BMW R18 First Review. Harley-Davidson Killer?
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2020
- Full review, ratings, and specs: drvm.co/BMW-R18
The BMW R18 just made its debut on the market. We’re among the first ones to test it and we tried to learn as much as we could about the first BMW cruiser. Featuring a 1,800 cc engine, it’s the first BMW to be able to compete in the American cruiser segment, ruled by Harley-Davidson.
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Actually, Harley is doing a stunning job of ending themselves.
This is true, they destroyed HD trying to get assholes to buy them!
@Carl Lewis guess what the funny thing is.
Their 500cc street 500 was made in India
But sold in America. They made a bike for the Indian market, and they didn't even sell it here.
Well well well, I own a Harley Road glide and a 2020 bmw R1250 GS, they are both great bikes that do things differently! The GS is my24 th motorcycle, Harley is regrouping to a changing market, I’m very fortunate every time I get on either bike! I just enjoy riding Kawasaki, Yamaha, Honda, bmw, and Harley! Happy new year and ride safe, no matter what you ride! Had a great time in 2020at Sturgis, couldn’t wait to get home to ride my beemer! ( it’s my second bmw). I glad there are so many ice motorcycles!
Nice motorcycles
Or looks like and sounds like the BMW my grandpa used to drive when I was young
considering my current salary, and especially my country's insane import tax, i can only congratulate the lucky owners of this beauty.
Harley-Davidson Killer?... nah Harley-Davidson is killing itself...
Sad but true
...but BMW give the last punch.
If I want power and quality, then I buy a BMW and definitely not a Harley!
@@vladir9t_freak439 i'm with you! Well said!!!
@4The2nd why riding a dead horse on his last journey?!
For my own, i handle and own a oldtimer Kawasaki, i'm not in need to invest in a dead horse.
If anyone, ever, tried to imagine Dracula speaking English, should listen to this guy.
That’s hilarious 😂
That’s hilarious 😂
Hahahaa Dracula riding BMW motorbike...
That would be Bela Lugosi who actually did have that accent and played in the original sound movies about Count Dracula.
you are absolutely right
Another great video and review. Nice work guys! 👍🏻
Love the way you talk about this bike.
Some wonderful videography. Enjoyed this. Rode it this week myself. Thanks.
Beyond cool....The presence of those heads unreal. Great video. Thnx!!
Great review. Good presenting and pictures. Thank you.
I have a 2020 First Edition R18 and I can’t say enough great things about it . It’s a beautiful amazing piece of machinery and a total joy to ride
I ride a RnineT racer which is quite different in style but I’ve got to say that I really like the R18, the engine, the style, the classic black tank with pin stripes. And by the way you guys 🇷🇴 are great too !! 🇬🇧🏍
Honest review and professional production and camera work as always!
I am so in love with this bike!😍
Thanks for your review.
Great honest review & relevant, informative information. 👌
Excellent review video. Thank you!
Great video and cheers from bukowina mc. Just picked my r18 up last week. I love it
I own a 2020 H-D Low Rider S and have 10,000 miles on it! I love it, it's the best motorcycle I have owned.
I test rode thr R18 a couple of weeks ago and loved it :)
Great review thankyou! Subscribed!
Nice honest review without all the BMW marketing hype. The bike is a work of art with innovative engineering but I don't see it capturing market share from Harley and Indian in the US. It seems to be targeted at upper income professionals who like to dabble with motorcycles on the weekend for a ride around town and stop at Starbucks. It just doesn't seem like a bike for the high mileage long haul or designed for a ride down the Blue Ridge Parkway (Virginia and North Carolina), Beartooth Highway (Montana and Wyoming), or Pacific Coast Highway (California). Or am I missing something?
My feeling is that a lot of americans like this bike and a fat boy oder breakout cost the same (in europe)
Amazing vídeo!!!!! Great scenes and the bike is really amazing either
Very good short review, I’m from California & really want to buy this bike next year. I have a Yamaha cruiser 950
I love your review, excellent , very well descriptive of this bike. Because of you I will get one! I’ve seen tons of poor reviews. This bike is like no other. Thank you very much!
