Hey Randy it is Kelly Daniels! My teeth feel incredible and you are an absolute master at your craft! See you Oct. 28th in Utah! I cannot wait for my finals! **Update: 7 weeks post finals and WOW MY TEETH ARE SO PERFECT. I am so happy that I chose Randy for this incredibly important surgery.
I was at Utah Smile Clinic, met doctor Roberts, had scans done, did lots of research, and will be going back to have the 3 on 6 done by doctor Roberts.
Randy did my surgery in July 2024. I fly back to Utah in late October. My temporary teeth are amazing in and of itself, so I cannot wait to get my finals next month. Randy is the best of the best. We LOVED him and this method is amazing. He is the master of the technique. He did the 4on8 for me. More teeth!
I’ve seen this exact same blog from this dentist in London and, after researching everything to the nth degree, agree with Dr. Robert’s approach totally. In fact, in 2 weeks I’m going to see him to get a single implant for a molar extraction to align with a future 3-on-6 in a few years. Honestly, I can’t see chipping away gum tissue and bone to replace it with fake gums/bone. The thought of going in annually to clean the all-on-4s turns me off. If you ask me, the 3-on-6 is the way to go!
London dentists all seem to want to do All on 4 presumably its fast and profitable. Slicing away a lot of healthy bone seems to me an absolute disaster. How many people who have All on 4 understand what is involved? I suspect few.
Let’s get together with whom ever could come to Utah that has had this 3on6 and make a live video of the actual patients and show the whole world what our teeth look like after having this amazing surgery. This procedure is by far the best thing a person could do if they are a candidate. I had surgery march 26 2024 and received my finals July 7 2024 and when I say my teeth fill real I mean it. No gaps health gums health mouth and 💯% fill confidence with my smile and I don’t have to worry about what my teeth look like now. Thank you smile clinic Utah for giving me my life back and my smile. Thank you DR Randy Roberts for thinking about your patients and going above to come up with something else to make patients look and fill amazing again. We need more DR in this world that care about there patients like you do and all the amazing DR you and your team has developed over the last decade. If you need my beautiful smile for anything just let me know and I will be there. Thank you again!
I'm down to give a testimonial, absolutely. My teeth were destroyed due to having a disability since childhood. I had to take medication three times a day for 30 years to stay alive. That medication ruined my mouth. I really want to get the message out there to other disabled people that this procedure is an option.
I’ve been a patient patient since 2017 and they’re absolutely awesome. I highly recommend them. I highly recommend Dr Roberts his staff is absolutely the best.
Thank you Dr. Roberts. Good explanation(s). I went to the 'Dutch dentist university' called ACTA and tried to convince them how important it is for patients to be able to have a choice to preserve their own gums and not have a (more or less) bulky arch in their mouth. Personally I don't want that and also I would not like food getting stuck between that arch and the implants (giving more risks of infection). Unfortunately the ACTA had no interest at all. Leaving patients, also patients who already spend a whole lot of money keeping teeth 'healthy' (with root-canals and crowns for instance, at the time not knowing about the book "The Root Canal cover up' by Weston Price, and lot of them by root-canal-treated-roots that break inside the jaw), only with choices they don't want. As I mentioned not only not as for the aesthetic, but also not providing teeth that are feeling somewhat like natural teeth. Thank you for the option 3on6 (and 4on8) for around 90% of the patients. I hope to be one of them somewhere in the spring/summer of 2025 (I will contact your office).
Great video doc! I’m so so glad that you addressed this video. I seen the video a few years ago and I know a lot of other patients that have as well and have had questions! Thank you! You are amazing and I’m proud to be one of your patients. ❤
Well, an exciting video, I will say; in my head, and I am not a doctor, I can understand from the mechanical point of view one of the aspects of the 3o6 I can imagine that Ao4 will not distribute the loads to the bone in the same way, however having implants my self (and I'm not defending one technique or the other) as an engineer I think that every problem is different, every person is different. We all have to look at the situation from various angles and perspectives to provide the most cost-effective solution and the solution that will last according to our scenario. Cleaning it is always a critical aspect, we can always get food between the gums and the teeth (even our natural teeth), that is why we have to clean it, that is why periodontitis exist, that is why a lot of bad things happen to us as a result, maybe from cleaning. So, in my ignorance of all the clinical aspects (I'm not a doctor, as I said), finding a solution to humankind that can guarantee that our implants last for as long as we want = Forever! is the way forward; there are financial aspects of this, of course, but this is what we want. We want the implants to last, we do not want to go again to surgery, we want the best solution. These are my 2 cents, if any procedure 3o6 or Ao4 or 75 in 78 can guarantee people the possibility to eat with no pain (that was my case), the chance to smile (I could not smile appropriately since I was 14 years old now Im 54), can guarantee that the procedure that we embrace as patients will last, then we are in the right path to the future bring humanity the final solution to a problem that a lot of people around the world currently have. Thank you, Doctors. To all of you, I sincerely appreciate your dedicated work in helping people; it is an honourable profession!
