Investing in a good chair is the best thing you can buy nowdays. People keep a desk chair for 3-4-5 years. Which means a lot of sitting in that chair. Spending 300-500$ on a better chair will make you avoid some hospital bill for your back down the road.
I just bought the cloth Titan, but I was using a $200+ Costco office chair for like the past 8 years, lol. I am so far extremely happy with upgrading my chair after like 15 minutes of total sit time lol.
Im using a 80€ chair by IKEA for the last 8 years and I can tell that the first like 6 years i never had any back problems, but especially the last year my back hurts a lot when Im sitting in this chair. After many videos and hourhs of seaching for a new chair I finally decided which chair i wanted and now i have to wait till the 28th of october till my titan chair will arrive :'(
As a fat guy, the titan has been amazing. I’m not worried about if the chair will break like I was with cheap office chairs. The little neck pillow is a must, and the lumbar support is very uncomfortable for me. I went with the all black leather and it does breath, I don’t get sweaty. And now that I’m working from home, it was definitely a great investment. 9/10 donuts.
Yeah man idk, i have a normal (read: cheap) gaming chair and i love the lumbar support it has, however my ass hurts cause i sit most of the day and it IS breaking fast af, so i wonder if i should drop this kinda cash on the titan :
Thanks mate, i could say this was very most honest review bout this chair, though i got myself another “gaming chair” but i couldnt agree more with your views... not many honest review outside regarding to this chair, but i could say this is one of the few worth watching!
I have this chair and not only is the customer service outstanding but the chair for me a year and a half later, looks just like how I bought it. This chair is perfect. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat
@@abramlionel4990 Bro this chair is fire! I did have my gripes with it at first. like the seat at the edge was a little too firm and my legs were a little uncomfortable. But fast forward a few weeks and that bitch get mega comfy.
This is the most honest review i have ever watch on these chairs. Everybody else got it for free n try it for a few days and you sir, deserve more views n subs!! subbed
Thx brother in Arms! Disabled Vet here, Navy. I will check out the review for the fabric version. Too bad the VA wont help me with this purchase, they broke my back but are like, CYA!
Sounds about right...unfortunately. I've had a pretty good experience when going to the VA for emergency. I had emergency had surgery, and they treated me really well. You might try transfer to another VA hospital.
Nice Review! For new buyers it’s important to know that the 2020 version upgrade is really _huge_ in quality, especially in case of the PU leather, arm rests/metal parts, foam pillar, aso. Though I would recommend the Softweave version, itˋs much more pleasent under hot _and_ under cold conditions. In addition it simply has more „grip“.
I've had the softweave version for a year and a half and it's been really good. I'm a skinny tall guy so I went with the titan and I've never felt it was too firm for me even though that's what I complain the most about any other regular chair. This summer was one of the hottest and only at certain times would I feel like I was sweating a little too much and would take a quick break. The material seems the same as the day I got it. I believe it depends on how well you take care of it. There's no tears or anything. My biggest complaint would have to be the armrest where they can feel a bit flimsy but I believe the 2020 version fixed that issue.
Just bought one, a Titan XL. Nobody told me that sweat and skin contact is bad for the PU leather chair. Until I read the maintenance sheet that came with the package... Well, there is a simple solution. Cover the chair with a wool plaid or a cotton sheet. That will allow for breathing in the contact area. Remove it when not in use and wipe the chair dry if necessary. Had it less than a day so I can't really say what I think about it. Except that my chronic back pain has eased considerably just in the short time I have had this chair. The firmness of the seat is a bit on the hard side but since I weigh in on 280 lbs it might be a good thing in the long run.
Nice review, I was interested in getting this with the fabric finish, but now I'm eyeing the Ergo chair 2, would like to see a video of that after a couple of years, but in the meantime keep them coming
I own an Omega with the Fabric and love it. It is breathable, doesn't seem to stain easy, low maintenance, actually none over the last year and a half.
I bought the MyoChair and returned it - willing to bet the ErgoChair 2 has similar issues given the overall shape. If you're looking for something that'll keep your back straight and upright, the ErgoChair won't do it. The lumbar support is really nice, but there is no upper back support. I found it worked better with a desk that had a keyboard tray, but I don't regularly use one, so it definitely wasn't for me. The angle it forced me to look at when leaning back in it was too high vs. where my monitor was. Just some fair warning - they have 30 and 15 day trials in the US and Canada respectively. Keep your original box or otherwise you can't refund it.
Got the omega and I'm 6'5 and it works very well size wise. I wish the head had a small indent on both sides though for the straps on the pillow. Very comfy.
That's good to know! Without being a weirdo, mind if I ask how much you weigh? People comment all the time asking if X size is good for an Omega. I always default to the Titan if they''re 6' and up.
Im wondering the same im stuck cuz my height is omega but weight is titan but the sides on omega seem to not give enough to spread ur legs as one wld want cuz the curve restricts you but the titan doesnt have that problem as much but the lumbar support is pff for shorter ppl how much do u weight?
I just made the dive and picked up a 2020 Titan with the "SoftWeave" cloth. I do not regret it at all. Very glad I went with the cloth and I think it would fix your sweating problem if you could go back and change which chair you have now. It definitely supports me better than any chair I have had previously. I'm short for the Titan but I weigh too much for the Omega and it works out well. I actually really like the head pillow, it's very comfortable and being able to move it around helps a lot. I kind of wish the Titan came with a lumbar pillow. I couldn't get the adjustable lumbar support to work well for me so I'm using a pillow. Will probably get a nice looking memory foam one sometime, but right now it's the same one I was using in my old ratty chair... Glad I'm not the only one who sits in odd positions in their chair. :)
Do you got any static discharges? I hear alot about ppl using the softweave that they get zapped after touching metal things when sitting in this chair.
I've very happy with my Titan SoftWeave Fabric chair. It arrived last month, and have been using it daily for work at home, and gaming at night. It's a very heavy chair. It also feels super sturdy. It's surprisingly stiff. I went with the Softweave for a couple of reasons. First, my last 3 chairs were made with that fake leather material. It feels and looks nice at first. But that lasts only a few years. But it will eventually peel in these tiny fragments. Second, my cats liked clawing and peeling off the fake leather fragments in tiny bits at a time. Think of it like a thick vinyl coating, that when you peel off you have this intact naked cushion. You can still sit on it, but it looks terrible. So far my cats don't seem to be that interested in this Softweave chair. They act the same towards our fabric couch in the living room. It took me about 20 minutes to assemble the chair myself. All the tools you need are included. Although I had a minor issue that the left side of the chair does not look like the left side pictured in the 1 page instuctions, nor the video. "Why does it look different? Is it missing a bracket?", were my initial thoughts. I emailed their tech support, with pictures and got a response within 12 hours that all was normal. They just need to update their video and 1 page to show the correct left side of the chair. I guess that part of the design got updated recently. That said, I'm still super happy with this purchase. My 2 gripes are; 1 it is expensive. And, 2 the logo and lettering on the chair is a bit tacky. But you get what you pay for. And I can live with the logo and lettering. Glad to hear your chair is still holding up after 2 years.
I love my Titan and the lumber support is on point - the little neck cushion does the job and really comfortable - all the adjustment options are appreciated. I prefer the firmness as there is no give like a ever declining cushion over time. Also its built like a tank. Very Durable.
Due to my weight the cushion on the seat is always a problem because in a few months all the foam or watherver it is inside is not holding well, would you say this Titan chairs do a good job in the long time with the cushion on the seat?
I had the omega. I bought it when I gamed casually but when I started coding and sitting in a chair 8-12 hours a day my neck and back started hurting like crazy. I spent the money on a Herman Miller embody and my body thanks me so much. It’s a night and day difference.
I have an Omega, and the wear and tear is definitely a con on the PU Leather. However, upgrading to the the "Napa Leather" might be a very valid option, as the wear and tear is the only thing I have had wrong with it.
I unboxed my own SecretLab chair today!! I bought the Titan Evo 2022 size small and it's really nice and comfortable! It's just that my feet can't still fully reach the floor even on the chair's lowest height.
It appears Secretlabs has a lot of reviewers on their payroll because other than this honest video every other one I've watched was more of an infomercial then a review. Thanks. Good job.
This video isnt honest at all. If u look in the description you'll find hes sponsored by them. He posted his link as everything... This guy will sell your back for his profits buy an office chair second hand steelcases/herman miller/and many others will cost you the same as the 500 secret lab.
Ive had this chair for 2 years and its awesome. I also have fell asleep in it plenty of times and it has actually helped with my back pain. I don't have the leather version, which i'm very thankful for. Best chair I have ever owned. It is quite firm, but it feels the exact same as the day I bought it.
@@denypopovici8150 definitely. The chair is always cool. This is my first non leather chair and its been great. If you have any animals just cover it up when you are not using it.
Eric Tysinger thank you, i m just movin to uni, so i dont have pets anymore. Although, i m very concerned w some reviews saying that this chair is hard as a rock :( Can u tell me smth about it?
@@denypopovici8150 it is firm but personally I haven't had any aches from long gaming sessions. The chair gets just a tiny bit softer after a while. I'd definitely say the firmness helps you over time. Especially if you have back pain
I'm from Singapore. I have mine in 2017 as a birthday gift. It's start peeling in 2018 after a year and a half of usage. As mine was from 2017, the warranty does not cover peeling compared to those after 2018. It cost around SGD$600-700 for my Omega version. I'm still using it, but black spots are everywhere on my floor due to the rolling of the wheels of the chair over the peelings on the floor. It's a mess, but it's too expensive to throw it away. T-T I use it shirtless but i covered/protected it with a shirt. It just dun help due to the humility of my environment.
