Man, we called these consoles underpowered when they came out. The fact they still can keep up 4 years after it's lifecycle was suppose to end is beyond impressive. We've never seen obsolete consoles support the majority of main commerical games for this long. The PS2 was mostly only doing Sports games by this point.
Eh no, you BELIEVED "these consoles were underpowered when they came out" because often Digital Foundry and other so called videogame reviewers and framerate analysis people tend to come from and be PC platform ELITISTS. Think about it, was there "true" multi CPU/thread via SPU/CU programming on PC before PS3 (even the Sega Saturn) and X360 launched halfway in the 2000s? Then ask yourself just how many actual game developers were using the SEVEN CPU COREs (iirc both have eight core CPUs but one core is reserved for the O.S.) of base PS4 and Xbone? note also that both base PS4 and Xbone have GPUs with Compute Units which FURTHER add computational power which essentially is intended to remove the burden or free up the use of the seven CPU cores because those CUs can handle post processing and additional physics and particle effects and LIGHTING the latter being the most computational intensive process and that is assuming you have really competent game devs who actually program those effects in shipping retail videogames and that really just tells you that just like the old NES, the most advanced graphics and effects videogames ended up appearing towards either four to six years after the console launched (considering Nintendo FamiCom launched in Japan in 1983) which just further goes to prove and show that "consoles" specs are irrelevant because it really depends on game programmers/devs either trying or coasting. PS5 and XbsX alone (not including PS5Pro) are already flexing their computational power with Ray Tracing global illumination effects but those effects depend on game devs improving, they cannot just pull the most advanced techniques when the console launched and that is the lesson.
I remember back in 2014 gamers deemed PS4 & Xbox One to be too underpowered (mobile CPU etc.) and said they would be outdated quickly. 10 years later the latest AAA games are being ported to PS4 & Xbox One with stable performance & good visuals lmao. Devs are working miracles with those Jaguar cores.
But it is ridiculously underpowered lol why do you think games rarely ever ran at 60 fps even on the enhanced consoles? It's because the jaguar was a huge mistake. The cpu is garbage The gpu is good, and the tools devs have are excellent by now. Plus this engine was made for ps4 so why would it not run good???
The CPU is heavily underpowered but it’s all they had to work with for the consoles. They understand how weak the CPU is but can work around it if they really need to
Yea I remember 2014. Cod Ghosts ran at 900p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox One. And then Battlefield 4 1080p and 720p respectively. I remember that being a big deal.
@@AndrewTSq The story is really damn good with a big twist. Just platinumed the game some weeks ago, and I can confidently say, this is one of the best games this gen, and the best Star Wars game after KoTOR 2.
@@ColdFear6666yea its a really great game but imo the image quality was the biggest problem not the performance. I played the whole game in res mode at launch and never had any issues except for a couple areas but the image quality was terrible almost 100% of the time
Great video, great analysis! I was disappointed that Survivor didn't get a release for the last gen consoles back in the day. Now my Xbox One X will get a new game ;)
I know they won’t let you get the PS4 version if you bought the PS5 version. I wanted to play it on PS5 just to look at how the game ran. Since the PS5 version is $20 more expensive, they probably won’t upgrade you for free. Kind of weird though considering fallen order got a free PS5 upgrade, but it seems like that trend has ended. Hogwarts Legacy doesn’t give you the next gen or previous gen version either for free.
I just picked up a cheap PS4 Pro in mint condition and am blown away at how good some of these games look. And sound. I still have a mid level PC w/ GTX 1060 6GB, and was able to play most of the non-exclusive games back when these consoles were current...but I wasn't playing them on a massive living room display up-res'd to 4K with HDR.
it just stays at the same number for years, despite op constantly uploading quality videos. people just don't that interested in graphical/technical analysis stuff
Calling it now: A big reason why these previous-gen versions were made, was to enable a Jedi "Double Pack" for the Switch 2. Both Jedi games, £50-£60, taking advantage of the new console's inevitable DLSS features. Sounds like a winner to me.