That's what Dr. Robert did for me. I am thrilled with the outcome. I also had one bridge placed on my lower rear jaw where teeth had been missing for decades. I wasn't sure he'd be able to do it since the jaw bone atrophied and there was significant bone loss. After having sent my panoramic images to Dr.Roberts, it was determined that they could do the 3 on 6. On my initial visit, Dr.Roberts did the surgery for my upper arch and bone grafting on the lower area. I was very happy with the temporaries. However, i had to wait for my bone grafting to take before getting that bridge. My finals and the lower bridge were placed in August, and I couldn't be happier. I flew to Utah from Chicago and took advantage of the service of hiring a helper during my stay. She was phenomenal. She picked me up and dropped me at the airport, took me back to the hotel after the surgery, and took me shopping. That service wasn't needed when I returned for my finals. Overall, I'm relieved that I didn't opt for the all on 4.
Dr. Randy Roberts, it appears that you have had some work done at least on your upper arch . Was curious if those are temporary? Your office has truly changed the lives of many great patients! Hope to make it out this year and get my smile back!
I went to gurrs surgery the front of house lack of hospitality put me off no one greeted me asked my name I sat for 15minutes no one acknowledged me. So I left not only that they originally sent me to wrong clinic costing a whole day's travel and 100£ in taxis. And not seeing anyone. 😕
you real lucky that you left, i did not and i regreat so much ! he pulled my teeth , put zigomatic implants and my life changed so much. I am devasted.. gurs clinic is all about money making , noting else ! i am in pain every single day , want to go to hospital and have those implants removed .. i give him my life savings and it distroyed my life
@@bensonandagaAM SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS MY FRIEND😔MAYBE IF YOU COULD GO AND SEE THIS DR....HOPEFULLY YOU CAN AFFORD IT🤔CALL AND TALK TO THEM☎️💗TAKE CARE AND FEEL BETTER SOON💗LOVE AND BIG HUGS TO YOU!💗
I’ve watched many videos with other doctors critiquing. One team actually said 3on6 was more difficult so they didn’t prefer to do them. Another doctor didn’t know how to do this, so they couldn’t offer and they just didn’t think it was a great idea..
I’m sure the people who said that are selling all on fours. I’m a patient of Dr. Roberts and you’re absolutely wrong. You couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Dr. Roberts I have watched this doctors video he is a nice guy very calm talking, but I decided on the 3 0n 6 and have done it in the New York office with Dr. Herrera and I for one are very satisfied with this system in my mouth. Maybe he wants to join your group of 3 on 6 provider,s . My thing is I did not want my mouth hacked apart and bone and gums cut out and could never come back, your system is the best out on the market I must say.
@@wirenut003 I believe Dr. Herrera was trained by Dr. Roberts and his team in Utah. How much more (or Less) did it cost to have it done per arch in New York all in. ( bone graphs Extractions,anesthesia,etc) Dr Roberts has done hundreds if not thousands of them, I assume Dr Herrera is relatively new at this.
@@PeterGuzzardo Hi Pete to tell you I never contacted the office in Utah, went to Dr Herrera and had my consultation and did the procedure. The price would probably would be less expensive in Utah, but did not want to travel and also if I needed some thing my doctor would be in New York for me to go to.
My back molars are crowned and not a problem. It's the 8 and maybe 10 front visible teeth that are broken and I have a failing bridge. What is the solution? I have a low lip line, not much gum shows when I smile. Thank you for your video.
So glad you responded to this. I was disappointed listening to his explanation of the 3on 6 - can confuse A lot of people …. What?! No before and afters😂😂!? There is no removable denture ! Ahhhh ! Please let me do a video supporting the work of your office !!
