I think my comment is going to get lost in the crowd. Bethlehem (Brendan) is a very good friend of mine who has worked so hard for this moment - an absolute angel of a person. I am so proud of him and will treasure seeing him watch it live forever. ❤
Not so patronising anymore and when the question is wordy, it's quite sweet the way he gets his pronunciation wrong stresswise, no doubt because of stress. Resembling the good JPaxman in that regard.
I'm from Sydney Australia. I agree that Bethlehem was extremely good. With the Kosciuszko question he was lucky though. He got the answer - NSW - via the Blue Mountains which are in NSW (near Sydney). Kosciuszko is not in the Blue Mountains though. Still - he has much more knowledge than me generally! All credit to him and the whole team.
"The more we are proud that the Bethlehem story is plain enough to be understood by the shepherds, and almost by the sheep, the more do we let ourselves go, in dark and gorgeous imaginative frescoes or pageants about the mystery and majesty of the Three Magian Kings." G.K. Chesterton, Christendom in Dublin
@@Zoomo2697 Feel obliged to point to Chesterton's hymn, "o God of Earth and altar", written in 1906 and set to music by Vaughan Williams via an older melody known as King's Lynn. Beyond Chesterton's life and the political context of his time, the hymn seems to carry a valid message for present time, the last days of Pompeii.
Fun fact! Jerusalem artichokes have nothing to do with Jerusalem or artichokes! They’re a kind of sunflower (so, in the daisy family) native to North America, and probably got the moniker of Jerusalem from the Italian girasole for sunflower (gira-turn sol-sun)
Some day there will be a midseason break and we will all be sitting and clicking refresh on a Monday. Oh, what a day of great sorrow it will be. Today is not that day, and for that, I am thankful.
Despard's haircut took me back to the late 70s/early 80s, so I watched a couple of episodes from 83/84. UC has definitely got harder, especially the STEM questions. These kids are impressive.
@@justmeajah Very few episodes from the Bamber Gascoigne era of UC (1962-87) are still available, even in tv company archives. It is great when people post on here from a VHS they recorded at the time - often there is no other way way to view the ep.
Wonderful match! Sorry for the losers - they were closing in on the repechage score but it was not to be. Congrats to the winners. Looking forward to seeing you again. Thank you CP for this weekly delight!
Anyone else but me do a double-take when Exeter’s captain introduced himself as Schuyler Colfax? The namesake of the 17th Vice-President of the US (to Ulysses Grant) and the 25th Speaker of the House? I’m guessing there must be a family connection there.
@@treekangaroo.7691 that is one of the great things about the program …you get to see brainy people from all over the world and it is somehow reassuring knowing there are many in the world
Lively match.. congratulations to both teams, especially the winners. Bethlehem (( wonderful name!) did Christ,s proud. Very knowledgeable young man. Thanks C.P. !
From Allen, Texas, thanks to CosmicPumpkin for providing us with some tiny modicum of culture. I was hoping my fellow Texan might go through (btw Austin is *completely* unlike the rest of Texas) but it was not to be. This was a tough round; I only got one one no-answer.
I am always disappointed that any question remotely related to Scotland is usually met with a stunned silence. Shocked that Bonnie Prince Charlie was answered, but 'Mons Meg'? Come on, only in Edinburgh!
8:24 minor linguistic gripe here but in Amol’s correction I’m pretty sure the past perfect would be“I am glad to *have had* a fox friend” rather than “glad I had a fox friend” - the past perfect in Spanish requires an auxiliary verb, right? EDIT: leaving my own error in, but the clause in question is in the present perfect, not the past perfect. Either way it would have an auxiliary verb and I think Amol is missing a word in his correction, hahah.
@@MetalheadBen88 sorry, you’re right! Been a long time since my days as a language student. But either way if it’s the perfect tense at all it needs an auxiliary verb, right? What Amol used would have been… the imperfect? The preterite?
@@lailedcat If I recall (I'm too lazy to watch the clip again), he just used the past simple - but you're definitely right about it being nigh on impossible to define the "perfect" by just one word in English.
I'd have accepted "I glad (or happy) I had", "I'm glad I have had" or "I'm glad to have had", but not "I am happy to have a fox friend", which was the answer given, because "haber tenido" refers to the past, literally "to have had": what we would call a perfect infinitive in English grammar. So in my opinion, UC got it right.
Agree Amol’s ‘explanation’ isn’t very helpful as there are multiple “perfect” tenses, but I don’t really see why they don’t accept this answer due to choosing an incorrect tense, but accept the Italian answer, which was further away from the English translation imo. Amol did say he wanted the sense of the quote.
