Progressive Christians Are The Modern Sadducees: The Mark Series pt 48 (

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  • I'm amazed at the similarities that exist between modern progressive Christians and the Sadducees in the gospels. I'm even more amazed at how Jesus' roasting of the bad theology of the Sadducees applies to modern liberal theologians and progressives in general. Disclaimer: I am talking about religious progressives or liberal theology, not politics. It's true that those who have liberal theology tend to have liberal politics but they aren't the same thing.
    In this continuing series through the Gospel of Mark we will see how Jesus brilliantly refutes the Sadducees (and progressives and even Mormons) and we'll learn how we can better identify and not fall victim to the tactics that liberal teachers often use to get us to abandon biblical truth. Man, I love this series and love how applicable it is in our lives today!
    This is part 48 of a verse by verse study through the Gospel of Mark.
    See the WHOLE Gospel of Mark playlist here • The Gospel of Mark Ser...
    HERE is me dealing with a popular progressive/liberal Christian teacher named Brian Zahnd. This may be my BEST example of how to notice and combat the common tactics of progressives who sadly twist the heart of Christianity and do so in the name of Christ. • Brian Zahnd's False Go...
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  • @MikeWinger
    @MikeWinger  3 роки тому +222

    This may be my BEST example of how to notice and combat the common tactics of progressives who sadly twist the heart of Christianity and do so in the name of Christ. ua-cam.com/video/QUNdh1u6774/v-deo.html

    • @closerthanabrother9703
      @closerthanabrother9703 3 роки тому +6

      Hey mike! Just wanted to say hi. Love you brother and appreciate your passion for sharing the truth - Joe

    • @closerthanabrother9703
      @closerthanabrother9703 3 роки тому +6

      More than that, I guess it’s your affinity for intellectual honesty that is most alluring to me over the years I’ve been listening to your channel 👍😊

    • @TheChurchSplit
      @TheChurchSplit 3 роки тому +3

      Thanks Mike!

    • @tolerantindividual1126
      @tolerantindividual1126 3 роки тому +18

      Hey mike, You appear to be very well read.
      Do you think you could do a video on books you would recommend to Christians.
      I’ve just got through one of Timothy Keller’s books, and I’m thinking of converting to Christianity.

    • @kristopherhayes1957
      @kristopherhayes1957 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you for the video! It is very informative. Can you do one about feminism and whether or not it's compatible with Christianity?

  • @TC_Personal
    @TC_Personal 3 роки тому +1092

    I'm a Deist, and I hardly ever watch Bible talks, but this seemed highly informative so I stuck around. I have to say, you drew a direct correlation from my beliefs to the beliefs of the Sadducees, and now I have to examine the scripture and myself to find out what I believe, yet again. Thanks for the enlightenment, I really appreciate Christians who let their message reach other ears in a tolerant way.

    • @websterbrandcoaching9724
      @websterbrandcoaching9724 3 роки тому +60

      Tyler I love how clear and articulate you are here. Thank you for sharing your journey and being so open. I believe you will find what you are looking for!

    • @livingpicture
      @livingpicture 3 роки тому +28

      Good for you! Would that we all are as willing as you to reexamine beliefs and be sure of what and why we believe. Thanks for sharing!

    • @benjivilla970
      @benjivilla970 3 роки тому +13

      Good stuff, I hope to always be as willing to be uncomfortable with my beliefs as you are

    • @beezyhimmyneutron
      @beezyhimmyneutron 3 роки тому +3

      If you need someone to help you reach christ you can pm me I have a group chat on IG where we all help each other stay on track with gods word

    • @oscarwong4201
      @oscarwong4201 3 роки тому +1

      What is a deist?

  • @bradhamilton8542
    @bradhamilton8542 3 роки тому +1303

    The Sadducees did not believe in resurrection. Thats why they were sad, you see.

    • @MikeWinger
      @MikeWinger  3 роки тому +475

      I can’t believe I forgot to tell that joke! I’ve failed as a pastor! Haha

    • @bradhamilton8542
      @bradhamilton8542 3 роки тому +105

      @@MikeWinger 😂 We got your slack.

    • @ardilla4033
      @ardilla4033 3 роки тому +17

      Paging Jon Courson 😂

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 роки тому +37

      Goodness. You are a true dad.

    • @bradhamilton8542
      @bradhamilton8542 3 роки тому +42

      @@toomanymarys7355 while I am a dad and very commonly spit the dad jokes, this one is a pretty well known joke that i can't take credit for.

  • @justkenzie
    @justkenzie 3 роки тому +699

    "We don't know how sinful we really are in the same way a fish doesn't know how wet it is."
    -Pastor Paul Washer

    • @dsheppard8492
      @dsheppard8492 3 роки тому +7

      That is a load of crap

    • @justkenzie
      @justkenzie 3 роки тому +50

      @@dsheppard8492 We're born into the cesspool of sin, therefore we need to be awakened and pulled out by One who is transcendent. Enter, Christ Jesus, the sinless Messiah.

    • @dsheppard8492
      @dsheppard8492 3 роки тому +2

      @@justkenzie I agree. Paul washer is full of it. That was my comment.