Discovered your channel yesterday and I cannot believe you don't have a million sub. Top notch quality and super interesting. Also your voice is so calm. I'm really happy to sub and support your channel :)
I bought this Titan PU leather chair for my son who is 6’ 4” and 175lbs. He spends a lot of time in this chair. Within a year we had to discard the chair. Within 2 months the arm rest started to crack and plastic break off. We contacted Secret Labs and they replaced the arm rest. Unfortunately, the same problem happened with the replacement and also happened on the other side. The seat cushion also collapsed so it felt like you were sitting on a bar. We helped with this by putting a board between the cushion and bar. The swivel started to lean to on side. In the end I thought I bought a quality chair and it didn’t last as long as a cheap chair.
came here for chair info obviously, but i just wanted to say that you seem like a very nice and genuine person, even in the tone of your voice and way of speech i can tell dude, thank you :)
I got the Secret Labs Titan XL 2020 Edition in the new Soft Weave fabric. While the build quality is superb and it got so many features and settings this is still maybe the worst purchase i've done in years. Not being soft like a couch is an understatement. The chair is so hard I get pain after 2 hours in this chair, I also got some problem with blood flow to my legs if I sit leaned back for any longer period of time since the seat is that far out so it makes a pressure against the underside of my thighs. I did also find the lumbard support being useless since all that it does is putting a hard spot against my back while leaving my lumbard without any support at all. Tried my 3 years old IKEA Markus after been using this chair for 2 weeks and I somehow sit way more comfortable in that. I believe this chair depends alot on your body and height, but it is really stiff! Just wanted to point this information out since I see alot comments about how stiff it is, but all the reviews never complains more then mention it's abit stiff.
Nice honest review, I like the back pain stretch video alot aswell! Thanks for that, it has really improved my daily living having some stretches to do that help me.
i like your comment about gaming not needing a dedicated chair. thats why i bought a herman miller off of ebay and fixed the problems it had over time. worth it, and of course cheaper than a brand new one
I’ve been eyeing this chair for a while now and seeing all of your compiles experiences in this video was very helpful because I have been looking for a long time durability test on this chair. Thank you for the info.
I got my Secret Lab Titan XL last week, Wednesday, I have not had it a week yet and I 100% love it. I watched your video because you are a bigger guy like me, no offense. But that played a huge role( no pun intended )in my decision. The chair I had was somewhat comfortable, I had to buy all the extra pillows lumbar, head etc, but I still felt very sore after sitting in it for my 10 hour shift. I felt like I was in a fight, achy and sore. Since getting this Titan, I still have soreness but nowhere near the amount as before. 10-14 hours a day behind a desk and pc is a long time to be sitting I don’t care who you are. It is worth every cent in my opinion, it’s not been a week yet I know, but the chair really is fantastic. It is firm but that is actually welcome. I have the leather and I am fine with it, I don’t really notice the sweating like was mentioned, my office is air conditioned, but not well, I have two fans so maybe that’s why. I will probably buy one for my wife as well, she works long hours also. Thanks for the video, it made the decision easy for me. I appreciate your time.
Some insight into PU leather. All PU Leather eventually peels. Its the nature of the material. I have had three PU Leather chairs, from three different manufacturers (Not secret lab), and all have inevitably started peeling. The average time til the peeling starts is about three years. After the third chair I swore off PU Leather forever and decided to go fabric. The fact that your chair started peeling after two years is not a good sign. This is most likely due to the sweating and hot/humid environment. Both of which can expedite the peeling process. I'm sorry to say that its going to get worst over time. Just for some context, my first desk chair that i ever bought (i currently use as a back up chair), which is fabric, looks as good today as the day i bought it. That chair is 27 years old. To replace my last PU Leather chair, I also went with the Secret lab titan, but went with the soft weave. Awesome chair. When you replace your chair, and i'm sorry to say that you will be replacing it, go with the soft weave. Its comfortable , its breathable and you won't be replacing it in three years. Hope this helps.
I decided to pre-order the NAPA version of the Titan, as they claim it would be a breathable kind of leather; hugely expensive, but hey... only have one back and we've been doing home-working for months now. I really hope the NAPA will be 'best of both worlds', otherwise it'll be a very expensive mistake :(
Joeri De Strijker If you don’t like it or just think it isn’t worth that money, the fabric one is very comfortable and doesn’t peel as Pu leather it’s very durable and has great features and base material
@@outplayed458 I actually absolutely hope I WILL like the NAPA chair... would be most disappointed otherwise! The Soft Weave would have been second choice as the PU would probably peel off very quickly
I love how every comment is someone saying they love their titan chair, I own one and mine is so uncomfortable and hurts my back. It’s just very suspicious that every review on UA-cam of this chair, every top comment talks about how they love their chair
I'm 170cm 67kg and have one in cloth. This chair is really good for my back, I have space to wiggle and during summers in my easy 30+C room I have no issues. Would recommend cloth chairs to anyone since I bought this, nothing broke sofar, everything looks like day one and its been over a year. I sit in it every day for 8 hours +.. I've been recommending them to everyone that brought up looking for a new chair and will continue doing so. Some of my best spend money on a purchase on any product ever. Thats just how I feel about my secretlabs. And as a sidenote, the packaging it was send in was verry solid, everything was really bubbled in really well, foamsheets covering fabric etc. I felt like I really made some really high premium purchase, and to this date the chair has lived up to that initial feeling. But thats ofc my experience and my feeling about it.
Owned my Secret Lab Omega for over a year and a half. Really great, no issues. Mine is the fabric and I highly recommend it and do in fact find it very breathable.
I just got a Titan yesterday - I chose it in part because I have GERD and sometimes I get up in the middle of the night because of reflux and if I can't sleep in a semi-elevated position I won't get any sleep. So it was nice to find a chair that I can sleep in if I need to.
7:45 I'll probably drape a towel over the back like I've done with the Turcotte from Staples that the Titan I should be getting in tomorrow is replacing. 10:18 At least my dogs should know better than to jump onto it, especially my oldest. Although the Turcotte mentioned above broke at the arms, first left, then had to break off the other just to get it through the narrow path of my bedroom doorway and now he's using what's left of the seat portion.
PU leather / faux leather (fake leather) is known to degrade over time with skin contact and in humid conditions generally. If you want to reduce the risk of that happening over time, avoid skin contact where possible. Or just buy the softweave version of SecretLab's newest Titan (Evo 2022) model. You will have to be more careful to guard against spills and stains with the softweave material, and it should also be noted that the softweave editions of SecretLab's Titan chairs have suede accents in a lot of cases, which definitely do not react well to fluids. You can however offset this with some suede waterproofing spray made for shoes (ask the missus!). The softweave fabric will almost certainly last longer than PU, and if pilling develops, a quick run-over with an electric fabric razor (like the Remington Fuzz-Away) will solve that in no short order. There is a reason the PU version is the cheapest model to buy. It's because it's the cheapest to make, and is the cheapest in quality of the range as a whole. None of them are 'cheap', per-se, but pay the extra and get the softweave one over the PU one if in 5 years you don't want to have to be buying a new one (yet again). And if you absolutely MUST have leather, well save your pennies and pay for the NAPA leather model. That one is proper natural leather (AFAIK), and will last a lot longer than the PU one, you'll just have to offer up an arm or a leg, or maybe a kidney to buy it, lol.
I also have felines and they don't scratch my gaming chair for the following reason(s): A) I have a thick bedsheet (not blanket), but bedsheet that drape over the chair to prevent dirt and body sweat from permeating into the fabric. Plus, it serves as a buffer in case one of my felines does decide to put up a paw on the chair. B) I get two or three scratching posts and a five foot length cat tree inside my room to keep my kitties occupied and thus, something else to scratch their paws on. Applying A) & B) solutions as stated above has resulted in no scratches from my felines. I also scoot them away from laying down on the chair as I want to define clear boundaries where they are allowed and where they are not allowed. Felines scratch things as a normal relaxing part of their routine and thus I discourage them getting comfortable around my gaming chair (& computer, for that matter), Ravi Peiris M.D.
I have the Titan 2020 (charcoal blue soft weave) and enjoy it a lot. Two years old and still looks great. Only bummer is that it is a dust magnet and have to vacuum it a lot but no biggie. The lumbar support adjustment is great for my back. Very pleased with it.
I would honestly love a video showing all the workouts you could do with a heavy gaming chair, and maybe lighter ones with some other gaming equipment for length?
I don't think the flaking is your fault. It's just part of the territory that comes with faux leather chairs. Mine is faux leather too and it flaked after a couple years of ownership. No matter how much you baby it, you can't avoid the fact that you're putting 100-200lbs of pressure on the surface and moving around. Even if you had saved the edges from flaking, the center of the seat will eventually start flaking. You have that to look forward to in year 3. As for your room temp issue, have you tried a box fan in the window? The fan would be loud enough to keep people outside from hearing you, and I reckon RTX Voice could remove the noise pretty well from your voice audio, if you've got one of the RTX cards. Just my two cents.
