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Interesting ! I've always wanted to camp in a tee pee and cook on a stove inside . But this video shows it's not as simple as you might think. Thankyou Lily .
Survival Lilly, I think your fire was just too big for the tepee other than that, you did amazing job. Thanks. P.S. have tried the Cold Steel special forces shovel?
You only need one air chamber, that's why your fire is burning too high and too fast' creating a lot of smoke. The low one to the bottom of the fire is the one you should keep. Seal your tipi and liner to the ground with stones that way the smoke will go straight up in stead of staying around the top before going out slowly. If your going to be wintering in a tipi, dig your entire floor a foot deep and fill with stones (keep the position of the air tunnel and size of the fire pit) and put one large stone with a flat side standing on its edge so the smoke will want to travel up. All the stones will retain radiant heat and your tipi will be significantly warmer. And fill your tipi liner with moss as insulation. Wool blankets make a better liner than canvas. Just some advise from an old Traveller
yes - don't do this. completely incorrect and going against thousands of years of Native American tested and true ways. Read my post above and research the correct way of building a teepee
@@johnleslie3880 I built my floor off the ground level about 4 inches for that reason. Plus, during the winter the snow would pile up on the outside about 4 feet. I was afraid that the snow melt would flood the inside. My idea worked just fine. The only problem that I had was keeping the fire burning all night.
A proper tipi requires an inner liner all the way around the inside of the poles. The liner should go all the way to the ground with the outer shell having an air gap. This creates a chimney effect drawig the smoke up. I lived In A tipi for a long time. Good smoke flap skills are helpful as well. Love your channel Lilly !
Just want to verify this comment, the inner liner should go all the way to the ground, while the outer skin of the tipi has a gap above the ground that lets air in. Air will automatically flow in, but not across the tipi. Instead it rises automatically taking any smoke with it through the top. No need for a trench.
@@InskyJedburgh yes you are right the air will go between the interliner and the outer liner out the smoke hole at the top creating a draft inside the TP and pull the smoke up but the trench would probably work to but from what I saw with her teepee she doesn't need one because her liner had a lot of gaps at the bottom
Yep, the space between the tipi cover and inside liner acts like a chimney flue, drawing air from the bottom of the tipi cover and pushing the smoke up and out the top of the tipi. Another good idea is to get a lightweight wood stove with a 6’ or so stove pipe that is at least the height of the liner. Tipis are cool…👍
In addition to the liner, the teepee has an ozan. This is a “roof” inside the teepee that covers the back 1/3 to 1/2 of living quarters. Any rain that enters the smoke hole falls onto the ozan and runs back, over the liner, down the liner to a liner flap that extends outside where it takes the rainwater.
That is a good idea to keep the rain out. my indganous ancestors probably did that too I'm sure. It's pretty ingenious to use heat to create a vaccum to pull in air to feed the fire AND remove the smoke.
Good video, Lilly. Several comments: the tunnels draw in air and are useful primarily in winter, preventing cold air from entering from under the tipi or the door. Smoke control is accomplished with the smoke flaps outside, which you don't seem to be using at all. Also, the type of wood you use can effect the amount of smoke. A wood that doesn't spark (and a smaller fire!)is also useful as you will quickly burn your tipi if you continue to use those types of wood. As you point out, a liner also encourages a draft which pulls the smoke out at a higher level. Check out the Laubin's tipi book.
I agree with the above and especially using hardwood that does not throw so many sparks. And most importantly, do not make a Washeshu fire. Make a small Indian fire. Even fire retardant canvas will burn if you make a bonfire under it. Love your videos. They bring back fond memories of bushcraft.
Dooley Fussle...at one point she does adjust the airflow flaps outside the tepee. In her part of the world, it's easier said than done in finding specific woods. If all viewers would take in consideration of their comments 1st...before sending anyway. Yeah...the fire could be smaller- but if it's below freezing & snow accumulation on the tepee...that size a fire may be needed to at least warm up/dry clothes, build coals to cook on, etc. Make Ur own channel & show us how it's done...goes for all the other keyboard warriors out there too!! I watch Lilly for the entertainment/ educational value of her channel...not to pick apart what coulda/woulda been done different by someone else!
Shawn Rufus...did U watch something I didn't? At one point...she does adjust the airflow flaps outside the tepee!!! After reading the comments on the video, it seems as though everyone has so many "constructive" criticisms of the video. There's many situations that the size of the fire is needed. If it's raining/ snowing & needing to dry clothes, warm up the tepee in extremely cold weather, & to build a good coal bed to cook on. Wood selection isn't always an easy task n her part of the world...nor n true survival situations. Hopefully all the keyboard warriors out there understand that Lilly's channel is for education & Entertainment! Not a guideline of how things coulda, woulda, shoulda been done differently. Do Ur own video & show us exactly how U would do it & tag me to watch...guaranteed to pick Ur video apart also!!
Read the Laubin's Tipi book and it is excellent and my ex and I actually made a tipi and liner from that book and lived in it for a whole winter in the Midwest. I agree with you on the liner a tipi cannot function without it. The tipi is a most excellent shelter and can weather very high winds and severe storms. The down side to them is that once the fire burns too low you loose heat quickly even with a good coal bed.
As an old TP maintainer over 45 years I recon I got to say, good on ya. Your a game chicken kido. The only thing I can tell you about how I saw this , is that the air across the floor is what adds to the confusion of air currents and stirs up the smoke so it dosnt get dragged up and out. Behind your couch in the vid I could see enough opening to outside that this is what made it smoky. Also your Flaps need to be wide open with a fire. I love the tunnels. I have two into my firepit which is 6 feet across on a 22 foot TP. The inner material goes to the ground and folded 1 foot into the center. I put sand on this and even bugs cant get in except over the top. You now have a velocity stack that, with the heat going straight up it draws everything through your tunnels and not across the floor. Then you got a tight ship and an easier controlled smoke.
Hi Lily. I have been watching youtube for about a year. I saw your videos among the first and all i found afterward. I grew up in the mountains. I experienced many failiers, you show yours just like successes. You're the best i've seen. Proud of ya.
You're the Queen Lilly! I love watching you building your shelter, and perfecting it all around. I really enjoy watching you as you were sitting on your bed. I have always "sat like a man", as my mom called it. I wasn't very lady like, and I would have enjoyed doing what you are doing now, but I'm 63, so no chance. So I live vicariously through you, as I watch your adventures. I love how adventurous and creative you are. Sending Love from Canada!!
