United Airlines Boeing 787-9 Diverts To Chicago O'Hare After Pilot Displays Go Dark

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
  • Passengers onboard a late-September United Airlines flight between Los Angeles and London Heathrow were unexpectedly diverted to Chicago O'Hare. As reported by the Aviation Herald, the captain's displays went blank as the flight management computers entered a degraded mode.
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  • @SimpleFlyingNews
    @SimpleFlyingNews  День тому +17

    CORRECTION: The map at 0:20 should have shown a path from LAX to LHR. LAS was incorrectly entered into the map generator.

    • @fahque635
      @fahque635 День тому +1

      We at LAS made it in a video!

    • @Tpr_1808
      @Tpr_1808 День тому

      @@fahque635 never again😭

  • @MkurugenziMwenyekiti
    @MkurugenziMwenyekiti 2 дні тому +52

    And at 2:00 the primary video display entered into a degraded state.

    • @Reaz741
      @Reaz741 День тому +1

      LOL😂😂😂

  • @StormFanatic210
    @StormFanatic210 2 дні тому +40

    ORD and IAH have all the Maintenance Facilities that United could ever need. Diverting to one of those two Airports if safe to do so, is the best decision to make.

  • @sainnt
    @sainnt 2 дні тому +19

    Most airlines, given a choice, will prefer to fly to the nearest hub, because they can usually get a replacement aircraft to continue the trip.

    • @brad9529
      @brad9529 День тому +1

      Yes, saving them money. It shouldn't be allowed.

    • @Michael_K_Woods
      @Michael_K_Woods День тому

      @@brad9529no dopey, it saves the passengers time and money. If I’m 24 hours late to my checkin the hotel isn’t giving me a free extra day.

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt День тому +1

      ​@@brad9529It's actually better for passengers, because flying to such a big airport means they will have plenty of flights to be rebooked to, and the airline has the infrastructure to get the aircraft back in the air.
      If they don't believe they can get the aircraft back they would never attempt it.

    • @brad9529
      @brad9529 День тому

      @sainnt yeah, it's definitely more convenient for everyone. However, it's a dangerous risk. Flights have crashed from doing such things.
      I'd personally rather be inconvenienced than risk dying.

    • @sainnt
      @sainnt День тому +1

      @@brad9529 That's not true, at least not with modern airliners. Most pilots know what to do. A couple of years ago, an Emirates A380 en route to New Zealand turned around halfway there and went back to Dubai. At first it seems ridiculous, but it's better for everyone for them to put those passengers in another A380 and not only get those passengers to their destination safely, but also be able to pick up all the passengers coming back.
      No pilot will risk their own life just to save an airline money.

  • @nonsibisedipsi6812
    @nonsibisedipsi6812 День тому +7

    It makes perfect sense. Especially since ORD is a maintenance hub. Also, on your map, you put LAS, which is Las Vegas.

    • @SimpleFlyingNews
      @SimpleFlyingNews  День тому +1

      Yes thanks for letting us know. We’ve pinned a comment to highlight the error and correction.

  • @Tpr_1808
    @Tpr_1808 2 дні тому +20

    Los Angeles is LAX. UA doesn't have a hub in Vegas

  • @Tina-d8f
    @Tina-d8f 2 дні тому +13

    Makes sense to navigate to a maintenance hub if possible.

  • @reubenmorris487
    @reubenmorris487 2 дні тому +7

    The first officer's PFD/ND were obviously still functional, along with the ISFD, and navigation. We don't really know why the displays "degraded" or malfunctioned; you'd have to wait for the reports to come out. The pilots did the best thing and got the jet and everybody to ORD safely.

  • @raghavannatarajan5320
    @raghavannatarajan5320 23 години тому

    The pilots cleverness saved the life of entire passengers. God bless him for timely action.