Yea I’ve come to the conclusion that PU leather just isn’t for me. I’ve made a follow up review video on the newer model SoftWeave Titan and it’s so much better. Check that video out. The heat isn’t nearly as bad anymore now that the temps are cooling down. It’s quite comfortable these days. I had a fan in the room before and the windows open, and it helped a bit but it’s still warm. I’ve tried RTX Voice with my 1080 Ti but didn’t like it. In the new year I plan on building a new PC which will not only have a 3080, but I’m hoping it will run cooler as well. Thanks so much for the support, comments, and suggestions!
great review! honest unbiased and to the point! you cant imagine how many sponsored vids ive seen that state this is the second coming of christ. went with a fern by hayworth
PU with minimal stripout after 2 year use in particular places for an every-day rough user? that's not less than expected and shows how good the quallity is.... Indeed I preefer the fabbric chair, happy that I bought it... but since you, as you say, have not done any maintenance, that is one hell of quallity chair
I bought the chair 5 minutes after seeing your video... Your 2 year condition chair convinced me it was a good investment specially for the home office days still ahead (I'm in italy, most likely will keep HO till the end of the year)... I was looking for "cheap gaming chairs" and decided to raise the level, considering the long hours a day using it... I bought the fabric omega, might have gone for the Titan, but I think Omega suits me, did not paid attention to the lombar adjustment that only Titan have, in any case there's the lombar cushion... In any case, in general i like how PU looks, but it is a bit slippery and doesn't breath (makes me sweat XD) even leather in some cases is not awesome for long periods of skin contact... Not saying sitting butt naked on it, but just some leg or arm contact in summer days.... The chair should arrive next Monday, I than can share my opinion with you if you like...
Before I got a gaming chair my set up was my bed, a wall, and a pillow for back support. And if I got lucky I got to use a lawn chair. I always felt uncomfortable and I was constantly adjusting the pillow cause it was compressing under me but it worked. Luckily for me my dad saw this and felt bad that I sitting up against the wall(I know, first world problems) and got me a chair, now this was the only gift I got from since this chair was over a $250 dollars last I checked. The rest of birthday was my mom and grandpa giving a hundred dollars each nothing else. The chair is a respawn 110 model, it’s a really awesome and comfortable chair that I use every time I sit to play games. The leather is really nice and yes it can do that thing(pewd fans will know) the back support is immensely great and the neck/headrest is great. The leg rest is very convenient and I didn't even know I wanted one. Overall, it doesn't do anything to improve your gameplay but it's definitely better than a office or lawn chair.
My Titan is supposed to be delivered in July. After seeing several people talk about the breathability of the PU, I decided to pay a little extra for the softweave. Thanks for the long term review. Makes me feel better about spending so much on a chair.
Believe it or not I have purchased this chair for work. My job has me in front of a computer for about 8-10 hours a day four days a week. So hopefully this does the trick
I don’t know but when I tried a secret lab chair it was a bit disappointing in my opinion everyone tells it’s very luxurious and very good but when I sat on one it was very hard like i felt alsmost I was sitting on a plank with cushions on top of planks my father also tried it who has more backpains so it is very important for him that chairs are a bit soft and keeps his back well and boy o boy he hated it but still nice review non the less
I had a Titan as well, seams busted and it fell apart within 3 months. Customer service refused to Warranty it, stating it was wear and tear(It was on the back of the seat where contact is never made). Worst customer service I have ever experienced in my life. Chair was never comfortable to begin with, being too firm at first then too soft once broken in. I made the switch to Vertagear's largest chair, and its a little better too. I want to go back to a traditional chair, but I need to customization of armrest positions to deal with my major shoulder issues unfortunately.
Damn, that sounds like a terrible experience. I haven’t experienced any of this thankfully. I wish I had another chair to recommend to you, but my experience is limited when it comes to the different chairs I’ve tried. I can recommend my shoulder stretch video if you haven’t already tried it. Might help with some of your shoulder issues.
My brother owns a secret lab omega chair and when I first tried it I thought that it was the best chair I’ve ever sat in, for Christmas I got a red/black res pawn chair for about 7 months and I have a bit of back pain when I play video games to the point where I have to put a pillow from my bed to my chair. I can’t upgrade to a secret lab chair due to the price of it but after a bit with the res pawn chair and saving up money I’ll be able to get it.
I also have a 2 year old PU version but the leather has been completely striped away until the white cloth below has been completely exposed. I use it almost on a daily basis. Secret Lab has a program where you can pay just for the leather cover replacement which i have opted for.
Have this gaming chair, lasted slightly after two years before the leather starts wearing off probably from the hotter climate i am live. Once it starts cracking, it just doesn’t stops. They offered me a replacement of the back rest and seat base for $$$ though... the new leather felt so much comfier than the older before 2018 series.
I've owned the Titan for almost a year now and have to say it's an amazing chair. It has held up perfectly, I don't have the sweat issue that he has stated, though I have sat in my chair NAKED a few times ( comfy not gonna lie don't judge ) it does put some damage on the leather after a few times. Other than that I've never felt uncomfortable and it looks amazing ( 2020 variant ). I will never buy another chair. Secret Lab has earned my money as long as the quality remains as is.
Got a titan one year later the pleather or whatever it is is peeling, the locking mechanism that stops you from rocking is broken and the armrests have cracked on the sides. So in my experience with it I should have saved money an bought a better quality chair. No I didn't abuse it before anyone asks, I just sat in it to play games. But with everything there is always outliers and mine just might be that outlier, but I won't be be buying another to replace it.
First of thank you for your service with the Army, great video! I think I'm going to go with the Titan soft weave and subdued logos as much as possible. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video have an awesome day!
There is a SoftWeave fabric that was introduced. Not sure when that came out but it makes it more breathable especially if you run hot or don't have A/C.
Mr Sisig i cant tell if this comments like a joke lol. but anyways my previous chair was some trashy ikea chair that only reached up to half my back and it was super tall so i had to slouch down so bad to be able to play as good as i can and that destroyed my lower back. but with this secret labs chair the pillow it comes with is fantastic lumbar support and the one for my neck allows me to comfortably sit up straight with a nice poster. that’s not all that’s good with the chair, that’s just what made my back pain go away. this is by far the mos comfortable chair i’ve ever sat in
I bought a $300 office chair that had everything I needed. EXCEPT TILT, and that tilted me. I haven’t bought this yet, but I’ve watched many reviews of 6 months to 2 years old chairs and this is matching what I need. As a guy that’s 250 lb, 6’1, this chair already fits my needs.
I absolutely think this is the chair to get for someone your size. I'm 210 and 5'11" and I've tried other chairs that end up feeling too small. I think the support it offers for bigger dudes and dudettes is the selling point. If you do decide to get one, I've got an affiliate link in the video description!
I think the soft weave is a better choice as for reliability and breathability, I personally can not handle my $400 chair start to peel after just 2 years, i am just to cheap that way...lol. I think spend a little more to get Herman Miller or steelcase as they have 10 to 12 years warranty may make more sense in the long run.
Good video, nice to hear it helped your back. What do you think is better for your back, the new pu2 leather or the softer fabric? Looking to help some back pain as well.
Good video with one valid con that is that it doesn’t breath. The other two were an opinion. The design might bother you but I think it looks kinda cool. The last one just sounds petty, the chair has a pillow incase you want it. It’s an accessories like pillows on a couch. It sounds like you are trying to make an excuse
My reviews will always have some of my personal opinions and experiences, as do most reviews. I feel like I make it obvious when something is subjective but maybe I should make it more obvious.
Yo, I also had this chair for 2 years. I got the all black PU version back in sept 2018. My room is always dark and usually cool. I don't really sweat much even on this chair. My leather has held up rather nicely over the years, only a few wrinkles here and there. I saw some peeling on this guy's chair, and knew what happened when he said that room didn't have AC. Don't get pu leather if your going to sit in such an environment as this was also a problem in a lot of south east asia places. I just triple checked my chair, there is no tearing leather like yours, and a good chunk of my free time is spent on this chair. My one complaint would be the older model's armrests being wobbly af from the plastic parts over time, but it seems as if they fixed that in the 2020 series. Another small complaint was that my bony butt felt slightly uncomfortable at the way back of the chair due to less foam on that side, and I offset this with some back pillows. That really is more of the nit picky things though, overall I'd say it does justify the $399 price, however, it's not packing any further value. If this was $499 i'd say not worth but it's priced pretty good for what the overall experience has been for me. No pains from sitting so much over the years unlike my previous el cheapo chair (couldn't sit longer than 30 min before pain).
8:15 Not to go into detail, but the reason they had to mention that stuff was due to people who use these chairs while streaming on adult oriented streaming sites where there may be more skin and liquid contact with the chair. I feel gross typing that, but now you know
I have had my Titan for a week now and never have I ever had so much back pain. My lower back and hips are destroyed from this chair :( Had a DxRacer prior and never had these problems, biggest regret yet was buying a Titan
I have the Omega. Definitely the most comfortable I've used personally, but I've never spent a lot of money on chairs. My only issue is the chair is only about two years old and there's tearing in the arm rest already, both arms. I wouldn't say I abuse or mishandle the chair either.
