My ghost is with me every morning when I sit up.Worst part is the ghost was the 34 year old me, then the timeline changed. And he died, now it’s 20+ years later. May God Bless you, He will be there, but it’s a good thing he was a separate part of you and not you.
I am so happy this comment section had the same reaction I did. This is so cruel and inhuman.If you want to understand grief, talk to people. Connect with people and really listen. We all go through it and on some level understand how painful it is. You don't need to torture animals to prove a point.
i came across your touching comment in the death of love ones post here on you tube. Well am really sorry about that okay 😒☹️and I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday........
I am that person that wakes up every single day feeling like I just found out. It’s been 3.5 years. At this point I’m dead inside, avoiding everything, and faking it when I have to deal with people. Everything I do takes 4x the effort it used to.
I lost my husband, my beautiful German Shepherd, my home. I was pushed into a retirement home by my childre who then left me to 'move on' alone. I will never forgive them, and have lost faith in human kind.
That I can emphasise....I am in a similar boat. It is so hard when everybody else has moved on and you are left in the same spot, nothing seems to have moved an inch and the "hollow" feeling just will not go away. Pain that cannot be explained. I lost my son , I lost myself
@@michellepenney8218I’m so very sorry. 💔 Grief is excruciating. I lost my only child when he was 18 years old. It’s been almost 7 years ago and I miss him beyond belief. I wish I could come and visit you regularly. Hold your hand and comfort you. Share our grief together. 😢
I didn’t think i would ever write a comment like this but: if you make other living beings going through the pain of the lost to understand what grief is, emotionally you are not capable enough to understand what grief is.
Please read John 11:11-14, then read John 5:28,29. This will happen in due time but first this: Psalm 37:9-11,29; Revelation 21:4,5; Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 55:11. Would you like to know more?
Shame on her! I could never make anyone go through what I'm going through right now. If you want to study grief then talk to people. Don't break hearts.
My daughter died august 2 2022 and I wake up every morning feeling like it’s the first day all over again. I can’t imagine trying to learn to exist without her. It seems impossible 😭
I lost my loving dad and uncle in 2018 and I have not been able to move on. I yearn to meet them. Internet is the only place where I can describe my feelings with complete honesty. Not a single day passes when I don't cry but I don't feel bad about this crying. I yearn to see them, to hear them and to feel their touch. Why is life so hard?
My darling son Alex died suddenly 2 months ago,2 hours before his birthday....life stopped and then just changed....you don't move on you just try to keep going...and you choose a beautiful elite of people to surround you
I stopped watching this half way. These types of experiments should be stopped immediately. It's cruel. You have no right to torture animals like this. Remember that you are actually giving yourself what you think you are giving others. Once you understand this you will stop inflicting pain to another.
This is just friggin sad. I can't believe having lost a cat you would do studies like this. Why not ASK grieving humans who are WILLING to participate in a study and do MRIs or CTs or whatever on their grieving brains? As a grief and loss counsellor for pet owners I'm just completely gutted by this study. I was hoping to see something on the HUMAN brain, like I said by ASKING humans who would be more than happy to find out more about their own grief. Gosh, it's going to take me ages to get over what you do to animals now. :(
As someone with a missing cat of 2.5 weeks, thank you for your comment. I won’t be watching this as it will definitely trigger me and I’m already struggling. I will check out your channel and subscribe. I wish I had a pet loss and grief counsellor.
@BeeYC ... I am curious as to some UA-cam channels to watch, because I've lost a beloved pet last month (Sept of 2021). And, I'm having trouble moving forward. I loved her so, so much. Yes, she was older and been with me a good while. But it was unexpected but not tragic. Good health one day, then week later -- she is no longer with us. If you can help, please, give me some ideas. I'll look at your channel to see what videos you have on the topic since you are a GaLC for pet owners. Thank you.
Aside from the cruelty of the experiment, it is also flawed. She wanted to see how the animal would behave once the partner is permanently gone (like death) but changed nothing in the experiment. How is the animal supposed to know their partner is gone permanently? Not letting them see their partner after triggering the lever only incites more suffering on the animal in her experiment. Horrible experiment.
But imagine putting those innocent animals through that unsettling and crushing feeling of losing their beloved ones just for the sake of this experiment. Cruel....
