I never watch TV these days, I'd much rather find gems like this starring genuinely talented people who have something interesting and funny to say. What a talent.
The problem with tv these days is genuine talent like Kenneth Williams and the likes are gone forever…..we are left with so called celebs that THINK they are talented and funny when in reality it is all self delusion on their part.
Only now as I get older, you realise what a fascinating man Kenneth was. As someone mentioned you could watch him all day. His love of language and his word play is just genius. Much missed.
He'd go home after performances like this where he was full of fun and eccentricity and life, and sit quite alone reading poetry, listening to classical music etc, he was a walking talking contradiction. Fascinating & very talented man, wonderful x
Fantabulosa!!! A master raconteur, I could sit and listen to his stories all night. Kenneth may have left us all too soon but I love the fact that thanks to UA-cam and the fans who kindly uploaded these gems, we can listen to his wit and wallow in his charm anytime we want.
@@alangiles4616 he actually imposed himself on Barbara Windsor and her husband when they went on their honeymoon by going with them. He was a very troubled person and in another occupation he would have been considered a dreadful liar.
There is something fascinating about how his voice and accent flow seamlessly from posh to working class and back again. He knows EXACTLY when to do it and when it will have the best effect for what he’s saying.
I’m 12 almost 13 and have loved him all my life, it’s nice to know it’s not all elderly people here. 😊 are you 32 now since this was commented 7 years ago?
@@comediansactorsandall2502 i commend you on your excellent taste in comedy. I hope it stays with you and helps you in any times you feel down. Carry on laughing!
Words can't describe, can they I, what a wonderful relaxed interview, Russell is the only one who truly brought Kenneth out, probably because he was non judgemental, that's what I remember of him growing up in the eighties. I have just laughed that much I feel sick, Kenneth was sheer genius, there will never be another Kenneth
He had one of the most distinctive voices in the history of the English language. It was posh, gruff, camp in equal measures, simultaneously for most of the time ! My generation knows him from Willow The Wisp kids TV show.
David Boris Fernandez Who would have thought the word "No" could be *so* _EPIC_? @ 1:22 HARTY: "Have you fallen in love, ever?" WILLIAMS: "NNNNNNrrrrrrrroughhhhhhhh. No..."
Er war so wunderbar! Ich verstehe nicht viel aus dem Englischen und er könnte den größten Blödsinn von sich gegeben haben, aber nur zu SEHEN, wie er gesprochen hat: so toll! DANKE, daß es DICH gegeben hat, lieber Kenneth Williams: RIP!
I remember seeing this at the time. I've laughed all the way through it. What a fine interviewer Harty was - just a gentle nudge occasionally. And Williams, a genius.
Lets be honest! Gays everywhere owe this man and those like him. Everyone at this time had the idea but it was never spoken...... Bless him... Bless him
I could listen to him forever, he tells such wonderful anecdotes in a way that mesmerizes. In fact the 'story' becomes almost academic - he could literally take the most mundane of stories and enthrall you with it.
What an utterly brilliant,engaging and funny man.Its strange but I've literally only taken an interest in him recently.Ive obviously watched the carry on films ect ect but for some unknown reason I find myself very interested in him now,absolute genius
KW is on great form here, due to the fact that he genuinely liked Harty. If Parkinson, or some other Interviewer of the day had suddenly questioned him about his finances, he would not have taken it in such good humour.
Love kenneth Williams so old school camp,love how he switches from posh to working class mum on the Caledonian road in the 50's Joe Orton's biography has some great K.W anecdotes.
You can see how much he trusts Russell here. As he said in the first part, he does not like interviewers who try to "take the piss", hinting at people like Michael Parkinson who he detested "north country nit" be called him. He trusted and felt so relaxed in Russell's presence.
@@frazzleface753 He certainly did. They were great friends. Indeed I am surprised at who his closest friends were. Gordon Jackson, the actor from The Sweeney and Upstairs Downstairs was his best friend, Gordon and his wife used to invite him to spend Christmas Day and New Year's Eve with them, and he adored it. Hattie Jacques was another, and so was Stanley Baxter the Scottish impressionist. Russell was another, who would speak to Kenneth on the phone a lot when he was depressed.
yes. i got that too. the trust ....I watched that interview of him on Parkinson long ago. Parkinson challenged him to what they were talking about ...jobs etc. the next week parkinson had that famous union leader jimmy reid. that show was exceptionally good. love the back and forth of their conversation. !
