had missed in Afrikaans, and it is only recently that I have come to the conclusion that it is a precious, poetic language of which which far too many people underrate simply because of the initial impressions made by its so called guttural sounds. Koos brought back to the language the beauty of diction that the richness of its words deserve in deep high literature presented as song.
    Back to Koos. His use of words is quite simply put: masterful (I tried not to use Tom Dunn's words, but he nailed it perfectly). Lines like "Ek voel die kou, ek voel die vuur vreet my stuk-stuk op." just make me feel as if I have discovered a precious gem and I've had to wade through a labyrinth of self discovery illuminated only by Koos' wise poetry in order to find it. Now I have to try and escape this place that I find myself in, and the song has ended...
    RIP Koos.I hope that a handful of rays finally lit the darkness in your heart.

    • @christdiedforoursins8985
      @christdiedforoursins8985 3 роки тому +2

      Braai dude,my story is similar to yours.I was recently reading" fielas se kind "met Benjamin Kamotie ,he also wants to know who he is where he comes from so he can live life fully.I heard Koo's kombuis Lisa se klavier , in Capetown I loved it my ancestors on my father's side are Dutch and French hugenots ( Afrikaans.) Coetsenburg is in my family history. My father and his parents were anglicised from the Union, my mother created a strange hatred in me for Afrikaans , I loved Afrikaans secretly ,but now I'm finding a renewed joy in Afrikaans language and the culture I'm also working on my geneology which is so Interesting .Thanks for sharing your story.May Jesus bless you .

    • @seanonel
      @seanonel 3 роки тому +4

      @@christdiedforoursins8985 Thank you for your carefully worded and eloquent response. I enjoyed reading it. May God's Grace, Mercy and Peace shine on you in these difficult times.
      Sean

    • @christdiedforoursins8985
      @christdiedforoursins8985 3 роки тому +2

      @@seanonel Thank you for you kind words Sean .🕊️
      Andrea

    • @christdiedforoursins8985
      @christdiedforoursins8985 3 роки тому +2

      @@seanonel Jesus said ; I'll never leave you or forsake you I'll be with you always even to the end of the age .We have such a good hope .Thank you so much !. Sometimes words really count . Sometimes when things in life look very uncertain,maybe a bit dark even , I look back and say ,if they( those who have go one before us )made it we'll be ok ! Jesus is with us ,even if all hell breaks loose nothing can seperate us from his love .Sorry I wrote so much ,I was just greatful .👋sleep well 🕊️

    • @seanonel
      @seanonel 3 роки тому +1

      @@christdiedforoursins8985 Bless you Andrea. The only constant in this world is Jehovah. Holy, holy, holy. And He is wholly holy.
      Sweet dreams.

  • @london4good
    @london4good 3 роки тому +4

    ik vind deze lied heel leuk

  • @TenereTravelers
    @TenereTravelers 12 років тому +39

    No other language can describe things so beautifully. I have been living in Australia for 13 years and speak Afrikaans to my kids every day. They were very small when we left but I am glad that we have made the effort to keep Afrikaans as our home language. Ongelukkig klink alles wat ek in Afrikaans skryf snaak vir my en die spelling kom nie meer so natuurlik nie.

    • @Mariusmjvr
      @Mariusmjvr 7 років тому +1

      Selfde hier.

    • @dekockn
      @dekockn 6 років тому +1

      Dis hartseer

    • @alzannesings
      @alzannesings 4 роки тому +3

      Ek bly ook al 12jr in Adelaide Australië en het my 4 kinders ook almal afr aanhou leer praat ❤

    • @deonjansenvanrensburg8778
      @deonjansenvanrensburg8778 3 роки тому

      Toemaar vir die spelling. Die nuwe geslag in Suid Afrika sukkel ook met die spelling.

    • @2play4win10
      @2play4win10 3 роки тому +3

      Groetjes van een Griek uit Nederland die aan Julie denkt..