  • @thepenmen22
    @thepenmen22 2 дні тому +25

    I had a similar experience, but instead our captain decided to land right away, and it was a huge mess. Story time:
    We flew from Asia and had a connection from Amsterdam to Detroit. As we entered North America, pilots said our left engine's anti ice was not working, and with the weather above north eastern US, they couldn't continue due to risk of ice entering the engine. So they landed right away at Happy Valley Goose Bay, somewhere in north east Canada. Had the plane at least entered the US, we could have done customs and flew back on some other US carrier. But instead, we were stuck on a military base for several hours, with no customs, and no plane to take us back. We had to wait for another A330 to arrive, but when it did, the new pilots timed out on their duty day. So we had to sit on the plane for several more hours. Passengers were screaming and it was a bad experience for everyone. Then Delta decided to ask the Canadian military to allow us to sleep for a few hours at their barracks, which they did after deplaning us very slowly and checking our documents. The next day, another smaller plane arrived with Delta representatives, plenty of food was given to us there in the morning. Then we finally flew to Detroit. Had the pilot entered the US, it might have been a lot smoother for us. Do I think the pilot did the right thing even if it caused that much chaos? Likely yes in the chance of an engine failure, but wow was it a mess. Delta refunded our tickets and also gave us another free trip.

    • @alphadiallo1655
      @alphadiallo1655 День тому

      At least you made it home. Better than forcing and be in trouble..

  • @wshnus
    @wshnus День тому +4

    I think the pilot made the right decision to fly to Chicago, as long as the plane can continue to fly, I don't think that's an issue. If they divert to Canada the logistics will be a chaos, they need to find a plane to ferry the passengers and that will take a while. In Chicago, that's their hub so it will be much easier to find another aircraft and crew.

  • @HenriqueCarneiroM
    @HenriqueCarneiroM День тому +1

    The decision to divert back to O'Hare makes total sense to me as a pilot, though an emergency was declared it was not a critical situation...Operationally speaking: O'Hare is a major United hub and you'd have all the company's infrastructure to provide maintenance to the aircraft and to the customers, if they went off base (which should be considered if the situation required of course), that could become a major costly hurdle the airline.

  • @storminnormin4651
    @storminnormin4651 2 дні тому +7

    Pilots did the right thing after it was determined that they COULD make it to ORD safely. Which is the name of the game. UNITED pilots are well trained and seasoned, they have my utmost respect and confidence.

  • @dasmellyyooper
    @dasmellyyooper 2 дні тому +7

    What would have been closer that could have handled a 787? Not just one, but 2? Minneapolis, Winnipeg? Neither have super large presences from United. Plus it would have been contracted MX for diagnostics and a road crew for repair, hotels for the passengers and crew, and needing to find a new crew. The crew didn't feel the need to get down quickly then be AOG, so they chose the best option. ORD has everything they need to get back to the skies ASAP

    • @ronparrish6666
      @ronparrish6666 2 дні тому +1

      Winnipeg and Calgary can handle the aircraft with air Canada same as a few years ago United flight going over to Europe had a emergency stop in Toronto when the pilot spilled his coffee over the instruments and Air Canada fixed it in Toronto they can handle United aircraft

    • @eamonahern7495
      @eamonahern7495 День тому +1

      ​@ronparrish6666 the lack of punctuation makes your comment difficult to read

    • @ndirangugichuki6260
      @ndirangugichuki6260 День тому

      ​@@eamonahern7495no it's not

    • @shannondoidgemedium
      @shannondoidgemedium 21 годину тому

      Toronto was much closer. Also Winnipeg has an airport that can handle a 787-9.

  • @TomCarter-s8s
    @TomCarter-s8s 2 дні тому +6

    Smart to go to hub, maint. & available 787 to continue

  • @MichaelM-uw3mk
    @MichaelM-uw3mk 2 дні тому +21

    Map is wrong. This is like the 4th video I've seen where the map is wrong.

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 23 години тому

    Thank you for sharing this incident.😊

  • @alooga555
    @alooga555 2 дні тому +1

    In the back of the DC-8 cockpit, there was a work desk for an aviator and a small “skylight” on the ceiling for astronomical observations. It allowed the navigator to determine the plane's current location by inserting a sextant into the skylight and observing the stars and the sun.

