@@Rodoadrenalina Except demonstrably very few people stick around and play a single game for months or years (let alone mobile games like this, CoC is an anomaly). Casuals by definition rarely stick to a game for long, and if they do it's in short blasts that are never enough to get them to "endgame"...so if this is "for casuals", then it's pretty contradictory. Or, you know, the more obvious answer that anyone with a brain could figure out: it encourages you to spend cash. Almost as if that were the entire goal.
@@Rodoadrenalina how does that even make sense? If this was for casuals the drop rates would be so high. Casuals don’t play games where they have to grind like this. It’s a game for whales that will play it because they’re addicted to the grind. Speed running has nothing to do with it.
@@Rodoadrenalina So how much time / miles to walk that so called "normal people" supposed to spend for winning all the 8 star monsters ? A year? I think they will quit this game first.
The real problem with Now is the material drops. In normal Monster Hunter we've all spent hours and days grinding for that one gem with a 2% drop rate, and that can be as fun as it frustrating. But in Now, you can't even fight monsters as freely and repeatedly as you want. If there's no needed monster within my area, or the mat doesn't drop off the one I find, then that's all I can do that entire day.
There is a 13% drop rate on gold rewards and 8% on silver for Gems and Mantles when running the hunts as Investigations. So a lot of em end up being closer to 30% chance per hunt.
The main problem i have so far (most of my stuff around lvl5) is that it feels like grade 2mats are rarer then grade 3 mats and you need far more of them
thats my main complaint and stop gap for me. like every weapon i want to upgrade is stuck cause i need Monster Bone M, they feel like they never fucking drop.
Fuck you feeling bad for Capcom for, they're the ones who greenlit this project to begin with. Plus I would not be surprised if this game starts making them *dirty* as fuck money because people can and will be tempted by these insane packs. Hell, right now there's that black diablos chest that's a "one time limited offer" of fucking $15. Absolutely disgusting how much they're charging with how little you get in it.
@@Tpachal Because Capcom cares. They try(and in my opinion succeed) to make a fun and hopefully longlasting experience. I think I only know ONE other Developer team that asks about feedback and suggestions from *US*. The players. From a financial standpoint wouldn't that also be more effective? Try to make the game more enjoyable for the majority of players. We keep playing their games. They get money. win-win Capcom has definitely made questionable, sometimes maybe even dumb decisions. But in the end they made the best of it. Look how mh rise sunbreak turned out. It's the second most sold game from Capcom. Compare this to Niantic. Monster hunter now has their Name written all over it. This is how I feel about this. Maybe I don't see the whole picture here. I don't pretend to.
My main issue with the game is that I have to hunt so much to gain so little, and I am forced into 1 armor equipment because I simply can't afford getting the armor AND weapons. The only armor pieces I have are from weapons I never use, so they don't take away from each other - but this also means that I can't get a fire weapon AND fire boosting equipment right now.
They would've stuck out in app storefronts and gained reputation from mobile gamers if they just released a mainline, singleplayer, five to seven dollar game with co-op severs.
@@zacziggarot building your own is always cheaper unless you’re just getting some mass produced PC that businesses buy to stack their office spaces which could barely run a platformer
@@nyalan8385 and yet people were still complaining that they couldn't play starfield 🤔 yeah, something tells me that it's not worth the headache of tracking down all the individual parts to make my own. 4K hurts my eyes anyways
@@zacziggarotits absolutely worth it. Its literally half as expensive to build your own and its fairly easy. The first time js always the hardest and will probably take you several hours and alot UA-cam videos. Ive made 4 PCs so far and now it takes me about a hour to make them with no hassle. A hour of work and I saved over 1k USD on what my current PC would have cost minus parts? Yeah I think Ill stick to making my own.
For anyone curious, this video's a bit outdated with it's information now. Yes, Zenny is still buyable with money, but being able to sell materials in your item box for Zenny, combined with the Zenny Reward Boost at HR100 for Daily Quests, combined with the Constant Events that give you free shit for doing the most basic of tasks ! The Zenny Economy has since Sky Rocketed and it's ridiculously easy to earn Free Zenny even if you're not even trying to. Material Drops are still a bit of a struggle, but with Hunt-A-Thons now havin a Worldwide Group Hunt Feature, combined with Group Hunts granting Bonus Rewards simply for hunting with another Player, it's not quite as painful as it used to be.
the combat isn’t too bad for a mobile game I was kindof impressed. It’s kindof ridiculous to compare it to the mainline games. I enjoy this game when I don’t really focus on it too hard and play it casually just to enjoy the combat every now and then when I’m out and also to slowly work towards upgrades. That’s really all there is to it. I think obsessing over this game is a terrible idea
Was out before the Halloween event after hitting 7* I realised I was wasting my time after that. Still very good video on that topic! Thanks for showing how insane it is :D
Another problem is for some monster such as Rathalo, it only appears in the forest, which makes it much rare than others. And you need its material for your weapon, mail and greaves, some even need head or coil. Different rareility monster request same amount of materials for update is unfair. Also the damage and the attack opportunity difference between range and melee are also crazy. I could kill 7 stars Legiana with 5.4 Rathalo bow, even I got hit twice and died once, but I still have about 50% of chance couldn't kill a 6 stars Legiana with 6.5 Anjanath SnS due to run out of time. THIS ASSHOLE COULD STARTS FLYING WHEN ABOUT 60S LEFT BUT NEVER LAND, only about half of the SnS attack are on its head, the rest are either miss or on its foot. Once he dash melee weapon have to roll about 2-3 times, while range weapon just keeps attacking on weakness. FUCKING LEGIANA!
That's a fair point about monsters found in only one terrain. It reduces its spawn rate at best to ⅓ compared to the earlier monsters found in all terrains. I found myself going through the same experience with the flying monsters too. It's the bane of SNS that has been in most MH games. The wirebug system in Rise really helped out for that but alas, MHN is carted from MHW engine. I've been tempted to build a fire, ice and dragon bow set (the later requiring pink rath mats) to hunt the flying types specifically. At which point I may as well main in Bow! 🙄 Not sure how players use it so we'll when walking around in the rain.
I've had a bunch of hunts where the monster spends the last 40 seconds just running from me 😑 then my signal is spotty so my hunter starts moving like he's in molasses. If the monster runs there's literally nothing I can do about it. It faces away from me and does a charge attack, so I chase, then when I finally catch up it does ANOTHER charge attack aimed away from me. These arenas aren't exactly the kind of place you can chase a monster in
@@zacziggarot I have been stuck by 7stars diablo urgent quests for 2 weeks. There is nothing I could do with SnS. Eventhough it say its weak to paralysis, but 7.5 Girros SnS with lv3 paralysis attack couldn't even paralyze it before first time digging, also I couldn't get the 2nd paralyze. I don't know how could Niantic says this bitch is weak to paralysis. The only solution I could come up with is Legiana Bow, lv5.5 ice bow performance is close to lv7.5 Sns, such a joke.
when you start building actual elemental sets, like have your fire weapon with some armor that gives fire boost, save that as your set, do the same with other sets/elements, and you should start dishing out more dmg. elements are rly strong in this game, even on slow weapons like great swords, which isnt the case in the main series game. but i am at a point where i was able to upgrade my great jagras greatsword so much higher than everything else , i think almost rarity 8, while everything else still sits at rarity 5, that im better off always just using that.
Use bow I just started playing this game some good soul random I met on the street helped me kill 7 black diablos now I have grade 2 5 star black diablos bow now I can kill any monster up to 6* with ease
Id love to see this sent to both Capcom and Niantic. Even if niantic's rep isnt all that good when it comes to listening to players, Capcoms IS and as long as the feedback is given respectfully, Im sure capcom will put pressure on niantic to make changes
niantic wont care they want people to spend this much time so they will see the value in paying that huge price. the easier they make it to get stuff the less chance people will use there credit card which is all they want.
Honestly given how poorly developed every single game they’ve made is, I believe that capcom and Nintendo essentially signed away the rights to make any decision in terms of gameplay. They probably can say “you can’t use the brand do to that,” but if they could say “no this is not fun, you need to change this” then nintendo would’ve done so a *long* time ago
Yeah bullshit. Capcom should have known what Niantic would do especially with how they managed PoGo. Capcom saw the greens and decided to sign it off. Capcom is as responsible as Niantic for the state of the game.
Zenny isn't an issue, you'll have well over 500,000 by the time you get 90 gems 😂 Since I've upgraded my bow and hammer to 7-5 I've only gotten 3 gems and have earned over 90k zenny. With a little quick math I'll have 2.7million zenny before I have the mats to upgrade a weapon to full anyway
@@ZEFFYRooo When and if they upped the drop rates, you'll soon learn that zenny is the worst issue. While you have a heap of materials sitting in your inventory waiting to be crafted into a weapon / upgrade and no Zenny to do it.