The fire warms the air and the hot air goes up as it is lighter than cold air (hot air balloon principle). So the smoke and hot air would have never gone though the ground intakes. The two intakes will never be exhausts because of the principle (hot air goes up).For the smoke problem, I think your exhaust, which is the top of the tepee, must be balanced with the size of the fire. Too much fire/smoke will make the smoke and hot air accumulates of hot air/smoke in the tepee. I think the rule would be to have a fire/smoke output smaller or equal to the exhaust output in order to create a flow of smoke going up without accumulation in the tepee. A small fire would do better than a big one. Also, the tepee should be build in a slope, maybe a slight one, and one intake would suffice (not two) but it should be built from the downside of the tepee so the water of the rain does not go in the tepee and the fire. It will also go with the direction of the flow of the air (bottom ->up). BTW, I was a fishing guide in Canada for a while (summer job).
There is no exhaust pipe; in fact the tepee center until the top opening is the exhaust. The pipes are at the bottom and so they cab only be the air input as cold air is at the bottom.
Fishing guide doesn't = teepee master in any way. I've fished, hunted, and grown up in the woods of the UP of Michigan. Never built a teepee though. So any info is great but just bc you fished a bit in Canada means nil
If the outer shell is set properly, and the dew cloth (inner liner) is used as designed, it creates a natural chimney effect which not only draws fresh cold dense air from the base, but pushes smoke out through the smoke flaps. In the coldest temperatures, an added element of a sleeping "cover" can be used to keep heat down low over the sleeper. Her outer cover is too low on the poles. Needs 6-8 inches of space to ground for proper draw. Having camped countless times in tipis, my experience is that keeping inside temps around 70° is not hard to do even in dead winter. Imho there's no need to "improve" a very simple design that has been proven since the dawn of man. This particular idea kind of defeats the entire purpose of an efficient, highly mobile, and durable shelter that's suitable for multiple occupants with minimal impact on the surroundings. That being said, it is nice to see there's still folks interested in keeping this technology going.
Hello again Lily. My first comment covered the tunnels and why the air was pulled into them. My second comment pertains to the smoke itself. At first the smoke will be hotter than the air and thus less dense and cause it to rise. Most of the smoke is hot ash so as it rises it will also cool losing density and gaining weight. So, the higher the Tepee the more ash (smoke) will collect in the upper portion of the Tepee. Opening the flap at the top of the Tepee will of course help dramatically reducing smoke build up. A cold intake of air at the bottom of the Tepee will help push more smoke out the top creating a chimney effect. The clean cold air intake at the bottom being just as important as the exit out the top. This is vital that the air in the lower half of the Tepee will have less smoke (denser cold fresh air) and you would not die in your sleep due to smoke inhalation. Using wood that create less ash (smoke) helps also to reduce the amount of smoke in the Tepee. I hope I did not get to Scientific but I am a Scientist who loves Bushcrafting :)
I like the idea you had for drawing the air from piping in the floor. It had a pretty good chance of working. We had great success heating a room with a large open fireplace by running pipes from the floor outside the fire place through the fire place and then through the wall and facing out onto/into the room. The fire heated the pipes, sucked the cold air off the floor right in. Result: lots of clean warm air heated by the fire in the stove area of the fire place which also put out heat. Cozy. Heating pipe causes the cold air inside to heat & then draw from one end & move out the other very quickly. Perhaps, if you found some way of heating a tall standing or horizontal stove pipe you could get a strong warm air circulation and movement below the teepee ceiling cut/opening, which would force the smoky air out and warm the dwelling up more. Don't make the pipe a fire place flue or smoke duct, just HEAT IT! Might work? Nice vid. Arthur (Ngai)
Lilly, thanx for the video. The shovel looks great. As far as the airflow in the teepee goes, I seem to remember the liner needs contact with the ground. The teepee canvas needs to be up a few inches off the ground. It's important to adjust the flaps above to have the outside breeze / wind blows across the top, drawing the smoke up and out of the top of the teepee. We would leave the top wide open facing roughly downwind on calmer or light breeze times. Windy times the top would be more closed facing downwind again. ( Don't let these hijackers stop you from posting more survival videos).
I'm sooo happy to see a woman making survival videos lily your a bada$$! Love all the tips you're English is spot on! Don't let the haters get you down. Just let it roll off your back like a duck with water!!
I've always wondered why fireplaces and wood stoves are not designed to pull air from outside and not from the room. Pulling air from the room pulls in cold air from outside, making heating the room less efficient.
PRO RAIN TIP: When installing the liner walls, add two sticks under the upper liner ties. The sticks need to run perpendicular to the teepee poles with an inch gap between them. This will allow the rain water to run down the poles and not soak the liner as it runs to the bottom of the teepee and into the drainage ditch yo dug around the base of the teepee. If you have water dripping after the installation of the sticks, adjust the sticks to allow the rain water stream to flow between the sticks.
Cold Steel is junk dude. I've never seen a single product of theres that wasn't the lowest quality Chinese pure crap. The hilarious part is their price. Resellers sell shit at 25% of the price Cold Steel list it for on their own website, and even then it's still easily six or more times the value of the object.
The mechanics and theory of your presentation have been in use by native tribal peoples from around the world for no less than 300 centuries. Various adaptations and experimental designs by them have produced varied results for those peoples that have suited well all of the innovative individuals that have used it. It has even been used by native Americans for quite a few centuries and various archaeological digs have uncovered some very effective examples. Keep experimenting with it and reap the rewards of ingenuity. By the way, placing a large flat stone partially buried in the ground facing the fire from the opposite side of the incoming air tunnel will produce an additional hot air updraft as the fire heats the stone and helps to direct air flow up and out of the air smoke/vent hole in the roof of the tepee or tent. Your videos are cool, the genuine article.
lol, then you would sure be busy taking the Tipi down , rotating it and building it up again, if you should that everytime the wind direction changes you basically could not do anything else. :/
@@rodger3755 well, you clearly didnt get your medicine today, your stupid rant shows what sort if immature individual you are, you cant handle when anyone point out differences in the way a tipi is made?, you delicate little flower.. now run along so someone does not truely hurt your feelings by critisising anything that you like.
Awww come on guys and ladies she looks like she is having fun...This is the first outdoors video I have ever seen. This is what got me into the outdoors and bushcraft :)
The air tunnel aspect is an old trick to have a smoke less fire. The fire pit must be deeper and the intake at the bottom of the pit and the exhaust at the top of the pit with the fire in-between. Build up rocks around the top edge of the pit to capture the heat. This isn't actually a smokeless fire but, when in survival mode you can build a fire with out the flames above the ground. It is the light that makes the survivor visible at night. If you are being hunted, the smoke might be smelled by hunters but, when the flame isn't visible it is really hard to track smoke.
Larry Lund About the light and smoke increasing the chance of detection: that is actually a good thing in most "civilian" survival situations, when you WANT to be detected and rescued. Good points, in any case.
It all depends on the survival situation, every one is different in some way. say for instance your area has been invaded by a foreign force you wouldn't want to be detected in that type of scenario. It's not being paranoid it's thinking through the situation you happen to find yourself in at that certain point in time. I think all replies were good.