Hello again! This game was notable in that both team captains were non-Britons. Don't know if I've ever seen that before, certainly not recently. The winners of this match were never in doubt. The losing team made a game of it in the middle, but the winning team more than met the challenge. The only question was if the losing team could score at least 125 to have a chance to come back. My best to both teams, and to each individual
This is not the first time there has been a translation picture round. Is it to much to ask that students with a well rounded education should know another language?
The person who doesn't know the difference between "composed for" and "dedicated to", rejects an answer based on a verb form? It's not the first instance of misinformation in the questions. I was sure we'll hear Schosti in this music round.
The show rules explicitly forbid appearing in multiple series. Having said that, Ian Bayley managed to get on for Imperial and Balliol, Oxford ~20-25 years ago.
@PS-vm3we Oh yeah, you can be a reserve and show up again (e.g. me). But unless you get famous enough to do the Christmas show, or the producers decide to do an All-Stars series; if your team gets knocked out, that's it, you're done.
This match almost hurt sometimes.... (too slow?)... As always, someone, somewhere is always shouting an answer... here: PASCAL!!!!, one, because in school that was in one of the "Baldor's" books and we suffered GREATLY with them... and two and mainly... this is University Challenge... IT'S ALWAYS PASCAL!!!, I've watched this show for years... you hear/read french and mathematics, it's PASCAL, it's *ALWAYS* PASCAL!!!! xD (Ok, maybe not always but the amount of times it has been Pascal..... =P )
Mayan is not an ethnic group, it's an identity that allows distinctive peoples to present themselves as a unity. I know many indigenous Guatemalans who do not consider themselves Mayan but Quiche, Kaqchikel, etc.
@@ElFacilHero ...It's not enough to say 'just an observation'. You could have asked the same question about a number of the contestants here. Who cares what his or others' origins are? Think before you write.
@@ElFacilHero ....Well, that's rather put me in my place, hasn't it? Perhaps, merely, as a counter-argument, you could have made it clear that you were Indonesian yourself in making your point. Still, I shouldn't have jumped in so vigorously. Robert, uk.
The translation exercise is completely impossible and totally goes against the spirit of the show. Asking four different people for instantaneous translations - the work of which takes professionals a long time to complete and does not lend itself to consensus -- and then nitpicking their grammar and meaning after they've had ten seconds to confer is subjective, mean spirited and cruel. I'm sure question setters and show consultants read these comments and I want to make it clear that we don't ever want to see that nonsense on this show again. Come up with a new stunt, because this one isn't it.
While I don’t feel as strongly about it, that set of questions _did_ strike me as an odd departure from the type of questions generally asked on the show.
Couldn't disagree more. It was perfectly possible to work out the required approximte, it wasn't exactly asking them to translate from Slavic, Arabic, Chinese or the like. And Amol was quite lenient with the German as the verb was specifically "answered" or "replied". English already has so many words derived from Germanic, Greek and Latin/Romance languages, and as academics they are indeed expected to have some knowledge of these and of etymology and use their reasoning and imagination.
'According to the Buddhist tradition, Gautama was born in Lumbini, now in modern-day Nepal, and raised in Kapilavastu. The exact site of ancient Kapilavastu is unknown. It may have been either Piprahwa, Uttar Pradesh, in present-day India, or Tilaurakot, in present-day Nepal.' You have to think about the lack of national states during the time of Buddha, which is to say, the 5th or 6th century BCE. Surely, the teachings of Buddha are not relevant to actual places. I'm not sure who these 'Westerners' are that you speak of.
I think my comment is going to get lost in the crowd. Bethlehem (Brendan) is a very good friend of mine who has worked so hard for this moment - an absolute angel of a person. I am so proud of him and will treasure seeing him watch it live forever. ❤
Ah, that's cool! He comes across as a very kind person :)
Congrats to him - impressive knowledge, and looks as if he really enjoyed it!
Literally so impressed by him this match. Could tell he worked really hard. Hope he's doing well!
I enjoyed Bethlehem's authentic modesty
He was goated
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this program. I don't know why. I know very few if any answers. However, I am riveted. And Amol is an absolute gem!
Not so patronising anymore and when the question is wordy, it's quite sweet the way he gets his pronunciation wrong stresswise, no doubt because of stress. Resembling the good JPaxman in that regard.
