@@sinofenvyleviathan7755 Not sure there's enough demand sadly. But hey, once Nostalgia kicks in, I mean it's working for X-Men 97. Or we're gonna get shocked and find out next year's commander class is this.
We’re transformers animated’s designs made with the toys in mind? I can definitely see it considering how well the robot and vehicle modes transition between one another
@@nickvang7 fascinating. The cartoon looks entirely based in toony aesthetics. Doesn’t feel like it was developed with any consideration paid to real-world mechanics.
Yeah, as someone else pointed out there was a lot of communication between the design team and the art team with Animated. They worked very hand-in-hand. That’s how it should be in my opinion. I really liked that the Cybertron trilogy basically used the toys’ CAD models for the animation, although at times it did seem like an extended ad for the toyline.
I remember as a kid, I heard about Wave 3 of Smallest getting cancelled, and was really confused when I got Smallest Hot Rod in my stocking that Christmas, since I was under the impression that that toy was canned with the rest of the wave. It made much more sense when I found out that Hot Rod did get released in a limited capacity... even if the magic of owning an "unreleased" toy faded with that discovery (it wasn't even the original Smallest release, it was the Toys-R-Us Japan red box release that came with Hybrid Style Convoy).
My favorite thing about Transtech Starscream is that, while I understand his head is supposed to be evocative of Machine Wars Starscream, with that chest design he ends up looking more like a toy that was supposed to be a Cybertronian form for Depth Charge.
If I recall, the reason the GI JOE/Transformer crossover figure never released at retail is that both brands were popular but never really at the same time after the 80's. By the time Generation 2 started the Joe line that had been running since the 80's was on its way out
And I wonder if Joe's current struggles are part of why they haven't just dipped into some Joe vehicle alt-modes. We had Snowcat in Energon, but I'd love to see some of those Joe and Cobra vehicles as Transformers. Sure some early Joe vehicles are basically actual military equipment, but tell me you wouldn't buy a Leader or Commander Class Rolling Thunder, or a Titan Class Defiant or USS Flagg.
TJ forgot to mention that, the Beast Wars Unicron prototype had a lot of its molding and engineering reused for Cybertron Primus, so much so, that Primus is actually considered a remold of him. So in a way, we did actually get that Unicron toy after all.
I was gonna comment that, but yea I just noticed how similar BW Unicron is similar to Primus, despite having seen that prototype for years and years now I hope somebody picks up that Unicron design and refines it because I like that Unicron prototype's look
Remolds require the toys to have the same tooling at some level and they do not. They have similar engineering but Primus is much larger than Unicron, and none of their parts are shared. To be extra technical, Unicron was just a resin prototype, so molds never existed for it to be retooled in the first place.
Animated hot Shot and Marauder Megatron are the one i would have liked the most! I didn't even know they planned for Starscream to be in Transtech let alone that a complete resin mold had been made! Mind Blown!
This was a great video & I learned new things & was reminded of things I'd forgotten about- Dropshot. The hype around BW2 Unicron was so awesome back in he day as people were really expecting to get him & then nothing. Videos about prototypes are awesome- thanks again!
I believe someone actually has a 3D print of that triple changer animated Megateon but I don’t remember where, although I think they have yet to release the parts online anyway
Tbh I really wish Legacy would take some of these unused concepts and bring them to the forefront, especially as they're using it as a celebration of transformers history, take and update some of these and just produce them, it could even be a selling point that they're never before seen designs based on old concepts and prototypes like the Star Wars series has been doing lately
TJOmega: "this is one of those times where I'm like looking at third party companies you've got these great photos, you've got all these shots of all their angles someone make it someone please make it" I completely agree with you tthat Starscream and that Megatron
I'm loving this new type of content, TJ! Looking forward to the Beast Wars episode reviews. Plastic Addict brought me to you're channel years ago and I'm here to stay.