It won't be that hard since they released it on last gen consoles. Switch 2 will be close to Xbox One and with a better CPU probably and some better upscale tech so the port they made for Xbox One can easily be worked to fit the Switch 2 with less texture popping issues and loading.
@@SIPEROTH true. But the sad thing is, when the ps6 and new Xbox come out, we're gonna have a horrible cross-gen period (worse than the current one) where every game will try to run on Series S and Switch 2.
@@--waffle- I think that depends on whether devs make the full switch to Ray Tracing and whether the hardware can handle that. There a reason why this took 18 months of extra dev time to bring this to the PS4. An the dev that made the game said Ray Tracing was a huge time saver. An there a lot of pressure to get game budgets under control, raytracing is one of the few options available for that.
Absolutely enjoyed this on PC but by god the technical issues in some cases are beyond repair and the Devs must have known this during development? The game is very good though in terms of gameplay, progression and how it keeps you interested throughout.
I still game on my 1X and still love it. With both internal and external SSD's this console still holds its own. The first game made me go out and buy my external SSD and the game ran great with none of the issues that digital foundry reported and the situation is the same with this game in 2024 but this time i run the game on the internal HDD which is a samsung EVO 1tb SSD, no crashed no issues. On the motherboard of the 1X is an outline for a NVMe SSD its almost like they where going to originally have it part of the hardware but maybe due to cost and already a $500.00 price tag just install a 5400 RPM HDD in any case the 1X is still in 2024 a great console that dont make you feel to left out with releases like this one.
I realy do love this "impossible ports" to lower end hardware. And the good thing is that this version comes full on 2 disc and plays at 60fps on PS5 and Series X. Also, i feel this is a test to port it to the Switch 2
1:54: "The temporal solution from UE4, TAAU" Jedi Survivor is built on UE 4.26, which was the first UE4 version that introduced TAAU's successor, TSR. Not as refined as TSR from UE 5.4, but definitely a step up from TAAU visually.
As a UE4 (4.27-plus branch) developer, I've never seen any mention of TSR in the engine code or console commands. Have I been missing something? Not trying to be rude, just genuinely curious.
@@duncanself5111 that's not bad. I've got game pass ultimate for my Xbox it comes with EA play. I'm hoping i can get Ubisoft+ so i can play Star wars outlaws
I think im in a weird space where i dont watch these types of content as buying decision makers rather for the technical look as thats whats most interesting for me. Played this on series x but id probably enjoy it just as much on my one s. Cool channel though ill check out your other videos too
@NXG when you see games like this running on much less capable hardware (minus RT GI and Reflections), do you think it indicates that some developers aren’t maximizing the current generation machines? Or is that an outdated way of looking at the two versions of the game?
No, i think is more like diminishing returns issues. As graphics gets better and better you need much more power for every little difference since graphics become greatly detailed with multi-million triangles etc and therefore to add even more detail to even the smallest thing it will consume a lot of power. That is why you can play with a PS4 and a PS5 and say "yeah it looked a little better but it doesn't look that different". Along with raising the fps and resolution the newer consoles just add some better shadow a little better lighting with ray tracing maybe, slightly more detailed textures but everything is just slightly a little better but nothing that can create a total different impression.
@@xtr.7662 True, I think the thing that is so surprising about the last gen versions (for me) is that they are using similar internal resolutions (then upscaled with FSR 2) to the performance mode of PS5/Series X (around 720p-900p). Meaning you get double the frame rate and not a lot else. Although I’m sure the geometry, textures, lighting/shadows are upgraded quite a bit. But yeah, RT is very intensive.