    • @jermoosekek1101
      @jermoosekek1101 3 роки тому +4

      @@dsheppard8492 why

    • @sarahfankhauser955
      @sarahfankhauser955 3 роки тому +8

      @@dsheppard8492 in 2 timothy 4:18 Paul writes “the Lord will deliver me from every evil deed and will bring me to safety to His heavenly kingdom; to Him be the glory forever and ever, Amen” if Paul saw himself as one who does not sin, from what would the Lord deliver him from? If we also read Romans 7:25-8:2 “ thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the spirit of life in Jesus Christ has set you free from the law of sin and of death” These texts are from the beginning and the end of Paul’s ministry and it is consistent that the flesh is recognized and also forgiven in Christ. If evil was gone from Paul why would he speak of the law of the flesh on one hand after glorifying the Lord for his salvation? The evidence of salvation is in the fruits of the spirit not a sinless flesh, being made a new creature as men of whom the Holy Spirit dwells within, ministering and interceding for us. But so long as we remain in this body until we die, sin still remains, however there is no longer condemnation in Christ

  • @safarityler
    @safarityler 2 роки тому +47

    I love this channel. I used to procrastinate by watching vapid and empty youtube channels, and now I am finding myself clicking on Mike's thumbnail and getting spiritually fed. Basically I'm saying he's spiritual click-bait and it's awesome.

  • @Dan-jh3qf
    @Dan-jh3qf 3 роки тому +121

    “You’re just supposed to abandon your religious beliefs, because you were given a hard question.” -- I’m so thankful I found this video today; yesterday I saw a video where a “progressive Christian” and a “conservative Christian” are having a debate on homosexuality and other heated topics in modern culture as they relate or ‘dont’ relate to the Bible... the progressive pastor seems to have abandoned a lot of sound biblical teaching as “unable to be true”. It left me not with answers for what he thought, but with “HARD QUESTIONS” about our faith. This video shed so much light on that. Thank you so much.

    • @billyg898
      @billyg898 3 роки тому +13

      As Cameron at Capturing Christianity regularly tries to remind people: Questions are not arguments.

    • @fredarroyo7429
      @fredarroyo7429 3 роки тому +6

      Yup sowing doubt is not refutation. But its an opportunity to streghten what you believe.

    • @dr.graves5541
      @dr.graves5541 3 роки тому

      @@fredarroyo7429 Yup, showing how religious people cause people to commit suicide should only make you be even more religious...

    • @fredarroyo7429
      @fredarroyo7429 3 роки тому +9

      @@dr.graves5541 but you have zero .evidence for that and we have much evidence to show the.contrary

  • @dariusg7044
    @dariusg7044 3 роки тому +173

    2nd Timothy 3 talks about people "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof." That's what a lot of this reminds me of.

    • @bethanykmyers
      @bethanykmyers 3 роки тому +2

      Yes, this is exactly what came to my mind as well!

    • @markspears1167
      @markspears1167 3 роки тому

      @Morgh123, I am a Christian and an American and I share your thoughts exactly.

    • @clark987878
      @clark987878 3 роки тому +1

      100% perfect example

    • @LukeVidler
      @LukeVidler 3 роки тому

      2 Timothy was written by somebody pretending to be Paul. So you believe in a book that is fraudulent from the get go

    • @edtachiri
      @edtachiri 3 роки тому +4

      @@LukeVidler please provide sources that re reliable

  • @presidentelecttaterpuddin1626
    @presidentelecttaterpuddin1626 3 роки тому +63

    Can’t believe I never knew of this channel. This perfectly summarizes the issues I have with most modern day Christians and how most seem to understand the Bible.

  • @matthewcraig8926
    @matthewcraig8926 3 роки тому +346

    It's amazing when I talk to progressive Christians how many times they come back at me with either foul language or mean spirited name calling, or both. That spirit in them does not like being questioned or exposed, and they counteract violently. It blows me away every time.

    • @jenniferwise8515
      @jenniferwise8515 3 роки тому +52

      They may be religious but Yeshua Jesus followers they are not. The TONGUE reveals the heart.

    • @woobiefuntime
      @woobiefuntime 3 роки тому +6

      @@jenniferwise8515 it depends because I'm religiously conservative but I have some progressive ideas around issues like criminal justice economics and the environment.

    • @jenniferwise8515
      @jenniferwise8515 3 роки тому +29

      @@woobiefuntime I am not talking politics. This is about a real transformative relationship. The religious take political sides. Have you noticed that Yeshua Jesus was outside of politics,?

    • @woobiefuntime
      @woobiefuntime 3 роки тому +5

      @@jenniferwise8515 yes. I have noticed that. I was talking about my relationship with jesus. I'm not fond of the churches that down place jesus

    • @bethanykmyers
      @bethanykmyers 3 роки тому +1

      Yes!!! It’s hard to know how to break through that wall.

  • @Scott-qg3ug
    @Scott-qg3ug 3 роки тому +59

    Wow, most sane analysis of what is happening today. History repeats because people forget the lessons learned in the past.

    • @talisikid1618
      @talisikid1618 3 роки тому +6

      More likely, they never even bother to learn history to begin with.

  • @Andy-gq5hb
    @Andy-gq5hb 3 роки тому +414

    The only thing I would feel comfortable debating Mike Winger on is his love for cats.

    • @gmarti2044
      @gmarti2044 3 роки тому +25

      He’d probably kill it on that debate too lol

    • @Andy-gq5hb
      @Andy-gq5hb 3 роки тому +10

      @@gmarti2044 you mean the cat? I don't know that I'd be able to get him that far in one debate but maybe after a few.

    • @SavannahSedai
      @SavannahSedai 3 роки тому +15

      You’d lose. That cat is toooooooo cute.
      Love, a cat owner who has a cat identical to Moxie 😂

    • @StephenLoney
      @StephenLoney 3 роки тому

      :D

    • @bobmanns3623
      @bobmanns3623 3 роки тому +14

      Cat lover here, I'm rooting for Mike on that debate!