You didn't really leave many to consider but I'll mention ten more. I also left out redecos and retools. 10. Crossovers basic class Darth Maul. A cancelled smaller figure. Looks half way decent like his larger counterpart. 9. Revoltech Energon Optimus Prime. I don't much care for the Revoltech line but damn, that's a good looking figure. I think I like it more because it's Energon Optimus Prime in particular. 8. Alternators Deluxe class Smokescreen. I didn't even know there was going to be deluxe sized Alternators. I think had they been released, it might have changed things for CHUG. The standard size Alternators were/are still being used as MP stand ins. Could you imagine what people would've done or still be doing with deluxe versions for a CHUG collection? 7. Titanium Arcee. It's difficult to do any more without mentioning the other Titanium figures you didn't. I definitely would've gotten her back in the day and still kind of want her now. For that matter, I only just finally got Titanium G1 Magnus a few months back so Titanium figures are still on my radar. 6. Titanium Shockwave. Again, have to bring them up. Shockwave looks okay. Better than Arcee but not as good as BB/CJ and Cosmos though. Back when this would've come out I would've loved the gun mode. I don't care so much about inanimate object alt modes now though. They're just boring for the sake of nostalgia. I HATE that Kingdom/Legacy Blaster will only be a boombox. I wish he got the Soundwave treatment with a vehicle then a retool into the boombox. At least Perceptor will have his "tank" mode. Not that it's ever been a complex third mode. 5. Titanium War Within Bumblebee/Cliffjumper. These look really good. I very much still want these. I sold almost all of my Titanium but these are ones I would've kept or sought out had I not gotten them or sold them. I've picked a few back up after having sold them. Mainly RID Optimus and Scourge. I actually have three Scourge now as it was all three for almost the price people are asking for just one. Optimus was meant to be a custom body for TL Cab but I never got around to it. I'm fine with just Optimus though. Optimal Optimus was the only one I kept and I still want that damn Primal Prime...and a PotP version too. 4. Micromaster carrier base. I LOVED Micromasters back in the day. I also loved the GoBots Command Center as it was a playset that held a bunch of toys in it for when I went to grandma's house. This would've been more of the same. It even has a handle. 3. Crossovers Iron Man tricycle combiner. I'm kind of cheating here as I actually own one. It's a really good figure. I just wish his partner came out so I could combine them. Due to the way it transforms for combined mode, it's almost a triple changer as is. It can pull off a flight mode even without War Machine to make the wings and back half of the jet thing. 2. Crossovers War Machine SUB combiner. There has to be some somewhere if Iron Man was found and sold. There were quite a few of them too for that matter. While it doesn't look to be as good a robot as Iron Man, the alt mode and especially the combine mode would more than make up for it. There's really only one thing number one can be as far as I'm concerned. 1. Armada Optimus Prime from Takara. Naval Commander just doesn't stack up to what little we've seen of this prototype. The proportions of the smaller Optimus just don't look good for Naval Commander. They bulked out the torso and shrunk the shoulders. The legs look wonky too. It doesn't even look like Armada Optimus because of that. The combined mode looks okay I guess. Sparkplug looks bad too though. I find it funny that one of the times a company makes a version of an unmade figure it's going to be Megamorphs Thing. Really? Megamorphs? If a third party did figures for Marauder Megatron, Titanium Cosmos, Titanium WWI BB/CJ, Dropshot, the Transtech designs and that War Machine I'd be all over them.
Technically, we did get the Rhinox design in Animated: Lugnut shares very similar proportions in robot mode, and the toy could have some vestigial engineering with how the arms transform into the wings (assuming Rhinox would have a land-based vehicle mode, where the upper mass of the body would transform into treads/wheels for the alt mode).
We did get a GI Joe transformer though. In 2015 a scout class combiner wars toy for Viper was released. It is a purple repaint of Powerglide, and has a Cobra symbol around the decepticon one. But, we have not gotten any that work with GI Joe figures yet.
If Hasbro were smart, since there's still fan demand, they had so many resources for it and Young Justice already set a Precident, they should just revive Animated, beyond the hot shot and megatron we've just seen they had that cool Ironhide and their Powermaster Optimus Design, yes through 3d printing and customs some of these designs have managed to surface but the world, and their crew, deserves to see those concepts truly realised.
Animated Marauder Megatron and TransTech Starscream look awesome. I hope they make those in Legacy, even as an homage for hardcore fans like Selects Super Megatron. TransTech may have never been but it's so infamous it's basically part of Transformers history.
In response to the discussion at the end about triple changers that don't sacrifice anything, I'd like to put forward the criminally underrated Earthrise Snapdragon. Maybe one could argue that the fists in the boosters are a sacrifice but imo that was the figure that finally dethroned generations Springer and Sandstorm in terms of having 3 modes without really sacrificing anything. Maybe the beast mode could have had more articulation but beast mode articulation isn't something you can count on consistently even in figures that only turn into beasts.
Yesss I love Snapdragon! He got me to start collecting again! For my money the Titans Return Megatron/Blitzwing mold is also fantastic, I have both versions
@@Cdr2002 TR Megatron? Heck yeah, that's another fun one, though each mode definitely has it's compromises. It was my go-to generations Megatron until I finally got the Netflix repaint of Siege Megs.
I learned of the original 80s Unicron prototype in ToyFair magazine in 1995. People were amazed when I spoke of it existence and couldn't wait to see the magazine. It was priceless to show them the photo and see there imagination meet reality lol.
Don't think GI Joe is "dieing a death at retail." Classifieds is selling so well that they brought back the 3 & 3/4 Joes (not sure those will take off.) Hasbro said the 6 inch Joe's are hard to find because they grossly underestimated the demand.
