Why Ancient REPUBLIC Shipbuilding Just Hit Different: Old Republic Engineering EXPLAINED

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  • @dagdamor1
    @dagdamor1 2 місяці тому +165

    The Hammerheads clutched against a Sith infinite ships cheat code superweapon so hard that the Republic probably had to deal with Warship Fudds for literal millennia.

    • @klobknocker65
      @klobknocker65 2 місяці тому +15

      I know what kind of ship I got sonny.

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 2 місяці тому +26

      I love that KOTOR gave the Republic it's own distinct Iconic ship design to stand out from the Star Destroyer's shadow.
      From the Cruiser to the Corvette to the Starhawk Battleship, Hammerheads lead the way.

    • @ryanwilson5834
      @ryanwilson5834 2 місяці тому +7

      Muh two Sith Wars!

    • @sicor94
      @sicor94 2 місяці тому +6

      If the Hammerheads were so good, then why did the Endar Spire go down, hmmm?
      Turning point Malak.

    • @ryanwilson5834
      @ryanwilson5834 2 місяці тому +7

      @sicor94 because it was a single, unsupported ship vs. an entire Sith fleet. Nothing could have faced that down. Have some more respect for a masterpiece, sonny

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 2 місяці тому +50

    This is why Rendili Stardrives is my favorite Starship manufacturer in Star Wars. I love all the hammerhead style ships from the Praetorian to the Hammerhead and Thranta, and even the cute little Forey. They're all so cool.

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 2 місяці тому +4

      @@inductivegrunt94 Unfun Fact: The Thrantas are made by CEC, not RSD.
      I was disappointed, too.

    • @Panzerless_SG
      @Panzerless_SG 2 місяці тому +4

      I Adore the Hammerheads aswell. In any Rebel (and Sometimes Clone or Old Republic Scenario) I designate them as my flagship, no matter if there are larger ones available. Its design is just amazing and looks great to. RSD is definitely my favorute aswell

    • @mrzirak792
      @mrzirak792 Місяць тому

      ​@@Panzerless_SG having Corvette (because Hammerheads of Old Republic which were Frigates, were all nonexistent after Ruusan Reformation) as flagship is crazy.

  • @andreykuzmin4317
    @andreykuzmin4317 2 місяці тому +81

    This video made me realize, why I find Separatist ship designs so striking. They are organic, with many curved surfaces and protrusions, like ancient Republic or later Mon Calamari ships. But they are all spiny and predatory, looking less like whales, but more like sharks or eels. GAR ships were Sith vessels with Republic coat of paint on. CIS ships were Old Republic designes, waped into shapes of pelagic horrors. Both navies served as foreshadowing of *dark times* to come.

    • @Snailsareawesome-yb5hl
      @Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 місяці тому +3

      😮😮😮

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 Місяць тому

      It also foreshadowed how far the Sith influence and control had reached, to the point where they were playing both sides of the game

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 2 місяці тому +67

    The Old Republic Navy is just built different.

  • @christopheraponte306
    @christopheraponte306 2 місяці тому +25

    "Sir we need ships to defend republic space"
    "Alright, let's make sure all the main guns face forward "
    "But sir, these are supposed to be for defense"
    "Soldier, the best defense is a good offense "

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 2 місяці тому +4

      @christopheraponte306 I would argue that the idea is to eliminate the enemy fleet as fast as possible and minimize loss of lives and material, rather than enter a long, miserable war of attrition.

    • @christopheraponte306
      @christopheraponte306 2 місяці тому +1

      @thebighurt2495 Oh, I totally get the sentiment. It doesn't make it any less ironic, lol

    • @evanallen172
      @evanallen172 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@thebighurt2495 *Proceeds to nearly exclusively get into decades to millenia long, grueling wars of attrition*

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 Місяць тому

      @@evanallen172 Alas

  • @DanTheYoutubeAddict
    @DanTheYoutubeAddict 2 місяці тому +14

    My favorite ship that you covered is the Invincible because its shape is so unconventional for a Star Wars ship and it is essentially the embodiment of the phrase, "Why fix perfection."

  • @FOXY_SPHYNX
    @FOXY_SPHYNX 2 місяці тому +21

    I missed your videos Geet. Glad you made it back

  • @waterbottles393
    @waterbottles393 2 місяці тому +38

    They should make a game or a show set in the old school times of the Republic. I'd like to see how things were going 10,000 years ago and how different everything was

    • @FrostbiteDigital
      @FrostbiteDigital 2 місяці тому +5

      Well if you want games, I mean... There's a bunch of them set in the Old Republic; KOTOR 1-2 and SWTOR being the main ones

    • @Virtual_Jester
      @Virtual_Jester 2 місяці тому +3

      You’re new here, aren’t you?