If you recognize suffering, why would you inflict it on other sentient beings? To me, this is unthinkable. What did you teach the world about grief? Absolutely nothing!! For Christ's sake go and read the great novels if don't understand the human heart. Leave these poor, suffering creatures in peace.
Understanding the pain won't help the people who are stuck grieving. She is conducting this experiment to help them by medication and hence they can continue with thier life.
Most people know what grief is. If you’ve gone through grief, you know is real, it hurts, your body and brain are sad. Even if you haven’t gone through it, it isn’t hard to understand it. WHY ON EARTH DO YOU NEED AN EXPERIMENT TO KNOW THIS? Nothing but cruelty, cruelty makes me grieve all those suffering animal victims. “Scientists?” NO! You’re heartless.
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
Thank you to all the people who wrote objections to these heartless “scientific” cruelties. I am with you all the way. I am perplexed at how casually this is presented when it comes to research. In our world today animal abuse is not condoned. But scientists freely describe the horrific things they are doing without entertaining the notion that this is objectionable to a great many people. As long as humans derive some sort of benefit it’s ok, no matter how violent it is to another innocent being?
Since the passing of my husband of 50 years, I’ve left listen to many many people talking about how we should react when we grieve. I have come to the realization, that they are telling me something that I already know. The pain, the hard ache, nothing to look forward to, although we do have Family who love us. That doesn’t take the pain away. Time may heal Us somehow, but nothing can take away the emptiness in our hearts. I’ve decided I’m not listening to people trying to persuade me that I should feel otherwise.
You have taken the words out of my mouth at last someone like me I've lost a daughter seven yrs ago 42yrs old and son yr half after 32yrs old I don't expect people to feel sorry for me it's my cross to bear but nothing on this earth can or ever wil ever make me feel better
My heart goes out to you for the loss of your son and your daughter. May God bless you and give you the strength to carry-on. That’s all I ask of God every day, and I know I will be with my husband someday. That’s what keeps me going.God bless you
@@darlenewedra2896 very sorry about the death of your hubby, God will give you the fortitude to bear the loss. It was a difficult time to bear when I lost my wife to cancer in 2019 so I know how you must be feeling!
@@lawsonbrinton682 Thank you for taking the time to read my story. I too am very sorry for your loss. I know I have feelings that I need to deal with by myself, but it’s good to know how other people who are going through the same thing, also feel.God bless you.
The study didn't really prove much about grief, other than that animals do indeed have valid bonds with each other - which is something we already knew. The study is animal cruelty, and I don't think it went into enough detail to even be called a study. To me it seems more like a curious and cruel experiment. Grief is "simply frustration" is also kind of an offensive thing to say to people who have experienced a huge loss. To boil it down to just frustration when it's a complex lifelong experience...?
Carol much love to you but there will be no my way or the highway man-made religion for me... Sorry but I am spiritual no old man sitting in a cloud waiting for me to mess up so he can ban me for eternity just don't believe it
I had to stop watching this. My heart is breaking to think "scientists" break hearts of animals to study grief. As if we need to cause any more suffering. As if we can't study this in humans who are undergoing heartbreak.....
There are only a relatively small number of people on this earth who have the kind of expertise (that you worked hard to acquire btw thank you) to even begin to tackle this type of issue. Not only is this work fascinating, it is such a great contribution. First because of the level of suffering and its universality, and second because, even though it is so painful, it is significantly different than depression. These findings will not only help those suffering from grief, but also help in research of other mental health disorders by providing something to contrast. Thank you for all your work and thank you for sharing it on Tedx.
Hopefully the following Scriptures will ease your pain. John11:11-14; John 5:28,29. But this must take place first : Psalm 37:9-11,29; Daniel 2:44; Revelation 21:4,5 ; Isaiah 55:11.
Mine died 2 yrs. Ago of a massive heart attack after 58 yrs. of marriage. He was on life support for 3 days, and we never had a chance to say goodbye. Im lost, and I feel he didn't take a piece of my heart, but all of it. Sorry for your loss, and like you, I'm numb and I still cant function.
