Great Video. Personally I feel like Etemon's Mega would be KingEtemon. It's been shown in some things that Datamon and Etemon can DNA digivolve into MetalEtemon and I theorize that that's what happened with MetalEtemon in Adventure.
Honestly, when they showed NeoDevimon's mask breaking in Adventure 2020, I genuinely thought he was going to turn into Piedmon. The way the mask broke and the way the eyes were glowing...
Okay hear me out, it would be so cute if Arukenimon and Mummymon evolved into Beelstarmon and Beelzemon, specially if their Champion forms are Witchmon and Wizardmon (as a common Beelzemon Champion is Wizardmon). It would also fit the fact that Witchmon hates Wizardmon and sees him as her rival, and Beelstarmon also hates Beelzemon and thinks he's too serious. It would immortalize perfectly these 02 villains.
Throw all the tamers from season1, 2, 3 and finally 5, InTo season4 @@Karn_EX I wanna see them all SpiritDigivolve with the spirits of their partner DigiMon's at every different level. That would be enough for an entire series if you went partner Human, and did a bonus episode at the end with the extra characters that weren't MainCharacters. Ryu and a bunch from season 5 would havta be done in that finally/encore episode.
I always thought it would be fun if Machinedramon started out as an Agumon too, as kind of a dark parallel to Tai's. A line of Agumon - Tyrannomon - Metaltyrannomon/Megadramon - Machinedramon would both show that mechanical corruption slowly taking over, as well as making reference to Tyrannomon being the kind of "original champion" for Agumon. Also definitely think we should bring back the Cherrymon from DW1 for Puppetmon's ultimate 😂
This is why I’m so sad that the Machinedramon that becomes Millenniummon in 2020 is just a mindless machine, it would’ve been so cool and poignant if it had been another Agumon to parallel our Agumon almost becoming a Machinedramon himself earlier in the show.
This was my thought watching the video and could you imagine if there was another agumon they befriended but he just got forced down a dark path and became machinedramon filled with hate towards Taichi and his agumon because of their friendship and feeling like they abandoned him.
I do feel that demidevimon -> devimon -> myotismon -> piedmon was probably intended at the time the show was made. We didn't have any of the more direct evolutions for devimon or myotismon. And it seems thematically interesting to have the villains be a string of evolutions for the same guy, except they're actually separate people. Thats a cool twist! And keeps the sense of escalation for the threat level throughout the plot. Idk it'd be like if every rival Ash ever faced had different members of the Charizard line.
To be fair here, he is less of an actual Digimon and more of an amalgamation of the resentment of digimon that died a(in their mind) unjustified death so you could say he technically has all of the pre-evolutions under his belt.
I know there is no "cannon" evolution in digimon but I never understood why Gigadramon isn't used for Machinedramon more often (he doesn't even have evo lines on wikis), he has that purple rotting vibe of OG Metal Greymon, and has more metalic parts. On a side note, Skull Greymon is also (at least IMO) a nice choice for Machinedramon, they have same posture/shape, and you could see someone just adding metal plates on top of Skull Greymon to make it more tanky, the only thing that would physically change is that you'd need to get rid of the horn.
There are enough similarities between the two that I wouldn't be surprised if Machinedramon was designed as a mechanized SkullGreymon from the beginning. You've got the long arms, the prominent lower jaw, the short tail, and the significantly bent knees. They both even have projectile weapons on their back.
I know that's the usual, but was curious if there was an alternate view since some media links Apocalymon with Millenniummon, presence in the card game, the other random previous forms that have been give ln over the years
I do like the idea of Raremon as an Apocalymon champion, but it's tricky otherwise because Rareraremon didn't exist yet, and there aren't really any other garbage digimon that aren't treated as comic relief.
SkullSatamon as Devimon's next digivolution works great. I always thought it's appearance in V-Tamer was a small Adventure nod (Devimon and Ogremon jogressing similar to how Devimon absorbed Orgemon in the anime)
I actually think for adventure specifically, Arukenimon would likely evolve from Dokugumon and Kunemon or Dokunemon keeping with the bug theme, but I really do like Witchmon and Wizardmon as a duo and it might explain the witch theming of her human form. It is odd we never got a Mega that really follows the spider or Arachne theme though. Maybe liberator will give us a character with Arukenimon as a partner and we can get a fresh line like they did for Shellmon getting Sangomon, Marinebullmon and Ryugumon
When I was a kid, I thought that PicoDevimon from Adventure that was Vamdemon’s henchman was the same Devimon defeated by Angemon’s sacrifice reborn from a digitama. But, he was severely weakened having lost. That’s why I thought he was always messing with the Chosen Children. And him being Vamdemon’s henchman was kind of like a punishment for having failed.
I like having Alraumon as Puppetmon's rookie. I like the idea of a plant becoming a tree to a older tree than finally a puppet. I always imagine Metalgreymon (virus) was the utlimate/perfect level for Machinedramon as well.
It's never happened in any official materials, But I love Pipismon as the Myotismon Champion. It's a bat, the colors match, & even the fact that it's the Patamon Love armor is perfect. It's not quite period accurate, coming out in 2000, but It's too good to pass up. Then the rookie would probably be Tsukaimon. It's not even fully unprecedented as it fuses with Dagomon to VenomMyotismon in World Dawn & Dusk I also love the idea of DemiDevimon becoming Beelzamon. Then if we're not being period accurate anyway, may as well use Baalmon
For similar reasoning, my preference is Vilemon as a Myotismon Champion. Especially since Myotismon hates the VenomMyotismon form due to it being ugly looking, it makes it seem like Myotismon is trying to maintain a fake image of itself when it's actually more bat-like.