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 2 місяці тому +1

      i agree their needs to be more stuff from legends old republic era or pre republic eras one of my personal favorite things to suggest would be a episodic documentary covering different time periods/events along with maybe more games and series covering those events and such in more detail though sadly i don't think atm we will get anything like that

    • @captincyborg1349
      @captincyborg1349 Місяць тому

      @@dragonlord498 Yes like what did most civilians use for ships that sort of stuff

    • @dragonlord498
      @dragonlord498 Місяць тому

      @@captincyborg1349 ya also more of the military vehicles like they really don't show many other then capital ships from that era and they should actually be better then the stuff made by the cis/rep/GE as well given the tor era actually overall had better tech the clone wars + was still mostly in a dark age in regards to tech why the required such giant ships compared to the tor era for mounting planet crackers and such on

  • @LMG1792
    @LMG1792 2 місяці тому +16

    The OR Navy was a proper navy but the Venator is still my favorite republic vessel.

  • @lonlidood116
    @lonlidood116 2 місяці тому +21

    22:58 you okay, Geetsly?

    • @VortexLIFEHAXX
      @VortexLIFEHAXX 2 місяці тому +2

      lmao xD

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 місяці тому +15

      Choked on my bantha milk while recording😿

    • @Snailsareawesome-yb5hl
      @Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 місяці тому

      @@geetslys😂🤣😳

    • @VortexLIFEHAXX
      @VortexLIFEHAXX 2 місяці тому

      @@geetslys hahahah lmao

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 Місяць тому

      @@geetslys Another great vid - and thanks.
      I rather suspect the Delaya-class has been scaled too big by official sources - but who can say.
      Recently I made up some nice stats on the Jedi Council Forums (on Share your Headcanons) for the command ship Reliance 1, and the smaller Battleships of the Great Sith War, which I thought worked well.
      The first at about 2200 metres (including that long, narrow nose) and the other design at about half that or less.
      Also, a guy called Trytix on Deviantart did a good 'silhouette chart' - that includes those ships, and many others from the vid, plus Sith ships.

  • @thegrr1346
    @thegrr1346 2 місяці тому +14

    I wouldn't say the Endar Spire was vaporized, she's still mostly intact on the surface of Taris.

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 2 місяці тому

      Pretty sure that planet was destroyed

    • @spartantraveler7251
      @spartantraveler7251 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@matthewchristian9591 we actually go there in some missions in Star Wars the Old Republic.

    • @matthewchristian9591
      @matthewchristian9591 2 місяці тому

      @@spartantraveler7251 really I thought Malek blew it up with the bombardment he litterally said wipe the planet. Damn someone got electrocuted over that screw up.

    • @SmokeyMountainSuccubus
      @SmokeyMountainSuccubus Місяць тому

      I agree it wasn't vaporized but "mostly intact" is wrong in the other direction lol

  • @isaackim7675
    @isaackim7675 2 місяці тому +18

    It would’ve been nice if the EU’s ships such as the New Republic Star Destroyers made it into live action flanking the Starhawks

    • @thebighurt2495
      @thebighurt2495 2 місяці тому +2

      @@isaackim7675 True. At least we get to see Hammerheads deorbiting Star Destroyers again.

  • @alias_aka_alias
    @alias_aka_alias 2 місяці тому +5

    Those Cathedral-Dreadnaughts are some real gothic shit

  • @ambassador-classenjoyer6239
    @ambassador-classenjoyer6239 2 місяці тому +8

    Finally, some respect for the Inexpungable!

  • @blakeetter280
    @blakeetter280 2 місяці тому +3

    While it would be a short video, I’d like to see some more about non-space craft in the Star Wars universe. Like we mostly see military tech, I wanna see what a car is in Star Wars. Do they have busses? Explain wheelchairs to me! Stuff like that.

  • @alexxxaa2366
    @alexxxaa2366 2 місяці тому +5

    The hammerhead is just the GOAT😮‍💨 it saved the republic so many times throughout its long service.

  • @Kaze-30u
    @Kaze-30u 2 місяці тому +10

    that akhem was sus. "flooding the starlanes" hmm?