@@DONNACEDOHIOK12 such is life we've all lost our loved ones in death, but life goes on, I lost my partner 3yrs ago, I understand how you feel, I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind, it'd be nice if you just say hi here is my number +1206-237-2054 😇
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
So much anger toward someone that is trying to learn how to help people with grieving. I lost my husband of 46 years and I am learning to “adapt” to grief by filling in the gaps of our love, routine and memories. I have a bit of him in each one of our children and feel grateful he is no longer suffering . Life goes on and time goes fast, take care of the living, including yourself. 🙏
Dr Zoe Donaldson I advise you to put yourself through this ''experiment'' so that us around you can watch and learn from your pain. I came to this video trying to find comfort and my blood is boiling. You are a horrible, heartless person. If you want to learn about grief there are plenty of ways out there. If you ever loved a cat, if you ever truly grieved you would never have had the heart to do this. You learned NOTHING because you never loved. Therefor I have nothing to learn from you.
such is life we've all lost our loved ones in death, but life goes on, I lost my partner 3yrs ago, I understand how you feel, I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind, it'd be nice if you just say hi here is my number +1206-237-2054 😇
I agree Hannah,this was no help to me at all,every day im stil suffering even though its been a year ago,Everyday day i think of you and every day i cry,another day has come and gone as life just passes by
I really agree with the rest...this ridiculous experiment didn't show any new information. It's just watching those poor creatures suffer like we do, but at least they didn't have to do it, until we bestow such thing upon them...So what, you understood that in time creatures just give up on hope, ever seeing their loved ones again!!!?? Isn't that what all of us do....I believe we could've come to that conclusion without excessive cruelty. If you really grieving you'd never try experimenting with grief on others...There are other ways of understanding ourselves, leave the fauna out of it!Haven't we done enough to poor the animal kingdom already...
I learned through reading comments that this lady did experiments of putting animals through grief, so yeah no. I'm not gonna support this by continuing to watch.
Absence of "something"? I lost my little boy to cancer! That "something" was my dear child. Iam a scientist but this is not the way of explaining and helping someone in grief. This woman lost a freaking CAT to cancer. She has no emphaty or emotional intelligence.
I hope you are a scientist who believes in a Creator. If you do, here are words of comfort for you. John11:11-14, John 5:28,29. This must take place first:Psalm37:9-11,29; Revelation 21:4,5; Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 55:11.
Spot on my learned friend I've lost my daughter and son nothing in this vile world can and will ever make me feel any better the life I knew has gone it's been going on for seven yrs I've lost my sense of smell taste and hearing in left ear I'm finished
We dont "move on". And no we dont conflate grief and depression either; there are totally different things. She obviously didnt learn much during her research.
What a horrible creepy experiment. My husband died a week ago. I turned this on thinking it might be helpful, give me some insight. Now I just feel worse than ever. Please don't do stuff like this to animals in the name of people like me.
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
Efforts of pressing the lever is quantitative. But deducing the pushing of the lever as comparable to mourning is an absolutely subjective and qualitative leap. The rodents likely Express it differently in natural environments. Also the first experiment with the vole seeing its partner is likely panic induced. Comparing that likely habit-forming experience to when the vole partner is absent reveals more about the ignorance about grief and probably voles that anything 'creative' and 'scientific'. Just because it is measurable doesn't make it useful. Pretty pointless study. There are ethical ways to study grieving people. Talk to them. Finally, conversations about grief from the perspective of time can surely be studied. There are entire cannons on the subject of perceived time and its science. Ugh
Animal cruelty. It should not be acceptable; for this experiment or for pharmaceutical products; that for the most part are a disaster. There must be other ways to study life and health; and not these sociopathic practices
I grieve for all of my loved ones. I've cared for, watched them all die in front of me. I had to stop watching once you started talking about how you are treating the animals in your lab. So you purposely put these animals in an extreme, sad, state, just to study grief. This is wrong. How could you, knowing what loss feels like, inflict that pain, that emptiness, onto another? I'm so incredibly sad for these animals. I pray they know peace before their life's are over!!
I came here thinking I’d get some relief & help through a ted talk after loosing my dog.. instead it tweaked my pain even further knowing some animals are separated cause humans want to “study” how this affects us? What in the world.. where are we going ? This is why I trust animals cause simply humans don’t have the capacity to understand that animals can bond & feel even more than we do. Please stop further studies of animals & ask humans how they’d feel being put through such torture. This is the wrong kind of science, sorry I would not applaud at the end instead walk away from this talk. 🐾💫🕊
This Ted talk did nothing for me. It served no point. I've been grieving for 22 years now. It didn't stop or slowed down. I cry almost every night ever since I can remember. And this did not help me whatsoever. Torturing those animals served no reason. And even if it did, if you truly knew what grief feels like, you wouldn't inflict this pain in them. Shame on you.
