Behringer 2600 - This is not in the Manual
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- The 2600 is an incredibly powerful machine and Behringers version gives you a lot for your money. However, there are a few things that are a bit odd, especially regarding syncing to external signals and the sample & hold module.
Index
00:00 Intro
01:46 Envelope gate & trigger
04:21 Sync s&h to an external clock
05:59 Sync elec switch to an external clock
09:48 Sync internal clock to an external clock
11:10 Sync LFO to an external clock
12:10 LFO vs s&h chaos hack
13:14 Philosophy & sharing with Patreons
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Note events can trigger the S+H if you run gate out into sync in. Works great for arpeggios!
Cheers!
I'm very impressed with your skills and 2600 knowledge. Very cool! I hope to see more videos from you. God bless 🙌 🙏 Thank you for posting
Holy Cow, this gate trigger quirk has been bugging me for ages ! Thank you for sharing a way around it !
Cool video! A few things to mention. If you want to trigger the envelopes with a gate you can just go into the jack below switch that's normalled to S/H clock. As for the tip about effecting the lfo rate, as far as I know you are only effecting the behaviour of the LED on the slider of the lfo. If you listen to the lfo output while "modulating" it through the square output you will hear the lfo is working as normal, on my unit at least. I will retest this and make sure but I'm pretty sure the only way to influence the LFO is with midi notes resetting it when the trig mode switch is in the down position. There are a couple other uncommon patching techniques you could have included in this video such as using the preamp to make a feedback oscillator/lfo and modulating the oscillator waveshape by using the saw outputs as inputs.
A well spotted regarding the LFO, I suppose I finished my discovery session a bit early. I had no idea about using the saw outputs as inputs. I dont think I have ever had any equipment as full of odd features and hidden things as thisone
@@TheFellowPassenger Semi modulars are pretty weird. Most modern synths have heavily buffered outputs but on the 2600 there is less buffering. The saw output works as an input because they are saw-core oscillators. All other waveforms are derived from the saw so if you modulate the saws waveshape this way all waveforms are effected. Another trick with the half patched cable is getting access to whatever signal is normalled to a jack, so using inputs as outputs. I have a feeling there are a few tricks on this thing that have yet to be discovered but I've been focusing on my other synths at the moment.
Just discovered U -Very Enlightening Video! I'm just getting started w/the 2600 & would very MUCH LUV 2C Ur 'Getting Started' videos in future!😉 Cheers!
Great tips! I had come across these limitations before.I’ll have to try these techniques out. More arp 2600 videos please! Subscribed!
Love this, thank you for the inspiration!
I made a whole video about syncing the switch to an external clock last year. Kind of silly to put a cable in halfway, but surprisingly faithful to the original model.
unfortunately it doesn't work with mine somehow
Great a/b switch hack!!
Having to use both gate and trigger is how Moog modular works. So most likely this is by design. Search for V-trig and S-trig.
Voltage trigger and Short- or Switching trigger....S trig is used by for example the Korg MS20 and Hz/V instead of V/oct.....Thise can be set in Arturia's MCC for both the BSP and Keystep.....
Just use the S/H Clock input, works fine
Oh, Behringer. Why didn’t you add a jack for externally clocking the switch? Sure, it was an odd limitation in the original ARP 2600, but this was a no-brainer improvement that could have greatly expanded the utility of the switch.
I can get only agree
I was hoping to hear sound examples of each hack
Having to use both the trig and gate is normal. The original arp 2600’s were the same way.
Can this be used in some beneficial way? Odd that the Behringer support team stated otherwise. Never come across any other equipment where both a trigger and a gate is required at the same time
@@TheFellowPassenger you have to keep in mind it’s a clone of a 50 year old synth, and it was made with using specific pieces of hardware of the time. the behringer is a clone. Here is some information on how it works exactly.
djjondent.blogspot.com/2023/06/arp-2600-trigger-and-gate-inputs.html?m=1
@@TheFellowPassenger djjondent.blogspot.com/2023/06/arp-2600-trigger-and-gate-inputs.html?m=1
Can use separate trig source and gate source
0:25 A bit confusing, when you use "to" and "from" for the same purpose...."Syncing to"
is something different than "Syncing from".
I can trigger my grey meanie just from the gate input, using a Behringer Swing. So I guess it is a fault in yours??
Interesting, will investigate
excellent video, thanks for doing this! your envelope gate & trigger section is not correct though. it is a confusing wiring on that synth, but the "issue" is somewhere else. in your video your vca is only controlled by the adsr, not the ad. that's why you don't hear anything when putting anything into the gate in. the ad section is working, just not routed to the vca. the trigger input, however, is more relevant to the adsr section, and the positioning at the panel makes it confusing. if you plug a gate into the gate input of the adsr, you will still hear nothing. you also need to send a gate to the trigger input at the ad section. it is absolutely possible to trigger both envelope sections externally, and independently, but not the way you demonstrated.
Seems like he doesn't really have a basic understanding of how the Behringer 2600 works. Many people don't seem to grasp the vca/adsr/ad interface.
Please don't misuse the word "Hack" its awful. Anyway, if you need more voltage to trigger your envelopes, why not use the voltage processor?
“Hack” can also mean a creative improvised solution to a problem, or a tip for improving something, e.g. “life hack”.