That Hotrod design for Transformers Heroes looks suspiciously like the Garland motorcycle mecha in Megazone 23, an obscure set of four 80s as hell anime movies.
I think the closest thing to a true crossover with GI Joe at retail would be Generations Decepticon Viper, since it actually incorporated a Cobra Logo. I also wouldn't say GI Joe is failing at retail. Classified is immensely successful, outside of the Snake Eyes movie stuff nobody really wants or asked for.
I don't know why they didn't reuse those designs in another toy line. I mean Beast Machines Air Attack Optimus Primal, Cerberus, and Megatron Megabolt all got released in the RID2001 toy line. As long as they already had Protypes in production there's no reason to waist those molds when we know they already exist. Shove them into Transformers Legacy, cause I also want those Transtech figures.
Aw man I remember reading those Dreamwave Armada Comics and seeing Dropshot and loving his design and trying to find his figure only to find out he was based on an unreleased G1 figure. I really wish We had gotten a Season 4 of Animated so we could have gotten that Marauder Megatron. That design was so beautiful and I think when he was designed they actually inspired by the Battlestars Super Megatron if I remember correctly
I don't really mind that #10 Unicron. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Yes, it doesn't really look like animated Unicron, but that's true to varying degrees with plenty of older Transformers toys. (Some of which were barely functional, much less series-accurate.) It *looks* like it could be a classic toy design for a Unicron figure. As for the planet shell on his back, even the super expensive recent Haslab Unicron stacks the planet shell onto the back of the figure. The main difference is that Haslab tried to hide the shell from the front view, while the old prototype just embraced it as part of the robot mode's design.
Honestly I really wish we got to see more stuff like Transtech when it came to making new designs for older characters. Right now it's just boring to have the same vehicles and bots across several different toy lines where the only distinction is child-friendly art style of slavish G1 Accuracy with some greebles.
I have to wonder just how painful those Transtechs would have been to transform. There were some... Not so fun ones the Beast Era, and Car Robots. With Fossilizers I'm hopeful that some of the more unusual stuff might get the waters tested via a few figures slipped in.
I see all these pictures of character designs and toy prototypes for the proposed 4th season of Animated and I get sad. What a missed opportunity that was. Easily one of my favorite TF lines of that era.
Don't know if this one counts but the ROTF Voyager Jet Power Optimus that came with Jetfire parts was an awesome looking set that didn't come out. The brand new parts were various pieces of Jetfire that only added to Optimus to beef him up just like in the movie. That Optimus was also the best painted version of that mold. Again I don't know if this counts as it's fully painted and pretty much a previous Optimus mold loaded with brand new parts to upgrade him, but dang, those parts alone just bums me out that it didn't get released.
Warning, a lot of these are animated Me: oh boy I don’t know whether to become more disappointed or more excited P.S. have you seen the videos from the Transformers Animated Season 4 guy on UA-cam interviewing someone (I forgot there exact position) who worked on the show?
Completely agree about 3rd party Transtech. I've been wondering for years how on earth nobody has yet bothered to release Transtech figures and a proper IDW Nova Prime, just like that 500 dollar one that never got released, remember? But instead even 3rd parties are starting to fall in the boring repetition of G1 variants and movie variants and little else.
For triple-changing TFs with a beast and a vehicle alt mode you forgot about Double Dealer and TR Alpha Trion. And maybe a couple of others. And TransTech Starscream's head looks a lot like Depth Charge but I know there's already a TransTech Depth Charge. And Marauder Megatron could as well be The Fallen.
Can’t remember if it had a resin mould or not, but i’ve seen designs for a second double-spy that never came out with a jet mode and he looks cool. I wonder if he would have had a similar naming scheme to Punch-Counterpunch, like Strike-Counterstrike or Stab-Backstab…
No.9, re: cost issues After resin, mold tolerances are your biggest cost. Except the tolerance cost is pretty much dollar-per-millimetre, not dollar-per-percent-of-total-size. So something a metre across but allowing 5mm of tolerance will be cheaper than something 20cm across but needing sub-milllimetre tolerances. And when we get to those Smallest Transformers... If you look at Ravage, the full size of some of his parts are smaller than some allowable tolerances for full size figures.
TJ, a universe where Beast Machines is a hit is a Universe where we *didn't* get RiD2001. No matter how cool Transtech may have been... it ain't worth the series that gave us Sky-Byte and Scourge/Nemesis Prime! ;)
And yeah there were people that wanted Transtech, but there was also at least as much fatigue for the Beast Wars characters and continuity, and a lot of people just wanted to see what modern engineering could do with realistic vehicle alt modes.
I'll say when I look back at animated the show was pretty good and the toys were perfect honestly, I know people don't enjoy the show as much but we can all agree the toys were basically perfect.
