The reason of MetalGreymon Alterous evolving into Mugendramon's shadow losing to DoneDevimon is because it Mugendramon went FULL-ON SAVAGE and never used Mugendramon's attacks the way the Dark Masters Mugendramon did, such as lacking the Psycho Blasters, COMPLETELY REMOVING THE OPTION TO USE MUGEN CANNON BY THE WAY, and not using attacks that Mugendramon's complete form can learn, as it only uses physical attacks like a crazed, Night Howler-driven maniacal force of nature, being locked out of using Mugen Hand, Booster Claw, Giga Destroyer and Catastrophe D!
@Zero_Unit Yes! That season had four armor digivolutions for the OG DigiDestined, as TK had Patamon turn into Pegasusmon who responded to the challenges at hand, BlitzWarGreymon was the result of the enemy's attack on the ISS escalating, Mimi's Panchomon was the result of Etemon's sonic attack interfering with her digivice's effect on Palmon, and Matt's WereGarurumon had the golden sword that was key to defeating Musyamon.
@@psychoapplesauceeater8562 Pokemon's been phasing out location-based evolutions since Sword/Shield though lmao Barring Galarian Yamask, pretty much every previous 'mon that needed arbitrary location junk like Charjabug, Nosepass, Magneton, etc. now just use an evolution stone like a Thunder Stone Which, I'm very much glad about that, but likewise speaking as someone who grew up solely with the Poké- side of the monster collecting franchises, from the little glances I've seen into the Digi- side of things it seems like Digivolving has a whole heaping host of ways it can be induced as it is-like a Digimon could stub their toe on a table and that'd probably make them Digivolve, at least based on my admittedly ignorant outsider perspective on the series-so I feel like the concept of "Evolve based on the location the creature is currently in" is way more appropriate for Digimon than it ever was for Pokemon
No joke. WarGrowlmon Dark Digivolving to Megidramon will always be my favorite Dark Digivolution. Why? Because it shows just how dangerous a Hazard Digimon is, when that power was unleashed. Megidramon's mere appearance caused major chaos in the Digital World and who knows what could've happened if it was allowed to rampage further.
I'm pretty certain Megidramon would have ended all life on both the Digital World and Earth. Megidramon is a literal living Digimon that brings out the apocalypse.
I like how Agumon digivolving to Machinedramon in Digimon adventure 2020 was kinda foreshadowed in Metalgreymon’s digivolution sequence with the silhouette of Machinedramon
@@Karn_EX Honestly, could be good or bad depending on the situation. Be it Heads Or Tails or the Dice Roll or roll of the dime. Sometimes Scary, Sometimes Cool, Sometimes Sad. (Care mistakes but with extra steps and/or but better lol)
The idea of Takato's rage triggering the evolution of a frenzied Megidramon and Guilmon countering with its tail makes me wonder if he could reach that form and still be his playful and innocent
Even to this day the debut of SkullGreymon fills me with dread. And Toei making Machinedramon the dark digivolution of Metalgreymon is so fitting I can't believe it wasn't done in the original Adventure. I headcannon that Machinedramon was the original MetalGreymon that darkdigivolved into Machinedramon when it could not evolve naturally, as in, becoming a machine to overcome the limitations of nature or something.
Recently rewatched Savers and man, the Dark Digivolution scene is so heavy, the way Marcus feels more affected than Agumon himself and straight up says that he wants to off Thomas (also how Agumon literally perishes and reverts to an egg after it). Also I do like that Yu has a digital hazard on his hat even though his Gaomon turns into a ZeedGarurumon instead Obligatory "I wish Ghost Game wasn't episodic because GulusGammamon deserved so much more" comment
On a related note, I think Bancho Leomon's pep talk was little uncalled for. Masaru is only 14, not having much of his father in life, and Kurata killed untold number of Digimon. Thomas working for Kurata and fighting them and to my knowledge not telling the group about his younger sister. I think Masaru's emotions were justified to extent.
Interesting that Adventure 2020 the Dark Evolution isn't triggered by the partner, rather MetalGreymon's own anger towards DoneDevimon after it seemingly ate and killed Tai
Tai was also angry af and acted beyond reckless which is what got himself eaten in the first place. Then there's also the fact that the miasma was involved and probably caused both to be so rageful. Basically there were several elements that triggered that dark digivolution, which is also unique because it wasn't an actual Machinedramon but its aura, to explain it somehow. It's a strange but great sequence.
The one that sticks out to me is when Tai acted like a jerk to Agumon, trying to force him to digivolve which resulted in the eternally calm and collected Agumon snapping and dark digivolving into Skullgreymon and damn near killing everyone. It took Tai TWO EPISODES to realize it was his fault and actually managed to get Skullgreymon to return to his senses and become Agumon again.
I love this idea for expanding the branches for what your Digimon can turn into. I also love that they gave Gulus his own personality than being a roaring savage monster like Megidramon and Skull Greymon. this made him more scary because he is fully aware of his actions instead of being a mindless rampaging monster. he knows he's hurting people... and he's entirely ok with that. this makes it feel like a true Dark Evolution because your Digimon is a completely different person now in more ways than one. I want to see more of this in future Digimon shows.
Gulus doesn't only have his own personality, he's still as much a reflection of Hiro as regular Gammamon is. He's essentially who Hiro would be if he weren't so agreeable, and absolutely could have become if he didn't remain so optimistic in the face of everything. In a lot of ways he is justified in his reasoning, it's just the shear brutality and callousness behind his actions that keeps you from rooting for him as an anti-hero.
In the Dimon RP, I’m currently running a big part of the story. Is that a lot of the partner did you? Did you evolve into like one off war until they kinda settle into their true form
Metalgreymon becoming becoming Machinedramon is probably my favorite because it's one of the main times where the Digimon isn't dark digivolving due to the dark feelings of the tamer, but rather it's Agumon's OWN rage at Donedevimon seemingly killing Tai that causes him to Digivolve. Yes it's influenced by the miasma but TBH i don't think it needed to be for that to happen.
