Why are fewer babies being born in South Korea? | DW News
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- South Korea is marking a grim milestone this week. New data shows the country's fertility rate has dropped to a record low. South Korea already had the lowest number of births per woman in the world. But last year that fell again.
The average number of expected babies per woman of reproductive age dropped from 0.81 in 2021 to 0.78 in 2022. That is far lower than in other OECD countries which have an average rate of 1.59
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I used to teach English to small children in South Korea and it blew my mind how expensive such a service was. Child rearing is truly a luxury reserved for the upper class in South Korea.
Really? I didn't know it was that bad 🤔
My good friend there's no way that is the cause of the low fertility, there are African women living on a few dollars a day who have six kids. It's because of their declining religiosity and lack of meaning it's a cultural issue first and foremost.
@@TheEverFreeKingNo, she is still correct.
@@TheEverFreeKingAfrican poor women and South Korean women are not comparable.
Poor African have children because children are assets. This is not so in most developed countries.
The birth rate is 0.78 in S.Korea. And I think this is expected to decrease even more.
It should
🥴
@@ameygade1977 it shouldn't
It hit 0.7 in the 3rd quarter of 2023.
I understand South Korean women. You basically have to give up your career and take care of ALL the child care, elder care, housework, and ON TOP OF THAT be discriminated? No, thank you…
It's not worth it. Life is too competitive
And overrated too.
Dogs are more economical and cute.
@@hongju122Or just live on internet 🥲
Deadbeat fathers too Nope
You need Christ in your life. Read the Bible and you will understand the true meaning of Life.God Bless you❤
Japan has been the poster child for low fertility rate so much that people don't realize countries such as Italy, Greece, or Spain have comparable low fertility rate but it doesn't make the news. South Korea's fertility rate is alarmingly low compared to them though.
True. Though Italy and Spain continue to be significant receivers of immigration, so the population will not be dropping as fast.
it's mostly because SKs want to be rich though. they are highly homogeneous with their own rich history and culture and do not look kindly on immigration, specially from mainland china or other large neighboring populations. Koreans themselves can hardly afford to live in SK on top of it being such a toxic society with a nearly insane workaholic culture. this is why so many with the money and opportunity to move out and work in the west will try to do so and seek to live, work and/or marry in the US or Canada, among few other western countries.
This is because they supplement it with immigration from Africa, Near East, and the rest of the EU. If Korea, China, and Japan weren't so zenophobic then this wouldn't be as much of a crisis.
It's because Japan now has a lot of older demographics in their 70s and 80s, and almost no immigrants.
The common factor seems to be that the economy and culture of these countries is very punishing to ordinary young people looking to start a household.
Government: oh people please have babies.
Also government: haha tuition housing price working hours go burrr
Koreans during korean war did not have sometimes eve food and were having tons of children. Your explanation does not make sense koreans just want to spend money in their enjoyment child free that's it
Replace the word Government with Capitalism.
Replace it with Overpopulation....Too many people desire few things
@@ab-hv8qs You clearly don't know what socialism means, do you?
There is a difference between fertility rate and making a choice. It isn't that women are less fertile, it is that they are making a choice based on finances and social changes. Women should not be expected to bear the weight of society. Why can't the society change and give more social and financial supports? It is strange to say women should have more kids to take care of the elderly. Why isn't the government developing systems to assist the elderly? Their culture needs to evolve to respect women's autonomy.
@@zz-if1ic Women should do what nature dictates and that is having babies, this is how mammals including humans exist, what is next we should have men implanted uterus and start having babies?
@@zz-if1ic men and women aren’t equal and never will be
South Korean men are forced to join the military, they don't care about anyone's bodily autonomy. That culture needs changing.
I'd rather we support artificial wombs than pander to you spolied c-words.
Social security also depends on young people at work force to sustain it.
China has similar issue, its population is starting to decrease, which hasn't happened for 60 years, The last time the overall population decreased was due to a famine
Decreasing population
is wonderful news .
.
I read they will drop below a billion people sometime this century!
Patriarchy: dump the care of the house and children on women and expect that a woman's life after marriage will have to revolve around the household; bully women who were abandoned by the father of the children or who themselves left the abuser; justify male cheating; not creating conditions for the career growth of women with children; treat women as inferior
Women: do not want to get married and have children
Patriarchy: surprised pikachu face 🤡
And lack of child support law.A mother who were abandoned by father of her child got arrested because she left child a day and child accidentally killed. The father of the child did not gave her proper child support. So she had to leave to feed herself and got arrested. Now why would korean women wannna have child?
Why Women then don't date inferior men who like to care for children? There are a lot of men who are unemployed.
Nailed it.
Yup right 👍
I hope all women in the world to gain freedom to live alone without men.
In South Korea, marriage means the risk of dating/ sexual abuse and giving birth mean the whole sacrifice of career.
Especially on South Korea online male communities, hate speech toward women is really extreme. Just a lot of curse. Women who read those kind of hate content will never want to date men.
"sacrifice whole career?" what career? I am sure nobody wants to work all week !
Read this again and ask yourself “do South Korean women possess any sort of virtue whatsoever?”
@Dddd-ko2xn Amen sister🙏
Why is there a white baby on a thumbnail of a video about birth rates in South Korea???
They don't have any Korean babies anymore
Capitalism. The cost of living is insane in South Korea and much like in America you can't have kids if you don't have the time and money for it.