  • @DJJoester
    @DJJoester 15 років тому +6

    Awesome makes me so proud to be a South African.....Miss you all

  • @Ellamental66
    @Ellamental66 13 років тому +8

    spine tingling stuff. Afrikaans is such an amazing poetic language. Some feelings just cannot be translated.

  • @josephmosikili1902
    @josephmosikili1902 5 місяців тому +1

    Just a beautiful song out of South Africa. Koos is South African National Treasure

  • @mobiustrip1400
    @mobiustrip1400 5 років тому +5

    Wow. Great afrikaans poetry. This stirs something deep in my heart

  • @emdosawaseb2966
    @emdosawaseb2966 8 років тому +29

    Getting nostalgic - used to listen to these songs during the 80s

  • @00008mel
    @00008mel 11 років тому +11

    This was one of my grandmother's favourite songs and she used to listen to it almost everyday.......now this song just reminds me of her, may her soul rest in peace

  • @leonsmith7068
    @leonsmith7068 4 роки тому +1

    Koos... Dankie vir die pragtige songs

  • @adhdtubekanaal
    @adhdtubekanaal 9 років тому +24

    Heel mooi, ik vind het erg mooi Afrikaans tc

  • @remon4321
    @remon4321 9 років тому +14

    Man dis mos nou n liedjie , een van die grotes!!

  • @tomdunn1254
    @tomdunn1254 9 років тому +60

    Koos was an absolute master in the use of the Afrikaans language. Listen to any of his songs and one gets chills down your spine. He died way too soon. It is a pity that much of the song, its meaning and nuances will get lost in translation into another language. What he says and the way he says it can only be done in Afrikaans..

    • @gerritluttig2711
      @gerritluttig2711 7 років тому +2

      Legende.

    • @joeblack4436
      @joeblack4436 6 років тому +4

      For me this song literally expresses the entirety of the the human condition - And makes you feel okay about it all. In 2 and a half minutes.

  • @ronevisser6499
    @ronevisser6499 9 років тому +34

    Probably the best lyrics in Afrikaans ever

  • @nthotomosikili1653
    @nthotomosikili1653 11 років тому +14

    This song reminds me
    so much of my upbrigings
    in Qwa-Qwa, South Africa.

    • @francoisephillips
      @francoisephillips 5 років тому +1

      Beautiful.

    • @boepens55
      @boepens55 5 років тому +1

      Khotso Nthoto, lekae?

    • @nthotomosikili1653
      @nthotomosikili1653 3 роки тому

      @@boepens55 Dear Garth,
      Sorry to get back to you this late. I am doing just fine.

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING Місяць тому

      ​​​​​​@@nthotomosikili1653ka niti! Di legoa le a bolela sesotho! Le kae batho? Ke a rata Koos ka mata. Sephela ga botsi khotso.

  • @raytheron1
    @raytheron1 13 років тому +1

    'n Digter en sanger sonder weerga in een van die allerrykste tale... Ek mis jou, Koos....

  • @Peacethology
    @Peacethology 11 років тому +4

    raw and beautiful... poetry at it's best... words is what i live for. words is what i write. words that sooth the soul... Dankie

  • @donnebritz7712
    @donnebritz7712 9 років тому +10

    Awesome song asook een van die groot musiekgeeste! Music met gevoel, feel the vibe in any language!

  • @RalfEbinger
    @RalfEbinger 2 місяці тому +1

    Bestes Musik "ever"

  • @moojoa
    @moojoa 13 років тому

    Is ons almal maar nie eintlik kinders van die wind nie ? Ons waai deur die lewe , ons word gebore , ons leef en uiteindelik sterf ons. Dankie Koos

  • @TheBusinessWarehouse
    @TheBusinessWarehouse 11 років тому +2

    This is one of the greatest Afrikaans songs ever written...

  • @sijbrandkamer1582
    @sijbrandkamer1582 5 років тому +1

    Al die liedjies van Koos is so pragtig!

  • @diddymuspeters
    @diddymuspeters 11 років тому +2

    Deep and simple. Koos had a real feel for life.

