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Chopin - Waltz in E minor Op. posth. - analysis, tutorial by Greg Niemczuk

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @micheltoscano5880
    @micheltoscano5880 Рік тому +17

    Not Chopin most popular Waltz but like ALL Chopin music, this piece gets under your skin and never leaves you! ⭐ 🌟 ✨ ⭐

  • @Richard_e_o_piano
    @Richard_e_o_piano Місяць тому +1

    You don't know how this video will help me. I'll perform it tomorrow at a piano competition. Thank you very much, few channels do good musical analysis, but there are none like this. Thanks

  • @vanewfies
    @vanewfies Рік тому +11

    Great analysis for a great waltz. I completely agree with you! And I have ever wondered why Chopin didn't publish it. It's a very rich and original work, full of grace and energy at the same time. I think your discovery about scherzo n.1 similarity is correct and enlighting. Thank you so much for completing the analysis of Chopin posth. work.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому +1

      My pleasure. Thanks for watching so carefully and for your comment!

    • @elliott614
      @elliott614 7 місяців тому

      Didn't he regret fantasie impromptu bc he wrote that one when he was young and ... "immature" (in his own opinion)? I guess perhaps he got plagiarism accusations re: beethoven moonlight sonata movement 3 (one of the last measures)?? (Interestingly in some music scenes, particularly jazz, plagiarism is a concept that makes no sense, other material is seen merely as other tools or constituent parts to be used freely with no concept of ownership, even if more "egregious" than that for which any lawsuit has ever been filed) lol I'm joking. It's hard to say if that would even conceptually be an issue the way it is seen in the modern era with intellectual property laws the way they are, which is not at all how things have always been seen. I'm just saying I don't know, not one way or the other. It's nothing beyond a single descending run. If it were going up or down a more basic scale nobody would even say anything. But these days lawsuits are filed over pop music which is inherently generic and unoriginal, repetitive with only like 2 or 3 looping sections, it's funny but scary for musicians

  • @korotoz7466
    @korotoz7466 2 місяці тому +2

    I love the story. Thank you for analyzing this for us it is very helpful. Love you❤

  • @Tobi619Nr12
    @Tobi619Nr12 Рік тому +5

    Wow, I have waited so long for this Waltz analyzed by you, thank you very much, it is one of my absolute favourite Waltzes by Chopin :)

  • @cellopianopoetryhappinesst4326

    You are absolutely a marvel. Thank you sincerely

  • @elliott614
    @elliott614 7 місяців тому +1

    I learned this one as a little kid (~25 years ago) Nice to hear how its supposed to be played. I listened to some versions online of professionals playing it (prep for recital back then) but the couple i found then played even more immaturely than I did then lol from what I remember anyway (a number of them seemed to see it as a speed contest) havent taken lessons for >15 years, most of that time with nothing to play on [ignoring guitar]. Your videos are very helpful since ive been trying to get back into it on my own recently. Taught myself jeaux deau over the last 3 months (got notes down which is not the same as mastering it by any means), relearning revolutionary etude, trying to improve this one along with a few debussy works to professional level. Double 3rds and some listz transcendental etudes on the side. And polishing moonlight mvmt 3 only bc naive people think that one is so impressive (millions of yt views for adults when i learned that as a little kid... i.e., "pizza delivery guy sees piano and plays THIS unexpectedly")

  • @ahmadrezakhalilian880
    @ahmadrezakhalilian880 8 місяців тому +1

    A comprehensive interpretation of E minor valse. your historical point of view in analysing is valuable.

  • @richardyu4881
    @richardyu4881 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for another great lecture. Your analysis always add so much enjoyment to my listening. You’re the Sherlock Holmes of Chopin’s music. BTW, I’m most patiently waiting for your analysis of the concerti

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому +1

      Hahahahaha, Sherlock Holmes of Chopin's music sounds great!!!

  • @lowjoseph7438
    @lowjoseph7438 3 дні тому

    Really nice piece of classical music. Pleasant to the ears and smooth cadence. Would like to hear a piece of piano concerto in e minor op 11 being played without the orchestra. It would be amazing

  • @cybertaco3602
    @cybertaco3602 Рік тому +2

    my absolute favorite waltz performed by Chopin! It is really underrated compared other pieces like his nocturnes and prelude. I just wish this was a bit more popular than most of the other nocturnes.

  • @kakhigiorgadze8487
    @kakhigiorgadze8487 Рік тому +2

    very excited for this one!

  • @krzysztofmusielak9987
    @krzysztofmusielak9987 Рік тому +2

    Another great lecture master, thank you!!!

  • @briancoveney3080
    @briancoveney3080 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you. It's like the sounds of the entire cocktail party are in there. How 'bout diamonds? Glass slippers & champaign?

  • @andreaswinterhalter
    @andreaswinterhalter Рік тому +3

    Dear Greg, thank you for an other very interresting and inspiring video. My solution for the Concertos, is 2 pianos together with the wonderfull, beautyfull and talented Anna Lipiak😉!

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому +2

      It could also be an option! I'll talk to her about that idea. The question is will she have time to prepare it?

    • @PhilHarrison762
      @PhilHarrison762 Рік тому +1

      What a good idea!