  • @RiethAndal
    @RiethAndal 3 роки тому +58

    11 minutes into the video...
    The Sadducees actually sound like progressive Christians so much it's eerie

    • @MW66VB
      @MW66VB 3 роки тому

      it is too bad they were actually conservative jews who were rich and friendly with Rome

    • @doulos5815
      @doulos5815 3 роки тому +9

      @@MW66VB conservative jews were not allowed to be friends with rome

    • @andrewfortmusic
      @andrewfortmusic 3 роки тому +6

      @@MW66VB Not really; the Pharisees and Zealots were far more conservative (especially behaviorally) than the Sadducees. Not accepting non-Torah books is sort of like progressive Christianity not accepting the whole Bible because it doesn't all agree with their predefined worldview.
      They certainly were rich and friendly with Rome, though. They were very much upper-class snobs who cared for their own power and wealth far more than they cared about God.

    • @silversauceran
      @silversauceran 3 роки тому

      nothing new under the sun

    • @heftymagic4814
      @heftymagic4814 3 роки тому

      @@MW66VB conservatism and liberalism were very different from then to know

  • @shelly12252009
    @shelly12252009 3 роки тому +19

    I am so grateful for Jesus. . Just celebrated my two year anniversary March 31st of goin to church. I thought i was running out of people that I could trust. I love the way that you teach. I've been going through this Mark series since the beginning of Lent and I have learned so much. I appreciate the time that you put in the knowledge that you give such an amazing blessing I'm learning so much from this. I have finished the New testament about a year ago and I'm up to Deuteronomy now so it's exciting

  • @glshim13
    @glshim13 3 роки тому +78

    Pastor Mike, that loaf miracle story I've heard in my own Bible study as a child. We had an associate pastor's wife lead the Bible story me, age 10, and my 2 younger cousins. She reassured us that it was still a miracle because there was abundant human compassion. I just grabbed both my cousins and took them downstairs to do something else. I was so shocked and thank God for giving me the spirit of discernment and courage to get out of that.

  • @truthmatters82
    @truthmatters82 2 роки тому +18

    Mike thank you for all the time you spend in studying God's Word in order to try to accurately understand and correctly interpret Scripture.
    I have been so blessed by so many your video's and I know others have to. God bless you , your family and this ministry!🙏🕊️❤️

  • @timothyaaron8603
    @timothyaaron8603 2 роки тому +12

    I'm glad that the Sadducees asked their questions. We learned a lot more about the resurrection.

  • @mkmarak
    @mkmarak 3 роки тому +28

    there are progressive "Christians" who usually doubt miracles and then there are charismatics who believe almost every claim of miracle. It would be great to have a video with a good explanation on how to avoid being in both extremes. 🤔

  • @henriklarsson5221
    @henriklarsson5221 3 роки тому +46

    Balaam: That donkey spoke to me!!!
    Sadducee: Nahh bro that´s silly, it was just a ventriloquist standing beside the donkey...

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 5 місяців тому

      The Sadducees didn’t believe in stuff like angels or the resurrection of the dead due to it being miraculous but because, from their point-of-view, it was wildly innovative.

  • @MikeWinger
    @MikeWinger  3 роки тому +41

    I've been enjoying so much positive feedback on this series through the Gospel of Mark. You can get every video in the series so far with this playlist. ua-cam.com/play/PLZ3iRMLYFlHuGenHwUdeiQ5M-uj5XW4sF.html

    • @ajlouviere202
      @ajlouviere202 2 роки тому

      This is what Jesus warns us regarding adultery in Mark 10:10-12:
      10When they were back inside the house, the disciples asked Jesus about this matter. 11So He told them, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12And if a woman divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”

  • @wintersking4290
    @wintersking4290 3 роки тому +7

    Teaching the Bible in California, you good sir are living dangerously. May God bless you.

  • @guntert.9239
    @guntert.9239 2 роки тому +7

    Mike, I discovered your channel a few weeks ago - and was blown away by the serious, but also humorous and deeply pastoral approach you use. You really take the Bible seriously and try to think biblically - which has become so rare among Christians of all denomination these days. I've learned so much from watching your videos and am deeply grateful to you for your effort! Greetings from a Bavarian Catholic !

  • @anna.lydecken
    @anna.lydecken 2 роки тому +5

    I'm a former progressive Christian and therefore still have a good number of those people in my life and specially in my social media. I'm so grateful to God for his patience and love for me to lead me on a right path, but sad for those still in the dark. In Finland most of our state Lutheran church members (I'm now in another church) are thinking as the progressives you described here. Even the pastors and bishops. That is the most terrible thing. Thanks for all the great videos and your awesome work! I'm anxiously waiting for the next episode of the women in church-series! 😄❤️

  • @sydb2848
    @sydb2848 3 роки тому +199

    My daughter went to a "Christian" university in CA. She had a professor that was a Hebrew/biblical scholar, and unfortunately he planted doubts in his students indoctrinating them to think that God's Word was replete with errors. This "biblical" scholar did it in such a way, that even my daughter tried to justify it. While justifying it, she still acknowledged that the Scriptures were inspired of God, but there were some discrepancies as her teacher put it. This is not the case today with her today (I pray) because I shared some apologetic books with her...but this is what's going on in "Christian" schools...Sadducees or progressives are everywhere. Must be versed with the Bible or you might be deceived yourself.

