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Dante Bowe Says THIS About Split with Maverick City in NEW Interview
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- Dante Bowe Says THIS About Split with Maverick City in NEW Interview
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"worship music" is such a broad term, and it shouldn't be. Imo. There is music to encourage us, the psalms have many examples... But to worship our Lord Yeshua Messiah is to speak of Him, not ourselves. Many times lyrics point to ourselves... But a great "worship" song will point to Yah and His Holiness and character.
"You unravel ME
With a melody
You surround ME with a song"
Vs
"Holy Holy Holy is the Lord God Almighty."
"Holy is the Lamb"
Or...
YOU unravel me with a melody.
YOU surround me with a song.
Worship is a posture of praise to God from the heart. I praise YOU because YOU unravel me.... I praise YOU because YOU surround me. Something to think about, perhaps. And yes... "Holy Holy is The Lotd God Almighty.". That's certainly worship too.
I certainly agree that it's a posture of the heart but our words matter and many "worship songs" reflect our posture of our heart. There is a song I heard called "made too pretty" that I think says it well. We aren't gods. He is God. Oftentimes I have noticed that worship songs do point to ourselves maybe not just in that song but in many songs. Yes it's fine to have music that encourages us to be stronger and whatnot. But a true worship song should make you want to fall on your face in awe of the Lord. And that's just my opinion.
Scripture actually gives the absolute definition of worship
Romans 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God-this is your true and proper worship.
Worship has nothing to do with Christ centric music. It’s an offering we give to god, when we lay down our life to be a living sacrifice the same way Christ layed his down for his Heavenly Father. The music allows us to step into that posture so that we may achieve that
Yes! I learned a long time ago the different! Although I don’t see anything about proclaiming what the Lord God has done for us. I understand the difference about song# that exalt him. Check out the song of Moses in Revelation as a clear example.
Let's keep Dante in our prayers 🙏. He needs it like we all do 🙏
Amen 🙏🏾
Yes, exactly 💯
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I agree. To often Christians are quick to down other Christians and call it concern.
Thank you - this is a big reality check. May God help us all! 📌💯
That part about the best music coming out of the deepest struggle. Dante Bowe has an amazing testimony of overcoming addiction from before Maverick city. You hear it in his music.
Worship is something very deep , its not about music only. Worship is what Angels do in the thrown room . Once you hear Angels sing and you see them worship and shout , it will change the way Kingdom Citizens , worship the Lord , we need to encounter Jesus first , we must change completely , then we will fully comprehend what worship is.
My issue with this and these comments is its not our business to know what he did. He doesn't have to put his business out to take accountability. He only needs to be accountable to God. Not humans. People want to know to be nosey...Not to help him through his dark season. If you want to genuinely help..Pray for him. And that's all you need to know.
I’ve seen a lot of people fall because they didn’t want to confess their sin and admit their struggles. They practically wanted to hide in their sin while asking for prayer whether because of embarrassment or shame. We are definitely accountable to God, but God puts people in our lives to be accountable to to help us with our walk.
Amen!!!
@@TheHitSquadOffroad I understand where you’re coming from. I think what we need to remember is that we’re not there either. Don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. It could be not as bad or worse than we think. Pray for that person even if they don’t admit it. Grace and mercy is stronger than knowing all deets w/ the receipts.
@@TheHitSquadOffroad they can confess their sin to people they trust it doesn’t have to be to the world. Why do I need an explanation and him to apologize me. It ain’t my business.
@@TheHitSquadOffroad You are to be accountable to your church community, not the entire internet which as the OP said most people just want to know to be nosy and jugemental.
I was in a deep place of despair last yr...Dante's songs were a light to my soul.
when we have tests it becomes part of our testimony, but there has to be repentance.
AMEN, you just nailed the point of it all.