They just so happen to sell replacements. lol DId you use it daily? How many hours a day? Be honest please. I need to find someone who has spent the money on a high end chair that has actually put their ass in it 8 hours a day for a year or so
I have the 2020 titan and the chair is okay. It is a hard/stiff chair so imo not comfortable for sitting in for durations more than a couple of hours at a time (This is the total opposite of what the chair is supposedly designed for). I have found that the alignment of the backrest and base is questionable at best. The armrests when adjusted to the exact same position do not line up with the backrest of the chair. One is touching the backrest and the other is about an inch away. I do like the head cushion and the packaging of the chair when it came was good. The instructions were easy to follow for assembly. Overall, is it worth the price? I would say no and I probably wouldn't buy another one in the future. I haven't really considered the return process since it sounds like an absolute headache judging on other people's experiences.
6' -77kg The sales of Secret-Lab support service is so slow but very nice, I think it's because of the overwhelming sales, in 5 years they generated over 300 millions of sales. I've ordered the Titan Soft Weave, delivery is minimum 1 month. The big problem whit all chairs is that you can't try them before buying them and returns are a pain in the......! That's why wen you buy a Omega and should of bought a Titan or a Titan XL you are not satisfied. Thanks for your review.
some things you should know before ordering. You have to pay for return shipping, and disassembly requires a pipe wrench and a rubber mallet. They don't tell you the actual dimensions of any of the stuff needed. The pipe wrench needs to be large enough to get enough torque to remove the piston from the seatbase, but you need to have one with narrow jaws or they wont fit in the narrow space available to grip it. I now own 2 pipe wrenches I don't need. It's kind of a pain in the ass. Also, I'm 6'3", 230ish lbs and the placement chosen for the lumbar support makes absolutely no sense for the body dimensions of anyone tall. The lumbar support is located far too low, too close to where the seat and back connect, pushing against where the sacrum would be instead of the lumbar area. I promise you that nobody over 6'0 has a lumbar area of their back so close to their tailbone. The design decision not to allow for vertical adjustment of the lumbar support makes even less sense in this respect. There's other chairs in the same form factor at the same price point that at the very least pay for return shipping. Regret not just buying a steelcase or aeron on the secondary market.
Thanks for sharing. I know I recently spoke to someone in my Discord who was able to return their chair for $75 through SL. It sucks to have to pay anything at all since it's so hard to shop for a chair online, but with a lot of chair companies I'm seeing this trend. I don't have any experience with the Steelcase but I will say that I seriously doubt an Aeron would feel good for a tall person. I personally hate that chair so much. The lumbar support feels like a brick in my back. Either way, I hope you find something that works for you and I appreciate the extra insight on disassembly as it's something I haven't had to do yet.
they make a breathable material now Ive had mine for about an year and half and no swamp ass lol!! but my pillow did the same thing on the back no big deal but the memory foam pillow is very very comfortable
This is actually helped a little thabks for the review! All up between working and gaming I sit in my cheap ikea chair for around 10 hrs a day. Due to a motorcycle accident I already have a notoriously horrible back, but my current chair jist puts my back in pieces. Very much on the ropes whether I want to spend 650 Australian Dollars on the secretlab chair or not and reviews like yours definitely helped!
I’m glad I could help! Sorry to hear about your back but you may find some helpful tips in my back stretch video. It’s the first video on my channel if ya haven’t checked it out yet.
I'm late to the party, but you being a PTT like me gets you a like on your video. You making a video about stretches to relieve back pain IN THE CHAIR, gets you a sub! Amazing work!
I have the GT Omega Pro, with no built in lumbar support. It uses a pleather covered cushion for the lower back. The beauty of it is that it can be moved about. No idea why but sometimes I want it lower and sometimes higher. Like the headrest cushion though, we are built differently so cushions can be moved. Built in lumbar can't be moved up and down, but it can be moved in and out. Whereas the GT Omega chair's pad, is always the same depth.
I bought a chair 6 years ago from a company for 120$ and I LOVED IT I recently bought a replacement for 140$ from the same company, and I thought it was the same quality. Oopsy! I immediately hated the new chair, and wish the arm rests on my old one didn't break and fall apart. Dang...
I've got the same chair and where i sit, behind my knees has peeled and the same spots as your chair too and I never cross or tuck my legs either. It's the PU leather itself. The new stuff is meant to be far harder wearing supposedly and that's why they implemented it. I'm actually chasing us a reupholsterer up at the moment as the bum part has separated from the inner foam (In part thanks to my cat and his bloody claws) with some cat scratch peeling. I've also ordered some self adhesive PU leather from Amazon (for cheap) to stick ontop of the bum part if the upholsterer is too expensive. The base costs $136.40 AUD from secret labs as well with the new material. And that's the best part about these chairs, you can get stuff fixed and it won't cost you an arm and a leg to do so!! I love my Titan and I especially love the stitching and branding all over it compared to yourself. I think most of us do but personal preference as you said. I'll update with the outcome of which ever 3 ways I went to repair the base (bum part). Maybe this can also be a solution for other owners of our model and be a cheap and high quality fix for them as well moving forward!
Thanks for letting me know about your process to get the chair back in to shape. I like that you’re not just chucking it, and looking for ways to repair what is obviously a well made piece of furniture. Good on you, and definitely let me know how it comes out.
@@FracnoTV upon closer inspection (after getting the new PU leather the base (bum part) has lifted off the inner foam, so it looks like a apoulsterer is my next port of call now. Once again I'll give you an update in how that goes next.
You won't be loving it in a few months when you realise these chairs are overpriced junk, had mine 8 months and it's falling apart, going through a warranty claim right now.
Leather on chairs unfortunately lasts around 4-5 years before peeling excesively. After 2 years this looks ok but I believe next 2 years will show you that this will peel a lot. After gaming sessions you will see it under your chair :(. It's nothing that manufacturer can do I believe - this is just the leather thing. Had the same with similar chair. Had to replace it after 5 years because it looked like naked without the leather/skin :(.
Watching this on my Aluminum folding chair💀
Same 🥴
Get a secret lab you won’t regret it
My setup used to be my bed with cardboard box on it as a desk for my laptop, and a 5 gallon bucket. I feel ya
@@lukej9906 whatever it takes right lol
Yeahh but my ass says different
Investing in a good chair is the best thing you can buy nowdays. People keep a desk chair for 3-4-5 years. Which means a lot of sitting in that chair. Spending 300-500$ on a better chair will make you avoid some hospital bill for your back down the road.
I just bought the cloth Titan, but I was using a $200+ Costco office chair for like the past 8 years, lol. I am so far extremely happy with upgrading my chair after like 15 minutes of total sit time lol.
Im using a 80€ chair by IKEA for the last 8 years and I can tell that the first like 6 years i never had any back problems, but especially the last year my back hurts a lot when Im sitting in this chair.
After many videos and hourhs of seaching for a new chair I finally decided which chair i wanted and now i have to wait till the 28th of october till my titan chair will arrive :'(
Or more like 14 years, looks at old beaten down Staples chair.
Just stretch and crack your bones regularly and it doesnt get that bad. I always crack my spines in place after a long sitting.
Well then get a real ergonomic chair or so
watching this on a stool
Padded or hard?
Loool
Ravioli as in a chair or a poo?
That's very funny lolll
shoot, I have a piece of 2x12 and some concrete blocks
As a fat guy, the titan has been amazing. I’m not worried about if the chair will break like I was with cheap office chairs. The little neck pillow is a must, and the lumbar support is very uncomfortable for me. I went with the all black leather and it does breath, I don’t get sweaty. And now that I’m working from home, it was definitely a great investment. 9/10 donuts.
wait a year or two until it starts peeling lol...
@@kompakt4198 I didn’t get the pealing, but the pivot point wore out, so I emailed them and they sent me a whole new arm.
The lumbar support is very UNcomfortable and you recommend it? O_o
@@Elianae yeah I don’t use the lubar support thing, I bought the pillow they sell instead. But do whatever you want.
Yeah man idk, i have a normal (read: cheap) gaming chair and i love the lumbar support it has, however my ass hurts cause i sit most of the day and it IS breaking fast af, so i wonder if i should drop this kinda cash on the titan :
Thanks mate, i could say this was very most honest review bout this chair, though i got myself another “gaming chair” but i couldnt agree more with your views... not many honest review outside regarding to this chair, but i could say this is one of the few worth watching!
Totally agree. First decent review.
I have this chair and not only is the customer service outstanding but the chair for me a year and a half later, looks just like how I bought it. This chair is perfect. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat
I am excited to get mine. It comes in 23 more days. I ordered the titan one.
@@AznEricTV thats the one I got man ! Its amazing I got it yesrs ago and it looks exactly the same. It will last forever
@@tonechaser7174 Yeah I am excited for it. I hope I can sit on it for 2 hours. Without feeling sore. lol
@@AznEricTV ya its not squishy so it gives u support. After some times playing I sit in different positions that helps for long sessions.
Are u using pu leather or softweave? If u r using the pu leather one, may I know did the leather peel after a year?
Been sitting in this kitchen chair for about a year now... it's bout time i get me one of these!
Treat yo ass.
Ive been sitting on the Aluminum folding chair😂💀
@@abramlionel4990 Bro this chair is fire! I did have my gripes with it at first. like the seat at the edge was a little too firm and my legs were a little uncomfortable. But fast forward a few weeks and that bitch get mega comfy.
This is the most honest review i have ever watch on these chairs. Everybody else got it for free n try it for a few days and you sir, deserve more views n subs!! subbed
Thx brother in Arms! Disabled Vet here, Navy. I will check out the review for the fabric version. Too bad the VA wont help me with this purchase, they broke my back but are like, CYA!
Thanks for your service. I hope all goes well.