“Grieve thou not over the troubles and hardships of this nether world, nor be thou glad in times of ease and comfort, for both shall pass away. This present life is even as a swelling wave, or a mirage, or drifting shadows. Could ever a distorted image on the desert serve as refreshing waters? No, by the Lord of Lords! Never can reality and the mere semblance of reality be one, and wide is the difference between fancy and fact, between truth and the phantom thereof. Know thou that the Kingdom is the real world, and this nether place is only its shadow stretching out. A shadow hath no life of its own; its existence is only a fantasy, and nothing more; it is but images reflected in water, and seeming as pictures to the eye.” - Abdu’l-Baha
The "normal " giving process ?! There is nothing normal about it. It's not some linear thing with steps that you go through. It is unique to everyone. This Ted talk is not appropriate. She doesn't understand.
Hold on, do they drill directly into the animal’s head and put the microscope in them? I assume they don’t anesthetize them for it because it would be brutal, but daaaaamn.
What a revolting video! This scientist rivals some doctors with her detached emotions and scientific “objectivity” towards the suffering of animals, and by extension, humans, like those of us trying to make our way through grief, hence clicking on this video. I couldn't make it all the way through. The only interesting tidbit is at 2 minutes when she talks about time, the brain, and memories. Just stop after that!
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
This is AWFUL!! I thought I was going to learn something. All it reinforced was how cruel and removed from humaness science really is. I HATE this TED talk.
I totally disagree with this person is reductionism. And I take grade exception to her experimentation because I feel it’s cruelty. I had to stop watching this. shame.
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
My husband is in Heaven. I don't believe in "moving on" I believe in moving fwd. He's with me every step of the way
Have you ever read John 11:11-14? Then read 11:43,44. Very soon this will take place, Psalm 37:9-11,29, then the resurrection.
My ghost is with me every morning when I sit up.Worst part is the ghost was the 34 year old me, then the timeline changed. And he died, now it’s 20+ years later. May God Bless you, He will be there, but it’s a good thing he was a separate part of you and not you.
That is how I feel too.
I too lost my husband 4 years and a half ago. I feel like he's with me as well.
pro trick : watch movies at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
I am so happy this comment section had the same reaction I did. This is so cruel and inhuman.If you want to understand grief, talk to people. Connect with people and really listen. We all go through it and on some level understand how painful it is. You don't need to torture animals to prove a point.
i came across your touching comment in the death of love ones post here on you tube. Well am really sorry about that okay 😒☹️and I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday........
They aren’t killing they. Relax
I am that person that wakes up every single day feeling like I just found out. It’s been 3.5 years. At this point I’m dead inside, avoiding everything, and faking it when I have to deal with people. Everything I do takes 4x the effort it used to.
I hope you are feeling better, I'm grieving the loss of my elderly Mom, I miss her so much
I lost my husband, my beautiful German Shepherd, my home. I was pushed into a retirement home by my childre who then left me to 'move on' alone. I will never forgive them, and have lost faith in human kind.
That I can emphasise....I am in a similar boat. It is so hard when everybody else has moved on and you are left in the same spot, nothing seems to have moved an inch and the "hollow" feeling just will not go away. Pain that cannot be explained. I lost my son , I lost myself
@@jthecatholic8419 😭
@@michellepenney8218I’m so very sorry. 💔 Grief is excruciating. I lost my only child when he was 18 years old. It’s been almost 7 years ago and I miss him beyond belief. I wish I could come and visit you regularly. Hold your hand and comfort you. Share our grief together. 😢
I didn’t think i would ever write a comment like this but: if you make other living beings going through the pain of the lost to understand what grief is, emotionally you are not capable enough to understand what grief is.
Please read John 11:11-14, then read John 5:28,29. This will happen in due time but first this: Psalm 37:9-11,29; Revelation 21:4,5; Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 55:11. Would you like to know more?
Shame on her! I could never make anyone go through what I'm going through right now. If you want to study grief then talk to people. Don't break hearts.
