The Messed Up Origins of KRATOS: The God of Strength vs the Ghost of Sparta

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
  • Head to squarespace.com/jonsolo to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code JONSOLO! Thanks to Squarespace for sponsoring this episode!
    » 👕 Shop the Underworld Overlords Drop! 👉 meremortals.store
    ► Messed Up Origins™ Socials!
    » TikTok: / messeduporigins
    » Instagram: / messeduporigins
    » Facebook Fan Page: / therealjonsolo
    » Twitter: / messeduporigins
    ▼ Podcast Links! ▼
    » Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
    » Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/0zC1NxC...
    » Google Podcasts: www.google.com/podcasts?feed=...
    » Amazon Music: music.amazon.com/podcasts/e2a...
    » Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/jon-...
    » iHeartRadio: iheart.com/podcast/99117988/
    ▼ Timestamps ▼
    » 0:00 - Who is Kratos?
    » 0:52 - The Ghost of Sparta
    » 4:58 - Kratos in Myth
    » 12:43 - Tragic Heroes
    ► Want more?
    » ALL Messed Up Origins: bit.ly/MessedUpOrigins
    » Norse Mythology: bit.ly/NorseMythologyExplained
    » ALL Mythology Explained: bit.ly/MythologyExplained
    » Featured Folklore (the animated series!): bit.ly/featuredfolklore
    » Disney Explained: bit.ly/DisneyExplained
    » Folklore Explained: bit.ly/FablesExplained
    » Astrology: bit.ly/AstrologyExplained
    » Messed Up Murders: bit.ly/MurderPlaylist
    ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    ► Social Media:
    » Twitter: / jonsolo
    » Instagram: / jonsolo
    » Official Subreddit: / jonsolo
    ► Join the Official Channel Discord:
    » / jonsolo
    ► Send Fan Mail to:
    » SoloFamMail@gmail.com
    ► Business:
    » biz@MessedUpOrigins.com (Business Inquiries ONLY)
    ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    ▼ Credits ▼
    » Written & Directed by Jon Solo
    ▼ Art Sources ▼
    » Character Artist Sara Rodriguez: / sarosaes
    ▼ Resources ▼
    » my favorites: messeduporigins.com/books
    » www.theoi.com/Daimon/Kratos.html
    #kratos #godofwar #greekmythology

КОМЕНТАРІ • 283

  • @JonSolo
    @JonSolo  Місяць тому +98

    How much did you know about the original Kratos? Should I cover the origins of the God of War games? Let me know in a comment! And thanks for watching :)
    🇬🇷 Join me on the Messed Up Origins Field Trip to GREECE! www.trovatrip.com/trip/europe/greece/greece-with-jon-scudieri-sep-2024 🇬🇷
    » Trova Trip Q & A: ua-cam.com/video/FZgl6DSoKkI/v-deo.html

    • @nayyarrashid4661
      @nayyarrashid4661 Місяць тому +10

      Yes cover it.

    • @Eddieavina123
      @Eddieavina123 Місяць тому +6

      Yes

    • @tenebrousoul9368
      @tenebrousoul9368 Місяць тому +5

      Yes please

    • @remybomb4690
      @remybomb4690 Місяць тому +6

      Yes please ❤

    • @caitlynbonfield1389
      @caitlynbonfield1389 Місяць тому +6

      please cover the games god of war is my childhood and most favourite game and I'd love to hear more about the myths I missed while deep diving myself 😂😅

  • @Epsilon-01
    @Epsilon-01 Місяць тому +131

    "Yes, I am equating Jim Carry to a Greek God, and no, I don’t think that's overreaching."
    Of course not. He's an avatar of Thalia, the muse of comedy(though, I will admit, I don't know if it's the comedy I'm referring to).

