Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 179): 4:04 *FAILURE* Record for 2024: 6-14 (.300) Culprit - Balla (3) dude missed like 2 months of episodes and is still near the top of the leaderboard Leaderboard: 1. Bren (4) 2. Balla (3) 3. Kurt (1) 4. mCe (1) 5. Mimi (1) 6. Paperthin (1) 7. Sean Gares (1) 8. Sideshow (1) 9. Wyatt (1) HM: 3D Gooning (1) (Gone but never forgotten)
Balla is right PRX dont need a new playstyle. They need to learn how to mentally deal with a situation when things are not going as planned and to make the necessary mid-game adjustments
Last year they dont have this issue. Even if their first plan doesnt work they always stick to their strategy. (remember vs NRG at TOKYO). Hell they even have a lot of discipline. Nobody was swinging by itself. I just think they need time to build their consistency. No need to change the whole playstyle but fixing problems that keep showing up
GenG won the tournament without dropping a game but Mimi thinks that TH who lost 3 times played the best valorant in the tournament. Make it make sense
It's nvr enough even if they fkin destroy other team 13-6,13-3,13-4 still they haven't played best valorant. On top of that if GenG didn't throw rounds on icebox it would've been 3-1. Atleast sideshow is mostly neutral in his analysis for any region GenG change up their stuff subtly match after match.
Also them praising woot so much who actually choked (also his teammates) still Mimi and Bala excused him with the rest of the performance in rest of the tournament. And discounted munchkin whose IGLing destroyed TH from the point where TH were ahead 2-1
@@maksadTohBhoolChuka Exactly. How can someone be the mvp when he didn't even performed in the finals? Sure he got the most highlights but Mvp literally stands for Most Valuable Player, so tell me how someone (he wasn't even that statically far ahead from everyone else) who didn't perform in the most VALUABLE stage of the tournament be the most valuable player??????? Make it make sense. If we're just looking at highlights and stats to tell who's the mvp of a tournament then kangkang would've been BY FAR the mvp of tokyo, Mako would've been the MVP of Reykjavik but we didn't hear those opinions from her. Like it's actually so upsetting how much she and balla tried to discredit Gen.g and their players. T3xture and meteor was the mvp of the tournament and anyone who says otherwise is just biased or delusional
Because she thought they had deeper strats and better adaptations while geng had a lot of good micro but overall the plans were pretty simple. Very easy to understand
coming out of this masters makes me so excited for champs. I don’t think we’ve have so many teams that I could 100% believe could win. With the exception of China each region has at least one team that can win a championship if not 2 and arguably even 3 if they preform to their peak
So glad y'all got an episode out, great round up. Unfortunately I'm so excited to hear the hot takes on roster moves, patches and new maps but I'll have to wait
I feel like the fact that the only #1 seed to make the top 4 being 100T is flying under the radar. I don’t think the benefits to starting in the Swiss stage are talked about enough. We’ve seen so many teams starting in the top 8 just flop. Paper Rex I think would benefit from actually being the 2# seed and warming up through the tournament
Would argue they are already but what does that matter when the cn region is far behind, the only way I would see a cn team do good is bootcamping in NA or EU I would say apac but the best scrim teams are usually booked out by prx and geng
1:41:00 I remember that post game interview with Tex like Aspas said when they're picking agents that he wanted to play Reyna and that was that. I thought LEV had problems then
Idk what it is this year, but fnc most of last year and EG by the end of champs looked like peak valorant for me. Both teams functionally looked so incredibly fluid when they were running peak form vs this year that feels somehow sloppier even from teams like sen and geng.
