So MSI Made A New Gaming Pre-Built...
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
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I bought MSI's new gaming prebuilt and it was a real mixed bag.
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Dawid is a simple man, he see's two sticks of ram he's happy, be like dawid.
4gb x 2 😈😈
@@thesocker7920 😅
but then they don’t apply XMP out of the box so it just kinda cancels out
and then is my laptop which came with 16GB dual channel... with 8GB soldered in
@@odioalospoopers Who would do such a thing !?
I love the "please remove foam from the inside" bit since it apparantly shipped without supportive foam on the inside..
Yup noticed that as well
MSI: Why do people keep returning perfectly functional PCs?
Starlit Partner: Apparently they didn't get the foam "they were promised".
Dawid already removed it 🤔
@@Joreel yeah, probably. But we shall never know i suppose.(well unless he reads this and answers)
@@Grimmwoldds That’s the only explanation. 😂
When I saw the two words 'pre' and 'built' together, I knew this was going to be a fun ride
oh yes dawid just knows how to make prebuilt reviews soooo well
I can't be the only one who's first thought every time is "does it have dual channel RAM?"
@@SteTechGaming That definitely is mine. Even the system having 16Gb doesn’t always mean it’ll be dual channel. 😅
Why are pre-built PCs like this generally so dodgy anyway?
@@indigomizumi very low profit margins. So you generally want to nickel and dime every area you get.
Since I've seen the bundling of MSI Afterburner mentioned multiple times recently - MSI Afterburner isn't a Micro-Star International product, it's being developed by Alexey Nicolaychuk (a.k.a. Unwinder from Guru3D forums), who is also responsible for RivaTuner (and subsequently RTSS), Asus GPU Tweak and formerly EVGA Precision X.
two layers of turtle death is better then one you know
Why do all these pre built cases have less airflow than an Egyptian tomb?
Looks over practicality, I guess.
Hilarious comment!! HAHA
When the bundeled not really e-waste peripherals cost you a "doesn't set the house on fire" powersupply in your pre-build... 😬
well not yet anyways there is always the future for it to light things up on fire
I love how Dawid now has his own jargon for pretty much any PC peripheral out there.
That is the most 2001 PC case layout I've seen in a long time. It's like they took a Windows ME era PC, stripped the case out, decorated it, and installed modern components.
You're probably not wrong
my greatest concern is why Dawid is in a 14c room? its like living inside a freezer at that temp
not quite a freezer but yeah 56 or so farenheight is pretty cold to be wearing short sleeves and being indoors lol.
That’s hot for Canada right? Lol
14° is a freezer?
My room right now is 6°C and I'm loving life lmao
Dawid has a pre-built space heater to keep him warm while gaming... likely can't afford natural gas heat and the electric bill on the pre-built pc close heat system.
I also live in Canada, and yeah it gets cold but jesus Dawid 14C might be time to start the heater.
Guessing he doesn't cause that specific room is mostly unused other than final testing.
Would have been neat to how much temps changed with a 120mm fan added to the front of the case
Yeah, it's pretty weird the MSI original case didn't sport even a single fan there. I guess withholding that one dollar addition is what saves MSI from bankruptcy.
@Unity Tech Future yup lol i remember when i built my first pc i had a deepcool tesseract pc case. Replaced the stock 120mm screamyboi with the 140 from a noctua nh-d15, and jankily ziptied a 120mm to the 5.25 drive bay punch outs. That thing was cool and quiet after that
A pre-built with dual channel RAM.. that feels like it is already christmas :D
mine came with dual channel ram so its not so rare after all
and sauna too
I've had a flawless Cooler Master HAF 932 (High Air Flow) case for a decade, with numerous giant fans and vents everywhere, and it's hilarious to see all the pretty lighted ovens people like now.
“I’m a strong independent woman” 😂😂
Great Video, my little highlight here, the nice prejudice of the never freezing Canadian, 12.7°C, Dawid only in Tshirt, perfectly fine. :D
MSI could have used their own power supplies...
Btw Dawid, always fun and entertaining to watch your videos
Yeah but those are probably more expensive than the ewaste bomb
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it. It’s always weird to me that companies like Asus and MSI don’t use their own parts in they’re prebuilts.
* Their. They're = they are. It's not that hard.
@@DROOtoob there*
@@DawidDoesTechStuff *Their*
Everytime David reviews a pre build his room gets colder
Love watching pre Built vids just too see how building your own is so much better.
Don't underestimate custom builds (i.e. built to order), but yes. Especially since you can save a lot of money.
I have a custom build, because honestly, I can't really be arsed to do the work on a custom loop.
pre builts are better for newcomers though, not everyone has experience building a pc from scratch that takes time to learn
@@moogleking UA-cam exists.