G.I*.JOE Transformers is a toyline that I think HASBRO has really missed out on. I recall the Powerglide repaint as a COBRA Rattler being made as some exclusive somewhere. But I really think the HASBRO dropped the ball again on at least one other repaint they could've done too. There was that movie related (he wasn't in the the movies anywhere) HFTD Seaspray figure made, that I think could have been repainted and sold as the G.I.*JOE KILLER W.H.A.L.E. hovercraft. but alas.......
Viper was mass market... He just was very popular it seems, I regret not grabbing him when I had the chance, but I was really tight on cash. Though according to the Wiki, Viper shelfwarmed in Asia.
I mean considering the play value the other leader class Animated figures had... Hell I'm not sure what black magic enabled Animated Shockwave, but I'm glad it did.
That rhinox and rodimus may look great but have you seen prime's fig? The prototype makes the fig's upper waist impossible to transform. And megatron looks like a bigger generic seeker in green
transtech cheetor kind of looks a little bit like Animated Blurr, especially with the big hollow wheels that ended up in the calves...I wish that more transformers looked like animated Blurr...well we got Generations Chromia but maybe more than that...or do I just want a Tron crossover transformer?
Unicron was as tall as the Beast Wars Optimal Optimus the mold was on display at a conventional dna fan bought the mold with the idea to make and sell copies but that never came about there was 2 Unicron versions not just one. The Other mod shared a lot of things with the Armada version like the split open chest thou larger. There are so many other figures that you skipped on with a lot being at the end of G1.
I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have to worry about constant G1 designs if Transtech had happened, because I'm pretty sure it would have killed Transformers. It's only appealing because it didn't happen.
Some of these prototypes could easily be made into their own characters
Marauder Megatron is such an amazing prototype, I agree, I hope we one day see a return of it someday.
They should bring back the show, like how clone wars got brought back
@@sinofenvyleviathan7755 Not sure there's enough demand sadly. But hey, once Nostalgia kicks in, I mean it's working for X-Men 97.
Or we're gonna get shocked and find out next year's commander class is this.
Didn't it become 3D printable?
Marauder Megatron should have been done. A fourth in season of Animated should have been done! It would have been interesting to see.
We sorta got him now with concept Megatron, considering it was based off Marauder Megatron.
We’re transformers animated’s designs made with the toys in mind? I can definitely see it considering how well the robot and vehicle modes transition between one another
Yes they were made with good communication and cooperation between the cartoon and toy designers.
@@nickvang7 fascinating. The cartoon looks entirely based in toony aesthetics. Doesn’t feel like it was developed with any consideration paid to real-world mechanics.
guess they felt to weird and way off
hot rod and rhinox do look like they dont deserve to be in the transformers universe
Yeah, as someone else pointed out there was a lot of communication between the design team and the art team with Animated. They worked very hand-in-hand. That’s how it should be in my opinion. I really liked that the Cybertron trilogy basically used the toys’ CAD models for the animation, although at times it did seem like an extended ad for the toyline.
Legacy, third-party companies, and possible future toylines might give these unproduced figures a second chance at life.
I think Legacy would be a great place to make the transtech toys. They would sell fantastically.
I remember as a kid, I heard about Wave 3 of Smallest getting cancelled, and was really confused when I got Smallest Hot Rod in my stocking that Christmas, since I was under the impression that that toy was canned with the rest of the wave. It made much more sense when I found out that Hot Rod did get released in a limited capacity... even if the magic of owning an "unreleased" toy faded with that discovery (it wasn't even the original Smallest release, it was the Toys-R-Us Japan red box release that came with Hybrid Style Convoy).
Marauder Megatron could work great as The Fallen, I think.
My favorite thing about Transtech Starscream is that, while I understand his head is supposed to be evocative of Machine Wars Starscream, with that chest design he ends up looking more like a toy that was supposed to be a Cybertronian form for Depth Charge.
If I recall, the reason the GI JOE/Transformer crossover figure never released at retail is that both brands were popular but never really at the same time after the 80's. By the time Generation 2 started the Joe line that had been running since the 80's was on its way out
And I wonder if Joe's current struggles are part of why they haven't just dipped into some Joe vehicle alt-modes. We had Snowcat in Energon, but I'd love to see some of those Joe and Cobra vehicles as Transformers. Sure some early Joe vehicles are basically actual military equipment, but tell me you wouldn't buy a Leader or Commander Class Rolling Thunder, or a Titan Class Defiant or USS Flagg.
@@brettwood1351 Which one is the USS Flagg?
@@zafool4997 The Joe's Aircraft carrier, AKA the toy bigger than the kids that got it.
a.k.a Autobot Broadside…
seems the scale difference would be a problem
TJ forgot to mention that, the Beast Wars Unicron prototype had a lot of its molding and engineering reused for Cybertron Primus, so much so, that Primus is actually considered a remold of him. So in a way, we did actually get that Unicron toy after all.