One digimon that was missed is Parrotmon from the Prequil film, it also geta referenced in Adventure by Young Gennai as they were exploting what happened before the current digi destined came to the digital world
13:08 This is now my head cannon for the versions that show up in Tamers. 13:16 I actually have always liked the idea of Tyrannomon to MetalGrey Virus, if only to get that OG Tyrannomon rep into a Black MetalGreymon line as was part of the OG V-Pets.
9:07 Nice, Discotek, the company that licenses so many things that interest me, and does them so well, that it's the only physical media company I make sure to keep track of.
Thank you for all you do and all the effort you make on your videos. Enjoy the subject matter and getting to learn more than just the original anime showed. Never got into the card game as a kid and only played the PS1 game Digimon world. So thanks for the knowledge and unique takes!
This was a good video and here is my thoughts on the main Villian Digitalution lines 1, Tsukimon to Devimon to NeoDevimon or Skullsatamon to Deamon 2, Chumon to Sukumon to Etamon to Metaletamon 3, Demidevimon to Vilemon to Myotismon to VenomMyotismon to Malomyotismon 6, Shakamon to Seadramon to MegaSeadramon to Metalseadramon to separate it from Michael’s Betamon 7, Mushromon to Woodmon to Cherrymon to Puppetmon 8, Agumon to Darktyranomon to Megadramon to Machinedramon 9, Candlemon to Bakamon to Phantomon to Piedmon 10, Kuramon to Krysalimon to Infermon to Diaboramon to Armagedamon 11, Dokunamon to Dukugamon to Arukenimon to MutentLilithmon 12, Ghostmon to Wizardmon to Mummymon to Pharohmon 13, Black Agumon to Blue/ Virusgreymon to VirusMetalGreymon to Blackwargreymon 14, Dorumon to Reptidramon to Gladimon to Alphamon.
The fact that viral Metal Greymon doesn't become Machindramon is criminal. The culmination of the full mechanization fits, not to mention they share half the same parts.
yknow im probably the only one who sees it but Neodevimon always had a sort of redeemed villain feel to me, ive never seen the manga it originated from so maybe im close or way way off, i would love it if a villainous devimon or other demonic digimon gets redeemed but instead of becoming more angellic or good it keeps it's evil look but morphs it from just straight evil to more just an aggressive personality
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Especially with how well your Piedmon line works out, it would be cool if a Digimon antagonist evolved and grew as a threat over an entire series (kinda like a slowburn version of Impmon going from a nuisance to a full-on villain as Beelzemon.)
For mugendramon I've always like the idea of it starting out as a tyranomon, then metaltyranomon, then mugendramon. I love the idea of it starting organic then throwing away it's organics in pursuit of power.
6:37 You brilliant man you caught me before I could pause the video and comment mentioning that Dracmon -> Sangloupmon -> Myotismon is the evolution chain in Digimon Survive (love that game btw). 8:52 To be fair it was made truly known in 02 that the Devimon destroyed by Angemon didn't digivolve to Myotismon, as he appeared in the Dark Whirlpool, so you don't have to stress to much about that bro. 9:32 To be fair when mentioning Krysalimon, you could've mentioned how they appeared in Digimon Tamers originally getting destroyed by Beelzemon when he was at his peak, and then attacking him together when he was weakened from Gallantmon. When Calumon used Shining Digivolution the Krysalimon warp digivolved to Diaboromon.
I think it could be fun to have Devidramon or DarkTyrannomon to Gigadramon to Machinedramon. ToyAgumon as the Rookie, I like the idea of it being a Digimon built from something peaceful and fun falling to darkness and gradually rebuilding itself as a machine for war and destruction.
It's been a long time since I watched Adventure so it's probably just some kind of misremembering, but it was always in my head that Devimon reincarnated into Myotismon after being beaten by Angemon.
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While I know that the Devimon from File Island doesn't become Myotismon, I think it'd be funnier if he did, I also think they should've just kept bringing Myotismon back for things like Tri, Kizuna, etc., because I think it'd be funny and they can't leave Adventure alone anyways, why not just own up to it and have the most well known villain return over and over again.
my head cannon is thet the demidevimon that works for myotismon is resurrected form of the devimon from the file island ofcourse that means he open the egg and whent trough the baby forms way faster than patamon did cause they died at the same time
Kuwagamon seems to always be the first one to appear when something happens (he was the first enemy in the digital world, he showed up when the digital world opened up to the human world, and he showed up again near the start of Last Evolution) so I feel he's a bit more than a "monster of the week"
It would be kinda cool if Machinedramon was actually born from multiple pieces of fallen machine/cyborg digimon, so it parallels with the birth of Kimeramon. ... Speaking of which, Millenniummon should technically also be here, even if he was just a cameo and a flashback/nod to the wonderswan games.
@@saxor96I think the tamer Clause is the thing preventing millenniummon here, cuz of ryo technically having him as a partner in monodramon. I'd say millenniummon's post ryo evolution line is monodra-strikedra-cyberdra-machinedra-millenniummon trio
I had an idea for a potential future video: what would a Lucemon Digivolution line look like if it redeemed itself? Rather than becoming Lucemon Falldown Mode and then Lucemon Satan Mode, what if Lucemon sided with the protagonists against an existential threat and had a custom Digivolution line that at least wasn't evil? For example, Lucemon Priest Mode as a Champion.