The cost of living has always been hard, jack. How do you think the common man lived in Korea back in the 1960s? Ill tell you, it wasnt as well as today
@Greg nothing that significantly changing our social and economic systems can't fix
If you have a proven alternative I'm all ears. I think capitalism had it's moment but realistically its unsustainable. I mean we are all guilty of using it to exploit the world and people. I mean we are supporting it now by using UA-cam lol
BS koreans were having tons of children during the korean war and the economy was a disaster
that is why european countries especially the northern and central ones are great for families and work-life balance
Too much competition among parents to give everything and the best things to their kids: cram schools, music, tae kwon do, sports, foreign language lesson expenses all coming out of parent pockets.
More like materialism over family
@@andresmattos7541That is so true!
Do we have to grind ourselves at cram schools for university entrance exam to do the same thing to our children?
DEFINITELY NOT.
If they want to solve their birth rate problem maybe try paying people more money for their jobs so they can have more children and still be financially stable at the same time and from what I hear that it’s expensive to live in South Korea specially big places like Seoul
Why do poor countries have high birth rates?
@@SweetPlain because they keep bre*ding & didn't work that much ?
@@KimAhrina11 because korean culture ist a degenerated culture. korean would spend Money for Entertainment and Thing than children. so why seoul is the City with worst childbirth? because of degenerated consumer Habits.
@@SweetPlain Kids die more often and kids are used as little workers you don't need little workers in first world nations because we have technology to fill the gap.
@@SweetPlain if they are poor that means their education is lower meaning little access to economic upgrades and so their best shot at a better life is their offspring, that’s how it has been for most of human history. But Korea gives the appearance of access to social and economic upgrades through education and work but access to these very this has very very VERYYYY stiff competition and failing to keep up is detrimental because you can’t even fall on your kids anymore in that kind of system yk? Also, access to high level education has been proven to lower birth rates because people learn about reproductive health but mostly how much more difficult it is to live a more sophisticated material life (learned about through such education) when you have a child and low capital.
The pressure to work very long hours seems so ingrained in South Korean and Japanese cultures. In a previous job, I remember I could phone our South Korean contacts at any time and there'd be someone there. The poor person at the other end of the line usually sounding very fatigued and exhausted. When people from our company went out to do a site visit / installation, they came back absolutely busted, working like South Koreans for a week. There were tales of some people sleeping under their desks Tuesday - Thursday, fairly regularly, and working every waking hour, 6 or 7 days a week. When you witness this first hand, it's not hard to understand why people can't have kids and raise a family.
As an outsider, it's hard to see how this changes given the societal pressure to keep doing this. I've seen some reports and documentaries on schemes Japan introduced to try and stop these crazy working hours but they're barely enforced or adhered to. Even the employees themselves work round it as it's more shameful to not be keeping up with your peers. I suspect it would be very similar in South Korea, if laws like that were introduced.
It’s like the 1% playing real life squid games it’s same in Mumbai, India. The only difference is we r so many that death at workplace only means one more vacancy for our huge unemployed young populations, yes we r overworked underpaid & so exhaused that deaths r common among youngsters on job but the media never discusses these things
So why they had kids during WW2? Not all of them were due to sexual abuse by the Imperial Army.
@@D.2601 or maybe it is the rape epidemic and females finding Indian men revolting?
I worked at a Korean company for +10 yrs, and we often worked 12-15 hrs Mon-Thurs. And then for parents to expect them to date, marry, and raise kids in those conditions.... I really don't know how some of them did it. But it was ridiculous!!
Another ignorant comment. Almost every developed country has low birth rate. Germany's, without the mass immigrants, will be lower than Japan's that is highest among developed Asian nations. Italy, Spain etc would be same. France n the US are just a bit better just for the mass immigration.
Also Japan is the country with one of the longest life expectancy in the world. Which means the work-life balance is not what u guys always try to make it look like.
South Koreans have to take good care of their children as well as their adult parents. That's why young generations would rather give up having a child. Having to take care of their parents is already too much burden for them!
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Does anybody else ever get weirded out when population decrease is talked about and it's always about women not having kids. Uh maybe my biology classed lied to me. But men play a pretty significant role in starting the process and also play a significant role in raising said children. I have seen so many fatherless kids and it's not fun to watch.
Has nothing to do with that. It's for ease of statistical tracking.
해외 뉴스에서도 소개되는 우리나라의 자랑스런 출산률😂
2 reasons
A - women are no longer housewife
B - income of just husband is not good enough in this age of inflation.
C - in spite of that facts most sk women are willing to marry instead of getting a job.
D - there are plenty of homo
sapiens on this planet, no
need to produce more .
The main reasons for low fertility rate in South Korea.
1. Extremely high house price : Most people abandoned to buy house for marriage and raise child because of high house price. They have to gather all the wage about 40 years to buy a house.
2. Very long work time : There is no time to take care of others.
3. Low social supports : Fewer social supports caused raising child pretty difficult in normal family.
4. Other fun activities except own family : There are a lots of activities such as drinking, shopping, driving, oversea trip, climbing and eat out, etc. These activities make people enjoy their life without family.
1. int the 60's Koreans could not afford a house or even eat
2. Koreans worked long hours in the 60s 70s and 80s as well
3. during the Korean war there was no social support
AND YET KOREANS WRE HAVING X6 TIMES MORE CHILDREN IN THE 60S THAN TODAY. YOU EXPLANATION IS BS.
결정적인 이유
Unable to afford private education expenses for about 13 years, and if you do not register for this or that academy due to serious competition, your child will fall behind in competition. If your child falls behind in competition, they can't go to a good university. If your child doesn't go to a good university, your child won't be treated well in this country. Which parent would want to make their child like that? + No one wants to make their child suffer the pain they have done -> immigration or giving up giving birth to a child.