It felt more like the Miasma was the Catalyst for the evolution. If he had the power to evolve on his own, he would have, but the miasma simply caused the almost incomplete evolution.
Was wondering if you would talk Frontier! I agree on Duskmon and Velgemon. Would almost be tempted to count the first time Takuya became Vritramon considering just how out of control he was, but it is a stretch tbh.
@@Karn_EXno gatomon also digivolve in ophanimon also in digimon adventure 2020, also ophanimon is digimon frontier I think ophanimon is the original. Digivolution of gatomon one side evolution is dragon form
I think my favourite thing about dark digivolution is that each digimon on this list safe the mode changes are digimon that could be entirely reasonable and righteous digimon. Skullgreymon could be what happens when a ghost or undead digimon digivolves to ultimate. The thing that makes dark digivolution bad is that not only do both tamer and digimon lose control of the situation, but also that it is agony for the digimon. Guilmon becoming Megidramon is just as you said, likely the intended and destined mega for that line, and just as many other digimon are said to be strong enough to destroy the digital world, Megidramon could just exist there, as not a problem to anyone. We need to see more "bad digimon" as main characters and maintain the darker line while still being the good guys. I like the concept of a Keramon, or demidevimon or other traditionally bad rookies eventually becoming things like Velgrmon or Titamon.
Would you count in 'Digimon World' where if you have a partner Angemon that loses a fight it can digivolve into Devimon? Was the coolest thing that ever happened to me as a kid playing that game.
there's also a chance for metalgreymon to turn into skullgreymon after death and any rookie that dies can turn into bakemon on death. metalgreymon turning into skullgreymon is not a real dark digivolution tho, since both are ultimate level. in that case it just turns "bad" cos you didn't take care of him or something. Same goes for Angemon/Devimon in that regards.
Really think adventure 2020 missed an opportunity with the angemon/devimon twin thing to have them merge and create a new lucemon that is less expressly evil. Like Lucemon Redemption Mode or something like that
GulusGamamon might be one of my favorite digimon of all time, from both a design and lore perspective. I also love how Proximamon is kinda just one of the most powerful digimon around
I think the scariest Dark Digivolution for me was Guilmon's in Lionheart. AWESOME fight scenes and dialogue, though! LOVED it when Growlmon's eyes turned cat-like and we got a FULL CLOSE-UP of that! Steve Blum NAILED those scenes, especially with... "Ah...ah...ah...but he...was just trying to help us and you... *growls* Especially performing those growls! That gave me shivers especially when Takato and WarGrowlmon screamed in unison!
Since a Dark Digivolution tends to come from the darkness in the humans heart, you could make the argument that Takuya becoming Flamemon was a sort of Dark Spirit Evolution. Instead of the usual rage or sadness, he is overwhelmed by fear and tries to run away from the Digital world.
I think in digimon story, the Dark Evolution would technically be Pagumon to BlackAgumon, as he was already starting to shift by the time he became dark Tyranomon. His true "fated" line was to eventually become an Antylamon. But also in the same game there's a brief dark evolution of an AtlurKabuterimon to GranKuwagamon. But it's gone so fast it's not even a fight.
gulusgammamon is my personal favourite because he is actually intelligent thers more to him than just being a rage filled evolution, and he got to apprer more often
You know, now that I think about it, it would've been cool to see a Dark Armor evolution in 02. Davis infected by a spore and making Veemon digivolve into GhostFlamedramon or something like that. Wormon being pushed to digivolve by the emperor and it corrupts the Kindness armor, would've been cool
For the longest time, I thought that Calmaramon WAS a corrupted/wrong Beast Spirit of Water because she felt so different from Ranamon and AncientMermaidmon. In Frontier, an emphasis was put on Ranamon's beauty, and AncientMermaidmon looks conventionally attractive as well. Meanwhile, Calmaramon is known to be considered hideous by others. Looking back, I know it doesn't make much sense since Ranamon had to find her Beast Spirit but that's what I used to think.
A friend talk me largely about this, i see digimons as data packages so is alot easier than kos think. They are easily influence by Tamer emotions, this is part of the unnatural way of evolution, with tamers they literally cut ways to evolve (this is actually a bad thing but tangent) but when the desires of the tamer are opposite to the usual, that "evil" energy gets on the path of evolution mutating the data package and bringing a new evolution full by dark desires. Not every dark evolution is bad, only those obtain through this bad fellings are bad, is even possible to have a wendimon or a Darkdramon as partner and those still your friends. A like this franchise a lot.
It makes me wonder a bit: Taking the relationship between Greymon and Tyrannomon as the main line: Tyrannomon is seen as what you get when you raise Agumon imperfectly and have care mistakes. There should be a distinction here: SkullGreymon is less about Care Mistakes, and more about Care Failures (which is a phrase I'm making up here to refer to purposeful and/or malignant mistakes you make as opposed to normal Care Mistakes that might be performed due to just being an inexperience trainer). You can raise a Greymon perfectly with the mind towards getting MetalGreymon, but the Care Failure is when you overtrain your Greymon to only care about fighting, when you try to take shortcuts and force them to train without rest, and when you try to punch above your weight class and force the Greymon to become overly injured without caring for it. Perhaps a new video idea would be "What if we got to see each Adventure digimon in both Care Mistake (Imperfect) Evolution and Care Failure Evolution lines?" This would be spearheaded by the Agumon line, where "Care Mistake (Imperfect)" evolution results in the Tyrannomon line, while the "Care Failure" evolution would go down the BlackGreymon line.
Don't know if it was in the UK but I knew about virus metalgreymon because of digimon world 1. The game came out with virus metalgreymon as the case cover along with images of it on the back of the case. Game came out roughly before we saw virus metalgreymon in the anime.
Honestly i really want an example of a digimon partner where the dark digivolution be the official permanent evolution kinda like- Imagine if the dark digivolution was permanent BUT it was used to tell a story of growth and acceptance Imagine a human partner with complex emotions hurting and that influences their digimon but as they grow and learn that hurting is okay the evolution takes on a more positive light instead of being a terrifying idea
The adv 2020 mugendramon appearance is easily my favourite dark evolution because of how it shows how much Agumon cares for Taichi along with being snapped out of his anger by Angemon. And on the subject of adv 2020, it's interesting that the holy digimon are both subject to trauma through captivity and being forced to become skullknightmon. And they have to rely on their partners to overcome it.