All the Carry on films were one of the best productions ever made. The crew and actors they put together were the most talented people of the century. I wish someone can pull all this together again.
They tried a version with new, supposedly ‘alternative’ comedians back in I think the early 90s, Carry On Columbus. It was awful, but not awful enough to be ‘so bad it’s good’. Let’s be thankful for the ones we have. Personal favourites - Up the Khyber and Carry On Chopping But Screaming is the number one of course
Does anyone else notice how he brushed past details that would have made a great anecdote by themselves in order to get to his point? I've seen him do it numerous times and i think it's brilliant. Kenneth Williams was wasted in this world. Carry on Kenny.
Grew up listening to him in Round the Horn and Beyond our Ken. Jules and Sandy made us howl every week. I have been entertained and intrigued by him since then. A true master of comedy and the English language.
Gotta love Kenneth Williams...see him at the end just drinking in the audience applause that meant so much to him...a true performer and just toally unique. I love the fact that he's nominally lumped in with camp comedy, which is certainly part of his repartoire, but he just transcends that to be so much more! Really funny and interesting man.
What a great breath of fresh air,so much hidden within his performance. He reminds me very much of Frankie Howard's style, dealing with life in his own way on his term's, what a lovely man, missed greatly for his own take on life , god bless him for his contributions to comedy and his fragrant lifestyle.
@@jakeblowers4485 , he was such an artist at the craft of speech. he knew he had a gift and relished in rolling his R's and the like. a theatrical delight, indeed!!!!
Watch, learn and listen today's so called comedians this is comic genius. Fantabulosa the greatest interview ever aired two gentlemen at the top of their game. R.I.P Kenny and Russel.
He's been gone 35 years, but it's still hard to believe Kenneth Williams dead. One half expects to turn on the radio to find him incandescent at Nicholas Parsons for some imagined slight.
I feel certain that the American ear has a frightfully difficult time translating this. Not only the breakneck speed of his delivery, but his dialect, the plummyness and also the subject matter are unique.
Kenneth never owned a television set. He always bought one for his mother Louie, upgrading it over the years e.g. getting her a new colour set in the early 1970s. He would let her have the television, and he would pop round each night, or some nights to watch a few shows with her. Otherwise he hated much of what was pumped out on the then three (later four) UK stations. He much preferred reading, writing, listening to records or to the radio.
I'm not sure that's quite correct. I've seen an interview where he says the reason he didn't have a television is that he wouldn't get anything done as he would watch it too much.
@@MatgoStyles It was Sheila Hancock and Maggie Smith who both said in interviews about Kenneth, that Kenneth never owned a set because of what he felt was the rubbish pumped out. If you read his diary, you can see his contempt for television back then. He felt especially the BBC was a special good old boys club, where they all protected each other, which he hated.
The greatest showman, comedian and raconteur that ever lived. The only other comedian comparable was Robin Williams. Both genius and with an intellectual witticism that will never be surpassed. You will never be forgotten and I hope that you know that you will always be loved.❤ R.I.P Kenneth Williams
Loopy and peerless delightful. Loved hours and hours of him in Just a Minute. Love how he was allowed to fly free in this more of a monologue than interview.
Kenneth Williams had cockney, working-class parents and his early career was as a draughtsman drawing maps. He was a self-made man but not in the money sense - he made his own distinctive voice and public persona so well that nobody else could match him during his lifetime and since his rather early death from an overdose of sleeping pills. A one-off who didn't mind laughing at himself. What a dish!
+The Governor Excellent point Governor. I'd like to know what he would have added if given the chance.He is absolutely razor sharp! Unlike some interviewees who one can tell are concentrating on what they are about to say, it is clear he is paying very clear attention to the interviewer's words. When Russell Harty mentioned " does she bottom through," Ken was RIGHT on to it.
@@YorkshireNutte Chris Barrie was one of the impressionists, amongst many, that worked on Spitting Image...and at the same time Rob Grant and Doug Naylor, that went on to create Red Dwarf were both writers on Spitting Image, again, amongst many. Barrie did it for quite a few years.