I was gonna comment that, but yea I just noticed how similar BW Unicron is similar to Primus, despite having seen that prototype for years and years now
I hope somebody picks up that Unicron design and refines it because I like that Unicron prototype's look
Remolds require the toys to have the same tooling at some level and they do not. They have similar engineering but Primus is much larger than Unicron, and none of their parts are shared. To be extra technical, Unicron was just a resin prototype, so molds never existed for it to be retooled in the first place.
Animated hot Shot and Marauder Megatron are the one i would have liked the most! I didn't even know they planned for Starscream to be in Transtech let alone that a complete resin mold had been made! Mind Blown!
This was a great video & I learned new things & was reminded of things I'd forgotten about- Dropshot. The hype around BW2 Unicron was so awesome back in he day as people were really expecting to get him & then nothing. Videos about prototypes are awesome- thanks again!
I believe someone actually has a 3D print of that triple changer animated Megateon but I don’t remember where, although I think they have yet to release the parts online anyway
They released the files for free ages ago
Tbh I really wish Legacy would take some of these unused concepts and bring them to the forefront, especially as they're using it as a celebration of transformers history, take and update some of these and just produce them, it could even be a selling point that they're never before seen designs based on old concepts and prototypes like the Star Wars series has been doing lately
I still find the Prototype of THAT Unicron muuuuch better looking than the Haslab one.
TJOmega: "this is one of those times where I'm like looking at third party companies you've got these great photos, you've got all these shots of all their angles someone make it someone please make it" I completely agree with you tthat Starscream and that Megatron
Third party companies: "No, can't do. We have to make more Journey to the West transformers for literally no reason."
I'm loving this new type of content, TJ! Looking forward to the Beast Wars episode reviews. Plastic Addict brought me to you're channel years ago and I'm here to stay.
You didn't really leave many to consider but I'll mention ten more. I also left out redecos and retools.
10. Crossovers basic class Darth Maul. A cancelled smaller figure. Looks half way decent like his larger counterpart.
9. Revoltech Energon Optimus Prime. I don't much care for the Revoltech line but damn, that's a good looking figure. I think I like it more because it's Energon Optimus Prime in particular.
8. Alternators Deluxe class Smokescreen. I didn't even know there was going to be deluxe sized Alternators. I think had they been released, it might have changed things for CHUG. The standard size Alternators were/are still being used as MP stand ins. Could you imagine what people would've done or still be doing with deluxe versions for a CHUG collection?
7. Titanium Arcee. It's difficult to do any more without mentioning the other Titanium figures you didn't. I definitely would've gotten her back in the day and still kind of want her now. For that matter, I only just finally got Titanium G1 Magnus a few months back so Titanium figures are still on my radar.
6. Titanium Shockwave. Again, have to bring them up. Shockwave looks okay. Better than Arcee but not as good as BB/CJ and Cosmos though. Back when this would've come out I would've loved the gun mode. I don't care so much about inanimate object alt modes now though. They're just boring for the sake of nostalgia. I HATE that Kingdom/Legacy Blaster will only be a boombox. I wish he got the Soundwave treatment with a vehicle then a retool into the boombox. At least Perceptor will have his "tank" mode. Not that it's ever been a complex third mode.
5. Titanium War Within Bumblebee/Cliffjumper. These look really good. I very much still want these. I sold almost all of my Titanium but these are ones I would've kept or sought out had I not gotten them or sold them. I've picked a few back up after having sold them. Mainly RID Optimus and Scourge. I actually have three Scourge now as it was all three for almost the price people are asking for just one. Optimus was meant to be a custom body for TL Cab but I never got around to it. I'm fine with just Optimus though. Optimal Optimus was the only one I kept and I still want that damn Primal Prime...and a PotP version too.
4. Micromaster carrier base. I LOVED Micromasters back in the day. I also loved the GoBots Command Center as it was a playset that held a bunch of toys in it for when I went to grandma's house. This would've been more of the same. It even has a handle.
3. Crossovers Iron Man tricycle combiner. I'm kind of cheating here as I actually own one. It's a really good figure. I just wish his partner came out so I could combine them. Due to the way it transforms for combined mode, it's almost a triple changer as is. It can pull off a flight mode even without War Machine to make the wings and back half of the jet thing.
2. Crossovers War Machine SUB combiner. There has to be some somewhere if Iron Man was found and sold. There were quite a few of them too for that matter. While it doesn't look to be as good a robot as Iron Man, the alt mode and especially the combine mode would more than make up for it.
There's really only one thing number one can be as far as I'm concerned.