I was looking at a prebuilt back during the pandemic, but decided to hold off and watched youtube videos on how to build one to pass time. When the time came, I built my first PC and it wasn't that hard tbh
@@TheBlueBunnyKen before UA-cam, I read the motherboard manual that gave me the instructions on how to put together my first build, back in 1995. It really helped understand where everything was and what it did.
I recently purchased a computer from CLX Gaming, and it was a great experience. I picked out what parts I wanted, they sent me updates on the progress of my build and their customer support was quick to respond. It even arrived 3 days early!
Perhaps, you should do a tour of some of these Choose Your Own Adventure Semi Pre-Builts?
I'd like to see Dawid hack the old case to get more airflow.
just take a 6-7mm drill bit to the case
honestly, only youtubers care about power supply brands. Being building computers for more than 20 years when you just used the included generic power supply and never have seen a fire or components damaged by it.
Thanks for all your hard work making these videos Dawid. Your sense of humour with your tech knowledge makes for good content!
2012 called they want their case back
That cable management is late 90s level
Early 2000s vibe
I will put in my 2 cents on the Norton, I have personally used it since 1996 with NAV 4.0, there were some bad times around the release of Norton Security in the early 2000s, but mcafee is trash, the first thing I remove when I get a laptop that has it unfortunately preinstalled (looking at you asus) and the IT department has installed it on my work station by surprise and it has taken my previously deliciously fast work station to something that feels like it has a celeron processor in it and a network card that has never heard the phrase "gigabit speed"
A couple of years back I made the mistake of getting an MSI Aegis prebuilt. Had to return it when I realized it had zero ability to define fan curves, and it sounded like a jumbo jet, all the time
Its very odd, MSI have had years making nice motherboards, yet don't seem to have any clue about how to do pre-builds
I had the 5600 XT version of this system with a i5 10th gen. Everything looked good at first. Eventually i would get the screen flickering that would only be fixed with a reboot. Also, i could only have 2 drives in the system. If i added a third, it would not detect which was weird. Went through the bios and all the windows tools i could find to make it work and nothing.
After i did a fresh install of Win11, i had zero issues. I'm guessing MSI did some tinkering to not allow much configuration of their system in the windows image
That would be expected, practically every MSI laptop I have runs better once you reinstall windows. Not sure about the desktops my last boards were gigabyte and Asus but that would be logical.
@@LawrenceMacMacster My current board is a gigabyte aorus board
I am so glad I built my own linux pc. I do have a MSI b560m pro motherboard. I got a little logo sticker. It has an intel i5 11500 cpu w/ big air cooler and fan. Nx 410 case and 600w power. 32GB RAM /1TB M.2 / GTX 1660 Super OC Graphics card. Running Regata OS 22 Linux. I really like how these mid tower cases really keep everything cool. There are 5 fans running but I can barely hear them.
Gamer nexus would have a stroke looking at that air flow for that case
Indeed, he would also choke having found none!
Actually the airflow is correct. In a choked case going all exhaust is the way. With the power consumption of this particular configuration it's good enough.
Dawid is close to 500k subscribers let's get him there.
These kinds of videos are really fun to watch :D
Norton did WHAT???
Jokes aside, a pre-installed program Interrupting during gaming on a gaming system is genuinely unacceptable. Pre-installing Norton should be literally illegal
I love watching dawid, the amount of dedication he has to make these videos is incredible, keep it going.
The build and strip montages seemed to be a bit more smooth than usual, I don't know if you've changed your editing approach, the music fit well and those bits were really nice and montage-y. Good job. Keep on rocking.
I love swapping it into a better case. To make it easier on yourself, you could even go open air test bench.
The inside of the case looks like it uses tooling from 25years ago. They left out some metal that was once reserved for 3,5" drives but all in all the same, just painted on the inside and some plastic on the outside.
When he was opening it he said "I can do this I'm a strong independent women" 🤣🤣🤣 sent me to the floor
Yea, I had to rewind to check if I misheard him
@@lemiru it's awesome lol
The best thing Norton ever created is the stand alone uninstall tool.
Nice. Their new airflow free case design is excellent, and that awesome top mounted power supply circa 1995. ABS is the only prebuilt PC I would buy. They use shitty cases but they don't use weird Chinese brand PSUs or proprietary stuff. I bought one that came with a thermaltake PSU, Intel m.2, 11400f and a gigabyte 3060 eagle oc. (The gpu brand varies)
Powerspec (Microcenters OEM brand) is pretty good, clean Windows installs and no proprietary hardware.
TURTLEDEATH , had me in effin tears !
why the hell is the ambient temp 14 degrees 😂 great review as always, I love your addiction to prebuilts
Its not like Canada is on the equator.