The game is just less structured and formulaic now after all the Skye changes and nerfs, there’s more teams able to match teams that used to be able to go deep in tournaments off of fire power alone. I do think that rosters last year felt more complete around this time but I think the general play has mostly been good, teams are just better at snowballing which leads to more blowouts
I always remembered meteor after the 2023 LCQ, he just constantly looked like he was solo carrying them through the event, but of course fell short since a single guy couldnt carry an entire team. he deserves the award too tbf
Man why is Balla such a gen.g hater? I used to think Balla had good takes, even tho I couldn't stand his voice and especially his laugh lol.. I kinda warmed up to him bc I thought his takes were solid. But man this whole episode just felt like a giant miss but especially the Shanghai part... Like trying to convince ppl that Woot deserved mvp over Munchkin or Texture, even tho TH didn't win and woot had a massive fall off in the last series when it mattered most? Like I could see if he was a total stand out and there wasn't anyone even close to the conversation, imo he doesn't HAVE TO win the whole thing, but he'd have to be just absolutely farming and trying to drag his team over the finish line single handedly.. but that's not the case at all here bc he fell off massively in the grand finals. And was it his fault completely? No ofc not, he needed to be set up better.. but that's the same for EVERY duelist. And you can't deny that there are times when a duelist isn't set up and just goes nuclear, woot had done it and so had every other top tier duelist at times in the tournament. Woot had a fantastic performance for his 1st LAN don't get me wrong, but TH also got to farm the easiest teams in the beginning too so let's be realistic.. like the DRG game just boosted his stats significantly and they also got to face FPX, who have gotten a lot better but aren't a world bester yet, these matches would've been stat farmers for any of the top 4 teams. I think if you take the DRG game out especially his stats are much more inline with others early on. Idk you just can't convince me that when the MVP race is pretty close like that, that you don't give it to the team who played amazing all tournament, didn't lose a single series and won the whole damn thing
Yeah like it's no secret he is EMEA pilled but to this degree I didn't expect that. GenG literally took down all contenders or darkshorses except PRX and FUT. And PRX didn't play their best and they were throwing rounds very much & FUT were very inconsistent anyways. Even the Chinese team GenG faced in FPX was the one who played best from their region.
PRX was the favorite heading into Shanghai and now they "can't win a Masters event" The team that won the event finished behind them in APAC. Is it likely? Probably not but a two-time runner-up and perennial favorite not being capable of winning it all? I dont see the counter-logic
Maybe prx has an NA mental block. Thinking back to last year.. they only really lost to NA teams and even this year on internationals they dropped out to NA
This might be a hot take, cause yeah G2 and 100T made top 4 and that’s great but I feel like their scores against the finalists are unacceptable. Them being in top 4 shows how strong Americas is but both teams not even being able to win 1 map (all matches being 2-0 or 3-0) is crazy. It could be chalked up to what plat chat said about TH and GenG just over performing and whatnot, but even the maps weren’t very close other than the 100T and TH first map (13-15, 100T needed that map bad). I dunno just a feel a bit disappointed the americas team weren’t able to really put up a fight towards the end. I dunno.
Bring in NZR instead of com. Com's has a style that fitted in last year's EG. Aspas' gameplay feels like he's just playing for himself, he doesn't care about the team.
i’m ngl the competition seemed so weak this masters, and i can’t foresee champs being much better with the duelist changes and new map heretics was playing with a sub and their star player on an off-role for his international debut, and geng looked so weak in their earlier matches of the tourney also g2 came THIRD at an INTERNATIONAL
plat chat, are y’all obligated by john riot to incorrectly refer to Korea as one? bc south Korea ≠ Korea. just curious why the constant omitting of the “south”. also #SaveWideMimi
Just so you know, neither Koreas have "North" or "South" in their official English names. It's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Republic of Korea.
Why is balla saying shit like the top teams on both tournaments were actually teams last year,also last years valorant wasn’t that good either everyone was pretty muddy their was no game where theirs perfect valorant it’s almost impossible to have perfect valorant because theirs so many variables
Mimi picking Woot for the Tournament MVP over Meteor or Texture, even though he bombed out in Grand Finals shows how much hatred she has towards Pacific region. Don’t like her double standard takes.