I wish we got to see DinoBeemon in 02 as a dark DNA digivolution since it pretty much is an "evil" version of Paildramon. But then again, Ken has really suffered way too much for an 11 year old already.
Megidramon is still one of my all time favs along with Beelzemon in terms of design and it’s a shame that they’re almost never utilized in the various games
I'd like to see a new series focusing on dark digimon and the acceptance of the bad emotions inside them but staying dark digimon. Shadow isn't always bad Light isn't always good.
I do love how things like this show that Davis was the true best leader of the group. The only one not to fall to Darkness and in fact overcame it and forgave the darkness in the emperor when everyone else outcasted him
Really complete video! I don't think you missed anything big, though I do have a couple of things to correct/add. Probably the biggest Digimon that you didn't talk about here is Devitamamon, who is specifically said to be a Dark Evolution of Digitamamon in its Digimon Reference Book profile. Still, this is outside the adaptations which you focused on. Other than that, for specific series: -Lopmon does appear in Hurricane Touchdown/The Golden Digimentals! He has a brief cameo in the epilogue for the movie, though only in the Japanese version, Digimon the Movie cuts this out entirely in favour of the cringy dance scene. -Xros Wars anime indeed has no Dark Evolutions per-se, but I'd count Forced DigiXros as the most similar thing, being a clearly evil version of DigiXros that transforms Digimon against their will. The manga version is even closer considering how it corrupts and breaks the minds of its users (or user, since only SkullKnightmon does it). -On Tri, while Meicrackmon: Vicious Mode is considered a "Mutation" by official material, it has been called a Dark Evolution once! The Battle Spirits collab card for Meicrackmon VM's flavour text, to be exact. "Meicoomon's Dark Digivolution. She wishes to destroy the world, as she sees everything as her enemy." -You rushed through the games which I feel it's a bit of a waste since there are two very interesting examples there. Story is the first, while BlackAgumon evolving to DarkTyranomon is only specified as a Dark Evolution later on by Pagumon (the reborn BlackAgumon), it's kind of a complete opposite to the usual take on the concept - Pagumon specifically states he Dark Evolved because he lacked a good Tamer, not because a Tamer made him run wild. The other thing I'd like to focus on is Survive, while you did point out the specific cases, Survive is the one piece of media that actually explores and explains what a Dark Evolution is in detail. Quoting Wikimon here (and quoting myself since I wrote it in the first place), "Minase Akiharu theorizes that the evolution of Kemonogami is linked to human children is heavily affected by said children's emotions. As such, an unstable mind, caused by such thing as fear, anger, sadness, or suppression, can cause their Digimon to evolve into uncontrolled forms."
I don't think Gulusgammamon really qualifies as a Dark Digivolution; the finale of Ghost Game seemed to make it pretty clear that Gulusgammamon was a separate entity, a sapient infection of sorts that took some aesthetic cues from Gammamon's line but otherwise remained its own thing. (Kinda like the alien half of Venom, now that I think about it.) This, to me, is further evidenced by two key differences between Skullgreymon and Gulusgammamon. Firstly: Skullgreymon was irrational, driven by pure instinctive aggression to destroy anything that mildly inconvenienced him; by contrast, Gulusgammamon was calm, precise and efficient, demonstrating a will so cold and calculating that it was almost serene. Secondly: when Skullgreymon's rampage ended, the first thing Koromon did was apologize for letting this burning rage overtake him; when Gulusgammamon reverted after his first appearance, Gammamon acted like he'd just woken up from fainting and went right back to mourning Bokomon, with no indication that he even remembered anything after Bokomon's death.
Funny thing with Megidramon, but considering side lore there's evidently a non-berserker Megidramon that's part of a group of Dragon digimon. Which lends credence to Megidramon being Guilmon's 'proper' natural endpoint, and that getting there in a more natural, unforced way, is what gets you the sane variant.
Now that you talk a bit about the Digital Hazard on the Dark Digivolution of WarGrowlmon; will you ever make a video dedicated to the Digital Hazard? As I started getting into Digimon this year, the Digital Hazard was one of the things that I had the most difficult time understanding/finding good explanations for. And honestly you are pretty much the only channel I use as my guide on my journey to become a true Digimon fan so it would be great if you made a video about it
Since you kept saying you'd probably miss one, I was keeping my eyes open for the black Gaogamon in the manga. xD I didn't know about Garurumon Dark Digivolving to ShadowWereGarurumon in the virtual pets, though. That's really cool!
I could swear I remember some dark digivolution in V Tamers, but I can't put my finger on it. And no I'm not talking about Arkadimon (Ultra), that one is technically evolving as intended.
In the first Digimon world game that was for the PlayStation, the blue colored Metalgreymon virus type was the version that showed up not only in the game, but also in the CG opening cut scene. And I had played the first Digimon world game before I ever saw the anime. So when I saw Metalgreymon as an orange color, I was confused as heck. When I got the trading cards and saw the two different versions and saw that one was a vaccine and the other was a virus type that’s when it clicked. Then when they got to this episode in the anime where finally shows the two different versions I like that.
Ordinemon's fusion is one of the most disturbing to watch, literally forcing Ophanimon and Raguelmon's bodies together - it unsettles me every time I watch it.
i reckon the hazard mark growlmon has is because its *technically* not a digimon like agumon, renamon ect, it was created out of nowhere by a drawing so it could have MANY errors that we dont know about, the mark being one of them
Huh, I never actually noticed the Guilmon drawing didn't have the Digital Hazard. I do think it might suggest Meggidramon is as invasive to Takato's intent as the hazard itself.
I believe (at least based on what I remember of the Japanese terms) that "fusion" doesn't advance the level (eg the Megas WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon becoming the also Mega (except when they say he isn't) Omnimon) whereas "DNA Digivolution"/"Jogress" involves raising the level (eg the Champions ExVeemon and Stingmon becoming the Ultimate Paildramon) Of course, this is from a while back and may not still hold, but that's the risk you take...