Wasn`t that so refreshing to see!! im not gonna say TV today is rubbish, because its not, but, back in the 70`s and 80`s we were spoilt for talent..thanks for showing this, and btw i was 11 when this was aired for the 1st time
A truly funny man, shame we wont see people of his generation again, because what we have now apart from a few exceptions are just not funny or interesting..Go and get the box set of the carry on films, they`re wonderful
I'm a yank and I didn't get the big laugh there, I barely understood the word he was saying - thanks to your post, I could look the word up: harpic, a brand name of toilet-bowl cleaner, first produced in England back in the 20s
Scottish people say 'wire in', or normally 'get wired in' to means get busy/try hard/start eating. Interesting to hear that Kenneth's mother used it in London. to my surprise i can find almost no mention of it anywhere on the internet. So, what he is saying here is a bit of old history being recorded...But ive never heard 'bottom through' before - gonna use that from now on!
I never watch TV these days, I'd much rather find gems like this starring genuinely talented people who have something interesting and funny to say. What a talent.
Here here!!! Well said that man!
I recommend @jimandkwesi
@@comoyokojj
100 percent aggree
One day in Doyley Wood, evil Edna...
The problem with tv these days is genuine talent like Kenneth Williams and the likes are gone forever…..we are left with so called celebs that THINK they are talented and funny when in reality it is all self delusion on their part.
Only now as I get older, you realise what a fascinating man Kenneth was. As someone mentioned you could watch him all day.
His love of language and his word play is just genius. Much missed.
This man was a national treasure,I could listen to him all day
There will never be another like him...genius!
some people are forgettable this man was so funny he hid a lot of pain and made us laugh he is not forgettable RIP dear kenny a real star
He'd go home after performances like this where he was full of fun and eccentricity and life, and sit quite alone reading poetry, listening to classical music etc, he was a walking talking contradiction. Fascinating & very talented man, wonderful x
a national treasure for sure. How television has plumeted. This is when talented people were on the box before so called reality TV personalities
It's where Makarios served his novitiate. You know, Kenny, you are right.
Rest in peace Kenny... please know that you’re still making us laugh even now.... thank you.
He comes across as an absolute genius. Wow, he uses his intelligence in his humour.A highly gifted and missed "icon" of British society.
What an amazingly unique individual. There is literally no one else like this man.
Still makes me laugh after all these years. Long live our darling Kenneth.
What a brilliant man he was- much missed.
Fantabulosa!!! A master raconteur, I could sit and listen to his stories all night. Kenneth may have left us all too soon but I love the fact that thanks to UA-cam and the fans who kindly uploaded these gems, we can listen to his wit and wallow in his charm anytime we want.
Williams was a natural born comedian and intertainer. Sadly missed.
He was adorable. I could watch him all day, especially in interviews like this where he seems so at ease.
You need to read the diaries.
@@Ingens_Scherz Wow ! You have my interest.. What diaries,please???
@@highphysics3617 The Kenneth Williams diaries, published about 20 years ago.
@@highphysics3617 He could be very spiteful to people he worked with, like Sid James, and even members of the public on occasions, Allison
@@alangiles4616 he actually imposed himself on Barbara Windsor and her husband when they went on their honeymoon by going with them. He was a very troubled person and in another occupation he would have been considered a dreadful liar.
There is something fascinating about how his voice and accent flow seamlessly from posh to working class and back again. He knows EXACTLY when to do it and when it will have the best effect for what he’s saying.
@@ThePOSTEMON You’ve got to be kidding me? Russell Brand is an obnoxious little 💩
@@ThePOSTEMON Seeing as UA-cam has hidden my comment, all I can say is - surely you jest.
Im 25, and i think he was such a lovely and funny human being :) if only he was alive today :)
I’m 12 almost 13 and have loved him all my life, it’s nice to know it’s not all elderly people here. 😊 are you 32 now since this was commented 7 years ago?
@@comediansactorsandall2502 i commend you on your excellent taste in comedy. I hope it stays with you and helps you in any times you feel down. Carry on laughing!
Kenneth Williams along with Charles Hawtrey, Sid James and Norman Wisdom.... these guys were the laugh track of my life.. RIP to them all
I've never seen Kenneth Williams so at ease with an interviewer. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for posting!
He was a genius so missed and will remain in our hearts alive forever ♥️
Words can't describe, can they I, what a wonderful relaxed
interview, Russell is the only one who truly brought Kenneth out, probably because he was non judgemental, that's what I remember of him growing up in the eighties.