    • @ariw9790
      @ariw9790 3 роки тому +14

      I see this happening a lot, “progressive Christians” agreeing that the word is inspired by God, but not all His true spoken word. The definition of inspired in the Greek is “God breathed”....it’s His breath speaking through His prophets, not just simply inspired how humans gain inspiration.
      2 Tim 3:16
      “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:“

    • @jessicaelizondo4255
      @jessicaelizondo4255 3 роки тому +16

      Jey, I am a student at a private “Christian” school and have noticed the same about the Bible professors.
      Some even deny hell and assign books that question the divinity of Jesus.
      The Lord has guarded my mind and has kept me from going down that hole. I am curious as to what books you shared with your daughter. Would you share those with me?
      It would be helpful to be more equipped to help my peers stay on track.

    • @Iamwrongbut
      @Iamwrongbut 3 роки тому +1

      What tribe was Moses’ father in law from?

    • @teresamondragon678
      @teresamondragon678 3 роки тому +7

      @@Iamwrongbut Moses father-in-law practiced idolatry. After the miraculous defeat of Amalek soon after the Exodus from Egypt, Moses’ father-in-law heard of all the miracles G‑d did for the Jews, ar which point he moved to join the children of Israel in the desert with his daughter and grandchildren (the wife and sons of Moses). There he exclaimed to Moses, “Now I know G‑d is greater than all other gods.” (Ex 18:11)

    • @MW66VB
      @MW66VB 3 роки тому +7

      you do realize t b at the King James Bible, which is in use today was written to support political views of that ti e that were of benefit to the King...right? so yeah, descrpencies.

  • @DamonNomad82
    @DamonNomad82 3 роки тому +101

    57:47 Pope Francis turned the question "Is the Pope Catholic?" from the punchline of a joke into a serious question!

    • @carissstewart3211
      @carissstewart3211 3 роки тому +8

      Sadly yes. 😪
      As a devout Catholic, I fear that too many Bishops nowadays take Matthew 16:20 and run with it.

  • @adaynasmile
    @adaynasmile 3 роки тому +34

    Alisa Childers really opened my eyes to understand the Progressive movement. One of my friends from Bible College sent me Rachel Held Evans' book Searching for Sunday, and the ideas that I have been seeing around the Christian community online was reflected so well in it. I also read Love Wins back when it first came out. I had previously known Rob Bell's stuff to be well written and it all seemed good. The whole time I was reading that book though I was appalled that he was calling it Christianity. Sure it was a beautiful picture. But it wasn't reality or more importantly, Biblical. Thank you for your gentle spirit and attacking the lies of the devil that are such a part of our current culture. I am praying for my friends and hoping that God will soften hearts to bring a return to the things of the truth.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 роки тому +4

      The first lie of Satan is that you won't die. The second is that you're God. Virtually all heresies continue to repeat one lie or the other.

    • @dr.graves5541
      @dr.graves5541 3 роки тому +1

      @@toomanymarys7355 No, it is the bible that tells you that you wont die. It promises that you will live forever. All you have to do is die. And of course you are not just some creature on earth, you are a god that will live forever. So you are saying that God is Satan? I don buy it, but it would make some of the insanity of the bible make sense.

    • @dr.graves5541
      @dr.graves5541 3 роки тому +2

      You were appalled by people being good to each other, and treating each other as human beings... Ya, good to know...

    • @waynewoods8982
      @waynewoods8982 Рік тому

      Amen

  • @rebeccalharthart8000
    @rebeccalharthart8000 3 роки тому +19

    A friend posted this video. I am a first-time watcher. Thank you for being a solid Bible teacher. I will hope to watch more of your videos.

  • @lukelucas6789
    @lukelucas6789 3 роки тому +14

    Lol the progressive explanation of Jesus on water had me rolling!! I'm getting hooked on your videos, Mike!! Excellent work!

  • @yl1101
    @yl1101 3 роки тому +12

    "Progressive" is "Redefinition" by another name. They want to redefine the Christian teachings to suit their means or lifestyle choices, and most often than not, by selective acceptance of scriptures so they appear Christian, but in fact they have in the process already abandoned some fundamental and critical truths.

  • @isabelleruckert4615
    @isabelleruckert4615 3 роки тому +78

    Biblically sound teaching AND a cat. That’s my kind of YT channel haha 😂

  • @websterbrandcoaching9724
    @websterbrandcoaching9724 3 роки тому +10

    I lived in Salt Lake City for two years, never converted to LDS after researching it. You described it very well.

  • @aaronmay6425
    @aaronmay6425 Рік тому +3

    I had a long discussion with a progressive Christian today and your analysis in this video was spot on.
    This guy is absolutely convinced in universal salvation and that sin has no eternal consequence. It was heart breaking to talk with him. I ended the conversation with a call for him to seek God and repent.
    It hurts to see people so deeply deceived.

  • @anitakathleenpierce4420
    @anitakathleenpierce4420 3 роки тому +6

    I am so happy I found you-Mike Winger!!! I love your awesome spirit and sense of humor!! Thanks for sharing multiple teachings & examples to express the power of wordS... Either we believe in the "Power" of Gods Words or we live ignorantly like Sadducees and miss the brilliance of this day!!!

  • @abidinginchrist3139
    @abidinginchrist3139 3 роки тому +22

    This was a really good teaching. Thanks Mike, I appreciate everything you do!

  • @lukefitz1492
    @lukefitz1492 2 роки тому +3

    I'm not subscribed to your content but this video happened to be a choice on my scrolling list. I clicked to watch and so glad I did. Great information and presented perfectly. I always love to visit the stories when Jesus sets the religious people of the day straight and shuts them down. I learned some things from this that was enlightening. Thanks for the message.