That part. I was just thinking while watching this video-maybe Dante hasn't addressed the real truth behind the split, if in fact its because of his indiscretion, because he isn't completely free from those things that have him still in some form of bondage. Its easier for a person to share their testimony of Jesus' saving grace and forgiveness, when the very thing (s) that had them bound has been overcome (knowing that from my own personal walk with Christ) when that is the case, any shame, guilt or fear is not apart of the conversation/testimony because there is FREEDOM.
We are to continue to pray for our brother in Christ, Dante, that he may experience Victory OVER every area of his life, in Jesus name, Amen.
📌📌📌📌👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾there was absolutely no repentance
Who said that he didn't repent? You don't know that. Jesus is his only Lord and Savior.
@@MagnoliaMolasses How do you know this with such certainty? Such finality? Such authority? This is scary!
Galatians 6:1
Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted.
Somebody said “share your scars, not your open wounds”
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If his song is not worthy of being on a worship playlist than we shouldn’t read the Psalms… David wrote some of the most impactful Psalms in response to his wrong doing, being in a dark place, and during his recovery from his falls.
Please don't compare Dante Bowe's music to Holy Scripture...they are incomparable
I agree David was very candid with his relationship with God and he expects God's response to his actions in fact very arrogant at times.
@@TheBelovedPhysician it’s not a comparison, it’s showing the similarities which you cannot argue with
@Shanelda Harris when we normalise sin and bad habits we turn to scriptures to try and justify things.please stop this nonsense and repent
@President Of Peace it's the same to justify judging, rudeness, and everything else. Please stop doing that, too. The great thing about God is He allows us all to have our own relationship with Him. I pray people who constantly feel nailed to a cross at least get that out of it. Scripture doesn't save you is an account of someone else's encouragement and encounter with God. It's the belief that once you are able to truly believe, that will help you to refrain from doing anything to disrupt true relationships with the Almighty. I could go on and on. I am a sinner, but I call my sins before God and thankful for His mercy and pray I never have to see what happens if He is not there. Truth is for as much as God made humans in his image, we never knew what to do.
Dante B is unique and I must confess that he is so unique and he stands out of the group. And God will surely use him to His Glory. 🙏❤️🙏
Every person, whether in ministry or the average jo trying to live a christian life, we need to have a heart of humility and submission to our brother's and sister's. There needs to be so much more honest conversation happening. Instead it seems to be more of, "let's just cover it up and fluff our way through it". No real issues are dealt with. We need to show others that we have to be willing to open up and actually resolve deep rooted issues and keep each other accountable. Whatever that may look like. Praying for Dante and you Ruslan. Love the show my brother!
What worries me is that he does not acknowledge his part in the fall out with maverick city.
I dont think he will. Beacuse he does not think it was that big of a deal. He was more depressed about being cut off, not about his sin.
My sentiments exactly. He didn't acknowledge his behaviors, he was simply stating how it worked for his own good, instead of stating how he reflected, etc
He doesn't have to. Don't be worried. Pray for him and yourself.
@@cdlang10he does. It’s called owning up to your mistakes and being an example, especially when you are in positions of ministry and high influence
Sooo, what did he actually do to get kicked off Maverick City if it wasn’t the association with NasX n bad Bunny?
Some of David’s best Psalms was made in his darkest seasons; when he was in the run and when he had sinned and felt everyone was against him.
"We overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony".
If we continue to act like the things we are currently struggling with are in the past, we never will reach healing. The exact things we don't want to share are the things the Lord uses to heal others. I am a personal witness, and I'm still walking through my own healing right now. I hope Dante allows Jesus to heal him in private, and that he'll use it as a testimony.
Side note we need more masculinity in gospel music bruh !!! Praying for Dante, praying for these artist period
Like “we worship you Lord as we eat beef jerky and drink our coffee black” type lyrics, right? Cuz I definitely think Jesus ate jerky and lifted heavy weights honestly…
@@PM-hh9ur Bro 😂😂😂.
What does that even mean
@@tchoopee5143 honestly sad that we don't know what that means in 2023
@@newrainmusic that’s why I asked you for clarity brother. What do you mean by “we need more masculinity in gospel music”
bruuuuh i was waiting for you to talk about this!👏🏼 yes God uses our trials, but we need accountability…props to you bro in Christ❤
He who is without sin
Cast the first stone....
