NEW Subaru BRZ tS not SPECIAL ENOUGH!!
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- NEW Subaru BRZ tS not SPECIAL ENOUGH!!
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"Nothing crazy" would be a great description of it.
Nothing special is a better descriptor.
We must bring back the redesigns on the main channel. I do miss it
So do I.
The Sketch Monkey? Same guy I think….
This could be the sports car or the century but it's always so watered down. I wish the young engineers in these companies had more power to shake things up.
Just K swap it bro lol. Thats what ima do with mines. That fixes all the oil, reliability, and power issues. ✅
@@wetbred6677 jUsT k sWAp iT bRo
@@wetbred6677 your sure about that buddy lmao
@@wetbred6677not everyone got access to shop or afford their car sitting in the shop for months
There’s no point to engine swap a new car. You can literally buy a run down FA20 . Put a new engine and FA24 Body Kit for Half the Price
the cat tail😭😭😭
As a BRZ owner and frequent message board dweller, the stock car actually makes closer to 250hp stock according to dozens of owners' independent dyno charts. I think Toyota didn't want to put the real number because it would be too close to the Supra's 255hp on paper (which is actually underrated as well). It's an NA engine, so there's really not much more tuning they'd be willing to do from the factory. Much like the last gen, I'm sure when/if this gets a power bump it will be 5-10hp claimed. Of course you can do a quite a bit more than that with an aftermarket tune though. Anyway, don't let the "228hp" fool you. This car is faster than it seems on paper.
*250hp at the crank. Most stock dynocharts are getting 200-210hp at the wheels. Considering about 16% drivetrain loss, that puts you at about 250bph at the crank.
@@Chickentenddies which is what I just said lol. Not sure what the point of this reply is.
@@soilent9618 The point of the reply was to explain to people who might not know the difference between power at the wheels vs power at the crank. What toyota underrated was not the power at the wheels but at the crank.
@@jonathanwrx7805ok Honda fanboy I use to own Honda's too but boy are those Honda fanboys toxic think they faster then everybody on the road.
@@jonathanwrx7805 All the cars you mention are turbocharged though the gr86/brz is now the most powerful NA 4 cylinder up to date, overtaking the s2000 in both torque and maybe HP. I used to own a Honda eg hatch and ITR dc2. I now own a gr86 and it feels just like my old ITR that I regrettably sold years ago. Apart from the fact that the Gr86 is rwd and the ITR is fwd, it has the same raw driver focus feel that all the new Hondas these days lack. That's one of the reasons I didn't buy any Honda products made since the early 2000s. The Toyota gr86 stole my heart.
The GR86 you’re showing here isn’t the new Trueno edition, this is the 2023 10th anniversary special edition announced last year. The 2024 Trueno has Brembo brakes and upgraded suspension, a different graphics kit, and interior accents.
Not much coverage for this, thanks for bringing this up.
Shows the lack of validity of this dude, lol
@@dadadadada4974lmao yeah
Your cat always shows up for the video
You are very talented mate 🙂👍 ... what brand and model gold wheels are those that you photoshopped onto your version of the BRZ TS ???...and what wing is that ?...keep up the good work
The more I look at the front end, the more I start to like it. Its so happy. BRZ definitely looks more on the cute side than the GR86
I honestly like how friendly the BRZ's face is
More important than these upgrades should be the reliability upgrades for this engine for the track. So many failures are reported that they did not fix under warranty.
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I made one comment of rtv to my dealer and they pulled the pan, cleaned rtv, re-sealed and sent me pictures of everything all at no cost. Very glad I went with subaru.
@@evandewitt4036lucky bastard
Nonsense. Only Americans are having these reported issues and I wonder why. I am currently watching the Japanese GR86/brz cup race and so far not a single failure. Same with the GRNA cup. These cars are being raced hard and not a single failure on track. Nowhere in JDM market or EUDM market there are reports of RTV or oil starvation blowing up engines.
Of course, there is going to be an acceptable failure rate just like any other cars on the market but the idea of massive failures on these cars is simply not true. Just Americans blowing shit out of proportion and over reporting a non-issue.
I think the striping refers to older Toyota coupes , the old Celica liftback and the Carina coupe. (. Around 1975) They had two air outtakes.
This is pretty much in line with all the other Ts models they have made in the past, or the "Series Blue" or "Series Yellow". I have a '17 Limited with the "performance package", which added Brembo brakes, Sachs dampers, and slightly wider wheels (probably to fit the Brembo brakes). It was a bargain package at $ 1200, but I knew they hadn't tarted up the drivetrain. Surprisingly, the colored stitching on the seats doesn't add any HP or torque.(sarcasm font enabled) I had a chance to buy a Series Yellow when I bought the Limited with PP, and other than being stuck with a yellow exterior and the stitching, it had nothing mine doesn't have. The Series Yellow was stickered at 32-33K. I drove mine off for under 28K in early 2018. Apparently nobody wanted BRZ's at that time.
