Discord: discord.gg/sfTtNg9G3n CORRECTION: With the Kinich team, you need to do Thoma EQ>Bennett EQ>Ororon E N1 Q>Kinich, in order to get Scroll. You need to make sure you do the N1 on Ororon after his E and before his Q
Thanks a lot for this guide, it seems very useful and detailed. I’ll use Ororon in many teams between my two accounts. I didn’t think about using him with Kinich. I won’t pull for Emilie and I didn’t enjoy playing him with Furina, so I’m glad Kinich is a good alternative. I think I’ll find doing more damage with him and firing cannons at a faster rate a lot more satisfying than having a strong off-field DPS doing damage in his team.
Man, honestly thank you soo much. The last week i was sad bc i didnt know what team to use for yoimiya or lyney and i thought i would bench them forever. I didnt know i could use ororon like that. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 😭
He should trigger Quicken with his A1 passive and proc scroll as soon as kinich applies dendro. If thats not working, you can cast Kinich's Burst at the start of the first rotation to get Dendro applied from the start
Kinich, Ororon (Deepwood), Mavuika (scrolls), Bennett might be one of Kinich's best teams considering scrolls buff can be reapplied to burning because electro disturbs the burning aura for the second rotation. You could also use fischl but ororons taunt and aoe would probably be more useful than a fischl that has to use the deepwood set.
You aren't getting scroll for Kinich if u do Thoma before Benny. U can get it if u just swap Benny and Ororon and do EN1Q tho. It's worth the Benny uptime imo. It seems your chamber 1 clear got it on the second wave for free tho.
Thank god I only had to spend 20 pulls to get this man. He'll be stuck at C0 for a while but he still feels so worthwhile at C0. I tested a lot of teams with him and had a lot of fun. My guaranteed for Citlali is still safe.
I’ll have to try that Kinich team, I’m surprised Ororon works so well there! I also wouldn’t have thought to try him over Nahida/Fischl for Cyno teams, but he feels great there. Freeing up Nahida is kinda huge, plus no multiwave issues is great Edit: looks like I can only get the scroll buff on Kinich if I burst with him to start the rotation, and I don’t have the ER to do that every time. The pyro aura from burning blocked him from getting a quicken in my testing once the rotation got going. Still a cool unexpected synergy
Hello, you should be able to get the Scroll buff on Kinich with the following rotation: Thoma EQ>Bennett EQ>Ororon E N1 Q>Kinich. As long as you make sure you do the N1 on Ororon after his E and before his Q, it should work!
@@GxGNoir Thanks for testing this, I’ll give it a try later! I was doing Ororon between Thoma and Bennett to maximize Bennett uptime, I realize now why that’s a bad idea
@@NotAName1 Kinich only takes like 13s field time (like 11.5 if you don't cast his burst) and Ororon only takes like 1.5s field time, so Kinich should still get full Bennett uptime even with Ororon used there
I’ve always believed in him, he is a treat to use. I went for C1 Lyney, getting Ororon’s C6 was the cherry on top. Great video. Btw, it’s ‘Arlecchino’ with a hard ‘k’ (pronounced like the ‘ck’ in ‘back’).
In the infographic about Kinich you assumed a single Normal Attack between each E, but I tried the team a bit with the rotation in the pinned comment and I have to do either 2 or 3 Normal Attacks with Kinich between each E. It doesn’t look like Burning can sustain Ororon’s Electro application. Another thing I noticed is that I don’t need to do N1 between Ororon’s E and Q. Thoma E Q > Bennet E Q > Ororon E Q > Kinich E N1 consistently gives me both the Pyro and the Electro buff. Do you have any advice or update about this team?