One X.. that is the only console of last gen that is worthy contender with a 4K'ish gaming catalog as long as your running it with an NVMe drive, which that One X also was mode for, as can be seen on is motherboard where there is clearly an outline for NVMe gen3 but in 2017 NVMe drives, expensive as.. One X is a strong console with a lot of fast ram.. its memory bandwidth for the whole system is 326Gbps. (also why you see Jedi S. at 1440p on that console) It jumped with almost 5x on the two main criteria vs the One S..Mem bw went from 68 to 326 and teraflops from 1.3 to 6.. IMO the biggest jump I can recall.. from One X to Series X its around 1.5x on mem bw for the system as a whole. - and a very nice thing about One X is that it will take 26TB SSDs (2TB int. + 3x 8TB ext) and it can read from all 4 drives at any given time. Its running on a sata3 controller, but with ext. NVMe drives to USB your still getting that faster access times for less pop in and way faster loading times.. reduced on modern titles with 80 to 85% vs org mechanical drive, and 4k games ain't locked down to proprietary MS drives.
Biggest issue with One X is that Microsoft are not releasing their own exclusive games anymore, for that console, even though it a very strong console. Its something that Phil Spencer is now critized a lot for by sh. holders, as our gamepass subscr. are clearly dropping out, when we ain't delivering gamepass content to the whole clientele that got the older gen. Just the last 12 months.. another -6% drop in marketshare to Sony... that is a lot in just 12 months from an already very low percentage. We don't make money by building consoles.. we do it from subscr. gamepass, and the more that have an incentive to be on it, the better.. why its a huge mistake, that Phil Spencer dropped exclusive game support for last gen,, tons of people with last gen dropping it..' Phil Spencer did it to save dev cost for support for last gen, and primarily he wanted to boost Series S & X console sale and a merit that nobody cares about, as it ain't console sales that matters.. its a losing expense.. what matters it getting as much consumers have an incentive to have gamepass, and the lack of exclusive support for last gen.. have really hurt our margins..
I’m pretty sure Jedi Survivor on PS4 and Xbox One runs better than Jedi Fallen Order did on those consoles from what I’ve heard. Only played both games on PC
I did love it, I was just playing on the title as I loved the original trio. Empire was the best though, I left the cinema with my Brother saying, Vader is lying, he has too be...... oh how wrong I was ;-)
@@NXGamer facts. I posted a few weeks ago how criminally understated this game is and overshadowed it was by it's initial launch state. From story, to acting, to gameplay. It's incredible
@@NXGamer But they lost the creative director who didn't want to waste 18 months of his life doing this port, how many of the less famous high profile team left for the same reason. Whether that was worth it, we shall see in the next game.
@@DavidKnowles0 Nothing new here sadly, business is bussines and EA are business first and foremost. Hopefully Stig and team create their own smaller studio and continue to make what they are passionate about.
A sad sign of the times. The old consoles are perfectly adequate for this game. The PS5/PRO image resolution circus is laughable. These simple run and gun games without physics and next gen interaction can be handled by the PS2 and you can demake this game on the Ratchet and Clank engine easily.
I was surprised a year and a half ago when PlayStation started selling PlayStation 4 slim as standard along side the PlayStation 5. Everyone else is surprised that they still support the console 😂😂😂
Bro you did a couple of mistakes, first of all you enabled Motion blur on the PS5 while it's not present in the older version and you forgot Xbox Series S
Nope, it is active on all, as I say it is just reduced on its sample and quality as it can be an expensive effect. You can see it in the cinematics and in the running/combat. Look at Cal's feet.
I do not believe it's fair to call SW Jedi Fallen Order a "cross platform game"... the game originally shipped for base PS4/Pro and Xbone/X and PC... all those game devs knew that PS5 and XbsX were BC and would enhance overall game performance and I forget but Fallen Order on PS5 did not really have Ray Tracing and if it did it wasn't as advanced as the sequel but what really happened is that due to probable slow sales from the perception of the publisher (where they probably wanted crazy 20 million or 40 million sales numbers) and the dev agreed to make a labeled PS5 version of Fallen Order because most of the surveys or data was showing that many people who managed to purchase PS5s since 2020 to 2021 did not actually own nor had purchased a PlayStation since PS1 and PS2... probably PS3 even and many still just never owned consoles to begin with especially cause it just seemed really weird to make a labeled PS5 version unless some interviews prove otherwise. With this PS4/Xone Jedi Survivor being made just really goes to show that lighting effects are still a fairly computationally heavy task but honestly the use of Unreal Engine in this game is what is holding it back like most UE games where iirc Jedi Fallen Order and Sony's Days Gone were probably the most heavily moddified by the game dev efforts to the point that Sony's devs should have just created their own 3d engine for all the work they did using UE and maybe they would have avoided the horrible performance endemic to "Unreal Engine" which is not a safe thing for reviewers and analysts to say because it makes the company look bad.