@@Aphesiahard disagree, getting a heap of materials is far less likely. By the time I finally get enough M bones I can only level the weapon five times before I need MORE M bones. It takes me a week of playing every day to collect about 20 M bones because you get them from the resource nodes, by the time I get the next pile of M bones I'll easily have enough Zenni to upgrade to the next M bone hurdle which will take ANOTHER week or two
My main problem in this game is you cannot take down hard monsters when underpowered. Not like in the main game where even if you dont have any equipment, you can still take down difficult monsters as long as you have the skills to do it. That timer is the hardest monster to overcome in this game.
To some degree I feel like it makes a difference how quickly you want to run out of things to do in the game. I'll be curious to see what "next season" is like in MHN but, for now, I'm okay with appreciating long term goals and rewards.
Niantic is shady af. They secretly increased the wyvern gem shards needed to upgrade a weapon(it used to be 2 shards to upgrade from 7-5 to 8-1), god knows how many things they have secretly changed! Not to mention the secret tweaking of monster difficulty, most notably the Great Jagras, they made it so that its stomach is harder to break in the recent update, throwing off a lot of veteran players.
Idk if this is out dated. I started 3 weeks ago and I have a gunlance at grade 8 and I have like 250k zenny left to spare. Zenny’s seem almost worthless at the abundance I get them at.
of course it's a cash grab based on the need for another monster hunter game. They will support it for at least 1 year after the next MH game i out and then stop it probably
This game is simply raking in cash from the riches in the fan base, for future development. The real fans know how pointless of a grind is, in MHN, when you have the fun mainline games like MH4U and MHW.
Just to save everyone a google, converting Euros to USD would mean that in Europe you'd be paying about $880.00. Of course daily quests vomit mountains of zenny anyways though. Personally have yet to spend a dime on Zenny and find those calculations to be...no offense, but a little useless. The biggest issue I've had, having made it to 7 star thus far, is the item box expansion and monster rewards. I've all but ignored the zenny cost completely thus far and only spent money on paintballs other than that. Quests, especially events, give plenty of money. The exponential curve for the numbers to upgrade gear definitely needs to be lessened noticeably. Though honestly, forgetting EVERYTHING, I want one change. Higher drop rates. I'm not going to hunt down a 7 star after hours of only finding 6 and below star monsters only to get all rare 1 hide. Drop rates need improving. The screen for drop rates can extend a lot, just make it like actual hunts where you get proper lines of materials, and just make the percentage for each drop rarity chance go by star level. Zenny is irrelevant otherwise and drops are definitely the biggest problem, especially for solo play. The monsters drop absolute gutter trash and I haven't even seen more than 4 plates getting all the way to 7 star. I have never seen a single gem as well (Fanged Wyvern Gems and plates for a lot of monsters.)
Pokemon Go Players: First time? But yeah, this was to be expected and it is disappointing that capcom gave their approval in the first place. Its a mobile game like any other out there, filled with dark patterns and rife with monetization. I know it sounds a bit melodramatic, but it really is a stain on an otherwise flawless IP. Gladly enough, it looks like it is not popular at all among the MH-Fanbase.
The drop rates are so bad and it's so annoying that when you cut or break monster part they will not drop the part I think I said it right to my friends who were playing it since launch, with every update they have managed to make it worse and worse, stopped playing around lvl 51 or so
Well, looking at it now, after many events, and getting Doouble WGS plenty of times (events where the first 2 slots ares doubled) i really didnt spent alot of money yet , and im still able to beat ALL 8 Stars easily. Currently at Class 9 lv 4/5 clapping all 8s and some 9s. Having fun. >Dont need to spent money, just geting there slowly but surely :) many events getting u a looot of gold. Event pass even gives u some WGS. Even without paying, u can get there. Im focusing on a Off. Guard 5 Pukei Lance for ex. ruiling over every 8star.
@@Deathwish026I don't see how that's the case when I haven't spent any money on it and don't even feel inclined to spend money on it 🤔 Like who TF cares about upgrading to max level unless you're already up close to max level? I don't know if I'm ever going to get my hammer to max level I just need a COUPLE more levels to take out monsters more comfortably. I get enough Zenny and I get enough mats from hunts. I just need bones from desert fossil zones, you can't get those with gems. Guess I just don't understand how you think that the game just prints money when the only thing that I'm struggling to get can't be mitigated with money 😂
@@zacziggarot that's you, not the whole playerbase. why do people keep using "i i i i" it's so goddamn annoying. stop acting like you're the only player in the whole game. clearly people are still buying the macrotransactions that's why niantic ain't backing down and reducing the macrotransactions.
@@k3stea451 but why though? The store doesn't even have ANYTHING worth getting. What are people ACTUALLY buying? My best guess is the gems to double loot rewards 🤔
@@k3stea451 Can't really say "clearly people are buying stuff" have you seen the earnings report already? All these other people are talking about how they dropped the game, that doesn't bode well at all for the store. Do you KNOW the game is making money? An online store doesn't automatically make it to where they're going to make money, look at fallout 76 or that avengers game square enix shat out. Games can still fail, especially when there's diddly crap to actually spend money on that's worth it. Whole game could be headed for the scrap heap. Also where are the MACRO transactions?
I walked 15000 steps a day to trace and hunt monsters not to mentioned down time after owned by monsters and their cheap tricks of roaring constantly or fps lag that knocked me out...After 3 weeks of hunts, I am only HR44. It's so challenging to find players around that can help hunting and sometimes I had to drag monters home or somewhere crowded to find near by players lol....
Glad to see the numbers on these sorts of things. I dropped MHN once I realized it didn't respect my time and reinstalled MHWI to scratch the itch. SOOOO much better.
@@Saicofake🤮. Doing that is how the series will stagnate. In fact if they did that then we most likely wouldn't even have mhworld cause they'd just be updating an older mh game.
My old phone broke and because I had to rush to get a new one, I got the cheapest phone they had to offer. Turns out it couldn't run MHN. I was upset at first but now not so much.
Let's not forget the item space 😭 I'm a solo player fighting 7⭐ but I have no luck with the stuff I need to keep leveling up. I had to buy up to 7k space because I knew that deleting items was gonna hurt me In the future and this video proves it 😭. I might just up my space again because 7k isn't enough space
You can sell unwanted materials from the item box for zenni. I have sold the sharp fangs and some wings from basic monsters for 5 zenni each. It isn't much but it is possible.
I agree that Niantic needs to chill and increase rewards/ drop rates, and you make very valid arguments. To play devils advocate though, I didn’t download this type of game to be maxed out in one month. The goal is to provide content and updates that continue to make the game entertaining for years.
and there lies the problem... with such gameplay that isnt rewarding and feels way too grindy, how do you get entertainment out of it? if you compare it to any main series game, there are so many other ways to get around some of the grind and earn the stuff you need. need a tail, cut it and you probably get it. in now... totally random drop, doesnt matter if you break the head, cut the tail, it just gives you one more drop. in my honest opinion, niantic took the wrong franchise/game to mobilize it... the playerbase is kinda spoiled with the real games and how devs changed stuff, refined it and listened to their playerbase. and when you see niantic and the way they doing things, there is no way they are changing things. i played pokemon go for over 7 years and let me tell you, its rare we players get a win there
Yep. I hope Niantic pays attention to feedback this time. I honestly don’t even mind the rng drops from breaking parts but something needs to happen to drop rates for the game to succeed.
Don't forget that future weapons and armours will powercreep the old ones. Even if you got to Grade 10 in two months, it'd be no problem because that gear will be outclassed anyways. And if they weren't outclassed, then you'd have a problem of having no new content and the grind would feel meaningless.
Y’all niantic defenders are so weird. Do you play regular monster hunter games and say “man if only it took me longer to upgrade this weapon I’d keep playing this game,” or do you say “wow I’m having so much fun with this game I’m thinking of maxing out an entire separate build for a different weapon set?” Seriously, if the game was as fun as mainline monster hunters nobody would complain about the grind. The grind is built in. The problem is niantic is not a company of game devs, they’re a company of predators with geolocation tech that won the lottery with Pokémon go.
@@maninblack3410exactly. If it took so long to make a set in the main games as it did like in mhnow then I probably would've stopped playing the series because I love making a bunch of weapons for all the weapon types. Heck I even spent 600 hours in mh4u judt staying in high rank and making a page and a half full of weapons. In G rank imma be doubling or tripling some of my weapons to hone them for life. Attack and defence. I can't even get anywhere close to doing that in mhnow. The grind in mhnow is just not fun.