Is what you are describing whats called a " Dakota Fire Hole "?\ It seemed to me both her holes were at the same level. I agree one should have been lower to pull in fresh air and the upper to draw it out.
loved the video, your energy and vibrancy is so good to see. well impressed with the shovel/multi tool.. the bits I did not like an over complicated Dakota fire pit.
Very nice, as time goes on you will prefect your teepee.. I found a 2 inch round galvanized pipe at a building that was taken down.. 9 feet long + .. Buried that, you don't want it exposed to the fire, but under it, Stone's on top of it. Galvanized pipe puts off a bad gas of it gets too hot.. The pipe deeper outside the teepee than inside, =2 inch.. Water won't run up hill.. And flood your fire, tent, or stop up the air flow/ intake air.. Once the air gap at the bottom of the tent/ teepee is sealed shut.. Air will be drawn in that through that pipe/tunnel/ trench.. whatever and it don't take much air to keep a nice fire going.. Stone fire pit, so they get warm and hold heat to the lower part of the tent.. And your in the snoozing BUSSINESS.. Some rocks get hot and explode, so be aware of that problem. I have one on our property, mid Atlantic east coast of the 🇺🇸.. A hunting lodge type tent,,teepee thing.. I have to take it down these days, or its hard to say what may move in.. In cold weather, the. stone fire pit is important.. If you get slabs of rock vertical, then slabs laid on top of those horizontal, level with the floor Making the hole for the fire in the center, smaller, now when they get hot, it stays warm at a lower level..
Spoiler: Hot air rises. Rising air pulls in cold air from outside. To make your smokeless fire, you need to have the fire burn below the exhaust chute. Once you burn it, it's not going to go DOWN to get back into the ground and go out your tunnel. I don't know why you thought you could make two of the exact same tunnel and expect them to know one was supposed to be in and the other out. :p
We've camped in tepees since I was little and a liner is essential to getting proper draft when done right it will not be smokey inside, still like the idea.
When tying liner to poles, use 2 sticks on the inside of the pole for rope to go over so when it rains, the water will continue to run down the poles instead of getting liner wet and coming inside. The Indians figured this out centuries ago.
Hi! East of the Ural mountains smoke free tents where build during stone age and until today.. Build like you did in the video. Start a fire on the outside part of the tunnel. Wait a bit for that fire to build a up a draft and almost go out. Then put a chimney (from bark or hides) on the outside. Then start firing indoors. You will suddenly have a very "modern" state of the art sort of reverse combustion and... floor heating. Quite modern but stone age old. They where cunning in the past too. Dejan de SA3BOW
drontobil well they were human. Primitive but not stupid. People then had high iqs as well. Its not like you can magically discover how to build a car in the stoneage lol.
Quite obviously, tipis were spread at least throughout the northern hemisphere. The Sami people of northern Scandinavia have propbably used them for thousands of years.
Elaina M I think they had tipi from animal skin. That is stronger to carry the snow and maybe much more warm than cotton. The yurts are made from vilt (sheep wool) do not know the name in English. Happy new year 🎈🎈🎈
Thanks for showing where you made a mistake in the building process while offering the solution as well. The shovel is very versatile as well. Great video and total support!
I bought a shovel like that. It was advertised to dig, chop, cut cotter pins and stay sharp. What a piece of garbage. It even looks, out of the package, cheap junk. The company I bought it from boasted a guarentee. HA!...They wont even respond to your correspondence, they utterly ignore you. Just a warning, be careful of whom you purchase your shovel from. If you get one.
what an awesome shovel, it reminds me of the Cold Steel shovel that Fowler used on season 3 of Alone. very cool I'm sure you know this, but when the shovel is fixed at the 90 degree position it makes for an awesome trenching tool. I find that it makes what you were doing there much easier, but each to their own. I love your videos, keep up the great work
Nice video, thanks for sharing. As others have commented a properly installed liner and flaps adjusted for the wind will give the best results to limit smoke inside the tipi, your design, in my opinion is better suited to a solid structure without openings in the roof to vent smoke, also a bigger fire means more fuel which means more work to gather and process it. The tipi is designed for the smoke to exit through the top opening, i never start the fire inside the tipi but use coals from the outside fire pit inside a large metal coffee can with holes in the sides and bottom which i place in a hole below ground level and lined with rocks to above ground level to absorb heat while the fire is burning, i debark and dry wood by the outside fire pit and place it inside to keep it dry and ready if needed but most times i place a flat stone on top of the can to snuff the fire when i go to sleep. Unless its raining to hard to do so i only cook outside because food odor and grease will build up inside and i would rather smell the smoke from the fire and the cedar of the tipi poles
Your intended exhaust tunnels were nothing more than intake, which is good for feeding oxygen to the fire. For starters, you need a bigger opening atop the tipi, smaller fire, smaller intake tunnels, dryer wood, etc. That shovel is cute for a 6 year old, maybe, but it wastes a ton of energy in a survival situation. Hey, you're a good sport. Very good effort.
Do you often have a full size shovel with you in survival situations? Come on man. We're talking about something you would carry in your pack just in case. Who the fuck is strapping a 5 foot shovel onto the Northface?
I enjoyed your video and the spirit it was done in. I found it warm, gracious and informative. Ignore all the genius experts and their rude, unsolicited advice. Good manners disappeared with the advent of social media, and now every jerk that remains anonymous behind his keyboard unloads on strangers with brutish obstinance. Thank you for a cool video.
I agree, I applaud her for doing a video about something she is enjoying learning to do. What's with all the haters, who don't even know this girl? Why shouldn't she post what she likes on her channel? She's not commited a crime, but by some of the patronising, scornful comments she has received you would think she'd done something really dreadful. Thanks from me too for not fruitlessly chasing perfection but for being real.
lilly. shorter, larger, deeper air tunnel for fire. angled fire hole facing into center of tent (keep fire mostly under ground, the heat will rise out...less sparking to burn you to death.) If you hauled all that clay and stone in, you should have brought a metal trash (small) can to put over the fire hole. It will act as a chimney and radiate heat. It is light. Further, your air tunnel can be made of lightweight plastic drainage tube or some such thing, instead of humping heavy clay. The size of the air tunnel must equal the size of the intended fire and the exhaust opening in tent, otherwise, you get smoke. There are MANY better ways to heat that tent, however, relatively cheaply/sustainably.
Putting a fire in a teepee can be dangerous because as the fire cools off the space above cools too much for smoke to rise and go out at the top. People can die from carbon monoxide poisoning the same as in a house fire as the carbon monoxide fills the teepee. If you want heat in the teepee it should be in a proper stove with a proper chimney. Insulation on the upper part of the chimney will help it stay warm enough to prevent the smoke from being cooled too much.