  • @jjcox0710
    @jjcox0710 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you for this Mike, I'm going through confronting my church and their view on women in leadership. I appreciate you.

    • @jeffwarren6906
      @jeffwarren6906 3 роки тому +2

      What is their view of women in leadership ? , yes or no . Just curious ..

  • @andrewtham8093
    @andrewtham8093 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you, Mike, for your consistency in putting out videos on this playlist. This series on Mark has become a source of knowledge and edification for me since covid-19 began and more severe restrictions put on religious gatherings (I'm based in China). May God continue to prosper the work of your hands!

    • @Praise___YaH
      @Praise___YaH 3 роки тому

      HERE is the Original Semitic Text, You NEED to READ this
      YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
      From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
      "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
      Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
      Yad - "Behold The Hand"
      He - "Behold the Breath"
      Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

  • @teresamasters4784
    @teresamasters4784 3 роки тому +5

    You are an EXCELLENT teacher/pastor!! Thank you for explaining things so we can better understand God’s Word, and apply that daily to our lives. God bless you!!

  • @robertbethel6074
    @robertbethel6074 3 роки тому +65

    Sadducees stopped existing after the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It’s hard to believe in no resurrection after a resurrection occurred.

    • @sixinarow1
      @sixinarow1 3 роки тому

      See my comment.

    • @davidhiggins3012
      @davidhiggins3012 3 роки тому +3

      Actually they stopped existing after they were wiped out by Rome when the Temple was destroyed in 70AD

    • @transgeek2345
      @transgeek2345 3 роки тому +1

      @@gustavmahler1466 Uh, this ain't it chief?

    • @carissstewart3211
      @carissstewart3211 3 роки тому

      Mike Winger: "Don't try to interpret Scripture against itself.
      @@gustavmahler1466 "hah! I'm about to disprove the Resurrection with a single passage I ripped out of context from Ecclesiates."

    • @carissstewart3211
      @carissstewart3211 3 роки тому

      @@gustavmahler1466 Still at it ripping passages out of context in order to interpret the Bible against itself, I see. Next you'll point out that Christ wasn't slain on a literal altar.
      Hebrews 10:4-5
      Smh

  • @LoriLev1107
    @LoriLev1107 3 роки тому +5

    This was very helpful! Thank you for tackling these issues thoroughly with scripture. So refreshing.

  • @Andy-gq5hb
    @Andy-gq5hb 3 роки тому +16

    The toxin analogy is one I've really felt. It's always little bits of very well placed bad doctrine. And usually it's very hard to debate because good theology comes across as harsh sometimes.
    I have had long debates where I think were debating what scripture says but after awhile I realize I'm the only one using scripture and they're using some personal stories of people who they don't think represent God well to say why they don't believe the Bible.

  • @catthouser9032
    @catthouser9032 3 роки тому +5

    Mike you are a blessing. I love to study the Bible. You make it so clear. Thank you.

  • @bradhouston4734
    @bradhouston4734 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks Mike. So far your thoughts and community seem loving and earnest. So I’m tuned in. I want to be someone who works towards unity for all believer and who strives for the truth.
    💕💓💕💓

  • @Turn140
    @Turn140 2 роки тому +3

    Hi, new here. Have been looking for the gospel and God. Great video, very enlightening for me. I really enjoy the video structure and how easy you explain everything. Thank you

  • @elijahgonzales4369
    @elijahgonzales4369 3 роки тому +16

    I love u bringing out the big guns, sometimes teachers try to be too neutral then calling out the wrong in the world

    • @Praise___YaH
      @Praise___YaH 3 роки тому

      HERE is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE take One Minute and READ this
      YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
      From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
      "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
      Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
      Yad - "Behold The Hand"
      He - "Behold the Breath"
      Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

  • @Brenda-qo4ko
    @Brenda-qo4ko 3 роки тому +62

    Another very good video, Mike.I wish progressive "Christians" would find themselves their own name for their theology because when you take the supernatural out of Christianity it no longer is Christianity.I think you are spot on in your comparison of liberal "Christianity" to the Sadducees (and Roman Catholicism to the Pharisees).

    • @gareth2736
      @gareth2736 3 роки тому +6

      Although true christians are a mixture of progressive and conservative.... Christianity is utterly supernatural agreed, if Christ is not risen our faith is futile. On the other hand conservative christians have defended slavery and then racial segregation and opposed equal rights for women in the name of conservatism. despite the great declaration from Paul that in Christ there is neither male nor female, jew or gentile, slave or free but we are all sons of God in Christ Jesus. Somethings should stay the same some things should change....the bible isn't a call to arms for preserving the status quo at all costs neither is it about changing everything, although at it's core the message of the new testament seems to me far more radical than it is conservative (just read Mary's song at the start of Luke's gospel if you don't believe me!) ....although it did have continuity with all that God had spoken through the prophets beforehand.

    • @sarahthompson1407
      @sarahthompson1407 3 роки тому +10

      @@gareth2736 don’t let your political party become interchangeable with your christian label. you are a christian, or you’re not. although you may be a christian who agrees with conservative/progressive ideas, you are not a conservation/progressive christian. your relationship with Jesus and the way you obey His Word is high above man made political ideas.