Everybody quit acting like all these worship leaders aren't human just like you and I...
We should pray for Dante fr🙌🏻🙏🏻
Repentance is the key. Stop defending people when they are wrong and start rebuking so that they can be restored…if they are true believers
This guy still makes amazing music! ❤ God bless him
"The very thing that makes for great art makes for a terrible life...." What an unfortunate truth but it's beautiful to see how hardships can also be turned into something that's celebrated or beautiful.
Agreed! I love the commentary. It's exactly 💯 how I feel. If you messed up take accountability.
Who said that he didn't take accountability? He doesn't have to tell all of his business to the world, only to God. Do you tell the entire world when you mess up and sin? That's why we have a savior.
@cdlang10 you are right, he has to be accountable to God, however, he is a public figure.
Praying for Dante, I understand not wanting to get into it with the public. He doesn't owe me an explanation, if I become so offended by the behavior I move away because that's what I control. I'm leaving it to God, but if he makes good music I will use it when I am worshiping God. Blessings all
Sorry I don't care if Dante Bowe's New music w/ his NEW TEAM or his NEW producers is 🔥.... If there is NO REPENTANCE, NO accountability talks to help the next generation or heck the current generation to avoid Satan's traps, then it's CAP for me‼️ Hopefully Dante understands the depth of the calling & as Paul said " I keep my body under subjection, lest preaching to others, MYSELF be a castaway" 1 Cor 9 :27
I actually think that for Dante, it’s about his career. I don’t like being cynical but I’ve heard a lot of stories about some worship leaders for mega churches only there for music and their image and not for any actual fellowship or honest walk with God, so I think we should seriously pray for him and be wary of accepting everyone in popular Christian worship as genuine just because they “sound anointed”.
Jesus said what He said in Matthew 7:21-23 is there for a reason.
Dante is anointed. He has a mighty call on his life. If he didn't, the enemy would not be trying to take him out.
@@cdlang10 many will say in that day Lord Lord, but He will say depart from me you worker of iniquity, I NEVER knew you (Matthew 7). Who are those Jesus will cast away but did miracles and taught in His Name?
I have to give it to you this time bruh, "spot on" assessment of this situation. I loved your use of the word...."FLUFF" 🤣
Agreed about the shallow share. On Tim ross’ podcast this week he (or Lecrae?) said that your scars show others that their wounds can heal. Without raw authenticity we can only go so deep in our faith and community.
I love some Tim Ross! His perspective on things are always 🔥
@@emilyroberts7037 YES! Best pod on my subscription list by far.
@@Team_Blackledge I wish they’d make people listen to his podcast in all churches because his perspectives on things are just brilliant. I’m a reborn again Christian so I’m just now getting into reading everything and trying to retain and since I’m new I see so many issues in the church and he hits on it all and it comforts me knowing I’m on the right path. Him and his family are my ❤️
I’m sorry I got excited someone shared an interest lol adhd 🤣
@@emilyroberts7037 haha you’re in good company, you should hear me at my life group, I’m a walking talking advertisement for his podcast!!!
Phil Wickham’s team has entered the chat.
This conversation was executed so beautifully. I didn’t feel like anyone was being condemned, buuut I don’t think anyone was being coddled. Love it
Pray For The Brother, God Wants The People With The Dirty Past.
I still have a raised eyebrow as it pertains to Dante Bowe. I didn’t like how he wrote the apology and then took it down. I dont like how he got dropped from Mac City and then he goes on to say he’s taking time away from social media only to come back making more music a month later. This interview is definitely fluff. I really don’t like how he navigated the situation. No accountability at all.
It's not about what you don't like. It's not about you. It's about his relationship with God. You don't know what God is doing in his life. Pray for him and yourself.
This is just a question. But why do you feel like he has to address what he did in private to the public ? In terms of exposing what he did ? Like would you be satisfied if he said “I just fell into sin” or if he said “I did these specific things” ?