And I know very well that even if they successfully finish college and get a job, they will never be happy. Just looking at young people right now, working overtime, a little hobby, and sleeping are basically daily routines. With the money earned from working in that way, people who do not have a home save money to buy a house and save money to prepare for their remaining money such as insurance, tax, heating, electricity, and water bills. There is a pension system in Korea that all adults under the age of 60 have to pay. However, currently, the elderly population in Korea is significantly larger than the younger population, so working young people are paying, but it is highly likely that they will not be able to get it back when they become older. Therefore, young people now have to pay and prepare for their retirement again. Given these situations, would you have a child or would you enjoy traveling and live a leisurely life with the rest of your money?
@@andresmattos7541 simple answer is " education" that enables "futher learning " result in "prediction"
@@무야호-y2e YOU RE ABLE TO AFFORD A NICE CAR AND A NICE APPARTMENT AND NICE VACATION LIKE MANY KOREANS RIGHT? BUT YOU HAVE NO MONEY TO RISE A CHILD? SHAME ON YOU SELFISH PEOPLE, YOU GUYS WILL CAUSE KOREA'S DEMISE.
@@andresmattos7541 times have changed, the priorities and lifestyle of people have changed, so your opinion is the BS one.
the interesting thing is the smallest cities in Korea people are actually having more kids, because it's more stress-free living on the countryside. but in the capital where half the population lives, people are choosing not to have kids which is affecting the whole country. the government I think needs to have policies to get people to move to the countryside
the 20 sqm room cost one million dollars in Seoul, it is not feasible for average Korean living in this city to ever being able to get anything more than this. with their median salary of 2 thousand dollars.
that's insane
Leave Seoul...move to Sejong or a small town
@@natashadickson4819 It is not an option for most, since all decent jobs located in Seoul. Only blue collar jobs are in small towns or agriculture, but its not in favor among young Koreans.
Why are they asking about women? Men are not having those children as well? How about asking why people are not having kids?
You are right .
Same old story
everywhere .
Kinda weird to see a caucasian baby on the thumbnail picture instead of an Asian child.
Honestly there are too many population in sk. Time to optimize density of population to ease the competition
It's cost of living. It's too expensive to have babies in urban cities.
DURING THE 60'S WHEN KOREA WAS STILL A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY KOREANS WERE HAVING 6 TIMES MORE CHILDREN THAN TODAY SO YOUR EXPLANATION IS BS.
It’s planned 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think south korea has no future
Low birth rate does not only happen to South Korea, it also happens all east Asian countries & regions, including Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong etc. East Asian working cultures are toxic for raising families. Workers work excessively long hours. To make it explicit, people work so long hours that couples do not even have intimate moments for their married life. The peer pressure and and social pressure is too strong to push people to do better than others around you. I am an east Asian ethnic person, so I would summarise the reasons the follows:
1. Strong cultural environments to promotes career success than family values;
2. Nearly total ignorance of governments and large corporate employers (some may argue such ignorance is not a complete one.)
3. Childcare costs (personally I think this is only a minor one.)
4. Decline of family values, or family values being replaced with so called career success values;
5. In east Asian cultures, there is a still an implicit but yet strong gender discriminations in general. Yet this makes women less incentives to have children, having children could mean complete give up on their careers; having children means losing freedoms for many women.
6. Excessive long working hours, so long that people do not have time for intimate moments (try to work 12 hours+ for 5 five days or more every week, then you will understand.)
Personally I believe East Asians will understand eventually, it takes time but they will follow the European and American values to boost birth rate.
What about the goals of womans emancipation/womanism?
Even in East Asia, conservative Japan has a much higher birth rate than liberal Taiwan and South Korea, which follow more Western values.
"Personally I believe East Asians will understand eventually, it takes time but they will follow the European and American values to boost birth rate."
If China takes the same approach to birth rate as she did to emulating the west upon being eaten away by western powers, then she is doomed. She resisted bitterly and took way longer to modernize.
1. KOREANS IN THE 60S HAD A MUCH WORSE WORK ENVIRONMENT YET THEY HAD 6 TIMES MORE CHILDREN
2. THE KOREAN GOV IS DOING A LOT AND SPENT BILLIONS BUT STILL KOREANS ARE NOT HAVING BABIES
3. IN THE 60S WHEN KOREA AS A POOR 3RD WORLD COUNTRY THEY WERE HAVING X6 TIMES BABIES
4. AGREE KOREANS ARE CHOOSING LUXURY AND PLEASURE CARRER OVER FAMILY, SELFISHNESS
5. DURING THE 60S KOREAN SOCIETY WAS MUCH MORE SEXIST AND PATRIARCHAL YET THEY WERE HAVING X6 TIMES MORE BABIES
6. KOREANS DURING THE 60S AND 80S WORKED THE HARDEST TO BUILD SAMSUNG HYUDNAI DAEWOO, ETC YET THEY HAD 6 TIMES MORE BABIES
YOUR EXPLANTION IS BS.
BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOUNG KOREANS WANT TO ENJOY THEIR LIFE AND KEEO P WITH THEIR CARRERS AND RATHER THAN RISING A CHILD. PURE ACT OF SELFISHNESS THAT WILL END UP WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE KOREAN ECONOMY AND SOUTH KOREA IN FEW DECADES.
@@andresmattos7541 I would love to read your whole answer, but only big letters are like somebody who is talking to loud with you. You just can't continue to listen.
Did you write about emancipation/womanism? To what extent do you think it had and has an impact in korea?