I'm from Sydney Australia. I agree that Bethlehem was extremely good. With the Kosciuszko question he was lucky though. He got the answer - NSW - via the Blue Mountains which are in NSW (near Sydney). Kosciuszko is not in the Blue Mountains though. Still - he has much more knowledge than me generally! All credit to him and the whole team.
_"Christ's! Bethlehem!"_ -- Arguably, a scene fit for _The Young Ones._ If only one of the answers would be _Jerusalem artichoke_ or something.
"The more we are proud that the Bethlehem story is plain enough to be understood by the shepherds, and almost by the sheep, the more do we let ourselves go, in dark and gorgeous imaginative frescoes or pageants about the mystery and majesty of the Three Magian Kings."
G.K. Chesterton, Christendom in Dublin
@@Zoomo2697 Feel obliged to point to Chesterton's hymn, "o God of Earth and altar", written in 1906 and set to music by Vaughan Williams via an older melody known as King's Lynn. Beyond Chesterton's life and the political context of his time, the hymn seems to carry a valid message for present time, the last days of Pompeii.
Fun fact! Jerusalem artichokes have nothing to do with Jerusalem or artichokes! They’re a kind of sunflower (so, in the daisy family) native to North America, and probably got the moniker of Jerusalem from the Italian girasole for sunflower (gira-turn sol-sun)
Love that Despard looks like a Weasley brother.
Some day there will be a midseason break and we will all be sitting and clicking refresh on a Monday. Oh, what a day of great sorrow it will be. Today is not that day, and for that, I am thankful.
Despard's haircut took me back to the late 70s/early 80s, so I watched a couple of episodes from 83/84. UC has definitely got harder, especially the STEM questions. These kids are impressive.
Omg is it still available online?
@@justmeajah About 10 years ago, I managed to watch every single episode of UC from the very first to the present.
@@justmeajah Very few episodes from the Bamber Gascoigne era of UC (1962-87) are still available, even in tv company archives. It is great when people post on here from a VHS they recorded at the time - often there is no other way way to view the ep.
Damn Bethlehem was on fire. Really impressive knowledge on a variety of subjects.
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UNIVERSITY CHALLENGE S54E10
MATCH STATS BELOW
Exeter - Oxford: 110 Eliminated
Christ's - Cambridge: 205
Starter Questions Stats
EXETER - OXFORD: 50
Allden = 0
Gray = 3/5 {30 minus 5 points}
Colfax = 2/4 {20 points}
Vemuri = 1/2 {10 minus 5 points}
Starter Success rate: 54.55% (6/11)
CHRIST’S - CAMBRIDGE: 110
Firman = 0/1
Bethlehem = 7/8 {70 minus 5 points}
Despard = 4/5 {40 minus 5 points}
Luu = 1/1 {10 points}
Starter Success rate: 80.00% (12/15)
Bonus Questions Stats
EXETER - OXFORD: 60
Bonus success rate: 66.67% (12/18)
CHRIST’S - CAMBRIDGE: 95
Bonus success rate: 57.58% (19/33)
Just a word of appreciation for the work you do. Thank you.
@@zaphbrox8239 yes, much appreciated
Yes, thanks. The stats are always interesting.
Thanks again, well done Bethlehem!
Wonderful match! Sorry for the losers - they were closing in on the repechage score but it was not to be. Congrats to the winners. Looking forward to seeing you again. Thank you CP for this weekly delight!
Highest scoring runners up so far:
1. UCL-175
2. Durham-165
3/4. Liverpool-125
3/4. UEA-125
Eliminated: Gonville & Caius-Cambridge-80, Manchester-75, Reading-100, Birkbeck-London-110, St. Catharine’s-Cambridge-120, Exeter-Oxford-110
Lowest scoring winner: Wadham-Oxford-180
Highest scoring winner: Bristol-325
Anyone else but me do a double-take when Exeter’s captain introduced himself as Schuyler Colfax? The namesake of the 17th Vice-President of the US (to Ulysses Grant) and the 25th Speaker of the House? I’m guessing there must be a family connection there.
I wondered about that myself! He didn’t add “the 7th” or anything though.
@@johnahearn7964 If i were him I wouldnt add "the 7th" either. Talk about cringe lol.
wonderful episode congratulations to both teams. You are young and brilliant. Thanks CP for bringing this us this episodes.
Good match. Felt like both teams were really carried by the two guys in the middle.
Absolutely….
5:26 agree!
As an American, I always do a double take when I hear an American accent on this show
And a Texan, at that. 😄
And apparently the same name as a Vice President (1869-1873), pointed out by @MrRubrick in comments.