Sounds about right...unfortunately. I've had a pretty good experience when going to the VA for emergency. I had emergency had surgery, and they treated me really well. You might try transfer to another VA hospital.
Nice Review! For new buyers it’s important to know that the 2020 version upgrade is really _huge_ in quality, especially in case of the PU leather, arm rests/metal parts, foam pillar, aso. Though I would recommend the Softweave version, itˋs much more pleasent under hot _and_ under cold conditions. In addition it simply has more „grip“.
Damn, I wish I had that soft weave version. 😭
I've been seeing alot of people saying that the softweave version is better but I like the cloud 9 logo on the chair
I've had the softweave version for a year and a half and it's been really good. I'm a skinny tall guy so I went with the titan and I've never felt it was too firm for me even though that's what I complain the most about any other regular chair. This summer was one of the hottest and only at certain times would I feel like I was sweating a little too much and would take a quick break. The material seems the same as the day I got it. I believe it depends on how well you take care of it. There's no tears or anything. My biggest complaint would have to be the armrest where they can feel a bit flimsy but I believe the 2020 version fixed that issue.
Just bought one, a Titan XL. Nobody told me that sweat and skin contact is bad for the PU leather chair. Until I read the maintenance sheet that came with the package... Well, there is a simple solution. Cover the chair with a wool plaid or a cotton sheet. That will allow for breathing in the contact area. Remove it when not in use and wipe the chair dry if necessary. Had it less than a day so I can't really say what I think about it. Except that my chronic back pain has eased considerably just in the short time I have had this chair. The firmness of the seat is a bit on the hard side but since I weigh in on 280 lbs it might be a good thing in the long run.
I brought the secret lab chair last year and I got the clothe version. The chair breathes and feel so comfortable.
How is it now?
This is the ONE UA-camr that I can listen to even if he talks straight at the camera!!!
Great job, that's one more subscriber.
Just got myn last week, Its changed my whole life I love it so much
How can a chair change your whole life? 😄
@@akarna69 😂😂😂 the chair gives you +400 fbs
Nice review, I was interested in getting this with the fabric finish, but now I'm eyeing the Ergo chair 2, would like to see a video of that after a couple of years, but in the meantime keep them coming
I own an Omega with the Fabric and love it. It is breathable, doesn't seem to stain easy, low maintenance, actually none over the last year and a half.
I bought the MyoChair and returned it - willing to bet the ErgoChair 2 has similar issues given the overall shape. If you're looking for something that'll keep your back straight and upright, the ErgoChair won't do it. The lumbar support is really nice, but there is no upper back support. I found it worked better with a desk that had a keyboard tray, but I don't regularly use one, so it definitely wasn't for me. The angle it forced me to look at when leaning back in it was too high vs. where my monitor was. Just some fair warning - they have 30 and 15 day trials in the US and Canada respectively. Keep your original box or otherwise you can't refund it.
@@andrewchiappetta1262 So what did you get
@@davidl5852 How's the quality now?
Got the omega and I'm 6'5 and it works very well size wise. I wish the head had a small indent on both sides though for the straps on the pillow. Very comfy.
That's good to know! Without being a weirdo, mind if I ask how much you weigh? People comment all the time asking if X size is good for an Omega. I always default to the Titan if they''re 6' and up.
Im wondering the same im stuck cuz my height is omega but weight is titan but the sides on omega seem to not give enough to spread ur legs as one wld want cuz the curve restricts you but the titan doesnt have that problem as much but the lumbar support is pff for shorter ppl how much do u weight?
I just made the dive and picked up a 2020 Titan with the "SoftWeave" cloth. I do not regret it at all. Very glad I went with the cloth and I think it would fix your sweating problem if you could go back and change which chair you have now. It definitely supports me better than any chair I have had previously. I'm short for the Titan but I weigh too much for the Omega and it works out well.
I actually really like the head pillow, it's very comfortable and being able to move it around helps a lot. I kind of wish the Titan came with a lumbar pillow. I couldn't get the adjustable lumbar support to work well for me so I'm using a pillow. Will probably get a nice looking memory foam one sometime, but right now it's the same one I was using in my old ratty chair...
Glad I'm not the only one who sits in odd positions in their chair. :)
Do you got any static discharges? I hear alot about ppl using the softweave that they get zapped after touching metal things when sitting in this chair.
@@Mr.Reality None here, but I live in the swampy US south where that's not much of an issue ever! Maybe in drier climates it could be a problem.
I'm not going to lie your reviews are actually helpful unlike most on the platform
Thank you! What makes them different? Knowing what you guys like helps me continue hitting those points in the future.
I've very happy with my Titan SoftWeave Fabric chair. It arrived last month, and have been using it daily for work at home, and gaming at night. It's a very heavy chair. It also feels super sturdy. It's surprisingly stiff. I went with the Softweave for a couple of reasons. First, my last 3 chairs were made with that fake leather material. It feels and looks nice at first. But that lasts only a few years. But it will eventually peel in these tiny fragments. Second, my cats liked clawing and peeling off the fake leather fragments in tiny bits at a time. Think of it like a thick vinyl coating, that when you peel off you have this intact naked cushion. You can still sit on it, but it looks terrible. So far my cats don't seem to be that interested in this Softweave chair. They act the same towards our fabric couch in the living room.
It took me about 20 minutes to assemble the chair myself. All the tools you need are included. Although I had a minor issue that the left side of the chair does not look like the left side pictured in the 1 page instuctions, nor the video. "Why does it look different? Is it missing a bracket?", were my initial thoughts. I emailed their tech support, with pictures and got a response within 12 hours that all was normal. They just need to update their video and 1 page to show the correct left side of the chair. I guess that part of the design got updated recently.
That said, I'm still super happy with this purchase. My 2 gripes are; 1 it is expensive. And, 2 the logo and lettering on the chair is a bit tacky. But you get what you pay for. And I can live with the logo and lettering. Glad to hear your chair is still holding up after 2 years.
I love my Titan and the lumber support is on point - the little neck cushion does the job and really comfortable - all the adjustment options are appreciated. I prefer the firmness as there is no give like a ever declining cushion over time. Also its built like a tank. Very Durable.
Due to my weight the cushion on the seat is always a problem because in a few months all the foam or watherver it is inside is not holding well, would you say this Titan chairs do a good job in the long time with the cushion on the seat?
I had the omega. I bought it when I gamed casually but when I started coding and sitting in a chair 8-12 hours a day my neck and back started hurting like crazy. I spent the money on a Herman Miller embody and my body thanks me so much. It’s a night and day difference.
I have an Omega, and the wear and tear is definitely a con on the PU Leather. However, upgrading to the the "Napa Leather" might be a very valid option, as the wear and tear is the only thing I have had wrong with it.
I unboxed my own SecretLab chair today!! I bought the Titan Evo 2022 size small and it's really nice and comfortable! It's just that my feet can't still fully reach the floor even on the chair's lowest height.
I’d definitely recommend a comfy foot rest then. Not the most ideal solution but better than nothing!
Huge props for waiting so long to review the product too, so many people would review immediately with no real experience of the long term impact
Thanks! Just don't judge me if I don't wait 2 years before I review the next one, haha.
It appears Secretlabs has a lot of reviewers on their payroll because other than this honest video every other one I've watched was more of an infomercial then a review. Thanks. Good job.
I think it's people with buyers remorse. Trying to justify spending that much on a GAMING CHAIR
the text in this review is so similar to other 5-6 videos I watched on UA-cam, so this one seems paid or at least following a script by them too
This video isnt honest at all. If u look in the description you'll find hes sponsored by them. He posted his link as everything... This guy will sell your back for his profits buy an office chair second hand steelcases/herman miller/and many others will cost you the same as the 500 secret lab.
Ive had this chair for 2 years and its awesome. I also have fell asleep in it plenty of times and it has actually helped with my back pain. I don't have the leather version, which i'm very thankful for. Best chair I have ever owned. It is quite firm, but it feels the exact same as the day I bought it.
U got that softweave material? Do u think it s better than the pu leather?
@@denypopovici8150 definitely. The chair is always cool. This is my first non leather chair and its been great. If you have any animals just cover it up when you are not using it.
Eric Tysinger thank you, i m just movin to uni, so i dont have pets anymore. Although, i m very concerned w some reviews saying that this chair is hard as a rock :( Can u tell me smth about it?
@@denypopovici8150 it is firm but personally I haven't had any aches from long gaming sessions. The chair gets just a tiny bit softer after a while. I'd definitely say the firmness helps you over time. Especially if you have back pain
somebody said the fabric chairs start to smell after a while? is that the case? lol
Nice, I've lucked out 3 times in a row with chairs. I'm happy and still sitting 3 years strong.
I'm from Singapore. I have mine in 2017 as a birthday gift. It's start peeling in 2018 after a year and a half of usage. As mine was from 2017, the warranty does not cover peeling compared to those after 2018. It cost around SGD$600-700 for my Omega version. I'm still using it, but black spots are everywhere on my floor due to the rolling of the wheels of the chair over the peelings on the floor. It's a mess, but it's too expensive to throw it away. T-T I use it shirtless but i covered/protected it with a shirt. It just dun help due to the humility of my environment.