It's great news! Nature is balancing out the overpopulation on Earth without famine. As capitalism squeezes people into impossible situations that is not hospitable to family life with children, couples find it simpler to just have fewer, or none. Few people want to live on the edge of economic disaster, penny pinching their lives away taking care of children especially since women are working just to make ends meet as it is in capitalistic societies. Now if employers were to pay a substantial increase in income to couples that want children---- fine, and dandy!
BINGO!
Low wages, high living cost. Easy. Stay childfree.
However, personally I will not, and will never criticise any couple or woman's decision not to have a child. In the sharp contrast, I will give my full empathy to those couples and women deciding not to have children. It is us the whole society, the incompetent governments, the greedy large corporations, and the toxic cultures who fail those couples and women.
So the extinction of a country is not more important than a woman decision not to have a child? ridiculous, a WHOLE country can become extinct.
But you should also consider that a low birth rate leads to a low population that pays taxes to maintain the public services they need. Unfriendly countries with higher population will take advantage of it either by going to war or migration to control the country.
@Gymnocalycium6493 What are you talking about I've never ever heard anyone chiding men for not having kids they usually get praised for not getting trapped by a woman or no one bats an eye at his choice. Now I have heard people criticize couples for not having kids.
@@RyzenShanks Then that's the Government/Corporations fault for creating an environment that has both a poor work/life balance and makes having children financially risky.
I don't blame the average S. Korean citizen for not wanting to put up with that nonsense.
@@RyzenShanks lol weird equation low birth rate only impacted numbers of employment not the economy it self money still within the circle but being used for other purpose like eletronics and car so was tax and any form of public funded service ... unless most of population decide to spend it outside the country the economy will remains the same
You often sees a certain degree of condescension of other cultures with these kinds of overly simplistic questions. Culture and political structures or polices often take a very long time to evolve and improve.
Boy, the lady explains badly.
Living in Korea,
US and other nations have costly housing, costly childcare, overworking in several sectors, and many in Korea do not overwork as much now, and some sort of gender gap exists in other nations as well. We do lack the ratio of female chief managers, that's true.
Thus, similar problems exist all across the world.
Focusing on the recent steeper fall,
housing bubble has done a lot on the thoughts of the potential mothers.
We Koreans are heavily focused on the haves and the not haves, very comparing.
And the recent housing bubble put this sense of FOMO on many young people, then they would not get married, or not have children, for they worry about the comparison they would face in the future due to their status of having and not having a preferred form of housing.
Another big factor, and it actually comes together, is probably the lack of job stability here. The biggest paradox, employers cannot terminate employment easily here, but we have a very small rate of people working in offices to the late age. A lot of office workers get pushed out at their 40s and perhaps even 30s now. And the labor market is very stiff, lacking transactions, thus lacking opportunities. This has put down many young peoples' confidence on their lives.
But then, you still wonder, in the US for example, even those who face similar situations still have children. Are we just all selfish then? Or do we lack the faith in our country and its future?
@@bevvyjune4753 Not necessarily.
But the future society depends on it.
She has 0 listening comprehension ability.
@@bevvyjune4753 or understanding u cant afford to have one ?
So what if u breed like rabbits but then what if u cant afford their needs whos gonna fill in the gap ?
People are just too competitive in South Korea.
난 한국인이고 한국의 출산율이 왜 낮은 지에 대해
알려줄께
높은교육률때문이라고 많이들 이야기하는데
원인중 하나긴하지만 진짜 큰 문제는 다른데있어
1.높은 부동산 가격 : 젊은 사람들이 살곳이 없어져가 사회초년생들은 집사기 드럽게 어려워졌지
2. 워라벨이 없는 한국 근로문화 : 한국은 야근을 많이하는 나라중 하나야 과연 한국인들이 일을좋아서하냐 아냐 안하면 사장들이 계속 압박을 줘서 하는거야
3.타인에 대해 너그러움이 없음: 이건 두번째문제랑 이어지는건데 한국인들은 갑질이라는걸많이해 이게머냐 서비스직이나 자신보다 아래에있는사람들에게 막대하고 부려먹으려고하는 문화야 그리고 자신에겐 너그럽지만 남들이 조금만 잘못해도 물어뜯으려하지 추가로 한국에선 일도 빨르게 정확하게 해야돼 안그럼 욕을하고 싫어하지
참고로 한국의 동사무소 처리속도는 모든 나라중 제일빠르지 또 한국인들은 기다리는걸 싫어해
이게 근데 근로자들에겐 엄청난 스트레스와 압박을 줘
4. 기득권을 가지고 편갈라치기 하는 정치권
이건 말하기도 복잡한데..쉽게 말하면 정치인사들이 자기들 선거에 뽑히는거에만 관심있고 다 나이가많은 5,60대라 국가의 미래엔 딱히 별관심이 없어 그래서 남,녀 갈라치기, 노인,젊은사람 분쟁,지역분쟁 등등만 일으키지
자 대충 내가 생각한 한국사람들이 애를 낫지않는이유야 아 추가로한가지
한국에서 애낳으면 그아이는 노예가 된다
우슷갯소리로 그런말을 하고있어 그만큼 애낳아봤자 아둥바둥 힘든 현실을 살아야한다 이뜻이지
BLAH BLAH BLAH YOU YOUNG KOREANS JUST WANT TO ENJOY LIFE, CARRERS AND LUXURY CARS AND DESIGNER ITEMS INSTEAD OF RISING A CHILD, THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
같은 한국인으로서 이게 정확한 의견임. 교육보다는 부동산이 더 문제임. 특정 세대가 너무 많은 부동산 이득을 보고 그게 너무 지나쳐 다음 세대에 아이를 낳을 수 없는 수준임. 공공주택을포함하여 모든 수단을 동원해 부동산에 집중만 해도 출산율 1.0이상은 가능하다 봄. 솔직히 까놓고 말해서 한국발전 고생은 노인세대나 지금 돌아가신 더 윗 세대가 다한거지 부동산으로 이익 본 4050세대가 기여한 것 없으므로 그리해도 됨. 안 하면 한국 멸망임.