Not only that pain. Also the physical torture they have to go through.
Exactly my thought too :-/
Watching this 1 week after loosing my brother, and today is one of my lowest moments, kindly remember me in prayer
My daughter died august 2 2022 and I wake up every morning feeling like it’s the first day all over again. I can’t imagine trying to learn to exist without her. It seems impossible 😭
im so sorry for your loss
I lost my loving dad and uncle in 2018 and I have not been able to move on. I yearn to meet them. Internet is the only place where I can describe my feelings with complete honesty. Not a single day passes when I don't cry but I don't feel bad about this crying. I yearn to see them, to hear them and to feel their touch. Why is life so hard?
What about your mom?
Stay strong
My darling son Alex died suddenly 2 months ago,2 hours before his birthday....life stopped and then just changed....you don't move on you just try to keep going...and you choose a beautiful elite of people to surround you
Please tell me this dr didn’t put innocent animals through traumatic loss just so she could study their brain wavelengths. My God, humanity is cruel.
Hopefully she reunited them after the study.
That’s what I was thinking it’s so wrong
I stopped watching this half way. These types of experiments should be stopped immediately. It's cruel. You have no right to torture animals like this. Remember that you are actually giving yourself what you think you are giving others. Once you understand this you will stop inflicting pain to another.
This is just friggin sad. I can't believe having lost a cat you would do studies like this. Why not ASK grieving humans who are WILLING to participate in a study and do MRIs or CTs or whatever on their grieving brains? As a grief and loss counsellor for pet owners I'm just completely gutted by this study. I was hoping to see something on the HUMAN brain, like I said by ASKING humans who would be more than happy to find out more about their own grief. Gosh, it's going to take me ages to get over what you do to animals now. :(
As someone with a missing cat of 2.5 weeks, thank you for your comment. I won’t be watching this as it will definitely trigger me and I’m already struggling. I will check out your channel and subscribe. I wish I had a pet loss and grief counsellor.
@BeeYC ... I am curious as to some UA-cam channels to watch, because I've lost a beloved pet last month (Sept of 2021). And, I'm having trouble moving forward. I loved her so, so much. Yes, she was older and been with me a good while. But it was unexpected but not tragic. Good health one day, then week later -- she is no longer with us. If you can help, please, give me some ideas. I'll look at your channel to see what videos you have on the topic since you are a GaLC for pet owners. Thank you.
Aside from the cruelty of the experiment, it is also flawed. She wanted to see how the animal would behave once the partner is permanently gone (like death) but changed nothing in the experiment. How is the animal supposed to know their partner is gone permanently? Not letting them see their partner after triggering the lever only incites more suffering on the animal in her experiment. Horrible experiment.
But imagine putting those innocent animals through that unsettling and crushing feeling of losing their beloved ones just for the sake of this experiment. Cruel....
If you recognize suffering, why would you inflict it on other sentient beings? To me, this is unthinkable. What did you teach the world about grief? Absolutely nothing!! For Christ's sake go and read the great novels if don't understand the human heart. Leave these poor, suffering creatures in peace.
Understanding the pain won't help the people who are stuck grieving. She is conducting this experiment to help them by medication and hence they can continue with thier life.
I came here because I lost my Mother less than a week ago and BAM - get hit with animal testing. NO THANKS.
AWFUL. Why do these cruel tests with animals? Why? For our own selfish benefit? It is immensely, immensely cruel.
I'm so glad I read through the comments before watching this video.
Most people know what grief is. If you’ve gone through grief, you know is real, it hurts, your body and brain are sad. Even if you haven’t gone through it, it isn’t hard to understand it. WHY ON EARTH DO YOU NEED AN EXPERIMENT TO KNOW THIS? Nothing but cruelty, cruelty makes me grieve all those suffering animal victims. “Scientists?” NO! You’re heartless.
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
Thank you to all the people who wrote objections to these heartless “scientific” cruelties. I am with you all the way. I am perplexed at how casually this is presented when it comes to research. In our world today animal abuse is not condoned. But scientists freely describe the horrific things they are doing without entertaining the notion that this is objectionable to a great many people. As long as humans derive some sort of benefit it’s ok, no matter how violent it is to another innocent being?