I have one but I'm a Native American of the Blackfeet Nation. We don't dig any trench, I noticed you didn't put up your wall until the end that should go up before any fire and the inside wall must extend a foot onto the ground so you can place items on it.
Creates a vacuum effect. The heat going out top pulls in air under the skirt in traditional tipi and the fire itself will pull air through the tunnels. This also causes the smoke to go out the top too. The skirt provides wind protection and also reflec the heat of the fire back to the center
Lilly,Enjoying your videos tremendously. I appreciate your enthusiasm. It is contagious.Please do not take the following as a put down on your efforts. You may, however, be over thinking and consequently over engineering a basic simple design. Have you considered consulting with the plains Indians here in Canada/USA to ask them if they ever had wind tunnels in the floors of their teepees? If yes ,why? If not, why not? Perhaps managing smoke inside is a matter of manipulating the flaps or floor edges to create a better up draft? Perhaps you cannot manage it and simply have to live with it.Perhaps teepees were inherently smoky owing to traditional design flaws? I do know from historical accounts that eastern First Nations' "long house" lodgings were notoriously smoky. Naturally, this doesn't mean we cannot try to improve the situation.Concerning your draft tunnels: I can't help but worry, for your sake and that of any guests,that during long periods of sustained rain that you might experience flooding and your entire floor will become a muddy quagmire.I have seen a documentary about the reindeer people of northern Scandinavia where they use a teepee type lodging. They may have some tricks on how to deal with the issue of smoke buildup inside their lodgings.Being now retired, I have become very interested in bush craft, the notion of preparedness and maybe having to bug out at some point in the future, for whatever the reasons. People, such as you, have helped to fuel my interest and enthusiasm for these skills which may become a necessity, on very short notice, in the event of a disaster.Thanks so much and keep up your outstanding work.Leslie Robert Watts (Les ! )
As a member of both the Oglala Lakota and Cheyenne River Sioux Plains tribes I can attest that we've always had smoke problems no matter what you do with the tipi. Still have mine passed down from my family through 130yrs. The things with tipis are that we never stayed in an area for more than a week (speak for my tribes only) usually because wherever the buffalo roamed so did we. So things weren't as...permanent. I've soaked up much from my Elders and Medicine men and never have they taught me any tricks when I set it up lol. If there are I'd like to know as well. Btw cool video! Love seeing people in tune with nature.
Nate and Les,, and of course, dear Lilly,, I could not agree with you two gentleman more. My experience that taught me,,, designing an ultra efficient residence for central New Mexico,, mid 1980's. I studied and planned, read everything, calculated endlessly,,[ SMART ] after a solid week or two , I came to the conclusion that the residence needed walls 9 inches of masonry to even out the day, night, temp swings and 6 inches of fiberglass,,, and then after all that work,, a tiny light bulb went off in my head. What are the dimensions of an adobe brick? Yep ! 9 inches. The Anasazi Indians of the Southwest figured it out 2,000 years ago. The only thing I accomplished was to confirm what was known at 0 AD. I ask more questions now. [Wisdom ] [Well,, sometimes.]
I belong to a medieval society, I've helped set up many yurts and tents. You only need the pottery or fireproof piping, next to the fire. Otherwise in that we used to dig the trench and cover it with a 2x6. We would counter sync it so you could cover the dirt and the grass on top of the board. Outside was a problem because these tunnels will sometimes flood. At which point we would put another piece of pipe and cover the whole outside of it any place where water could get in with the dirt and the grass. But it was chipped out for the opening withdrawal in air feed the fire, and as long as you kept that top piece open, any smoke you have will go right out the top.
Lilly I am in Cherokee County Oklahome have had many a nights in a teepee it's the only way to camp, summer or winter no tents for me only my teepee lol . Keep up the videos Love you work & adventurous outlook.
countree boy teepee is great if you got time, should try a tarp and bivy =p i love doing a teepee if me and the wife are doing dispersed camping within a mile of the road but I'm usually too far in to pack much. Where abouts do you camp?
Kubdog your just a punk that 'll never get a sweet heart like Lilly. Go back to whatever HELLHOLE you climbed out of so WE can bury yer stupid ass you punk !! Lilly Is an Angel trying to have fun & experiment. Fuckin TROLL
Can't understand why people cut bottle openers on knife blades weakening them, when you can open a bottle with a lot of things, including the back of the blade or even another bottle.
I always taught the belief of the use of dead trees as firewood . The great creator provides are needs look around and give thanks. Much appreciation for ypur video . Osiyo
So your teepee is built wrong which is why you're having a problem with smoke. You have the outer layer but are missing an inner layer. So you do not want the outer layer to reach the earth. If done correctly it should be tied to each support and making a crescent moon shape with about 5" of space in the middle & 2" at the post. On the inside you should have a second layer of canvas that goes up about 4'-6' depending on the height of the teepee (4' for your smaller teepee). The inner layer on yours would be tied 4' up and then should go down the sides tie at the bottom of the supports and then lay on the ground to make a floor. Think of a V laying on one side and going up the support. This does two things, first gets you off the dirt, and second creates a natural air vent. Also make sure your teepee is facing away from the direction of where the wind is coming (in the US & most of the world face east). This will cause the air to pull across your teepee at the top and suck the air out, pulling from the bottom of the sides creating a natural wind current that you control by how open/closed you keep the top.
new subscriber here, I love the fact your using a teepee, I really like your accent, I love that shovel, and I can't wait to watch more! I found your channel from watching a couple other UA-camrs and am glad I did. thanks for sharing the smoke vent video, this will save my lungs!
An outside air source makes a lot of sense in an airtight building, but this tepee is open all around the bottom edge, I don't see the point of adding a tunnel to a wide open air flow.
Doug Mcdonell there really isn't a need for any tunnels for extra air intake. because the tipi itself acts just like a huge air intake. the bottom of the outside cover should be raised up a little more and the inside liner should go all the way to the ground. this causes the fire to heat up the air inside the tip so it will rise and it draws in fresh smokeless air in between the liner and outside cover. also her smoke flap poles should be going around the back of the tipi, not the front. this helps you adjust to the wind direction so the wind doesn't blow the smoke back into the top of the tipi and smoke you out. you should adjust them so the smoke flaps go with the direction of the wind and it creates yet another form of draw.
Hahaha, you're adding information that actually means something. I watched this video and it's so hard to take it very seriously. My problem is that I know how tipis work.
I lived for two years in a tipi near the Idaho/Canadian border. If you leave the tipi a few inches off of the ground on the outside and put up a liner inside you should not need to dig any tunnels. Temperatures where I lived in a tipi got down to 25 degrees below zero..
I imagine all of the critical comments are from men. I could be wrong but I'll bet I'm not. Men just seem to think that survival is a man's game. Lily, I'm a man (incidentally) but I love your vids. So what if there are other ways to do things. You're doing it and I find it so much fun to watch. Good on you, Sister!