  • @CogitoTesting
    @CogitoTesting 2 дні тому +12

    Mayday means you land at the nearest airport. Assuming your hub is not the nearest airport and then fly all the way to your hub after declaring mayday makes no sense.

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому

      Was it a mayday, or Pan Pan Pan?

    • @nachoman2
      @nachoman2 2 дні тому +1

      @@jantjarks7946 it was a mayday

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому

      @@nachoman2 Thx!

    • @flywithjohn
      @flywithjohn 2 дні тому +2

      What makes no sense is landing at the nearest suitable airport for a loss of navigation capability and stranding the passengers at a small candidate outstation that doesn’t have the appropriate passenger handling facilities. Pilots can declare an emergency and cancel the emergency based on the current status of what’s happening. The airplane was safe and perfectly capable of going to ORD. It took an intermediate international destination out of the matrix. It meant not dumping fuel. And there was appropriate passenger handling facilities. It was a good decision.

    • @CogitoTesting
      @CogitoTesting День тому

      @@flywithjohn Mayday is NOT a joke. Declaring mayday means saving the lives of passengers and crew become the ultimate priority; landing at the nearest airport accomplishes just that. In that context, passengers inconveniences become an after-thought.

  • @paulm1365
    @paulm1365 2 дні тому +2

    If they lost two screens they still have three, plus their HUD’s, plus their back up instruments.

  • @angelavanhorn2325
    @angelavanhorn2325 22 години тому

    I was little concern going to Chicago, (past) however, O'Hare have great services and good citizen there. I was proud of OHare airport ...

  • @kedricjackson2299
    @kedricjackson2299 День тому

    The Pilots made a good decision. MAYDAY! All safety and focus are on this particular plane. Navigation did not start with digital components. Great job, United Pilots!

  • @jamesx4952
    @jamesx4952 2 дні тому +4

    Isn’t this the second time the displays when blank on the 787 this year I think a Latam 787 had the same problem

    • @DustinPearce2957
      @DustinPearce2957 2 дні тому +1

      Which one though? Is it the one who got devastated with the crazy turbulence or is it different flight?

    • @SimonButler
      @SimonButler 2 дні тому

      From what I understand, you have to cycle the FMCs every 21 days or something or this degraded mode can happen. It's not great that it's required, but it's a known issue and easy to avoid if it's tracked on the maintenance log.

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 День тому +4

      You might be thinking of the LATAM 787 that had a sudden descent while in cruise. We later found out that was a result of a flight attendant leaning on the back of the pilot’s seat and engaging the seat control that pushed the pilot forward into the yoke.

    • @DustinPearce2957
      @DustinPearce2957 День тому +3

      @@FlyByWire1 Yup, that's the one.

    • @FlyByWire1
      @FlyByWire1 17 годин тому

      @@DustinPearce2957 yep, I’m pretty sure the FAA just issued a global directive for 787 operators to replace cockpit seats where the switch covering has come off and the seat control switch is exposed.

  • @nathanlembke9026
    @nathanlembke9026 2 дні тому +4

    Not the first time it’s happened to Airbus A320s too

    • @IrnBruXtra
      @IrnBruXtra День тому

      Lufthansa and South African Airlines have put more A340-600s back into service to replace A320 and Boeings. If you are from the USA could Yellowstone Caldera be releasing toxic chemicals into the atmosphere causing engine and computer problems?

    • @mcmuffin-z5v
      @mcmuffin-z5v День тому

      @@IrnBruXtra tf are you saying

  • @wickedpawn5437
    @wickedpawn5437 2 дні тому +6

    Isn't this the same thing that happened to the Latam 787 pilots mid-air on the way to Australia?

    • @mmm0404
      @mmm0404 2 дні тому +5

      That's what they said , but that's not actually what happened. The pilot seat was mistakenly adjusted into the flight controls , causing the aircraft to dive. Nothing went blank

  • @seagullsbtn
    @seagullsbtn 2 дні тому +2

    @ 2:00 in video you have a disruption in the video and audio quality. Time for SF to squawk 7700.