  • @kingashura428
    @kingashura428 Місяць тому +63

    Actually, there’s something else to add to his origin if you guys remember the myth about Athena‘s birth, it said that if Zeus had a son, he would also destroy Olympus

    • @millerjames908
      @millerjames908 27 днів тому

      Wait, I thought only if Zeus and Metis had son? Isn't it why he turned her into water and drank her?

    • @andyquinn3996
      @andyquinn3996 25 днів тому

      ​@@millerjames908 there are some myths where Zeus slept with Persofone by disguising himself as Hades, and she gave birth to a son, his name is zagreus.

    • @AAAAHHHHhhH
      @AAAAHHHHhhH 18 днів тому +2

      ​@@millerjames908It was Metis but like the comment said Persephone birthed Zagreus who according to his myth was supposed to inherit the throne before he got ripped apart. Also there was Thetis, the mother of Achilles who was prophesised to give birth to a son who would be greater than his father. There are a lot of deities who are prophesised to give birth to children greater than their parents huh 😅

  • @TheDeinonychus
    @TheDeinonychus Місяць тому +274

    Someone should link this video to Jim Carrey and see what he thinks.

    • @N0one000
      @N0one000 Місяць тому +8

      Y Jim Carrey?

    • @lakerballer0058
      @lakerballer0058 Місяць тому +13

      @@N0one000he’s gonna play Kratos in the live action Prime show

    • @N0one000
      @N0one000 Місяць тому +8

      @@lakerballer0058 no fuckin way I had no idea he was playing him I already knew about the show i just didn’t know who’s gonna play kratos but I love Jim Carrey so that’s awesome

    • @caseybrowning9770
      @caseybrowning9770 Місяць тому +6

      This for sure has to get to Jim Carrey

    • @sakurakitsunestar
      @sakurakitsunestar Місяць тому +1

      I mean he's retired so he has to time to watch the video

  • @greuce.
    @greuce. Місяць тому +66

    “Boy…”

  • @bigdexmedia5233
    @bigdexmedia5233 Місяць тому +26

    I always thought that Kratos was an “original” character being made specifically for fictional purposes. Never knew there was an actual inspiration for the character.

    • @dgrmn12345
      @dgrmn12345 29 днів тому +8

      Kratos in the game was an original character when the studio first made it and is not inspired by the myth in any way.
      It was just only later on did they discover that there was Kratos, the god. A happy coincidence, as this video puts it.

    • @motabaiofficial7776
      @motabaiofficial7776 18 днів тому +1

      I wish we could have seen him fight gods in the Elder Scrolls universe, even tho that’s a whole different pantheon and universe

    • @bigdexmedia5233
      @bigdexmedia5233 18 днів тому

      @@dgrmn12345 indeed

  • @crimsonvoid1595
    @crimsonvoid1595 Місяць тому +53

    This was interesting. Please do Messed up origins for the God of War games.

  • @user-zf2ru4eq4w
    @user-zf2ru4eq4w Місяць тому +36

    What I always thought was interesting about the games is that the earlier games Kratos was on a path to change the fate of things to come. Then he has a child who is Atreus, and he came to terms with the idea that fate is not set in stone; only for his son to repeat what Kratos originally set out to prevent in the God of war games 1 through 3. But talking about the connections between Kratos and the mythology that inspired the games; Kratos actually did end up meeting other characters from Greek and Roman mythology like Hercules, and Icarus.

    • @WaySicko
      @WaySicko 2 дні тому +1

      He had other child's before Atreus tho

  • @brockpha9424
    @brockpha9424 Місяць тому +15

    "Jon-gasm" came a long way over the years 😂 congrats

  • @Wowsx2bu
    @Wowsx2bu Місяць тому +25

    I've seen your video on the Kitsune. I think it would be interesting to also do one on the Kumiho, and talk about the differences and stories. May want to also mention SCP-953 which is a Kumiho.

  • @NateSmith87
    @NateSmith87 Місяць тому +10

    This was awesome. Greek mythical philosophical era was GOATED.