@@michaelmann7816 The original Fusion of WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon into Omnimon/Omegamon was actually considered one of the first Jogress Digivolutions, with Omegamon (how I'll refer to them now) being a proper Super-Ultimate/Ultra-Level Digimon during that Battle with Diaboromon, fitting your description of Jogress Ranking-Up the Material Digimon from the Combination. There is also a Mega-Level variant of Omegamon that is the one who exists as a member of the Royal Knights, that supposedly either isn't a Fusion of a WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon or has been Fused for so Long it's lost much of its former Power. But for most instances of Omegamon, the combination of the two Mega-Level Digimon is treated as a Miraculous event and results in an Ultra-Level Digimon that is truly the End of any battle it takes part in... Personally, I consider Jogress, DNA Digivolution and general Fusion to be the Same Process: Two or more Digimon synchronising their Wills together to merge into a Single, much stronger Form. Digi-Xros/DigiFusion I consider to be a Bastardization of this process, using Technology to bypass the Synchronisation Requirement for a Fusion to be Initiated. While Synchronisation can still be a part of a Digi-Xros, if not present the Resulting Digimon wouldn't be as powerful as it could be - this is why many of the Shoutmon Xroses are more significantly Stronger than others. The ability to just throw any number of Digimon together might be funny but often results in an Unstable mess at best, and an Abomination or Anomaly at worst - which is why the Method only lasted 2 Seasons, and was heavily modified in the second of those Seasons...
I always assumed Guimon got that digital hazard thing because he's not a "natural" digimon. Like he was made using the same "system" but is like a mod. Like when you add a character to game they aren't from.
I'd argue Sukakimon and Damedamon are Dark "Digivolutions" in Appmon, as they come about when an Applink that would normally become an Appfusion/appgattai goes wrong. Examples in show include when the 2 Appmon involved are in conflict with each other, but also when the Applidriver is expressing negative emotion (like when the girl experiences anger when the enemy Appmon shows some pictures of her). Since it can come about due to the negative emotions of the human, I'd say it's included.
@@Karn_EX I do agree that they are styled more after the fail states (gross, useless, etc) than traditional Dark Digivolutions (demonic, skeleton, evil).
There is one possibly two dark digivolution you missed, the first being Professor Ryusenji death evolving Kosuke's Dorugoramon into DexDorugoramon and two I consider Shroudmon to be a dark mega for Pulsemon. Personally of the Dark Evolutions, I GulusGammamon the most. I liked her personality and he was an intelligent dark evolution.
The angelic dark digivolutions always resulted in fallen or demonic digimon, but I always loved how the dinosaur or draconian digimon became rampaging monsters when they went dark. It felt more dangerous than any other type. Except for the Gamma line. Seriously, what the Abyss is up with the Gamma line?! I heard some things about what they can do, and after watching a Desdemona get shoved down Arachnemon’s throat and Pixiemon come out of an encounter with Gulus looking like he lost a fight with a stove, I’m inclined to believe that what I’ve heard was true, but HOW?! How the Abyss does digimon that isn’t part of that order of knights thing become something like that?!
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The Digital Hazard does appear in Takato's notebook on one of the pages scanned by his Digivice.
The reason of MetalGreymon Alterous evolving into Mugendramon's shadow losing to DoneDevimon is because it Mugendramon went FULL-ON SAVAGE and never used Mugendramon's attacks the way the Dark Masters Mugendramon did, such as lacking the Psycho Blasters, COMPLETELY REMOVING THE OPTION TO USE MUGEN CANNON BY THE WAY, and not using attacks that Mugendramon's complete form can learn, as it only uses physical attacks like a crazed, Night Howler-driven maniacal force of nature, being locked out of using Mugen Hand, Booster Claw, Giga Destroyer and Catastrophe D!
I don't see why Duskmon should come with any contention when Loweemon exists
I dunno incest is kinda a darker concept in digimon imo
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Honestly I kind of want more Digivolution based on the environment of the Digital World where the Digimon is when it Digivolves.
Agreed!
I take a Digimon to a Stockholm coffee shop and it evolves into Bongmon.
@Zero_Unit Yes! That season had four armor digivolutions for the OG DigiDestined, as TK had Patamon turn into Pegasusmon who responded to the challenges at hand, BlitzWarGreymon was the result of the enemy's attack on the ISS escalating, Mimi's Panchomon was the result of Etemon's sonic attack interfering with her digivice's effect on Palmon, and Matt's WereGarurumon had the golden sword that was key to defeating Musyamon.
If you want that go play pokemon
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Pokemon's been phasing out location-based evolutions since Sword/Shield though lmao
Barring Galarian Yamask, pretty much every previous 'mon that needed arbitrary location junk like Charjabug, Nosepass, Magneton, etc. now just use an evolution stone like a Thunder Stone
Which, I'm very much glad about that, but likewise speaking as someone who grew up solely with the Poké- side of the monster collecting franchises, from the little glances I've seen into the Digi- side of things it seems like Digivolving has a whole heaping host of ways it can be induced as it is-like a Digimon could stub their toe on a table and that'd probably make them Digivolve, at least based on my admittedly ignorant outsider perspective on the series-so I feel like the concept of "Evolve based on the location the creature is currently in" is way more appropriate for Digimon than it ever was for Pokemon
No joke. WarGrowlmon Dark Digivolving to Megidramon will always be my favorite Dark Digivolution. Why? Because it shows just how dangerous a Hazard Digimon is, when that power was unleashed. Megidramon's mere appearance caused major chaos in the Digital World and who knows what could've happened if it was allowed to rampage further.
tai taught us that are emotions effect our partners......
takato took that and RAN with it.....
he taught us to fear our own rage and hate.
I'm pretty certain Megidramon would have ended all life on both the Digital World and Earth. Megidramon is a literal living Digimon that brings out the apocalypse.