Interesting post. What must be remembered, is that the initial cost of these teeth do not see a patient through for the rest of their lives. There is tremendous shifting (natural biological changes) of the human jaw as a person ages. My point being, as the years go by, there will have to be many modifications to the arches, and of course the cost of the annual cleaning. And they can fracture !! Unless ones mouth is catastrophically bad, (60% tooth loss) I cannot stress enough, removing natural teeth has to be the last, last option. Once those teeth have gone, that bone loss is very speedy indeed.
@@HotChocolate-v5c Actually, no. The implant acts as the natural root and the bone absolutely does not recede. The Dr. will tell you that. I've had 1 implant in the front, just left of the front tooth for over 20 years and the gum & bone is still perfect. 👍
I recommend trying to keep your teeth so long as they aren’t destroying your bone. If your periodontal disease starts to get more out of control then yes, pull them, but if it is only mild then probably try and save them. You can send pictures of your X-rays to Mike at our office if you would like me to take a closer look.
I am so jealous 😢wish I could afford them I wish they could make them affordable here in south Africa I wish there was a 3 on six here in south Africa and could help the people that can't afford them the benefit of getting them too heartbreaking too see people with such amazing smile and u can only wear dentures I hate dentures the worst thing in the world I pray to God that I can have a smile like that one day 😢 I live on a government grant if I could get them it will be a dream come true I don't even have money to come to you people I live in south Africa Cape town I am a disabled person my dream is to be able too ea probably and not the constant pain of dentures hating all the time and food getting stuck on the all the time u eat it will be a miracle to have a smile like that and life changing God please answer my prayers AMEN 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@MsKarenmillenwrong !!!! I know them personally and they are one of the best groups of people that I have ever encountered. They are absolutely wonderful staff. And Dr Roberts is a wonderful man and Dentist.
Doc Roberts! I ABSOLUTELY LUUUUUVE THIS GUY!! WHY??! BECAUSE HE'S THE REASON I FOUND "YOU"!!! 🎉 He's done you a GREAT service! ANYONE with slight intelligence can realize that what he's saying is, well.. and INSULT to anyone's intelligence! I'm not medical, no need. What you're doing (AND I TELL HIM/THEM) ... HAS NO COMPETITION AND PLEEEESE CHALLENGE ME! NOT EVEN YOU, JUST ME! 😂 NO REPLY! I have no idea why they haven't blocked me yet. Gluttonous punishment I guess. I was unfortunately injured by an E.N.T. Dr. in which he tore the sheath from a nerve during an endoscopy. I can't begin to tell you. BUT I made it through but the UNBEARABLE sinus/ whole body infection caused what tastes like acid to escape through the gums, destroying my BEAUTIFUL & I MEAN BEAUTIFUL TEETH! 😡 NO ONE AND I MEAN NO 1 WILL TOUCH ME BUT "YOU"! Not looking forward to a cross country trip but that's the amount of belief & respect I have for you. ❤❤❤ NOOOOOOO COMPETITION DOC.
Hey Randy it is Kelly Daniels! My teeth feel incredible and you are an absolute master at your craft! See you Oct. 28th in Utah! I cannot wait for my finals! **Update: 7 weeks post finals and WOW MY TEETH ARE SO PERFECT. I am so happy that I chose Randy for this incredibly important surgery.
I was at Utah Smile Clinic, met doctor Roberts, had scans done, did lots of research, and will be going back to have the 3 on 6 done by doctor Roberts.
🎉CONGRATS!!! I'm asap. VERY HAPPY FOR YOU!!! ❤
Can I ask you what they estimated? I want to have my top arch done
@@wazzup1316 It’s different for every case; I can tell you, all things being equal, it was reasonable and less than the all on 4 I was quoted in NYC.
@@wazzup1316it's on the site 25,000 up depending on you situation
Randy did my surgery in July 2024. I fly back to Utah in late October. My temporary teeth are amazing in and of itself, so I cannot wait to get my finals next month. Randy is the best of the best. We LOVED him and this method is amazing. He is the master of the technique. He did the 4on8 for me. More teeth!
Thanks for responding to this dr.roberts!! You da man
I’ve seen this exact same blog from this dentist in London and, after researching everything to the nth degree, agree with Dr. Robert’s approach totally. In fact, in 2 weeks I’m going to see him to get a single implant for a molar extraction to align with a future 3-on-6 in a few years. Honestly, I can’t see chipping away gum tissue and bone to replace it with fake gums/bone. The thought of going in annually to clean the all-on-4s turns me off. If you ask me, the 3-on-6 is the way to go!