I don't know where you found the music for this, but it's so ridiculously perfect. I absolutely love it, it just seems to fit you so wonderfully well. Awesome video!
I think I will order one of those cool Tools and get a head start on my Christmas shopping. If I like it I might even get another one for a friend. :-)
They're called Entrenching Tools. Handy, but hard on the old back. The pick is very useful. I doubt the metal is of a similar hardness to the one in the video and wouldn't hold a good edge.
amblt1: I have had an old army entrenching tool for so many years I can't remember when I bought it. I made a new wood handle about 10 years ago because it dried out and split. I sharpen the side of the blade on occasion to cut roots as I dig. I use it in the yard all the time to plant bushes. I was so impressed when I used one in the Army to dig Fox Holes in 1958 I had to buy this one. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles the one Lilly has but it sure works to dig a small hole. Some one should show Lilly how to use it as a hoe. She is quite a gal trying to make an income on her own. Lots of U tubers do not realize this.
Toolman “Quite a gal trying to make an income on her own”? In the modern age, MANY MANY women do that. My own wife has a Masters of Science degree and doesn’t need my money to survive.
@@totallyfrozen Yes, but you are the only one who cares what your wife does!!! I thought Toolman's comment and tone were kind and encouraging. Stop looking for things to be offended about on your wife's behalf, I am sure you can find plenty of stuff to be offended about in your own right. 😉
I agree with the last reply - from 3 years ago, the bottom edges of the tipi are way high and need to be down to the ground. Especially in cold weather. Also, those air tunnels are a good idea to bring fresh air to the fire, but when it rains the water is going to run down the sides of your tipi and flow right down the tunnel. In addition to pegging the bottom edges of the tipi to the ground, you need to dig a trench around the outside bottom of the tent, so water flows into the trench - doesn't have to be deep - and have the trench depth increasing toward connecting radiating trenches, so that water will flow toward the connecting trenches that radiate outward and funnel the rainwater AWAY from the tipi. Otherwise you'll wake up in the morning after a rainy night and find you have a mud floor. Don't forget that in the winter, snow and sleet might melt on the outside of a tipi that has a big fire inside. So you'll get water flowing down, then freezing again - and possibly blocking your rain drainage system - so if you're camping in the spring or fall with cold snowy weather followed by warm weather you'll need to keep your drainage system clear. . The shovel seems to be modeled after the old style Army 'intrenching tool' that we used back in the sixties/seventies when I was in Sam's Green Machine - at least the way the shovel head folds against the handle and can be positioned as a pick as well as a shovel. Ours had wooden handles and were bigger than the one your demonstrated. The gadgets in the handle are nice, just wonder if the handle can hold up to really tough digging - say a shoulder deep fighting position? ;)
If she left the tepee a couple of inches off the ground and installed a liner inside on a cord that goes all the way to the ground and then some It creates a draft coming between the tepee and the liner and draws the smoke up and out the top if the wind flaps on top are positioned correctly for prevailing wind White Lilly is welcome in my tepee anytime
Riiiiiight... all that totally dry wood i just see laying around in the forest every time go out. Wow i should start using it, why didn't I think of that before?? In most climates you won't find dry wood you have to let it dry out for like a year minimum, requiring a permanent settlement.
The inside liner that starts at the ground and goes about 6 feet up and around the circumference of the inside of the tipi can also help draw smoke up and out of the top. It provides an air space between the tipi wall and the liner that pulls air up creating a draft. I never had a real issue with a tipi getting to smokey. Always use good dry hardwood. My friends and I had a 20 footer that we camped in through out the year. Had some good times in that lodge. It's a remarkable structure that the Native Americans designed to perfection.
What is interesting is that other cultures around the world also have versions of the tipi. In Siberia they have one that uses covers made of pelts with fur intact that are double layered.
Probably because the TeePee.... isn't right next to ones tool shed. But located somewhere one has to lug gear to. Hence the smaller shovel. It's not the best version but got the job done.
Your shovel was so durable because most good survival shovels like that are made out of Mangalloy, which is a type of metal alloy which is very resistance to bending and warping and is exactly what you want in that sort of tool. Thanks for the video! :3
Lilly... greetings from Louisiana and I wanted to tell you I really enjoyed your duck hunting video. I am a duck hunter here where I live and it's a shame you had to disable comments on those vids. Keep up the good work. :)
Congratulations on your 1M followers. I've been watching your videos for a number of years now. Job well done. You do a great job presenting and explaining the information. Looking forward to future videos. Such a good role model for young women around the world displaying confidence in all that you take on.
@@vestcoasttrashgnome8565, nobody. You'd use it to cut through roots, or to take someone's head off in hand-to-hand. As eating utensils go... it wouldn't.
@@guarddog318 you have a good point there about cutting through roots, Roots are pretty much the Rebar of the nature considering how dense it can make The Ground.
You didn't actually think it was going to pull from one tunnel and go out the other did you? lol. The only way to make a teepee not have smoke is to use a draft pipe straight up through the top of the structure. Most people just stay low to the ground happy just to be out of the cold and the elements.
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Interesting ! I've always wanted to camp in a tee pee and cook on a stove inside . But this video shows it's not as simple as you might think. Thankyou Lily .
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Survival Lilly, I think your fire was just too big for the tepee other than that, you did amazing job. Thanks. P.S. have tried the Cold Steel special forces shovel?
Red man do small fire sit close, white man do big fire sit far away!
Carefully orient your tunnel so you don't flood your fire on a rainy night...
You only need one air chamber, that's why your fire is burning too high and too fast' creating a lot of smoke. The low one to the bottom of the fire is the one you should keep. Seal your tipi and liner to the ground with stones that way the smoke will go straight up in stead of staying around the top before going out slowly. If your going to be wintering in a tipi, dig your entire floor a foot deep and fill with stones (keep the position of the air tunnel and size of the fire pit) and put one large stone with a flat side standing on its edge so the smoke will want to travel up. All the stones will retain radiant heat and your tipi will be significantly warmer. And fill your tipi liner with moss as insulation. Wool blankets make a better liner than canvas. Just some advise from an old Traveller
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If it rain, will the digged one foot deep floor be filled with water?
yes - don't do this. completely incorrect and going against thousands of years of Native American tested and true ways. Read my post above and research the correct way of building a teepee
@@johnleslie3880 I built my floor off the ground level about 4 inches for that reason. Plus, during the winter the snow would pile up on the outside about 4 feet. I was afraid that the snow melt would flood the inside. My idea worked just fine. The only problem that I had was keeping the fire burning all night.
A proper tipi requires an inner liner all the way around the inside of the poles. The liner should go all the way to the ground with the outer shell having an air gap. This creates a chimney effect drawig the smoke up. I lived In A tipi for a long time. Good smoke flap skills are helpful as well.
Love your channel Lilly !