I think instead of having Mummymon and Arukenimon digivolve to mega separately, it'd be interesting to explore what they would become if they DNA digivolved together. Maybe they could even have a couple different forms they switch between depending on which is more forward, similar to the Paildramon/Dinobeemon situation. I'd introduce their DNA digivolution when the battle moves to the real world and eventually be the catalyst that prompts Genai to help Paildramon digivolve to Imperialdramon the first time.
I love the lines chosen, I would suggest instead of doing monster of the week maybe just do major henchmen of the villains, Ogremon for Devimon, Phantomon for Myotismon, Scorpiomon for Metalseadramon, Mega/gigadramon for Machinedramon, Cherrymon for Puppetmon, and Ladydevimon for Piedmon. I know some of these are kind of already been covered for other lines.
My head canon when I was a kid, was definitely Devimon digivolving into myotismon and then piedmon. I thought it was nice symmetry between the protagonists powering up. Obviously they were different characters but I thought it was fun as a child
Man, if they went with the route that Myotismon and Piedmon were just evolutions of the original Devimon that was beaten by Angemon, that would have been a cool idea. One of the first major villains being a depowered Dark Master that just REFUSES to die and tries to get vengeance for being so handily beaten would have been really cool. Would also better facilitate why Piedmon was arguably the most dangerous of the Dark Masters (at least I think he was). Still, really interesting video. Can't wait for whatever else is getting cooked up.
piedmon was the most dangerous of the dark masters. all the others were killed by war greymon and metal garurumon basically in single combat, while piedmon was beating the shit out of both at the same time until magna angemon joined the fight.
When Tamers came out, when I saw Impmon, he looked so much like a rookie level Devimon to me. And despite the name, for me DemiDevimon is more the rookie level of Myotismon (like a child hated by his father but want to be loved).
A fun video as always. One thing I don't think Chewmon works for Etemon in the original continuity because Chewmon originally in both story, card, and games was a Digimon he was just pary of Sukamon and was only made his own Digimon later on. As neither card gamez series one or two or Digimon World One or Two has Chewmon listed anywhere. So Etemon I'd say would be Gazimon as they were all around Etamon, then Sukamon, followed by Etemon.
Not necessarily related but im aware but i just have to put it out there doctor mummymon from ghost game should definitely have sorcermon as his champion it just feels so right at least to me On a more related note wizardmon for 02 mummymon works i mean hes really not all that evil so i think itd be cute to see a wizardmon whos silly and goofy and hey maybe the shyness the species is described with could play in imagine arukenimon and mummymon both devolved as wizardmon and witchmon and wizardmon hides behind witchmon and kinda just tries to do as hes told because he feels much less confident when devolved
I theorize that since Angemon came back, so did Devimon in the same moment and he ultimately becomes myotismon then venomyotismon during the warp digivolving arc. It's just too perfect to think they fight him as devimon, then VMmon, Apocalypsemon then Malo and then same thing if he's in digimon Tri.
I kinda felt like all the villains were monsters of the week. Even if it was a recurring character it still usually felt very monster of the week specifically because they don't have full evolution lines except for Diaboramon who did actually have a full evolution line. That's part of why Frontier is my favorite season because the main villains can actually evolve using different spirits just like the protagonists so they actually feel like proper villains not just the monster of the week.
For Machinadramon, I quite like the Cyber Sleuth's line of: Hagurumon - Guardromon - Datamon - Machinadragon My logic is they're all machines and all viruses - so the "evil" component remains consistent
Karn, one of your next videos could be: "10 evolutionary lines mixing Digimon and Appmon", making lines as cohesive as possible and making 5 of them reach Appmons God tier and the other 5 in Mega Digimons
Interesting enough, in the Digimon movie Keramon warped digivolved to Infermon, then in Tamers a group of Chrysalimon merged/warped digivolved to Diaboromon.
Deemon is such an unserious name I love it. Spoilers for Kinnikuman, but its revealed very late that the god of the choujin (superhumans who usually have a name ending in "-man") is just named The Man.
Thumbs up for calling Demon by proper name and not that ridiculous dub name. : 3 10:30 ...Agreed. I did not feel like Parasimon worked for Arukenimon. But Mutant Lilithmon really worked well (I also like option where Withmon becomes Red LadyDevimon and from there Mutant Lilithmon. For Mummymon, I kinda like Soulmon as pre-evo personally. Yes, I know it is just a Bakemon with witch hat.)
10:40 i imagine the mega level of arukenimon would be called moiraemon, and appears as a digimon who looks like a red spider with teh upper body of a a six armed woman on top, dressed in red with blue skin and a third face on her stomach and wielding a red thread on one side and a pair spindle's distaff, measuring rod and pair of shears on each hand on the other side. the choices for this design is based on the greek mythological crature arachne, which arukinemon is based on, and mostly the moirae sisters, AKA the three fates, who come from greek mythology. for those who are interested on who is who, clotho: the sister who spins everyone's red thread of fate from her spindle lachesis: the sister who measures everyone's red thread of fate with a measuring rod atropos: the one who cuts a persons red thread of fate at the end of their lifes with her shears
on the subject of evolution, I've always wondered what the twelve deva would digivolve into if they ever needed to step in and take the place of one of the sovereign digimon, especially if the designs were influenced by whichever sovereign they were replacing
You say obviously not the same DemiDevimon, but he wasn't Devimon's minion, and personally I always liked the idea that it was actually the same Digimon reborn. It has been a while, but I'm pretty sure DemiDevimon doesn't appear until after Tai and Agumon go to the human world and back, learning of the massive time difference in the process (at least I'm sure he's most active after that, since he targets the kids when they're separated). That gives him time to be reborn and evolve up to Rookie stage, and would be a great parallel with Patamon also reincarnating.