That 👆
London dentists all seem to want to do All on 4 presumably its fast and profitable. Slicing away a lot of healthy bone seems to me an absolute disaster. How many people who have All on 4 understand what is involved? I suspect few.
@@MikeNewland exactly
Let’s get together with whom ever could come to Utah that has had this 3on6 and make a live video of the actual patients and show the whole world what our teeth look like after having this amazing surgery. This procedure is by far the best thing a person could do if they are a candidate. I had surgery march 26 2024 and received my finals July 7 2024 and when I say my teeth fill real I mean it. No gaps health gums health mouth and 💯% fill confidence with my smile and I don’t have to worry about what my teeth look like now. Thank you smile clinic Utah for giving me my life back and my smile. Thank you DR Randy Roberts for thinking about your patients and going above to come up with something else to make patients look and fill amazing again. We need more DR in this world that care about there patients like you do and all the amazing DR you and your team has developed over the last decade. If you need my beautiful smile for anything just let me know and I will be there. Thank you again!
I'm down to give a testimonial, absolutely. My teeth were destroyed due to having a disability since childhood. I had to take medication three times a day for 30 years to stay alive. That medication ruined my mouth. I really want to get the message out there to other disabled people that this procedure is an option.
I’ve been a patient patient since 2017 and they’re absolutely awesome. I highly recommend them. I highly recommend Dr Roberts his staff is absolutely the best.
Thank you Dr. Roberts. Good explanation(s). I went to the 'Dutch dentist university' called ACTA and tried to convince them how important it is for patients to be able to have a choice to preserve their own gums and not have a (more or less) bulky arch in their mouth. Personally I don't want that and also I would not like food getting stuck between that arch and the implants (giving more risks of infection). Unfortunately the ACTA had no interest at all. Leaving patients, also patients who already spend a whole lot of money keeping teeth 'healthy' (with root-canals and crowns for instance, at the time not knowing about the book "The Root Canal cover up' by Weston Price, and lot of them by root-canal-treated-roots that break inside the jaw), only with choices they don't want. As I mentioned not only not as for the aesthetic, but also not providing teeth that are feeling somewhat like natural teeth.
Thank you for the option 3on6 (and 4on8) for around 90% of the patients. I hope to be one of them somewhere in the spring/summer of 2025 (I will contact your office).
Great video doc! I’m so so glad that you addressed this video. I seen the video a few years ago and I know a lot of other patients that have as well and have had questions! Thank you! You are amazing and I’m proud to be one of your patients. ❤
Thanks for responding dr roberts
26:00 he's talking about losing your gum and papilla before an all on 4 procedure, which is correct.
Ive saved for 2 years to get this done but unfortunately i don't have anyone to come with me to utah from New York just for a counsultation
Well, an exciting video, I will say; in my head, and I am not a doctor, I can understand from the mechanical point of view one of the aspects of the 3o6 I can imagine that Ao4 will not distribute the loads to the bone in the same way, however having implants my self (and I'm not defending one technique or the other) as an engineer I think that every problem is different, every person is different. We all have to look at the situation from various angles and perspectives to provide the most cost-effective solution and the solution that will last according to our scenario. Cleaning it is always a critical aspect, we can always get food between the gums and the teeth (even our natural teeth), that is why we have to clean it, that is why periodontitis exist, that is why a lot of bad things happen to us as a result, maybe from cleaning. So, in my ignorance of all the clinical aspects (I'm not a doctor, as I said), finding a solution to humankind that can guarantee that our implants last for as long as we want = Forever! is the way forward; there are financial aspects of this, of course, but this is what we want. We want the implants to last, we do not want to go again to surgery, we want the best solution. These are my 2 cents, if any procedure 3o6 or Ao4 or 75 in 78 can guarantee people the possibility to eat with no pain (that was my case), the chance to smile (I could not smile appropriately since I was 14 years old now Im 54), can guarantee that the procedure that we embrace as patients will last, then we are in the right path to the future bring humanity the final solution to a problem that a lot of people around the world currently have. Thank you, Doctors. To all of you, I sincerely appreciate your dedicated work in helping people; it is an honourable profession!