Just want to verify this comment, the inner liner should go all the way to the ground, while the outer skin of the tipi has a gap above the ground that lets air in. Air will automatically flow in, but not across the tipi. Instead it rises automatically taking any smoke with it through the top. No need for a trench.
The trench was for the fire air supply only. Hope this helps.
@@InskyJedburgh yes you are right the air will go between the interliner and the outer liner out the smoke hole at the top creating a draft inside the TP and pull the smoke up but the trench would probably work to but from what I saw with her teepee she doesn't need one because her liner had a lot of gaps at the bottom
A liner on the inside of your poles with the outer cover on the outside. Same as described by Buddy Mandery described.
Yep, the space between the tipi cover and inside liner acts like a chimney flue, drawing air from the bottom of the tipi cover and pushing the smoke up and out the top of the tipi. Another good idea is to get a lightweight wood stove with a 6’ or so stove pipe that is at least the height of the liner. Tipis are cool…👍
In addition to the liner, the teepee has an ozan. This is a “roof” inside the teepee that covers the back 1/3 to 1/2 of living quarters. Any rain that enters the smoke hole falls onto the ozan and runs back, over the liner, down the liner to a liner flap that extends outside where it takes the rainwater.
Great advise. It’s all for cliks.
The ozan also reflects heat from the fire onto the sleepers underneath it.
Include a covered smoke hole in the roof. That's what my ancestors here in America have done for many millennia
speaking of, what do you think of the phrase "end USA occupation in america"?
@@wolfboyft I believe that is an oxymoron...
That is a good idea to keep the rain out. my indganous ancestors probably did that too I'm sure. It's pretty ingenious to use heat to create a vaccum to pull in air to feed the fire AND remove the smoke.
@@bringer-of-change you can spell ingenious but you CANNOT spell INDIGENOUS?
@@contactjoy4140 makes me question if he is lol
Good video, Lilly. Several comments: the tunnels draw in air and are useful primarily in winter, preventing cold air from entering from under the tipi or the door. Smoke control is accomplished with the smoke flaps outside, which you don't seem to be using at all. Also, the type of wood you use can effect the amount of smoke. A wood that doesn't spark (and a smaller fire!)is also useful as you will quickly burn your tipi if you continue to use those types of wood. As you point out, a liner also encourages a draft which pulls the smoke out at a higher level. Check out the Laubin's tipi book.
I agree with the above and especially using hardwood that does not throw so many sparks. And most importantly, do not make a Washeshu fire. Make a small Indian fire. Even fire retardant canvas will burn if you make a bonfire under it. Love your videos. They bring back fond memories of bushcraft.
Dooley Fussle...at one point she does adjust the airflow flaps outside the tepee. In her part of the world, it's easier said than done in finding specific woods. If all viewers would take in consideration of their comments 1st...before sending anyway. Yeah...the fire could be smaller- but if it's below freezing & snow accumulation on the tepee...that size a fire may be needed to at least warm up/dry clothes, build coals to cook on, etc. Make Ur own channel & show us how it's done...goes for all the other keyboard warriors out there too!! I watch Lilly for the entertainment/ educational value of her channel...not to pick apart what coulda/woulda been done different by someone else!
Shawn Rufus...did U watch something I didn't? At one point...she does adjust the airflow flaps outside the tepee!!! After reading the comments on the video, it seems as though everyone has so many "constructive" criticisms of the video. There's many situations that the size of the fire is needed. If it's raining/ snowing & needing to dry clothes, warm up the tepee in extremely cold weather, & to build a good coal bed to cook on. Wood selection isn't always an easy task n her part of the world...nor n true survival situations. Hopefully all the keyboard warriors out there understand that Lilly's channel is for education & Entertainment! Not a guideline of how things coulda, woulda, shoulda been done differently. Do Ur own video & show us exactly how U would do it & tag me to watch...guaranteed to pick Ur video apart also!!
Read the Laubin's Tipi book and it is excellent and my ex and I actually made a tipi and liner from that book and lived in it for a whole winter in the Midwest. I agree with you on the liner a tipi cannot function without it. The tipi is a most excellent shelter and can weather very high winds and severe storms. The down side to them is that once the fire burns too low you loose heat quickly even with a good coal bed.
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As an old TP maintainer over 45 years I recon I got to say, good on ya. Your a game chicken kido. The only thing I can tell you about how I saw this , is that the air across the floor is what adds to the confusion of air currents and stirs up the smoke so it dosnt get dragged up and out. Behind your couch in the vid I could see enough opening to outside that this is what made it smoky. Also your Flaps need to be wide open with a fire. I love the tunnels. I have two into my firepit which is 6 feet across on a 22 foot TP. The inner material goes to the ground and folded 1 foot into the center. I put sand on this and even bugs cant get in except over the top. You now have a velocity stack that, with the heat going straight up it draws everything through your tunnels and not across the floor. Then you got a tight ship and an easier controlled smoke.
Flaps. Wide open. 🙈🙊🙉
Hi Lily. I have been watching youtube for about a year. I saw your videos among the first and all i found afterward. I grew up in the mountains. I experienced many failiers, you show yours just like successes. You're the best i've seen. Proud of ya.
You're the Queen Lilly! I love watching you building your shelter, and perfecting it all around. I really enjoy watching you as you were sitting on your bed. I have always "sat like a man", as my mom called it. I wasn't very lady like, and I would have enjoyed doing what you are doing now, but I'm 63, so no chance. So I live vicariously through you, as I watch your adventures. I love how adventurous and creative you are. Sending Love from Canada!!
The fire warms the air and the hot air goes up as it is lighter than cold air (hot air balloon principle). So the smoke and hot air would have never gone though the ground intakes. The two intakes will never be exhausts because of the principle (hot air goes up).For the smoke problem, I think your exhaust, which is the top of the tepee, must be balanced with the size of the fire. Too much fire/smoke will make the smoke and hot air accumulates of hot air/smoke in the tepee. I think the rule would be to have a fire/smoke output smaller or equal to the exhaust output in order to create a flow of smoke going up without accumulation in the tepee. A small fire would do better than a big one. Also, the tepee should be build in a slope, maybe a slight one, and one intake would suffice (not two) but it should be built from the downside of the tepee so the water of the rain does not go in the tepee and the fire. It will also go with the direction of the flow of the air (bottom ->up). BTW, I was a fishing guide in Canada for a while (summer job).
so I agreed but there is a possible step maybe you might want to talk about, once the exhaust pipe gets heated it will pull much better
There is no exhaust pipe; in fact the tepee center until the top opening is the exhaust. The pipes are at the bottom and so they cab only be the air input as cold air is at the bottom.
your advice sucks, don't quit your day job...