  • @maleph
    @maleph 5 місяців тому

    I love your work and enjoy the great series around Chopin's works. thanx a lot,

  • @hippophile
    @hippophile Рік тому

    Just gave me time for a couple of preludes and a bit of a nocturne... Now I am in the mood :))

  • @PhilHarrison762
    @PhilHarrison762 Рік тому +3

    A very rich video indeed, thank you! Is there any evidence that Chopin pre-prepared a 'portfolio' of pieces to take with him to Vienna? If he did, that helps with the 1830 date (and makes him very foresighted to have realised in advance the need to call the salons to attention with his intro). But if not, then surely the intro puts this into 1831(+) with the Scherzo, as you think AND: NB, his 2 '1829' Waltzes don't have the 'call to attention' intro. BTW, Wikipedia says 1868 for publication and perhaps the lack of an autograph didn't help??? Since you ask.... You could always analyse the Concerti in the 2-piano versions... (😆😆). For my part, though I'd love to hear you play the Concerti with an Orchestra, I'm keener to hear your analysis of the remaining Posthumous piano works. You do seem to have Concerto No 1 well under your fingers however!

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому +1

      He definitely took a lot of music with him from Poland! You're right

  • @elisamartini1694
    @elisamartini1694 Рік тому

    Thank you so much dear Greg. Is it a little jazzy ? You put joy in my heart.

  • @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay
    @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay Рік тому +2

    16:58 made me burst out laughing 😂😂😂

  • @craggyisland8770
    @craggyisland8770 Рік тому

    My guess was before you said…Ballade no 4!…Oh well. Thanks again for your magnificent analysis and performance.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому

      Oh no, Ballade 4 is way too late piece

  • @sandraangot5015
    @sandraangot5015 Рік тому +1

    Great analyse as always ! I didn't know that one. It's funny because when you talked about the scherzo, I was not so surprised, because the intro made me think immediately of a Scherzo ! Thank you for your work.

  • @cellopianopoetryhappinesst4326

    11:37 i’ve never considered chords to be dirty. How original.

  • @davidoganov5032
    @davidoganov5032 Рік тому +1

    Waltz as a dance by its nature it’s intimate because it’s a couple dance , it expresses the passion and connection between a man and a woman .
    This waltz is very romantic and intimate with a deep meaning . I feel as a man that in the part 31:32 he is expressing his anger and rage about something erotic , maybe he was rejected by a woman that he loved or he didn’t dare to express his feelings to her ? Who knows , I am sure 100% it has something to do with women. It’s not difficult to understand Chopin if you are a man ))
    Also maybe because my parents were from the Soviet Union I know personally the beauty and charm of Slavic women so I do understand Frederic’s soul perfectly ))

  • @pianist_noh_hyuntae
    @pianist_noh_hyuntae Рік тому +1

    Thanks for posting a great video, Greg!
    Talking about Scherzo was very interesting!
    I recently became interested in this work so I watched the video with interest
    I'm Korean so I'm not good at English, but I think it was a very interesting analysis video
    Thanks again Greg!

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому +1

      Hi Noh! I can try to make subtitles...they will be automatic but better than nothing!!! Many of my other tutorials have Korean subtitles.

    • @pianist_noh_hyuntae
      @pianist_noh_hyuntae Рік тому

      @@gregniemczuk Make subtitles is definitely a difficult task..
      Fortunately I can hear some English
      Nevertheless I have to study English a lot..
      Anyway thanks for making a great video Greg!

  • @nikocuneo2589
    @nikocuneo2589 6 місяців тому

    your videos are soo much fun if they were more seen more widely that would be awesome

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  6 місяців тому

      Thank you!!!! They will 😊

  • @ministryofdressing
    @ministryofdressing Рік тому

    Yes please only the piano part for the concerto :)

  • @cellopianopoetryhappinesst4326

    8:49 would he ever had improvised, composed on the spot?

  • @izz0408
    @izz0408 8 місяців тому

    Love this. It's so beautiful and rarely heard .. your piano sounds gorgeous. What model are you playing ?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  8 місяців тому +1

      It's a Kawai GM-10. Thank you!

    • @izz0408
      @izz0408 7 місяців тому

      @@gregniemczuk beautifully played. And merry Xmas

  • @janetsommerfeld5210
    @janetsommerfeld5210 10 місяців тому

    May I ask what you think about the RH chord in MM 90 (Ekier edition)? It's written differently in the Paderewski edition. Which is preferred?

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  10 місяців тому +1

      I prefer the Ekier.... But both are acceptable

  • @wangnicole1809
    @wangnicole1809 Рік тому

    Hi, loved your playing and analysis. I was just wondering how you pedalled the section where the right hand goes b, c, f#, a, g, e, c so like the second theme. Thank you.

  • @oceanelf2512
    @oceanelf2512 Рік тому

    I'm surprised you didn't compare that flashy right hand bit to Etude 25-12 instead, since it went up and down octaves with a note in between.

    • @gregniemczuk
      @gregniemczuk  Рік тому

      Yes, I was thinking about that but than I decided to skip it as something quite obvious, and also marginal. I decided that the coda is much more interesting to compare as it shows more when the piece could have been composed. Thanks for pointing this out!!

  • @brandonmacey964
    @brandonmacey964 11 місяців тому

    Wrong note etude

    • @elliott614
      @elliott614 7 місяців тому

      🫤🤔😕😵‍💫?? Explain
      This is indeed waltz in Em. Not Cm, Dm, Fm, etc.

    • @elliott614
      @elliott614 7 місяців тому

      Oh pointing out how some mistakes were made in a one-take ~1Hr video that was meant to be a lecture and not a Performance? Hope not bc thatd be petty af

    • @taiteyard3567
      @taiteyard3567 6 місяців тому +1

      @@elliott614he was making a request for a similar video on Chopin’s Op. 25 no 5 Etude aka the “wrong note Etude.”