I am seriously interested in speaking to Dr Roberts i would like info on top.arch at your clinic and 3 on 6 seems great!
That's what Dr. Robert did for me. I am thrilled with the outcome. I also had one bridge placed on my lower rear jaw where teeth had been missing for decades. I wasn't sure he'd be able to do it since the jaw bone atrophied and there was significant bone loss.
After having sent my panoramic images to Dr.Roberts, it was determined that they could do the 3 on 6. On my initial visit, Dr.Roberts did the surgery for my upper arch and bone grafting on the lower area.
I was very happy with the temporaries. However, i had to wait for my bone grafting to take before getting that bridge.
My finals and the lower bridge were placed in August, and I couldn't be happier.
I flew to Utah from Chicago and took advantage of the service of hiring a helper during my stay. She was phenomenal. She picked me up and dropped me at the airport, took me back to the hotel after the surgery, and took me shopping. That service wasn't needed when I returned for my finals.
Overall, I'm relieved that I didn't opt for the all on 4.
@@elizabethmole-daren5702thank god😂
Dr. Randy Roberts, it appears that you have had some work done at least on your upper arch . Was curious if those are temporary? Your office has truly changed the lives of many great patients! Hope to make it out this year and get my smile back!
I’m his patient and those are Randy’s real teeth. Nice try.
wrong !😂
Randy i really enjoyed your video.
I went to gurrs surgery the front of house lack of hospitality put me off no one greeted me asked my name I sat for 15minutes no one acknowledged me. So I left not only that they originally sent me to wrong clinic costing a whole day's travel and 100£ in taxis. And not seeing anyone. 😕
Who is gurrs
you real lucky that you left, i did not and i regreat so much ! he pulled my teeth , put zigomatic implants and my life changed so much. I am devasted.. gurs clinic is all about money making , noting else ! i am in pain every single day , want to go to hospital and have those implants removed .. i give him my life savings and it distroyed my life
@@HotChocolate-v5c its the dentist on the video - doctor Sehmi Gurs . i went to his clinic to have all on 4 and i regret so much .
@@bensonandagaAM SO SORRY TO HEAR THIS MY FRIEND😔MAYBE IF YOU COULD GO AND SEE THIS DR....HOPEFULLY YOU CAN AFFORD IT🤔CALL AND TALK TO THEM☎️💗TAKE CARE AND FEEL BETTER SOON💗LOVE AND BIG HUGS TO YOU!💗
I’ve watched many videos with other doctors critiquing. One team actually said 3on6 was more difficult so they didn’t prefer to do them. Another doctor didn’t know how to do this, so they couldn’t offer and they just didn’t think it was a great idea..
I’m sure the people who said that are selling all on fours. I’m a patient of Dr. Roberts and you’re absolutely wrong. You couldn’t be farther from the truth.
Wrong. I am a patient and all on four are junk !! Stop making excuses when you don’t know and haven’t had either procedure. Another internet Einstein.
Dr. Roberts I have watched this doctors video he is a nice guy very calm talking, but I decided on the 3 0n 6 and have done it in the New York office with Dr. Herrera and I for one are very satisfied with this system in my mouth. Maybe he wants to join your group of 3 on 6 provider,s . My thing is I did not want my mouth hacked apart and bone and gums cut out and could never come back, your system is the best out on the market I must say.
@@wirenut003 I believe Dr. Herrera was trained by Dr. Roberts and his team in Utah. How much more (or Less) did it cost to have it done per arch in New York all in. ( bone graphs Extractions,anesthesia,etc) Dr Roberts has done hundreds if not thousands of them, I assume Dr Herrera is relatively new at this.
@@PeterGuzzardo Hi Pete to tell you I never contacted the office in Utah, went to Dr Herrera and had my consultation and did the procedure. The price would probably would be less expensive in Utah, but did not want to travel and also if I needed some thing my doctor would be in New York for me to go to.
@@PeterGuzzardohe was I met him in SLC .
What if you don't have enough bone, though?
My back molars are crowned and not a problem. It's the 8 and maybe 10 front visible teeth that are broken and I have a failing bridge. What is the solution? I have a low lip line, not much gum shows when I smile. Thank you for your video.
So glad you responded to this. I was disappointed listening to his explanation of the 3on 6 - can confuse A lot of people …. What?! No before and afters😂😂!? There is no removable denture ! Ahhhh ! Please let me do a video supporting the work of your office !!
