Archery | Buying an Olympic Bow (on a Budget)
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2013
- While many of us want that $1000 Hoyt or W&W, our first step into the archery world will probably be on a shoestring budget. Where can you cut costs in your first bow package?
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I love your "beginner" oriented videos, they're helping me identify a lot of weak spots in my form that I otherwise would have overlooked. This video in particular has been helpful; I had a salesman tell me that I NEED to have carbon arrows to start with or else I'd just wreck the aluminium ones in practice.
may have posted this seven years ago, but still great content. Thank you. I have found a new love for archery through your videos.
Great videos! I must say I love the way you explain things. Your videos answered several of the exact questions I had regarding beginning archery. Keep it up!
Just want to say thank you. Finally a helpful video that i've been looking for.
I took up archery just a month ago & immediately got hooked. Finding these videos incredibly helpful. Keep up the good work.
thank you so much for doing these videos, I've just took up a bow as a hobby in the states I don't plan to compete but your videos have shown me a lot so far and given me a good direction to go with what I am doing with my new hobby. please keep up the good work sir.
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Thank you very much for all your info. I have just purchased my first bow and did as you said with expensive riser, cheap limbs and will continue adding on as I go.
Very informative video for beginners, thanks NUSensei.
Awesome videos. Just starting in this sport. Thank you Sensei.
So basically, spend as much as you can on the riser, go cheap on everything else.
except maybe the sight.
Really good information you have given :). Great video!
I've bought a few bows now, and only been shooting for about 3-4 months. The one I am in love with now, is a Galaxy Crescent 25" riser that was $80 off of Lancaster, and its just around 2 lbs which is light. Hoyt 840 grand prix limbs that were $280, a $20 plunger, $20 arrow rest, a $30 balance rod with weight. The draw weight is 38 lbs which works for me. Started out with a cheapo bow from Wish, and cheap arrows, and that was fun, but only for a week or two. Got some better "real" arrows and that made a ton of difference. Then moved on to a nice Fleetwood wooden take down recurve which again was a huge step up. Shot my Cartel riser with Kaya limbs, which was OK, again going to the Hoyt limbs was a very different feel. The Kaya limbs are snappy and work well, just felt the Hoyt was smoother in a way. Anyhow, my 2 cents. Thanks NuSensei for great videos!
I got the Galaxy Crescent
bow from Lancaster, tooo.
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thanks nu sainsai for your great work
FANTASTIC advice!
Very helpful! Thank you, Sensei.
I use a camel-pak back as my quiver for hunting, my friend pulled all the materials and bladder out of it and had sewn on some dark camouflage that fits my area where I hunt and I have the chest clip around my waste the straps around my legs onto an angle where it looks much like a target quiver that you would see someone wearing. It does everything fine for me, I have the zipper tied at a certain point so it doesn't slide down from the arrows bouncing while I'm walking which also keeps them quite I shoot a long bow hence why I don't have one on the side of my bow.
Love this. Good intelligent advice.
I just bought my first bow a week ago :) I tested it and I love it! It's a Metal Recurve bow and I bought it for roughly 350$
I'm very happy with it and it will do good for me for atleast 2 years :)
I bought a PSE Razor back for my first bow. I love it . its recently been replaced. but I still use it and love it . it was only 99$
I think ur right for sure.. I cant tell u how many times I chooses to get aa cheap whatever right at the moment and then later on just buying the more $$$ one that I should of just held off ,saving to get.......
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Thanks man. Im enlightened
I bought
Grans prix epik with wns limbs.
Looking for wiawis sight and titan pin.
Then will change later on.
You gave me new hobby thx sensei
NuSensei, do you have a thought on SAS Spirit bow? Any good for a beginner? Thank you.
it's still applicable over time... tq for sharing, and how about skills according to the quality of equipments? does low skill + high quality equipment = high skill + cheap equipments ?
I happened to go the used route. Idk about buying used from a store, but a reputable friend happened to be selling his old bow. I got a Samick Athlete riser, limbs, sight, plunger, chest guard, bow sling, finger tab, bow stringer, stand, and case for $300. I'm no expert, but if you have a trusted source to buy from, I would recommend it. My experience, at least, has been pretty good.