Thats ridiculous, those numbers are insane. Thanks a lot for showing us, really appreciate it. Also the Hunter Ranks are not needed at all. Or there is no benefit to level up. Until lvl 30 (I think, not sure anymore) you get some potions/paintballs but after that not anymore. And if you are not living in a big populated city (like Tokyo or similar) you won't find any other hunters nerby to hunt with. So the friendlist is also almost not needed. The hunts are fun but aside from that it seems exhausting to try and hunt a lot. In some cases I start the game. find a big Monster (7-8*) and after one or some missed dodges i got like one shotted and close the game immediately to not waste a potion there because I am not going to hunt a lot and recharge my health for later or so. (2-3 min playtime) unfortunately I kind of simp hard for this game and want it to be a lot of fun. But in this hate-love relationship the hate part is really big. I almost reached HR 100 after that I will pause and see if Niantic will make some updates to the droprates / Zenny or just tune in when the Zinogre update arrives in December. Thanks for reading my rant if you get so far xD And happy hunting fellow Hunters :)
I am in the process of upgrading all of my elemental weapons from grade 6 to 7.5 right now. I've cracked into 7 with most of them, but seeing this makes my heart sink tier 8+. I'm loving the game and loving walking around with my daughter and wife as we beat up monsters together but I don't see how we can keep pushing through with these requirements. At some point the wall is going to be just too high. Honestly, if they made the amount of Zenny you got worth it, I'd be more willing to buy it. Why is about $20 worth of gems only giving 10K zenny? That's just 3 days of daily quests. If they add a 0, I would consider it. But that's freaking pathetic.
If the three of you are hunting together, you're apparently in the sweet spot for monster HP. I've found G8 (4th play through of the story) a good spot to take your time and get the zenny you need from casually hunting 6 and 7 star monsters. Then keeping an eye out for the easier 8 star monsters (Jagras, Kulu, Puki, Barroth, Girros and to some extent Tobi) with the appropriate elemental weapons. IF you are thinking of buying gems: use them to double the wyvern shards. Additionally, if you can push through G8 story to G9 (not there yet myself), the lowest level monsters you'll likely find are 6 star which is the sweet spot for efficient zenny farming. The other thought I had is that only one of the three of you needs to grind up to G9 as you would act as the host for the other two. Anyways, glad to hear you all have something to play along together
I think the issue is that MH player base is mainly solo players. I play with 4 man and have a lot of friend's to play with. Which really feels like MHN is the most social version compared to all other series of MH
I think that's not the correct approach, in that stage of the game the developers don't want you to get max weapons and armour. I think 10* will be the maximum for the years to come and marketing wise they couldn't promote a new and faster feature in the future if everyone allready has everything maxed out. They need to have these high limits, if they not wanna rebalance the game all the time with higher weapon grades. It's been the same with pokemon go and level 50, everyone complained at the beginning but at least you'll still have a goal to work towards, even after playing for several months. Without these goals everyone would just stop playing, after they got their weapons and armour maxed out.
This upsets me but also doesn't surprise me at all. Mobile games have always been this money spending target. Not saying it makes it okay, but players are the ones enabling this type of mobile game market.
is not that bad, I mean this MH Series is a marathon game (not a sprint one that u can get R9 weap/armor just 4-5 hunts) remember the G9 G10 is something u earned, not something u just got
For the last 2 weeks I’ve been grinding a lot. Average around 15-17k Zenny each day (including the 3k from quest). I max out 5 weapons to level 7, and tons of armours to lvl 6 to maximum each each different weapons stats. I just started level 8 monsters 2 days ago. Also I’ve killed 5233 large monster already. I average each kill to be 70zenny each only and it turns out to be 366,310 not including the side quest bonuses. So pretty much if I didn’t upgrade ANYTHING but my weapon, I would’ve gotten one max out weapon lmao. I’m using SS for water and thunder. Lightbow for fire and ice. And the last is obviously a normal bow. But in all honesty, maxing out just one weapon will slow down your game progress so don’t do that people. Focus on water,thunder, fire, ice, diablo bow. Those my five max weapons
The thing is you dont need to be at Grade 10 so fast. I'm just enjoying the Gameplay right now casually playing the game. Its a Slow Progress, but the Game is meant to be played for years.
Im rc84 with 2358 monsters killed.. You are telling me that i have to kill 3000 monsters 8+ to upgrade just ONE WEAPON.... Jaja funny In my experience drop ratios are okey because the items you need to upgrade weapons are balanced in rarity with drops. The problem is when you need an specific material like rarity 4, 5 or 6 and you dont get, when that happen blocks you to upgrade a weapon... but when you get that material you have the mats to upgrade the weapon a lot of levels, so i think monster hunter now must have: ⚠ 🔽 🔽 ⚠ - 2/3 more material slot per hunt. 🐘 - 2 more daily quests and improve: 📑 · Q1 1000 zenis - 3 slots for rarity 2 resources - 2 per slot 🍀🐞🏔 · Q2 1000 zenis - 2 refined armor + 4 rarity 3 resource (1 slot) 🍀🐞🏔 · Q3 1000 zenis - 2 refined weapon + 2 rarity 3 monster material (MM) - 1 rarity 4 MM 🐘🦏🦒 · Q4 500 zenis - 2 slots for rarity 3 resource - 2/3 per slot 🍀🐞🏔 · Q5 500 zenis - 1 monster and 1/2 MM of that monster to choose from (rarity to choose from too) - (This unlock the block i mentioned before) 🐘🦏🦒 - Ability to choose the minimum number of stars at which monsters appear, at least the ability to reduce them. ⭐⭐⭐ · Example: You cannot hunt an 8-star legiana, in this case you will be able reduce the stars of that legiana to 7. - From the 6th star onwards, the number of zenis per monster is greater (Like he talks in video) 💰 I think this changes makes the game not frustrating and solve the problems this game have. I hope TD read this and give their opinion about. Big hug to community, im sure this game will change too great game ♥💙💚💜
I've been playing for 5 months now, logging in a couple of times a day, while walking the dog. I spent 0 cash on the game, just enjoying it. I now have multiple grade 7 weapons and armor pieces and also have 600k zenny left. I think the game is fine as it is and it is not at all hard to raise the resources. It's the grinding for specific monster parts that thematically is the challenge. The video maker is hugely missing the mark IMO
Same for me. I have not spend a single penny in this game and i have G9 weapons, can kill everything pretty easy and don't see any reason to use money. In the contrary, using money would going to make the game faster and by the end i will not have any reason to play it Only people with fomo problems are the ones that use a lot of money.
i just feel like G10 weapons are something for the future, but they somehow already added it, even though the game has so little content to justify it. Also, they really need to up their game if they want to make it fresh and keep the players in. RN it has potential, but shitty events with monster subspecies won't be enough to keep the players, and the monetization system sucks. They're not fixing any problems of the game, and new ones keep appearing somehow.
Damn, that amount of money for one weapon?. You can just buy a new pc and then buy Monster Hunter World with Iceborne DLC or Monster Hunter Rise with Sunbreak DLC.
Or you can... Well play the game and not buy your weapon or armor pieces. This video feels dumb honestly. "If you buy it costs a lot of money" Well no shit Sherlock. The game is free, they have to make the money somewhere. "But the grind is intense" It's a mobile game, you're not supposed to finish it in a month, it's supposed to keep its player base for months and it does this by absurd grind and regular event/updates. It's a marathon, not a sprint and a lot of players don't seem to get that
@@erwannlacroix2150 it only take 2 month to max lvl of one character in gacha game so I can enjoy the *early* content. Plus MH have ton of monster to be releases if they want to keep it going. Having full complete set is what drive MH player to keep playing.
@@akilakill4144 I've pretty much maxxed Furina in Genshin in less than a week, which means lvl, skill and relics. Aside from that, I can go farm better relics and improve her weapon and it certainly won't take two months. Even in Fate/GO which was brutal, I could do the same with the gathered stocks and even then it wouldn't take a month to max a character aside from skills. Also a set is maxxed out in Now at r6 as you have already unlocked all the skills, it's definitely doable for pretty much everyone, the brutal grind comes later and at this point, it's basically get more attack/def to hunt the same monsters with more hp/atk so basically pointless if you don't want the challenge or completion
@@erwannlacroix2150 yourself admit it that other gacha game allow you to maxed it. Grade 6 can't do crap against 8 or more... You just contradict yourself bruh.. :V For now let's see if Tiantic dumb enough to not listen. If they still refuse, they would seriously lose it all in long run for real as main franchise release new game within years or soo. Which everyone waiting for.
i have 6 weapons on 5-6lvl and 2 sets of armor, and im farming on lvl 6 monsters and below and i have 60.000 zenny, but im constantly missing monster pars, farming 2, 3, 4 tier monster parts is nightmare, i must constantly delete houndreds of tier 1 monster parts coz box limited space and im getting only few 2-3 tier parts... this is kinda uppseting, i hope they will balance it. also you shoud be able to sell parts or upgrade them (even 50 to 1 would be something)
This! Everyone who's working on a G6 weapon has been able to easily spot the fact that the item drops and Zenny feels insufficient. (Putting it lightly.) But this! Way to spell it out for us and assign monetary and time sink values to the actual grind. We can grind this game every day for over a year and still not complete 1 build? And here I am planning a variety of builds for shits and giggles.😅
Realised this game was a waste of time by the time the Halloween update came out. It was addictive to play on my long commute to work (when it actually let you play) and I even spent a bit of money every so often, such a shame.