@@deadencicle yeah sometimes Kinich has to do N2E and not N1E, N1E is mainly if he gets his deadzone - easy way I think about it is if I know I'm not gonna get the deadzone I do N2E, and if I know I will get it, N1E. A bit hard to notate that in the rotation on the sheet though
Still find it hard to believe that he does close to 200k dpr with fav bow Then again i didn't level any of his talents While he certainly does more damage than kachina and presumably even fischl in multi target abyss now adays rarely has more than 1 enemy at a time
@@kuvrut7747 that team doesn't work, you don't have a healer. But if it did work, you would not build EM on Ayato, no. It's impossible to know which character will trigger electro charged damage, so you'd be building em without knowing if he's even going to be doing reaction damage to begin. Haran is always Ayatos best weapon. Finale of the Deep is a good free to play option, and lions roar is good if you can maintain the aura for the passive
Discord: discord.gg/sfTtNg9G3n
CORRECTION: With the Kinich team, you need to do Thoma EQ>Bennett EQ>Ororon E N1 Q>Kinich, in order to get Scroll. You need to make sure you do the N1 on Ororon after his E and before his Q
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Finally, Sigewinne's best team appears...
@@Freenos now if only Sigewieinne was a good character we could have something there
@@GxGNoir Atleast it's a pretty comfy overworld team that isn't annoying whenever a torch or campfire is nearby Furina's summons.
Cyno buff poggers
The first tall electro male seems to be quite the shocking character.
@@am5571 Get it? Shocking? Because electro is electricity? And electricity can shock you?
Oh brother, this guy STINKS
Very informative, keep up the good work noir !
@@astophum thanks!
Thanks for info! I like the explanations on rotations they helped alot!
No problem, happy to be of help!
Thanks for you work sir 🙏
thank you
Thanks a lot for this guide, it seems very useful and detailed. I’ll use Ororon in many teams between my two accounts.
I didn’t think about using him with Kinich. I won’t pull for Emilie and I didn’t enjoy playing him with Furina, so I’m glad Kinich is a good alternative. I think I’ll find doing more damage with him and firing cannons at a faster rate a lot more satisfying than having a strong off-field DPS doing damage in his team.
No problem, thanks for watching! And yeah it is indeed very satisfying seeing the higher numbers with Ororon's buffing on Kinich
The ororon sidegrade of emilie wasn't in my agenda
Same!
Man, honestly thank you soo much. The last week i was sad bc i didnt know what team to use for yoimiya or lyney and i thought i would bench them forever. I didnt know i could use ororon like that. THANK YOU VERY MUCH 😭
No problem, happy to be of help!
What’s the rotation for Ororon /Kinich teams? I can’t proc cinder for dendro using the rotation in the video
He should trigger Quicken with his A1 passive and proc scroll as soon as kinich applies dendro. If thats not working, you can cast Kinich's Burst at the start of the first rotation to get Dendro applied from the start
I didnt know he is so good in lyney team wow!
Yeah I was surprised too!
video should be re-titled, ‘C6’ Ororon better than i thought
@@portable.barbara ...he's c4 in all of the testing tho?
Anyone else having trouble getting the triple scroll buff ? Tried all rotations
Are you sure you aren't getting it? Furina EQ>Ororon Q>Bennett EQ N2>Ororon E, works every single time for me. Is your Bennett c6?
@@GxGNoir Yes to all of that
@@foxtaunt hmm if you join my discord we may be able to help you with it better there
Maybe you play with a lot of ping (like I do). There are rotations that won't work with a lot of ping.
@@bifesans6625 its possible! my ping is 17ms, but maybe there's something else to it
Kinich, Ororon (Deepwood), Mavuika (scrolls), Bennett might be one of Kinich's best teams considering scrolls buff can be reapplied to burning because electro disturbs the burning aura for the second rotation. You could also use fischl but ororons taunt and aoe would probably be more useful than a fischl that has to use the deepwood set.
You aren't getting scroll for Kinich if u do Thoma before Benny. U can get it if u just swap Benny and Ororon and do EN1Q tho. It's worth the Benny uptime imo.
It seems your chamber 1 clear got it on the second wave for free tho.