“I should show everyone my bootyhole.” - the cat
Saw it at Subiefest, got to wait for the numbers but it doesn't seem like much of a change other than brakes and eye sight.
What made the 2018 BRZ tS stand out from the rest of the later tS models is that it was designed alongside the '18 WRX STI type ra. So almost all the aero and suspension ques that went into the '18 Type RA ' were incorporated into the '18 brz tS. It is just more of an aggressive look than the later models despite the hp stats--which can always be tuned if so desired.
Did they fix the oil pan issue?
The one thing about the new brz/86 is that the rear has that weird black bar between the tail lights. They either need to make it a lightbar (like what it looks like they were trying to mimic) or get rid of it completely
You can get a light bar aftermarket.
Hey I think it looks great it gives me AE86 vibes specifically the sprinter trim it also has a black bar throughout the whole tail light
You can make these angrier and at that point they look way better than the GR86.
I wish the ts have blue and yellow/gold wheels to match that sti style
I had to put my cat to sleep she had a tumor in her ear i adopted her in 2013 when i moved and her breed is europian shorthair
2:30 idk about the brz, but on my gr86, the "lane keep assist" is just a beep noise, and doesn't effect the steering whatsoever.
do you know if the ts is only coming in manual?
And don’t look at the Japan brochure for these, it is brutally awesome. All sorts of crazy STI upgrades. At least a lot of those will trickle into the mod market.
It would be sick if toyota and subaru agreed to make one hardcore preformance model for each name plate. Like toyota would send their gr86 to yamaha and it would get a wild screaming 4 pot boxster motor and subaru would just s209ify a brz. These would cost 50k if not more.
Why didn't you talk about the Tureno? It's a little different to both of these.
the lane assist just beeps- not a big deal. sometimes it is helpful when you are not paying attention to the road. (i have the 2024 brz-ts). it is a great car for the money.
It’s perfect to me. Was already one of the best modern enthusiast cars at any price point. now with some brembos and some STI tuned suspension 🤘🏼🤘🏼. I need one
Lots of upgrades
Subaru Canada, Inc. is pleased to announce the performance-focused 2024
Subaru BRZ tS made its Global Debut at Subiefest California on Sunday, July 23. The new trim level offers
the best performance and handling capability in a BRZ ever thanks to STI-tuned suspension and a
Brembo braking system. For the first time, EyeSight Driver Assist Technology is now standard on a
Subaru model equipped with a manual transmission. With 2024 marking the return of the BRZ tS to the
model line, this top trim level will be available nationwide at Subaru dealerships early next year.
The BRZ tS comes equipped with STI-tuned front and rear Hitachi dampers to maximize its lightweight,
ultra-low centre of gravity and precision handling, resulting in greater flexibility and better control and
stability. A high-performance Brembo braking system, including gold-painted 4-piston front calipers,
gold-painted 2-piston rear calipers and larger pads and rotors, enhances stopping power, fade
resistance, and pedal feel. The BRZ tS also has 18-inch wheels mounted with 215/40 R18 Michelin Pilot
Sport 4 tires for superior grip and quicker turn-in.
Offered for the first time on any Subaru model with a manual transmission is EyeSight Driver Assist
Technology. The award-winning safety system includes Adaptive Cruise Control, Pre-Collision Braking
System, Lane Departure and Sway Warning, and Lead Vehicle Start Alert. All 2024 Subaru BRZ models
equipped with a manual transmission will include EyeSight as standard equipment.
The latest generation BRZ has bold styling that is as impressive as its handling prowess. The overall
impression is modern, agile, and powerful, with focused and functional aerodynamic details. The tidy
coupe design cuts through the air with a low and wide frontal area set off by large functional air intakes
and a low grille capped by proud fender arches that allow just enough room for suspension points. At
the rear of the car, the large rear fenders and wide track flow into dual exhausts for a low and wide
stance. This visual heft is lightened by a narrow greenhouse and rear deck that flow into a dramatic
upturned “ducktail” rear spoiler.
Externally, the BRZ tS is distinguished by tS badging in the front grille and on the rear decklid. The
exterior foldable mirrors and roof-mounted shark fin antenna come in a Crystal Black Silica finish. The tS
will be available in the same colours as the other 2024 BRZ models, all of which will be complemented
by standard 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels in a unique dark grey finish.