I’m becoming more convinced to believe that people who play this game are either too innocent and ill-informed to know about the abusive monetization in mobile games or are simply too lazy to invest in a proper gaming console/PC. With 700-800$ you can easily buy a Nintendo Switch, PlayStation or XBox plus several games or a decent gaming laptop.
I have a grade 10 level 3/5 weapon and it is just a grind. But any true monster hunter fan will understand that's what the game series is about grinding the monsters to get the parts you need. I love this game and personally love the upates they keep putting out to make it better. Those complaining clearly have zero experience with the series and should just go back to playing Pokemon go 😂
You’re not intended to get rarity 10 right away, the game is designed for being a long term experience, do your dailies, maybe hunt a couple extra things or farm parts from an event. For what it is I’m enjoying the game, nice little excuse to get outside.
Bruh...kids wanna be op from the start with g10 weapon and armor lol i didnt need to spend any money to buy zenny and i Still.have g9 weapon and having fun😂
I only hunt the monsters for fun. Already gave up on the grind. The item is full of the mats and no bones insects and stuff. Since I don't go out of my way to get to certain biom, doing the quest entirely depends on luck. It took about 2 weeks to meet 2 Diablos
I’m still pissed capcom removed Monster Hunter Freedom Unite off the app stores! Like the full blown game! Ofc i’ll never get my $15 back now. I tried playing this game for like an hour and was so incredibly bored I just deleted it. I could tell it was a cash grab. I’m not sure what I expected, but this app sucked.
Addiction is expensive. Don't try to max out everything, especially on mobile games. You have to accept that 99% of mobile games are grindy, and there're literally no end games on mobile games. Once you max out on everything, they will drop an expansion with new overpowered monsters and you'll have to grind all over again. Don't fall for that crap. Play casually, go for a walk and take down few monster along your way and close the game when you run out of potions. That's how I enjoy the game so far at 6 stars. And I have been fighting 6 stars monsters for weeks.
I've been at rarity 8 weapons for a while and I have the same sentiment. I see no point in trying to get to G10L5 as fast as possible because I have fun hunting things and trying out different armor and weapon combos
Man the game is only been out for a year and people are so focused on maxing already, you don’t need to spend money to get to G10 why is everyone in a race to beat the game it’s all the events, dailies and other quests you can esilly make the 451k Zenny all I’m seeing is impatience. Now that games have options to boost with real money people forget that games require grinding and now a week grind or month grinds feel impossible to you like man just stop gaming then
Theres basically no difference between g6 to g10 monster anyway, just dont go NG+ and you wont need g10 weapon 😂. Think of it as late game padding content like anomaly or guiding lands. It is predatory but its not like the gameplay is any different with higher grade equipment. To others who skipped, try it, the game is actually really fun 😅
You are right. TDS is exaggerating. It's true that the requirements to get lv10 weapons are too high, but the game is made for a normal player to never reach the "end". If they had made it easy everyone would be with maxed out lv10 gear and there would be no content anymore. The game is a lot of fun up to lv 6 monsters
I downloaded it when it released, and I had a ton of fun with it! That enthusiasm has diminished massively, and I haven't touched it in probably 2 weeks. The weather getting colder where I live isn't doing the game any favors mind you, but yeah the grind is just too much. And I'm only at 5/6 star hunts. I can't be bothered to fight a dozen of one monster and get exactly zero of the mats I need. Maybe if they up the drop rate I'll come back, but yeah, it's just...ugh.
I'm glad I'm not just crazy. I hit such a wall of progression playing this game after a few weeks, and while I wasn't actively going on walks and searching out monsters, playing VERY casually here and there, the fact I was so stuck made me drop it HARD. For a franchise literally built around the idea of progression, if I don't feel like I'm able to progress ANYTHING about my builds, gear, or even get strong enough to unlock all the monsters, then there is something deeply flawed with the games design, even if it was designed around getting you to spend money. Why would I spend even $50 on a game, to not make any progress, in the most watered down version of the game-play the franchise has had to date, when I could use that same money (or in my case, none, since I own both World and Rise already) and play a 10000x more in depth, and satisfying version? And the worst part is I was having a great time with the game for the first couple weeks. The idea and reality of playing MH on the go is super fun, but at the point that the grind becomes near impossible, especially with the insane RNG, the game stopped feeling like Monster Hunter.
Niantic: "So, tell us about this 'Monster Hunter" franchise."
Capcom: Well, it can be a bit grindy, but-"
Niantic: "Say no more!"
On god 😂
The only fun part about the game are the hunts and being a good excuse to go out for a walk and touch grass. Niantics greed spoils everything else.
Its a cap so people dont grind to the max yet, the game is for casuals, not speedrunnners that want max everything 1 month in
@@Rodoadrenalina Except demonstrably very few people stick around and play a single game for months or years (let alone mobile games like this, CoC is an anomaly). Casuals by definition rarely stick to a game for long, and if they do it's in short blasts that are never enough to get them to "endgame"...so if this is "for casuals", then it's pretty contradictory. Or, you know, the more obvious answer that anyone with a brain could figure out: it encourages you to spend cash. Almost as if that were the entire goal.
@@Rodoadrenalina bruh in the current state speed runner whales couldn’t max everything in 1 decade let alone 1 month 😂
@@Rodoadrenalina how does that even make sense? If this was for casuals the drop rates would be so high. Casuals don’t play games where they have to grind like this. It’s a game for whales that will play it because they’re addicted to the grind. Speed running has nothing to do with it.
@@Rodoadrenalina So how much time / miles to walk that so called "normal people" supposed to spend for winning all the 8 star monsters ?
A year? I think they will quit this game first.
The real problem with Now is the material drops. In normal Monster Hunter we've all spent hours and days grinding for that one gem with a 2% drop rate, and that can be as fun as it frustrating. But in Now, you can't even fight monsters as freely and repeatedly as you want. If there's no needed monster within my area, or the mat doesn't drop off the one I find, then that's all I can do that entire day.
There is a 13% drop rate on gold rewards and 8% on silver for Gems and Mantles when running the hunts as Investigations. So a lot of em end up being closer to 30% chance per hunt.
Its like farming Zorah Magdaros Gems, but you don't know that event quests are a thing.
It sickens me that there is a vocal minority that accepts Niantic’s decisions and encourages the expensive packages in the shop.
Theres also the potion problem that can cut your walk short or living in an area where there aren't any walkable large nodes within an hour.
Take a walk
The main problem i have so far (most of my stuff around lvl5) is that it feels like grade 2mats are rarer then grade 3 mats and you need far more of them
Same with with ratalos material
thats my main complaint and stop gap for me.
like every weapon i want to upgrade is stuck cause i need Monster Bone M, they feel like they never fucking drop.
@@sdn3sukamaju254 I swear the Rathlos Tails "Rarity 2" drop rate is lower than other rarity 2 tails of other monsters...
12 fucking Diablos tailcases for a hammer. 12. I've hunted about 90 of those fuckers.
its depressing to see kill a 6 stars monster and drop only white stuffs..... sigh
"Let us craft lures"
Niantic: "We have heard the player base and you can now buy lures in the shop for 1 dollar each, we thank TDS for the big help"
$1 is too cheap for this greedy monsters. They’d probably charge it for 5 bucks a piece.
"My favourite genre is gacha, but i hate microtransactions"
If people don't like it, don't play these crappy games lol
@@SlimeBlueMScriticism is important, even if you don’t like a game
I think I can speak for many people here:
We all saw this coming.
Fuck you feeling bad for Capcom for, they're the ones who greenlit this project to begin with. Plus I would not be surprised if this game starts making them *dirty* as fuck money because people can and will be tempted by these insane packs. Hell, right now there's that black diablos chest that's a "one time limited offer" of fucking $15. Absolutely disgusting how much they're charging with how little you get in it.
i have a very strong feeling that this game is the one and only game capcom will be doing with niantic
Why feel bad for Capcom? They knew how much money this game would make them, that's why they had it made.
@@Tpachal Because Capcom cares. They try(and in my opinion succeed) to make a fun and hopefully longlasting experience.
I think I only know ONE other Developer team that asks about feedback and suggestions from *US*. The players.
From a financial standpoint wouldn't that also be more effective?
Try to make the game more enjoyable for the majority of players.
We keep playing their games. They get money.
win-win
Capcom has definitely made questionable, sometimes maybe even dumb decisions. But in the end they made the best of it. Look how mh rise sunbreak turned out. It's the second most sold game from Capcom.
Compare this to Niantic. Monster hunter now has their Name written all over it.
This is how I feel about this. Maybe I don't see the whole picture here. I don't pretend to.