Discovered your channel yesterday and I cannot believe you don't have a million sub. Top notch quality and super interesting. Also your voice is so calm. I'm really happy to sub and support your channel :)
very nice review. Honest and realistic. just bought the Omega version because of you. Thanks dude!😁
This is the most useful channel of any gaming channel ever. Love it
straight into the intro after a brief summary of the topic...and then straight into the main topic. great video
I bought this Titan PU leather chair for my son who is 6’ 4” and 175lbs. He spends a lot of time in this chair. Within a year we had to discard the chair. Within 2 months the arm rest started to crack and plastic break off. We contacted Secret Labs and they replaced the arm rest. Unfortunately, the same problem happened with the replacement and also happened on the other side. The seat cushion also collapsed so it felt like you were sitting on a bar. We helped with this by putting a board between the cushion and bar. The swivel started to lean to on side. In the end I thought I bought a quality chair and it didn’t last as long as a cheap chair.
That’s very strange to me as I’m heavier and what you see in this video is my chair after 2 years.
came here for chair info obviously, but i just wanted to say that you seem like a very nice and genuine person, even in the tone of your voice and way of speech i can tell dude, thank you :)
What a kind comment. Thank you!
I got the Secret Labs Titan XL 2020 Edition in the new Soft Weave fabric. While the build quality is superb and it got so many features and settings this is still maybe the worst purchase i've done in years. Not being soft like a couch is an understatement. The chair is so hard I get pain after 2 hours in this chair, I also got some problem with blood flow to my legs if I sit leaned back for any longer period of time since the seat is that far out so it makes a pressure against the underside of my thighs. I did also find the lumbard support being useless since all that it does is putting a hard spot against my back while leaving my lumbard without any support at all. Tried my 3 years old IKEA Markus after been using this chair for 2 weeks and I somehow sit way more comfortable in that. I believe this chair depends alot on your body and height, but it is really stiff! Just wanted to point this information out since I see alot comments about how stiff it is, but all the reviews never complains more then mention it's abit stiff.
i am 260 lbs, so firm is what i want.
@@louiscyfer6944 I am of same weight as You, but I ended up getting a normal sized Titan NAPA and now it's like heaven ;)
@@laggmonstret i just ordered the xl. i am 260lbs at 7% bodyfat though, and have very broad shoulders. i need the room.
Nice honest review, I like the back pain stretch video alot aswell! Thanks for that, it has really improved my daily living having some stretches to do that help me.
i like your comment about gaming not needing a dedicated chair. thats why i bought a herman miller off of ebay and fixed the problems it had over time. worth it, and of course cheaper than a brand new one
I almost got one, I decided on the evo for the 139 degree recline
I’ve been eyeing this chair for a while now and seeing all of your compiles experiences in this video was very helpful because I have been looking for a long time durability test on this chair. Thank you for the info.
I got my Secret Lab Titan XL last week, Wednesday, I have not had it a week yet and I 100% love it. I watched your video because you are a bigger guy like me, no offense. But that played a huge role( no pun intended )in my decision. The chair I had was somewhat comfortable, I had to buy all the extra pillows lumbar, head etc, but I still felt very sore after sitting in it for my 10 hour shift.
I felt like I was in a fight, achy and sore. Since getting this Titan, I still have soreness but nowhere near the amount as before. 10-14 hours a day behind a desk and pc is a long time to be sitting I don’t care who you are.
It is worth every cent in my opinion, it’s not been a week yet I know, but the chair really is fantastic. It is firm but that is actually welcome. I have the leather and I am fine with it, I don’t really notice the sweating like was mentioned, my office is air conditioned, but not well, I have two fans so maybe that’s why.
I will probably buy one for my wife as well, she works long hours also. Thanks for the video, it made the decision easy for me. I appreciate your time.
Glad to help! Happy you’re enjoying the chair.
@@FracnoTV do you still use it and is it still good?
Some insight into PU leather. All PU Leather eventually peels. Its the nature of the material. I have had three PU Leather chairs, from three different manufacturers (Not secret lab), and all have inevitably started peeling. The average time til the peeling starts is about three years. After the third chair I swore off PU Leather forever and decided to go fabric. The fact that your chair started peeling after two years is not a good sign. This is most likely due to the sweating and hot/humid environment. Both of which can expedite the peeling process. I'm sorry to say that its going to get worst over time. Just for some context, my first desk chair that i ever bought (i currently use as a back up chair), which is fabric, looks as good today as the day i bought it. That chair is 27 years old. To replace my last PU Leather chair, I also went with the Secret lab titan, but went with the soft weave. Awesome chair. When you replace your chair, and i'm sorry to say that you will be replacing it, go with the soft weave. Its comfortable , its breathable and you won't be replacing it in three years. Hope this helps.
I decided to pre-order the NAPA version of the Titan, as they claim it would be a breathable kind of leather; hugely expensive, but hey... only have one back and we've been doing home-working for months now. I really hope the NAPA will be 'best of both worlds', otherwise it'll be a very expensive mistake :(
Joeri De Strijker
If you don’t like it or just think it isn’t worth that money, the fabric one is very comfortable and doesn’t peel as Pu leather it’s very durable and has great features and base material
@@outplayed458 I actually absolutely hope I WILL like the NAPA chair... would be most disappointed otherwise! The Soft Weave would have been second choice as the PU would probably peel off very quickly
Joeri De Strijcker I hope for you that you like it
But does normal leather not peel?
Good review, and informative. Thanks for adding the humour, I needed that. I’m still smiling🙂
Thanks! There’s an update to the video with the new version of the SoftWeave.
Just got my Titan 2020 😁, thx for the review! Watched this video over a year ago and finally got my Titan and yes I amd thankful.
I love how every comment is someone saying they love their titan chair, I own one and mine is so uncomfortable and hurts my back. It’s just very suspicious that every review on UA-cam of this chair, every top comment talks about how they love their chair
I just bought a used one for 85$, it feels brand new I can't believe it. Didn't come with the neck pillow but I can always replace that.
I'm 170cm 67kg and have one in cloth. This chair is really good for my back, I have space to wiggle and during summers in my easy 30+C room I have no issues. Would recommend cloth chairs to anyone since I bought this, nothing broke sofar, everything looks like day one and its been over a year. I sit in it every day for 8 hours +..
I've been recommending them to everyone that brought up looking for a new chair and will continue doing so. Some of my best spend money on a purchase on any product ever. Thats just how I feel about my secretlabs.
And as a sidenote, the packaging it was send in was verry solid, everything was really bubbled in really well, foamsheets covering fabric etc. I felt like I really made some really high premium purchase, and to this date the chair has lived up to that initial feeling.
But thats ofc my experience and my feeling about it.
I did a review on the cloth version recently! Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/em7k7xjlbnQ/v-deo.html
Looking to get this one in soft fabric👍 I have a back injury (prolapse) so I think this would be a great chair for me.
MrThebaarsjes I’m going to guess that if he/she is buying this chair they don’t have the money for an Aeron.
@@AlexLikesFloors Quite right sir👍😆
I bought a secretlabs chair an that thing destroyed my back. Sold it an bought a Steelcase leap V2. So far so good.
Yes steelcase leap is very good, although I have used mine lightly for a day.
I came from a non branded chair that destroyed my back.
@@TheLegend-ic8wr My chair started making a popping noise after 3 months. Im 5 foot 6 and 165ibs. Omega 2020
Owned my Secret Lab Omega for over a year and a half. Really great, no issues. Mine is the fabric and I highly recommend it and do in fact find it very breathable.
I just got a Titan yesterday - I chose it in part because I have GERD and sometimes I get up in the middle of the night because of reflux and if I can't sleep in a semi-elevated position I won't get any sleep. So it was nice to find a chair that I can sleep in if I need to.
ty been considering the same model in the dark night version now im convinced that it's worth the money
7:45 I'll probably drape a towel over the back like I've done with the Turcotte from Staples that the Titan I should be getting in tomorrow is replacing.
10:18 At least my dogs should know better than to jump onto it, especially my oldest. Although the Turcotte mentioned above broke at the arms, first left, then had to break off the other just to get it through the narrow path of my bedroom doorway and now he's using what's left of the seat portion.
PU leather / faux leather (fake leather) is known to degrade over time with skin contact and in humid conditions generally. If you want to reduce the risk of that happening over time, avoid skin contact where possible. Or just buy the softweave version of SecretLab's newest Titan (Evo 2022) model.
You will have to be more careful to guard against spills and stains with the softweave material, and it should also be noted that the softweave editions of SecretLab's Titan chairs have suede accents in a lot of cases, which definitely do not react well to fluids. You can however offset this with some suede waterproofing spray made for shoes (ask the missus!). The softweave fabric will almost certainly last longer than PU, and if pilling develops, a quick run-over with an electric fabric razor (like the Remington Fuzz-Away) will solve that in no short order.
There is a reason the PU version is the cheapest model to buy. It's because it's the cheapest to make, and is the cheapest in quality of the range as a whole. None of them are 'cheap', per-se, but pay the extra and get the softweave one over the PU one if in 5 years you don't want to have to be buying a new one (yet again). And if you absolutely MUST have leather, well save your pennies and pay for the NAPA leather model. That one is proper natural leather (AFAIK), and will last a lot longer than the PU one, you'll just have to offer up an arm or a leg, or maybe a kidney to buy it, lol.
I also have felines and they don't scratch my gaming chair for the following reason(s):
A) I have a thick bedsheet (not blanket), but bedsheet that drape over the chair to prevent dirt and body sweat from permeating into the fabric. Plus, it serves as a buffer in case one of my felines does decide to put up a paw on the chair.