I like how Agumon digivolving to Machinedramon in Digimon adventure 2020 was kinda foreshadowed in Metalgreymon’s digivolution sequence with the silhouette of Machinedramon
I kinda like how THE GOODEST BOYS bois like Guilmon and Gammamon are the absolute goodest bois but become weapons of destruction lol
Definitely lol
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Honestly, could be good or bad depending on the situation. Be it Heads Or Tails or the Dice Roll or roll of the dime.
Sometimes Scary, Sometimes Cool, Sometimes Sad.
(Care mistakes but with extra steps and/or but better lol)
The idea of Takato's rage triggering the evolution of a frenzied Megidramon and Guilmon countering with its tail makes me wonder if he could reach that form and still be his playful and innocent
They’re both Virus Digimon with evil within them
Even to this day the debut of SkullGreymon fills me with dread. And Toei making Machinedramon the dark digivolution of Metalgreymon is so fitting I can't believe it wasn't done in the original Adventure.
I headcannon that Machinedramon was the original MetalGreymon that darkdigivolved into Machinedramon when it could not evolve naturally, as in, becoming a machine to overcome the limitations of nature or something.
Recently rewatched Savers and man, the Dark Digivolution scene is so heavy, the way Marcus feels more affected than Agumon himself and straight up says that he wants to off Thomas (also how Agumon literally perishes and reverts to an egg after it). Also I do like that Yu has a digital hazard on his hat even though his Gaomon turns into a ZeedGarurumon instead
Obligatory "I wish Ghost Game wasn't episodic because GulusGammamon deserved so much more" comment
On a related note, I think Bancho Leomon's pep talk was little uncalled for. Masaru is only 14, not having much of his father in life, and Kurata killed untold number of Digimon. Thomas working for Kurata and fighting them and to my knowledge not telling the group about his younger sister. I think Masaru's emotions were justified to extent.
@@aptheweirdone on a unrelated note, it's still so funny that those two are somehow 14 meanwhile Yoshino is 18 (at least that made Ivan less creepy)
Interesting that Adventure 2020 the Dark Evolution isn't triggered by the partner, rather MetalGreymon's own anger towards DoneDevimon after it seemingly ate and killed Tai
Tai was also angry af and acted beyond reckless which is what got himself eaten in the first place. Then there's also the fact that the miasma was involved and probably caused both to be so rageful. Basically there were several elements that triggered that dark digivolution, which is also unique because it wasn't an actual Machinedramon but its aura, to explain it somehow. It's a strange but great sequence.
The one that sticks out to me is when Tai acted like a jerk to Agumon, trying to force him to digivolve which resulted in the eternally calm and collected Agumon snapping and dark digivolving into Skullgreymon and damn near killing everyone. It took Tai TWO EPISODES to realize it was his fault and actually managed to get Skullgreymon to return to his senses and become Agumon again.
I think the fact that kaito pretty much fed dracmon to piedmon is even crazier
Davis, Takuya, and Taiki: we are the only ones who never dark digivolved
Takuya partially dark evolved with Vritramon
@@JohannaDarnerKinda he just went a little berserk
@@dayvonlouis5187he scared his friends for a bit.
@@JohannaDarnernot really?
I love this idea for expanding the branches for what your Digimon can turn into. I also love that they gave Gulus his own personality than being a roaring savage monster like Megidramon and Skull Greymon. this made him more scary because he is fully aware of his actions instead of being a mindless rampaging monster. he knows he's hurting people... and he's entirely ok with that. this makes it feel like a true Dark Evolution because your Digimon is a completely different person now in more ways than one.
I want to see more of this in future Digimon shows.
Gulus doesn't only have his own personality, he's still as much a reflection of Hiro as regular Gammamon is. He's essentially who Hiro would be if he weren't so agreeable, and absolutely could have become if he didn't remain so optimistic in the face of everything. In a lot of ways he is justified in his reasoning, it's just the shear brutality and callousness behind his actions that keeps you from rooting for him as an anti-hero.
In the Dimon RP, I’m currently running a big part of the story. Is that a lot of the partner did you? Did you evolve into like one off war until they kinda settle into their true form
Dark digievolution is always really cool it almost always has some big story importance and the designs are sick
Agreed, it's so cool!
Metalgreymon becoming becoming Machinedramon is probably my favorite because it's one of the main times where the Digimon isn't dark digivolving due to the dark feelings of the tamer, but rather it's Agumon's OWN rage at Donedevimon seemingly killing Tai that causes him to Digivolve. Yes it's influenced by the miasma but TBH i don't think it needed to be for that to happen.
It felt more like the Miasma was the Catalyst for the evolution. If he had the power to evolve on his own, he would have, but the miasma simply caused the almost incomplete evolution.
Knowing nothing about Digimon, this video was very interesting to listen to!
I also don't regret rewatching it with automated subtitles
Was wondering if you would talk Frontier! I agree on Duskmon and Velgemon. Would almost be tempted to count the first time Takuya became Vritramon considering just how out of control he was, but it is a stretch tbh.
It's been so long since we see a summary about Dark Digivolution
3 years! Lots to catch up!
@@Karn_EXno gatomon also digivolve in ophanimon also in digimon adventure 2020, also ophanimon is digimon frontier I think ophanimon is the original. Digivolution of gatomon one side evolution is dragon form
That's one of the reason why I love 2020 for finally showing the branch evolutions, seeing angemon actually almost become a new neodevimon was insane
Thanks for summing it all up again!
And once again, Happy Spooktober Spectacular muwahahahahah!!!
>:)
(really liked the not the bees intro)
I'm pumped that you included the darktyranomon. That characters' story is one of the ones I remember the most from playing digimon as a kid
Yeah, I also can't forgive Shuji... also loved the Kingdom Hearts reference in there mate 😁
I think my favourite thing about dark digivolution is that each digimon on this list safe the mode changes are digimon that could be entirely reasonable and righteous digimon. Skullgreymon could be what happens when a ghost or undead digimon digivolves to ultimate. The thing that makes dark digivolution bad is that not only do both tamer and digimon lose control of the situation, but also that it is agony for the digimon.