Thanks for pointing that out! Updated pinned comment with correct rotation
Thank god I only had to spend 20 pulls to get this man. He'll be stuck at C0 for a while but he still feels so worthwhile at C0. I tested a lot of teams with him and had a lot of fun.
My guaranteed for Citlali is still safe.
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c nice!
I’ll have to try that Kinich team, I’m surprised Ororon works so well there! I also wouldn’t have thought to try him over Nahida/Fischl for Cyno teams, but he feels great there. Freeing up Nahida is kinda huge, plus no multiwave issues is great
Edit: looks like I can only get the scroll buff on Kinich if I burst with him to start the rotation, and I don’t have the ER to do that every time. The pyro aura from burning blocked him from getting a quicken in my testing once the rotation got going. Still a cool unexpected synergy
Hmm I need to try the rotation again then, it seemed to be working when I did it
Hello, you should be able to get the Scroll buff on Kinich with the following rotation: Thoma EQ>Bennett EQ>Ororon E N1 Q>Kinich. As long as you make sure you do the N1 on Ororon after his E and before his Q, it should work!
@@GxGNoir Thanks for testing this, I’ll give it a try later! I was doing Ororon between Thoma and Bennett to maximize Bennett uptime, I realize now why that’s a bad idea
@@NotAName1 Kinich only takes like 13s field time (like 11.5 if you don't cast his burst) and Ororon only takes like 1.5s field time, so Kinich should still get full Bennett uptime even with Ororon used there
@@GxGNoir Very good point
I’ve always believed in him, he is a treat to use. I went for C1 Lyney, getting Ororon’s C6 was the cherry on top. Great video. Btw, it’s ‘Arlecchino’ with a hard ‘k’ (pronounced like the ‘ck’ in ‘back’).
wait, its pronounced like that? I swear they use the "ch" sound and not "k" sound when saying it in game unless i remember completely wrong
In the infographic about Kinich you assumed a single Normal Attack between each E, but I tried the team a bit with the rotation in the pinned comment and I have to do either 2 or 3 Normal Attacks with Kinich between each E. It doesn’t look like Burning can sustain Ororon’s Electro application.
Another thing I noticed is that I don’t need to do N1 between Ororon’s E and Q. Thoma E Q > Bennet E Q > Ororon E Q > Kinich E N1 consistently gives me both the Pyro and the Electro buff.
Do you have any advice or update about this team?
@@deadencicle yeah sometimes Kinich has to do N2E and not N1E, N1E is mainly if he gets his deadzone - easy way I think about it is if I know I'm not gonna get the deadzone I do N2E, and if I know I will get it, N1E. A bit hard to notate that in the rotation on the sheet though
Still find it hard to believe that he does close to 200k dpr with fav bow
Then again i didn't level any of his talents
While he certainly does more damage than kachina and presumably even fischl in multi target abyss now adays rarely has more than 1 enemy at a time
In teams where he isn't getting many buffs it should be more like 150-180k DPR on him. 200k is if there are buffs he is benefiting from
@@GxGNoir thats still quite high considering most of his damage comes from his passive which only his C1 buffs
Stop it, now i want to c6 him and get elegy 😅 Xilonen Byelonen
If I want to play Ayato in EC with Furina Ororon and Fischl, do I build Ayato with EM, or use maybe lions roar instead his sig which seems bad.
@@kuvrut7747 that team doesn't work, you don't have a healer. But if it did work, you would not build EM on Ayato, no. It's impossible to know which character will trigger electro charged damage, so you'd be building em without knowing if he's even going to be doing reaction damage to begin.
Haran is always Ayatos best weapon. Finale of the Deep is a good free to play option, and lions roar is good if you can maintain the aura for the passive
@GxGNoir there's always Baizhu
I did 90 pulls just to get gim c0🥲
Also insane analysis he being that strong actually makes me feel gd getting him.
damn im hearing a lot of people having horrible luck trying to get him 💀its like the banner is cursed
@@GxGNoirmy friends got him in 1 or 2 10pulls while me ehh u get it