    • @gareth2736
      @gareth2736 3 роки тому +2

      @@sarahthompson1407 it's a continum though isn't it. The most conservative christians would say you shouldn't even be trying to teach me on a theological matter because you are a woman....personally I think that is nutty and you have just as much right to correct me as a man does if you think I am in the wrong. On the other hand I think if people claim to be christians but deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus, well they are not. Lots of other beliefs though are on a spectrum...Mike Winger is relatively conservative but the most conservative christians would view him as progressive. I might look progressive compared with folk commenting on here but in many environments I would be the conservative.
      You are quite right though about being politically conservative vs conservative on theology and they are very different things especially outside of the US. In the UK it's quite common for folk to have conservative christian theology but vote for the labour party while liberal christians (progressive theology) might very well have very conservative political beliefs (in fact very liberal church's are probably more likely to survive in the sort of affluent areas where people are more likely to vote conservative..)

    • @sarahthompson1407
      @sarahthompson1407 3 роки тому +2

      @@gareth2736 I consider myself aligned with conservative views, and am mostly surrounded by people with similar beliefs and I've never heard anyone tell me I'm not fit to teach or talk about theology because I'm a woman. I'm simply just saying that as CHRISTIANS we should not let the man-made labels of the world collide and coincide with our God given labels. I am a CHRISTIAN with conservative beliefs. My christian beliefs do direct my conservative beliefs, but not the other way around, and so I believe it's important to keep the two seperate. I'm not at all arguing with you (and I apologize if it has seemed as so) I'm just simply stating my ideas on labelling ourselves as conservative/progressive christians and not just simply "christian."

    • @gareth2736
      @gareth2736 3 роки тому +1

      @@sarahthompson1407 I think I misread what you were saying before. Yes I agree with you about labels.

  • @JeffHendricks
    @JeffHendricks 3 роки тому +10

    "Using a Biblical truth to reject another Biblical truth - it's time to run away" This is exactly what Bill Johnson does when he claims it's not God's will that any believer should be sick.

    • @jacobgarcia4826
      @jacobgarcia4826 3 роки тому +3

      Or when he says that "the judgement of God is true, but the mercy of God is MORE true", which really doesn't make sense.

    • @JeffHendricks
      @JeffHendricks 3 роки тому

      @@jacobgarcia4826 Exactly.

    • @Praise___YaH
      @Praise___YaH 3 роки тому

      HERE is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE take One Minute and READ this
      YaH The Heavenly FATHER was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
      From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
      "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
      Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
      Yad - "Behold The Hand"
      He - "Behold the Breath"
      Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

  • @farrellzirkel3907
    @farrellzirkel3907 2 роки тому +2

    Man this is absolutely right, I been thinking alot of this stuff myself, preach it brother, preach this to everyone

  • @wendyraptureready
    @wendyraptureready 3 роки тому +4

    Your teaching is so thorough, I love the details and truth. I learned a lot about the sadducees from your study today.. I now understand the correlation to progressive christians thinking.Thank you!
    And I love your cat, her coloring is unique, shes beautiful.😻

  • @markspears1167
    @markspears1167 3 роки тому +4

    I very much enjoyed this topic of study. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.

  • @vivianeborkholder2268
    @vivianeborkholder2268 3 роки тому +9

    A miracle of compassion where people were hiding food.... Only an American used to having way more than they need could possibly come up with that explanation! 😂

  • @reillymccleskey7493
    @reillymccleskey7493 3 роки тому +1

    The way you unpack scripture is amazing. You are obviously in search of biblical truth. Truly inspiring to see a Godly man unpack scripture so effectively.

  • @MikeJones-pg7dy
    @MikeJones-pg7dy 2 роки тому +1

    Bro you're a total gangster for going through scripture in such depth. I love it man thank you!

  • @carolinerich7213
    @carolinerich7213 3 роки тому +4

    This was really informative, thank you for your teachings as always there is good quality.

  • @habibdebly3501
    @habibdebly3501 3 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed this. This was a great way of relating the scripture to modern day issues. Thank you!

  • @spiritandflesh8477
    @spiritandflesh8477 3 роки тому +1

    Brother, I just have to share how much I enjoy your videos. I spent most of my life attending a church that did not teach much scripture and left a lot of questions unanswered. At a pivotal time in my walk, the gospel was revealed to me in its entirety through men like you, who faithfully teach the word and dig deep into it. I have experienced the joy of going deep into study of the scripture and find that your videos answer a lot of my questions. I also thank you for mentioning how you write out questions you have while you are reading. I never considered doing that but am sitting here now questioning how I avoided such a great way of growing in knowledge of Christ. I really appreciate your genuine compassion behind your answers, while not sacrificing the proclamation of truth. I also appreciate the sensible amount of humor you throw into your videos (and cat cam). So glad you continue to do these videos, praying God continues to use you to reach the lost and sanctify those who are in Christ. Have a blessed day.

  • @thebiblecommentary5790
    @thebiblecommentary5790 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your clarity and your cogent arguments on the matter, Mike.

  • @rosaharvey577
    @rosaharvey577 3 роки тому +8

    Thank you for this video! I go to a "Christian" college and I hear things constantly from the Profs that are said in Christianese, and sound really great without much reflection, but conflict with truths about God. Probably because the higher-ups want the college to be trendy and palatable idk. But thank you, it's nice to hear the living Word.

  • @devinmckee9316
    @devinmckee9316 3 роки тому +20

    Am i getting a theology degree right now? Cuz i feel like i just took my first class.