I payed 160 bucks for the whole bow and it works great 👍
Care to share the name?
Snake
Name is not important, 25lbs barebows (without gadgets like sights, stabilizers etc) cost around 100-150$ and can get you into shooting. Those usually dont even have option for gadgets anyway.
Mine had Core HIT limbs but also I heard that SF OPTIMO+ is good.
Great info! Thanks again :)
thanks BROTHER. helpful video
I agree with this video nearly 100%. I pretty much bought my gear in the same order even before I watched his video. SF Forged+ riser, SF carbon/wood limbs, cheap fivics scorpion sight etc.
Entry-level relative costwise for beginner:
Riser $$$
Limbs $($)
String $
Arrows $($)
Sight $
Yes that was helpful Thankyou.
hi Nu sensei, i'm new in archery and i like to have my own equipment. and i want to ask for your opinion. is the WW Rapido 68" set is a good bow for beginer like me? or just jump to WW CXT 68" like your bow? and is there any way to change your draw weight in a same bow like from 20lb to 30lb to 40lb and so on? and how to do that? thank you
Really great, interesting videos. However, I went a different road. You can also cut costs by buying used items. If you are in a good archery forum, there is not much risk of getting bad items. After having decided what I wanted (and I did a lot of research, both real life and online), I was lucky enough to find a high-end riser, stabilizer system and sight. As being a skilled leather crafter, I made the quiver myself. I started with beginner arrows and rented my limbs first. Now I got my final limbs and arrows, on which I was willing to spend a fortune and did exactly that. Now I am almost absolutely happy (exception being my bow carrier). Nothing really satisfying on the market. So I am also trying my hands on modifying one.
Especially with modern equipment, it's rare for a bow to be in bad condition, and second-hand bows are practically as good as they were brand new, but with a few nicks and scratches. Archers tend to have a lot of stuff lying around over the years and getting your hands on a second-hand buy is almost as good as buying brand new, for a much lower price.
Very helpful indeedies
Haha, just seen this! Great advise.
Thank you so much. That was wery helpfull for me.:-)
what would you recommend for an 11yr old compound bow
I have a cheap bow with a very light draw weight. Its a recurve bow. So do you think getting new wings (not sure the exact term) and a string would do? I want something with a little punch.
What do they put in the making of a riser to make it the price of a rifle ?
Shimaqan a rifle
Carbon fiber, titanium, lots of QA and low manufacturing tolerances.
And an only moderate amount of demand.
For the price of a glock you can get a nice longbow
Also for the price of a glock, you can get an Olympic sight
Or, 11 high points
I agree. seriously, what's that important about the tolerances on a bow? if a rifle bore is +/- 0.05mm it will have a serious effect on the accuracy. Can you really say the same of sight and limb mounting points on a riser?
It’s Olympic level bows. If you wanted to hears words of reasonability you wouldn’t have clicked on this video.
I'm not sure how common this is other places of the world, but here in germany you can actually rent a bow. You get an ok bow including a cheap sight, arrow rest, stabilizer and button. Of course you have to buy some stuff, like quiver, tab and the arrows. So, to get started you spend about 250€ of which are about 90 € rent for half a year. Also you can exchange the limbs for a small fee.
This is imho the best option for beginners, if available.
what would be a good 200- 300 riser? because I searched on 3 rivers archery on risers but it was no help at all
Okay as funny as it sound if I bought a metal riser and limbs would it be best for outdoor hunting or should I just get the vista / simick sage? hahaha
what riser would you recommend for around 300 to 400 bucks?
Hi new sub here love your videos helped me a lot during lockdown to learn and starting with a lot of knowledge at my local club .Now here in UK I find that non ILF risers and limbs are way cheaper in specialist archery shops to the point of assemble a recurve Olympic for less than £ 300 does it matter if is not ilf ?
WNS delta LX is good riser, affordable, not die cast aluminum but from forged aluminum..offer high stiffness, stability, can take more than 40 pound limbs, not too expensive like any other forged riser..
is SDL-TZXL-BLACK recurve bow good??
with a 28.5" DL , what would make a competition Recurve BareBow setup?