  • @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ
    @Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Місяць тому +11

    In modern day Greek kratos also translates into "nation"

  • @deadspace7978
    @deadspace7978 Місяць тому +8

    I remember watching my then boyfriend playing these games when we were teens. We've loved the franchise for over 12 years! Thanks for the awesome video!

  • @kakikaringolad
    @kakikaringolad Місяць тому +8

    I was waiting for this. I really wanted to know the story about kratos. I've been trying to find the information myself but didn't understand a lot of it. Thank you for breaking down the mythology.

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 Місяць тому +8

    Please please do the games!
    Also holy crab I did not know you knew Jim carry and for a second I thought that was an late April fools joke but you played it so straight that it was shock to me. Really cool man.
    Kratos is one of my favorite video game characters and I love the journey he has gone on in both the Greek and Norse world. And personally I both agree and disagree with what David jaffe said about the character. I mean at least he hasn’t been “butchered” as badly as some other video game characters.
    He’s still kratos be happy with that and the fact that he’s not dead.

  • @vginsprdsobepr9698
    @vginsprdsobepr9698 Місяць тому +29

    As powerful as Kratos is, I think his sister is even more powerful since Nike is the goddess of victory.

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 Місяць тому +8

      There's a reason Victory is represented by a goddess and not a god. Most eloquently summarized by this quote.
      "Girls don't compete they just show up at the finish line and bang the winner."

    • @jacopopiazzola2728
      @jacopopiazzola2728 15 днів тому +1

      @@infidelheretic923💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @shiney_wolf0000
    @shiney_wolf0000 Місяць тому +5

    Never thought that Jim Carrey would be in a episode with cratoz

  • @kadinloiseau5778
    @kadinloiseau5778 Місяць тому +4

    Thanks for the amazing videos Mr. Solo amazing work

  • @kaitlynboss3497
    @kaitlynboss3497 Місяць тому +4

    Great video as always, man.

  • @Eddieavina123
    @Eddieavina123 Місяць тому +5

    Love your video, Jon Solo, and keep up the great work you are awesome

  • @flamingsunshine
    @flamingsunshine Місяць тому

    Thank you for the amazing upload 😊

  • @jennieivins
    @jennieivins Місяць тому

    Loved the artwork! Thanks for shouting out the artist!

  • @christopherthomas8536
    @christopherthomas8536 2 дні тому

    Your research skills are impeccable Jon... I thoroughly enjoy your vids man 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @officialbrucewayne
    @officialbrucewayne 24 дні тому

    Love this episode and thanks

  • @samuelmelendez7566
    @samuelmelendez7566 Місяць тому +3

    Awesome video! I'm a huge GOW fan and seeing your channel, Kratos was an inevitably.

  • @thatdarnkitteh
    @thatdarnkitteh Місяць тому +1

    This is a great start to another series. Please do all the games origins!

  • @christianscott7912
    @christianscott7912 Місяць тому

    I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.

  • @stefhonsmith6547
    @stefhonsmith6547 Місяць тому +4

    9:04 OH YOU ARE LUCKY AND AMAZING TO GET TO DO THAT!!
    9:06 Also I agree with you on that.

  • @carlintaylor2996
    @carlintaylor2996 22 дні тому +3

    My dad played the original games back in the day going into the early days of the PlayStation 3 my oldest brother had the PSP spin offs glad this series is still going strong today the only one I've played all the way through was chains of Olympus ❤❤

  • @itsyaboisausagem9578
    @itsyaboisausagem9578 Місяць тому

    Been waiting for this. Let’s gooo…

  • @Fingledoodler
    @Fingledoodler Місяць тому +2

    This was cool to learn. Didn't know he existed in myth.
    I would love a mythology video game series. Where you explain the origins and myths in games. Even if you had to reexplain some characters you did in other videos. Could be a fun way to explain gods etc in context as they come up in games. A game that comes to mind is rise of the argonauts and god of war as you mentioned to do. I would definitely watch something like that