@@Masterofhammerswelp capcom actually have nothing to lost,and they would get some profits from the game
One of my biggest issues how many monster I can hunt while at 5 stars and only get T1 mats as a reward 90% of the time.
I love me G. Jagras Claw or Tobi's Pelt. IF THEY DROPPED ANY
Yeah like imagine killing a G rank monster and only getting base mats, and on top of that you can't redo the mission. This game sucks
My biggest issue is the $700 micro transactions
My main issue with the game is that I have to hunt so much to gain so little, and I am forced into 1 armor equipment because I simply can't afford getting the armor AND weapons. The only armor pieces I have are from weapons I never use, so they don't take away from each other - but this also means that I can't get a fire weapon AND fire boosting equipment right now.
It's not a big loss, there's only like two monsters weak to fire anyways
Ayo Dex?
They would've stuck out in app storefronts and gained reputation from mobile gamers if they just released a mainline, singleplayer, five to seven dollar game with co-op severs.
Yo!!! Didn’t expect to see you here :DD
I dont regret uninstalling this game.
I dont regret not even installing it.
@@freddoesvox9033 Youre better off friend.
@@andresbrambila9248agree
samee, it’s too grindy
It's a mobile game. This kind of time and money sink was to be expected.
You could build a whole PC and play World Iceborne in 4k for less than the cost of 1 G10 weapon. That’s crazy.
4k display is like $150 and new PCs are like $600 🤨
That's prebuilt, wouldn't building your own be more expensive?
@@zacziggarot building your own is always cheaper unless you’re just getting some mass produced PC that businesses buy to stack their office spaces which could barely run a platformer
Or pay half of your rent for a month
@@nyalan8385 and yet people were still complaining that they couldn't play starfield 🤔 yeah, something tells me that it's not worth the headache of tracking down all the individual parts to make my own. 4K hurts my eyes anyways
@@zacziggarotits absolutely worth it. Its literally half as expensive to build your own and its fairly easy. The first time js always the hardest and will probably take you several hours and alot UA-cam videos. Ive made 4 PCs so far and now it takes me about a hour to make them with no hassle. A hour of work and I saved over 1k USD on what my current PC would have cost minus parts? Yeah I think Ill stick to making my own.
For anyone curious, this video's a bit outdated with it's information now.
Yes, Zenny is still buyable with money, but being able to sell materials in your item box for Zenny, combined with the Zenny Reward Boost at HR100 for Daily Quests, combined with the Constant Events that give you free shit for doing the most basic of tasks !
The Zenny Economy has since Sky Rocketed and it's ridiculously easy to earn Free Zenny even if you're not even trying to.
Material Drops are still a bit of a struggle, but with Hunt-A-Thons now havin a Worldwide Group Hunt Feature, combined with Group Hunts granting Bonus Rewards simply for hunting with another Player, it's not quite as painful as it used to be.
I wasn’t even hyped for this game and had no plans to install it, this video just HEAVILY reinforced my decision.
Nah bro, try it, the game is very fun until star lv6, after that it transforms into a farming boring fest
@@joa6336 im gonna pass. I dont consider it a Monster Hunter game.
@joa6336 Yes, because that's worth doing 😂
the combat isn’t too bad for a mobile game I was kindof impressed.
It’s kindof ridiculous to compare it to the mainline games. I enjoy this game when I don’t really focus on it too hard and play it casually just to enjoy the combat every now and then when I’m out and also to slowly work towards upgrades. That’s really all there is to it. I think obsessing over this game is a terrible idea
@@freddoesvox9033try it
Was out before the Halloween event after hitting 7* I realised I was wasting my time after that.
Still very good video on that topic! Thanks for showing how insane it is :D
Another problem is for some monster such as Rathalo, it only appears in the forest, which makes it much rare than others. And you need its material for your weapon, mail and greaves, some even need head or coil. Different rareility monster request same amount of materials for update is unfair.
Also the damage and the attack opportunity difference between range and melee are also crazy. I could kill 7 stars Legiana with 5.4 Rathalo bow, even I got hit twice and died once, but I still have about 50% of chance couldn't kill a 6 stars Legiana with 6.5 Anjanath SnS due to run out of time. THIS ASSHOLE COULD STARTS FLYING WHEN ABOUT 60S LEFT BUT NEVER LAND, only about half of the SnS attack are on its head, the rest are either miss or on its foot. Once he dash melee weapon have to roll about 2-3 times, while range weapon just keeps attacking on weakness. FUCKING LEGIANA!
That's a fair point about monsters found in only one terrain. It reduces its spawn rate at best to ⅓ compared to the earlier monsters found in all terrains. I found myself going through the same experience with the flying monsters too. It's the bane of SNS that has been in most MH games. The wirebug system in Rise really helped out for that but alas, MHN is carted from MHW engine. I've been tempted to build a fire, ice and dragon bow set (the later requiring pink rath mats) to hunt the flying types specifically. At which point I may as well main in Bow! 🙄 Not sure how players use it so we'll when walking around in the rain.
I've had a bunch of hunts where the monster spends the last 40 seconds just running from me 😑 then my signal is spotty so my hunter starts moving like he's in molasses. If the monster runs there's literally nothing I can do about it. It faces away from me and does a charge attack, so I chase, then when I finally catch up it does ANOTHER charge attack aimed away from me. These arenas aren't exactly the kind of place you can chase a monster in
@@zacziggarot I have been stuck by 7stars diablo urgent quests for 2 weeks. There is nothing I could do with SnS. Eventhough it say its weak to paralysis, but 7.5 Girros SnS with lv3 paralysis attack couldn't even paralyze it before first time digging, also I couldn't get the 2nd paralyze. I don't know how could Niantic says this bitch is weak to paralysis. The only solution I could come up with is Legiana Bow, lv5.5 ice bow performance is close to lv7.5 Sns, such a joke.
Another issue I noticed was that it costs $700 for a weapon
My issue with this game is it never feels like you are doing enough damage to monsters even with their effective weapon.
when you start building actual elemental sets, like have your fire weapon with some armor that gives fire boost, save that as your set, do the same with other sets/elements, and you should start dishing out more dmg. elements are rly strong in this game, even on slow weapons like great swords, which isnt the case in the main series game.
but i am at a point where i was able to upgrade my great jagras greatsword so much higher than everything else , i think almost rarity 8, while everything else still sits at rarity 5, that im better off always just using that.
The game basically only wants you to play bow with elemental sets. Forget the other weapons if you want to play comfortably.
@@Met377 it’s funny because it’s true, I literally only use 3 bow sets, poison, ice and water
@@Met377idk, my swords and shields seem pretty effective with their elements
Use bow I just started playing this game some good soul random I met on the street helped me kill 7 black diablos now I have grade 2 5 star black diablos bow now I can kill any monster up to 6* with ease
Id love to see this sent to both Capcom and Niantic. Even if niantic's rep isnt all that good when it comes to listening to players, Capcoms IS and as long as the feedback is given respectfully, Im sure capcom will put pressure on niantic to make changes
niantic wont care they want people to spend this much time so they will see the value in paying that huge price. the easier they make it to get stuff the less chance people will use there credit card which is all they want.
Honestly given how poorly developed every single game they’ve made is, I believe that capcom and Nintendo essentially signed away the rights to make any decision in terms of gameplay. They probably can say “you can’t use the brand do to that,” but if they could say “no this is not fun, you need to change this” then nintendo would’ve done so a *long* time ago
Yeah bullshit. Capcom should have known what Niantic would do especially with how they managed PoGo.
Capcom saw the greens and decided to sign it off. Capcom is as responsible as Niantic for the state of the game.
Don't worry, they already know. They saw Pokemon Go and wanted a piece of that pie, why else would they choose to partner with Niantic?
@@maninblack3410more so gamefreak than Nintendo when it comes to PoGo
Zenny isn't an issue, you'll have well over 500,000 by the time you get 90 gems 😂
Since I've upgraded my bow and hammer to 7-5 I've only gotten 3 gems and have earned over 90k zenny.
With a little quick math I'll have 2.7million zenny before I have the mats to upgrade a weapon to full anyway
I'd be fine with them keeping the zenny economy the same. It's the abhorrent drop %'s that need to change 😂
@@ZEFFYRooo When and if they upped the drop rates, you'll soon learn that zenny is the worst issue. While you have a heap of materials sitting in your inventory waiting to be crafted into a weapon / upgrade and no Zenny to do it.
@@Aphesiathe same formula they used for pokemon go
And it'll only take you 15 years!
@@Aphesiahard disagree, getting a heap of materials is far less likely. By the time I finally get enough M bones I can only level the weapon five times before I need MORE M bones. It takes me a week of playing every day to collect about 20 M bones because you get them from the resource nodes, by the time I get the next pile of M bones I'll easily have enough Zenni to upgrade to the next M bone hurdle which will take ANOTHER week or two
this is why i dont do games on phone they tend to always go crazy greed like this and this is not the worst we have seen
True,people who have played pokemon go already know what niantic greed can do.