Thanks a lot, this video is helpful =)
lol sights, I never got using sights I usually just aim on impulse and if I know where the target is I can easily hit it by closing my eyes and then taking my aim (be it bow gun throwing knife or rock), i guess it's because when me and my friend's as kids played war most of the time I didn't have time to focus on aiming so I just learned to hit whatever I was looking at
I have been shooting traditional archery (no arrow rest with thumb draw) for about a year and I am pretty good at it. BUT I have no experience with recurve or compound. I want to start olympic recurve. Any advice what where I should spend money on it where I can save a bit? Or products you can recommend? I am prepared to spend up to 1500 Dollar on the set.
Is compound bare bow shooting a thing?
Thank you for the informative videos! Word is spreading they were recommended to me by someone starting in archery. I am starting very soon by shooting with club gear but I will be fortunate to have a budget of around $800 to start off with.
With this budget I am still confused by what brands would be good to invest in and what i should avoid due to conflicting information on google. Can you recommend anything? I noted you mentioned the Win & win brand?
I have spoken to the local archery shop and quiet frankly was not overly satisfied and found your videos more informative and not overwhelming.
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My apologies, with so many good videos i hadnt got to that one yet :)
I recently bought Ragim Matrix Evo which cost me around 84€ which is around a bit over 100usd, and it works like a charm
hey nu sensei i have about $400 for a bow and am looking to get into Olympic archery so would you recommend I get an ILF bow with a $300 riser and $100 limbs or go $200 and $200
How are the Hoyt Satori risers? I think their about $450 if im not mistaken
What type of bow is that in the video
I have no idea where to buy a riser that has the potential of being used with high quality limbs.
I want to purchase but how I can purchase ?
I'm more interested in traditional field archery with an English longbow, the best I've found are Bickerstaffe who have a very good reputation, their most expensive range is £650, their beginners bows being no more than £300. Is this good enough and would it be a bad idea for me to later make my own bows when I'm at a slightly more advanced level of experience?
It's a sound plan. You don't need an expensive longbow to start off with. Get yourself into shooting and you'll find that the rest of the journey will become clearer to you.
I was wondering. If I buy an entry bow like a SF Optimo+ can i later upgrade to ILF limbs? Or it wont fit and should I buy an entirely new bow instead when i got better
The SF Optimo+ is not an ILF bow and is not compatible with ILF limbs. You will need to buy a whole ILF bow if you choose to start with the Optimo+.
NUSensei oh I see. Thanks man
Can you put any limbs on any riser, or in order to fit it needs to be the same brand?
Risers and limbs marked as ILF (International Limb Fitting) are compatible, otherwise risers generally can only accept their own limbs.
I am planning to buy the PSE compound bow stinger x RTS as beginning bow both for hunting and at the club good choice or not?
The PSE Stinger X is OK for a starting compound. it does the job for a budget price.
My first bow was a PSE Surge and that is downright awesome.
Do you think that primal gear unlimited suvival bow is good?
I personally find survival bows to be somewhat gimmicky. But, if that's your kind of thing, I don't anything to say about the Primal Gear Unlimited bow. I haven't seen it.
Alright thanks for your response.
The style of archery one choose makes a great difference in the budget Trad or Barebow are budget friendly Horse bow is even cheaper and if you have a good mate that really knows, second hand is a good option as many start and quit soon after beside you can also upgrade an old bow to your size and taste
+andreas the apex blizzerd is very good for 300
Best quiver I made when I was a kid was made from a Pringles Stax container. Of course it would be embarrassing going to an archery range with that thing as an adult haha
I am starting competition archery soon can I use my #45 take down bow?
As long as it meets the equipment rules in the competition, yes.
Hello :) I'm a 21 year old male and haven't done any archery... but im looking into it... the one bow i found is within my budget... what do you think of the "Easton Beginner Recurve Bow Kit - 52'' Black" I just want to shoot targets with my girlfriend nothing for competition or hunting.
One of our junior archers has the kit. It's utterly simple. It shoots, but nothing to say about it beyond that. It's more suited for kids than adults. For adults, I would recommend a traditional wooden recurve like the Samick Polaris over this kit.
ok thank you very much! :D
i use a wood mongolian recurver bow that cost me 50 bucks on eBay it has 50ib draw weight good for practice if you can shoot with that you can shoot with anything
What about longbows
Was checkin out takedown bow prices(good brands), kinda shocked at how expensive they were. Once currency exchange is taken to account, a roughly US$200 would cost well over 1000 for me.