Guilmon becoming Megidramon is just as you said, likely the intended and destined mega for that line, and just as many other digimon are said to be strong enough to destroy the digital world, Megidramon could just exist there, as not a problem to anyone.
We need to see more "bad digimon" as main characters and maintain the darker line while still being the good guys. I like the concept of a Keramon, or demidevimon or other traditionally bad rookies eventually becoming things like Velgrmon or Titamon.
We need full dark digivolution lines
Would you count in 'Digimon World' where if you have a partner Angemon that loses a fight it can digivolve into Devimon? Was the coolest thing that ever happened to me as a kid playing that game.
there's also a chance for metalgreymon to turn into skullgreymon after death and any rookie that dies can turn into bakemon on death.
metalgreymon turning into skullgreymon is not a real dark digivolution tho, since both are ultimate level.
in that case it just turns "bad" cos you didn't take care of him or something. Same goes for Angemon/Devimon in that regards.
Really think adventure 2020 missed an opportunity with the angemon/devimon twin thing to have them merge and create a new lucemon that is less expressly evil. Like Lucemon Redemption Mode or something like that
Ohhhh! That sounds awesome!
Thank you for going over the dark digivolutions. Learned something new!
"He took a little tumble" is dark enough for me
GulusGamamon might be one of my favorite digimon of all time, from both a design and lore perspective. I also love how Proximamon is kinda just one of the most powerful digimon around
Man I gotta replay survive and do the wrath route, it's the only route I never did, and during spooky month I can't think of a better time
Hell yeah!
I think the scariest Dark Digivolution for me was Guilmon's in Lionheart. AWESOME fight scenes and dialogue, though! LOVED it when Growlmon's eyes turned cat-like and we got a FULL CLOSE-UP of that! Steve Blum NAILED those scenes, especially with... "Ah...ah...ah...but he...was just trying to help us and you... *growls* Especially performing those growls! That gave me shivers especially when Takato and WarGrowlmon screamed in unison!
You make my week much better with each video you post.
Happy to hear that!
Since a Dark Digivolution tends to come from the darkness in the humans heart, you could make the argument that Takuya becoming Flamemon was a sort of Dark Spirit Evolution. Instead of the usual rage or sadness, he is overwhelmed by fear and tries to run away from the Digital world.
The Karn’s laying the Smackdown
I think in digimon story, the Dark Evolution would technically be Pagumon to BlackAgumon, as he was already starting to shift by the time he became dark Tyranomon. His true "fated" line was to eventually become an Antylamon.
But also in the same game there's a brief dark evolution of an AtlurKabuterimon to GranKuwagamon. But it's gone so fast it's not even a fight.
gulusgammamon is my personal favourite because he is actually intelligent thers more to him than just being a rage filled evolution, and he got to apprer more often
love your take would love to see more dark digivolution in the future series
You know, now that I think about it, it would've been cool to see a Dark Armor evolution in 02. Davis infected by a spore and making Veemon digivolve into GhostFlamedramon or something like that. Wormon being pushed to digivolve by the emperor and it corrupts the Kindness armor, would've been cool
Loving the spectacular so far. Can't wait to see what comes out next week
Thank you!
For the longest time, I thought that Calmaramon WAS a corrupted/wrong Beast Spirit of Water because she felt so different from Ranamon and AncientMermaidmon. In Frontier, an emphasis was put on Ranamon's beauty, and AncientMermaidmon looks conventionally attractive as well. Meanwhile, Calmaramon is known to be considered hideous by others. Looking back, I know it doesn't make much sense since Ranamon had to find her Beast Spirit but that's what I used to think.
Not to be edgy , but damn is dark digivolving one of the best thematic devices in digimon tool box (in my opinion)
OMG THE FIRST DARK DIGIVOLUTION VIDEO WAS THE FIRST ONE I EVER WATCHED OF YOU
Wow!
A friend talk me largely about this, i see digimons as data packages so is alot easier than kos think.
They are easily influence by Tamer emotions, this is part of the unnatural way of evolution, with tamers they literally cut ways to evolve (this is actually a bad thing but tangent) but when the desires of the tamer are opposite to the usual, that "evil" energy gets on the path of evolution mutating the data package and bringing a new evolution full by dark desires.
Not every dark evolution is bad, only those obtain through this bad fellings are bad, is even possible to have a wendimon or a Darkdramon as partner and those still your friends.
A like this franchise a lot.
Happy Spooky Sunday Karn EX!
Dark Evolution is scary but so fun to explore.
Dark digivolution = must click!
Thank you!
Oooh! What if every Digidestined got one more member?
Dark Digivolution is peak
Agreed!
It makes me wonder a bit: Taking the relationship between Greymon and Tyrannomon as the main line: Tyrannomon is seen as what you get when you raise Agumon imperfectly and have care mistakes. There should be a distinction here: SkullGreymon is less about Care Mistakes, and more about Care Failures (which is a phrase I'm making up here to refer to purposeful and/or malignant mistakes you make as opposed to normal Care Mistakes that might be performed due to just being an inexperience trainer). You can raise a Greymon perfectly with the mind towards getting MetalGreymon, but the Care Failure is when you overtrain your Greymon to only care about fighting, when you try to take shortcuts and force them to train without rest, and when you try to punch above your weight class and force the Greymon to become overly injured without caring for it.
Perhaps a new video idea would be "What if we got to see each Adventure digimon in both Care Mistake (Imperfect) Evolution and Care Failure Evolution lines?" This would be spearheaded by the Agumon line, where "Care Mistake (Imperfect)" evolution results in the Tyrannomon line, while the "Care Failure" evolution would go down the BlackGreymon line.
Don't know if it was in the UK but I knew about virus metalgreymon because of digimon world 1. The game came out with virus metalgreymon as the case cover along with images of it on the back of the case. Game came out roughly before we saw virus metalgreymon in the anime.
I got home from my walk and there's a new video, yes!
Woot!