I always lean into the theory about the Daemon Corps. being revived Demon Lords, so I do see Tsukaimon-Devimon, I always forget the Ultimate, but always end on Daemon, so SkullSatamon doesn't really work for me, him rather going into Barbamon, what with the staff! I also always lean into the Witchelny aspect for Piedmon as I understand that that is where he learned all of his little tricks and what have you that he pulled in the Animé, like turning everyone into keyrings, so Wizardmon, I feel, ought to be his Champion, again, I forget his Ultimate! Of course, a lot of this comes from all that Digimon Lore I caught up on during lockdown, especially when I wanted to know who all the Demon Lords actually were, going into it convinced that Diaboromon was one!
I really enjoy the idea of the adventure continuity just using one line for the major villians, so DemiDevimon -> Devimon -> Myotismon (Vamdevimon) -> Piedmon -> Apocalymon
I had a thought while watching this. When you was talking about mummymon and arukenimon why not have there mega be a jogress would be really cool to see like a spider mummy digimon or something like that.
Though not cronologically viable, I always thought that there was potential in Arukenimon to Lilithmon X-antibody. Though you do have to deal with the random X-antibody suddenly appearing, but visually it kinda makes sense in my mind
Honestly I could see Arukenimon having both Witchmon and Dokugumon as champions and sliding between them given she switches between her "human" form and her digimon form.
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What about Ogremon? He was an antagonist that chose to work for Devimon not by mind control and showed up multiple times. Yeah he turned good but that means he could have two evolution lines, one representing him staying evil and another for his redemption. Also Rebellimon and Titanmon didn’t exist then so there wasn’t a clear evolution path for him too to explore.
I show him during the Monster of the Week/others segment. He's not an overarching or main villain of an arc, he's a sort of rival and multiple monster of the week. He would be in that "others/MOTW" video I mentioned at the start.
@@Karn_EX I see now, sorry my bad, I wasn’t directly watching during the explanation and didn’t see Ogremon. But what about an ally Digimon evolution video maybe? Like all the most prominent allies of each season that don’t have human partners but help the human characters still, like Bokomon and Neemon in Frontier, Callumon in Tamers, and Ogremon for Adventure to name a few examples?
I think Mummymon really needs its own dedicated. Zombiemon would have been perfect and while we have a lot of beetles already, a scarab beetle prevo would be kind of cool too
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Great Video. Personally I feel like Etemon's Mega would be KingEtemon. It's been shown in some things that Datamon and Etemon can DNA digivolve into MetalEtemon and I theorize that that's what happened with MetalEtemon in Adventure.
Oh I already did >:)
It was great ^^
Apocalymon is one you missed
Happy spooktober finale to you to Karn, you always make the best videos whenever I need them most, thank you for all your videos
@Karn_EX What if the Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica characters had DIGIMON Partners?
Honestly, when they showed NeoDevimon's mask breaking in Adventure 2020, I genuinely thought he was going to turn into Piedmon. The way the mask broke and the way the eyes were glowing...
Okay hear me out, it would be so cute if Arukenimon and Mummymon evolved into Beelstarmon and Beelzemon, specially if their Champion forms are Witchmon and Wizardmon (as a common Beelzemon Champion is Wizardmon). It would also fit the fact that Witchmon hates Wizardmon and sees him as her rival, and Beelstarmon also hates Beelzemon and thinks he's too serious. It would immortalize perfectly these 02 villains.
Yeah for a non-time period accurate set that'd be awesome
Wizardmon's a champion tho???
Wizardmon and Witchmin are Champions not rookies
My bad haha!
For next year you should give the Dark Masters custum "Ultra Level" Evolutions.
Definitely a contender :)
@@Karn_EXGigaseadramon already exists.
Chaosdramon already exists.
Puppetmon and Piedmon need one. Outside of fusions Piedmon doesn’t have one.
@@SheruMukoPuppet also got Cernumon as a jogress
Throw all the tamers from season1, 2, 3 and finally 5, InTo season4 @@Karn_EX
I wanna see them all SpiritDigivolve with the spirits of their partner DigiMon's at every different level. That would be enough for an entire series if you went partner Human, and did a bonus episode at the end with the extra characters that weren't MainCharacters. Ryu and a bunch from season 5 would havta be done in that finally/encore episode.
I know... It'd be entirely FanArt.
I always thought it would be fun if Machinedramon started out as an Agumon too, as kind of a dark parallel to Tai's. A line of Agumon - Tyrannomon - Metaltyrannomon/Megadramon - Machinedramon would both show that mechanical corruption slowly taking over, as well as making reference to Tyrannomon being the kind of "original champion" for Agumon.
Also definitely think we should bring back the Cherrymon from DW1 for Puppetmon's ultimate 😂
This is why I’m so sad that the Machinedramon that becomes Millenniummon in 2020 is just a mindless machine, it would’ve been so cool and poignant if it had been another Agumon to parallel our Agumon almost becoming a Machinedramon himself earlier in the show.
This was my thought watching the video and could you imagine if there was another agumon they befriended but he just got forced down a dark path and became machinedramon filled with hate towards Taichi and his agumon because of their friendship and feeling like they abandoned him.
Mummymon and Arukenimon becoming Jijimon and Babamon would so.... chefs kiss!
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FYI: This is Karn's 420th (public) episode. Time to get high and dark digivolve.
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Don't you mean "dank" digivolve?
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@@Karn_EX Petition to have Dank Digivolutions for a video next April!
A 2-hour long video?
Yes please!