Paul said our scars are metals , let’s be transparent, it’s authenticity that wins the hearts of people
Ruslan!!! You're so close to 100k !!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!! 🥳🥳
First of that interview, was weird and seemed sus in so many ways that I will not mentioned. Who is john john being mentioned as an "angel?? I do pray for the brother and pray specifically for a spiritual father or mentor that will not flattery him but truly point him to the straight and narrow.
Great one Ruslan. Totally agree. Testimony needs to be heard.
Firstly, thank you for putting this out there 💕
I think Dante actually contradicted himself during the interview coz he said he had no one & that the producer basically chased him down & then at the end he said he was surrounded by friends etc the whole time.
I absolutely agree that it’s better to be open about what you’re going through, at least lyrically if you’re putting out music. People can read between the lines. The whole time it had me thinking about Matt Corby and how you can see his journey & ups & downs of faith through his music. It’s genuinely so evident. He just started releasing things again and people are saying they miss the old Matt when he was stuck in his dark season coz of the emotion but that negates the amount of healing he’s done and is just wild to think about as a response in my opinion.
Anyway, thanks for this! Keep up the amazing work!
Because he didn't take responsibility for his behavior or even acknowledge it, it will repeat itself. He refused to deal with his real struggles so in my opinion, the struggle is still there. However I am praying for him because he has an ugly problem but still has the ability to make good music. It reminds me of the man in scripture at the "gate called beautiful". The man was at a beautiful place with an ugly problem.
I don’t see growth, I see thirst.
Whew!
Dang yes amen I agree 100%
So many fire takes in this one. Appreciate you brothers. 💯🔥
Dante Bowe is sooo off my radar. His music is humanly inspirational, at best (like many other artists). He’s miscategorized….It’s obvious he’s scrounging for a platform with no Gospel piercing credibility. The bad bunny and lil nas stories ARE facts that show where he really is spiritually. There’s no surrender and dying to self here. Nothing new.
WOW. Thank God he's off your radar! And even more thanks that God hasn't given up on him yet! May God keep you standing till the end.
i don’t know if this is the best time to suggest this, i’m not trying to compare and contrast but since idk you personally, this is the only way i can suggest. would you look up Lawrence Oyor on YT. his music is not what anyone would describe humanly inspirational. really spirit filled. there’s also nathaniel bassey, dunsin oyekan, victoria orenze. their songs will bless you.
@@daramuzik8678 Stop the hypocrisy and repent
@@reesereserved very right....
@@reesereserved also sunmisola! 😬🙏🏽
I feel like we treat celebrities as if they owe us their entire life. They don’t I can appreciate art without knowing the artist. Yes, it may create a deeper connection to know a story, but they don’t owe it to us.
Dave Chapel would cut through the fluff with one look😂
Great piece on Dante guys, as I was listening to the piece, I was reminded of this scripture in 1 peter 5:9 Refuse to give in to the devil. Stand strong in your faith. You know that your Christian brothers and sisters all over the world are having the same sufferings. As children of God is incumbent on us, especially in this day and time to really guard our hearts because out of it flows the issues of life. Im convinced we're living in the darkest times ever, and its just going to get worse. Our evil world today makes Rome look like Childs play so the time for playing church is over. So I pray for my brethren's..... Also chew on this in Heb 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. Blessings my brothers and sisters
Great word!