I have just laughed that much I feel sick, Kenneth was sheer genius, there will never be another Kenneth
He had one of the most distinctive voices in the history of the English language. It was posh, gruff, camp in equal measures, simultaneously for most of the time ! My generation knows him from Willow The Wisp kids TV show.
David Boris Fernandez Who would have thought the word "No" could be *so* _EPIC_?
@ 1:22
HARTY: "Have you fallen in love, ever?"
WILLIAMS: "NNNNNNrrrrrrrroughhhhhhhh. No..."
themirrorsofmymind I do wonder about that-but his sense of privacy was impregnable.
Yeah, I loved Willo The Wisp.
Absolutely wonderful as ever! God bless you Kenneth, we miss you x
Kenneth... you are loved... to this very day. Hope you can know it.
oh, I just love him. Kenny, wherever you are, know that you are (still) LOVED!
"I put the harpic down and run!" Oh god I love that line! God bless you Kenneth, you were so funny and will forever remain an inspiration :)
nearly peed miself laughing at that one..comedy gold this man!
Such a fascinating , brilliant and great conversationalist! I'm glad I discovered this gem of a human being!
Er war so wunderbar! Ich verstehe nicht viel aus dem Englischen und er könnte den größten Blödsinn von sich gegeben haben, aber nur zu SEHEN, wie er gesprochen hat: so toll! DANKE, daß es DICH gegeben hat, lieber Kenneth Williams: RIP!
I remember seeing this at the time. I've laughed all the way through it. What a fine interviewer Harty was - just a gentle nudge occasionally. And Williams, a genius.
Lets be honest! Gays everywhere owe this man and those like him. Everyone at this time had the idea but it was never spoken...... Bless him... Bless him
I could listen to him forever, he tells such wonderful anecdotes in a way that mesmerizes. In fact the 'story' becomes almost academic - he could literally take the most mundane of stories and enthrall you with it.
Definitely! Kenneth had that great freed-up personality, a quality so very few people possess - that wonderful mug of his, all those expressions!
what a talented interviewer.
What an utterly brilliant,engaging and funny man.Its strange but I've literally only taken an interest in him recently.Ive obviously watched the carry on films ect ect but for some unknown reason I find myself very interested in him now,absolute genius
i think hes brillant. if i have a bad day i think of him & he cheers me up no end. i soo wish he was still alive...... i miss him so!
I've just found Kenneth Williams today and I've very very glad :)
lucky you, he was wonderful.
Hope your journey with Ken is going well
KW is on great form here, due to the fact that he genuinely liked Harty.
If Parkinson, or some other Interviewer of the day had suddenly questioned him about his finances, he would not have taken it in such good humour.
What a sublime human. I get his thoughts on staying single.... My body is a car crash but I like my privacy...
He’s a complete one off. I adore him 💚❤️🧡
Love kenneth Williams so old school camp,love how he switches from posh to working class mum on the Caledonian road in the 50's
Joe Orton's biography has some great K.W anecdotes.
You can see how much he trusts Russell here. As he said in the first part, he does not like interviewers who try to "take the piss", hinting at people like Michael Parkinson who he detested "north country nit" be called him. He trusted and felt so relaxed in Russell's presence.
Yes, he definitely respected and trusted Russell.
@@frazzleface753 He certainly did. They were great friends. Indeed I am surprised at who his closest friends were. Gordon Jackson, the actor from The Sweeney and Upstairs Downstairs was his best friend, Gordon and his wife used to invite him to spend Christmas Day and New Year's Eve with them, and he adored it. Hattie Jacques was another, and so was Stanley Baxter the Scottish impressionist. Russell was another, who would speak to Kenneth on the phone a lot when he was depressed.
yes. i got that too. the trust ....I watched that interview of him on Parkinson long ago. Parkinson challenged him to what they were talking about ...jobs etc. the next week parkinson had that famous union leader jimmy reid. that show was exceptionally good. love the back and forth of their conversation. !
All the Carry on films were one of the best productions ever made. The crew and actors they put together were the most talented people of the century. I wish someone can pull all this together again.
Won't happen, it would upseth the professionally offended too much.