Inside, the BRZ tS cabin is wrapped in black upholstery with tS-only contrasting blue stitching on the
front seat bolsters, leather-wrapped steering wheel, shifter boot and parking brake boot. Standard
performance-design front seats with height-adjustable head restraints feature a blue leather accent
down the middle. The leather-wrapped steering wheel integrates control switches for audio, cruise
control and Bluetooth. BRIN NAUB nubuck-like material enhances the instrument panel visor and door
trim. The iconic STI logo is displayed on the red starter button and customizable 7-inch digital
instrument cluster, also updated with tS-exclusive red accents.
The 2024 BRZ tS is powered by the platform’s 2.4-litre naturally aspirated 228-hp SUBARU BOXER engine
paired with a six-speed close-ratio manual transmission. The BRZ comes equipped with a comprehensive
list of standard features including a TORSEN limited-slip differential, Keyless Access with Push-Button
Start, LED steering-responsive headlights with High Beam Assist and automatic height adjustment,
Vehicle Stability Control with Track Mode, dual-zone automatic climate control, Hill Start Assist, power
fuel-door lock, power windows with auto up/down and pinch protection, centre console storage box
with dual USB-A input/charge ports and auxiliary input jack, variable intermittent windshield wipers with
speed-sensing mist feature, and Welcome Lighting.
Based on the Sport-tech trim, the tS also includes heated exterior power mirrors, an upgraded audio
system that includes a 2-channel amplifier and two additional speakers, Blind-Spot Detection with Lane
Keep Assist and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert, and STARLINK Safety and Security.
Because black wheels are just to common
I think the front bumper license plate bracket on the brz is aesthetically unforgiveable unfortunately
Why there is cat , lol . I think
The first gen brz looks like a mini Ferrari California. The second generation looks like a sporty Honda civic
It dynos at 248hp so the power is there, the Supra both the 4&6 dyno 30 hp higher than officially listed
Genuinely curious your dislike for black wheels.
Only reason I ask is you’re not the first person I’ve heard talk about that. Racing team owner I work with prefers graphite or silver wheels on his race cars.
waiting for the BRZ 22B
more sturdy internals would help
While I love the ducktail, I think an easy differentiation could have been removing it on the BRZ and making room for a proper Subaru wing. Plenty of missed opportunity to change front-end graphics and trim the vents on the sides differently too.
A large Subaru wing looks ugly on the BRZ.. it doesn't fit at all unlike the WRX
The tS version of this 2nd-gen BRZ is not a “special edition” like the last generation - which is a 500 makes only. This is now going to be a trim-level option if that makes sense. If you have drove the car, you will notice that the power to weight ratio is pretty decent (commute, track, street, fun/$). All of us can drive a fast car fast, but not many can drive a slow car fast.
People overlooked the market both Subaru and Toyota target.
When the 2nd-gen BRZ was just released, Subaru had an interview video of why they would not boost the car (ie. COG, larger engine bay, pricer than the targeted market). Not to mention that this car costs as much as those family budget SUVs (ie. RAV4, Forester, Outback). These are not competing against the Supras, Nissan Z or sports car in that range.
The moment they make a bigger engine, boost it, more power, add a spoiler, and better looking wheels, like what was shown in the video (which is very subjective and I do not find it looks “cool” at all); the moment this car is no longer a BRZ we know about. Simply because this will significantly add weight, unnecessary costs (bringing the MSRP way up), and compromise the handling that they had been targeting. Let alone a spoiler like that do nothing but purely cosmetic (again it’s subjective) for a non-track car. I really appreciate Subaru for focusing on the goal they set at day one, otherwise this will be an extremely weird Frankenstein car.
They should of added a dry sump oil system so they stop blowing up on turns.
I don't know why everyone is complaining about the new tS, especially for $35k. The only reason Subaru sells any BRZs at all is because it's an excellent performance car value. If they added everything all the so called enthusiasts are whining about, it would cost north of $40k and literally no one would buy it because then you're getting too close in price to better options. People need to have some common sense when evaluating a niche, low volume vehicle like this. We're lucky this thing exists at all and it won't for much longer.
Have yet to see the subie on the road. Everyone has the gr.
The next refresh needs a place to put your phone for manual owners and more accessible cup holders. Thats about all.
tS != STI.
STI models typically have significant upgrades across the entire car. tS is usually just a basic suspension, brake, and visual upgrade.
You gonna need a Mr. Fantastic shirt 🤣😂🤣🙌🏼
Or just "lookin fantastic" aha
Not expecting too see cat ass both during the video and in reality at the same time lol 😂
Compared to the 2017 BRZ tS... This one seems really lazy. Kind of disappointed in Subaru, but I'm at least happy they brought it back
Should have compared it to the Trueno edition, not the SE.
You are so, so, SO smart 🙂 ... so, what and for which major car company you designed???