Such a good game. Even with all the flaws I had had great time playing them both. If story and game play is good sometimes you cans till enjoy a title.
2:55 This shouldn't surprise anyone. If its any indication to go by, I'd say it cements the proof that we never really required these so called overprized 'next gen boxes' sinces we've actually only being playing slightly polished versions from the ps4 era along. Nothing truly next gen in any real way.
Just say you know nothing abt hardware man there's non with that but instead yall defend these trash ass last gen consoles. Because the ps4 and xbx1 are relics they are litteraly the reason the 5 and x are being hold back? Bet yall even dony even remember that ue5 demo. Yeah I bet most games could look like that and run better now since it was a old ass unoptimized version. Also this is proof? Look at mfs 2024 to see what these consoles can actually
They have to cut off support at some point, they can’t keep supporting games with such an anemic CPU and only giving developers 5.5GB of RAM to use. PS5 is worth it for me just because of all the games with 60fps modes. I respect people who don’t have the money or inclination to upgrade, there really haven’t been enough releases from Sony, although there are some really good ones like Spider-Man 2, Astrobot, Stellar Blade. Consoles have always been a limited time thing that only gets developers attention for a fixed amount of time. After 11 years, y’all are lucky to get this game at all. The only thing I agree though is the people who bought Xbox One X/PS4 Pro, they kind of got screwed because those consoles only got about 4-5 years of serious support. That’s why I’m not buying the PS5 Pro.
Man, we called these consoles underpowered when they came out. The fact they still can keep up 4 years after it's lifecycle was suppose to end is beyond impressive. We've never seen obsolete consoles support the majority of main commerical games for this long. The PS2 was mostly only doing Sports games by this point.
Eh no, you BELIEVED "these consoles were underpowered when they came out" because often Digital Foundry and other so called videogame reviewers and framerate analysis people tend to come from and be PC platform ELITISTS.
Think about it, was there "true" multi CPU/thread via SPU/CU programming on PC before PS3 (even the Sega Saturn) and X360 launched halfway in the 2000s?
Then ask yourself just how many actual game developers were using the SEVEN CPU COREs (iirc both have eight core CPUs but one core is reserved for the O.S.) of base PS4 and Xbone? note also that both base PS4 and Xbone have GPUs with Compute Units which FURTHER add computational power which essentially is intended to remove the burden or free up the use of the seven CPU cores because those CUs can handle post processing and additional physics and particle effects and LIGHTING the latter being the most computational intensive process and that is assuming you have really competent game devs who actually program those effects in shipping retail videogames and that really just tells you that just like the old NES, the most advanced graphics and effects videogames ended up appearing towards either four to six years after the console launched (considering Nintendo FamiCom launched in Japan in 1983) which just further goes to prove and show that "consoles" specs are irrelevant because it really depends on game programmers/devs either trying or coasting.
PS5 and XbsX alone (not including PS5Pro) are already flexing their computational power with Ray Tracing global illumination effects but those effects depend on game devs improving, they cannot just pull the most advanced techniques when the console launched and that is the lesson.
Always a pleasure to see your tech breakdowns...
I remember back in 2014 gamers deemed PS4 & Xbox One to be too underpowered (mobile CPU etc.) and said they would be outdated quickly.
10 years later the latest AAA games are being ported to PS4 & Xbox One with stable performance & good visuals lmao. Devs are working miracles with those Jaguar cores.