*but only if you actually want to. I imagine that would be hell to make*
Haha yeah it'd take a while
@@Karn_EXDo it please.
@@Karn_EXI’ll pencil it into my calendar for next October and check back in then
here is my vote for a monster of the week full evo lines
@@Karn_EX It might make for a fun stream
I do feel that demidevimon -> devimon -> myotismon -> piedmon was probably intended at the time the show was made. We didn't have any of the more direct evolutions for devimon or myotismon. And it seems thematically interesting to have the villains be a string of evolutions for the same guy, except they're actually separate people. Thats a cool twist! And keeps the sense of escalation for the threat level throughout the plot. Idk it'd be like if every rival Ash ever faced had different members of the Charizard line.
Apocalymon! Everyone else gets pizza, but he gets the crust!
To be fair here, he is less of an actual Digimon and more of an amalgamation of the resentment of digimon that died a(in their mind) unjustified death so you could say he technically has all of the pre-evolutions under his belt.
@@shinrailp1416 Totally makes sense. I mostly just wanted to make the reference.
I know there is no "cannon" evolution in digimon but I never understood why Gigadramon isn't used for Machinedramon more often (he doesn't even have evo lines on wikis), he has that purple rotting vibe of OG Metal Greymon, and has more metalic parts. On a side note, Skull Greymon is also (at least IMO) a nice choice for Machinedramon, they have same posture/shape, and you could see someone just adding metal plates on top of Skull Greymon to make it more tanky, the only thing that would physically change is that you'd need to get rid of the horn.
Gigadramon is such an underused mon!! 😢 justice for Gigadramon!
There are enough similarities between the two that I wouldn't be surprised if Machinedramon was designed as a mechanized SkullGreymon from the beginning. You've got the long arms, the prominent lower jaw, the short tail, and the significantly bent knees. They both even have projectile weapons on their back.
Very surprised but at the same time expected that Apocalymon was forgotten. Granted, thematically this mon is hard to place
Not forgotten it's just comprised of the other Dark Masters.
I know that's the usual, but was curious if there was an alternate view since some media links Apocalymon with Millenniummon, presence in the card game, the other random previous forms that have been give ln over the years
I do like the idea of Raremon as an Apocalymon champion, but it's tricky otherwise because Rareraremon didn't exist yet, and there aren't really any other garbage digimon that aren't treated as comic relief.
SkullSatamon as Devimon's next digivolution works great. I always thought it's appearance in V-Tamer was a small Adventure nod (Devimon and Ogremon jogressing similar to how Devimon absorbed Orgemon in the anime)
I actually think for adventure specifically, Arukenimon would likely evolve from Dokugumon and Kunemon or Dokunemon keeping with the bug theme, but I really do like Witchmon and Wizardmon as a duo and it might explain the witch theming of her human form.
It is odd we never got a Mega that really follows the spider or Arachne theme though. Maybe liberator will give us a character with Arukenimon as a partner and we can get a fresh line like they did for Shellmon getting Sangomon, Marinebullmon and Ryugumon
When I was a kid, I thought that PicoDevimon from Adventure that was Vamdemon’s henchman was the same Devimon defeated by Angemon’s sacrifice reborn from a digitama. But, he was severely weakened having lost.
That’s why I thought he was always messing with the Chosen Children. And him being Vamdemon’s henchman was kind of like a punishment for having failed.
Actually i've seen that theory a couple of times before
Hype for all the hinted at future vid concepts. Seems like Karn's been cookin.
I like having Alraumon as Puppetmon's rookie. I like the idea of a plant becoming a tree to a older tree than finally a puppet. I always imagine Metalgreymon (virus) was the utlimate/perfect level for Machinedramon as well.
It's never happened in any official materials, But I love Pipismon as the Myotismon Champion. It's a bat, the colors match, & even the fact that it's the Patamon Love armor is perfect. It's not quite period accurate, coming out in 2000, but It's too good to pass up. Then the rookie would probably be Tsukaimon. It's not even fully unprecedented as it fuses with Dagomon to VenomMyotismon in World Dawn & Dusk
I also love the idea of DemiDevimon becoming Beelzamon. Then if we're not being period accurate anyway, may as well use Baalmon
For similar reasoning, my preference is Vilemon as a Myotismon Champion. Especially since Myotismon hates the VenomMyotismon form due to it being ugly looking, it makes it seem like Myotismon is trying to maintain a fake image of itself when it's actually more bat-like.
One digimon that was missed is Parrotmon from the Prequil film, it also geta referenced in Adventure by Young Gennai as they were exploting what happened before the current digi destined came to the digital world
13:08
This is now my head cannon for the versions that show up in Tamers.
13:16
I actually have always liked the idea of Tyrannomon to MetalGrey Virus, if only to get that OG Tyrannomon rep into a Black MetalGreymon line as was part of the OG V-Pets.
Thank you Karn Ex. I have been hoping for a video about the Adventure Villains Evolution line. I enjoyed it.
Looking forward to more awesome videos like this one Karn!... no pressure 😁
9:07 Nice, Discotek, the company that licenses so many things that interest me, and does them so well, that it's the only physical media company I make sure to keep track of.
Loved this video! Always love to see your thoughts in digivolution lines.
Thank you!
DoneDevimon was still terrifying because gone was the intelligence and left was the monster
Another prodigious video Karn! Great work as always keep it up
Thanks a ton!
I love your videos bro, and im glad you're being economical making your videos!
Thank you for all you do and all the effort you make on your videos. Enjoy the subject matter and getting to learn more than just the original anime showed. Never got into the card game as a kid and only played the PS1 game Digimon world. So thanks for the knowledge and unique takes!