1. Armada Optimus Prime from Takara. Naval Commander just doesn't stack up to what little we've seen of this prototype. The proportions of the smaller Optimus just don't look good for Naval Commander. They bulked out the torso and shrunk the shoulders. The legs look wonky too. It doesn't even look like Armada Optimus because of that. The combined mode looks okay I guess. Sparkplug looks bad too though.
I find it funny that one of the times a company makes a version of an unmade figure it's going to be Megamorphs Thing. Really? Megamorphs? If a third party did figures for Marauder Megatron, Titanium Cosmos, Titanium WWI BB/CJ, Dropshot, the Transtech designs and that War Machine I'd be all over them.
I started to print out animated megatron 2 years ago but I just give up. Now I have an inspiration to finish it. Thank you!
Technically, we did get the Rhinox design in Animated: Lugnut shares very similar proportions in robot mode, and the toy could have some vestigial engineering with how the arms transform into the wings (assuming Rhinox would have a land-based vehicle mode, where the upper mass of the body would transform into treads/wheels for the alt mode).
We did get a GI Joe transformer though. In 2015 a scout class combiner wars toy for Viper was released. It is a purple repaint of Powerglide, and has a Cobra symbol around the decepticon one. But, we have not gotten any that work with GI Joe figures yet.
If Hasbro were smart, since there's still fan demand, they had so many resources for it and Young Justice already set a Precident, they should just revive Animated, beyond the hot shot and megatron we've just seen they had that cool Ironhide and their Powermaster Optimus Design, yes through 3d printing and customs some of these designs have managed to surface but the world, and their crew, deserves to see those concepts truly realised.
Animated Marauder Megatron and TransTech Starscream look awesome. I hope they make those in Legacy, even as an homage for hardcore fans like Selects Super Megatron. TransTech may have never been but it's so infamous it's basically part of Transformers history.
Marauder megatron is one of the best Megatron designs IMO, love how they took the Beast Machine mask
adorable when someone talks about a Decade(80s) they are so far removed from and could never comprehend like they lived it
In response to the discussion at the end about triple changers that don't sacrifice anything, I'd like to put forward the criminally underrated Earthrise Snapdragon. Maybe one could argue that the fists in the boosters are a sacrifice but imo that was the figure that finally dethroned generations Springer and Sandstorm in terms of having 3 modes without really sacrificing anything. Maybe the beast mode could have had more articulation but beast mode articulation isn't something you can count on consistently even in figures that only turn into beasts.
Yesss I love Snapdragon! He got me to start collecting again!
For my money the Titans Return Megatron/Blitzwing mold is also fantastic, I have both versions
@@Cdr2002 TR Megatron? Heck yeah, that's another fun one, though each mode definitely has it's compromises. It was my go-to generations Megatron until I finally got the Netflix repaint of Siege Megs.
Wow. The transtech Starscream does look cool. Though the facesculpt reminds me more of Beast Wars Depth Charge
I think I first got online _just_ at the tail end of the hype over that Unicron. Man, memories.
I learned of the original 80s Unicron prototype in ToyFair magazine in 1995. People were amazed when I spoke of it existence and couldn't wait to see the magazine. It was priceless to show them the photo and see there imagination meet reality lol.
Yeah, and I remember when Armada Unicron got announced and was the cover shot. I think I still have that issue somewhere...
The one I always think about is that TFA Omega Supreme prototype that was making rounds some time back.
Don't think GI Joe is "dieing a death at retail." Classifieds is selling so well that they brought back the 3 & 3/4 Joes (not sure those will take off.) Hasbro said the 6 inch Joe's are hard to find because they grossly underestimated the demand.
The Megatron mold actually reminds me of the design of Mazinger especially the head.
That Hotrod design for Transformers Heroes looks suspiciously like the Garland motorcycle mecha in Megazone 23, an obscure set of four 80s as hell anime movies.
I think the closest thing to a true crossover with GI Joe at retail would be Generations Decepticon Viper, since it actually incorporated a Cobra Logo. I also wouldn't say GI Joe is failing at retail. Classified is immensely successful, outside of the Snake Eyes movie stuff nobody really wants or asked for.
Don't forget Energon Snow Cat...
And now we're getting a Megatron that transforms into a 3 3/4 scale H.I.S.S. Tank.
9:23 Wow I would’ve loved that Hot Shot toy if I was still because Armada Was my introduction to Transformers.
As always very enjoyable. I agree with you all those prototypes should've been released at retail
Agreed. Marauder Megatron is astounding. I truly liked animated. This could have worked for Beast Machines incredibly and we all know how that went.
I don't know why they didn't reuse those designs in another toy line. I mean Beast Machines Air Attack Optimus Primal, Cerberus, and Megatron Megabolt all got released in the RID2001 toy line. As long as they already had Protypes in production there's no reason to waist those molds when we know they already exist. Shove them into Transformers Legacy, cause I also want those Transtech figures.