  • @rykheer
    @rykheer 11 років тому +3

    Thanks so much for recognising and acknowedging the beauty captured in this and so many other songs and poetry within an otherwise unappreciate language outside of its own circles.

  • @SansPedes
    @SansPedes 9 років тому +20

    Though I may not understand the words, that's beautiful in any language

    • @Graanvlok
      @Graanvlok 2 роки тому

      I can translate it for you if you want.

  • @wordsmith1
    @wordsmith1 9 років тому +12

    Die laaste keer ek het na dai lietjie geluister ek was tien of so. Baie pragtig.

  • @dawidthomaslottering3868
    @dawidthomaslottering3868 2 роки тому

    Hierdie man was 'n legende!!

  • @HarrySingh-bm3eg
    @HarrySingh-bm3eg 7 років тому +7

    I just love this song...always loved afrikaans musiek

    • @Mariusmjvr
      @Mariusmjvr 7 років тому

      Better tahn lekkerrrr!

  • @margiestrydom5609
    @margiestrydom5609 2 роки тому

    Pragtig pragtig Hy het verseker geweet waarvoor die lewe gaan.

  • @wiking08
    @wiking08 16 років тому +1

    Speaking as someone who was totally oblivious to the great man's works until around 5 months ago, when I was given the vinyl 'Skadus teen die Muur' album, all I can say is anyone who saw him perform is a lucky, lucky person ! I now own 3 of his albums, but my favourite song has to be 'Hermann'. If anyone can stick that song on here it would be much appreciated. It's a shame he died so tragically. RIP Kuus

  • @o.g.4272
    @o.g.4272 8 років тому

    Wonderlik ,dit neem my trug na my kindheid toe die series op die TV was.

  • @suidafrikaanseboer3320
    @suidafrikaanseboer3320 10 років тому +8

    Pragtig. Daar's nie woorde nie. Jy wil dit net oor en oor luister.

  • @alzannesings
    @alzannesings 4 роки тому +1

    Pragtig...soveel diepte ❤

  • @olafduijverman4016
    @olafduijverman4016 5 років тому +2

    schitterend lied aanbevolen door myn penvriend Dwayne uit Johannesburg

  • @hmvku
    @hmvku Місяць тому +1

    I made a Dutch version of the fine song, and sing it in performances. Henk van Kuijk

  • @SafferPOV
    @SafferPOV 3 роки тому +5

    I know an old, old ditty
    of life's will and ways
    of long forgotten vessels in
    the cellars of the sea
    The words have been forgotten
    and still the ditty lingers
    like scarce remembered extracts of
    very ancient tale¦
    Of wanderers without direction
    of seekers that never find¦
    and after all, all of us
    were only children of the wind
    Faces, dreams, names
    have been scattered by the wind;
    and where to all the words have gone,
    only a child would know
    Wanderers without direction
    seekers that never find¦
    after all, all of us
    were only children of the wind...

    • @pjn2001
      @pjn2001 3 роки тому +3

      Would replace "and still the ditty lingers" with "and still the melody lingers" - but great job

    • @yingtongdiddledipo
      @yingtongdiddledipo Рік тому +2

      I thought I'd try my hand at a translation that kept the mood, meter and rhyme more. Here it is:
      I know an old, old ditty
      Of living's woe and glee
      Of long forgotten galleons
      In the cellars of the sea.
      The words have all since scattered
      But the tune still echoes on
      Like the tale of a time so long ago
      Told in a vanished tongue
      Of drifters with no shoreline
      Of searchers who never find
      And in the end, we all are just
      Children of the wind.
      All the faces, dreams and titles
      Blow like leaves across the sky
      There is no net to catch them
      And only a child would try
      Drifters with no shoreline
      Searchers who never find
      In the end we all are just
      Children of the wind
      Not a perfect translation, but keeps to the beat of the melody and preserves a lot of the sea based imagery. Unfortunately, it is difficult to make English sound Afrikaans. A line like "lewen's wel en wee" has a lot of alliteration and assonance and is designed to simulate the push and pull of waves. It's also a line that breathes easily, like wind. Anyway, basically impossible to make an English translation that glides that well.