I don't know that these are the darkest of days. I seem to read that a lot and wondered where or why they thought that. Yes we are getting closer to Jesus return but I would never day darkest if days. Why? Well I'm 55 and an educator and love history.. So With 3 adult sons now, I am thanking God I didn't live during the Vietnam days..Or WW2.. Vietnam and the 60's for African Americans in the south, were pretty bad days. Worse than I can imagine. I've read several stories about Veitnam, they kept sending more and more young men without the training they needed to fight in a gorilla war style that was hard and scary. Avg age was 19 to 21 I think. MANY DIED WAY TOO YOUNG. Several that lived had mental health problems anD physical health problems. YES they were trying to stop the spread of communism and still didn't win the war but communism stopped spreading. Still.. read up and know that these aren't the darkest of days. Our generation is ours. The internet and all the info we have at our hands, the world is overwhelming. Im a 50/ 50 believer. THAT means great access to awesome information and spreading the gospel is amazing. GOING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE OR using it to lie and stir up stuff or for even worse , is bad. We are all addicted too them too. Myself included. Also, I grew up in church ..A small church for years then moves my membership to a bit larger one when I had kids and another one after that. I know almost all hymns and I love contemporary Christian music too. Amy Grant was the 1st contemporary star in Christian I knew. BUT we didn't have all the klove and Christian songs access we do now. That is huge!! ❤❤❤ Cheer up! Rough times, yes , worst or darkest... No
I totally agree. When I heard this interview I felt sad. Anyway, hopefully he’s moving forward.
it’s never okay for a christian to get high or drunk and it’s even worse if you are a worship leader
Galatians 6:1. "Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in sin, those who LIVE BY THE SPIRIT, should restore that person gently....
We must always remember our efforts as true believers are to win souls for Christ and for the glory of God.
If gentleness is not in your heart remember to pray for yourself before you seek to correct others.
Dante does not owe anyone an apology. In the Christian Community, we tend to hold those who choose to glorify the name of God to a higher standard than the one we choose to hold ourselves accountable for. We need to worry about the plank in our eye before we try and tell someone else what they need to remove from The one that belongs to them. It does not matter what we do that pleases god; one day, we will still have to answer for the thing I did not please him.
Repent he does need to give his testimony
When you are in ministry, you are held to a higher standard, whether you like it or not. You are right, he doesn’t have to expose himself and confess to the whole world, but sweeping things under the rug is not the way to go about it as well.
Absolutely agree! I was just thinking, “he who has not sinned cast the first stone”.
My question to Dante Bowe…..Did you feel repentant at any point?, I struggle to enjoy worship artists who have personal life turmoil from their own poor choices, but are never on record acknowledging or repenting from that foolishness. Honestly the only artist I can think of off the top of my head that acknowledged their foolishness, claimed repentance, and came back was Tye Tribett.
lol. repenting on public is not important at all
@@mrbusymate8884 normally yes, but if you sinned publicly then you should repent publicly also, so you don’t become a stumbling block for others to fall into the same sin.
Especially if you are a leader in the body of Christ in the church or worship band. There is a higher standard for them and God will be harsher on them for taking his Grace for granted because their sin can cause others to stumble also.
@@samueljennings4809 just curious where in the Bible does he say he needs to repent publicly ? Isn’t repentance something that you do with God and Jesus? Why do we need a public apology ?
@@samueljennings4809 lol no he does not have to repent publicly what... this is a weird take. Its between him and The Creator not us
WE ARE NOT PERFECT!
Remember he is human we all make mistakes🤦🏽♀️
He still a man of God❤️🙏🏽
Ruslan’s face thumbnail pic, is literally me the entire time watching that interview. Cause what????
The word says, don’t judge lest you be judged take the log out of your own eye before you try and take this back out of someone else’s. We are all falling at one point or another and we need each other so lift each other up.
Everyone doesn’t have to know what happened, only those you’re accountable to. Then corrections can be made without all of the humiliation. We’re the modern day Church not the early Church. Mind your own business and keep unspotted from the world.
that is so true. i don’t think we should judge each other but love each other no matter what. we’re all brothers and sisters in christ who should love
To Zach’s question, I would say it’s okay if you learn from the origin of the song. Gotta remember that David only wrote the Psalams (which we consider worship) after the horrible sins he committed. So I don’t think origin is too important. Now obviously if they wrote a song while committing a sin then that’s a different story.
Great view point !
Only after sins??? Only psalm 51 comes to mind
@@samueltomjoseph4775 Did David not write Psalms while he was hiding from being hunted down? Which took place after he had committed adultery, had people killed, etc.