@@treekangaroo.7691 that is one of the great things about the program …you get to see brainy people from all over the world and it is somehow reassuring knowing there are many in the world
Thank you Cosmic!!! Another great match!
Perfect, got done with the day's work literally 3 minutes ago!
Thank you pumpkin ❤
Another exciting match - thanks for the upload !!
Nice to see a non-aussie show with a correct (well, australian) pronunciation of mt kosciuszko,
kozzy is not in the blue mountains but in the snowy mountains. He was lucky that both ranges are in nsw
The lives of others, sonenallee and goodbye lenin. 5:50 - such good german films all three how do they not know lol
Lively match.. congratulations to both teams, especially the winners. Bethlehem (( wonderful name!) did Christ,s proud. Very knowledgeable young man. Thanks C.P. !
my sister has studied all of these pieces on the piano (starting 15:49) and yet I could name exactly none of them 😢
I didn't know the Weasleys did UC
From Allen, Texas, thanks to CosmicPumpkin for providing us with some tiny modicum of culture.
I was hoping my fellow Texan might go through (btw Austin is *completely* unlike the rest of Texas) but it was not to be.
This was a tough round; I only got one one no-answer.
I'm dumb as oatmeal and yet I knew Das Leben der Anderen. Let's gooo
I am always disappointed that any question remotely related to Scotland is usually met with a stunned silence. Shocked that Bonnie Prince Charlie was answered, but 'Mons Meg'? Come on, only in Edinburgh!
Jesus Christ! Bethlehem just doesn't slow down.
Thanks Cosmic P!
Christ's did pretty well on starters but their fairly low bonus question stats (
Another exciting match!
8:24 minor linguistic gripe here but in Amol’s correction I’m pretty sure the past perfect would be“I am glad to *have had* a fox friend” rather than “glad I had a fox friend” - the past perfect in Spanish requires an auxiliary verb, right?
EDIT: leaving my own error in, but the clause in question is in the present perfect, not the past perfect. Either way it would have an auxiliary verb and I think Amol is missing a word in his correction, hahah.
Well, the past perfect is "had had", actually >_> . "Have had" is the present perfect. *plays gripe uno reverse*
@@MetalheadBen88 sorry, you’re right! Been a long time since my days as a language student. But either way if it’s the perfect tense at all it needs an auxiliary verb, right? What Amol used would have been… the imperfect? The preterite?
@@lailedcat If I recall (I'm too lazy to watch the clip again), he just used the past simple - but you're definitely right about it being nigh on impossible to define the "perfect" by just one word in English.
I'd have accepted "I glad (or happy) I had", "I'm glad I have had" or "I'm glad to have had", but not "I am happy to have a fox friend", which was the answer given, because "haber tenido" refers to the past, literally "to have had": what we would call a perfect infinitive in English grammar. So in my opinion, UC got it right.
Agree Amol’s ‘explanation’ isn’t very helpful as there are multiple “perfect” tenses, but I don’t really see why they don’t accept this answer due to choosing an incorrect tense, but accept the Italian answer, which was further away from the English translation imo. Amol did say he wanted the sense of the quote.
Despard reminds me of a young James Hunt.
Great thanks for capacity to watch a game.
Thank you.
Poor Gray, he was so nervous that his French pronunciations sounded kind of butchered. He knew the answers though!
shaking like a shitting dog
Yep, I noticed that too. Le Petit Prince sounded like Le Petit Prawns and Saint-Saëns like Sans Sense.
Thank you!
Can’t believe they didn’t get Edinburgh
Welcome Oscar‼︎
Fred Weasley in the house!
Hello again! This game was notable in that both team captains were non-Britons. Don't know if I've ever seen that before, certainly not recently. The winners of this match were never in doubt. The losing team made a game of it in the middle, but the winning team more than met the challenge. The only question was if the losing team could score at least 125 to have a chance to come back. My best to both teams, and to each individual
This is not the first time there has been a translation picture round. Is it to much to ask that students with a well rounded education should know another language?
There are a lot of languages.
Q: What do you call someone who knows only one language?
A: American
By the by, apologies. This was ment as a reply to a comment further down, not as an individual comment.
Semi bilingual@@grimftl
@@grimftl an awful lot of Americans know more than one language
Austin TX represented on UC!! Go Colfax!!
Congrats to the winners & thanks to CP.
Exeter Oxford hasn't been viddying the old films.
Hydrogen peroxide
The person who doesn't know the difference between "composed for" and "dedicated to", rejects an answer based on a verb form? It's not the first instance of misinformation in the questions. I was sure we'll hear Schosti in this music round.