    • @DrivingSA-ot8ds
      @DrivingSA-ot8ds Рік тому

      @@yingtongdiddledipo Ja, translating from Afrikaans to English, it's difficult to get the feel across

  • @CollinSwart
    @CollinSwart 9 років тому +2

    Een van die bestes ooit!

  • @Sonia120906
    @Sonia120906 12 років тому +1

    I miss the old times

  • @francoisephillips
    @francoisephillips 5 років тому

    Die mooiste mooi.

  • @elswilliam
    @elswilliam 9 років тому +22

    verlange na dae lank, lank gelede...

  • @scherritknoesen148
    @scherritknoesen148 6 років тому

    Just wonderful wonderful words.

  • @DaveHedgehogMason
    @DaveHedgehogMason 13 років тому +1

    'n Genie, digter sonder gelyke!

  • @paulmcgregor4844
    @paulmcgregor4844 6 років тому

    Wow...amazing ..words.today i understand.

  • @nampatv
    @nampatv 7 років тому +24

    Afrikaans op sy beste, trots op my taal,

    • @icngmer
      @icngmer 6 років тому +1

      Namibia Press Agency ja Afrikaans op sy beste

  • @annemaresky8546
    @annemaresky8546 5 років тому

    Very beautiful voice

  • @Golftwenty
    @Golftwenty 11 років тому +1

    Great song !!

  • @friedadutoit549
    @friedadutoit549 Місяць тому

    What a legend

  • @TheSonetp
    @TheSonetp 12 років тому +1

    My land, my mense, vol drome, heimwee, lag laggies en giggel gesiggies. Ek verlang vanaand na almal uit my jongdae - Koos Doep vee al die geraamtes uit my kas.

  • @apiemunky
    @apiemunky 12 років тому +7

    Soos vaag onthoude grepies uit 'n baie ou verhaal... is dit nie hoe presies hoe mens iets onthou nie?

  • @MrElhabib123
    @MrElhabib123 2 роки тому

    Fantastis Sanger

  • @HarrySingh-bm3eg
    @HarrySingh-bm3eg 7 років тому

    Loved this song

  • @Mariusmjvr
    @Mariusmjvr 10 років тому +40

    This is art, not the Afrikaans music we are bombarded with now.
    He would've loved the new SA!

    • @SABradMan
      @SABradMan 10 років тому +3

      Stem 100%

    • @toast2610
      @toast2610 7 років тому +6

      Nee Marius, van die nuwe SA sou hy nie gehou het nie.

    • @jomo6913
      @jomo6913 6 років тому +1

      Jy het dit reg.

    • @johannesdejongh4102
      @johannesdejongh4102 6 років тому +5

      Nope, he would hate it and those of us that understands his songs know it. He is too deep a thinker and the shallow people of today would royally piss him off.

    • @JohnSmith-yi5xm
      @JohnSmith-yi5xm 5 років тому

      Its not that old Vinyl records are better quality than CDs - it is the music on them !!

  • @JanaBean85
    @JanaBean85 11 років тому +4

    Ai dit was die goeie ou dae toe musiek nog "binnegoed"en hart gehad het... voor al die kinders met hulle laptops begin musiek maak het!

  • @jjjcw67
    @jjjcw67 8 років тому

    Woorde wat nooit sal vergete gaan...uitstekend

  • @pieterdupreez8205
    @pieterdupreez8205 8 років тому +1

    koos Du plessis bly maar n legende. bring baie herineringe terug

  • @pietclaassen2352
    @pietclaassen2352 12 років тому

    die digter-skrywer wat ewig bly, wat die waarheid van ons almal se lewens opsom in die liedjie se chorus :
    ....swerwers sonders rigting, soekers wat nooit vind;
    en eintlik was almal maar, kinders van die wind....
    kersfees in die vreemde, ver weg van familie en vriende, laat die hart op n knop trek as jy na Koos luister

  • @agent4729
    @agent4729 13 років тому

    asem rowend mooi!!!!!