But it is ridiculously underpowered lol why do you think games rarely ever ran at 60 fps even on the enhanced consoles? It's because the jaguar was a huge mistake. The cpu is garbage
The gpu is good, and the tools devs have are excellent by now. Plus this engine was made for ps4 so why would it not run good???
The CPU is heavily underpowered but it’s all they had to work with for the consoles. They understand how weak the CPU is but can work around it if they really need to
Yea I remember 2014. Cod Ghosts ran at 900p on PS4 and 720p on Xbox One. And then Battlefield 4 1080p and 720p respectively. I remember that being a big deal.
last gen running hogwarts legacy was a hint towards its long-lasting life
@@tfee97Battlefield 4 ran at 900p on PS4.
Glad to see youre still going strong NX!
Thanks for the video. Thanks for all the good tech analysis. Seems like too many others rely on speculation for their content.
Thanks, appreciate the comment and always try to cover everything as accurately as possible within the time constraints.
@@NXGamer Thanks for the reply.
All this game needed at release was a ray tracing on/off toggle. Could have avoided bad press because of lackluster performance on consoles back then.
...and a good story
@@AndrewTSq The story is really damn good with a big twist. Just platinumed the game some weeks ago, and I can confidently say, this is one of the best games this gen, and the best Star Wars game after KoTOR 2.
Agreed, I said in my IGN review, madness that the Performance mode just did not disable RT. Likely a marketing push at the time, but was a mistake.
@@ColdFear6666yea its a really great game but imo the image quality was the biggest problem not the performance. I played the whole game in res mode at launch and never had any issues except for a couple areas but the image quality was terrible almost 100% of the time
And a LOT of other tweaks....this game was garbage at launch, which was sad because it has a lot of great moments.
I've been waiting on a performance analysis on this game since it dropped. Thanks a bunch NX, your insights are helpful as always
Great video, great analysis! I was disappointed that Survivor didn't get a release for the last gen consoles back in the day. Now my Xbox One X will get a new game ;)
Wow, this is a really good video!
Bro really beat digital foundry to it 😂
As if that's a high bar to hurdle. They're a sad shadow what they were and could've been.
@@HueyTheDoctorgrow a brain buddy, u sound pathetic
And he doesn't sound like he's doing an advertisement for Microsoft.
@@HueyTheDoctorI think both DF and nx rules. Love all their videos.
@@HueyTheDoctor may I ask you: why do you say this? Genuinely curious! Is it because they’re sellouts?
Full version on disks, this is the way to go for me.
Hopefully free upgrade to ps5.
Great analysis, thanks.
I know they won’t let you get the PS4 version if you bought the PS5 version. I wanted to play it on PS5 just to look at how the game ran. Since the PS5 version is $20 more expensive, they probably won’t upgrade you for free. Kind of weird though considering fallen order got a free PS5 upgrade, but it seems like that trend has ended. Hogwarts Legacy doesn’t give you the next gen or previous gen version either for free.
@@jedimindtrickonyou3692 I’ll buy the ps4 when it’s dirt cheap, then play the ps5 version when it comes to plus 😂 I’ve held off this long.
Got the one x version installed last night. These ports are well worth it and its an amazing game so far will reccomend to anyone 🎉
@@breakops5339 thanks for that, it would have been great if they had an option to open the frame rate up, pretty sure current gen would lock to 60fps.
@@jedimindtrickonyou3692 you can go from PS4 to PS5 but not vice versa
I just picked up a cheap PS4 Pro in mint condition and am blown away at how good some of these games look. And sound. I still have a mid level PC w/ GTX 1060 6GB, and was able to play most of the non-exclusive games back when these consoles were current...but I wasn't playing them on a massive living room display up-res'd to 4K with HDR.
Haven't watched your videos for years (sorry 😅), but I'm shocked by your subs count. I think you should shake things out.
it just stays at the same number for years, despite op constantly uploading quality videos. people just don't that interested in graphical/technical analysis stuff
Calling it now: A big reason why these previous-gen versions were made, was to enable a Jedi "Double Pack" for the Switch 2.