@EShmoney again that is still like one or two songs. The rest of the hiding songs he maintains innocence while calling thunder on his enemies, which is weird in Christian thought.
@@samueltomjoseph4775 Pardon, I’m confused what you’re getting at. Are you saying only 2 psalms are worship psalms, or are you saying he only wrote 2 while in hiding. Cause I can verify either or for you.
I think our struggles help others
Kindof crazy tho they let him go. But Maverick city was at the Grammys with all kindof secular music. Half naked woman. God bless them all.
I am deeply saddened by the attack on this man. We all have immense faults, we’re all a product of a fallen creation. Only one man was perfect and that was Jesus Christ. I think it’s helpful to remind the public of the truth about this matter, yet critiquing Dante for the mistakes he made hurts me. I know I have done such horrible things in my life, yet Jesus saved me and FORGAVE me every SINGLE time! It’s important to remember that even these UA-camrs have done horrible things due to our brokenness. We put so many sins on a pedestal, to make us feel better about our own. Even if Dante is lost in this moment we must SUPPORT HIM! Our fellow believer is struggling, and we push him away and use him to help our own sins. I feel for the state of the world. And I’m praying for all of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ:(❤
Side note on personal Christian songs: personal songs can be worship (the word worship also has only been linked to singing, yet we prescribe worth to god in manyyyy ways besides singing), I’ve been saved through a personal worship song depicting struggles in the artist’s pornography addiction (Shame by Andy Mineo)
Pray for him. Stop blasting and slandering. Lord, help the Church!
Yeah. I’m absolutely dropping a reaction video on this. Sheesh Dante. 🤦🏾♀️🙏🏾
Be reminded of David. He too had sinned terribly and from it still came psalms. Let us be less judgmental and support a brother to be better. God sees your own hidden sins.
Live in light! That’s the good way to roll homie
I Am on my kids always about this. It burdens my heart for people who don’t take accountability. It stunts growth and limits relationships.
I hear you on the need for him to expose his skulls as part of accountability but I believe people need time to heal and grow to that place of vulnerability. The best they do especially if they are public figures is mask it till when they are ready to openly share their struggles.
Let's give him abit of time.
Thank you. It's painful to see how it's expected to be an overnight thing. Whatever struggle he's in, didnt happen in 2 days. Healing, repentance and restoration happen on different speeds for different people. Why are we the very ones shooting our wounded soldiers? I didn't say condone, support or accept his error but his repentance or confession is not our right or entitlement. Those belong to Jesus. If I didnt shed my blood for him I have no right to demand that he repents and put the details of his mistakes in the newspapers, just so I can register it that he is now well behaved. I'm not even done trying to remember all the sin in my own life that I need to confess! Pray for him, pray for yourself. That you yourself not fall into sin coz you're busy minding someone else's. May God's grace abound for us all.
I was unaware of any of this because I hadn't been listening to the same music as I was a couple of years ago, Not on purpose, just different worship artists were coming across my feed. I awoke this morning and went outside to hear the birds chirpin' and thought of that line in the song The Voice of God and put it on. It was so awesome. I felt afterwards that the Lord wants me to remember Dante in prayer. Later this came up on my feed. I won't speculate. Now I know he was or is in a dark place. I will be praying for him (still). Thank you.
His current story reminds me of Jason Upton’s song “Dying Star”. Not sure if you’ve heard it @Ruslan, but the lyrics are 🔥 and a serious gut and heart check.
Jason Upton is hands down one of my favorite artists... amazing stuff
Love that song and love Jason Upton!!😩🙌🏽
Good response and insight Zack on Dante’s lack of depth, still recovering.
Brother, I am surprised at you. We are not glorifying God by rejoicing in tearing other brothers and sisters down. If you are following this guy, then you need to pray about who and what you are letting influence you other than Jesus.