They tried a version with new, supposedly ‘alternative’ comedians back in I think the early 90s, Carry On Columbus. It was awful, but not awful enough to be ‘so bad it’s good’. Let’s be thankful for the ones we have. Personal favourites - Up the Khyber and Carry On Chopping But Screaming is the number one of course
The man was just an interviews dream with this seemingly endless stream of madcap anecdotes told in his own inimitable style .
Does anyone else notice how he brushed past details that would have made a great anecdote by themselves in order to get to his point? I've seen him do it numerous times and i think it's brilliant. Kenneth Williams was wasted in this world. Carry on Kenny.
Laughed out loud at that ! One of a kind and very, very funny
where are the likes of Kenneth Williams today?
Alan carr
The likes of Kenneth Williams are a true, one of a kind gem, Geoffrey. The likes of which comes along once in a generation!
@Uluvu None of the afore mentioned individuals come anywhere close to the wit, talent and intelligence of Kenneth Williams.
@Uluvu Mutual misunderstanding, I was seconding your comment.
Grew up listening to him in Round the Horn and Beyond our Ken. Jules and Sandy made us howl every week. I have been entertained and intrigued by him since then. A true master of comedy and the English language.
Gotta love Kenneth Williams...see him at the end just drinking in the audience applause that meant so much to him...a true performer and just toally unique. I love the fact that he's nominally lumped in with camp comedy, which is certainly part of his repartoire, but he just transcends that to be so much more! Really funny and interesting man.
Of course he was... that is what makes this so brilliant.. So was Russell Hardy , the interviewer..
What a great breath of fresh air,so much hidden within his performance. He reminds me very much of Frankie Howard's style, dealing with life in his own way on his term's, what a lovely man, missed greatly for his own take on life , god bless him for his contributions to comedy and his fragrant lifestyle.
I can't think of anyone in this time (2019) that comes anywhere close to Kenneth Williams' energy and wit. Anyone out there have a suggestion?
He had such an eloquent way of using words and tones, the closest to him I think would be Stephen Fry
@@jakeblowers4485 ,
he was such an artist at the craft of speech. he knew he had a gift and relished in rolling his R's and the like.
a theatrical delight, indeed!!!!
Absolutely wonderful. I could listen to him all day.
Russell you old smoothie you with the pick up line at the end...
lol that's what i thought
both lovely men , still missed after all this time, RIP 2019
Watch, learn and listen today's so called comedians this is comic genius. Fantabulosa the greatest interview ever aired two gentlemen at the top of their game. R.I.P Kenny and Russel.
I could listen to him for hours on end. Captivating.
God how I miss Kenneth Williams
Layton Jones. Thanks, me too.......
Splendid, miss him so much, such a larrrfff ! Thanks for the upload
I love the way he says atrocious and appalling! If I could switch voices with anyone it would be this marvellous man (or Tim Curry as Frank-N-Furter)
Class act. Today shows is like watching paint drying.
Complete master.. Sadly missed❤️
He's been gone 35 years, but it's still hard to believe Kenneth Williams dead. One half expects to turn on the radio to find him incandescent at Nicholas Parsons for some imagined slight.
I feel certain that the American ear has a frightfully difficult time translating this. Not only the breakneck speed of his delivery, but his dialect, the plummyness and also the subject matter are unique.
I can follow most if it and I'm American. It takes some getting used to !
I don't feel certain of that at all. I understand him quite easily and I was born in Oklahoma.
Brilliant, such a funny and interesting man to listen to
I could listen to Kenneth all day hes such a funny fella
Simply wonderful.
Kenneth WiIliams = Legend
I was watching this as a kid and enjoying it…today .. lordy gawd elp em.
Kenneth never owned a television set. He always bought one for his mother Louie, upgrading it over the years e.g. getting her a new colour set in the early 1970s. He would let her have the television, and he would pop round each night, or some nights to watch a few shows with her. Otherwise he hated much of what was pumped out on the then three (later four) UK stations. He much preferred reading, writing, listening to records or to the radio.
I'm not sure that's quite correct. I've seen an interview where he says the reason he didn't have a television is that he wouldn't get anything done as he would watch it too much.
God knows what he would think of today's utter crap
@@MatgoStyles It was Sheila Hancock and Maggie Smith who both said in interviews about Kenneth, that Kenneth never owned a set because of what he felt was the rubbish pumped out. If you read his diary, you can see his contempt for television back then. He felt especially the BBC was a special good old boys club, where they all protected each other, which he hated.