Much appreciated!
This was fantastic.
Have you ever thought of a video just focused on the DigiDestined?
Like your top favorite over all or a something.
Great Video! I was a little disappointed that you didn't to an evo line for Apocalymon.
Ah...you did a couple of Digivolutions I did in Cyber Sleuth/Hacker's Memory. Nice!
Hey guys, amazing spooktober finale, and amazing vid as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Karn_EX no problem! Never an issue to pull up one of your videos, new or old
I was not ex0ecting this idea and I love it Holy Minotarumon.
Oh Hi Karn! I didn't see you there! Happy Halloween!
(More would be nice :) )
This was a good video and here is my thoughts on the main Villian Digitalution lines 1, Tsukimon to Devimon to NeoDevimon or Skullsatamon to Deamon 2, Chumon to Sukumon to Etamon to Metaletamon 3, Demidevimon to Vilemon to Myotismon to VenomMyotismon to Malomyotismon 6, Shakamon to Seadramon to MegaSeadramon to Metalseadramon to separate it from Michael’s Betamon 7, Mushromon to Woodmon to Cherrymon to Puppetmon 8, Agumon to Darktyranomon to Megadramon to Machinedramon 9, Candlemon to Bakamon to Phantomon to Piedmon 10, Kuramon to Krysalimon to Infermon to Diaboramon to Armagedamon 11, Dokunamon to Dukugamon to Arukenimon to MutentLilithmon 12, Ghostmon to Wizardmon to Mummymon to Pharohmon 13, Black Agumon to Blue/ Virusgreymon to VirusMetalGreymon to Blackwargreymon 14, Dorumon to Reptidramon to Gladimon to Alphamon.
This should be good one awesome epic and happy Halloween everyone
The fact that viral Metal Greymon doesn't become Machindramon is criminal. The culmination of the full mechanization fits, not to mention they share half the same parts.
10:00 Witchmon also looks like more monstrous version of Arukenimon's human disquise so it is pretty perfect pre-evo.
I'm subscribed with notifications turned on and I've only gotten like 2 notifications the past few months
yknow im probably the only one who sees it but Neodevimon always had a sort of redeemed villain feel to me, ive never seen the manga it originated from so maybe im close or way way off, i would love it if a villainous devimon or other demonic digimon gets redeemed but instead of becoming more angellic or good it keeps it's evil look but morphs it from just straight evil to more just an aggressive personality
awesome line would love to see some of these explored in a series
Hey Karn, I'm new subscriber here, found you when looking up info about Digimon Vital Bracelet stuff for my Vital Bracelet Fitness shorts vlog series. Been binging a few videos while I'm at the gym, great Video Podcasting material.
Awesome thank you!
I kinda like Wizardmon for mummymon, especially for that specific mummymon
Right?
Especially with how well your Piedmon line works out, it would be cool if a Digimon antagonist evolved and grew as a threat over an entire series (kinda like a slowburn version of Impmon going from a nuisance to a full-on villain as Beelzemon.)
This random video on a thursday and not on the usual sundays save my very shitty day
Haha happy Halloween!
Another great video
Thanks again!
8:57
Hey it's going to help so people don't feel too limited in creating Digimon partners with characters from other series
For mugendramon I've always like the idea of it starting out as a tyranomon, then metaltyranomon, then mugendramon. I love the idea of it starting organic then throwing away it's organics in pursuit of power.
Happy Halloween Karn EX!
6:37 You brilliant man you caught me before I could pause the video and comment mentioning that Dracmon -> Sangloupmon -> Myotismon is the evolution chain in Digimon Survive (love that game btw).
8:52 To be fair it was made truly known in 02 that the Devimon destroyed by Angemon didn't digivolve to Myotismon, as he appeared in the Dark Whirlpool, so you don't have to stress to much about that bro.
9:32 To be fair when mentioning Krysalimon, you could've mentioned how they appeared in Digimon Tamers originally getting destroyed by Beelzemon when he was at his peak, and then attacking him together when he was weakened from Gallantmon. When Calumon used Shining Digivolution the Krysalimon warp digivolved to Diaboromon.
I think it could be fun to have Devidramon or DarkTyrannomon to Gigadramon to Machinedramon. ToyAgumon as the Rookie, I like the idea of it being a Digimon built from something peaceful and fun falling to darkness and gradually rebuilding itself as a machine for war and destruction.
It's been a long time since I watched Adventure so it's probably just some kind of misremembering, but it was always in my head that Devimon reincarnated into Myotismon after being beaten by Angemon.
Not the case but would be cool!
Surprised you didnt go for evilmon for myotismon! Great picks and video though! 🎉
This is beautiful thank you for this amazing birthday present I am 39 years old now on October 31st aka Halloween and I love my birthday present from you thank you.
Happy birthday!
While I know that the Devimon from File Island doesn't become Myotismon, I think it'd be funnier if he did, I also think they should've just kept bringing Myotismon back for things like Tri, Kizuna, etc., because I think it'd be funny and they can't leave Adventure alone anyways, why not just own up to it and have the most well known villain return over and over again.
my head cannon is thet the demidevimon that works for myotismon is resurrected form of the devimon from the file island ofcourse that means he open the egg and whent trough the baby forms way faster than patamon did cause they died at the same time
Personally I think machinedramon’s line is minidekachimon, to dark tyrannomon, to metal tyrannomon, and finally machinedramon.
hows your Halloween karnn
this is a very perfect topic for the finale 👌👌
Kuwagamon seems to always be the first one to appear when something happens (he was the first enemy in the digital world, he showed up when the digital world opened up to the human world, and he showed up again near the start of Last Evolution) so I feel he's a bit more than a "monster of the week"
It would be kinda cool if Machinedramon was actually born from multiple pieces of fallen machine/cyborg digimon, so it parallels with the birth of Kimeramon.