It's on his channel her on UA-cam just put in 3 on 6😂
Does Dr Gurs only do All on 4?
no, I do it all, not just one treatment, its more focussed on the patients individual needs
Interesting post. What must be remembered, is that the initial cost of these teeth do not see a patient through for the rest of their lives. There is tremendous shifting (natural biological changes) of the human jaw as a person ages. My point being, as the years go by, there will have to be many modifications to the arches, and of course the cost of the annual cleaning. And they can fracture !! Unless ones mouth is catastrophically bad, (60% tooth loss) I cannot stress enough, removing natural teeth has to be the last, last option. Once those teeth have gone, that bone loss is very speedy indeed.
That's EXACTLY what Dr. Roberts said. Nothing removed unless absolutely nesssary.
🤔 yes because it on 6 Implants does the bone recede around the Implants
@@pattiprosperoella3244 I have had years of work with him and you’re absolutely correct. He’s the best Dentist I’ve ever ever met in my life.
@@HotChocolate-v5c
Actually, no. The implant acts as the natural root and the bone absolutely does not recede. The Dr. will tell you that. I've had 1 implant in the front, just left of the front tooth for over 20 years and the gum & bone is still perfect. 👍
Doc if see this please answer.
If you have mild perio and most of your teeth do recommend this procedure or keeping the current teeth.
I recommend trying to keep your teeth so long as they aren’t destroying your bone. If your periodontal disease starts to get more out of control then yes, pull them, but if it is only mild then probably try and save them. You can send pictures of your X-rays to Mike at our office if you would like me to take a closer look.
i wana do top and bottom i would like to see pink triangles and before after and 1 / 3 year people gum lines smiles.
can i do my rears first if i'm not ready to get my front teeth extracted? I have no molars and need to chew.
Totally, no need to pull good teeth, just replace those that are missing or that need it.
Dr Roberts love your top vernerrs ❤
You people are unbelievable. I know this Dr.
I am so jealous 😢wish I could afford them I wish they could make them affordable here in south Africa I wish there was a 3 on six here in south Africa and could help the people that can't afford them the benefit of getting them too heartbreaking too see people with such amazing smile and u can only wear dentures I hate dentures the worst thing in the world I pray to God that I can have a smile like that one day 😢 I live on a government grant if I could get them it will be a dream come true I don't even have money to come to you people I live in south Africa Cape town I am a disabled person my dream is to be able too ea probably and not the constant pain of dentures hating all the time and food getting stuck on the all the time u eat it will be a miracle to have a smile like that and life changing God please answer my prayers AMEN 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
😂😂this guy is nutts he's jealous of Dr Robert's innovation. Because I know he watched the videos of all the happy customers 😂😂
It isn't a nice clinic or staff
Dr gurrs is a hustler
@@MsKarenmillenwrong !!!! I know them personally and they are one of the best groups of people that I have ever encountered. They are absolutely wonderful staff. And Dr Roberts is a wonderful man and Dentist.
I especially love the before and after vlogs and love watching you, Dr. Roberts. I hope you continue to grow your channel like this!
Doc Roberts! I ABSOLUTELY LUUUUUVE THIS GUY!! WHY??! BECAUSE HE'S THE REASON I FOUND "YOU"!!! 🎉 He's done you a GREAT service! ANYONE with slight intelligence can realize that what he's saying is, well.. and INSULT to anyone's intelligence! I'm not medical, no need. What you're doing (AND I TELL HIM/THEM) ... HAS NO COMPETITION AND PLEEEESE CHALLENGE ME! NOT EVEN YOU, JUST ME! 😂 NO REPLY! I have no idea why they haven't blocked me yet. Gluttonous punishment I guess. I was unfortunately injured by an E.N.T. Dr. in which he tore the sheath from a nerve during an endoscopy. I can't begin to tell you. BUT I made it through but the UNBEARABLE sinus/ whole body infection caused what tastes like acid to escape through the gums, destroying my BEAUTIFUL & I MEAN BEAUTIFUL TEETH! 😡 NO ONE AND I MEAN NO 1 WILL TOUCH ME BUT "YOU"! Not looking forward to a cross country trip but that's the amount of belief & respect I have for you. ❤❤❤ NOOOOOOO COMPETITION DOC.