  • @kimsmoke17
    @kimsmoke17 13 годин тому +1

    So ok, what people don’t realize is that northern Manitoba, and northern Ontario are unpopulated. They could have landed at Churchill, Manitoba, population 1000. The runway in Churchill is 9200 feet, but what do you do with the PAX? Have them Sleep on the plane, or in cots in CAF barracks/hangers? North Bay Ontario has a 10,000 ft runway, but same issue. That far north, there are no other runways that could accept the aircraft. Winnipeg, MB has two long runways, and has an air Canada line maintenance hanger, but the techs there may not know the type…. If you’re already safe to make it to Winnipeg, might as well get to Chicago, where United can rebook everyone quickly, and fix the airplane themselves…. It’s that simple folks.

  • @sarahivsutterb747
    @sarahivsutterb747 День тому +1

    Sometimes I think it's better to have the cockpits of the old-fashioned way like that one of the Boeing 747-100 or other aircraft's like that one! I think these old-fashioned cockpits are more reliable than the new ones! Just a thought about it!

  • @nikobelic4251
    @nikobelic4251 2 дні тому +6

    Bruh everyone crapping on Boeing, this could very well be and probably was a maintenance issue not a manufacturing issue

    • @todortodorov6056
      @todortodorov6056 2 дні тому

      Nobody is pointing the finger at Boeing. But this could very well turn out to be and probably is another manufacturing issue, not a maintenance issue.

    • @nikobelic4251
      @nikobelic4251 2 дні тому +2

      @@todortodorov6056
      There are many comments here that point the finger at Boeing.
      The aircraft is 9 years old, it has gone through C check multiple times. More than likely this isn’t a manufacturing issue.

    • @greenesyt563
      @greenesyt563 День тому +1

      show me a single comment mocking Boeing for this

    • @nikobelic4251
      @nikobelic4251 День тому

      @@greenesyt563
      Watch what you wish for….
      14H ago EuropeanrailfanAlt: “I hope this isn’t Boeing’s fault because the plane is 9 years old”
      11H ago kkrsnn5632: “786 Surpriseliner”
      15H ago drjesusbalanc638: “😂 Boeing never disappoints”
      15H ago jantjarks7946: “Boeing has entered degraded mode…
      … since MDD merger 😂”
      9H ago MrHav1K: “Oh great, ANOTHER problem with Boeing. Lmao…”
      15H ago shoutyshouty: “Boeing Taking dark mode to the extreme”
      6H ago paintedpony2935: “If it’s Boeing I’m not going”
      Shall I continue? Because I have more.

    • @ndirangugichuki6260
      @ndirangugichuki6260 День тому

      ​@@greenesyt563Exactly, I haven't read any

  • @markusknight
    @markusknight 2 дні тому

    This same aircraft was also involved in another incident recently. On Jul 12, the landing gear failed to retract and was forced to return to JNB quickly after takeoff.

  • @zia786786
    @zia786786 День тому +1

    Question isn’t why they diverted to ORD. Question is the mayday call

  • @平和-v1z
    @平和-v1z 2 дні тому +4

    Very informative as always!

    • @tedsmart5539
      @tedsmart5539 2 дні тому

      NO - it's loaded with false information.

  • @LanceParadis
    @LanceParadis 2 дні тому +1

    Another Condition Completely Unhelpful To Purpose.😮

  • @karlp8484
    @karlp8484 День тому

    Is this the second time a Boeing has had a "instrument blank" happening this year? Was the other one where the plane pitched downwards because they said it was a seat problem? Irrespective of the seat thingy, the pilots reported an instrument blackout.

  • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
    @EuropeanRailfanAlt 2 дні тому +5

    I hope this isn't Boeing's fault because the plane is 9 years old

  • @ivangeo3319
    @ivangeo3319 День тому

    We have become so dependent on electricity so much that makes me fearful of 'if electricity no more ' for a time or extensive time, like after a natural disaster.