Both Jedi games, £50-£60, taking advantage of the new console's inevitable DLSS features. Sounds like a winner to me.
I hope you’re right
Feels like we're gonna have a switch 2 port of this when the console comes out lol
It won't be that hard since they released it on last gen consoles. Switch 2 will be close to Xbox One and with a better CPU probably and some better upscale tech so the port they made for Xbox One can easily be worked to fit the Switch 2 with less texture popping issues and loading.
@@SIPEROTH true. But the sad thing is, when the ps6 and new Xbox come out, we're gonna have a horrible cross-gen period (worse than the current one) where every game will try to run on Series S and Switch 2.
@@--waffle- I think that depends on whether devs make the full switch to Ray Tracing and whether the hardware can handle that. There a reason why this took 18 months of extra dev time to bring this to the PS4. An the dev that made the game said Ray Tracing was a huge time saver.
An there a lot of pressure to get game budgets under control, raytracing is one of the few options available for that.
No magic, the game has pretty much the same graphics as the last game, it was never an impossible port.
It doesnt theres a lot more detail
There’s a ton more detail in Jedi Survivor than Fallen Order
fallen order was 4K was 4K on One X.. and Jedi Sare down at 1440p so clearly way more demanding game.
Absolutely enjoyed this on PC but by god the technical issues in some cases are beyond repair and the Devs must have known this during development? The game is very good though in terms of gameplay, progression and how it keeps you interested throughout.
I still game on my 1X and still love it. With both internal and external SSD's this console still holds its own. The first game made me go out and buy my external SSD and the game ran great with none of the issues that digital foundry reported and the situation is the same with this game in 2024 but this time i run the game on the internal HDD which is a samsung EVO 1tb SSD, no crashed no issues.
On the motherboard of the 1X is an outline for a NVMe SSD its almost like they where going to originally have it part of the hardware but maybe due to cost and already a $500.00 price tag just install a 5400 RPM HDD in any case the 1X is still in 2024 a great console that dont make you feel to left out with releases like this one.
I realy do love this "impossible ports" to lower end hardware. And the good thing is that this version comes full on 2 disc and plays at 60fps on PS5 and Series X. Also, i feel this is a test to port it to the Switch 2
for a 2013 console is impresive
they just cutdown some vegetation and drawn distance
1:54: "The temporal solution from UE4, TAAU"
Jedi Survivor is built on UE 4.26, which was the first UE4 version that introduced TAAU's successor, TSR. Not as refined as TSR from UE 5.4, but definitely a step up from TAAU visually.
As a UE4 (4.27-plus branch) developer, I've never seen any mention of TSR in the engine code or console commands. Have I been missing something? Not trying to be rude, just genuinely curious.
@@piotrmazek540 Yes, you have missed something. Look up "Unreal Engine 4.26 released" article, it's mentioned there also.
I'm currently playing this on PS5. I got EA play for a month for 99p
How?
@darkwinduck3009 EA Play membership was on offer last month for 99p
@@duncanself5111 that's not bad. I've got game pass ultimate for my Xbox it comes with EA play.
I'm hoping i can get Ubisoft+ so i can play Star wars outlaws
I think im in a weird space where i dont watch these types of content as buying decision makers rather for the technical look as thats whats most interesting for me. Played this on series x but id probably enjoy it just as much on my one s.
Cool channel though ill check out your other videos too
@NXG when you see games like this running on much less capable hardware (minus RT GI and Reflections), do you think it indicates that some developers aren’t maximizing the current generation machines? Or is that an outdated way of looking at the two versions of the game?
No, i think is more like diminishing returns issues. As graphics gets better and better you need much more power for every little difference since graphics become greatly detailed with multi-million triangles etc and therefore to add even more detail to even the smallest thing it will consume a lot of power.
That is why you can play with a PS4 and a PS5 and say "yeah it looked a little better but it doesn't look that different".