Since the passing of my husband of 50 years, I’ve left listen to many many people talking about how we should react when we grieve. I have come to the realization, that they are telling me something that I already know. The pain, the hard ache, nothing to look forward to, although we do have Family who love us. That doesn’t take the pain away. Time may heal Us somehow, but nothing can take away the emptiness in our hearts. I’ve decided I’m not listening to people trying to persuade me that I should feel otherwise.
You have taken the words out of my mouth at last someone like me I've lost a daughter seven yrs ago 42yrs old and son yr half after 32yrs old I don't expect people to feel sorry for me it's my cross to bear but nothing on this earth can or ever wil ever make me feel better
My heart goes out to you for the loss of your son and your daughter. May God bless you and give you the strength to carry-on. That’s all I ask of God every day, and I know I will be with my husband someday. That’s what keeps me going.God bless you
@@brendadrumm9708 very sorry about your loss Brenda, it's very hard to live with.
@@darlenewedra2896 very sorry about the death of your hubby, God will give you the fortitude to bear the loss. It was a difficult time to bear when I lost my wife to cancer in 2019 so I know how you must be feeling!
@@lawsonbrinton682 Thank you for taking the time to read my story. I too am very sorry for your loss. I know I have feelings that I need to deal with by myself, but it’s good to know how other people who are going through the same thing, also feel.God bless you.
Why did you do such thing? Can't believe this.. I don't need an information or study about something that should hurt animals in the first place :'(
The study didn't really prove much about grief, other than that animals do indeed have valid bonds with each other - which is something we already knew.
The study is animal cruelty, and I don't think it went into enough detail to even be called a study. To me it seems more like a curious and cruel experiment.
Grief is "simply frustration" is also kind of an offensive thing to say to people who have experienced a huge loss. To boil it down to just frustration when it's a complex lifelong experience...?
Will They feel like that when it happens to them? I don't think so.
No spirituality at all no hope a reuniting in the spiritual world... I watch these videos to help me this one did nothing but hurt me absolutely sucks
Ron, there is hope. Please read John 11:11-14, then read John 5:28,29.
Carol much love to you but there will be no my way or the highway man-made religion for me... Sorry but I am spiritual no old man sitting in a cloud waiting for me to mess up so he can ban me for eternity just don't believe it
I had to stop watching this. My heart is breaking to think "scientists" break hearts of animals to study grief. As if we need to cause any more suffering. As if we can't study this in humans who are undergoing heartbreak.....
Word.
Me too !
There are only a relatively small number of people on this earth who have the kind of expertise (that you worked hard to acquire btw thank you) to even begin to tackle this type of issue. Not only is this work fascinating, it is such a great contribution. First because of the level of suffering and its universality, and second because, even though it is so painful, it is significantly different than depression. These findings will not only help those suffering from grief, but also help in research of other mental health disorders by providing something to contrast. Thank you for all your work and thank you for sharing it on Tedx.
i lost my soulmate of 20 years to cardiac arrest weeks ago im lost,numb,frustrated 💔
Hopefully the following Scriptures will ease your pain. John11:11-14; John 5:28,29. But this must take place first : Psalm 37:9-11,29; Daniel 2:44; Revelation 21:4,5 ; Isaiah 55:11.
Mine died 2 yrs. Ago of a massive heart attack after 58 yrs. of marriage. He was on life support for 3 days, and we never had a chance to say goodbye. Im lost, and I feel he didn't take a piece of my heart, but all of it. Sorry for your loss, and like you, I'm numb and I still cant function.
Grieving the loss of my wife and 2 years later it isnt any better
I’m sorry, I think your “study” is especially cruel.
Gwendolyn. Thank you for your compassion
You don’t need animals do you have me. 👀
@@DONNACEDOHIOK12 such is life we've all lost our loved ones in death, but life goes on, I lost my partner 3yrs ago, I understand how you feel, I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind, it'd be nice if you just say hi here is my number +1206-237-2054 😇
Me too. I’m kind of disgusted ...