*Shosti
Has anyone appeared in more than one series? Given you are at university at least 3 years unless the rules prevent it, surely somebody would?
I certainly hope Exeter’s Gray will.
The show rules explicitly forbid appearing in multiple series. Having said that, Ian Bayley managed to get on for Imperial and Balliol, Oxford ~20-25 years ago.
@@PS-vm3we Agree. Exeter's Gray deserves to come back
@@thomashart6166That must be appearing as in being shown on screen because one of this series’ players was a reserve last year.
@PS-vm3we Oh yeah, you can be a reserve and show up again (e.g. me). But unless you get famous enough to do the Christmas show, or the producers decide to do an All-Stars series; if your team gets knocked out, that's it, you're done.
I got 14 correct which is not bad I think .
❤
This match almost hurt sometimes.... (too slow?)... As always, someone, somewhere is always shouting an answer... here: PASCAL!!!!, one, because in school that was in one of the "Baldor's" books and we suffered GREATLY with them... and two and mainly... this is University Challenge... IT'S ALWAYS PASCAL!!!, I've watched this show for years... you hear/read french and mathematics, it's PASCAL, it's *ALWAYS* PASCAL!!!! xD (Ok, maybe not always but the amount of times it has been Pascal..... =P )
If Despard needs to be so democratic, they need a quick signal for agreement to go with the suggestion.
Cambridge got this in the bag...
why do english people always pronounce the french 'in' like the french 'en' (7:38 - let petit prence)
Mayan is not an ethnic group, it's an identity that allows distinctive peoples to present themselves as a unity. I know many indigenous Guatemalans who do not consider themselves Mayan but Quiche, Kaqchikel, etc.
Well done Cambridge
Oi. Spoiler Alert!
Spoiler barrier
Firman looks Indonesian (not to mention the name), but I might be wrong. Not surprised since there's tons of Indonesian descendants there though
And the significance of that is?
@@PS-vm3we just an observation
@@ElFacilHero ...It's not enough to say 'just an observation'. You could have asked the same question about a number of the contestants here. Who cares what his or others' origins are? Think before you write.
@@robertknight2556 i'm an Indonesian, that's why it was interesting to me.
@@ElFacilHero ....Well, that's rather put me in my place, hasn't it? Perhaps, merely, as a counter-argument, you could have made it clear that you were Indonesian yourself in making your point. Still, I shouldn't have jumped in so vigorously. Robert, uk.
A frequency of opera related questions that's slightly more proportionate to its cultural relevance would be nice.
What a horribly stupid first picture round. Questions needed some work.
The translation exercise is completely impossible and totally goes against the spirit of the show. Asking four different people for instantaneous translations - the work of which takes professionals a long time to complete and does not lend itself to consensus -- and then nitpicking their grammar and meaning after they've had ten seconds to confer is subjective, mean spirited and cruel. I'm sure question setters and show consultants read these comments and I want to make it clear that we don't ever want to see that nonsense on this show again. Come up with a new stunt, because this one isn't it.
I found it quite fun and the translations were pretty straightforward to be honest, I had no issues with any of them
While I don’t feel as strongly about it, that set of questions _did_ strike me as an odd departure from the type of questions generally asked on the show.
Couldn't disagree more. It was perfectly possible to work out the required approximte, it wasn't exactly asking them to translate from Slavic, Arabic, Chinese or the like. And Amol was quite lenient with the German as the verb was specifically "answered" or "replied". English already has so many words derived from Germanic, Greek and Latin/Romance languages, and as academics they are indeed expected to have some knowledge of these and of etymology and use their reasoning and imagination.
Some people have memorised The Little Prince.
It’s not completely impossible because they got most of the answers. It might be aptly termed “challenging”.
14:46 Mount Everest is the highest here in Nepal. Are this westerners trying to sway just like they did with Lord Buddha.
the border between Nepal and China divides Everest
'According to the Buddhist tradition, Gautama was born in Lumbini, now in modern-day Nepal, and raised in Kapilavastu. The exact site of ancient Kapilavastu is unknown. It may have been either Piprahwa, Uttar Pradesh, in present-day India, or Tilaurakot, in present-day Nepal.' You have to think about the lack of national states during the time of Buddha, which is to say, the 5th or 6th century BCE. Surely, the teachings of Buddha are not relevant to actual places. I'm not sure who these 'Westerners' are that you speak of.
i love gray
@@kimcastro7300 as a hue? Or a shade of black?