@@tesla3388 you koreans didn't have houses in the 60s and were having x6 times more children.
I look at the world we live in this day and age and ask why would I want to bring up a child when there’s so much disparity? That said, there are children in orphanages and foster homes that would flourish with a loving family.
Your parents should have not brought u to life too? There has always been. Wars and crime
🤦♀️
I don't want to raise a child in this crazy world we living in either
Reproduction is rooted in biological narcissism. It's a selfish urge by natural selective and evolutionary design.
@@andresmattos7541 Absolutely, I wish they hadn’t.
Just a reminder that a 2 bedroom apartment in Seoul can cost 1.2 million dollars
rent is much more affordable than many western countries, it is similar to china where property prices and rent diverge significantly.
In a future world being dominated by automation, AI and ever scarce resources, do we really need so many people living on earth?
Exactly.
Yeap. The “population bomb” is gonna save us.
Let’s kill out the future for money and automation !
well, I hope you dont expect to have any other human taking care of your parents as seniors. if you do, then you better look back at your statements with regret. havent you ever watched i-Robot. Will's granny's robot put some senior's nurse out of a job, but no one ever wonders if she got as good a job making the robots his- or herself, because everyone is busy wondering if Sonny really is alive.
It could just be you and me Nikhil and it would be to many people dude. Nothing wrong with more people it’s just what kind of people were getting that matters.
Treat women better and lower the cost of living.
I want this "crisis" to be happening in my country Bangladesh. Here people give birth like bunny 🐇.
religious people always have more children 🧒
@@zhangshiyucao ikr they're just too ho r, even people with high body counts didn't have that many kids
Having children means living in poverty. I make more then enough to enjoy been single with no kids, if I get marry and have kids I would have to get a second job, screeeeeeew that
This is happening in the west right now.
No more baby because of rainbow 🌈 behavior community
Good
Ahahahaha
why bother with it all, i will live a much more comfortable life not having kids.
Your mother should have not give you birth then...
it is a problem for the majority since your pension is dependant on future generations as well as the prosperity of the country. People don't like that, even if it is not a bad idea on paper
@@Chris3s Most of us won't ever have a "pension" or retirement anyway.
forcing someone to have kids to be money printers is not the solution to this.
cult of misery at this point.
@@KaiserMattTygore927don't worry Africans and islam has solution for u 😂😂
Population decline can reach a tipping point from where it can be difficult to recover from. Women are only fertile for a certain time and if this period isn’t productive then it can be difficult to increase the birth rate later because the people won’t be born in the first place.
True and it already passed the tipping point because the low birth rate issue has continued since 2000. This year's record-low birth rate is nothing but an outcome of the low birth rate 20 years ago, and it will get worse in future. Ironically, there was a campaign 50 years ago to control the birth rate in the opposite direction - "have one child and raise him/her well" was the slogan, and that campaign was too successful. 🙄😮💨
The real reason the birth rate is low is because women and women issues are not valued. Many primitive societies worshiped women, they realised that they’re survival depended on women. Everything was done to ensure a woman’s comfort, contentment and security so she would decide to have and raise her children not so in Korea the society seems to have unintentionally arranged to have women stressed to their maximum.
@Peter Beyer this is. It about mistreatment of women. Koreans just rather enjoy life and thei careers instead of rising a child. Your explanation is BS
Talk about fertility period when the average marriage age is usually above 30 in korea. Pretty short window of time.
Even if there are less people, if the birth rate increased that would still lead to an increase in population size
Koreans, just like europeans do not have enough children because they want to make sure their kids will have food, water, a good education, etc.
They feel like it is not possible, and most of them are right, because everything now has to be paid and prices are crazy.
The rise of feminism and atheism also makes women feel less pressure and focus much more on themselves. Most teenagers girls today, in the West and East Asia, think that having babies is a waste of time and if you pay attention they get tired of children just by being around them for 2, 3 hours.
I know women who are +40 yo, with no children, who get tired of hearing a little baby cry after 15 minutes...
BI t the problem with koreans is not money or lack of housing but is that they rather use the money for their pleasures and develop their careers.
Don't worry islam has solution 😂😂
Fe*inism has done a massive damage that's nobody can recover.
@@joexavier4070 Funny enough middle eastern countries r decreasing birth rates too lol
@@Fatima-kp8hi not like developed ones
As a Korean, i still don't understand why she is talking about gender inequality. do you really believe that is a key reason for low birth rate ? ...
In this day and age, having a child is a luxury.
Expensive housing is always an issue behind low birth rates. What about the government offering public housing for a 1000 sqft apartment at US$1,000 per month guaranteed for all citizens aged 35 or older subject to an income cap? South Korea has the cultural exposure to solve the birth rate issue.
During the 60s when korea was still a 3rd.world.coyntry poor they were having 6 more times babies...
So this explanation is BS
There are countries with lots of state owned property lent to the people to prevent any housing crisis and some of them still have low birth rates. It's not just an economic problem.
The problem is basically an agressive, brutal capitalism
The One Percent wants more worker drones.