My main problem in this game is you cannot take down hard monsters when underpowered. Not like in the main game where even if you dont have any equipment, you can still take down difficult monsters as long as you have the skills to do it. That timer is the hardest monster to overcome in this game.
Im glad the skill unlocks max out at tier 8, as realistically i dont think I'll ever go above that
They made the grind much better now with the new update 👌 and i believe it will continue to improve as the game grows💪
To some degree I feel like it makes a difference how quickly you want to run out of things to do in the game. I'll be curious to see what "next season" is like in MHN but, for now, I'm okay with appreciating long term goals and rewards.
Niantic is shady af. They secretly increased the wyvern gem shards needed to upgrade a weapon(it used to be 2 shards to upgrade from 7-5 to 8-1), god knows how many things they have secretly changed! Not to mention the secret tweaking of monster difficulty, most notably the Great Jagras, they made it so that its stomach is harder to break in the recent update, throwing off a lot of veteran players.
Breaking parts got nerfed across. Was damn bullshit. They literally do not want you to break more than 1 part per fight.
Idk if this is out dated. I started 3 weeks ago and I have a gunlance at grade 8 and I have like 250k zenny left to spare. Zenny’s seem almost worthless at the abundance I get them at.
Spot on! They really need to change a lot of things in the game if they wanna run this game for a long time instead of an instant cash grab
of course it's a cash grab based on the need for another monster hunter game. They will support it for at least 1 year after the next MH game i out and then stop it probably
This game is simply raking in cash from the riches in the fan base, for future development. The real fans know how pointless of a grind is, in MHN, when you have the fun mainline games like MH4U and MHW.
Just to save everyone a google, converting Euros to USD would mean that in Europe you'd be paying about $880.00.
Of course daily quests vomit mountains of zenny anyways though.
Personally have yet to spend a dime on Zenny and find those calculations to be...no offense, but a little useless. The biggest issue I've had, having made it to 7 star thus far, is the item box expansion and monster rewards. I've all but ignored the zenny cost completely thus far and only spent money on paintballs other than that. Quests, especially events, give plenty of money.
The exponential curve for the numbers to upgrade gear definitely needs to be lessened noticeably. Though honestly, forgetting EVERYTHING, I want one change. Higher drop rates.
I'm not going to hunt down a 7 star after hours of only finding 6 and below star monsters only to get all rare 1 hide. Drop rates need improving. The screen for drop rates can extend a lot, just make it like actual hunts where you get proper lines of materials, and just make the percentage for each drop rarity chance go by star level.
Zenny is irrelevant otherwise and drops are definitely the biggest problem, especially for solo play. The monsters drop absolute gutter trash and I haven't even seen more than 4 plates getting all the way to 7 star. I have never seen a single gem as well (Fanged Wyvern Gems and plates for a lot of monsters.)
Im stuck at grade 7 rn, and the lack up money became a huge problem. I've started making new weapon types just to keep myself invested lol
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But yeah, this was to be expected and it is disappointing that capcom gave their approval in the first place.
Its a mobile game like any other out there, filled with dark patterns and rife with monetization.
I know it sounds a bit melodramatic, but it really is a stain on an otherwise flawless IP. Gladly enough, it looks like it is not popular at all among the MH-Fanbase.
The drop rates are so bad and it's so annoying that when you cut or break monster part they will not drop the part
I think I said it right to my friends who were playing it since launch, with every update they have managed to make it worse and worse, stopped playing around lvl 51 or so
Well, looking at it now, after many events, and getting Doouble WGS plenty of times (events where the first 2 slots ares doubled) i really didnt spent alot of money yet , and im still able to beat ALL 8 Stars easily. Currently at Class 9 lv 4/5 clapping all 8s and some 9s. Having fun. >Dont need to spent money, just geting there slowly but surely :) many events getting u a looot of gold. Event pass even gives u some WGS. Even without paying, u can get there. Im focusing on a Off. Guard 5 Pukei Lance for ex. ruiling over every 8star.
The only solution I see to the zenny problem is raising the daily rewards each time you finish the story.
this solution loses them money so they wont. dont forget this is not a game its an income generator.
@@Deathwish026I don't see how that's the case when I haven't spent any money on it and don't even feel inclined to spend money on it 🤔
Like who TF cares about upgrading to max level unless you're already up close to max level? I don't know if I'm ever going to get my hammer to max level I just need a COUPLE more levels to take out monsters more comfortably.
I get enough Zenny and I get enough mats from hunts. I just need bones from desert fossil zones, you can't get those with gems.
Guess I just don't understand how you think that the game just prints money when the only thing that I'm struggling to get can't be mitigated with money 😂
@@zacziggarot that's you, not the whole playerbase. why do people keep using "i i i i" it's so goddamn annoying. stop acting like you're the only player in the whole game. clearly people are still buying the macrotransactions that's why niantic ain't backing down and reducing the macrotransactions.
@@k3stea451 but why though? The store doesn't even have ANYTHING worth getting. What are people ACTUALLY buying? My best guess is the gems to double loot rewards 🤔
@@k3stea451 Can't really say "clearly people are buying stuff" have you seen the earnings report already? All these other people are talking about how they dropped the game, that doesn't bode well at all for the store. Do you KNOW the game is making money? An online store doesn't automatically make it to where they're going to make money, look at fallout 76 or that avengers game square enix shat out. Games can still fail, especially when there's diddly crap to actually spend money on that's worth it. Whole game could be headed for the scrap heap. Also where are the MACRO transactions?
I walked 15000 steps a day to trace and hunt monsters not to mentioned down time after owned by monsters and their cheap tricks of roaring constantly or fps lag that knocked me out...After 3 weeks of hunts, I am only HR44. It's so challenging to find players around that can help hunting and sometimes I had to drag monters home or somewhere crowded to find near by players lol....
Would love to se more improvement in monster drop rates
No idea why anyone wouldn't just make a one-time purchase and just have a full monster Hunter game whenever they want.
Glad to see the numbers on these sorts of things. I dropped MHN once I realized it didn't respect my time and reinstalled MHWI to scratch the itch. SOOOO much better.
What's MHWI? Is it monster hunter iceborne?
@@muffinstan Yup!
@@samuraizerro gotcha
World is such an AMAZING game. I really wished we didnt had Rise and they just focused on constantly updating MHWI.
@@Saicofake🤮. Doing that is how the series will stagnate. In fact if they did that then we most likely wouldn't even have mhworld cause they'd just be updating an older mh game.
My old phone broke and because I had to rush to get a new one, I got the cheapest phone they had to offer. Turns out it couldn't run MHN. I was upset at first but now not so much.
I don't mind the grind. This game is not meant to be beaten, I use it as a way to go outside so the longer it takes the more days I'll take walks.
This is the way to fully enjoy the game I think
I'm not after min maxed gear, but even as a casual player I have to admit that literally just grade 4 absolutely killed all momentum of progress
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This game is ok but I honestly think that they used an AI to design the upgrade requirements. Like "here's a formula go out numbers in our game!"
700$ in brazil is almost a 3 months salary at minimum wage :)
Let's not forget the item space 😭 I'm a solo player fighting 7⭐ but I have no luck with the stuff I need to keep leveling up. I had to buy up to 7k space because I knew that deleting items was gonna hurt me In the future and this video proves it 😭. I might just up my space again because 7k isn't enough space
Good points being made with supporting info presented in a great way!
The real problem is only getting 5 potions A DAY
You can sell unwanted materials from the item box for zenni. I have sold the sharp fangs and some wings from basic monsters for 5 zenni each. It isn't much but it is possible.
I'd rather buy 14 copies of World for my friends.
I was debating downloading this. Thanks for saving me the time. Ill make more progress waiting for wilds.
So you're telling me a f2p mobile game is a scam?!
No way!!
By the time you grind till G10 materials you should already have enough zenny, provided you are not cheating.
I agree that Niantic needs to chill and increase rewards/ drop rates, and you make very valid arguments. To play devils advocate though, I didn’t download this type of game to be maxed out in one month. The goal is to provide content and updates that continue to make the game entertaining for years.
and there lies the problem... with such gameplay that isnt rewarding and feels way too grindy, how do you get entertainment out of it?
if you compare it to any main series game, there are so many other ways to get around some of the grind and earn the stuff you need. need a tail, cut it and you probably get it. in now... totally random drop, doesnt matter if you break the head, cut the tail, it just gives you one more drop.
in my honest opinion, niantic took the wrong franchise/game to mobilize it... the playerbase is kinda spoiled with the real games and how devs changed stuff, refined it and listened to their playerbase. and when you see niantic and the way they doing things, there is no way they are changing things. i played pokemon go for over 7 years and let me tell you, its rare we players get a win there
Yep. I hope Niantic pays attention to feedback this time. I honestly don’t even mind the rng drops from breaking parts but something needs to happen to drop rates for the game to succeed.