I lost my husband last month I feel depressed and I feel like giving up on life but I'm loosing control because there's no reason to be happy
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
So much anger toward someone that is trying to learn how to help people with grieving. I lost my husband of 46 years and I am learning to “adapt” to grief by filling in the gaps of our love, routine and memories. I have a bit of him in each one of our children and feel grateful he is no longer suffering . Life goes on and time goes fast, take care of the living, including yourself. 🙏
Dr Zoe Donaldson I advise you to put yourself through this ''experiment'' so that us around you can watch and learn from your pain. I came to this video trying to find comfort and my blood is boiling. You are a horrible, heartless person. If you want to learn about grief there are plenty of ways out there. If you ever loved a cat, if you ever truly grieved you would never have had the heart to do this. You learned NOTHING because you never loved. Therefor I have nothing to learn from you.
Loss of health and coming to terms with a terminal diagnosis also has its grieving process
such is life we've all lost our loved ones in death, but life goes on, I lost my partner 3yrs ago, I understand how you feel, I'd love to talk to you more if you don't mind, it'd be nice if you just say hi here is my number +1206-237-2054 😇
this is honestly sick. why would you do this to innocent animals?
Hello Hannah
Ummmm this is what our species does, is destroy life for all other species as rapidly as possible. Why is this a surprise?
I agree Hannah,this was no help to me at all,every day im stil suffering even though its been a year ago,Everyday day i think of you and every day i cry,another day has come and gone as life just passes by
I really agree with the rest...this ridiculous experiment didn't show any new information. It's just watching those poor creatures suffer like we do, but at least they didn't have to do it, until we bestow such thing upon them...So what, you understood that in time creatures just give up on hope, ever seeing their loved ones again!!!?? Isn't that what all of us do....I believe we could've come to that conclusion without excessive cruelty.
If you really grieving you'd never try experimenting with grief on others...There are other ways of understanding ourselves, leave the fauna out of it!Haven't we done enough to poor the animal kingdom already...
I learned through reading comments that this lady did experiments of putting animals through grief, so yeah no. I'm not gonna support this by continuing to watch.
That’s what we the left behind know, they are with us till we meet again
Absence of "something"? I lost my little boy to cancer! That "something" was my dear child.
Iam a scientist but this is not the way of explaining and helping someone in grief.
This woman lost a freaking CAT to cancer. She has no emphaty or emotional intelligence.
I hope you are a scientist who believes in a Creator. If you do, here are words of comfort for you. John11:11-14, John 5:28,29. This must take place first:Psalm37:9-11,29; Revelation 21:4,5; Daniel 2:44; Isaiah 55:11.
@@carolmueller3191 no I do not believe in god.
Spot on my learned friend I've lost my daughter and son nothing in this vile world can and will ever make me feel any better the life I knew has gone it's been going on for seven yrs I've lost my sense of smell taste and hearing in left ear I'm finished
We dont "move on". And no we dont conflate grief and depression either; there are totally different things. She obviously didnt learn much during her research.
What a horrible creepy experiment. My husband died a week ago. I turned this on thinking it might be helpful, give me some insight. Now I just feel worse than ever. Please don't do stuff like this to animals in the name of people like me.
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
Pretty...horrible...why not put them back together once you've got this information? Why make them suffer like this? What an awful experiment.
Efforts of pressing the lever is quantitative. But deducing the pushing of the lever as comparable to mourning is an absolutely subjective and qualitative leap. The rodents likely Express it differently in natural environments. Also the first experiment with the vole seeing its partner is likely panic induced. Comparing that likely habit-forming experience to when the vole partner is absent reveals more about the ignorance about grief and probably voles that anything 'creative' and 'scientific'. Just because it is measurable doesn't make it useful. Pretty pointless study. There are ethical ways to study grieving people. Talk to them. Finally, conversations about grief from the perspective of time can surely be studied. There are entire cannons on the subject of perceived time and its science. Ugh
How cruel... I could never do that to those little animals
Hello Shawna
ANIMALS ARENT HERE FOR EXPERIMENTS
Animal cruelty. It should not be acceptable; for this experiment or for pharmaceutical products; that for the most part are a disaster. There must be other ways to study life and health; and not these sociopathic practices
Wow?
"GRIEF IS SIMPLY A FRUSTRATION OF OUR DESIRES"
Did I hear that?
I grieve for all of my loved ones. I've cared for, watched them all die in front of me. I had to stop watching once you started talking about how you are treating the animals in your lab. So you purposely put these animals in an extreme, sad, state, just to study grief. This is wrong. How could you, knowing what loss feels like, inflict that pain, that emptiness, onto another? I'm so incredibly sad for these animals. I pray they know peace before their life's are over!!