I've just started on archery and I'm planning to use standard club bows for awhile at least until I can shoot properly, but I'm planning to buy my first bow for future use. Problem is there are no nearby archery stores in my area. The nearest one is in the next city with limited stock and overpriced items (really overpriced, it's cheaper to buy online and ship it from Australia or US than buying in that store).
Thing is my relatives from Australia are going to visit me in about 2 months so I've been thinking to ask them to buy the bow for me. I've made plans for it but I am not sure at what poundage should I buy my first limbs set. I'm currently using a 20 lbs bow at the club, but I'm not sure how much stronger I'll be (or even any stronger at all) in 2 months. What are your opinions ? What poundage was your first limbs set ?
+Surya Adiwena My first bow was a 34#. If you've been using 20# bows, I suggest you start at around 24#, which would be reasonable for you to become familiar with. You could get 30#, but depending your strength you may have to do more work to become comfortable at that draw weight, which will affect your development.
+NUSensei Thank you for your opinion :)
After a few weeks of training I can now use 24# limbs comfortably. I am quite surprised by this progress but glad I hadn't purchased my bow yet. Maybe I did the shooting technique wrong a few weeks ago so the draw felt much heavier.
Anyways, in my situation since there are no good archery stores nearby I plan to buy intermediate riser (SF Forged +), cheap limbs, and high end accessories (Sights, Plunger, Clicker). It's a bit different from what you suggested in your video (you suggested to get a good riser first, then sights, and limbs), since I think high end risers all have excellent performance and which one works best for me depends on my personal preference. Because I currently don't have the time to travel overseas and visit an archery store, I think I'll get my "good" riser later when I have the time to go and try out different risers. What are your opinions ? Should I just read some reviews and get "good" bare bow like you suggested ?
If I wanna start with metal riser rather than wooden, it it ok for me or not... and is it called a riser or some thing else
Imean the part you hold on to
It's fine to start with a metal riser.
+NUSensei thanks... I was juat confused beacuse my contry gets really wet at least 4 months and the wood might not be perfect as I tend to forget things outdoors a lot like my skateboard which didnt even last a whole year
Hey i'm just wondering if you have an apex hunting store near where you are. There is one here in Queensland and i was wondering if you had one in your state. If so, what is your opinion of them.
I don't think there's one here. I imagine most of their sales are online though. Apex is a common budget brand that many people buy as an entry point, but it's not otherwise held in high esteem by more serious archers. Most archery stores don't have partnerships with Apex.
ok thanks for the insight
nu sensei, a beginner should start with recurve or compound bow?
Recurve. But, if you're actually buying a bow, the decision is a bit different. It's easier to learn archery form with a recurve, but if you have to choose between compound and recurve for the one bow you buy, go for the one you intend to shoot. Compounds are easier to pick up and become accurate with, as it is more forgiving than a recurve. It's also easier to fall into bad habits, however, if you don't know what you're doing.
i got the budget to get a recurve but i wish to go for a compund.....i had a few practice session using recurve, it's tiring when aiming...i wish to get something that is easy to handle....quite a hard decision to make
..i just got my first bow ... i paid 180$ whit some arrows loll , and man im having a blast !!!!
I'm very new to the sport, based in south eastern melbourne and looking to learn the right way from the beginning. Looking for a student?
I run a club on the west side. Though you're welcome to join us, there are more clubs in the east and southeast side. Moorabbin Archery Club is the largest one in that area. There's also AIM Archery in Cheltenham, Phoenix Archery Club in Berwick, Frankston Archery Club, and Waverley City Archers in Mulgrave. Check the Archery Victoria website for clubs and contact numbers.
So, I am tall with long arms and the rental bows at the club are mostly 66" and only one 68". I just ordered a 70" so that I could be assured a bow my size every time I went for lessons, open shoot, and club competitions. 25" riser on clearance, long 24# limbs (plenty for 18m indoor target) about $110 USD delivered to Canadar.