@@johnking5174 Perhaps. His diaries were full of contradictions though so we'll probably never know for sure.
4:19 Who else knew where Makarios served his noviciate??
1st watch - quick and - had to be hysterical for the British Viewers.
Refreshing.
He had such a beautiful voice, and bags of charisma 💚
The greatest showman, comedian and raconteur that ever lived.
The only other comedian comparable was Robin Williams. Both genius and with an intellectual witticism that will never be surpassed.
You will never be forgotten and I hope that you know that you will always be loved.❤
R.I.P Kenneth Williams
Loopy and peerless delightful. Loved hours and hours of him in Just a Minute. Love how he was allowed to fly free in this more of a monologue than interview.
Theres not many people i wished to of met in my life but Kenneth Williams is one of them! Carry on Above Ken ❤ your a Gem
The Greek monk story...."Yer wasting yer time girl"........had me in hysterics. I adore Kenneth Williams and miss him SO much.
Kenneth Williams had cockney, working-class parents and his early career was as a draughtsman drawing maps. He was a self-made man but not in the money sense - he made his own distinctive voice and public persona so well that nobody else could match him during his lifetime and since his rather early death from an overdose of sleeping pills. A one-off who didn't mind laughing at himself. What a dish!
Thank you for posting these videos.i wach you tube More than I do the t v
You can really feel the genuine warmth between these two. KW was usually so guarded in interviews but you can tell here he's totally at ease.
Great video, thanks.
Is it me or at the end it looks like he want to say something we miss you all kenny darlin' xxxxxxxxx
***** He was an original. Hard to to find someone made for you.
+The Governor Excellent point Governor. I'd like to know what he would have added if given the chance.He is absolutely razor sharp! Unlike some interviewees who one can tell are concentrating on what they are about to say, it is clear he is paying very clear attention to the interviewer's words. When Russell Harty mentioned " does she bottom through," Ken was RIGHT on to it.
Great stuff.
Thanks again.
So now I know why Rimmer does that nose thing XD Thanks, Red Dwarf for showing me another S-tier comedian.
Chris Barries bloopers of Red Dwarf also show him mimicking Kenneth Williams
@@YorkshireNutte Chris Barrie was one of the impressionists, amongst many, that worked on Spitting Image...and at the same time Rob Grant and Doug Naylor, that went on to create Red Dwarf were both writers on Spitting Image, again, amongst many. Barrie did it for quite a few years.
OOhh my mosaics? Russell I didn't know you caaared.
Kenneth is so sweet R.I.P.
What a truly great raconteur and entertainer. Only now are people realising what a talent he was. thank fuck for youtube
Tortured genius, I could listen to him for hours.
When I was young could not stand him now ilove him makes me laugh plus he talks a lot of sense
joan brown & nonsense 😂🤣
great interview
What made Kenneth Williams so memorably brilliant wasn't just his obvious erudition but his extraordinary talent to appear so genuinely self-effacing.
Living alone.. That's why he never stops yapping
I love Kenneth Williams, he's gorgeous.😊
He is Amazing
Wasn`t that so refreshing to see!! im not gonna say TV today is rubbish, because its not, but, back in the 70`s and 80`s we were spoilt for talent..thanks for showing this, and btw i was 11 when this was aired for the 1st time
Wonderful soul
if i was a lady in his generation' id totaly want him to be straight for me.. sadly there ern't any men out there.. like kenneth, he was unique
A truly funny man, shame we wont see people of his generation again, because what we have now apart from a few exceptions are just not funny or interesting..Go and get the box set of the carry on films, they`re wonderful
TheLefthand21 Kenneth Horne search
I'm a yank and I didn't get the big laugh there, I barely understood the word he was saying - thanks to your post, I could look the word up: harpic, a brand name of toilet-bowl cleaner, first produced in England back in the 20s
lovely stuff brilliant person
"Round the Horn" Saturday lunch times. Unmissable.
Top of my list of 'Five guest at my table'
Scottish people say 'wire in', or normally 'get wired in' to means get busy/try hard/start eating. Interesting to hear that Kenneth's mother used it in London. to my surprise i can find almost no mention of it anywhere on the internet. So, what he is saying here is a bit of old history being recorded...But ive never heard 'bottom through' before - gonna use that from now on!