  • @Ryan-lt2nh
    @Ryan-lt2nh Рік тому +1

    You have a way of tearing down strongholds while building up the church at the same time. At least I get excited about Jesus :)

  • @ianc.4519
    @ianc.4519 3 роки тому +2

    Hi there, just found ya and I really appreciate the down to earth, straight up, and honest words. Right on and blessings to you and your family. 👍

  • @Kase5883
    @Kase5883 3 роки тому +4

    Starting fires now might prevent eternal fires in the future! Keep lighting them Mike!

  • @DougShoeBushcraft
    @DougShoeBushcraft 3 роки тому +3

    This was great. -Very helpful. No, you weren't just pointing fingers like "You're a Sadducee!!" But you taught us how to apply the Scripture to daily life. I agree that we are more familiar with the Pharisee spirit in the world today, and teaching was needed about the Sadducee spirit. Excellent.

  • @deadpoinsettia
    @deadpoinsettia 3 роки тому +2

    Oh man, I stumbled upon this video today and very glad I did. Subscribed!

  • @brendayu6738
    @brendayu6738 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your love of truth & Biblical teaching! So encouraged & strengthened!

  • @pookahchu
    @pookahchu 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the word on when to NOT correct, in an emotional time. I needed to hear that. And I hope I remember when I need it! My husband said before that people mistook the fish and loaves as an offering.. He's a comedian sometimes, and I thought he came up with that clever anecdote on his own ... just for laughs!

  • @hahadint
    @hahadint 3 роки тому +3

    just found your channel! I am so glad I did! such great stuff!

  • @georgekennedy2621
    @georgekennedy2621 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you brother just wanted to encourage you in this very helpful ministry

  • @Meg_219
    @Meg_219 9 місяців тому

    Just so thorough, well-researched and incredibly helpful but humble

  • @melissaconner9538
    @melissaconner9538 3 роки тому +3

    Love how you explain the fish and bread miracle. Lol So good!

  • @lukedornon960
    @lukedornon960 3 роки тому +31

    How can someone say with a straight face that jesus walking on water was a mirage? The text literally says it was night!

    • @RichardKentMatthews
      @RichardKentMatthews 3 роки тому

      You cannot use the text to prove the text.

    • @mandi3366
      @mandi3366 3 роки тому +8

      @@RichardKentMatthews yes we can. Christianity is about the Bible, so we’re going to prove progressives wrong with scripture since they like to misquote it so much. We’re just trying to spread the good word of Christ ! Jesus loves you 🤍

    • @stephenhurley1033
      @stephenhurley1033 2 роки тому +3

      @@RichardKentMatthews what are you suggesting you can use?
      You can find external evidence to proove or disprove a text in scripture but what you cant do is use a random explaination to explain the account which the account has details that contradict the... Strange unneeded explaination...
      The scripture tells us of supernatural things happening, assuming its true we are discussing the God of creation of all things, he can make men walk on water if thats true. As Jesus said, understand the scripture and understand the power of God.
      I mean this in a loving way and I hope you see it as such.

    • @JaylLaf
      @JaylLaf 2 роки тому +4

      Also, at least four of the disciples were fishermen. They probably knew where the bodies of water were located. Also...the boat?!

  • @carmennooner2027
    @carmennooner2027 3 роки тому +1

    Watched a two part interview yesterday, done on Alisa Childers' UA-cam channel. Didn't know who either of you were but this video showed up in my stream so I thought that since I enjoyed the interview so much, I would watch this. I must say, I'm impressed. And, I subscribed!

  • @SheLightsUptheDark
    @SheLightsUptheDark 2 роки тому

    Very thankful for this and what you shared.. so few people are willing to refute the lies out there in the culture and few willing enough to apply themselves to be equipped properly to do so.. I don’t watch very often but when I have it has been sharpening and thought provoking :) thankyou for being faithful with the word

  • @lancewren6870
    @lancewren6870 3 роки тому +23

    25:47 "I'm leaving. Stop talking about your cat"
    -Said no one ever. Please continue to talk about your cat.

  • @arielteixeira4306
    @arielteixeira4306 3 роки тому +4

    Great video. You got me for 36 minutes and i have a really hard time watching a video this long. cheers from Brasil, we also have progressive theologians here sadly

  • @melissaconner9538
    @melissaconner9538 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, you're so knowledgeable. Thank you for sharing with us! Love your cat too!

  • @MrHotrod888888
    @MrHotrod888888 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for talking about this. Praise Jesus

  • @Mr.C-Mister
    @Mr.C-Mister 3 роки тому +12

    Beautiful. Found you by accident. Happy accident.

  • @hccarson7938
    @hccarson7938 2 роки тому +3

    If He could speak the entire universe into being, He can do absolutely anything!!!

  • @kerendawson6377
    @kerendawson6377 3 роки тому +1

    It's crazy how Jesus equipped us with so much material to refute all the false teaching out there. I love our Lord.

  • @kpeterson1342
    @kpeterson1342 3 роки тому +2

    Great instruction, Mike! I always benefit from your videos. Even if I forget to hit the like button. And I love when you show your cat... she has the most amazing markings on her face. Very unique. My orange Jasper cat is my favourite person lol And he has many names as well. Love your channel! God bless you!

  • @25donkeys12
    @25donkeys12 3 роки тому +14

    Hello Pastor Mike, have you heard of a book by J. Gresham Machen called "Christianity and Liberalism"? Same topic. Good book.

  • @sixinarow1
    @sixinarow1 3 роки тому +14

    I was listening to PBS radio on a Sunday afternoon, and the man speaking was trying to debunk the deity of Christ (why does PBS go out of their way to air this stuff on Sunday). His logic for why Jesus was seen by many after the resurrection was because he had a twin brother. I laughed so hard that I hurt.