  • @bearcubdaycare
    @bearcubdaycare 2 дні тому

    Maybe it was simpler to navigate nearly due south, than some other direction, given the lack of normal instrument displays?

  • @davidkavanagh189
    @davidkavanagh189 День тому

    Look on the bright side. At least Americans are learning how to say Mayday. Baby steps!

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan4992 День тому +1

    This is not a Mayday situation. It is a Pan Pan situation, serious but not life threatening as per FAA guidelines. In my opinion.

    • @mikeyriley8959
      @mikeyriley8959 День тому

      Unless there’s more to the story, I agree. But if you don’t land at your destination, you must land at your alternate. Unless you declare an emergency OR get a reanalysis from dispatch and re-release.

  • @DavidMuriuki-en7jw
    @DavidMuriuki-en7jw 2 дні тому +1

    Boeing: WHY ALWAYS ME?

  • @stevejcoop
    @stevejcoop 22 години тому

    Seems logical to fly to a service Center . Probably motivated by cost saving

  • @pettz18
    @pettz18 День тому

    doesn’t surprise me. it’s a boeing!

  • @TheBryson158
    @TheBryson158 2 дні тому

    So did the flight originate from lax or las?

  • @uzilowenthal1946
    @uzilowenthal1946 День тому

    I think that flying back to the fully technically equipped home base was correct. Re; the ma

  • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
    @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому +2

    id love to hear that one person to say ''this is the latest controversy to involve boeing planes'' when its probably united back at it with their maintenance.

    • @cameraman655
      @cameraman655 2 дні тому +1

      OK, ask and you shall receive….Just another Boeing issue, they really need to shut the company down, they’re becoming a hazard to aviation…oh, Boeing, not United.

  • @jongallant6054
    @jongallant6054 День тому

    They did the right thing landing in America.

  • @ThePrimeYeeter
    @ThePrimeYeeter 2 дні тому +5

    this is just United's maintenance fault at this point, really

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому +1

      You know that for sure because you made it up while writing.
      😂

    • @lennywallace9201
      @lennywallace9201 2 дні тому +2

      @@jantjarks7946 no its because every united flight out of california seems to be bugged

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому

      And that counts for Delta and Latam too, who had the same issue popping up?
      Let me guess, your United bias already decided what the truth has to be. Or is it a Boeing bias?
      😂

    • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
      @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому

      only latam is boeings fault..the rest is maintenance daily mail journalist.

    • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
      @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому

      in fact every flight in america seems to be.....

  • @James-bc1jk
    @James-bc1jk День тому

    How can a company kill 600 people and nothing happen

  • @qazinadeemkamal816
    @qazinadeemkamal816 День тому

    If other wise air craft was for as flying and alternate Nav tools were available and Flying Crew was well converst with those than landing at home base was ok but insted of Mayday call Priority Call could have been given.

  • @dennisodonnell1220
    @dennisodonnell1220 День тому

    Send all bills to smple flying. They will like that.

  • @PakaBubi
    @PakaBubi 2 дні тому +1

    Boeing... I was on a Qantas 787 flight from PER to LHR that was cancelled because of an issue that could not be fixed till the following day. Yeah...

  • @sqpilot63074
    @sqpilot63074 День тому

    The 787 have 6 large display which are interchangeable and when one display goes blank, you can switch the display pfd to nd or eicas from captain or FO. No danger but it’s just that United finds it easier to conduct maintenance at hub. Usually the filter gets clog because of dust get sucked in and creates blockage and overheat the display.

  • @kkrsnn5632
    @kkrsnn5632 2 дні тому +1

    786 Surpriseliner

  • @drjesubalan639
    @drjesubalan639 2 дні тому +9

    😂Boeing never disappoints

  • @brad9529
    @brad9529 День тому +1

    Bad judgement call. There could have been an unknown problem causing the issue. They should have put it down at the nearest airport, anything else is irresponsible, its all about money and Chicago would have saved them a ton of money.
    Money before safety.