Just Canadia things
Canadian Climate and British/US implementation of heating and insulation. 😉
WAIT DAWID DOESNT LIVE IN AUSTRALIA?
2 layers of turtle death wrappings is beyond acceptable.
I talk too much in class, I think I need to get a be quite fan so I can give my teachers a break.
I know you’re supposed to pick brands based on reviews and warranties, but look at that dragon @ 2:16
Good lord is MSI marketing doing their company a favor. Lucky the dragon is so f-ing amazing at being a brand ambassador, I just want to hug him
hi msi
Thanks, I needed that awesome laugh 👍🏻
And its sidekick, ROG
David*
Dont forget the villains main sidekick: Alma from the land of Acer Nitro
@@mountainclimbr His name is Dawid not David
i bought a Codex R from Costco awhile back and that little thing was a beast I7 10k/3060/16gb/ 2TB. I did not see any heat or bluescreen while i had it. Sold it to build a 5900x 3070ti.
I really liked the 45 angle fan... seems a good idea
It why I chose this case for my very first build. I chose a XFX 6800xt which is huge (330mm), and this fan is absolutely perfect for it
one thing i want to mention, here in Europe (at least in sweden) 99% of prebuilds come with dual channel ram and a decent cooler + decent airflow
cable management is an art, the CPU Power Cables can be tucked behind the PSU, the 24 pin along with other cables including Pcie power can be ziptied to the other deeper end of HHD Cage, Audio cable can be tucked behind the motherboard and atlast all the extra cables can be shoved inside the HDD Cage so that they are not visible.
Dawid doing a case swap? You can tell he had spare time that day
Changing out for an enclosed water cooler unit on the cpu might give a tad better performance too. The new EVGA CLX-series cooling system looks "cool" with its onboard lcd display if you can get your hands on a review unit Dawid.
Allways love a Dawid pre built video
It does not make sense to buy a branded prebuilt and everything inside not be the same brand... MSI for example is making pretty much everything you will need to make your own Desktop.
Dawid deserves well over a million subscribers.
Every time Dawid says his room temperatures I have to double take. It’s always either 14° or like 30° lol
I love these prebuilt videos! Wild ride every time 😂
Excellent video, Dawid! Please keep the Elite case around for more prebuilt testing in the future. A constant component is a great way to test just how stifling these crapboxes are.
8:08 In the BIOS could you please test "AVX-512 Support"? Some motherboards can add back AVX-512 by swapping out an old version of the microcode. That would be an insane feature to add to a cheap prebuilt.
I'm not sure if the 12400 ever had AVX-512, but the 12900/12700's did.
"How to make Dawids life better?"
Me: Give him dual channel ram
Genuinely one of the better prebuilds
Yeah especially a cheaper one with a cheaper GPU.
Most prebuilts seem to use a design that's good for an entry system but stick high end high heat generating parts in them.
Nice to see their keeping cases from 2011 out of the landfill.
yep, anytime i want serial ports, i just pop them out haha
This isnt that bad to be honest!
I know its more expensive, but getting a better PSU and maybe 2 noctua fans (1 intake, 1 exhaust) might help the temps
Or just opening the side panel when using the pc
its only the gpu that is hot, easily fixed with a undervolt without losing any performance.
I'd have to leave that panel open for awhile my cat love the non modular PSU cheap plastic mesh wire covering. That's under warranty no?
in no way you should spend more then 700 bucks for this pc, let alone 1400 bucks which is the current sale price lol
they sell those cheap boxes for much profit, 1000 bucks are their profit atleast and you get the 500 buck part, so its bad, a running car isnt a good car aswell.
I just got the same NZXT case in black as an XMas gift for my friend who just got into PC gaming. I'm so excited to teach him how to build it
You could say the MSI prebuild has a worst Case scenario :)
It's so archaic looking, it's like they found some pallets of old cases they forgot about from mover a decade ago, went "fuck it, this'll do" and threw a PC together in it
I always enjoy getting off from work on Saturday’s and coming home to a new Dawid video
The system is so modular that everything inside is just one module.
I have the aegis r gaming rig its a bit different in intsrnal components now but i love my pc its good enough for me for sure. I have a intel core i7 13700 k nvidia geforce rtx4060 came with 32 gigs of dual channel ram.. I put 2 extra 8 gig sticks i had bought thing works great
that case design is ancient, I mean 5.25 bays at the front (but no way to put a drive into them lol), parallel and serial slot covers on the back, a top mounted power supply
Dawid: the tech youtuber equivalent of idubbbz tv
I’m planning on buying this on Boxing Day is this recommended for a first gaming pc
Dawid vs. MSI needs to be made into a documentary.
pretty decent. the high temps on gpu can be fixed with a mild undervolt.