Don't forget that future weapons and armours will powercreep the old ones. Even if you got to Grade 10 in two months, it'd be no problem because that gear will be outclassed anyways. And if they weren't outclassed, then you'd have a problem of having no new content and the grind would feel meaningless.
Y’all niantic defenders are so weird. Do you play regular monster hunter games and say “man if only it took me longer to upgrade this weapon I’d keep playing this game,” or do you say “wow I’m having so much fun with this game I’m thinking of maxing out an entire separate build for a different weapon set?”
Seriously, if the game was as fun as mainline monster hunters nobody would complain about the grind. The grind is built in. The problem is niantic is not a company of game devs, they’re a company of predators with geolocation tech that won the lottery with Pokémon go.
@@maninblack3410exactly. If it took so long to make a set in the main games as it did like in mhnow then I probably would've stopped playing the series because I love making a bunch of weapons for all the weapon types.
Heck I even spent 600 hours in mh4u judt staying in high rank and making a page and a half full of weapons.
In G rank imma be doubling or tripling some of my weapons to hone them for life. Attack and defence.
I can't even get anywhere close to doing that in mhnow. The grind in mhnow is just not fun.
Thats ridiculous, those numbers are insane. Thanks a lot for showing us, really appreciate it.
Also the Hunter Ranks are not needed at all. Or there is no benefit to level up. Until lvl 30 (I think, not sure anymore) you get some potions/paintballs but after that not anymore.
And if you are not living in a big populated city (like Tokyo or similar) you won't find any other hunters nerby to hunt with. So the friendlist is also almost not needed.
The hunts are fun but aside from that it seems exhausting to try and hunt a lot.
In some cases I start the game. find a big Monster (7-8*) and after one or some missed dodges i got like one shotted and close the game immediately to not waste a potion there because I am not going to hunt a lot and recharge my health for later or so. (2-3 min playtime)
unfortunately I kind of simp hard for this game and want it to be a lot of fun. But in this hate-love relationship the hate part is really big.
I almost reached HR 100 after that I will pause and see if Niantic will make some updates to the droprates / Zenny or just tune in when the Zinogre update arrives in December.
Thanks for reading my rant if you get so far xD
And happy hunting fellow Hunters :)
I am in the process of upgrading all of my elemental weapons from grade 6 to 7.5 right now. I've cracked into 7 with most of them, but seeing this makes my heart sink tier 8+. I'm loving the game and loving walking around with my daughter and wife as we beat up monsters together but I don't see how we can keep pushing through with these requirements. At some point the wall is going to be just too high.
Honestly, if they made the amount of Zenny you got worth it, I'd be more willing to buy it. Why is about $20 worth of gems only giving 10K zenny? That's just 3 days of daily quests. If they add a 0, I would consider it. But that's freaking pathetic.
If the three of you are hunting together, you're apparently in the sweet spot for monster HP. I've found G8 (4th play through of the story) a good spot to take your time and get the zenny you need from casually hunting 6 and 7 star monsters. Then keeping an eye out for the easier 8 star monsters (Jagras, Kulu, Puki, Barroth, Girros and to some extent Tobi) with the appropriate elemental weapons. IF you are thinking of buying gems: use them to double the wyvern shards. Additionally, if you can push through G8 story to G9 (not there yet myself), the lowest level monsters you'll likely find are 6 star which is the sweet spot for efficient zenny farming. The other thought I had is that only one of the three of you needs to grind up to G9 as you would act as the host for the other two. Anyways, glad to hear you all have something to play along together
I think the issue is that MH player base is mainly solo players. I play with 4 man and have a lot of friend's to play with. Which really feels like MHN is the most social version compared to all other series of MH
As a dedicated player, I got 5 weapons to G10, paying about 60$ over the entire time since release, in about 8 months.
I love the fact that you put Cyberpunk music in the background. Such a subtle, yet noticable message
I think that's not the correct approach, in that stage of the game the developers don't want you to get max weapons and armour. I think 10* will be the maximum for the years to come and marketing wise they couldn't promote a new and faster feature in the future if everyone allready has everything maxed out. They need to have these high limits, if they not wanna rebalance the game all the time with higher weapon grades. It's been the same with pokemon go and level 50, everyone complained at the beginning but at least you'll still have a goal to work towards, even after playing for several months. Without these goals everyone would just stop playing, after they got their weapons and armour maxed out.
The thing is, this is what the new generation of gamers are growing up on, so this type of practice will only get more and more common.
3:56, and you're only getting half as much if you spent that much money on gems a second time aswell. Yikes.
This upsets me but also doesn't surprise me at all. Mobile games have always been this money spending target. Not saying it makes it okay, but players are the ones enabling this type of mobile game market.
is not that bad, I mean this MH Series is a marathon game (not a sprint one that u can get R9 weap/armor just 4-5 hunts)
remember the G9 G10 is something u earned, not something u just got
People joke about EA being money hungry meanwhile mobile devs get away with this shit
Bro what!?!?! This is a huge LIE!!! I have a huge collection of G10 5/5 and I never payed close to 700 dollars...sucks to be spreading misinformation
This came out 9 months ago
Damn that’s a shame. I was gonna try it since it looked fun but I’m not dealing with such bad mobile game grinding
Legiana events feels like another way for people to spend more on potions, it’s incredibly unfair. Why not make quest with guaranteed rewards instead.
I don't know why they keep releasing events without event quests.
@@seanr.6498mfers in Niantic has an impression that everyone dont have jobs.
For the last 2 weeks I’ve been grinding a lot. Average around 15-17k Zenny each day (including the 3k from quest). I max out 5 weapons to level 7, and tons of armours to lvl 6 to maximum each each different weapons stats. I just started level 8 monsters 2 days ago.
Also I’ve killed 5233 large monster already. I average each kill to be 70zenny each only and it turns out to be 366,310 not including the side quest bonuses. So pretty much if I didn’t upgrade ANYTHING but my weapon, I would’ve gotten one max out weapon lmao.
I’m using SS for water and thunder. Lightbow for fire and ice. And the last is obviously a normal bow.
But in all honesty, maxing out just one weapon will slow down your game progress so don’t do that people. Focus on water,thunder, fire, ice, diablo bow. Those my five max weapons
The thing is you dont need to be at Grade 10 so fast. I'm just enjoying the Gameplay right now casually playing the game. Its a Slow Progress, but the Game is meant to be played for years.
thank you so much for uploading this, I'am just gonna start to play this game luckily I watched this first
Im rc84 with 2358 monsters killed..
You are telling me that i have to kill 3000 monsters 8+ to upgrade just ONE WEAPON....
Jaja funny
In my experience drop ratios are okey because the items you need to upgrade weapons are balanced in rarity with drops.
The problem is when you need an specific material like rarity 4, 5 or 6 and you dont get, when that happen blocks you to upgrade a weapon... but when you get that material you have the mats to upgrade the weapon a lot of levels, so i think monster hunter now must have:
⚠ 🔽 🔽 ⚠
- 2/3 more material slot per hunt. 🐘
- 2 more daily quests and improve: 📑
· Q1 1000 zenis - 3 slots for rarity 2 resources - 2 per slot 🍀🐞🏔
· Q2 1000 zenis - 2 refined armor + 4 rarity 3 resource (1 slot) 🍀🐞🏔
· Q3 1000 zenis - 2 refined weapon + 2 rarity 3 monster material (MM) - 1 rarity 4 MM 🐘🦏🦒
· Q4 500 zenis - 2 slots for rarity 3 resource - 2/3 per slot 🍀🐞🏔
· Q5 500 zenis - 1 monster and 1/2 MM of that monster to choose from (rarity to choose from too) - (This unlock the block i mentioned before) 🐘🦏🦒
- Ability to choose the minimum number of stars at which monsters appear, at least the ability to reduce them. ⭐⭐⭐
· Example: You cannot hunt an 8-star legiana, in this case you will be able reduce the stars of that legiana to 7.
- From the 6th star onwards, the number of zenis per monster is greater (Like he talks in video) 💰
I think this changes makes the game not frustrating and solve the problems this game have.
I hope TD read this and give their opinion about.
Big hug to community, im sure this game will change too great game ♥💙💚💜
Funny, I'm playing completely free, and not worrying about trying to finish the game in 2 days.
I've been playing for 5 months now, logging in a couple of times a day, while walking the dog. I spent 0 cash on the game, just enjoying it. I now have multiple grade 7 weapons and armor pieces and also have 600k zenny left. I think the game is fine as it is and it is not at all hard to raise the resources. It's the grinding for specific monster parts that thematically is the challenge. The video maker is hugely missing the mark IMO
Same for me. I have not spend a single penny in this game and i have G9 weapons, can kill everything pretty easy and don't see any reason to use money. In the contrary, using money would going to make the game faster and by the end i will not have any reason to play it
Only people with fomo problems are the ones that use a lot of money.
What the background song at 1:01 ?