6’3” 235lbs, I bought this yesterday. I’ve ridden it pretty much non stop, I’ve NEVER owned a motorcycle I’ve ever NOT gotten fatigued on. I absolutely love this bike and I’ve never found a cruiser I actually liked before. The all Shadow Black R18 B I bought just looks evil when on the road or parked and the massive coffee can cylinders make a statement!!
In case anybody's wondering, power at the wheel as measured on a dyno is about the same as a stock Harley M8 114. Both are around 82 HP. The R18 is around 103 TQ, the M8 114 is around 107 TQ. Both have flat torque curves and similar redlines. The M8 107 is slightly lower at 80 HP and 98 TQ, also with a flat torque curve and a redline a little over 5000 RPM.
Let me repeat that I am referring to numbers at the wheel. The reason is that it's impractical to test power at the crank outside the factory. Manufacturers tend to promote numbers at the crank, because it's easy for them to obtain, and because it will always be a higher number, usually by 10 to 15 percent. Harley owners tend to use dyno/wheel numbers, for two reasons. One is that Harley doesn't even tell you horsepower, only torque. But also, it is extremely common for American Harley owners to extensively upgrade their engines, and when you do so, it is preferable to get before and after dyno numbers. A good Stage II can take you to 115 HP and 125 TQ or beyond. By "good", I mean using an aftermarket cam and tune. A good Stage IV can achieve 150 HP or even more. Any Harley owner who cares about performance will probably do at least a Stage I, and if you don't care about performance, you won't be going online swapping HP and TQ numbers.
RIP Cristian, we will miss your videos and passion. Thanks for all.
yes same...just awful...
I'm not into bikes, but this guy knows his business. I will leave a sub.
Good review!I like this bike a lot.Looks a bit sinister and mean....Your snazzy crash helmet was neat too!
By far the best review on you tube, thank you for that . I have to harley but I surely can sell one to have this R18... but I want to test it before buying. ;)
A very well executed professional review,thks.JHB-SA.
Honest review. I just bought an R18 Transcontinental and i fell in love with this bike that is not perfect and for this reason too i love it: perfection is boring (even in a woman...). I come from the HD Touring world (Street and Road Glide, Limited, CVO) but i wanted to change and try something different but with a high level of quality and reliability. In a BMW R18 Transcontinental (the same is with the B version or the FE or the Classic version) i could find it. As you said: this engine is a sort of mechanical piece of Art and it pulls STRONG with more than 150 Nm of Torque.
Completely agree about the exposed wiring
Thanks for the great review! I just rode one last week, super cool bike. If compared it to a Harley, u miss out on what BMW brings to the cruiser game. Great bike for the money, but def big. Your points are great, thanks for making such a great vid!
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massive massive massive engine with reasonable numbers when it comes to output.... no bags, no wind protection... and my word who let those pipes go into production. Harley killer.... not in my opinion but I do appreciate and respect that motorcycles are a very personal appreciation spectrum. I have owned many Harelys and a few BMW's and as far as reliability and joy of riding, the Harleys I have owned took the cake.
First thing I will change is the Hilsa Fish shaped exhaust..Second one will be the seat..to make it more comfortable for a hardtail. Rest is all ok.
This bike from BMW has been launched in India too costs around 18.5 lakhs. Very fortunate to see the review here as in India auto reviewers are not that lucky to feel the ride experience as its still in showroom.
Nice video :) Sir , How is the vibration that is coming to the handle bar while riding ? . Thanks :)
Nice video, very honest and a perfect blend of objective vs subjective outlooks.
My only thing is that you titled the video “BMW R18 first review. Harley Davidson killer?”
With that title, I would have hoped for more comparisons, or at least some references to why you would question it being a Harley Davidson killer.
Hope that wasn’t being disrespectful or even condescending, but that is what made me click on your video vs the others that were out there. Great job though. Thanks for the review.
One bike with rock mode it’s so cool!!! Thanks for this great review. Can you say me the name of the shooting place? Amazing views! I think that this is one of the best motorbike channels. Your staff do it a great job 👏 Greetings from Spain!
I guess it was the Transbucegi where they shot the clip.
neighborsgoat thanks!