Honestly i really want an example of a digimon partner where the dark digivolution be the official permanent evolution kinda like-
Imagine if the dark digivolution was permanent BUT it was used to tell a story of growth and acceptance
Imagine a human partner with complex emotions hurting and that influences their digimon but as they grow and learn that hurting is okay the evolution takes on a more positive light instead of being a terrifying idea
FINALLY DARK DIGIVOLUTION
Another prodigious video Karn! I remember the 1st time I saw skullgraymon lol keep up the good work
Thanks! Will do!
Wow, what a video. But as a digi fan this was worth the watch, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
The adv 2020 mugendramon appearance is easily my favourite dark evolution because of how it shows how much Agumon cares for Taichi along with being snapped out of his anger by Angemon.
And on the subject of adv 2020, it's interesting that the holy digimon are both subject to trauma through captivity and being forced to become skullknightmon. And they have to rely on their partners to overcome it.
Skullgreymon ends up being my favourite digimon because of adventures and glad to see it still got loving years later.
5:20 megidramon was menacing, but the one thing that terrified me about the episode was how takato's digivice shattered.
I remember having one of the original Digimon pets. I loved that thing.
I wish we got to see DinoBeemon in 02 as a dark DNA digivolution since it pretty much is an "evil" version of Paildramon. But then again, Ken has really suffered way too much for an 11 year old already.
I love Genai's speech at the end of Adventure pertaining to SkullGreymon
Another great video
Nuh uh! You forgot [obscure reference]!
Dammit!
My dad lost a bunch of money in Vegas and came back to the hotel room and got drunk. He dark digivolved to Domesticviomon
This deserves more likes hahaha
Megidramon is still one of my all time favs along with Beelzemon in terms of design and it’s a shame that they’re almost never utilized in the various games
I'd like to see a new series focusing on dark digimon and the acceptance of the bad emotions inside them but staying dark digimon. Shadow isn't always bad Light isn't always good.
I do love how things like this show that Davis was the true best leader of the group. The only one not to fall to Darkness and in fact overcame it and forgave the darkness in the emperor when everyone else outcasted him
there's way more Digimon stuff than I thought existed
Glad to show you more of it!
Really complete video! I don't think you missed anything big, though I do have a couple of things to correct/add.
Probably the biggest Digimon that you didn't talk about here is Devitamamon, who is specifically said to be a Dark Evolution of Digitamamon in its Digimon Reference Book profile. Still, this is outside the adaptations which you focused on.
Other than that, for specific series:
-Lopmon does appear in Hurricane Touchdown/The Golden Digimentals! He has a brief cameo in the epilogue for the movie, though only in the Japanese version, Digimon the Movie cuts this out entirely in favour of the cringy dance scene.
-Xros Wars anime indeed has no Dark Evolutions per-se, but I'd count Forced DigiXros as the most similar thing, being a clearly evil version of DigiXros that transforms Digimon against their will. The manga version is even closer considering how it corrupts and breaks the minds of its users (or user, since only SkullKnightmon does it).
-On Tri, while Meicrackmon: Vicious Mode is considered a "Mutation" by official material, it has been called a Dark Evolution once! The Battle Spirits collab card for Meicrackmon VM's flavour text, to be exact. "Meicoomon's Dark Digivolution. She wishes to destroy the world, as she sees everything as her enemy."
-You rushed through the games which I feel it's a bit of a waste since there are two very interesting examples there. Story is the first, while BlackAgumon evolving to DarkTyranomon is only specified as a Dark Evolution later on by Pagumon (the reborn BlackAgumon), it's kind of a complete opposite to the usual take on the concept - Pagumon specifically states he Dark Evolved because he lacked a good Tamer, not because a Tamer made him run wild. The other thing I'd like to focus on is Survive, while you did point out the specific cases, Survive is the one piece of media that actually explores and explains what a Dark Evolution is in detail. Quoting Wikimon here (and quoting myself since I wrote it in the first place), "Minase Akiharu theorizes that the evolution of Kemonogami is linked to human children is heavily affected by said children's emotions. As such, an unstable mind, caused by such thing as fear, anger, sadness, or suppression, can cause their Digimon to evolve into uncontrolled forms."
I like how when you bring up the beast spirits it's always an image of Burning Greymon.
Honestly he just has the most easily accessible images lol
Worst DARK Digivolution,is the lack of Digimon-Games this Year☠️
Agreed
I don't think Gulusgammamon really qualifies as a Dark Digivolution; the finale of Ghost Game seemed to make it pretty clear that Gulusgammamon was a separate entity, a sapient infection of sorts that took some aesthetic cues from Gammamon's line but otherwise remained its own thing. (Kinda like the alien half of Venom, now that I think about it.)
This, to me, is further evidenced by two key differences between Skullgreymon and Gulusgammamon. Firstly: Skullgreymon was irrational, driven by pure instinctive aggression to destroy anything that mildly inconvenienced him; by contrast, Gulusgammamon was calm, precise and efficient, demonstrating a will so cold and calculating that it was almost serene. Secondly: when Skullgreymon's rampage ended, the first thing Koromon did was apologize for letting this burning rage overtake him; when Gulusgammamon reverted after his first appearance, Gammamon acted like he'd just woken up from fainting and went right back to mourning Bokomon, with no indication that he even remembered anything after Bokomon's death.
Funny thing with Megidramon, but considering side lore there's evidently a non-berserker Megidramon that's part of a group of Dragon digimon. Which lends credence to Megidramon being Guilmon's 'proper' natural endpoint, and that getting there in a more natural, unforced way, is what gets you the sane variant.
Skullgreymon ❤
Now that you talk a bit about the Digital Hazard on the Dark Digivolution of WarGrowlmon; will you ever make a video dedicated to the Digital Hazard? As I started getting into Digimon this year, the Digital Hazard was one of the things that I had the most difficult time understanding/finding good explanations for. And honestly you are pretty much the only channel I use as my guide on my journey to become a true Digimon fan so it would be great if you made a video about it
I haven't been in the digimon fandom since I was 9. I fell back in, but it's the deep end of the pool.
Welcome back! Anything I can help with let me know :)
Since you kept saying you'd probably miss one, I was keeping my eyes open for the black Gaogamon in the manga. xD I didn't know about Garurumon Dark Digivolving to ShadowWereGarurumon in the virtual pets, though. That's really cool!