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Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 179):
4:04
*FAILURE*
Record for 2024: 6-14 (.300)
Culprit - Balla (3) dude missed like 2 months of episodes and is still near the top of the leaderboard
Leaderboard:
1. Bren (4)
2. Balla (3)
3. Kurt (1)
4. mCe (1)
5. Mimi (1)
6. Paperthin (1)
7. Sean Gares (1)
8. Sideshow (1)
9. Wyatt (1)
HM: 3D Gooning (1) (Gone but never forgotten)
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4:02
Mimi being a menace for the first 60 seconds
this episode is the lakia of plat chat episodes
Whatever Balla says the opposite always happens. PRX champions 2024 winners confirmed
I come from the future, it was not meant to be :(
i hecking love mimi
i wish she gets kicked off this show
Balla is right PRX dont need a new playstyle.
They need to learn how to mentally deal with a situation when things are not going as planned and to make the necessary mid-game adjustments
Literally the problem of both Secret and PRX. if waiting doesn't work, they swing. if swinging doesn't work, they continue to just swing.
Last year they dont have this issue. Even if their first plan doesnt work they always stick to their strategy. (remember vs NRG at TOKYO). Hell they even have a lot of discipline. Nobody was swinging by itself. I just think they need time to build their consistency. No need to change the whole playstyle but fixing problems that keep showing up
GenG won the tournament without dropping a game but Mimi thinks that TH who lost 3 times played the best valorant in the tournament. Make it make sense
It's nvr enough even if they fkin destroy other team 13-6,13-3,13-4 still they haven't played best valorant. On top of that if GenG didn't throw rounds on icebox it would've been 3-1.
Atleast sideshow is mostly neutral in his analysis for any region GenG change up their stuff subtly match after match.
Also them praising woot so much who actually choked (also his teammates) still Mimi and Bala excused him with the rest of the performance in rest of the tournament. And discounted munchkin whose IGLing destroyed TH from the point where TH were ahead 2-1
@@maksadTohBhoolChuka Exactly. How can someone be the mvp when he didn't even performed in the finals? Sure he got the most highlights but Mvp literally stands for Most Valuable Player, so tell me how someone (he wasn't even that statically far ahead from everyone else) who didn't perform in the most VALUABLE stage of the tournament be the most valuable player??????? Make it make sense. If we're just looking at highlights and stats to tell who's the mvp of a tournament then kangkang would've been BY FAR the mvp of tokyo, Mako would've been the MVP of Reykjavik but we didn't hear those opinions from her. Like it's actually so upsetting how much she and balla tried to discredit Gen.g and their players.
T3xture and meteor was the mvp of the tournament and anyone who says otherwise is just biased or delusional
Because she thought they had deeper strats and better adaptations while geng had a lot of good micro but overall the plans were pretty simple. Very easy to understand
@@maksadTohBhoolChukadestroyed when they lost 2 maps doesn’t track
1:40:16 This was EXACTLY the case when Bren was right about NRG laking a "vibes guy"... Still cant belive he got roasted for that take
coming out of this masters makes me so excited for champs. I don’t think we’ve have so many teams that I could 100% believe could win. With the exception of China each region has at least one team that can win a championship if not 2 and arguably even 3 if they preform to their peak
I have bad news
Mimi's antics make everything better
So glad y'all got an episode out, great round up. Unfortunately I'm so excited to hear the hot takes on roster moves, patches and new maps but I'll have to wait
I feel like the fact that the only #1 seed to make the top 4 being 100T is flying under the radar. I don’t think the benefits to starting in the Swiss stage are talked about enough. We’ve seen so many teams starting in the top 8 just flop. Paper Rex I think would benefit from actually being the 2# seed and warming up through the tournament
fpx will be better than edg in future
Would argue they are already but what does that matter when the cn region is far behind, the only way I would see a cn team do good is bootcamping in NA or EU I would say apac but the best scrim teams are usually booked out by prx and geng
Ah hell nah
55:52 Yes! You literally cant say 6-man rosters cant work when TH exists (even though they didnt do it on purpose)
1:41:00 I remember that post game interview with Tex like Aspas said when they're picking agents that he wanted to play Reyna and that was that. I thought LEV had problems then
Balla in shambles
im imagining w00t on iso and miniboo on neon as a double duelist combo on maybe certain maps would be crazy
LEV = the HRE is a 10/10 analogy by Mimi 😂
Mimi is clearly a secret genius with the high level shit talking that she wraps into legitimate analysis. Never ceases to impress 😂❤
Idk what it is this year, but fnc most of last year and EG by the end of champs looked like peak valorant for me. Both teams functionally looked so incredibly fluid when they were running peak form vs this year that feels somehow sloppier even from teams like sen and geng.