  • @dragonbone5000
    @dragonbone5000 15 років тому

    Beautiful!!!!

  • @mazafhakar3971
    @mazafhakar3971 3 роки тому

    That is the real stuff right there.

  • @ChristoBotha
    @ChristoBotha 12 років тому

    lief dit!!!

  • @MzanZIboy
    @MzanZIboy 14 років тому

    Jis, Bielie, ek mis hom !! Hy was amazing !!

  • @6ftS
    @6ftS 5 років тому +2

    Kinders Van Die Wind
    Koos Du Plessis
    Ek ken 'n ou, ou liedjie
    Van lewens wel en wee.
    Van lank vergane skepe in
    die kelders van die see.
    Die woorde is vergete
    en tog die deuntjie draal.
    Soos vaag onthoude grepies uit
    'n baie ou verhaal.
    (chorus)
    Van swerwers, sonder rigting.
    Van soekers wat nooit vind.
    En eindelik was almal maar
    net kinders van die wind.
    Gesigte, drome, name.
    Is deur die wind verwaai.
    En waarheen al die woorde is
    Sou net 'n kind kon raai.
    (chorus)
    Swerwers, sonder rigting.
    Soekers wat nooit vind.
    En eindelik was almal maar
    Kinders van die wind.

  • @flyonthewalls
    @flyonthewalls 11 років тому

    Bless you!

  • @JohnnNaude
    @JohnnNaude 10 років тому +2

    Baie mooi!

  • @CarpandFly
    @CarpandFly 12 років тому

    My ma se broer se naam was Koos. Hy was ongelukkig aangeraand deur n klomp Swartes op n trein naby Bloemfontein en oorlede. Elke keur waneer ek die liedjie hoor dink ek aan hom.

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING Рік тому

      Ag dis so tragies. Dis 10 jaar verder maar dit voel of ek nou steeds jou pyn en verlange kan voel.

  • @fransmars1645
    @fransmars1645 8 років тому +1

    Dai broek is klassiek!

  • @wayneantonpervan6062
    @wayneantonpervan6062 7 років тому +1

    mooi liedjie

  • @RobertLogger
    @RobertLogger 14 років тому +3

    Hierdie man word in Groningen die Afrikaanse Ede Staal genoem....

  • @jessicahart3920
    @jessicahart3920 7 років тому

    Sal nooit die song vergeet dink so baie aan my dierbare dad wat al 22jaar by Jesus is

    • @mjhauptfleisch614
      @mjhauptfleisch614 6 років тому

      Jessica, ek dink ek het Koos die eerste keer hoor sing in 1977 of 1978.
      Dit was op n kasset tape wat (Prof) Jannie Hofmeyr gehad het.
      Dit was in die woonstel in Marais Straat langs die kerk/Nemesia.
      Ek dink dit was Skadus Teen die Muur.
      Koos was nog totaal onbekend.

  • @Buc417
    @Buc417 12 років тому

    Koosman, jy vat diep!

  • @toscabrutus1781
    @toscabrutus1781 2 роки тому

    Koos jou musiek voed die siel

  • @Gontse_vx
    @Gontse_vx 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm cooked for Afrikaans p2 😭

  • @albertvdwesthuizen4059
    @albertvdwesthuizen4059 8 років тому +4

    Dis mos nou waarna geluister kan word.

  • @gerrieventer9389
    @gerrieventer9389 11 років тому

    Mooi. Trots op jou.

  • @cecilvanrhyn3696
    @cecilvanrhyn3696 7 років тому

    Beste uitsonderse misiek

  • @Neenie67
    @Neenie67 9 років тому +5

  • @nicky90769
    @nicky90769 6 років тому

    A True musical genuis....

  • @hammocomau
    @hammocomau 13 років тому +4

    Na al die jare kan ek nie help om saam te sing deur die trane nie
    Dankie Koos

  • @SafferPOV
    @SafferPOV 3 роки тому +1

    South Africa's Leonard Cohen

  • @wiking08
    @wiking08 15 років тому +1

    Can anybody help ? I'd really like to find translations of the songs 'Skimme' and 'Mornay', especially Mornay as I've a sneaky feeling it's about, or for, his wife, and if the words are as good as the tune then it must be a beautiful song !