... Speaking of which, Millenniummon should technically also be here, even if he was just a cameo and a flashback/nod to the wonderswan games.
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@@Karn_EXHm, I'm not really sure if you're referring to the line you used for the previous video, or I'm missing something.
@@saxor96I think the tamer Clause is the thing preventing millenniummon here, cuz of ryo technically having him as a partner in monodramon. I'd say millenniummon's post ryo evolution line is monodra-strikedra-cyberdra-machinedra-millenniummon trio
@First-to-last Hm, you're right on that.
I had an idea for a potential future video: what would a Lucemon Digivolution line look like if it redeemed itself? Rather than becoming Lucemon Falldown Mode and then Lucemon Satan Mode, what if Lucemon sided with the protagonists against an existential threat and had a custom Digivolution line that at least wasn't evil? For example, Lucemon Priest Mode as a Champion.
I think instead of having Mummymon and Arukenimon digivolve to mega separately, it'd be interesting to explore what they would become if they DNA digivolved together. Maybe they could even have a couple different forms they switch between depending on which is more forward, similar to the Paildramon/Dinobeemon situation.
I'd introduce their DNA digivolution when the battle moves to the real world and eventually be the catalyst that prompts Genai to help Paildramon digivolve to Imperialdramon the first time.
I love the lines chosen, I would suggest instead of doing monster of the week maybe just do major henchmen of the villains, Ogremon for Devimon, Phantomon for Myotismon, Scorpiomon for Metalseadramon, Mega/gigadramon for Machinedramon, Cherrymon for Puppetmon, and Ladydevimon for Piedmon. I know some of these are kind of already been covered for other lines.
Here's hoping that next year you do some D-Reaper content, like what if they corrupted the Deva or something!
My head canon when I was a kid, was definitely Devimon digivolving into myotismon and then piedmon. I thought it was nice symmetry between the protagonists powering up. Obviously they were different characters but I thought it was fun as a child
Man, if they went with the route that Myotismon and Piedmon were just evolutions of the original Devimon that was beaten by Angemon, that would have been a cool idea. One of the first major villains being a depowered Dark Master that just REFUSES to die and tries to get vengeance for being so handily beaten would have been really cool. Would also better facilitate why Piedmon was arguably the most dangerous of the Dark Masters (at least I think he was). Still, really interesting video. Can't wait for whatever else is getting cooked up.
piedmon was the most dangerous of the dark masters.
all the others were killed by war greymon and metal garurumon basically in single combat, while piedmon was beating the shit out of both at the same time until magna angemon joined the fight.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN 🎃 and were getting spooky with villains hell yeah
When Tamers came out, when I saw Impmon, he looked so much like a rookie level Devimon to me.
And despite the name, for me DemiDevimon is more the rookie level of Myotismon (like a child hated by his father but want to be loved).
A fun video as always. One thing I don't think Chewmon works for Etemon in the original continuity because Chewmon originally in both story, card, and games was a Digimon he was just pary of Sukamon and was only made his own Digimon later on. As neither card gamez series one or two or Digimon World One or Two has Chewmon listed anywhere.
So Etemon I'd say would be Gazimon as they were all around Etamon, then Sukamon, followed by Etemon.
While sort of true, Chuumon was very much its own Digimon by the time of Adventure 1999
Not necessarily related but im aware but i just have to put it out there doctor mummymon from ghost game should definitely have sorcermon as his champion it just feels so right at least to me
On a more related note wizardmon for 02 mummymon works i mean hes really not all that evil so i think itd be cute to see a wizardmon whos silly and goofy and hey maybe the shyness the species is described with could play in imagine arukenimon and mummymon both devolved as wizardmon and witchmon and wizardmon hides behind witchmon and kinda just tries to do as hes told because he feels much less confident when devolved
Yes to this vid I love them! Long live digimon!! Can u do me a kunemon evo line video on same style? He's my favorite digimon ❤
Dammit now my head canon is mummy Mon uses the power of the last destiny stone to turn into pharaohmon and kicks Blackwargraymons butt
Gotta admit I never considered SkullSatanmon as a Devimon evo. That's actually pretty awesome and it could tie well.
I liked this spooktober spectacular!!!
Glad to hear that!
I theorize that since Angemon came back, so did Devimon in the same moment and he ultimately becomes myotismon then venomyotismon during the warp digivolving arc. It's just too perfect to think they fight him as devimon, then VMmon, Apocalypsemon then Malo and then same thing if he's in digimon Tri.
Forgot Piedmon
I kinda felt like all the villains were monsters of the week. Even if it was a recurring character it still usually felt very monster of the week specifically because they don't have full evolution lines except for Diaboramon who did actually have a full evolution line.
That's part of why Frontier is my favorite season because the main villains can actually evolve using different spirits just like the protagonists so they actually feel like proper villains not just the monster of the week.
For Machinadramon, I quite like the Cyber Sleuth's line of:
Hagurumon - Guardromon - Datamon - Machinadragon
My logic is they're all machines and all viruses - so the "evil" component remains consistent
Awesome on your next Halloween Spooktacular you should try Baby Digimon evil Digivolve
Karn, one of your next videos could be: "10 evolutionary lines mixing Digimon and Appmon", making lines as cohesive as possible and making 5 of them reach Appmons God tier and the other 5 in Mega Digimons
I've done a couple videos like that :)
@Karn_EX Yes, but more is always good
*le gasp* we got the one I asked for!