I came here thinking I’d get some relief & help through a ted talk after loosing my dog.. instead it tweaked my pain even further knowing some animals are separated cause humans want to “study” how this affects us? What in the world.. where are we going ? This is why I trust animals cause simply humans don’t have the capacity to understand that animals can bond & feel even more than we do. Please stop further studies of animals & ask humans how they’d feel being put through such torture. This is the wrong kind of science, sorry I would not applaud at the end instead walk away from this talk. 🐾💫🕊
This Ted talk did nothing for me. It served no point. I've been grieving for 22 years now. It didn't stop or slowed down. I cry almost every night ever since I can remember. And this did not help me whatsoever. Torturing those animals served no reason. And even if it did, if you truly knew what grief feels like, you wouldn't inflict this pain in them. Shame on you.
“Grieve thou not over the troubles and hardships of this nether world, nor be thou glad in times of ease and comfort, for both shall pass away. This present life is even as a swelling wave, or a mirage, or drifting shadows. Could ever a distorted image on the desert serve as refreshing waters? No, by the Lord of Lords! Never can reality and the mere semblance of reality be one, and wide is the difference between fancy and fact, between truth and the phantom thereof.
Know thou that the Kingdom is the real world, and this nether place is only its shadow stretching out. A shadow hath no life of its own; its existence is only a fantasy, and nothing more; it is but images reflected in water, and seeming as pictures to the eye.” - Abdu’l-Baha
How can she compare the loss of a cat to losing a child? If I were to lose a pet, I could move on and find happines
..because cats are not lesser beings. Just because you perceive them as such does not change the fact that love comes to us in different forms.
So we hear about how they tortured animals who were grieving? Gawd humans make me sick
Imagine if aliens were to conduct such experiments on humans, for the sake of science. Leave animals alone!
Yeah. Unbelievably cruel experiment. Don’t watch if you are looking for comfort or help.
I can't sleep because I lost my mother......what can I do? and I am so depressed......
So sorry
Sorry for your loss. Be strong
GRIEF IS LOVES EXPRESSION....JAHBLESS SOULJAH....
O.k. people who are angry at the animal testing let me ask you. How should she supposed to test this?
Please go vegan. You all look so sympathetic don't put animals in pain
I don't have to imagine that.
I’ve lost my mom 4months ago and I feel broken
2:08!!! So.TRUE!!!
What an ego this so-called scientist has. “My lab” -right. But don’t worry. Karma will educate her.
The "normal " giving process ?! There is nothing normal about it. It's not some linear thing with steps that you go through. It is unique to everyone. This Ted talk is not appropriate. She doesn't understand.
Hold on, do they drill directly into the animal’s head and put the microscope in them? I assume they don’t anesthetize them for it because it would be brutal, but daaaaamn.
Ignorance of how sentient beings feel is rampant in this. Morally wrong. No knowledge will be gained because it IS morally wrong.
What a revolting video! This scientist rivals some doctors with her detached emotions and scientific “objectivity” towards the suffering of animals, and by extension, humans, like those of us trying to make our way through grief, hence clicking on this video. I couldn't make it all the way through. The only interesting tidbit is at 2 minutes when she talks about time, the brain, and memories. Just stop after that!
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
This is AWFUL!! I thought I was going to learn something. All it reinforced was how cruel and removed from humaness science really is. I HATE this TED talk.
"Scientists" are so cruel.
just awful! why this person was on Tedx and audience is not even booing! wow just plain awful
I know you are experimenting but just lessening to it feels wrong u should not do that to animals
I totally disagree with this person is reductionism. And I take grade exception to her experimentation because I feel it’s cruelty. I had to stop watching this. shame.
Hello Sandrine
I know how it feels to be lonely without our love ones, we've all lost our love ones in death one way or the other, either a spouse, child, family members, or a true friend that meant the world to us, such is life I understand how you feel but life must move on because death is inevitable no matter how hard we try! And we'll all have to face it someday..
I lost a child and she is talking about a cat ?
Ben Stuart dating
rediculous
This is torture for the animals. You're taking away the loved ones. I can't believe what I just watched.
Your Cat?..Lol
Hello Jacqueline
:(
Trite
Oof.