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 місяці тому +7

    Guess you could say the Old Republic Navy really was built different

  • @Dr_Doctor_Lee
    @Dr_Doctor_Lee 2 місяці тому +4

    i read somewhere that the republic/old republic had one super stardestroyer but i cant remember where. it was hexagonal i think

    • @lachlanthomaslangmead1651
      @lachlanthomaslangmead1651 Місяць тому

      Inexpugnable class Command Ship from the Mandalorian wars? Kind of vaguely disc shaped and quite large

  • @26th_Primarch
    @26th_Primarch 2 місяці тому +4

    I think a video on the Galaxy's other light freighters that aren't part of the YT series.

  • @WhiteWidow2111
    @WhiteWidow2111 Місяць тому

    Tie them all in to one long video please. Awesome to listen to falling asleep.

  • @ThatDragonGuy
    @ThatDragonGuy 2 місяці тому +1

    Maybe next could be pre-Clone Wars ships or ships used by pirates and smugglers?

  • @noblesix3571
    @noblesix3571 2 місяці тому

    My two favorite Old Republic ships are the Thranta and the Valor. Because the first Star wars game I played was SWTOR

  • @gehrigstory6674
    @gehrigstory6674 2 місяці тому +3

    Since you've been delving into Post-Revenge of The Sith content, lately, how about a video on Galactic Civil War-era warships? From 2 BBY, to 19 ABY, in particular; spanning from The Empire, and later Imperial Remnant states, to The Rebel Alliance, and later New Republic? Yes, it would be long videos, but so what? I would love to see some videos about those warships in particular, and just Original Trilogy, and Post-Return of The Jedi content in general, especially if they're talked about in hour long videos, or longer.
    Or, why not a video on the warships of The Ruusan Reformation-era Republic (1000 BBY-22 BBY) right up to The Clone Wars?
    Heck, how about a video on the warships of The Late Legacy Era (127 ABY-140 ABY) at the end of The Star Wars Legends timeline? Seriously, please make some more Star Wars videos outside of The Old Republic, and Clone Wars eras! I would want to know more about what happened after Return of The Jedi, from your perspective, Geetsly.

  • @charles52able1
    @charles52able1 11 днів тому

    I actually really like the design of the Valor Cruiser. To me it looks like an improved version of the Inexpungable class. Given the dome style hull and large underside engine cluster, it sort of reminds me of a Munificent frigate. I'm thinking of a joint venture between Horsch & Kessel and Rendeli Stardrives. To me it also hearkens back to a more Rebel Alliance style ship. One of these would look right at home next to some GR 75 transports and Sphyrna class corvettes.

  • @e.corellius4495
    @e.corellius4495 2 місяці тому +4

    kinda funny how these unique republic aesthetic designs had their own decline into drab modernist steel (triangle) boxes, much like building design in our own reality. like looking at 1980s mcdonalds versus 2020+. and what's interesting is that this shift in star wars was seen before it actually happened here... almost like a writer somewhere knew something we didn't... hmmm makes you think.

    • @chase5436
      @chase5436 Місяць тому

      Simple standardized designs are just more economical/efficient to produce. Palpatine had to start pumping out entire fleets to maintain control of his newly formed Empire.

    • @e.corellius4495
      @e.corellius4495 Місяць тому

      @@chase5436 not quite right. here they spent billions renovating pre-existing restaurants into drab garbage. in star wars it was all a cost balance. tie fighters were dirt cheap sure, but an imperial star destroyer, especially the imperial 2's cost more to make than basically any other ship of the era (short of mega ships like super star destroyers or mandators of which few could afford more than 1) the empire made the imperial class the backbone of the fleet in spite of its cost not because of it. most of the empires fighters and small escort ships or frigates, the ones you need the most of were made dirt cheap sure. but the capital ships, the imperial, or the smaller victory, were some of the most expensive ships of the day. they were made so for their raw effectiveness in combat. possibly to offset the cheapness of the rest of the fleet, or perhaps simply to embody power as sith like to do.
      bottom line. if it was cheapness that removed the flavor, then thats fine, but in reality both in star wars and in our own world, its hilariously expensive to make everything as boring as possible. making the motives behind the move more.... sinister in nature.

  • @joshk96
    @joshk96 2 місяці тому +9

    The editor needs to stop using the wrong ship pictures. It confuses fans that don't know any better

  • @galaxysshadow
    @galaxysshadow 5 днів тому

    12:32 is that deadass a starfield pic???

  • @tidepoolclipper8657
    @tidepoolclipper8657 Місяць тому

    My favorite from this time is the Praetorian Hammerhead.