Interesting enough, in the Digimon movie Keramon warped digivolved to Infermon, then in Tamers a group of Chrysalimon merged/warped digivolved to Diaboromon.
Deemon is such an unserious name I love it.
Spoilers for Kinnikuman, but its revealed very late that the god of the choujin (superhumans who usually have a name ending in "-man") is just named The Man.
5:33 The *WHAT*
Also, maybe use the Dex line for the evil Alphamon? BTW I freaking love Dan/Don/Done Devimon.
Thumbs up for calling Demon by proper name and not that ridiculous dub name. : 3
10:30 ...Agreed. I did not feel like Parasimon worked for Arukenimon. But Mutant Lilithmon really worked well (I also like option where Withmon becomes Red LadyDevimon and from there Mutant Lilithmon. For Mummymon, I kinda like Soulmon as pre-evo personally. Yes, I know it is just a Bakemon with witch hat.)
10:40 i imagine the mega level of arukenimon would be called moiraemon, and appears as a digimon who looks like a red spider with teh upper body of a a six armed woman on top, dressed in red with blue skin and a third face on her stomach and wielding a red thread on one side and a pair spindle's distaff, measuring rod and pair of shears on each hand on the other side. the choices for this design is based on the greek mythological crature arachne, which arukinemon is based on, and mostly the moirae sisters, AKA the three fates, who come from greek mythology.
for those who are interested on who is who,
clotho: the sister who spins everyone's red thread of fate from her spindle
lachesis: the sister who measures everyone's red thread of fate with a measuring rod
atropos: the one who cuts a persons red thread of fate at the end of their lifes with her shears
on the subject of evolution, I've always wondered what the twelve deva would digivolve into if they ever needed to step in and take the place of one of the sovereign digimon, especially if the designs were influenced by whichever sovereign they were replacing
You say obviously not the same DemiDevimon, but he wasn't Devimon's minion, and personally I always liked the idea that it was actually the same Digimon reborn.
It has been a while, but I'm pretty sure DemiDevimon doesn't appear until after Tai and Agumon go to the human world and back, learning of the massive time difference in the process (at least I'm sure he's most active after that, since he targets the kids when they're separated). That gives him time to be reborn and evolve up to Rookie stage, and would be a great parallel with Patamon also reincarnating.
I always lean into the theory about the Daemon Corps. being revived Demon Lords, so I do see Tsukaimon-Devimon, I always forget the Ultimate, but always end on Daemon, so SkullSatamon doesn't really work for me, him rather going into Barbamon, what with the staff! I also always lean into the Witchelny aspect for Piedmon as I understand that that is where he learned all of his little tricks and what have you that he pulled in the Animé, like turning everyone into keyrings, so Wizardmon, I feel, ought to be his Champion, again, I forget his Ultimate! Of course, a lot of this comes from all that Digimon Lore I caught up on during lockdown, especially when I wanted to know who all the Demon Lords actually were, going into it convinced that Diaboromon was one!
I used to hate Etemon in the anime but I have been having a lot of fun with it in the TCG I love my Etemon deck
I really enjoy the idea of the adventure continuity just using one line for the major villians, so DemiDevimon -> Devimon -> Myotismon (Vamdevimon) -> Piedmon -> Apocalymon
What digimon would make the best villain for a new digimon anime? Either acting on thier own or along with a human villain
I had a thought while watching this. When you was talking about mummymon and arukenimon why not have there mega be a jogress would be really cool to see like a spider mummy digimon or something like that.
Did anyone else notice how good of a potential digivolution line mutant lilithmon and witchmon would make?
Witchmon to Arukenimon... HELL YES!!!
Though not cronologically viable, I always thought that there was potential in Arukenimon to Lilithmon X-antibody. Though you do have to deal with the random X-antibody suddenly appearing, but visually it kinda makes sense in my mind
Honestly I could see Arukenimon having both Witchmon and Dokugumon as champions and sliding between them given she switches between her "human" form and her digimon form.
Oh fun, I like that!
Watching for the first time this month due to the two florida hurricanes making me need to focus on other things
I start the video and get Nicolas Cage jumpscared
It's good to be home
What about Ogremon? He was an antagonist that chose to work for Devimon not by mind control and showed up multiple times. Yeah he turned good but that means he could have two evolution lines, one representing him staying evil and another for his redemption. Also Rebellimon and Titanmon didn’t exist then so there wasn’t a clear evolution path for him too to explore.
I show him during the Monster of the Week/others segment. He's not an overarching or main villain of an arc, he's a sort of rival and multiple monster of the week. He would be in that "others/MOTW" video I mentioned at the start.
@@Karn_EX I see now, sorry my bad, I wasn’t directly watching during the explanation and didn’t see Ogremon. But what about an ally Digimon evolution video maybe? Like all the most prominent allies of each season that don’t have human partners but help the human characters still, like Bokomon and Neemon in Frontier, Callumon in Tamers, and Ogremon for Adventure to name a few examples?
Just a suggestion for a next custom evolution line, how about making a rookie and a mega for Damemon from Xross Wars?
Nice, even Karn forgot about Dagomon.
Jokes aside, I feel like maybe Ogremon could've been added.
Dagomon is barely even a monster of the week lol
I think Mummymon really needs its own dedicated. Zombiemon would have been perfect and while we have a lot of beetles already, a scarab beetle prevo would be kind of cool too