Fishing guide doesn't = teepee master in any way. I've fished, hunted, and grown up in the woods of the UP of Michigan. Never built a teepee though. So any info is great but just bc you fished a bit in Canada means nil
If the outer shell is set properly, and the dew cloth (inner liner) is used as designed, it creates a natural chimney effect which not only draws fresh cold dense air from the base, but pushes smoke out through the smoke flaps. In the coldest temperatures, an added element of a sleeping "cover" can be used to keep heat down low over the sleeper. Her outer cover is too low on the poles. Needs 6-8 inches of space to ground for proper draw.
Having camped countless times in tipis, my experience is that keeping inside temps around 70° is not hard to do even in dead winter.
Imho there's no need to "improve" a very simple design that has been proven since the dawn of man.
This particular idea kind of defeats the entire purpose of an efficient, highly mobile, and durable shelter that's suitable for multiple occupants with minimal impact on the surroundings.
That being said, it is nice to see there's still folks interested in keeping this technology going.
Hello again Lily. My first comment covered the tunnels and why the air was pulled into them. My second comment pertains to the smoke itself. At first the smoke will be hotter than the air and thus less dense and cause it to rise. Most of the smoke is hot ash so as it rises it will also cool losing density and gaining weight. So, the higher the Tepee the more ash (smoke) will collect in the upper portion of the Tepee. Opening the flap at the top of the Tepee will of course help dramatically reducing smoke build up. A cold intake of air at the bottom of the Tepee will help push more smoke out the top creating a chimney effect. The clean cold air intake at the bottom being just as important as the exit out the top. This is vital that the air in the lower half of the Tepee will have less smoke (denser cold fresh air) and you would not die in your sleep due to smoke inhalation. Using wood that create less ash (smoke) helps also to reduce the amount of smoke in the Tepee. I hope I did not get to Scientific but I am a Scientist who loves Bushcrafting :)
I like that you didn't B.S. about still having some smoke. I appreciate honesty 😀
I like the idea you had for drawing the air from piping in the floor. It had a pretty good chance of working. We had great success heating a room with a large open fireplace by running pipes from the floor outside the fire place through the fire place and then through the wall and facing out onto/into the room. The fire heated the pipes, sucked the cold air off the floor right in. Result: lots of clean warm air heated by the fire in the stove area of the fire place which also put out heat. Cozy. Heating pipe causes the cold air inside to heat & then draw from one end & move out the other very quickly. Perhaps, if you found some way of heating a tall standing or horizontal stove pipe you could get a strong warm air circulation and movement below the teepee ceiling cut/opening, which would force the smoky air out and warm the dwelling up more. Don't make the pipe a fire place flue or smoke duct, just HEAT IT! Might work? Nice vid. Arthur (Ngai)
Lilly, thanx for the video. The shovel looks great. As far as the airflow in the teepee goes, I seem to remember the liner needs contact with the ground. The teepee canvas needs to be up a few inches off the ground. It's important to adjust the flaps above to have the outside breeze / wind blows across the top, drawing the smoke up and out of the top of the teepee.
We would leave the top wide open facing roughly downwind on calmer or light breeze times. Windy times the top would be more closed facing downwind again.
( Don't let these hijackers stop you from posting more survival videos).
I'm sooo happy to see a woman making survival videos lily your a bada$$! Love all the tips you're English is spot on! Don't let the haters get you down. Just let it roll off your back like a duck with water!!
in dry air, smoke goes up. In damp air, smoke goes down.
Wow, man...deep...real deep...far out...
I've always wondered why fireplaces and wood stoves are not designed to pull air from outside and not from the room. Pulling air from the room pulls in cold air from outside, making heating the room less efficient.
Many fireplaces are designed this way, and the Romans took it to extremes.
You are a very awesome woman. Thank you for being here 💛🙏🌻
PRO RAIN TIP: When installing the liner walls, add two sticks under the upper liner ties. The sticks need to run perpendicular to the teepee poles with an inch gap between them. This will allow the rain water to run down the poles and not soak the liner as it runs to the bottom of the teepee and into the drainage ditch yo dug around the base of the teepee. If you have water dripping after the installation of the sticks, adjust the sticks to allow the rain water stream to flow between the sticks.
I just got the shovel 4weeks and it is amazing and great with my cold steel srk for survival and bushcraft . Love your videos
Cold Steel is junk dude. I've never seen a single product of theres that wasn't the lowest quality Chinese pure crap. The hilarious part is their price. Resellers sell shit at 25% of the price Cold Steel list it for on their own website, and even then it's still easily six or more times the value of the object.
The mechanics and theory of your presentation have been in use by native tribal peoples from around the world for no less than 300 centuries. Various adaptations and experimental designs by them have produced varied results for those peoples that have suited well all of the innovative individuals that have used it. It has even been used by native Americans for quite a few centuries and various archaeological digs have uncovered some very effective examples. Keep experimenting with it and reap the rewards of ingenuity. By the way, placing a large flat stone partially buried in the ground facing the fire from the opposite side of the incoming air tunnel will produce an additional hot air updraft as the fire heats the stone and helps to direct air flow up and out of the air smoke/vent hole in the roof of the tepee or tent. Your videos are cool, the genuine article.
Reasons to never use poplar wood... 1. It produces very little heat. 2. It pops and throws hot particles everywhere
When setting up where it may snow it is also good to put an up pipe at the intake end of the tunnel. that way you will get an air supply when it snow.
Good work Lilly nothing but Admiration for your out door skills
That's the hard way to do it, the other way is to adjust the ear on the teepee. Located at the top adjusting it by the direction of the wind.
lol, then you would sure be busy taking the Tipi down , rotating it and building it up again, if you should that everytime the wind direction changes you basically could not do anything else. :/
@@Tarren604 didnt say take it down stupid,said adjust the top flaps,stupid
@@rodger3755 well, you clearly didnt get your medicine today, your stupid rant shows what sort if immature individual you are, you cant handle when anyone point out differences in the way a tipi is made?, you delicate little flower.. now run along so someone does not truely hurt your feelings by critisising anything that you like.
Awww come on guys and ladies she looks like she is having fun...This is the first outdoors video I have ever seen. This is what got me into the outdoors and bushcraft :)
Dug a few hundred Fox Hole with an Army E Tool, the 45 degree angle is so you can dig on your belly under fire
The air tunnel aspect is an old trick to have a smoke less fire. The fire pit must be deeper and the intake at the bottom of the pit and the exhaust at the top of the pit with the fire in-between. Build up rocks around the top edge of the pit to capture the heat. This isn't actually a smokeless fire but, when in survival mode you can build a fire with out the flames above the ground. It is the light that makes the survivor visible at night. If you are being hunted, the smoke might be smelled by hunters but, when the flame isn't visible it is really hard to track smoke.
Larry Lund About the light and smoke increasing the chance of detection: that is actually a good thing in most "civilian" survival situations, when you WANT to be detected and rescued. Good points, in any case.