"Half the planet's on its back"
Are we just gonna pretend the Haslab unicron didn't do the exact same thing?
funny enough the G.I. Joe X Transformers crossover one is like the return of its Diaclone roots but bigger.
Aw man I remember reading those Dreamwave Armada Comics and seeing Dropshot and loving his design and trying to find his figure only to find out he was based on an unreleased G1 figure. I really wish We had gotten a Season 4 of Animated so we could have gotten that Marauder Megatron. That design was so beautiful and I think when he was designed they actually inspired by the Battlestars Super Megatron if I remember correctly
I don't really mind that #10 Unicron. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Yes, it doesn't really look like animated Unicron, but that's true to varying degrees with plenty of older Transformers toys. (Some of which were barely functional, much less series-accurate.) It *looks* like it could be a classic toy design for a Unicron figure. As for the planet shell on his back, even the super expensive recent Haslab Unicron stacks the planet shell onto the back of the figure. The main difference is that Haslab tried to hide the shell from the front view, while the old prototype just embraced it as part of the robot mode's design.
Marauder Megatron could easily work as a generations Fallen with the right retooling and paint deco.
Marauder Megatron's jet mode looks like The Phoenix from "Battle of the Planets".
Honestly I really wish we got to see more stuff like Transtech when it came to making new designs for older characters. Right now it's just boring to have the same vehicles and bots across several different toy lines where the only distinction is child-friendly art style of slavish G1 Accuracy with some greebles.
I have to wonder just how painful those Transtechs would have been to transform. There were some... Not so fun ones the Beast Era, and Car Robots. With Fossilizers I'm hopeful that some of the more unusual stuff might get the waters tested via a few figures slipped in.
I see all these pictures of character designs and toy prototypes for the proposed 4th season of Animated and I get sad. What a missed opportunity that was. Easily one of my favorite TF lines of that era.
Transtech: Making the headsculpts of the Movie line look good.
Honorable mention to armada prime. It got so far but apparently they couldn’t agree on a price. Hopefully he might see release in legacy.
Yeah it could definitely be commander class with the base mode and combination form
Animated Season 4 being cancelled is practically our Spectacular Spider-Man being cancelled.
I know this list excludes remolds but I'm never going to forget how close we were to getting Armada Demolishor in Combiner Wars. (Onslaught remold)
I'm still mad that we never got the WFC Trilogy Armada Optimus Prime
TransTech Starscream's face sculpt gives me real Beast Wars Depth Charge vibes
Do I detect some shade at Haslab Unicron? "Half the planet is hanging off it's back"...😏
Don't know if this one counts but the ROTF Voyager Jet Power Optimus that came with Jetfire parts was an awesome looking set that didn't come out. The brand new parts were various pieces of Jetfire that only added to Optimus to beef him up just like in the movie. That Optimus was also the best painted version of that mold. Again I don't know if this counts as it's fully painted and pretty much a previous Optimus mold loaded with brand new parts to upgrade him, but dang, those parts alone just bums me out that it didn't get released.
Never got to prototype stage but Classics Soudwave looked AMAZING
Warning, a lot of these are animated
Me: oh boy I don’t know whether to become more disappointed or more excited
P.S. have you seen the videos from the Transformers Animated Season 4 guy on UA-cam interviewing someone (I forgot there exact position) who worked on the show?
yo that Tripple Changer Megatron looks sick as hell. i would repurpose him as Dreamwave The Fallen
If i remember correctly years ago, there was a ko company, that was going to release a upscaled beast wars neo unicron
Completely agree about 3rd party Transtech. I've been wondering for years how on earth nobody has yet bothered to release Transtech figures and a proper IDW Nova Prime, just like that 500 dollar one that never got released, remember? But instead even 3rd parties are starting to fall in the boring repetition of G1 variants and movie variants and little else.
For triple-changing TFs with a beast and a vehicle alt mode you forgot about Double Dealer and TR Alpha Trion. And maybe a couple of others.
And TransTech Starscream's head looks a lot like Depth Charge but I know there's already a TransTech Depth Charge.
And Marauder Megatron could as well be The Fallen.
8:57 If that toy came out on store shelves, I would have my mom get me on of those.
Can’t remember if it had a resin mould or not, but i’ve seen designs for a second double-spy that never came out with a jet mode and he looks cool.
I wonder if he would have had a similar naming scheme to Punch-Counterpunch, like Strike-Counterstrike or Stab-Backstab…
No.9, re: cost issues
After resin, mold tolerances are your biggest cost. Except the tolerance cost is pretty much dollar-per-millimetre, not dollar-per-percent-of-total-size. So something a metre across but allowing 5mm of tolerance will be cheaper than something 20cm across but needing sub-milllimetre tolerances.
And when we get to those Smallest Transformers... If you look at Ravage, the full size of some of his parts are smaller than some allowable tolerances for full size figures.