@@cdlang10 why is it tearing him down if he is still processing? I lack depth myself many times when a trial or problem is still too fresh? How about yourself? Do you ever have total depth of understanding fresh from a hurt or trial? I think Zack helped us in that in helping us to know where Donte is, we can hopefully put ourselves in Donte’s shoes, at the least that what it did for me. I’m not tearing him down, I’m identifying with where he may be at, having and will be there myself in the future.
@@cdlang10 Christian’s are to hold one another accountable, so it’s either try to see why he didn’t address the problem from a gracious point, or assume he has decided to dismiss his involvement in these issues.
Absolutely no questions got answered… and if someone comes like a producer coming through with no questions “let’s just start making music” suspect to say the least… major L here. For both Dante and CBN… and the producer of the record.
Had the same thoughts watching the interview. Going out on your own shields you from responsibility and the mess of working out relationships. Rooting for Dante tho
Think about how much Psalms was written under not great circumstances David wrote a lot of that right after grave sin or trial
The real problem that we don’t address enough is the lack of accountability and discipleship exercised in these spaces *behind closed doors.* Who are these people’s Pastors? Is there a Leadership they are submitted to that’s shaping and speaking into their lives? Who are their mentors? Who are the people keeping them focused and accountable? People blow up so fast and all of a sudden feel like they are immune to sin. They get so wrapped up in their gift and popularity, and forget that they are still susceptible to sin and (public) failure if they are not nurturing their personal walk with Christ. 🤷🏽♀️
I think the fluff of contemporary Christianity is also in the fact of his separation from Maverick City. The church has been critiqued of being the only army which shoots its wounded. The brother fell and was unable to be restored to his crew/band/label. What does that communicate to the watching world we’re trying to reach with the gospel?
"He who is without sin let him throw the first stone." May we always be about lifting our brothers and sisters up in prayer and allowing God to do his good work in them.
After Job's friends put their 2 cents in during his storm in life, Job had to pray on their behalf before God would forgive them. For us, that is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who paid the debt we owed on the cross. May we pour grace on each other as our Lord has done for us. And continued to keep each other in prayer... for we all fall short of his Glory.
I'm sorry but using Job in this instance seems like a poor choice in light of the Truth. Mr. Bowe isn't defending his integrity, rather he's defending both his decision to hide his sin and, the pride in breaking free of Maverick City. Now, I'm not a Maverick City "fan" but as the partner that keeps another accountable they did the right thing. Mr. Bowe needs to own his mistake, repent and truly step out not just jump into a "new" phase of making music with a whole new team. It's a ridiculous representation in my opinion.
Is it just me or do I get a lot of feminine vibes. Very bizarre. 🤷🏻♂️
I really appreciate that you guys for the mist part stayed neutral in this conversation. It never felt like you were bashing him…simply speaking on situations
Have we all read Psalms and then the story of David? God makes all this beautiful in His time. And God makes all things work together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. He turns our mistakes to something useful for His kingdom.
Can we please let God do the judging and the rest of us stick to forgiving or not. 🙏🙏
He just needs to repent
Just look at what David wrote in the Psalms post his poor choices…. God can use us and poor choices/situations in spite of us. It may however disqualify us from leadership in ministry..
Salvation of the precious soul is more important to God than leadership in ministry
@@daramuzik8678 never had a question regarding his salvation. Have personally met Dante. Unfortunately, I have witnessed to many situations were personal indiscretions have disqualified leaders/worship leaders/pastors. Enemy desires nothing more than “to kill, steal and destroy”. If the enemy can trip up a leader he has a greater reach in the chaos that ensues… my heart goes out to Dante and the situation
Truth! God is gracious and forgiving and He will surely use our messes for His glory. BUT WE NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ACTIONS! If we don't, It's GRACE ABUSED!!!
I love your response to his question about what do you think about the song Dante made. Homeboy was speaking like he shouldn't have a chance to still be considered as a Christian artist. He needs to be careful with throwing stones. Your response was so perfect. Everyone is not brought up in easy homes, like myself. God works most in broken people. Thank God and I pray for Dante and for the other guy to see himself as a sinner and stop throwing stones.