  • @connorbowe8156
    @connorbowe8156 Місяць тому +1

    A episode for each game would be fire

  • @debbralehrman5957
    @debbralehrman5957 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Jon 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @FusionKush
    @FusionKush Місяць тому

    Im down for some more Kratos videos. Taking a deep dive in every game would be lit! 💯🔥

  • @RayGamingChannel10
    @RayGamingChannel10 Місяць тому

    Was wondering when you would do this big fan thanks for feeding my mythology hunger can’t wait for more Egyptian mythology also

  • @jak852971
    @jak852971 Місяць тому +1

    Amazing video sir! I'm a huge fan of the games and Greek myth but I don't recall hearing of cratos the actual god

  • @LuizFelipe-sp9dg
    @LuizFelipe-sp9dg 25 днів тому +2

    It's more like they started Kratos design based on D&D Barbarian class.
    Barbarian class really matches Kratos, specially when in berserker mode.
    They could implement a "Animal Form" to make a Barbarian that can take on an army

  • @TheRawhead66
    @TheRawhead66 Місяць тому +1

    A messed up origin of all gow games woulf be crazy and now i wan't to see such an series😅

  • @DescryMirare
    @DescryMirare Місяць тому +3

    Yes do all the games

  • @carlintaylor3229
    @carlintaylor3229 Місяць тому

    One of the last greatest playstation mascots from the ps2 days going into the playstation 3 day's ❤❤ glad he got a reboot that's right up there with the original version

  • @kingbatzillareviews8473
    @kingbatzillareviews8473 Місяць тому

    This video is awesome!
    I would love to see the origins of the God of War games.

  • @i.e6891
    @i.e6891 Місяць тому +1

    God of war was one of my favorite games. Great video 😍

  • @kevin4gwen
    @kevin4gwen Місяць тому

    All this was new to me.I'm pleasantly surprised, so I'd really like to hear a lot more of the niche stuff in mythology sense I know so much

  • @jamimuhammad3699
    @jamimuhammad3699 27 днів тому +1

    I’m so glad you did this because I did not know it was a another cratos XD KRATOS!!!!!!- “Zeus your son has come”.

  • @Toaster81
    @Toaster81 Місяць тому

    I knew about the lore prior to the games, & have always loved anything to do with Greek myth. One of my pets that I rescued, his name is Kratos. I found him in a trash can on a construction site I was working on in the middle of summer here in Las Vegas. He was about a week old at the time. So for him to have survived that I figured the name was fitting. And it's not a scar but he was born with one of his eyes blind/dead. Strong doesn't even begin to describe my little buddy. He's 12 now & still runs around like he's 1. Anyway would love to see you do a full GOW series of videos

  • @Smiththeinspiringanimator
    @Smiththeinspiringanimator Місяць тому

    Awesome!

  • @janaereed4151
    @janaereed4151 Місяць тому

    jon dont say if we want..,you know we want that sir get to it! thxs❤

  • @TheNutCaseNetwork
    @TheNutCaseNetwork Місяць тому

    Definitely want to hear about the origins of the God of War games 🙌🏽

  • @remylebeau3089
    @remylebeau3089 Місяць тому

    Mr. Solo plz break down the myths throughout the games as well. Please and thank you.

  • @kimbradshaw3878
    @kimbradshaw3878 Місяць тому

    Yes I would like to here about all the games individually 😊

  • @antonydrossos5719
    @antonydrossos5719 14 днів тому

    I actually used the GoW games as a reference for teaching my daughter about our Greek roots (though my Baba is just a phone call away), like, “No; the Colossus of Rhodoss did not come to life and get destroyed by an angry little Spartan. It collapsed when Santorini’s volcano, Thera, exploded.”