Ai is coming for millions of jobs anyway. Far better to reduce the population naturally instead of increasing it and then have people unable to find a job and literally having to live And suffer in the streets just to meet some arbitrary goal of a higher population amount
It's because of the workaholic culture that's developed in the last 4 decades! Same thing here in the West! If governments are serious about tackling this looming calamity, they will invest in parenthood. More maternity and paternity leave, subsidized daycare, and financially incentivizing young couples to have children.
I was wondering when people were going to talk about this. For some reason everyone is focused on the PRC birth rate while Japan Taiwan and South Korea are on suicide mission.
I think it's probably because it's so big on the world stage, has/had the biggest population, and the government actively had policies for decades that have no backfired.
I guess it's like how everybody is always focused on the US.
The big players always get the most attention.
you'll do anything but admit the misogynistic workings of that society
keep work hours 8 and give 2 days leave in a week. and suddenly you will see everything changing.
Money does not save birth rates. Never did, never will do.
Women, understandably want to have a career - but nature gave women a disproportionate amount of work in the birthing process. Having a child, even if a man were to take care of it, means 9 months of feeling seriously ill sometimes and 1-3 months of not being able to work at all if you as a mother of a newborn, want to leave your newborn child as soon as possible in the care of someone else for 9-12 hours a day. Even if men take care of half of the child rearing responsibilities, there will be families where the woman will be quite content being a housewife and allowing her man to outcompete the men helping in rearing children.
This is the result of the dream of men and women being independent. This is the cold, hard truth people refuse to acknowledge because of weird implications in their mind. No, there won't be a handmaid's tale - no woman needs to fear that if they don't live in an authoritarian state. Nature will settle it itself. The only children that will be born, will be to mothers that aren't career driven. Sooner or later that gene will gain traction and will add to the growing sexual dimorphism in our species. It's not something that needs to be forced, it's not something I even wish to happen, but at the moment it looks like that is the likely future of the decisions, we as humans make.
Ever heard of artificial wombs. It will free women from bearing children. Child care will fall on both man and woman.
Blame feminism. Men are choosing not to have children as well.
Politicians do not realize that the cause for this problem is the Economy itself and they dare not change it
The low birth fertility rate for women in Korea means very little- the data should be segregated into those who choose not to give birth and those who can’t. The former is a victory for women’s rights, and a subject for further anthropological studies. Only the latter should be addressed as a gap in the policies. The ‘low fertility rate’ discourse assumes that all women should or want to give birth, which is not true.
Western countries also same path 🙄
Why no news about that
It's not as severe as in east Asia. Also western countries are implementing or already have a functioning immigration system which could deal with the demographics issues.
Asian countries are so ethnically homogenous and their citizens are not very used to having immigrant neighbours.. so I don't know if they can open up immigration as well as the westerners.
@@Beefmongering i don't think so... homogeneous population of Europe will treat immigrants so "polite"
Because it's white birthrates that are decreasing.
@@Beefmongering that just causes a different demographic issue
Just don’t bother at all let it drop I’m done with humans
Its a money thing ... if you were to offer a woman $1800/mo for sixteen
years + a 3 bedroom condo upon the birth of a 3rd baby to the mother,
S.Korea would see its birth rate double or even triple. Mothering thus
becomes a viable career for sixteen years .. at which point the kids will
be at least 12 and don't need a babysitter. Perhaps also offer certain
advantages in hiring 3rd birth mothers for good state jobs ? Korea has
enough money to do this, as does Japan.
NAHHHH KOREAM GOV HAS SPENT BILLIONS AND NO KOREANS ARE HAVING CHILDREN, IF YOU GIVE THAT MUCH MONEY TO YOUNG KOREANS THEY WILL USE THAT TO BUY MERCEDES OR A GUCCI BAG INSTEAD OF HAVING A CHILD, IS NOT A MONEY PROBLEM IS A PROBLEM OF THEY WANT TO ENJOY LIFE WITH NO ATTACHEMENTS OR RESPONSIBILITIES.
@@andresmattos7541 If all Koreans were as greedy as you say, none of them would have children. Some Korean women DO want children -- what Korea needs to do is to assist them financially, and then to create a large incentive to have at least three children. Just my $.02
@@grampajim1595 IM NOT SAYING THEY ARE GREEDY BUT THEY ARE SELFISH THEY WANT TO JUST F ING ENJOY LIVE AND SPEND MONEY IN PLREASURABLE THINGS LIKE CARS, DESIGNER CLOTH, VACATIONS, IMPROVE THEIR CARREERS INSTEAD OF BEING ATTACHED TO A BABY, SO NO MONEY IN THE WORLD WILL MAKE THEM HAVE BABIES.
@@andresmattos7541 That's right, Koreans fear taking responsibility and are selfish. Regardless, North Korea won.
@@grampajim1595 look at their consume habits, fun, enthertainment. just look what they spend their money. going to cofeebar and spend 1000$ than spend it for children. degeneration of culture.
If I compare the cultures, a sporting event for your High School Kids in South-Africa has MASS parent support, if you don't arrive early there is no parking, TV Coverage if it's a big game with two prominent schools playing eg. Rugby. Parents work in the week and weekends we watched our kids' sports, orchestra, choirs etc. Some healthy activities besides only working. It's fun, you meet the parents and learn to mingle a bit.
It would be an idea for the government to create a system where they can create affordable duplex living villages with pre-schools and after-school care, plus GOOD old age homes. How must a woman work, look after her family, children, parents, and in-laws? It's too much! There should be reasonable paying half day jobs for mothers. There HAS to be such jobs in SK.