Along with raising the fps and resolution the newer consoles just add some better shadow a little better lighting with ray tracing maybe, slightly more detailed textures but everything is just slightly a little better but nothing that can create a total different impression.
Ray tracing is very intensive
@@xtr.7662 True, I think the thing that is so surprising about the last gen versions (for me) is that they are using similar internal resolutions (then upscaled with FSR 2) to the performance mode of PS5/Series X (around 720p-900p). Meaning you get double the frame rate and not a lot else. Although I’m sure the geometry, textures, lighting/shadows are upgraded quite a bit. But yeah, RT is very intensive.
One X.. that is the only console of last gen that is worthy contender with a 4K'ish gaming catalog as long as your running it with an NVMe drive, which that One X also was mode for, as can be seen on is motherboard where there is clearly an outline for NVMe gen3 but in 2017 NVMe drives, expensive as..
One X is a strong console with a lot of fast ram.. its memory bandwidth for the whole system is 326Gbps. (also why you see Jedi S. at 1440p on that console)
It jumped with almost 5x on the two main criteria vs the One S..Mem bw went from 68 to 326 and teraflops from 1.3 to 6.. IMO the biggest jump I can recall.. from One X to Series X its around 1.5x on mem bw for the system as a whole.
- and a very nice thing about One X is that it will take 26TB SSDs (2TB int. + 3x 8TB ext) and it can read from all 4 drives at any given time.
Its running on a sata3 controller, but with ext. NVMe drives to USB your still getting that faster access times for less pop in and way faster loading times.. reduced on modern titles with 80 to 85% vs org mechanical drive, and 4k games ain't locked down to proprietary MS drives.
Biggest issue with One X is that Microsoft are not releasing their own exclusive games anymore, for that console, even though it a very strong console.
Its something that Phil Spencer is now critized a lot for by sh. holders, as our gamepass subscr. are clearly dropping out, when we ain't delivering gamepass content to the whole clientele that got the older gen.
Just the last 12 months.. another -6% drop in marketshare to Sony... that is a lot in just 12 months from an already very low percentage.
We don't make money by building consoles.. we do it from subscr. gamepass, and the more that have an incentive to be on it, the better.. why its a huge mistake, that Phil Spencer dropped exclusive game support for last gen,, tons of people with last gen dropping it..'
Phil Spencer did it to save dev cost for support for last gen, and primarily he wanted to boost Series S & X console sale and a merit that nobody cares about, as it ain't console sales that matters.. its a losing expense.. what matters it getting as much consumers have an incentive to have gamepass, and the lack of exclusive support for last gen.. have really hurt our margins..
*The frames are with you, young PlayStation, but you are not a 60fps title yet.*
I’m pretty sure Jedi Survivor on PS4 and Xbox One runs better than Jedi Fallen Order did on those consoles from what I’ve heard. Only played both games on PC
Keep it up!
"Can Respawn deliver the Return of the Jedi we hoped for?". Taking a dig at the threequel. I'm sure you loved it as a kid 😉.
I did love it, I was just playing on the title as I loved the original trio. Empire was the best though, I left the cinema with my Brother saying, Vader is lying, he has too be...... oh how wrong I was ;-)
Excelente analisis 😄
Can't quite get my head around this port lol
Return on that investment, the game was last gen at heart and still one of the best of 2023 my man.
@@NXGamer facts. I posted a few weeks ago how criminally understated this game is and overshadowed it was by it's initial launch state. From story, to acting, to gameplay. It's incredible
@@NXGamer But they lost the creative director who didn't want to waste 18 months of his life doing this port, how many of the less famous high profile team left for the same reason. Whether that was worth it, we shall see in the next game.
@@DavidKnowles0 Nothing new here sadly, business is bussines and EA are business first and foremost. Hopefully Stig and team create their own smaller studio and continue to make what they are passionate about.
Tbh i was confused by this title. Didnt think for one second this game would run on ps4 let alone xbone lol
Also thiught it was current gen only lol
much much better than digital foundry
Please next time have all versions with the same settings, PS5 version had motion blur enabled.