Skye = perfect info = more “organised” gameplay. The teams are just as good this year, the games just look “sloppier” because teams have less info
@@spiritolaminato654i don't want to but i kinda agree with the reasoning behind more sloppy play from top teams
The game is just less structured and formulaic now after all the Skye changes and nerfs, there’s more teams able to match teams that used to be able to go deep in tournaments off of fire power alone. I do think that rosters last year felt more complete around this time but I think the general play has mostly been good, teams are just better at snowballing which leads to more blowouts
You didn't watch it the split game in the finals??? That was the highest level of play we've seen in vct so far and they did it without a broken skye
@@philhwang2005 if not THE HIGHEST, I wuld say def top 3, they absolutely played around with the opp team and silenced the god damn crowd 👻
love to gurt and bibi ! miss berm 😢
I always remembered meteor after the 2023 LCQ, he just constantly looked like he was solo carrying them through the event, but of course fell short since a single guy couldnt carry an entire team. he deserves the award too tbf
Wyatt’s award looking different
By now it's not even a hot take: Heretics are winning champs since neon is getting a buff and mini boo is gonna pop
i hecking love mimi
ayyyy
57:30 Losing to talon is crazy
@members is the forbidden episode as good as I expect it to be?
It's pretty funny yeah
yeah
Man why is Balla such a gen.g hater? I used to think Balla had good takes, even tho I couldn't stand his voice and especially his laugh lol.. I kinda warmed up to him bc I thought his takes were solid. But man this whole episode just felt like a giant miss but especially the Shanghai part...
Like trying to convince ppl that Woot deserved mvp over Munchkin or Texture, even tho TH didn't win and woot had a massive fall off in the last series when it mattered most? Like I could see if he was a total stand out and there wasn't anyone even close to the conversation, imo he doesn't HAVE TO win the whole thing, but he'd have to be just absolutely farming and trying to drag his team over the finish line single handedly.. but that's not the case at all here bc he fell off massively in the grand finals. And was it his fault completely? No ofc not, he needed to be set up better.. but that's the same for EVERY duelist. And you can't deny that there are times when a duelist isn't set up and just goes nuclear, woot had done it and so had every other top tier duelist at times in the tournament. Woot had a fantastic performance for his 1st LAN don't get me wrong, but TH also got to farm the easiest teams in the beginning too so let's be realistic.. like the DRG game just boosted his stats significantly and they also got to face FPX, who have gotten a lot better but aren't a world bester yet, these matches would've been stat farmers for any of the top 4 teams. I think if you take the DRG game out especially his stats are much more inline with others early on. Idk you just can't convince me that when the MVP race is pretty close like that, that you don't give it to the team who played amazing all tournament, didn't lose a single series and won the whole damn thing
Yeah like it's no secret he is EMEA pilled but to this degree I didn't expect that. GenG literally took down all contenders or darkshorses except PRX and FUT. And PRX didn't play their best and they were throwing rounds very much & FUT were very inconsistent anyways.
Even the Chinese team GenG faced in FPX was the one who played best from their region.
hi PCV! will we get some wilkinson watchparties?
PRX was the favorite heading into Shanghai and now they "can't win a Masters event"
The team that won the event finished behind them in APAC.
Is it likely? Probably not but a two-time runner-up and perennial favorite not being capable of winning it all? I dont see the counter-logic
how long does it take before i can download?
I have the option now so, by now at the latest I guess lol
Why would u want to download it ?
@@maksadTohBhoolChuka so i can watch it on bus
Wide Mimi is hilarious
I missed the live
Maybe prx has an NA mental block. Thinking back to last year.. they only really lost to NA teams and even this year on internationals they dropped out to NA
"It's not like he choked in the finals" I'm sorry what? He didnt reach 10 kills for 4/5 maps of the finals.