  • @shoutyshouty
    @shoutyshouty 2 дні тому +6

    Boeing - Taking dark mode to the extreme.

  • @dewyakana1543
    @dewyakana1543 День тому

    Yeah, I'm never flying on any Boeing. I don't need the drama. A THREE YEAR OLD JET?

  • @Zinedine-t9n
    @Zinedine-t9n 2 дні тому

    😮

  • @Katie-c6p
    @Katie-c6p День тому

    Hail Mary.

  • @jantjarks7946
    @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому +10

    Boeing entered a degraded mode....
    ... since the MDD merger.
    😂

    • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
      @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому

      not beoings fault.maintenance

    • @jantjarks7946
      @jantjarks7946 2 дні тому

      @@AbdullahNajib-b9z I don't know, who maintains the MDD management at Boeing?
      😂

    • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
      @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому

      What is MDD management?mcdonnel douglas?they were ok,but they were a competitor,glad they were sucked in by boeing

    • @MrHav1k
      @MrHav1k 2 дні тому

      KEKW

  • @marksman875437
    @marksman875437 День тому

    Or could’ve made it to Toronto? Air Canada is a star alliance partner with maintenance facilities that could have helped the company

  • @MrHav1k
    @MrHav1k 2 дні тому +2

    Oh great, ANOTHER problem with Boeing. LMao....

  • @emypena
    @emypena День тому

    Probably due to some loose scew or missing screw....

  • @marksman875437
    @marksman875437 День тому

    Should’ve gone to Winnipeg or Edmonton

    • @mcmuffin-z5v
      @mcmuffin-z5v День тому +1

      And then how would they repair the aircraft

  • @cherifbar
    @cherifbar 2 дні тому

    I don’t trust modern Avionics or GPS. I NEVER DID AND I NEVER WILL.

  • @paintedpony2935
    @paintedpony2935 День тому

    If it's Boeing, I'm not going!

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 2 дні тому

    Should have went to 1st suitable airport. Bad call by ops. Captain Should have said no we are going here not Chicago.. what if things cascaded now you are foooked.

  • @minzawone
    @minzawone День тому

    Never ending Boeing Problems

    • @mcmuffin-z5v
      @mcmuffin-z5v День тому +1

      Never ending Boeing haters, I bet you didn’t even watch the entire video to actually understand what happened, maybe instead of being brain washed by media and actually do some independent research out of your comfort zone and you’ll find that this happens on both airbus and Boeing aircraft and it’s actually happened more on airbus don’t form an opinion from media bias.

  • @pruthvipurohit4864
    @pruthvipurohit4864 2 дні тому

    Again Boeing 😂😂😂

  • @Patrickair4444
    @Patrickair4444 2 дні тому

    Ontario is a state

    • @TimBoulton-zd2dw
      @TimBoulton-zd2dw 2 дні тому +6

      No it isn't, it's a province.

    • @thomasnorb4077
      @thomasnorb4077 2 дні тому

      "Canada has ten provinces and three territories".

    • @hughofIreland
      @hughofIreland 2 дні тому

      Not yet; it’s our largest national park.

    • @AbdullahNajib-b9z
      @AbdullahNajib-b9z 2 дні тому +1

      isnt this like.....completely off topic?

    • @niteowlification
      @niteowlification 2 дні тому

      @@AbdullahNajib-b9z Who cares ? I love talking about Canada.

  • @kevinwong1988
    @kevinwong1988 2 дні тому

    As if Boeing doesn't have enough problem in their hand already.

  • @fredericmarohn-bh4qr
    @fredericmarohn-bh4qr День тому

    More Boeing aircrafts A COFFIN GOING SOMEPLACE TO CRASH GO AIRBUS❤❤

  • @niteowlification
    @niteowlification 2 дні тому

    This was not a life and death emergency.

  • @MeaHeaR
    @MeaHeaR День тому

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