A sad sign of the times. The old consoles are perfectly adequate for this game. The PS5/PRO image resolution circus is laughable. These simple run and gun games without physics and next gen interaction can be handled by the PS2 and you can demake this game on the Ratchet and Clank engine easily.
I haven't gamed on a ps4/last gen in years but I remember the games looking a lot better than this?
I wonder if the series s got performance improvements from thos patch?
if you install the game (ps4) from a disc with out an interent connection do you install the entire game or like PS5 just a demo?
I was surprised a year and a half ago when PlayStation started selling PlayStation 4 slim as standard along side the PlayStation 5.
Everyone else is surprised that they still support the console 😂😂😂
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Bro you did a couple of mistakes, first of all you enabled Motion blur on the PS5 while it's not present in the older version and you forgot Xbox Series S
Nope, it is active on all, as I say it is just reduced on its sample and quality as it can be an expensive effect. You can see it in the cinematics and in the running/combat. Look at Cal's feet.
I do not believe it's fair to call SW Jedi Fallen Order a "cross platform game"... the game originally shipped for base PS4/Pro and Xbone/X and PC... all those game devs knew that PS5 and XbsX were BC and would enhance overall game performance and I forget but Fallen Order on PS5 did not really have Ray Tracing and if it did it wasn't as advanced as the sequel but what really happened is that due to probable slow sales from the perception of the publisher (where they probably wanted crazy 20 million or 40 million sales numbers) and the dev agreed to make a labeled PS5 version of Fallen Order because most of the surveys or data was showing that many people who managed to purchase PS5s since 2020 to 2021 did not actually own nor had purchased a PlayStation since PS1 and PS2... probably PS3 even and many still just never owned consoles to begin with especially cause it just seemed really weird to make a labeled PS5 version unless some interviews prove otherwise.
With this PS4/Xone Jedi Survivor being made just really goes to show that lighting effects are still a fairly computationally heavy task but honestly the use of Unreal Engine in this game is what is holding it back like most UE games where iirc Jedi Fallen Order and Sony's Days Gone were probably the most heavily moddified by the game dev efforts to the point that Sony's devs should have just created their own 3d engine for all the work they did using UE and maybe they would have avoided the horrible performance endemic to "Unreal Engine" which is not a safe thing for reviewers and analysts to say because it makes the company look bad.
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I only wish you were inundated with new releases, alas the industry is dying a slow death
So now every generation can suffer with this trash Star Wars game, I can't wait for the switch port.
This game is great
Such a good game. Even with all the flaws I had had great time playing them both. If story and game play is good sometimes you cans till enjoy a title.
2:55 This shouldn't surprise anyone. If its any indication to go by, I'd say it cements the proof that we never really required these so called overprized 'next gen boxes' sinces we've actually only being playing slightly polished versions from the ps4 era along. Nothing truly next gen in any real way.
Just say you know nothing abt hardware man there's non with that but instead yall defend these trash ass last gen consoles. Because the ps4 and xbx1 are relics they are litteraly the reason the 5 and x are being hold back? Bet yall even dony even remember that ue5 demo. Yeah I bet most games could look like that and run better now since it was a old ass unoptimized version. Also this is proof? Look at mfs 2024 to see what these consoles can actually
They have to cut off support at some point, they can’t keep supporting games with such an anemic CPU and only giving developers 5.5GB of RAM to use. PS5 is worth it for me just because of all the games with 60fps modes. I respect people who don’t have the money or inclination to upgrade, there really haven’t been enough releases from Sony, although there are some really good ones like Spider-Man 2, Astrobot, Stellar Blade. Consoles have always been a limited time thing that only gets developers attention for a fixed amount of time. After 11 years, y’all are lucky to get this game at all.
The only thing I agree though is the people who bought Xbox One X/PS4 Pro, they kind of got screwed because those consoles only got about 4-5 years of serious support. That’s why I’m not buying the PS5 Pro.
can you test ps4 disc on ps5?