We just had episode 104. Why did we skip to 179
This might be a hot take, cause yeah G2 and 100T made top 4 and that’s great but I feel like their scores against the finalists are unacceptable. Them being in top 4 shows how strong Americas is but both teams not even being able to win 1 map (all matches being 2-0 or 3-0) is crazy. It could be chalked up to what plat chat said about TH and GenG just over performing and whatnot, but even the maps weren’t very close other than the 100T and TH first map (13-15, 100T needed that map bad). I dunno just a feel a bit disappointed the americas team weren’t able to really put up a fight towards the end. I dunno.
I forgot LEV went to masters 😂 they flopped so fast lol
Mimi is a national treasure
Bring in NZR instead of com. Com's has a style that fitted in last year's EG. Aspas' gameplay feels like he's just playing for himself, he doesn't care about the team.
I need to know what to think about fnatic. Please discuss.
What do you think ?
Mimi the goblin holyyy
CAN WE GET ONE MORE MEMBER
WIDEMIMI CANT HURT YOU DONT WORRY
BBL Sliggy and Grippy Seth were great guests 😊
Bala: Pacific is dogshit
*GenG becomes best team of 2024 yet*
Well, emea in 2023 won 2 tournaments because of fnc but emea were dogshit last year
The only team at shanghai that could've beat gen g was prx baby, call me nuts idc it's the truth
i’m ngl the competition seemed so weak this masters, and i can’t foresee champs being much better with the duelist changes and new map
heretics was playing with a sub and their star player on an off-role for his international debut, and geng looked so weak in their earlier matches of the tourney
also g2 came THIRD at an INTERNATIONAL
Team heretics is replicating Prx’s last year run and will come in second at champs just like Prx did
Also, achillios and paperthin deserved to cast the geng winner but riot loves to do random shit
Champs semifinalists: KC, T1, NRG and Loud
T1??? 😭😭😭
@@cameront011 no questions about it 😼
@@glorpfan12345there are no questions, correct. You are just wrong 💀
There will be atleast one korean team in top 4 though
Add Bilibili
mimi is the peoples champion.
I love how Achilios is just openly racially biased. Like if he was that way about his own race it wouldnt be accepted
plat chat, are y’all obligated by john riot to incorrectly refer to Korea as one? bc south Korea ≠ Korea. just curious why the constant omitting of the “south”. also #SaveWideMimi
true, it's very important to deliniate! viewers who might be less familiar may think that they are talking about the north korean valorant scene!
@@iuriepripa3171not even remotely close to my point at all but as long as u got a kick out of yr joke lol /nm
Just so you know, neither Koreas have "North" or "South" in their official English names. It's the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Republic of Korea.
pacific Yippie
Why mimi unwided?
Why is balla saying shit like the top teams on both tournaments were actually teams last year,also last years valorant wasn’t that good either everyone was pretty muddy their was no game where theirs perfect valorant it’s almost impossible to have perfect valorant because theirs so many variables
I disagree but it's actually not the teams fault, it's mostly because skye got nerfed. She was the perfect initiator
@@archanagavli8628 wrong comment or u are off ur rocker idk which
Global ain't winning Sideshow
GenG are no way near EG last champs, people are overreacting massively
balla has the most brain dead takes, woot had way less suport than what miniboo gets
G2 overperformed like crazy
No real pANcada back to Loud reaction? Come on guys
Mimi picking Woot for the Tournament MVP over Meteor or Texture, even though he bombed out in Grand Finals shows how much hatred she has towards Pacific region. Don’t like her double standard takes.
Bro didn't even listen
Miimii
Mimiiiiii
China can scrim against korea or Japan just like in league. Why does she talk out of her ass like this in public 😢
not gonna lie masters shanghai was the worst casted event so far. Bren and Sideshow are just the best
Can we stop using VLR to look at standings when Liquipedia is right there (and has the standings correct too!)
Damn balla has the worst takes about anything abd everything.
where is my mimi emote?