As F2P I enjoy the game so much even in the confort of mi home and my job. I see really innecesary to spend that kind of money
i just feel like G10 weapons are something for the future, but they somehow already added it, even though the game has so little content to justify it. Also, they really need to up their game if they want to make it fresh and keep the players in. RN it has potential, but shitty events with monster subspecies won't be enough to keep the players, and the monetization system sucks. They're not fixing any problems of the game, and new ones keep appearing somehow.
Damn, that amount of money for one weapon?. You can just buy a new pc and then buy Monster Hunter World with Iceborne DLC or Monster Hunter Rise with Sunbreak DLC.
Or you can... Well play the game and not buy your weapon or armor pieces. This video feels dumb honestly. "If you buy it costs a lot of money" Well no shit Sherlock. The game is free, they have to make the money somewhere.
"But the grind is intense" It's a mobile game, you're not supposed to finish it in a month, it's supposed to keep its player base for months and it does this by absurd grind and regular event/updates. It's a marathon, not a sprint and a lot of players don't seem to get that
@@erwannlacroix2150imagine playing a shit game
@@erwannlacroix2150 it only take 2 month to max lvl of one character in gacha game so I can enjoy the *early* content. Plus MH have ton of monster to be releases if they want to keep it going. Having full complete set is what drive MH player to keep playing.
@@akilakill4144 I've pretty much maxxed Furina in Genshin in less than a week, which means lvl, skill and relics. Aside from that, I can go farm better relics and improve her weapon and it certainly won't take two months.
Even in Fate/GO which was brutal, I could do the same with the gathered stocks and even then it wouldn't take a month to max a character aside from skills.
Also a set is maxxed out in Now at r6 as you have already unlocked all the skills, it's definitely doable for pretty much everyone, the brutal grind comes later and at this point, it's basically get more attack/def to hunt the same monsters with more hp/atk so basically pointless if you don't want the challenge or completion
@@erwannlacroix2150 yourself admit it that other gacha game allow you to maxed it. Grade 6 can't do crap against 8 or more...
You just contradict yourself bruh.. :V
For now let's see if Tiantic dumb enough to not listen. If they still refuse, they would seriously lose it all in long run for real as main franchise release new game within years or soo. Which everyone waiting for.
i have 6 weapons on 5-6lvl and 2 sets of armor, and im farming on lvl 6 monsters and below and i have 60.000 zenny, but im constantly missing monster pars, farming 2, 3, 4 tier monster parts is nightmare, i must constantly delete houndreds of tier 1 monster parts coz box limited space and im getting only few 2-3 tier parts... this is kinda uppseting, i hope they will balance it. also you shoud be able to sell parts or upgrade them (even 50 to 1 would be something)
Niantic still doing stupid decisions no matter the game, I'm sad that people cannot fully have fun playing THEIR game.
This video just crushed my hopes and dreams for this game
This!
Everyone who's working on a G6 weapon has been able to easily spot the fact that the item drops and Zenny feels insufficient. (Putting it lightly.)
But this! Way to spell it out for us and assign monetary and time sink values to the actual grind.
We can grind this game every day for over a year and still not complete 1 build?
And here I am planning a variety of builds for shits and giggles.😅
a third of a g10 weapon or MHWI for the entire family? hmmm difficult choice
Realised this game was a waste of time by the time the Halloween update came out. It was addictive to play on my long commute to work (when it actually let you play) and I even spent a bit of money every so often, such a shame.
I’m becoming more convinced to believe that people who play this game are either too innocent and ill-informed to know about the abusive monetization in mobile games or are simply too lazy to invest in a proper gaming console/PC.
With 700-800$ you can easily buy a Nintendo Switch, PlayStation or XBox plus several games or a decent gaming laptop.
you can still play the game and have fun without spending 700$ though
My main issue is the Item box storage. Already maxxed out 10400 out of 10500.
I have a grade 10 level 3/5 weapon and it is just a grind. But any true monster hunter fan will understand that's what the game series is about grinding the monsters to get the parts you need. I love this game and personally love the upates they keep putting out to make it better. Those complaining clearly have zero experience with the series and should just go back to playing Pokemon go 😂
and I still can't get enough material to even make a rathalos helm
You’re not intended to get rarity 10 right away, the game is designed for being a long term experience, do your dailies, maybe hunt a couple extra things or farm parts from an event. For what it is I’m enjoying the game, nice little excuse to get outside.
Who upgrades armor passed the last skill upgrade? And it’s understandable to have so much grind. We can’t have maxed players so quickly.
Bruh...kids wanna be op from the start with g10 weapon and armor lol i didnt need to spend any money to buy zenny and i Still.have g9 weapon and having fun😂
From this day forward i won't complain about my drops ever again on main series
😂😂😂
this video didn't age well 🤣
why not? can u explain pls
I only hunt the monsters for fun. Already gave up on the grind. The item is full of the mats and no bones insects and stuff. Since I don't go out of my way to get to certain biom, doing the quest entirely depends on luck. It took about 2 weeks to meet 2 Diablos
Leave it to Niantic to introduce greed into a franchise that never had this issue before
Pretty sure world and rise are proof that this franchise already had greed.
@@thechugg4372 how so
@@thechugg4372care to explain?
You referring to the skins?
@@thechugg4372bro yapped and never returned
I’m still pissed capcom removed Monster Hunter Freedom Unite off the app stores! Like the full blown game! Ofc i’ll never get my $15 back now.
I tried playing this game for like an hour and was so incredibly bored I just deleted it. I could tell it was a cash grab. I’m not sure what I expected, but this app sucked.
Addiction is expensive. Don't try to max out everything, especially on mobile games. You have to accept that 99% of mobile games are grindy, and there're literally no end games on mobile games. Once you max out on everything, they will drop an expansion with new overpowered monsters and you'll have to grind all over again. Don't fall for that crap.
Play casually, go for a walk and take down few monster along your way and close the game when you run out of potions.
That's how I enjoy the game so far at 6 stars. And I have been fighting 6 stars monsters for weeks.
I've been at rarity 8 weapons for a while and I have the same sentiment. I see no point in trying to get to G10L5 as fast as possible because I have fun hunting things and trying out different armor and weapon combos
Man the game is only been out for a year and people are so focused on maxing already, you don’t need to spend money to get to G10 why is everyone in a race to beat the game it’s all the events, dailies and other quests you can esilly make the 451k Zenny all I’m seeing is impatience. Now that games have options to boost with real money people forget that games require grinding and now a week grind or month grinds feel impossible to you like man just stop gaming then
This seems like a great game to me… If I could easily max out everything it would make me sad and I would stop playing eventually
Nice scam
I stopped the video to listen to cyberpunk main menu theme that you putted in the video. this theme is so powerful
Theres basically no difference between g6 to g10 monster anyway, just dont go NG+ and you wont need g10 weapon 😂. Think of it as late game padding content like anomaly or guiding lands.
It is predatory but its not like the gameplay is any different with higher grade equipment.
To others who skipped, try it, the game is actually really fun 😅
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im just a big mh fan who enjoys chill hunts. Happy hunting!
You are right. TDS is exaggerating. It's true that the requirements to get lv10 weapons are too high, but the game is made for a normal player to never reach the "end". If they had made it easy everyone would be with maxed out lv10 gear and there would be no content anymore.
The game is a lot of fun up to lv 6 monsters
@@joa6336 I agree it's fun until lategame, but then what? The difficulty and the grind both become too high there. If you reach lategame, do you quit?
@@razorsharp5643no, but it still slows down a bit (if you choose to) until they release new content, just like literally every game out there
I downloaded it when it released, and I had a ton of fun with it! That enthusiasm has diminished massively, and I haven't touched it in probably 2 weeks. The weather getting colder where I live isn't doing the game any favors mind you, but yeah the grind is just too much. And I'm only at 5/6 star hunts. I can't be bothered to fight a dozen of one monster and get exactly zero of the mats I need. Maybe if they up the drop rate I'll come back, but yeah, it's just...ugh.
rather buy the real MHW
I'm glad I'm not just crazy. I hit such a wall of progression playing this game after a few weeks, and while I wasn't actively going on walks and searching out monsters, playing VERY casually here and there, the fact I was so stuck made me drop it HARD. For a franchise literally built around the idea of progression, if I don't feel like I'm able to progress ANYTHING about my builds, gear, or even get strong enough to unlock all the monsters, then there is something deeply flawed with the games design, even if it was designed around getting you to spend money. Why would I spend even $50 on a game, to not make any progress, in the most watered down version of the game-play the franchise has had to date, when I could use that same money (or in my case, none, since I own both World and Rise already) and play a 10000x more in depth, and satisfying version?
And the worst part is I was having a great time with the game for the first couple weeks. The idea and reality of playing MH on the go is super fun, but at the point that the grind becomes near impossible, especially with the insane RNG, the game stopped feeling like Monster Hunter.
you dont earn playing this game. this is click bait!!!