When you guys were talking about great music or art coming from dark places, what came to mind was the book of Psalms. An unfortunate truth is that most humans learn how to be better humans from going through dark valleys whether they choose to believe in Jesus or not.
What r u talking about? Dante has shared his childhood trauma with other Christian networks. He has no obligation to talk about anything the doesn’t want to. He wants to move forward. I can only feel sympathy for Dante - nothing else
I don’t really follow artist like that but this was an interesting conversation. I did want to comment in regards to his song being classified as worship or making it into a worship playlist…I personally don’t think it’s any different than the guy from hillsong that faked cancer…that song was and still resonates with so many people despite the scandal wrapped around it. I personally didn’t know that there was a scandal with him or mavericks city (I also don’t necessarily listen to a lot of Christian music) and the song is definitely on my Sunday morning worship playlist
When we fall we have to repent, talk about it, apologized and humble ourselves before Almighty God and start a new .
What troubles me is he made an album when he was in a part of his life where he was walking in darkness practicing sin or was he in the light walking with Jesus? That’s sounds very murky.
Ohhhhhh!!!! Y’all are spot on! MCM looking crazy but your video finally makes sense
I couldn’t even watch that full interview when it dropped 😂 there’s no accountability or explanation. I’ll pray for him though.
i don't understand how church people wants to look and act secular and then get all rowdy if a "celebrity worship singer" does something that they say it's inappropriate behavior. This is hypocrisy to the fullest.
To the question about music being made from dark places… many of the psalms were made from terrible places, but the psalmist eventually turned to God and the truth of who He is.
I saw him at rock the universe Orlando last weekend and it felt like a performance and performance alone. The other artists made pauses and spoke to the crowd about Jesus, read a verse, you know they became a bridge and connected us to the Holy Spirit or tried to anyway. But Dante was there to perform his songs and that’s it. It’s like he was trying to avoid any space between songs to make any connections at all. Sad
It may be that he is still hurt
@@tabithaThabieybut he seems all smiles and excited here or is he just putting on a mask?
@@josiah8351 That guy needs help. Those smiles don't last beyond the camera. He's just struggling to keep it together, it happens to public figures, christian or otherwise. I am just hoping there's someone somewhere that's genuine, that has his ear and can be a guide and cover for him, before it's too late. He'll find his way back to Jesus.
Honestly if a brother is in error then pray for him. We are all capable of falling or going wrong. He needs prayer. What he doesn’t need is to be shut out. The enemy will fill the gap. If he isn’t being authentic or honest the pray for him. Not my job to judge him,it is my job to commit him to prayer and leave the rest up to God.
Dante used to carry such a pure, tender , presence of God and vulnerability, he seems to have lost that .
It feels like a song , not worship I don’t feel the connection at all.
I totally agree with you on this.
🔥 🔥 great analysis
You said this is not how you “lean into a hard conversation.” I think this is the problem with many Christians today as we don’t know how to have hard conversations. Being real and taking responsibility is seen as being weak. Confronting someone is seen as being toxic. We just need to flip that script and stop letting culture drive our actions and let our fear of God drive our actions.
“It’s funny them same wrongs helped me write this song”
- Touch The Sky by Kanye West
ONE OF THE ONLY THINGS THIS GUY SAID THAT I AGREE WITH WAS WHEN HE SAID "I DONT KNOW HIM." YOURE RIGHT. GODS HIS JUDGE. EVERYBODY CAN SAY SOMETHING TILL THEY HAVE TO SIT IN THE HOT SEAT THEMSELVES. GOD BLESS.
Do we really need to know the details of his failings? It's enough that Maverick said it was conduct. People just nosy.
What are the words which were muddled/unintelligible? (And is YT doing this? Are they censoring this?)
It happened three times- twice in reference to Dante’s leaked pics on social media, and once at the end- the host.
Please pray for Dante and speak to him directly instead of all this media criticism.
Thanks for your insight on this. Humility and vulnerability also get me to see God working in a person’s life, too. I like your take.👍