B) I get two or three scratching posts and a five foot length cat tree inside my room to keep my kitties occupied and thus, something else to scratch their paws on.
Applying A) & B) solutions as stated above has resulted in no scratches from my felines. I also scoot them away from laying down on the chair as I want to define clear boundaries where they are allowed and where they are not allowed. Felines scratch things as a normal relaxing part of their routine and thus I discourage them getting comfortable around my gaming chair (& computer, for that matter),
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Secret labs: makes chair.
Also secret labs: don't sit on chair.
I have the Titan 2020 (charcoal blue soft weave) and enjoy it a lot. Two years old and still looks great. Only bummer is that it is a dust magnet and have to vacuum it a lot but no biggie. The lumbar support adjustment is great for my back. Very pleased with it.
I would honestly love a video showing all the workouts you could do with a heavy gaming chair, and maybe lighter ones with some other gaming equipment for length?
I don't think the flaking is your fault. It's just part of the territory that comes with faux leather chairs. Mine is faux leather too and it flaked after a couple years of ownership. No matter how much you baby it, you can't avoid the fact that you're putting 100-200lbs of pressure on the surface and moving around. Even if you had saved the edges from flaking, the center of the seat will eventually start flaking. You have that to look forward to in year 3.
As for your room temp issue, have you tried a box fan in the window? The fan would be loud enough to keep people outside from hearing you, and I reckon RTX Voice could remove the noise pretty well from your voice audio, if you've got one of the RTX cards. Just my two cents.
Yea I’ve come to the conclusion that PU leather just isn’t for me. I’ve made a follow up review video on the newer model SoftWeave Titan and it’s so much better. Check that video out.
The heat isn’t nearly as bad anymore now that the temps are cooling down. It’s quite comfortable these days. I had a fan in the room before and the windows open, and it helped a bit but it’s still warm. I’ve tried RTX Voice with my 1080 Ti but didn’t like it. In the new year I plan on building a new PC which will not only have a 3080, but I’m hoping it will run cooler as well.
Thanks so much for the support, comments, and suggestions!
great review! honest unbiased and to the point! you cant imagine how many sponsored vids ive seen that state this is the second coming of christ. went with a fern by hayworth
Straight up review, professionally edited and I enjoyed the subtle humour. Great vid bud thanks for the review.
PU with minimal stripout after 2 year use in particular places for an every-day rough user? that's not less than expected and shows how good the quallity is.... Indeed I preefer the fabbric chair, happy that I bought it...
but since you, as you say, have not done any maintenance, that is one hell of quallity chair
Finally someone who gets it. What a breath of fresh air. Sir, do you mind sharing some of your common sense and rationality with the class?
I bought the chair 5 minutes after seeing your video... Your 2 year condition chair convinced me it was a good investment specially for the home office days still ahead (I'm in italy, most likely will keep HO till the end of the year)... I was looking for "cheap gaming chairs" and decided to raise the level, considering the long hours a day using it... I bought the fabric omega, might have gone for the Titan, but I think Omega suits me, did not paid attention to the lombar adjustment that only Titan have, in any case there's the lombar cushion... In any case, in general i like how PU looks, but it is a bit slippery and doesn't breath (makes me sweat XD) even leather in some cases is not awesome for long periods of skin contact... Not saying sitting butt naked on it, but just some leg or arm contact in summer days....
The chair should arrive next Monday, I than can share my opinion with you if you like...
I would love to hear your thoughts. The lumbar cushion in the omega is the best lumbar cushion I’ve tried in any chair.
Ok well this explanation may have pushed me into the purchase, I’m still deciding on maybe the real leather.
Before I got a gaming chair my set up was my bed, a wall, and a pillow for back support. And if I got lucky I got to use a lawn chair. I always felt uncomfortable and I was constantly adjusting the pillow cause it was compressing under me but it worked. Luckily for me my dad saw this and felt bad that I sitting up against the wall(I know, first world problems) and got me a chair, now this was the only gift I got from since this chair was over a $250 dollars last I checked. The rest of birthday was my mom and grandpa giving a hundred dollars each nothing else. The chair is a respawn 110 model, it’s a really awesome and comfortable chair that I use every time I sit to play games. The leather is really nice and yes it can do that thing(pewd fans will know) the back support is immensely great and the neck/headrest is great. The leg rest is very convenient and I didn't even know I wanted one. Overall, it doesn't do anything to improve your gameplay but it's definitely better than a office or lawn chair.
Cool blog.
My Titan is supposed to be delivered in July. After seeing several people talk about the breathability of the PU, I decided to pay a little extra for the softweave. Thanks for the long term review. Makes me feel better about spending so much on a chair.
Enjoy the chair! I'm jealous of the softweave.
Believe it or not I have purchased this chair for work. My job has me in front of a computer for about 8-10 hours a day four days a week. So hopefully this does the trick
I don’t know but when I tried a secret lab chair it was a bit disappointing in my opinion everyone tells it’s very luxurious and very good but when I sat on one it was very hard like i felt alsmost I was sitting on a plank with cushions on top of planks my father also tried it who has more backpains so it is very important for him that chairs are a bit soft and keeps his back well and boy o boy he hated it but still nice review non the less
So, if I got one, I should get the softweave one. Got it.
I had a Titan as well, seams busted and it fell apart within 3 months. Customer service refused to Warranty it, stating it was wear and tear(It was on the back of the seat where contact is never made). Worst customer service I have ever experienced in my life. Chair was never comfortable to begin with, being too firm at first then too soft once broken in.
I made the switch to Vertagear's largest chair, and its a little better too.
I want to go back to a traditional chair, but I need to customization of armrest positions to deal with my major shoulder issues unfortunately.
Damn, that sounds like a terrible experience. I haven’t experienced any of this thankfully. I wish I had another chair to recommend to you, but my experience is limited when it comes to the different chairs I’ve tried. I can recommend my shoulder stretch video if you haven’t already tried it. Might help with some of your shoulder issues.
I really like my clutch gaming chair. I like that I can adjust the armrests exactly the way I like
My brother owns a secret lab omega chair and when I first tried it I thought that it was the best chair I’ve ever sat in, for Christmas I got a red/black res pawn chair for about 7 months and I have a bit of back pain when I play video games to the point where I have to put a pillow from my bed to my chair. I can’t upgrade to a secret lab chair due to the price of it but after a bit with the res pawn chair and saving up money I’ll be able to get it.
damn i’m buying an omega chair hmm
I also have a 2 year old PU version but the leather has been completely striped away until the white cloth below has been completely exposed. I use it almost on a daily basis. Secret Lab has a program where you can pay just for the leather cover replacement which i have opted for.
Have this gaming chair, lasted slightly after two years before the leather starts wearing off probably from the hotter climate i am live. Once it starts cracking, it just doesn’t stops. They offered me a replacement of the back rest and seat base for $$$ though... the new leather felt so much comfier than the older before 2018 series.
and this is a spot on review of the chair 👌🏽
I've owned the Titan for almost a year now and have to say it's an amazing chair. It has held up perfectly, I don't have the sweat issue that he has stated, though I have sat in my chair NAKED a few times ( comfy not gonna lie don't judge ) it does put some damage on the leather after a few times. Other than that I've never felt uncomfortable and it looks amazing ( 2020 variant ). I will never buy another chair. Secret Lab has earned my money as long as the quality remains as is.
Got a titan one year later the pleather or whatever it is is peeling, the locking mechanism that stops you from rocking is broken and the armrests have cracked on the sides. So in my experience with it I should have saved money an bought a better quality chair. No I didn't abuse it before anyone asks, I just sat in it to play games. But with everything there is always outliers and mine just might be that outlier, but I won't be be buying another to replace it.
This is completely opposite from my experience with their chairs, but I'm bummed to hear you had these issues.
First of thank you for your service with the Army, great video! I think I'm going to go with the Titan soft weave and subdued logos as much as possible. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video have an awesome day!
There is a SoftWeave fabric that was introduced. Not sure when that came out but it makes it more breathable especially if you run hot or don't have A/C.
Thanks! Just did an update review with the SoftWeave version, check it out! ua-cam.com/video/em7k7xjlbnQ/v-deo.html
had my secret labs chair for a week and my back pain is almost gone
__xypher i have an office chair without a headrest and my neck hurts often when i sit in it
@@screenpatch4146 which office chair exactly?
Man mine is opposite, never had such bad back pain in my life. Very disappointed with my purchase
Mr Sisig i cant tell if this comments like a joke lol. but anyways my previous chair was some trashy ikea chair that only reached up to half my back and it was super tall so i had to slouch down so bad to be able to play as good as i can and that destroyed my lower back. but with this secret labs chair the pillow it comes with is fantastic lumbar support and the one for my neck allows me to comfortably sit up straight with a nice poster. that’s not all that’s good with the chair, that’s just what made my back pain go away. this is by far the mos comfortable chair i’ve ever sat in
Hey man, love the channel just ordered my new chair using your
You’re my favorite.
Fracno, using your...............Affiliate link! Haha forgot to put that part in but keep up the great work man. Love your videos
I bought a $300 office chair that had everything I needed. EXCEPT TILT, and that tilted me.
I haven’t bought this yet, but I’ve watched many reviews of 6 months to 2 years old chairs and this is matching what I need.
As a guy that’s 250 lb, 6’1, this chair already fits my needs.
I absolutely think this is the chair to get for someone your size. I'm 210 and 5'11" and I've tried other chairs that end up feeling too small. I think the support it offers for bigger dudes and dudettes is the selling point. If you do decide to get one, I've got an affiliate link in the video description!