Rode yesterday. Ive ridden several HDs and currently main bike is Rocket3 TFC. This bike looks stunning and riding position is good. Just developed hand cramps after 30 mins in clutch hand probably due to handlebars. Front brakes have no feel and not enough bite. Engine has very good low down punch but gutless after 4k like a Harley. Engine shakes but more refined than HD soft tails. Handles quite well as weight low down but not much clearance. Seat not comfortable on first edition.
I personally would not add to collection as Rocket is waaaay better in every way except looks. Rocket gets lots of looks and thumbs up just like this.
It's a nice bike, but it will never have what a Harley offers. Compare the after market, all of the performance mods, exhaust, the custom frames, forks and suspension mods, custom anything for the Harley, its easy to work on, has incredible parts availability, and a diverse community, familiar with any mods you may want to do. For there to be any comparison between these 2 bikes, the bmw would need an aftermarket as incredible as the Harley. It's a nice bike though, but you cant compare it to the Harley when you assume what I just mentioned.
You've got to make up your mind about the bike; which one is it?
i) nimble and easy to steer (2:38), or hard to do so due to its 350-ish weight (3:55)?
ii) very precise throttle response to ride (4:30), or have to work a lot with the throttle (3:58)?
Hello. It's nimble for its class, but still it's not suitable for short turns and hairpins. The throttle reponse is very precise, but you have to open/close often due to the short gears ratio. :) All the best, Cristian
Where are you driving? yes saw in flesh for first time yesterday blown away with the amount of detail and quality of the bike, Dealer is just in process of registering bike as we can start taking it for a day out
It seems too heavy for what it is? Same weight more or less as the 6 cylinder BMW 1600 with panniers. At 345 kilos you wouldn’t want this to tip over while you’re manoeuvring around the carpark ( I can hear my legs snap ...)
Looks great. I would not be an early adopter on this but would wait for buyer reviews first. It’s a lot of money. I really think the limited lower leg room is going to be deal breaker for some.
RIP when the bike falls...🥴🥴🥴
Hello I write from Portugal and I really like your motorcycle test videos, particularly from the turing segment. Which is mine with my K 1600 GTL.
If you don't mind I ask in this essay what is the make and model of the pants you wear, because I am looking for one of the kind.
Merry Christmas, Rui
Hi, what is the helmet model?
Thank you
BMW makes a knock off HD softail slim and everyone loses their minds in the comments. Lol jk but you’re right it looks much better in person and it is pretty cool. I saw it at the dealer this week. I wouldn’t trade my Harley for it but I would definitely own as a second bike. You guys make the best videos with the best in motion footage. Keep it up.
H H absolutely but you do realize this bike looks almost exaclty like a Softail slim right? It’s closer to the slim than a vintage bmw cruiser in looks other than the boxer engine sticking out. There’s really no denying that.
It’s a boxer not a creíble two different animals
I would most like to try the Chopper model with the Ape hanger bars which would be more comfortable.
Good review. What shoes are those?
It's look like It can vibrate entire globe,,,
Low center of gravity but with left and right vibrations because of the pistons. (We can tell by the way the cameras move...) Does it wear the tires quicker with that kind of left and right vibration?
Wow😍😍😍 that sound 🤩🎶❤️
Loved the R18 Concept Bobber but this looks like a HD Slim with a boxer motor.
BMW never misses handlebar ergo.. I've had many and currently have a BMW F300GS and a HD Ultra limited
I always like watching coz am a big fan of 2 wheelers, i ride a bmw gs1200 lc
I dont know why but i absolutley LOATHE the way those exhaust pipes look .
They don’t look great. I agree. My dealer did however say you can order it with different pipes and blacked out, at extra cost. I think up to £30,000. A lot of money.
The only HD killer is HD itself...
The only HD killer is HD riders who refuse to allow HD to produce modern bikes.
CaptHollister I can’t resist .. what’s a modern bike ..
@@ionageman The Street models, the Livewire. Check out the reactions on HD forums and FB groups. And let's not even mention the upcoming Chinese built single. Yes, I know that HD has had Italian-made singles and even two-strokes in its lineup, but Harleyistas don't really care because that was in the past.
@@ionageman HP, HP, HP, HP, HP, HP to infinity, say the uneducated deep inside, though most uneducated don't use their high HP bikes to their full potential. They are a joke. Both.