    • @WondurLand64s
      @WondurLand64s 3 роки тому +2

      He said Jesus had a twin brother? Sounds like it would be entertaining to laugh at

    • @sixinarow1
      @sixinarow1 2 роки тому +1

      @@WondurLand64s Actually at first, I was shocked, then it became ridiculously funny.

  • @djpublius
    @djpublius 3 роки тому +2

    The book of Job is said to possibly be the oldest book in the Bible, and IT discusses the resurrection... Job 19:25-27

  • @tceestg5
    @tceestg5 Рік тому +1

    Great teaching @Mike. Truly appreciate truth being taught

  • @davidwomack5982
    @davidwomack5982 3 роки тому +5

    This has to do with lukewarm instead of neither being cold, nor hot.
    Jesus said, “ I will spew you out of my mouth.”

    •  3 роки тому

      What chapter and verse did JESUS say this? HA!

    • @davidwomack5982
      @davidwomack5982 3 роки тому +2

      @ ..... Normally, I would tell you to look it up yourself, however I will make an exception, because of your haughtiness. Read Revelation in the KJV 3: 14-22. A message to Laodicea.

  • @keepitrealoriginal
    @keepitrealoriginal 3 роки тому +5

    We need a study in Titus soon. JS🙏❤

  • @user-kh3qc2ii9b
    @user-kh3qc2ii9b 2 роки тому

    Mike, you seem like a good man, I have watched quite a few of your videos. I just wish you would spend more of your energy in trying to find ways to unite us as Christians...

  • @johnlewis8934
    @johnlewis8934 2 роки тому +1

    27:10 “Riddles aren’t truth’s they are riddles.”That’s a great statement

  • @SavannahSedai
    @SavannahSedai 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for a further explanation of the sadducees. I’ve only known this scripture to refute religions with marriage/sex in heaven so thank you for also getting to the Mormon point too!

    • @johnweber4577
      @johnweber4577 7 днів тому

      The more accurate explanation is that they were actually religious and political conservatives who essentially championed an earlier “Torah Alone” form of Judaism.

  • @morgancameronn204
    @morgancameronn204 3 роки тому +12

    I just watched The American Gospel: Christ Crucified and I was so excited when I saw you!!! By the way The American Gospel: Christ Crucified is an incredible documentary that thoroughly explains many topics like these - definitely go check it out!!

    • @3wolfsdown702
      @3wolfsdown702 3 роки тому

      Jesus can't save you Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior God speaking..

    • @drewreinbold6082
      @drewreinbold6082 3 роки тому

      @3 wolfs down no one comes to the Father except through him

    • @3wolfsdown702
      @3wolfsdown702 3 роки тому

      @@drewreinbold6082 only according to the Roman Pagan Testament read your Bible you don't need Jesus to be saved ..
      Isaiah 43:11 I I, even I, I am the Lord, and besides me there is no savior ,God speaking

    • @3wolfsdown702
      @3wolfsdown702 3 роки тому +1

      @@drewreinbold6082 no other Prophet needed Jesus to get to God that is Roman Pagan teachings

    • @andrewfortmusic
      @andrewfortmusic 3 роки тому

      @@3wolfsdown702 Good thing Jesus IS the Lord. :)

  • @anthonybarber3872
    @anthonybarber3872 2 роки тому +1

    if someone tries to put one text of Scripture against another Scripture...walk away.
    Spot on!
    Thank you Mike!

  • @1BestCookie
    @1BestCookie 3 роки тому +2

    I am Jewish currently studying Jewish history this subject is very interesting thanx

  • @Rantman9
    @Rantman9 3 роки тому +3

    Over and above, the miracle that Jesus performed with the loves & fish happened not once, but 3 times. Furthermore, when Jesus and His disciples were in the boat and one complained about not having enough food onboard, Jesus said unto them "Were you not there when we filled the baskets from so little?" (I've severely reworded & butchered the actual text, but I hope the same point is made) - in addition, it shows that even those that were closest to Him, and we're witnesses, didn't always fully understand Who He Is

  • @shomshomni2314
    @shomshomni2314 3 роки тому +7

    Mike you need to check out God is Grey youtube channel. I'm so shocked by the things that come out of her mouth in the name of "Christianity" and the whole world loves her..

    • @kalesheonn8366
      @kalesheonn8366 3 роки тому +1

      I agree. I really dislike her. I especially dislike her beef with girl defined.

  • @koraykirik9448
    @koraykirik9448 3 роки тому

    I subbed not only because it was enlightening video but because your voice is like butter to my ears.
    I like the tone and delivery.
    It’s making me hot down.
    Lord forgive me for I am tempted to lie with another man.

  • @chelyfranco5037
    @chelyfranco5037 3 роки тому +1

    Job 19:25-27 "....yet in my flesh I shall see God..."

  • @dylantucker2354
    @dylantucker2354 3 роки тому +4

    Has Mike written any books?? I feel like he should be a must read for anyone wanting to get into church leadership.

  • @nemamdala7300
    @nemamdala7300 3 роки тому +4

    Thank you Mike Winger. I finally understood something today regarding Christians who are not true believers.

  • @phalanxcuthalion9664
    @phalanxcuthalion9664 2 роки тому

    Powerful. I'm literally crying right now. Thanks brother

  • @davidoltmans2725
    @davidoltmans2725 2 роки тому

    “You study the Scriptures thinking in them you have eternal life, but is they that testify of Me.”