I'm sorry did this man just pronounce Annex as Annax? 🤣 Came for the tech stayed for the hilarious word jumble 🤣🤣🤣
My 2060 refuses to ramp up to 70° in cyberpunk with high settings. Its always between 59-65°
I’m looking to buy my first gaming pc this month would this still be a decent go to for 1000?
If you're going to go through the effort of transmigrating the innards of the prebuilt into a quality case, I guess I'd suggest clearing the crud out of the OS by resetting it. Depending on your version, I'd guess the easiest way to do that would be under Settings > Update & Security > Recovery. Removing all that bloatware might give a measurable performance boost.
Prebuilt case swaps can indeed make a huge difference. I have an HP Omen 25L that ran ridiculously hot, due to no ventilation in the front and an ewaste CPU cooler---swapped everything into a case with a vented front grill, 2 front fans, and a proper CPU cooler---the difference in temps is like night and day. in fact, the fans don't even ramp up anymore, even while gaming---they don't need to
At that point whats the point in getting a prebuilt then
(unless maybe if your younger cousin or something bought it like that and you dont hate their guts enough to make them suffer through that)
@@Balou_560 Because you're not having to select hardware other than a case, because it's already matched 2) you're not having to manually install drivers. In short, there's no dorking around, everything just works out of the box. Case swaps are incredibly easy
wow right before this video i watched a hard on hardware video its crazy how much ur energy has changed
Sir Dawid, there are many fonts from renowned brands that are made in factories and when assembled into pre-builts they come out with a strange name, but they are very good fonts!!
the statement is ok
This case is so bizarre to me, it feels like something from 2008 with the plaatic not covering all the way side window, the psu on top, the miserable cable management/drivebays at the top, it's bizarre.
Especially sad because the original Codex had a lot of problems but a great case.
So it's a bit like the difference between standing on a lego instead of a landmine. You wouldn't want either to happen but you'd choose the landmine as then you wouldn't feel a thing... I mean the lego.
that case is older than you think, looks like its setup for a dvd drive, and the drive bays are covered by the plastic fascia
Thanks for doing these pre-built reviews. I didn't buy a pre-built but considered one recently, and if I had known your videos beforehand, I would never have considered one.
much like AMD deciding that high temperatures are now "acceptable"... there is nothing wrong with a GPU at 80 degrees celcius... it isnt dangerous at all, it used to be quite normal.
So how many fans are in this unit? One in the front and back or just one in the back?
That’s an old school MATX case. PSU on top, no space under the motherboard and everything has to be stuffed in the main cavity. Works fine without a window but hard to make clean looking compared to new cases.
more videos like this please!! thank u
“Birth that case” lololol these goddamn one liners, man! I could watch Dawid talk about paint drying.
Hey! When Dawid gets sponsored by be quiet! multiple times, it actually makes me think well of the brand.
So like, if you were trying to do advertising or something, well then, good work.
I was watching this whole eating breakfast and was looking out of the corner of my eye and when he said let's check for VDs and started to take the plastic off, the sound and visual made me think he was hosing down the computer.
The new case setup would be greatly improved for a few extra bucks by mounting two fans to the top, pulling air out of the case.
Would have been nice to see you toss a fan or two into the original config before swapping everything to a new case.
And then they charge you and arm and a leg for that system when you could build your own for half the price and get a better power supply, I'm guessing. I don't think I heard the price of this pre-built mentioned anywhere. I'm amazed how easily these companies get away with this kind of thing.
I was directed to this channel by the toasty bros and it’s become my favourite channel without a doubt I’ve binged watched everything he has posted in the past 2 years in like 3 weeks. Dawid made me realize the importance of a dual ram setup. Even with my ddr3 system it made huge a difference. But no worries I’m upgrading big time from LGA 1150 to LGA 1700 so it’s gonna be a good time.
Also I bought that 1150 board new in 2015 😅
This PC reminds me of my old computers like 15 years ago. But without back cable management and a modular PSU this is what you get.
Your videos are so good and helpful to see which one will i buy
I have to know, why do you only keep your house at 60 degrees Fahrenheit? I noticed you have a jacket draped over yourself, but thats just too cold! I noticed a window in one of the shots. Are you in an entrance room to your house that was an addition?
nice i learned a lot , good air flow is really important
I soldered my eyes together after seeing the decades old hard drive cage in the top of the case
i had a msi infinite s 10th gen. never buying a pre built again
@DawidDoesTechStuff of it's not too much trouble could you add running the system without the side panel to show what temperatures would look like if people dont have the budget for an additional case.
Love your commentary and your 2 layers of turtle death had me and the wife in pieces!