It’s all by design what is going on.
What about North Korea?
We have a childlessness crisis, so let's talk about "discrimination". Ridiculous.
인도사람이 한국에 많이와주삼
Too much work and not enough nooki nooki leads to lower birth rate!
I think there is a lot of nooki nooki
It's just a lot of protected nooki
日本も韓国のこと笑ってられないんだよな
逆だよ逆
20年間ずっと日本の出生率、老年化指数、経済成長率を笑ってたらもう全部日本に追い越されたよ
今度は若者を追い出してこしらえた一人当たりGDPマウント取るしかなくなった落ちぶれた国だよ
下を向いて安心してる暇なんかどの国もないってのは同感だね
하지만 일본 상황이 훨씬 더 낙관적이다.
そうよ
No children, no future.
This is actually "good news" in a wide view of society. It means there's a limit to capitalism and greed. It means balance is what needs to be on top priority. It means we need to rethink the capitalistic rule over our lives.
@@derek4412 I don't think u understood what he meant. He means we can only take greed (and probably competition) so far before society collapses because the people become collateral and can't handle it anymore
@@derek4412 so basically the elites have all the money, like literally 90% or more of all the money and wealth and society doesn't function properly anymore. So the elites need to rethink capitalism or pull back on the greed
this is not a big problem .. why amplify it?
THIS IS NOT A BIG PROBLEM LOL
I think one of the reason is destroyed childcare infrastructure. Such as no child health care, closed school, and noting related law to support busy parents.
One solution all countries can engage in while not sacrificing a woman's bodily autonomy and desire to choose when she has children, is to pay for or subsidize egg retrieval and fertility treatments so that women have eggs or embryos saved should they choose that path in the future when they are financially and personally ready. If you want women to have children you will have to work with them, not against them -- unless these countries are looking into Handmaid's Tale type solutions (which I'm sure some of them will unfortunately engage in).
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏🤣🤣🤣
Artificial wombs are the solution
Why should govt pay for egg storage and retrieval? If you don't want child, don't have any.
Nah that Woman (Hawon Jung) don't understand/ have no clue what she is talking about :( ...
They mention the major problem in passing but then drop it. Korean people have to work themselves half to death just to earn an ok single living. The work demand on both men and women drains them of any energy or will to build families.
Meanwhile, North Korea's birth rate is stable.
Think about that.
No feminism
@@devilslogic609 both national socialist is key
Young Koreans have learnt many lessons from their parents talking about hardships of a marital life. They ve been told of that lessons for many years and they felt a marriage a total useless devotion towards children and beloved half ! another reason behind low fertility rate matters with Korea's first Wealthy generation. Young Koreans at the moment been facing the most prosperous society and economy ever in many centuries. Korea became one of top countries in the world and have similar life norms and high expectations like developed countries in Western Europe. So YOung Koreans would like to benefit most of all just for themselves by spending whole salaries on themselves , for example, Traveling abroad for a long time and spending a majority of expenditures on Luxury goods from Europe and Luxury Cars with loans. Anyway , i hope this is a temporary and gets better with Unification
No more k pop and k drama in the future 😄😆
This woman has no clue what she is talking about.
There won't be any people existing in this world but left wingers will still shill for their chosen field of activism.
독일처럼 무슬림 받아서 출산율 높이느니 그냥 우리끼리 이렇게 사는게 낫다. 눈 가리고 아웅도 정도껏 합시다. 출산율 높이고 싶으면 호주 모델로 가야.
Really terrible interview. It started talking about fertility rates and descended into a sexist discussion. This lady should study America where the policies she proposes have crashed the fertility rates. I don’t think this lady really knows why the fertility rates have fallen. Maybe it’s the long work hours and materialism and not the feminist blame game that’s causing fertility rates to fall.
The more the birth rate goes down, the more the world will become biodiverse, so less people and more wildlife. I’ll explain history of depopulation…… In the late 1980s to early 1990s there was massive depopulation in Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the Baltics because of massive emigration, declining fertility rates, and rising mortality rates. The two countries in Eastern Europe to suffer from the most depopulation were Ukraine and Romania. The countries in the Balkans to suffer from the most depopulation were Bulgaria and Albania. All of the three Baltic states (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) suffered massive depopulation due to massive emigration, declining birth rates and rising death rates. Russia also suffered from depopulation, from 1993 to 2009 the population of Russia declined from over 148 million to over 142 million people, a decline of nearly 6 million people. In 2009 or 2010 Japan had its first population decline for the first time. In early 2021 South Korea had its first population decline. In early 2023 Mainland China saw its first population decline in over 60 years. In 2023 India surpassed China as the world’s most populous country.
THE GOV MUST BUY HOUSING, OFFERED IT TO MARRIED COUPLES, AND THE WOMEN MUST HAVE 2 OR MORE CHILDREN AND STAY HOME TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, ALSO FREE CHILD CARE, THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE BRITH RATE UP
Mostly on point except for feminism being a main driver.
Korea's average marriage age is in the 30s. Of course fertility rate goes lower than other countries whose average marriage age is in the 20s.
Now comes the question, why don't they marry? According to surveys, it is commonly shown that men replied that they don't have enough money, while women replied that they don't feel the necessity of marriage.
For men, they feel the burden of being a father in a patriarchal society. It's common sense for them to sacrifice themselves for the family. When they say they don't have enough money, they are saying that they don't make enough money to nurture their family and aren't prepared for the sacrifice.