  • @pgkr62pljks1
    @pgkr62pljks1 2 місяці тому +1

    23:00 lmao

  • @lachlanthomaslangmead1651
    @lachlanthomaslangmead1651 Місяць тому

    Idea: Crimson Tide-ish movie about Vanicus’ and the Republic’s botched attack on the Koros Ground Control Station during the Krath Uprising

  • @enthusiasticgrog465
    @enthusiasticgrog465 2 місяці тому

    Good to see Tales of the Jedi lore!

  • @williamcote4208
    @williamcote4208 2 місяці тому

    Generation tomorrow overhaul aka the “Jeune École” of the Star Wars universe.
    The Jeune École was a French naval school of thought that said that a smaller navy could win against a bigger one by fielding small and less costly ships, like cruiser, torpedo boats and submarine, by attacking it’s merchant fleet and bailing out when bigger warships showed up.
    On paper, it works. In practice… Japan tried it once and they immediately knew that, if it wasn’t for the corruption and lack of maintenance on the Chinese Navy, they would have gotten their ass kicked. Which led to them turning to the UK to build them Battleships.
    One of those battleships still exist today: The IJN Mikasa.

  • @DragonxFlutter
    @DragonxFlutter 2 місяці тому

    Like their True Sith counterparts, I would love to have detailed deck maps and TTRPG stats for the SWTOR Era ships. And I will not stand for the slander against their aesthetics.

  • @Josh-ye9ol
    @Josh-ye9ol 2 місяці тому

    Did we not cover the tb-7 or did I miss it some how

  • @TheRezro
    @TheRezro 2 місяці тому +2

    Minor complain. I know it was intended as background. But mixing modern and historical design is really confusing.

  • @chrismills2439
    @chrismills2439 2 місяці тому

    the hammerhead heavy cruiser is the best ship of the old republic followed by the corvette the jedi used. Their heavily armed interstellar space liner Cruiser not so much( the valor class)

  • @Unammedacc
    @Unammedacc 2 місяці тому

    I strongly disagree with you about the Valor, I love that ship, and find it very cool, original and beautiful. It feels different and yet give some personnality to the Republic Navy of the SWTOR games.

  • @jarumascz4361
    @jarumascz4361 2 місяці тому +1

    You Ok? And this quite puzzles me for a while. How do sw ships stop? Like in Space engineers and general Space science you need some counter Force to stop from moving from one direction to the other

    • @codypatton2859
      @codypatton2859 2 місяці тому

      Inertial dampeners

    • @jarumascz4361
      @jarumascz4361 2 місяці тому

      @codypatton2859 potentionaly it would melt the ship from inside

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 2 місяці тому +2

    I would recommend the Separatists and the Empire, but they weren't around for very long to have a lot of stuff to talk about, maybe the Rebels given they do become the New Republic could have some stuff.
    Also, 23:00-23:03: You okay there, Geetsly? You don't usually cough in a video like that.

  • @basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126
    @basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 2 місяці тому +3

    What? The Valor class cruiser is ugly?
    I thought it looked awesome, it's my favorite Old Republic ship

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 2 місяці тому +1

    Are you using AI to Generate your Background images because a LOT of these are Clone War Era and Post BBY images?!? 🤔

  • @eugenebelford9087
    @eugenebelford9087 2 місяці тому +1

    While the Hammerhead is quite nice and durable, nothing - absolutely nothing! - at its time could beat the durability of a Dynamic-class freighter manned(?) and armed with a certain T3-M4 Droid. 😁

  • @danielcastaneda4975
    @danielcastaneda4975 Місяць тому

    This is why it sucks that they added most of these ships in star wars rebels and the disney movies. Just to copy and paste already existing material and not having to work

  • @kharak1050
    @kharak1050 2 місяці тому +4

    I see you used a few pieces of my work, while I'm glad you liked my work enough to want to use it here and in other videos. It would have been nice if you had reached out to me first instead of using it without asking. I'm very easy to reach, and would have been more than happy to create some custom renders for you use in exchange for a shoutout or something. Alas, you didn't even do the bare minimum and credit me.

  • @potatostomatoes4599
    @potatostomatoes4599 2 місяці тому +8

    2 views in 1 minute, bro really fell off 😔

    • @bcmm1880
      @bcmm1880 2 місяці тому +3

      5 likes in 1 hour, meme really fell off 😭

    • @potatostomatoes4599
      @potatostomatoes4599 2 місяці тому

      @@bcmm1880 video starts at 0:00 btw