Thanks for clip. Nice. Gotta give Germs some credit. They always try and their auto market is great as always. They really build very good awesome bikes. The features they offered on bikes Harley offers them almost a Decade later. Like their break system. Harley makes Manly Good looking bikes but that’s it. Safety and and performances not their top priority. For Germany it is. Safety n performance has always proven to be their top engineered vehicles. I’m a Harley rider and owned every class of Harley for past 20 years but my one BMW exceeded every standard and expectations of a bike owner. BMW R12 was the best cruiser I owned. My new softail M8 mini apes is a head turner BUT it’s not as Comfortable and Safe as My Harley Bikes. Thanks 🙏
Thank you again for a nice video. Well done 👍 🙏🌷❤️
I can’t wait for my New R18 in 2021 🤞🤞🤞
Not sure why people are so hell bent on comparing this to a Harley. Harley riders will always ride Harleys, the bent twin, the sound, the history, I definitely get it. Me personally, I am not a Harley person, probably would never own one, butbi would think about the R18 (even though I am not a cruiser type of rider). Not even sure of the styling of the r18 (and I agree, those pipes are just hideous, off they come ...), but that boxer engine, that bit I just get. Quick confession, I already ride an r1100, but hearing that night pushrod lump of a zeppelin engine just puts a huge smile on my face. The sound, no doubt the wall of torque, not to mention that very unique boxer quirk of wobbling on idle, just the thought of it puts a fucking huge smile on my face. I just hope that bmer consider putting that gem is a backwards "lowtech" lump into something more manageable, it really does remind me of all the reasons I still like the old airheads. I dont dare take one for a rest ride, I full well know what will happen next. Fear not Harley riders, I dont see this taking Harley riders away, more likely adding numbers to the cruiser market, and not a bad thing
Awesome roads and scenery
Harley-Davidson doesn’t need a “killer” they are killing themself :/
The R 18 is very beautiful :)
yawn, get over yourself..this vibrating dinosaur is what you think will kill Harley? hahaha
@@81722Les try and read that comment again. At what point did this person state that the r18 would kill harley?
Christian Jacobsen in the title
81722Les and harleys don’t vibrate at all? Lmao
@@nathank6468 here, have a cookie...
Can you please share this rev'it jacket model? :)
Looks like it shakes like crazy.
What an awesome bike, and the worst designed pipe I’ve ever seen. WTF were they thinking with that muffler
Rob Kahla it’s a nod to the original model from like 60 years ago. There is an option for normal pipes from Vans and Heinz
The pipe is way better in person. Looking down on the pipes they curve in smoothly. I've never seen anything like that.
I think you're way wrong, the pipes are cool.
The muffler looks like a squid
@@user-et6nb3np1h next to opposites Harleys itself, only pieces of designed crap. Look at the new models, absolutely NO constructions made of proud any more.
The optical lines of todays productions looks transformed Hobbits heading to Mordor.
If you look carefully headlight was jumping out of it's fixture, surely better than HD
beautiful roads! Where did you test the r18?
Romania
It's a bit like a BMW fan club on this channel.
That is so true... 🙄
Yes and they have no scence of reality. Sure BMW build some quality motorcycles this most certainly isn't one of them
PG GP why is this bike not a quality bike?
Did you ride it?
Yeah, their content lately is apparently very pro of the brand.
more like a drunk horde
Any idea what helmet is that?
Yeah i agree with Bill the Biker's comments, you see, a harley is a harley, its just about what it is, its THAT character, so its down to just preference actually, bmw is just trying to explore this segment. But like i said, a harley is a harley, that's it. Its concept.
after i see your video... finally, i remember with old one, BMW R35 1948... but with the biggest engine... 1800cc boxer... feels like Harley Davidson Softail or Fat Boy... Good Luck Brother 🤜🤛... Blaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🤟😎
certainly i prefer my africa twin adventure sports! but this is a really great bike! it's the details that make the difference! it has a crazy engine! excellent video and quality! congratulations Cristian!
Greetings from Italy🇮🇹
ATAS any day of the week!!!