TJ, a universe where Beast Machines is a hit is a Universe where we *didn't* get RiD2001. No matter how cool Transtech may have been... it ain't worth the series that gave us Sky-Byte and Scourge/Nemesis Prime! ;)
And yeah there were people that wanted Transtech, but there was also at least as much fatigue for the Beast Wars characters and continuity, and a lot of people just wanted to see what modern engineering could do with realistic vehicle alt modes.
Animated megatron prototype looks awesome and hot shot 😭😭😭😩😩❤❤
3:24 ok have to stop you there I already love worlds smallest but the fact I could get small G1 transformers that transform is stinking amazing!!!!
I'll say when I look back at animated the show was pretty good and the toys were perfect honestly, I know people don't enjoy the show as much but we can all agree the toys were basically perfect.
G.I*.JOE Transformers is a toyline that I think HASBRO has really missed out on.
I recall the Powerglide repaint as a COBRA Rattler being made as some exclusive somewhere.
But I really think the HASBRO dropped the ball again on at least one other repaint they could've done too.
There was that movie related (he wasn't in the the movies anywhere) HFTD Seaspray figure made,
that I think could have been repainted and sold as the G.I.*JOE KILLER W.H.A.L.E. hovercraft.
but alas.......
Viper was mass market... He just was very popular it seems, I regret not grabbing him when I had the chance, but I was really tight on cash. Though according to the Wiki, Viper shelfwarmed in Asia.
I'm over here waiting for someone to acknowledge the Bandito Spider Double Pretender. Funpub gave us Oilmaster, gen selects could finish the duo.
#6: There's also Doubledealer. He has a bot, beast and vehicle mode as well.
If you really want a gi joe crossover i recommend energon snowcat. Granted you cant put gi's in it but it counts
Transtech starscream reminds me of beast wars depthcharge which is ironic because he was supposed to be in that line too
Thankfully G.I.Joe classified is actually doing so well at retail it survived the movie bombing.
transtech and animated season 4....Such a dream!
While Transtech Starscream would have been nice, that much clear plastic would have made it a time bomb.
Rest in peice dropshot.
I'd buy a generations Dropshot. Anyone else?
2:00 That Unicron looks AMAZING. Dumb Hasbro
If that Marauder Megatron came out, I would have played with it all day
I mean considering the play value the other leader class Animated figures had... Hell I'm not sure what black magic enabled Animated Shockwave, but I'm glad it did.
that 4" triple changer looks more like a gobot than a transformer
With the legacy toy line they should turn these prototypes into actual toys I think they will fit the line very well
That rhinox and rodimus may look great but have you seen prime's fig? The prototype makes the fig's upper waist impossible to transform. And megatron looks like a bigger generic seeker in green
WE GOT IT, GIJOE/TRANSFORMERS JUST CAME OUT, THEY ARE GREAT!!! BUMBLE BEE & MEGATRON GIJOES CROSSOVERS!
I’d love to see Transformers: Animated stuff in Legacy.
Man, Animated getting cancelled was the worst! It cost us both a great show and a whole mountain’s worth of good toys
That triple changer is what skylinx should have been.
I always blamed the revenge of the fallen movie for the cancellation of animated provably because it would have to many transformers stuff in retail
transtech cheetor kind of looks a little bit like Animated Blurr, especially with the big hollow wheels that ended up in the calves...I wish that more transformers looked like animated Blurr...well we got Generations Chromia but maybe more than that...or do I just want a Tron crossover transformer?
Cant wait for plastic addict to return💪💪💪
Wow, I totally concur with your number one pick. I wonder if anyone has the the program for it. It could probably be recreated locally.
Unicron was as tall as the Beast Wars Optimal Optimus the mold was on display at a conventional dna fan bought the mold with the idea to make and sell copies but that never came about there was 2 Unicron versions not just one. The Other mod shared a lot of things with the Armada version like the split open chest thou larger. There are so many other figures that you skipped on with a lot being at the end of G1.
16:55 I hope this toy gets released in the Transformers Legacy toy line.
there is still hope yet, Legacy is on the horizon, maybe they'll release some of these mothballed designs in a premium subseries
Transtech! That shit’s my holy grail!
Hot Shot from Transformers Prime is a really nice version.
TJ, I am missin your intro man., what happen to it? It rocks man
I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have to worry about constant G1 designs if Transtech had happened, because I'm pretty sure it would have killed Transformers. It's only appealing because it didn't happen.
I honestly thought that triplechanger animated megatron was the version of animated the fallen.
I see the Hidden Primus influences
Honestly the last megatron I know this might be a stretch but I can kind of see being Tarn
You would think that a toy gijoe/transformers crossover would be obvious. Despite the comics, the cartoons have hinted at it.