Inexpensive does not ALWAYS mean cheap, it should cover my needs for a year or two
Go take lessons kids
if a bow is under 200 and metal is it better to go for the metal as it won't vibrate as much or will it be so bad quality metal you might as well go for wood.
I've been wanting to get into archery since forever, but as you said, I am in college and money is not really flowing in.
I was considering buying this kit to start with and see how I like the sport and if I have enough time and enthusiasm to pursue it:
www.merlinarchery.co.uk/first-shot-archery-kit-adult-gent-right-handed.html
What are your opinions? It's really cheap so I'm skeptical.
Michael Scott The kit is a good one for your first experience in owning a bow. The bow itself is standard club equipment - Merlin used to sell the SF Optimo+, but they package equivalent bows depending on what they have in stock and they're mostly the same.
He described ,e perfectly in the beginning
any good ambidextrous risers you recommend?
None. Go for the hand you shoot with
Getting an ambidextrous bow just for playing around though maybe, get something cheap
Im just a student who depend on allowance which 60 dollar a month and got myself a good new barnett vortex hunter
Can someone please help me. I am a first time bow buyer and I want a recurve. He described buying the individual parts. I have been searching online and I can't find a place that sells limbs and risers sepretly
Literally every archery store sells risers and limbs separately, though it may have to do with what kind of bow you are buying. If you are buying a cheap wooden recurve, they're usually sold as a set. If you're buying Olympic-style target recurves, they're sold separately.
I don't want an Olympic style now. I'm just looking for a bow that I can shoot it my backyard, just for fun
Then if you're looking for a basic takedown recurve, like the Samick Sage, the limbs *don't* come separately. These recurves use their own limbs and can't be swapped out for with other models.
Would buying a used bow be a good idea. It wont be my first bow but it will be my first 600-900cad(I live in Canada dollars not good).
Used bows are very good. You can get good bows for good prices, usually with only superficial scratches. Modern bows don't deteriorate with age, so you're safe in buying used.
thank you, I just need to find one that dosn't have a 60# draw weight.
could a beginner start archery with a compound bow???
Yes. Nothing wrong with going straight to compound. The reason why clubs and beginners use recurves is because they are simpler and require no personalisation. Additionally, beginners find it easier to pay attention to form, while the compound bow does a lot of the work for you.
what brand do you prefer for beginners??????
SF is very popular for beginners. Their risers come with a rest and plunger, so they're a bit friendlier for the new buyer.
Master, what is the difference between a target and hunting bow?
Target bows are designed specifically for Olympic-style competition. They're bigger, heavier and feature long stabilisers for accuracy over long distance.
Hunting bows are meant for the field and are more compact.
They are also different in draw weight. target bow is usually around 40-50lbs. Hunting bows usually around 60-70lbs. But that's not to say you can't hunt using target bow or shooting competition with a hunting bow.
Just start with a Samick Sage and some Easton powerflights!
If you're "just looking for a bow", that's an economical choice. However, if you're looking at taking up archery as a sport, I wouldn't advise getting the Sage. There isn't any progression from the Sage, whereas even a cheap take-down bow is modular. Additionally, using an Olympic-style take-down bow allows you to use attachments such as the clicker, which you can't on a wooden riser.
While getting a wooden bow is affordable for most, I often find that new archers will move on within several months. It's a line between having a bow or saving up a bit more money for a full kit.
NUSensei I started off with the Sammick Sage and scored 4th and 1st at regionals, then I moved onto the SF forged+...
I figured if I got the SF forged a year earlier maybe I could've placed 1st and 1st...
the win and win rapido rizer is a good rizer or not
It's a good riser.
thank you
the hoyt horizon is better compared to the win and win rapido
I'm thinking about buying a compound bow with components, I have about 330 dollars to spend. Do you have any brands or bows to recommend? Thx.
I don't work with compounds, so I'm not the best person to ask.
NUSensei Oh ok thanks anyways.
NUSensei Actually, do you know anyone who uses compounds that I could ask?
I know a lot of people who work with compounds. However, if you're looking for a centralised place of knowledge, you may want to go to an online forum, such as Archery Talk or Reddit.
NUSensei Ok, I'll look there, thanks for the help!