  • @Simubaya
    @Simubaya Місяць тому

    I would love a series on the God of War games. Honestly, I'm surprised you haven't done it yet. I'm down if you are

  • @psgamer-0199
    @psgamer-0199 19 днів тому

    God of War is one of the first PlayStation franchises I became a fan of when I got the PS2. And to this day I still play all the 6 Greek era GoW games. I love them and Kratos is a terrific character. One of my favorite PlayStation characters of all time.
    While I have GoW 2018 in its sealed box, I never got to play it because I never got a PS4 (I hate being broke) I hope someday I can play the Norse era games. But I'm not complaining because the Greek era games are too epic tbh.
    Please, I hope you get to do the origin videos on each game🙏🙏🙏
    This one's already🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @imtrnr733
    @imtrnr733 Місяць тому

    Ur would be really cool if you could do a video on each god of war game !

  • @ehellsword2
    @ehellsword2 Місяць тому

    I knew he was a god but never found any background on him before. Thanks!

  • @christophermuniz9253
    @christophermuniz9253 Місяць тому

    Yes. Do it. Do it please

  • @909mcronald
    @909mcronald Місяць тому +3

    Can you do the mess up story of sun wukong journey to the west

  • @dmnapier7
    @dmnapier7 Місяць тому +1

    I knew there was a reason i liked you from the start. That Jim carrey story just proves it was meant to be

  • @choshow86
    @choshow86 Місяць тому +1

    Kratos is pretty much just Heracles just more anger than despair

  • @Toddbergstrom
    @Toddbergstrom Місяць тому

    Make that video that takes hours! Or a compilation I listen to that kind of stuff at work

  • @maytalacedo20
    @maytalacedo20 Місяць тому

    that's cool you got to be with Jim carry as a kid must been a cool experience.

  • @cousinlsytherin
    @cousinlsytherin Місяць тому +1

    @JonSolo if you do God of war games don't forget one was on SPS hand system.

  • @MrEnd-ge6wy
    @MrEnd-ge6wy 25 днів тому

    Definitely cover the origins of god of war please

  • @DavidS.Pumpkin
    @DavidS.Pumpkin Місяць тому

    Let's go!

  • @amberly0317
    @amberly0317 Місяць тому

    Super cool!! I knew none of this

  • @umo3418
    @umo3418 Місяць тому +1

    Didn’t know there were so many God Of War Games

  • @williamloy3140
    @williamloy3140 Місяць тому

    I did know about Cratos but not a whole lot and yes please on the games and also more celtic mythology

  • @greenhollyknight4846
    @greenhollyknight4846 Місяць тому +1

    Never knew Kratos was a real God before this. Anymore obscure Gods I should know about. Greek Myths is my favorite but I also enjoy learning about the others around the world. I'll let you know if I stumble across any when I look at random things.

  • @weatherfordeaglessports449
    @weatherfordeaglessports449 Місяць тому

    Hey jon im just wondering if im able to go on the greece trip if im 19

  • @jennifergiacobbi8320
    @jennifergiacobbi8320 Місяць тому

    Jon solo I love your content and you are so funny Thankyou for the videos I tried to follow you on Facebook but couldn’t find you
    Jenn

  • @WhiteLongSword7
    @WhiteLongSword7 Місяць тому +5

    I never played the Norse God of War games. It just doesnt have the same appeal as the Greek era.

    • @RavenSpirit13
      @RavenSpirit13 27 днів тому

      Your missing out they are absolutely amazing.

  • @MotherCola
    @MotherCola 20 днів тому

    I do wanna see a origins of thr god of war games so i hope you make those sometime soon😊

  • @mecahhannah
    @mecahhannah Місяць тому

    Awesome as always thanks ❤

  • @larryragland887
    @larryragland887 Місяць тому

    You definitely should cover the god of war games

  • @deathlasha
    @deathlasha 29 днів тому

    😊 yes please do a full series of the God of war

  • @MotherCola
    @MotherCola 20 днів тому

    Sp im new to the god of war video game series so when i saw kratos killed greek gods who were said to be immortal and hard to kill and went from greek to norse nythology with ragnarok being around odin and ragnarok so im so happy you made this video. But im still kinda mad they didnt give jormangander more screen time