Did any of them accept even an idea from you???
On another note... Mitsubishi Hyundai and Nissan should codevelop a Nissan GTR and call it a Mitsubishi Eclipse, Hyundai N, and Infinity GTR, respectively.
The real issue is these special editions are about doing as little as possible to make it special to increase the profit margins. Has nothing to do with giving buyers an actual special version of the car.
Special editions of anything should have a) restyling b) upgraded suspension c) hp bump d) limited production
It's funny that they always put turbo on other cars but not this car cause most there cars and suv are heavy
I actually love how understated the Subaru is. I prefer it when a special edition car doesn't announce itself to the whole world.
Seems like it would be cheaper to buy the base model and change out the suspension and brakes yourself.
It is super special. I just bought one. And I have had all the best sports car ever made. So, you would be wrong.
I need a compilation of bembli's cats appearing on the videos
I have the GR86 and love it but anyone can tell all the special edition are nothing special at all. You can turn any normal GR86/BRZ into into a special edition lol
The special edition is virtually unobtainable so it almost doesn't matter.
Could’ve at least added a better exhaust
they should have made it like the car in the thumbnail…
The car should have come with the brembos from the beginning
The first gen BRZ looks like an FD RX-7.
From this video: the biggest change to the new BRZ is the black cat tail.
The Ts is a new trim level; not a special edition.
If this made 300 stock it would be like the best new car
It actually does.*
*with a JDL turbo kit at 5psi or so.
Why is Subaru staying away from STi?
Okay so they are just trying to be cheap because it sells like dook compared to everything else. Then don’t be secretive and give measurements and add ons galore with 3rd party companies! This car looks so much better than it performs with a boxer engine the most picky detail oriented engine to tune. No wonder people have problems with Subaru and boxer engines. This isn’t special its just the same car with slight improvements
BMW plz take notes on how to design a car with styling🙃🙃🙃
255hp is good 207 torque would be good
I wish Subaru would make something to compete with Supra
If this was KIA Hyundai, you’d be celebrating it as the greatest design in modern history.
Why doesn’t Toyota or Subaru just turbo the engine or bore it out. Most people agree this thing is underpowered anyway.
This car need 2 things. Rims and sound.
It’s a car. Next car please…
No STI, so TS instead
Just more rice for a higher price…
@Bembli - how can you not get over the BRZ’s goofy smiley face? The GR86 will always look better no matter how much you start getting used to the complex style of the front end of the BRZ. I have a 1st gen BRZ and will consider buying the GR86 before the BRZ.
The old car was much better looking. Especially the head lights and tail lights.
For everyone complaining about track reliability: this is literally a street car you can track sometimes, it’s not a track ready street car like an M3 or gt4. If you want a full on track purpose platform get ready to also pay a 20% premium that would go into a dry sump system, upgraded internals, larger fan and radiator, and adjustable suspension with camber settings. That’s without mentioning a rise in power and potentially an LSD. See what I mean? Let’s not waste our time here.
People forget that "motorsports" is not a poor man's sport lol....I think the brz is good for it's price range.
It already has an LSD.
Nah my man. You are dead wrong. This vehicle is track ready. Perfect for tracking and mounting driving. However, it is not race reading, meaning it is not a race car...
@@buntafujiwara3586 beefed up* lsd for abuse, big diff
@@Julianklaus tell that to any brz/frs/86 driver who’s witnessed the engine explode during a spirited drive lol I myself have bared witness to it firsthand on a stock car, and it wasn’t even on the track it was on a backroad. God forbid it hits a track
100% agree on the wheels. Black wheels suck. From any distance you just get a black void in the wheel well. Can't fathom why people like black wheels.
subaru wil over charge on this, they always do this for all their cars.
This car wouldn’t be so disappointing if it wasn’t overpriced. As for the design, I like it.
BRZ WRX? NO............=PASS. Just get a used base model and make it better.
Oh God! - There's nothing funnier than a nerd trying to sound cool. - He's an authority on what? Skipped to the end to confirm my suspicions. - Nothing to see here - time to move on........
young go getters
Yeah it's bland
Cat cat cat cat cat cat
Nothing special
I still don't like the design of this new generation, looks like a car my mom who couldn't care less about what she drives would buy, not a car enthusiast.
While the MK5 Supra is the ugly brother to the MK3 and MK4, it has a specific and recognizable look to it, if the new BRZ didn't have a badge I wouldn't really know it's a Subaru...
Overpriced and underpowered. They better resurrect svx with a powerful motor and conventional automatic gearbox.
Might be a bit overpriced, but underpowered? Not at all. This car is faster than a WRX and punch above its weight hanging with mustang GTs.