CUSTOM FIT is POINTLESS if you do this!
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What a great video Andy! Every time I go a fitting, it turns into a long drive competition against myself ....and it's worse indoors
I have been a great customer set after set ,next time I'll try your system thanks
I am going in for a custom fitting tomorrow. I'm so glad I came across this video first, I'm sure I will struggle to not compete with myself but I will try to take this recommendation with me and improve the fitting experience. Thx Andy
Good luck Brad 👍
Very interesting Andy. I'm sure that we all go to the range and our swing changes from the one we use out on the course. I like very much the fact that your custom fitter (Mike) was able to go out with you to witness/confirm that the time spent with you on the range was well spent and that the changes he suggested actually helped you. For the "ordinary Joe" though this level of service is probably not available.
Andy, I just want to say, as a mid handicap guy(ie; average), I get more out of your videos than all the other golf vid's I watch. Thanks!
Wish I could have been there. You have explained exactly what I suffer from. Overswinging. I have occasionally made a swing well within my limits and been amazed at the distance created.
Yes it defies what we think might happen
@@TheAverageGolfer yes very valid point overswinging at the range or indoor simulators...also is it worth getting custom fit if you dont have a consistant swing? (high handicapper)
As ever Andy you make a great point and that is why I never go to Fitting Days where EVERYONE is trying to hit the ball as fast as they can. In an individual fitting where it's just you and the fitter the adrenaline and testosterone aren't as disruptive.
For me the main problem with Fittings and particularly Driver fittings is fatigue. These days after approx 20 warmed-up driver swings I start to get. So it's crucial that I make each swing count before my swing speed starts to tails off.
This is such a good call out! Great job by the fitter as well on this!
due to budget and my mental health issues and self confidence I have never had lessons or fit Itake what u say andy as I love the channel so much been a big lad with problems not a good player just happy to be playing
and out off all the you tube channels this is by far the best as for some reason u make us all feel connected it feels like every one know each other
I did the exact same thing in a recent driver fitting. Over the 60 shots of the fitting it became clear that when I used my on course tempo the ball went further and with less dispersion. It’s boosted my on course confidence so much
Going for a driver fitting in next few weeks swing and game is down a bit at the mo so
Have to agree in previous fittings number are always looks at by the fitter
I did the same thing. My fitter didn't use swing speed in the fitting. He ignored it completely. He said speed speed isn't important. It's more how you load the shaft, how much spin, and launch angle. My swing speed was a "stiff" shaft. But my swing transition and shaft loading was more regular shaft. Glad I did this because that philosophy was spot on!! Swing speed isn't the most important factor in shaft choice.
I agree andy, I was forced recently during a custom fit to hit the hardest I could. Whilst in these condition it was ok, but when I get to the fair way it doesn’t work as well for me. I was being fitted for G430 and whist everyone is raving about them I could hit them well at max speed.
Awesome that Andy, and you are bang on. It is so easy to get carried away and swing at everything trying to hit our ‘flex’ numbers and not on course numbers.
Looking forward to seeing some rounds with them mate
Another great informative video mate.
Amazing as I’ve got older im not interested how far I hit it off the tee as much now more so how consistent or good the strikes are
Graphite Design VR is exactly what I have in my woods. Excellent shaft, quite similar to the DI and the IZ.
This an excellent video Andy, one of your best....IMO we would all be better chasing "functional" distance, keep up the good work....
Great Observation. I went for a lesson and did the same thing and Pro told me to swing at half that speed till you are striking dead center ever time.
It really works!
It has been my practice for a while to do just that, I have slowed my swing to focus on club face at impact
I was consistently hitting toe deep with my standard loft irons so I got a set with +2° lie angle only to have the same problem. That’s how I realized the root cause of the problem was my static set-up posture which was allowing the “dynamic” swing force changes in the downswing to pull me off balance on my toes through impact without ever realizing it because of the way the subconscious brain figures out a way to stay in balance. When swinging a heavy mass on a stick around the body the subconscious brain will try to steer it to a place where it isn’t causing imbalance, which isn’t the ideal path to deliver club face to ball consistently.
Once I was aware what my problem was I revisited Ben Hogan’s drill in which you start with 1/4 swing shot with a 7 iron, from takeaway to finish extension, with goal of consistently hitting those clips dead straight then gradually increasing the swing arc to increase the swing force variable. Sure enough I discovered as I increased the variable of swing arc and force I began to be pulled off balance. It was simply a matter of correcting posture and learning to keep “dynamic” tension in the legs to anticipate and counter the force pulling forward by pushing back an equal amount.
The net effect of that “club pulls / legs push back” dynamic is the body stays in the same place over the feet in perfect balance. Because the force increases faster than the brain can react when the club swings around the hands and accelerates (which increases force exponentially) you need to learn to proactively prepare and start counter the force with the legs before it increases.
One of the keys for learning the timing for doing that is using the index finger of the trail hand on the shaft for feedback on when the club head is starting to transition from pulling the wrists back in radial deviation to accelerating around the hands. When the pressure on the index finger held on the side of the grip like on the trigger of a gun starts to decrease the legs need to prepare to counter and balance the pull of the club which is about to occur.
Once I fixed my balance problem on the mats at the range I found I didn’t need the added up lie angle on the clubs and was better able to judge and anticipate being pulled off balance on uneven lies. Its worth noting I was playing every day (weather permitting) when I was doing this but it took about two months to groove the new subconscious reflexes.
I see Peter finch in the background there
I’ve found my swing actually speeds up on the course and it’s slower on the range. Adrenaline gets going. Especially when the heart rate rises we move faster. I do a combo of smooth swings in fitting and really go after it a few times to simulate that on course scenario and see how that impacts spin, ball speed, and flight.