  • @tommiehill7662
    @tommiehill7662 Місяць тому

    I had an idea about the difference between Cratos the Greek god of strength & Kratos the ghost of Sparta! Thanks for making the video for people that didn't know

  • @Bluepoppy86
    @Bluepoppy86 Місяць тому +1

    I’m gonna need a story time about Jim Carrey

  • @Josh_Hammond
    @Josh_Hammond Місяць тому

    I would like to see you cover the Greek god of war games 😅😁

  • @pyronable
    @pyronable Місяць тому

    See u in History has a video on this topic

  • @cameronbrown3700
    @cameronbrown3700 Місяць тому +1

    I know that the mythical Cratos’s isn’t exactly like the video game Kratos we know in terms of story & characterization, but who knew that both are practically identical when it comes to their individual personalities.

  • @Jforrester90
    @Jforrester90 Місяць тому

    You should do a origins of the games. Point out all the Greek references

  • @zachreads
    @zachreads 29 днів тому

    Fun fact Kratos and his brother Demos are also the root word for democracy, originally spelled demokratia it means power of the people. Languages like Finnish still spell it with a k aswell.

  • @haydenyuy7060
    @haydenyuy7060 Місяць тому

    I would love to see a God of War series. I'd like to see other games covered like Enslaved: Odyssey to the West and more.

  • @quesnel13
    @quesnel13 Місяць тому

    I'd have my bag packed asap.

  • @emmasheehan7923
    @emmasheehan7923 Місяць тому

    You should do a video on the origins of The Goose Girl. It's an interesting fairy take that most people don't know. Shannon Hale wrote a very beautiful retelling

  • @lisawalton4143
    @lisawalton4143 Місяць тому +1

    Yes I've played the old game and love The God of War cause I never knew what happen to him and his family so that be cool but take your time Jon 👌😇

  • @sammcfarlane2494
    @sammcfarlane2494 Місяць тому

    Can you do a remastered video the Greek,Norse and Egyptian creation videos with the same animation as this, please?

  • @TrivonikaQuintrellDemary
    @TrivonikaQuintrellDemary Місяць тому

    I. Always wanted to know if these Greek gods were real or a myth. I been watching you for years now 😊 can you talk about the goddess orgin for sailor moon

  • @antalex_II
    @antalex_II Місяць тому

    “Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.” - Jon 💯🔥

  • @allyssaj1488
    @allyssaj1488 Місяць тому +2

    Yes please...we need the origins to gow

  • @ComfortZoneComic
    @ComfortZoneComic 4 дні тому

    That was cool 😎

  • @Jonwikk206
    @Jonwikk206 29 днів тому

    Bait and switch!

  • @Davewonder31
    @Davewonder31 Місяць тому

    Yes please I’m begging you lol cover the myth of the god of war games

  • @patrickpeyton7433
    @patrickpeyton7433 Місяць тому

    Yeah brother I wanna see the origins of every god of war game

  • @dan10688
    @dan10688 Місяць тому

    More GoW please

  • @howlingwolffang2221
    @howlingwolffang2221 Місяць тому +1

    Small flex, met one of the biggest men in comedic entertainment😂😂😂😂

  • @antonydrossos5719
    @antonydrossos5719 14 днів тому

    I do remember hearing that in the mythos, Zeus was given a prophecy that if he were to have a son with one of his sisters (gawds, amIright?), that son would eventually overthrow him like he did to Kronos. I need to find my own copy of Hesiod’s Theogeny

  • @tasha8640
    @tasha8640 Місяць тому +1

    The gods do shady stuff to women
    The goddesses "I'm going to punish home girl" 😭🤦🏾‍♀️

  • @charlierodgers5500
    @charlierodgers5500 Місяць тому

    Yeah do the games next.