    • @rinawillemse4561
      @rinawillemse4561 8 років тому

      The song Mornay was indeed written for his wife, Mornay. And the words beyond beautiful!

  • @alwynvermeulen
    @alwynvermeulen 9 років тому +7

    afrikaan op sy beste

  • @cobiegagiano5376
    @cobiegagiano5376 7 років тому

    Gras verwaai... in 'n stromwind so voel ek vanaand....

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING Рік тому

      Soms voel almal so. Byt vas, die Here is in beheer.

  • @diekkruger3137
    @diekkruger3137 3 роки тому +1

    Daar is maar net EEN Koos 📯

  • @Cultuurbased
    @Cultuurbased 14 років тому

    "Kinders Van Die Wind" is (geremasterd) opgenomen in de uitgave "Die Land Van Blou Saffiere", een biografie met cd en liedteksten, vertalingen, uitleg en achtergronden. Zie voor meer informatie: koosduplessis.eu

  • @andreytruter1491
    @andreytruter1491 10 років тому +2

    ek sien koos was n baie netjiese mens as ek so na die natte op sy broek en hemp kyk???

  • @louisfourie7756
    @louisfourie7756 2 місяці тому

    Sy liedjies was eintlik die wat ons gevoelens verwoord het sy neef het in die 1980 op Witrivier Mpumalanga Skoolgehou hulle het baie Na mekaar gelyk as hy v Springs sing sing van n plek wat Ek ken dis tussen ou mynhope van lank gelede gelee Ek en my neef Johan het eendag tussen die hope gaan loop ons Kom toe af op n mynskag wat lug insuig Vir die myn dit het so snaaks gevoel niks was buite sigbaar vd myn Nie ons het in die Vrystaat gebly en vakansies gaan klere en materiaal gaan koop n.plek waar Afrikaanse mense eintlik alleen gevoel het Gauteng is Nou die naam Vir Transvaal Koos was n stil skaam mens maar sy woorde pragtig

  • @richardfortune9490
    @richardfortune9490 9 років тому +6

    Nou dis afr misiek

  • @ConradPet
    @ConradPet 12 років тому

    AWESOME ! Verlang ek nou stukke huistoe van grote Amerika ! :D

  • @13spottie
    @13spottie 8 років тому +5

    N DIEP SONG

    • @greentyre2514
      @greentyre2514 7 років тому +1

      This was never a song like you put it. Dit was in 'n tyd toe sangers nog liedjies en liedere geskryf het. Not the songs of today.

  • @sands2727
    @sands2727 9 років тому +2

    Eina!

  • @Rato653
    @Rato653 4 місяці тому

    BAIE OULIK MANNNN

  • @craigheffer85
    @craigheffer85 7 років тому

    Het hy dit geskryf?

  • @paulhansen6270
    @paulhansen6270 7 років тому

    Prophetic of the state of Afrikaners that are scattered over the world

  • @fransmars1645
    @fransmars1645 5 років тому

    Sekerlik n flat in Berea. Ek het so op n ou metras gesit en wonder oor ons lot.

    • @annexton3795
      @annexton3795 3 роки тому

      Looks like he's taking a photograph of himself on the mirror.

  • @rynohattingh1314
    @rynohattingh1314 Рік тому

    Mis hom so

  • @GregorVanHees
    @GregorVanHees 9 років тому +2

    dis nou musiek

  • @Namwp
    @Namwp 15 років тому

    Skitterend !!!

  • @greatdane114
    @greatdane114 14 років тому

    What's his story? I used to live in SA

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING Рік тому

      He died many years ago in a motor vehicle accident before he became famous. Some people speculate that it could have been suicide.

  • @StephanvanVuuren
    @StephanvanVuuren 10 років тому +1

    En van ons GROOT geetse