Good vid. Hello to Peter Finch in the background!
Great video.....and very good idea to just swing normal when getting fit. But you are not the only one who does it. Many players swing out of there shoes during fitting to get the numbers up and then don't play that way on the course at all.
Question. You doing any members only videos soon? Or have you done any? I am not getting any notices for the members only videos? I know you are a busy man...I was just curious. Will always support you brother.
Yes recording extra content this week
Did that cost you $30`000 for that PXG Experience Andy?
Great video! And a great reminder for our squad of master fitters. 💯 ^Chelsea
Did PXG fit you for a putter too? If so, which one did you go with? Very very nice shot out of the bunker by the way.
Hi Andy was your driver and woods regualr shaft or stiff. Thanks
Stiff 👍
What an experience. Very lucky boy!
Absolutely
I'm pretty sure you are in Tucson, you probably said and I didn't understand it. Looked damn nice out for the dessert to me. Not many would understand that it can still snow in the dessert, but what a beautiful course
Scottsdale
@@TheAverageGolfer awesome either way, love Arizona 👍🏼👍🏼
Regular or Stiff
The fitter needs a custom fit bobble hat!
You’ve hit a lot of PXG clubs since they came onto the market…… I bought a full bag of gen 4 last year and my question is are these Gen 6 an improvement?? My irons and wedges are very very good but gotta say I’m not in love with the gen 4 driver
Hi Matt - We saw a significant uptick in performance, including speed, distance, and dispersion, in robotic testing between GEN4 and GEN5 and then on to GEN6. We will hope you'll give it a try in a fitting so our team can dial it in for you. ^Chelsea
There’s no sound for the first minute! Andy.
Eh?
@@TheAverageGolfer There is sound in the right channel only. So if for some reason @grannygrumpy1365 only listens to the left channel, it will be silent...
Apparently a microphone is also pointless for a lease 1 minute.
Fine on my phone and Tv?
Just one big ad !
You’re still watching ‘em 🤣🤣
If you say the shaft is the engine - then you know less than I thought you did. That is just silly.
Talking of silly…..
If you don't have a consistent swing than it's no use as you'll have your clubs adjusted for that swing and if you have 12 different swings than don't waste your money.
Any fitting indoors is useless. You never get a perfectly even lies and its almost never perfectly dry.
Yes I found it hard as my numbers are always better in doors.
LAFD
The worst thing with fitting and having 'numbers' available to you is you will start competing with yourself. Best not to look and have screens you can see switched off for the session.
Is that Peter Finch in the background in AZ?
6 years ago I made a mistake I will never make again. Living in the Pacific Northwest, I do not play winter golf due to the rain and very soft conditions. I got club fitted at the start of the golf season when my swing was "rusty". A few months later, when my swing was more normal, I realized my new clubs were no longer appropriate. Having new and shiny clubs to start the golf season is exciting...... but waiting until getting fitted and knowing you purchased the right set of clubs is much more satisfying.
A very good observation. Hitting ten balls in two minutes vice one ball every 5-8 is VERY different!
I've said this before and I get roasted for it but here goes. I firmly believe that for the "average golfer", custom fitting renders very little return on the investment. I was in the tennis industry for years and the one thing we had to do is come up with different revenue streams each year. The oversized racquet, the tear drop shaped racquet, the Blackburne tennis racquet strung on both sides, all were an attempt to convince people to buy. I've been playing golf for a long time and I don't believe that custom fitting will improve your game significantly. Spend the money on lessons and you may see better overall results.
Great points. Would LOVE a trip like that to Scottsdale PXG!! Looking forward to watching more of your PXG videos. Can’t wait for my Gen 6 fitting 😊
We're excited to welcome you in for your fitting 😄 ^Chelsea
Where is pxg main facility?
You have made the kid famous now.😂😂
What an unbelievable place that pxg centre is mate, awesome stuff
Great thing with PXG is that all there shafts are top end ,brilliant thanks
Simon looking as though he slept on the bus! 😂. Love the swing speed thoughts about not overdoing it. Well done Andy/PXG
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Andy, this is in my view how a fitting should be done - including the on course experiment. Nobody does fittings like PXG does…..PERIOD!! 😂😂😂
A fitting like that would be worth about $1000 to me!!
You obviously get the best custom fit possible…..there doesn’t seem to be a time table for getting the best fit possible.
I’ve had a couple of custom fits in the last couple of years…..and you are on the clock ……I never felt like the final product was that great!
One of the fittings was at a place often touted as having the best fitters in the business…….$150 for an iron fitting and was only able to hit a 6 iron!
I watch quite a few Utube vloggers talk about hitting the clubs inside a studio and also hitting them on a golf course when going for a fitting. That is a myth……..nobody offers that in a fitting!
Sorry if I’m sounding negative!
I have 100mph driver speed and I use Reg flex. I just like the feel better.
You need to sell some of those “AVG.” hats! I’d definitely buy one!
Agree - so a baby fade with a driver when I test them out - and seems to me Andy stiffer for hybrids and fairways and tad softer in the driver as tend to go after the hybrids and fairways a bit more -
Lovely and knowledgeable bloke, Mike
Good day! It’s Ronnel here in Canada, 53 years of age. My swing speed is similar to yours. I am currently playing Gen4 set. Would you mine to share your driver, wood and iron head/shaft specs? Cheers.
The driver shaft was the Graphite Design VR 60 stiff, the fairways and hybrids Tensei Blue stiff and irons steelfiber i95 stiff
I think I tend to swing faster on the course than on the range or in a studio
Really? I find that odd
When you can send the specs on the shaft you had placed in your driver. Thanks
Graphite Design VR 60 stiff 👍
@@TheAverageGolfer thanks
Someone didn't custom fit their audio lol.
Yep