Women on the other hand don't feel the necessity, meaning they can live on their own. Yes, it could mean they don't want the patriarchal structure to bound them. But it also could mean that they make enough money to support themselves and can see their career continuing on to the future. In this case, it's bs to say that glass ceiling stops women from going onward from a career.
Korea's gender gap has widened hugely since 2015. Biased opinions flow greatly through the media. Yes, that women is a leftist and I'm a rightist. I am biased too. So I urge those who want to know more look into this issue with a doubtful eye on both views and analyze it on their own.
Korea's gender inequality is riddled with nonsense.
A good example is conscription. All Korean men are required to serve in the military when their age comes. Women don't. Why? The supreme court of Korea literally ruled 'women are unfit for military'.
Such a bold statement to be said. How did the feminist society react? Nothing. They know military service is hard and painful, so they just decided to agree that they are physically incapable. Personally, I cannot imagine feminists in other countries being called physically incapable and standing back.
I believe that all women and men are equal and should be treated the same. When a group which calls themselves feminists, who literally wants equal rights, decides to ditch their responsibilty just for comfort, I feel no need to respect those groups.
Gender inequality exists for women AND men. When one wants to improve it, they need to improve both not one. The victims of a patriarchal society isn't only women but both.
It's not about difficult life, lot of other countries have far worse life. People don't want kids because kids are difficult and raise. I have two kids, most of my time goes in caring them. But I like being a parent, if you want me to sit around with my kids or go hiking, I would rather sit with me kids. It's about priorities and life choices.
Yup it’s a choice and I respect their choice. I’d rather go hiking than sit with kids and I h8 hiking
The art behind the author/journalist could be a metaphor for the burden of Korean women. Their expectations, goals, practicalities are causing them to buckle but not collapse.
0.78 would be none, right O.O? with that president is going to reach 0.0 for sure, besides there is this other thing that is your partner leaves you being a single mother/father is seen as being a pariah, they even fire you from your job for that and the children cant receive any medical coverage if he doesn't have the names of both parents
Patriarchy and gender inequality is a big driver here - Japan and Italy also have very high expectation on women relatively to child rearing and also have very low birth rate.
This patriarchal expectation forces women out of the workforce if they want kids and many don't want too quit their job or, more often then not, cannot afford too. This is were gender equality kick in - give women more representation and power and they will ask for things like free childcare and huge paid leave for both mothers and fathers.
These policies exist in Norway and France which both having the highest birth rate in Europe (at around 12 per 1K pop) way ahead of Italy (8 per 1k pop).
All that is BS koreans were even more patriarchal during the korean war, korean economy was a disaster during the korean war and they were having tons of children, its called selfishness.
agree here, many european countries have good policies to incentivise having children
Still to low
France has High birthrate due to immigrants
Norway birth rate is pretty much the same as Japan lol
So, they're basically putting a lot of pressure on the younger generation?
That makes sense.
It's very basic. Having kids are expensive.
I don't know why that woman talks about gender inequality 🤔
Can’t wait for dystopian child quotas or breeding facilities. This world can always get weirder
South korea is a poor Country.. Because they not have proper accommodation / housing facilities.. So the common people not have proper space. Govt of Korean should try focus on Citizen basic needs, not rewards for children bearing.
The guy is Indian they set the bar sky high for patriarchy
Cry patriarchies we will live while ur race will go extinct
If you dont have a lot of money but want a kid of your own to love its understandable, but if you have more than one and you know you cant afford you are inconsiderate and are not thinking of them. Anyone can have kids, it takes an adult to be responsible and know how many they can take good care of.
Ok then do it. Alone. In Korea. You wont
People don’t have a job or money. Therefore why have children just so they have it hard.
In the United States and most of the West, that's called a tax break. Do you realize that the U.S. government since the 1970s has given single mothers money, cash assistance, WIC food and Food Stamps and tax breaks for having kids? In fact, the more kids you have, the more money you get back. Upward of several thousand dollars/child. Don't believe me, look it up. Btw, that's only if, you're a single mother or divorced? This is one of the reasons why women are encouraged to have children out of wedlock... This is also one of the reasons for the rise of the "single- parent" family, the "baby-mama" and the problem with absentee fathers. I know this, because I know a lot of young women who've had these problems.
In the 60s koreans had no money no house no cars and were having 6 times more children...
low marriage comes from high housing price rather than gender gap at work place. in korea, housing price is getting serious and mad from polarization in property. there is no way to the society full of greed in capitalism.
🙄🙄😡 Stop calling the lowering birth rate a CRISIS!!! It’s not a bad thing for the people!! It’s only a bad thing for mega wealthy employers!! For average peasants, it’s gonna mean less competition for good jobs!! It’s gonna mean if companies want to hire or retain you, they will have to sweeten the pot and offer you higher pay and better working conditions!!! But if you want to increase your birth rate, the very first thing you need to do is make child care affordable. The second thing you need to do, but arguably the most important, is address the widespread deep misogyny issues in your culture!!! And this is across the board! There is not a country on planet earth that does not have a misogyny and gender discrimination problem!!! Sure, the men have seen fit to give us women the vote in the past few decades of world history. But women need actual equality! And frankly, we’re getting really tired of waiting for it!
As capitalism takes on extreme form, it's not worth the time and effort anymore. Slowly over time, most of the developed countries are moving toward 2 classes, the rich and the poor. The middle class as a whole in recent years are simply worker bees that have very minimal to live by if they have kids. it's a cycle of giving birth so that your children can be the next worker bee who will give birth to more worker bees. There are exceptions to the story, but most of the people are just born and raised to serve the 1% master, so why wouldn't people just enjoy living it out and let the cycle ends?