Isn't the samick sage a really good bow and it's only like $300
The Samick Sage is cheaper than that. However, we're talking about competitive target bows.
+NUSensei oooh k thank for clearing that up
Interesting...
That’s it, I’m making a witches hat quiver in the morning.
😂 lol
Witch's Hat is those
traffic cones made of orange plastic
which are there to protect labourers from cars etc.
plz help me I want to get into Archery and I have seen a boy called sas robinhood LongBow if I am not mistaken it's hybrid boy and I have never used a boy I am 16 years old Draw Length: 22-29"
Draw Weight: 30-35 lbs
Bow Length: 59-1/4"
Max Speed: 150 FPS
the details of the bow plz tell me should I buy this?
Spamming my channel will not get a helpful answer.
I would not recommend buying a bow if you do not know what you are doing.
It's the same advice I give to most people. If you don't know what you're doing, buying a bow should be the last thing you do. Go to a club, get some lessons in, and find people who can guide you in the right direction. Otherwise, you may end up tearing a muscle and breaking a law.
AlexRoyalGamer 16 years old , Minecraft profile picture and cant even spell properly. lame
Nice video, honest opinion. But what are you really getting when paying 500$ more on a riser ? A 300$ riser nowadays has all the fittings and adjustments one needs so apart from a funky paintscheme, where does a 800$ riser make the difference ? Apart from in your budget... ;)
The cheaper risers tend to feel chunkier and less balanced, and they don't feel as "sensitive" to the archer. A more expensive riser can squeeze out more speed from the same limbs and arrows and will feel better in the hand. Quality and finish are also factors in the higher end. Then there's a lot of engineering jargon that gets through at you for the top products. How much they matter depends on the skill of the archer.
hmmmm feel like getting into archery after one session lol
Really not a "beginner" bow. Beginners really don't go for Olympic grade gear. Sammick offers a huge range of bows, beginning with the Polaris (max 40# limbs) - you can get a full set up for $150 or less ( in the US ). The Sage is a bit higher for about the same price (just the riser, limbs and string) with a greater maximum limb weight. Basic gear is a bow glove or tab ( I like the glove), string nock point, and an arrow rest (on the bow). A matched set of aluminum or carbon arrows (recommend 24) and somewhere to shoot, and something to shoot at.
The advice in this video is not aimed at the entry-level archer, but rather for people who have already decided to go down the path of sport archery and who are investing in their first target setup (and in many cases, they already own a basic takedown recurve or are using club equipment).
Otherwise, yes, a bow like the Samick Polaris, Samick Sage, and others like them are very popular for people just getting into archery. As a club though, we already have these bows, so we often encourage our archers to skip this step, unless they just want a cheap bow to practise with.
hello, first nice video you have a new follower. Second im starting in this sport, what about the samick privilege? i dont want to buy a bow that will be useless in a few months
NahuelCococcia For starters, the riser is only 23", so you may end up having a smaller bow unless you get longer limbs (depending on what you need for your draw length). The Samick Privilege looks OK for a starter bow, but this depends on your archery goals. If you already have the mindset of wanting to compete, you may want to skip this level and go upmarket. I'd say the Samick Privilege is not a bow that will lead onto better "upgrades" should you wish to progress down that line.
NUSensei ty for the answer, i want to compete, so what bow do you say will be a good option?
This strongly depends on your budget and what looks and feels good to you.
NUSensei 250 U$S
Watching this video in 2019
85% of my gear is used@half the price: winstorm2 LH, RH. Winstorm LH, Kap evo2 RH.
From my limited experience, most major brand bows with wooden riser is MORE accurate than what a beginner can shoot. start with a low cost +165.00 Samick recurve or equivalent brand.
Unless you really want your own a bow just to shoot recreationally, I don't recommend getting wooden recurves. Part of this is because clubs and ranges will probably have wooden recurves for hire, so it's pointless in some cases. I'd only get one if you're not particularly serious about archery. As long as you match your arrows with the bow, it'll shoot fine.
Why If I'm an instinctive shooter? Do I need sights?
No, you wouldn't need sights.
NUSensei
hay what riser and limbs do you use?
Inno CXT with EX Power limbs.
No :)