What a Mess(iaen)

Original composition using all 7 Messiaen Modes.
Modes of limited transposition are musical modes or scales that fulfill specific criteria relating to their symmetry and the repetition of their interval groups. These scales may be transposed to all twelve notes of the chromatic scale, but at least two of these transpositions must result in the same pitch classes, thus their transpositions are "limited". They were compiled by the French composer Olivier Messiaen, and published in his book La technique de mon langage musical ("The Technique of my Musical Language").

[@dafuchsa9775]

Very nice \(^^)/ And Messiaen Modes sounds way better than the german name for it "Modi mit begrenzten Transpositionsmöglichkeiten" lol

[@philvalade2437]

@dafuchsa9775 thanks!!

[@dylano0126]

Would you see it as Messiaen did when choosing the chord voicings, as in, all the notes of the scale have the same weight/importance? I think that is one of the most important factors to Messiaen's philosophy when it came to these unorthodox ideas. I'm still trying to wrap my head around coming up with these ideas, my vocabulary is a bit limited, and I'm kinda stuck in the more traditional way of looking at music. Any tips? Greatly appreciated.

[@philvalade2437]

@DyLaNoob thanks for your reply. I didn’t see it like Messiaen did, but it’s more like Allan Holdsworth, Ben Monder, Lenny Breau, Mick Goodrick, Ted Greene.
Ben Monder calls them structures.
Make a chord with different intervals, and move it up or down the neck, but stay within the scale’s notes.
The best thing I can suggest is play your favourite voicings, and move a finger up or down, and listen. If it sounds good, tab it.
Hope this helps

[@dylano0126]

@@philvalade2437 Thank you! I've noticed a Holdsworth influence in this too, so that makes more sense. I believe that the key element to getting the most out of these atonal scales is experimenting A LOT with them, I'm kinda guilty of seeing them in this locked pattern, which makes it too recognisable. I believe Allan Holdsworth would often talk about that, making scales unrecognisable through unorthodox patterns and ideas. I'll try out your advice, thank you!!

[@musicman-bq2bf]

Nice work

[@philvalade2437]

Thanks bud!!