I think the soft weave is a better choice as for reliability and breathability, I personally can not handle my $400 chair start to peel after just 2 years, i am just to cheap that way...lol. I think spend a little more to get Herman Miller or steelcase as they have 10 to 12 years warranty may make more sense in the long run.
I love my secret lab chair. In all honesty the best chair. It’s sturdy, comfy, feels premium, and after 2 years, no signs of wear and tear 🔥🔥🔥
Difference between an gaming chair and an office chair is looks. and most often in gaming chairs looks go before comfort and even more so, posture.
Good video, nice to hear it helped your back. What do you think is better for your back, the new pu2 leather or the softer fabric? Looking to help some back pain as well.
I don’t think one material would be better for your back. More so it affects the breathability and the comfort.
It was very helpful.
There are still few people using this chair in Japan, so I got useful information.
Thank you!
Good video with one valid con that is that it doesn’t breath. The other two were an opinion. The design might bother you but I think it looks kinda cool. The last one just sounds petty, the chair has a pillow incase you want it. It’s an accessories like pillows on a couch. It sounds like you are trying to make an excuse
My reviews will always have some of my personal opinions and experiences, as do most reviews. I feel like I make it obvious when something is subjective but maybe I should make it more obvious.
Yo, I also had this chair for 2 years. I got the all black PU version back in sept 2018. My room is always dark and usually cool. I don't really sweat much even on this chair. My leather has held up rather nicely over the years, only a few wrinkles here and there. I saw some peeling on this guy's chair, and knew what happened when he said that room didn't have AC. Don't get pu leather if your going to sit in such an environment as this was also a problem in a lot of south east asia places. I just triple checked my chair, there is no tearing leather like yours, and a good chunk of my free time is spent on this chair.
My one complaint would be the older model's armrests being wobbly af from the plastic parts over time, but it seems as if they fixed that in the 2020 series. Another small complaint was that my bony butt felt slightly uncomfortable at the way back of the chair due to less foam on that side, and I offset this with some back pillows. That really is more of the nit picky things though, overall I'd say it does justify the $399 price, however, it's not packing any further value. If this was $499 i'd say not worth but it's priced pretty good for what the overall experience has been for me. No pains from sitting so much over the years unlike my previous el cheapo chair (couldn't sit longer than 30 min before pain).
8:15 Not to go into detail, but the reason they had to mention that stuff was due to people who use these chairs while streaming on adult oriented streaming sites where there may be more skin and liquid contact with the chair.
I feel gross typing that, but now you know
I have had my Titan for a week now and never have I ever had so much back pain. My lower back and hips are destroyed from this chair :( Had a DxRacer prior and never had these problems, biggest regret yet was buying a Titan
I have the Omega. Definitely the most comfortable I've used personally, but I've never spent a lot of money on chairs. My only issue is the chair is only about two years old and there's tearing in the arm rest already, both arms. I wouldn't say I abuse or mishandle the chair either.
They just so happen to sell replacements. lol
DId you use it daily? How many hours a day? Be honest please. I need to find someone who has spent the money on a high end chair that has actually put their ass in it 8 hours a day for a year or so
I have the 2020 titan and the chair is okay. It is a hard/stiff chair so imo not comfortable for sitting in for durations more than a couple of hours at a time (This is the total opposite of what the chair is supposedly designed for). I have found that the alignment of the backrest and base is questionable at best. The armrests when adjusted to the exact same position do not line up with the backrest of the chair. One is touching the backrest and the other is about an inch away. I do like the head cushion and the packaging of the chair when it came was good. The instructions were easy to follow for assembly. Overall, is it worth the price? I would say no and I probably wouldn't buy another one in the future. I haven't really considered the return process since it sounds like an absolute headache judging on other people's experiences.
Watching this in bed with back like a ‘C’ might be time to buy
6' -77kg
The sales of Secret-Lab support service is so slow but very nice, I think it's because of the overwhelming sales, in 5 years they generated
over 300 millions of sales. I've ordered the Titan Soft Weave, delivery is minimum 1 month. The big problem whit all chairs is that you can't try them before buying them and returns are a pain in the......! That's why wen you buy a Omega and should of bought a Titan or a Titan XL you are not satisfied. Thanks for your review.
some things you should know before ordering. You have to pay for return shipping, and disassembly requires a pipe wrench and a rubber mallet. They don't tell you the actual dimensions of any of the stuff needed. The pipe wrench needs to be large enough to get enough torque to remove the piston from the seatbase, but you need to have one with narrow jaws or they wont fit in the narrow space available to grip it. I now own 2 pipe wrenches I don't need. It's kind of a pain in the ass. Also, I'm 6'3", 230ish lbs and the placement chosen for the lumbar support makes absolutely no sense for the body dimensions of anyone tall. The lumbar support is located far too low, too close to where the seat and back connect, pushing against where the sacrum would be instead of the lumbar area. I promise you that nobody over 6'0 has a lumbar area of their back so close to their tailbone. The design decision not to allow for vertical adjustment of the lumbar support makes even less sense in this respect. There's other chairs in the same form factor at the same price point that at the very least pay for return shipping. Regret not just buying a steelcase or aeron on the secondary market.
Thanks for sharing. I know I recently spoke to someone in my Discord who was able to return their chair for $75 through SL. It sucks to have to pay anything at all since it's so hard to shop for a chair online, but with a lot of chair companies I'm seeing this trend. I don't have any experience with the Steelcase but I will say that I seriously doubt an Aeron would feel good for a tall person. I personally hate that chair so much. The lumbar support feels like a brick in my back. Either way, I hope you find something that works for you and I appreciate the extra insight on disassembly as it's something I haven't had to do yet.
they make a breathable material now Ive had mine for about an year and half and no swamp ass lol!! but my pillow did the same thing on the back no big deal but the memory foam pillow is very very comfortable
I've done a review on the Soft Weave version, and it's a dream. Absolutely love it.
This is actually helped a little thabks for the review! All up between working and gaming I sit in my cheap ikea chair for around 10 hrs a day.
Due to a motorcycle accident I already have a notoriously horrible back, but my current chair jist puts my back in pieces.
Very much on the ropes whether I want to spend 650 Australian Dollars on the secretlab chair or not and reviews like yours definitely helped!
I’m glad I could help! Sorry to hear about your back but you may find some helpful tips in my back stretch video. It’s the first video on my channel if ya haven’t checked it out yet.
I'm late to the party, but you being a PTT like me gets you a like on your video. You making a video about stretches to relieve back pain IN THE CHAIR, gets you a sub! Amazing work!
I have the GT Omega Pro, with no built in lumbar support. It uses a pleather covered cushion for the lower back. The beauty of it is that it can be moved about. No idea why but sometimes I want it lower and sometimes higher. Like the headrest cushion though, we are built differently so cushions can be moved. Built in lumbar can't be moved up and down, but it can be moved in and out. Whereas the GT Omega chair's pad, is always the same depth.
Most of the concerns brought up here have been resolved in the new 2020 version and the new PU Leather version.
I’ve reviewed the SoftWeave version and I love it.
I bought a chair 6 years ago from a company for 120$ and I LOVED IT
I recently bought a replacement for 140$ from the same company, and I thought it was the same quality.
Oopsy! I immediately hated the new chair, and wish the arm rests on my old one didn't break and fall apart.
Dang...
I've got the same chair and where i sit, behind my knees has peeled and the same spots as your chair too and I never cross or tuck my legs either. It's the PU leather itself. The new stuff is meant to be far harder wearing supposedly and that's why they implemented it.
I'm actually chasing us a reupholsterer up at the moment as the bum part has separated from the inner foam (In part thanks to my cat and his bloody claws) with some cat scratch peeling. I've also ordered some self adhesive PU leather from Amazon (for cheap) to stick ontop of the bum part if the upholsterer is too expensive.
The base costs $136.40 AUD from secret labs as well with the new material.
And that's the best part about these chairs, you can get stuff fixed and it won't cost you an arm and a leg to do so!!
I love my Titan and I especially love the stitching and branding all over it compared to yourself. I think most of us do but personal preference as you said.
I'll update with the outcome of which ever 3 ways I went to repair the base (bum part).
Maybe this can also be a solution for other owners of our model and be a cheap and high quality fix for them as well moving forward!
Thanks for letting me know about your process to get the chair back in to shape. I like that you’re not just chucking it, and looking for ways to repair what is obviously a well made piece of furniture. Good on you, and definitely let me know how it comes out.
@@FracnoTV I certainly will mate, thanks for getting back to me on it too! Really appreciated.
Update coming soon!
@@FracnoTV upon closer inspection (after getting the new PU leather the base (bum part) has lifted off the inner foam, so it looks like a apoulsterer is my next port of call now.
Once again I'll give you an update in how that goes next.
I just got my Titan Classic today, so far I really really love it
You won't be loving it in a few months when you realise these chairs are overpriced junk, had mine 8 months and it's falling apart, going through a warranty claim right now.
Leather on chairs unfortunately lasts around 4-5 years before peeling excesively. After 2 years this looks ok but I believe next 2 years will show you that this will peel a lot. After gaming sessions you will see it under your chair :(. It's nothing that manufacturer can do I believe - this is just the leather thing. Had the same with similar chair. Had to replace it after 5 years because it looked like naked without the leather/skin :(.