BMW really is great with brakes,.. But the best breaks I've ever had is on the HD Ultra Limited... The mixing is ingenious. They need it... That bike is 900 lbs
Hi, I saw you in Slovenia last weekend on this bike :-) there was ´t time to take the picture with you :-(
BMW just nailed it with this amazing bike.
Absolutely !!!!!
They need to allocate 30mph for each gear shift. Then ... It will be nice.
is this tube wheels??
At 3:57 it looks like there’s a big ass dent on the left side of the engine above the left cylinder ... look harder! But however; nice ride.
Lovely landscape, beautiful bike, great review! honestly this BMW it’s just another bike that aims to be just like Harley. Only that it’s not. Not a leader, a follower. The HD 114 M8 comes standard on softails. Let’s not mention the HD 131 ci milwaukee 8. (2,146 cc)
Minute 2:00 that's the song from Chopsy xD
Wow! what is this helmet called?
I am not into cruisers but this bike is damn nice. I like it very much. And i like your jacket. I know its revit but model?
What brand of helmet？
@15:18 what is the name for that outro piano piece?
Теж шукаю 😀 цю мелодію
Apo erik satie Gymnopedies
Thanks for one of the first reviews. But have you ever reviewed any Harley Davidson? Looking at your channel history it looks like you don't have any riding experience with HD. Is this bike so much better than HD softails? R18 cost in europe is 22-27k eur, HD street bob is 15k. Looks like it's way too overpriced.
Exactly and same goes for all the HD hardly ridden opinions splattering all over like a horde of crazies. The bike reviewer plus all the other Yuotube reviewers BMW is going to throw out in the following days hardly have any experience riding Softails nor Harleys for a considerable amount of time but want us to come lather up their 3min rides and 90,000 worded opinion thats full of biased rabid raves. Fortnine said it right, UA-cam reviewers are crap
Breakout and Fat Boy costs also over 21k
@@81722Les most legit motorcycle journos probably have a whole lot more experience than you, or any harley rider. 44teeth, drivemag, zack and Ari, motorcyclist, mcn, etc. There's a reason people with lots of experience don't ride harleys, they suck
Dude, any bike that competes against HD, is better than HD.
@@keeno86 hahahha, yea they do...when they sit on a bike for 10mins and give the review of a lifetime. just ride and stop frothing between your gums with hate for brands, "Mr, I ride for the sake of a brand name"
Wonder if bmw got everyone the same? Many don't like the exhaust, giving some testers a machine equipped with the various other factory options would clarify what's possible
Hello again,
I believe you comparing this bike with gs and k1600 gt.
That’s why you are not very happy 😊
If you compare it with Harley or other choppers , you would realize how beautiful ride engineering wise and safety wise.
Keep up sending videos, I’m keeping up watching them with joy 🤩
Kind regards
Don't think many Hartley owners will swap. You either get Hartley ownership or you don't. I personally don't get it. On a different note remember the 1200c,how much different is it to the r18. That bike bombed, badly.
That helmet though!!! what is this beauty?
Nice mid range looks like
Hello! Can I ask what helmet are you wearing please? Thank you!!!!!!!!
Of course 2020 would be the year that bmw makes a softtail and Harley makes a gs
That kind of rattle and vibrate upon starting the engine. Whatever bike model you owned, dont let it idle with the bike facing down slope especially when sidestand is on. Happened yesterday, my girl friend bike slip forward and dropped on it side when she start the engine and let it idle when the bike was parked facing down slope.
What’s the brand and style the jacket you’re ?
Looks like Revit brand, due to arm logo.
Hello, where in Romania are those roads?
TransAlpina I believe...
Why would you put a quickshifter on a bike that is completely showing a classical style??
Because of its unusual sitting position where footpeg is midset, so quickshifter is there only to remove fatigue of riders.
Because most of the people who drive cruisers are old men with arthritis
You deserved to be one of the first...!
shed, good luck sellin em
Those grapes are sour🤣
@Fail Zero "If they weren't selling then it wouldn't be made". Said Nokia with the N-Gage phone, RED with their Hydrogen phone and Jeff Bezos with the Amazon Fire phone ;)
What is the name of the musical composition played on the piano?
erik satie gymnopedies 😉
@@tigerxav дякую thank you
I wouldn't trade my 10 year old Raider for it . GROSS !
That's ridiculous. I love it.