I could swear I remember some dark digivolution in V Tamers, but I can't put my finger on it.
And no I'm not talking about Arkadimon (Ultra), that one is technically evolving as intended.
"he took a little stumble" made me snicker
Honestly some of these were scary especially meicoomon she almost killed everyone and same for a few others.
In the first Digimon world game that was for the PlayStation, the blue colored Metalgreymon virus type was the version that showed up not only in the game, but also in the CG opening cut scene. And I had played the first Digimon world game before I ever saw the anime. So when I saw Metalgreymon as an orange color, I was confused as heck. When I got the trading cards and saw the two different versions and saw that one was a vaccine and the other was a virus type that’s when it clicked. Then when they got to this episode in the anime where finally shows the two different versions I like that.
My personal theory about the Digital Hazard is that Takato is the vessel and because Guilmon came from Takato, Megidramon reincarnated through Takato.
Ordinemon's fusion is one of the most disturbing to watch, literally forcing Ophanimon and Raguelmon's bodies together - it unsettles me every time I watch it.
Man i remember as a kid SkullGreymon terrified the hell out of me
i reckon the hazard mark growlmon has is because its *technically* not a digimon like agumon, renamon ect, it was created out of nowhere by a drawing so it could have MANY errors that we dont know about, the mark being one of them
Huh, I never actually noticed the Guilmon drawing didn't have the Digital Hazard. I do think it might suggest Meggidramon is as invasive to Takato's intent as the hazard itself.
9:02 what even IS the difference between fusion and DNA Digievolution anyway?
Great video as always!
I believe (at least based on what I remember of the Japanese terms) that "fusion" doesn't advance the level (eg the Megas WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon becoming the also Mega (except when they say he isn't) Omnimon) whereas "DNA Digivolution"/"Jogress" involves raising the level (eg the Champions ExVeemon and Stingmon becoming the Ultimate Paildramon)
Of course, this is from a while back and may not still hold, but that's the risk you take...
@@michaelmann7816 The original Fusion of WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon into Omnimon/Omegamon was actually considered one of the first Jogress Digivolutions, with Omegamon (how I'll refer to them now) being a proper Super-Ultimate/Ultra-Level Digimon during that Battle with Diaboromon, fitting your description of Jogress Ranking-Up the Material Digimon from the Combination.
There is also a Mega-Level variant of Omegamon that is the one who exists as a member of the Royal Knights, that supposedly either isn't a Fusion of a WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon or has been Fused for so Long it's lost much of its former Power. But for most instances of Omegamon, the combination of the two Mega-Level Digimon is treated as a Miraculous event and results in an Ultra-Level Digimon that is truly the End of any battle it takes part in...
Personally, I consider Jogress, DNA Digivolution and general Fusion to be the Same Process: Two or more Digimon synchronising their Wills together to merge into a Single, much stronger Form. Digi-Xros/DigiFusion I consider to be a Bastardization of this process, using Technology to bypass the Synchronisation Requirement for a Fusion to be Initiated. While Synchronisation can still be a part of a Digi-Xros, if not present the Resulting Digimon wouldn't be as powerful as it could be - this is why many of the Shoutmon Xroses are more significantly Stronger than others. The ability to just throw any number of Digimon together might be funny but often results in an Unstable mess at best, and an Abomination or Anomaly at worst - which is why the Method only lasted 2 Seasons, and was heavily modified in the second of those Seasons...
Amazing
I hope you have a video for Halloween my birthday.
I think that all this information is very interesting.
Do more Dark evolution digimon please
Stay tuned next week :)
I always assumed Guimon got that digital hazard thing because he's not a "natural" digimon.
Like he was made using the same "system" but is like a mod.
Like when you add a character to game they aren't from.
I'd argue Sukakimon and Damedamon are Dark "Digivolutions" in Appmon, as they come about when an Applink that would normally become an Appfusion/appgattai goes wrong. Examples in show include when the 2 Appmon involved are in conflict with each other, but also when the Applidriver is expressing negative emotion (like when the girl experiences anger when the enemy Appmon shows some pictures of her). Since it can come about due to the negative emotions of the human, I'd say it's included.
They're more like the vpet fail states I talked about than Dark Digivolution, imo, but feel free to count them!
@@Karn_EX I do agree that they are styled more after the fail states (gross, useless, etc) than traditional Dark Digivolutions (demonic, skeleton, evil).
Tbf the reason gato become skullknightmon is because moonmilliummon influence it is straight up a dark evo
It's a little murky but it's countable
Dark Digivolution my favorite kind of digivolution
There is one possibly two dark digivolution you missed, the first being Professor Ryusenji death evolving Kosuke's Dorugoramon into DexDorugoramon and two I consider Shroudmon to be a dark mega for Pulsemon. Personally of the Dark Evolutions, I GulusGammamon the most. I liked her personality and he was an intelligent dark evolution.
DexDorugamon could count but idk, felt like the path it was already on. Shroudmon is darker but not inherently evil.
Genuinely laughed at Shinegreymon Ruin Mode's card effect. I never played it, but I get its anime reference.
I’m still hoping for skullgreymon to get its skullwargreymon or whatever evolution line.
Xros Wars anime gave us Madleomon and Virus Grademon. While there was digivolution they're still dark forms.
Karn just casually confirms that Gammamon dark digivolves when he sees spoilers
Exactly 😂
You should do a light/good version of all bad digimons.
The angelic dark digivolutions always resulted in fallen or demonic digimon, but I always loved how the dinosaur or draconian digimon became rampaging monsters when they went dark. It felt more dangerous than any other type. Except for the Gamma line.
Seriously, what the Abyss is up with the Gamma line?! I heard some things about what they can do, and after watching a Desdemona get shoved down Arachnemon’s throat and Pixiemon come out of an encounter with Gulus looking like he lost a fight with a stove, I’m inclined to believe that what I’ve heard was true, but HOW?! How the Abyss does digimon that isn’t part of that order of knights thing become something like that?!