It all depends on the survival situation, every one is different in some way. say for instance your area has been invaded by a foreign force you wouldn't want to be detected in that type of scenario. It's not being paranoid it's thinking through the situation you happen to find yourself in at that certain point in time. I think all replies were good.
gnarmad If you would actually read he didn't say when he's camping.He said in a survival situation if someone is hunting you.
Is what you are describing whats called a " Dakota Fire Hole "?\
It seemed to me both her holes were at the same level. I agree one should have been lower
to pull in fresh air and the upper to draw it out.
She built a dual-intake rocket stove. Were there a better way, every western Ind'n would know it.
loved the video, your energy and vibrancy is so good to see. well impressed with the shovel/multi tool.. the bits I did not like an over complicated Dakota fire pit.
Very nice, as time goes on you will prefect your teepee.. I found a 2 inch round galvanized pipe at a building that was taken down.. 9 feet long + .. Buried that, you don't want it exposed to the fire, but under it, Stone's on top of it. Galvanized pipe puts off a bad gas of it gets too hot..
The pipe deeper outside the teepee than inside, =2 inch.. Water won't run up hill.. And flood your fire, tent, or stop up the air flow/ intake air..
Once the air gap at the bottom of the tent/ teepee is sealed shut.. Air will be drawn in that through that pipe/tunnel/ trench.. whatever and it
don't take much air to keep a nice fire going.. Stone fire pit, so they get warm and hold heat to the lower part of the tent.. And your in the snoozing BUSSINESS.. Some rocks get hot and explode, so be aware of that problem.
I have one on our property, mid Atlantic east coast of the 🇺🇸.. A hunting lodge type tent,,teepee
thing.. I have to take it down these days, or its hard to say what may move in.. In cold weather, the. stone fire pit is important..
If you get slabs of rock vertical, then slabs laid on top of those horizontal, level with the floor
Making the hole for the fire in the center, smaller, now when they get hot, it stays warm at a lower level..
Spoiler: Hot air rises. Rising air pulls in cold air from outside. To make your smokeless fire, you need to have the fire burn below the exhaust chute. Once you burn it, it's not going to go DOWN to get back into the ground and go out your tunnel. I don't know why you thought you could make two of the exact same tunnel and expect them to know one was supposed to be in and the other out. :p
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It looks great, nice job, you have a great tepee shelter, your time in the woods,will be very enjoyable for sure.
I admire her willingness too get things done
We've camped in tepees since I was little and a liner is essential to getting proper draft when done right it will not be smokey inside, still like the idea.
When tying liner to poles, use 2 sticks on the inside of the pole for rope to go over so when it rains, the water will continue to run down the poles instead of getting liner wet and coming inside. The Indians figured this out centuries ago.
Do you think maybe if you created a little chimney at the end of your 'air out' pipe it might work more effectively? Another great video xxx
"xxx"? ew
The shovel is made in chyna. You can get a quality US military surplus E tool for half of what this costs.
Hi!
East of the Ural mountains smoke free tents where build during stone age and until today..
Build like you did in the video. Start a fire on the outside part of the
tunnel. Wait a bit for that fire to build a up a draft and almost go out. Then put a chimney
(from bark or hides) on the outside. Then start firing indoors.
You will suddenly have a very "modern" state of the art sort of reverse combustion and... floor heating.
Quite modern but stone age old.
They where cunning in the past too.
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drontobil well they were human. Primitive but not stupid. People then had high iqs as well. Its not like you can magically discover how to build a car in the stoneage lol.
Quite obviously, tipis were spread at least throughout the northern hemisphere. The Sami people of northern Scandinavia have propbably used them for thousands of years.
Elaina M If you live all days outside you are common to temperature and use real sheep or goat wool for feet, hands and hat.
Elaina M I think they had tipi from animal skin. That is stronger to carry the snow and maybe much more warm than cotton. The yurts are made from vilt (sheep wool) do not know the name in English. Happy new year 🎈🎈🎈
very cool!
It would be cool to see how much the temperature will rise in a 15 minute window from no fire to fire @15 minutes. Cool video!
That's a very well equipped shovel, covers multiple bases in the same device :)
Thanks for showing where you made a mistake in the building process while offering the solution as well. The shovel is very versatile as well. Great video and total support!
I bought a shovel like that. It was advertised to dig, chop, cut cotter pins and stay sharp. What a piece of garbage. It even looks, out of the package, cheap junk. The company I bought it from boasted a guarentee. HA!...They wont even respond to your correspondence, they utterly ignore you. Just a warning, be careful of whom you purchase your shovel from. If you get one.
what an awesome shovel, it reminds me of the Cold Steel shovel that Fowler used on season 3 of Alone. very cool
I'm sure you know this, but when the shovel is fixed at the 90 degree position it makes for an awesome trenching tool. I find that it makes what you were doing there much easier, but each to their own.
I love your videos, keep up the great work
The I could watch these vids all day keep up the good work Lily!!!!!
Nice video, thanks for sharing.
As others have commented a properly installed liner and flaps adjusted for the wind will give the best results to limit smoke inside the tipi, your design, in my opinion is better suited to a solid structure without openings in the roof to vent smoke, also a bigger fire means more fuel which means more work to gather and process it.
The tipi is designed for the smoke to exit through the top opening, i never start the fire inside the tipi but use coals from the outside fire pit inside a large metal coffee can with holes in the sides and bottom which i place in a hole below ground level and lined with rocks to above ground level to absorb heat while the fire is burning, i debark and dry wood by the outside fire pit and place it inside to keep it dry and ready if needed but most times i place a flat stone on top of the can to snuff the fire when i go to sleep.
Unless its raining to hard to do so i only cook outside because food odor and grease will build up inside and i would rather smell the smoke from the fire and the cedar of the tipi poles
Hi and thank you for another good product review.
I ordered one as a gift for my son's birthday.
Your intended exhaust tunnels were nothing more than intake, which is good for feeding oxygen to the fire. For starters, you need a bigger opening atop the tipi, smaller fire, smaller intake tunnels, dryer wood, etc. That shovel is cute for a 6 year old, maybe, but it wastes a ton of energy in a survival situation. Hey, you're a good sport. Very good effort.
Do you often have a full size shovel with you in survival situations? Come on man. We're talking about something you would carry in your pack just in case. Who the fuck is strapping a 5 foot shovel onto the Northface?
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And who the fuck has a dozen of roof tiles with him at any time? :D
I enjoyed your video and the spirit it was done in. I found it warm, gracious and informative. Ignore all the genius experts and their rude, unsolicited advice. Good manners disappeared with the advent of social media, and now every jerk that remains anonymous behind his keyboard unloads on strangers with brutish obstinance. Thank you for a cool video.
I agree, I applaud her for doing a video about something she is enjoying learning to do. What's with all the haters, who don't even know this girl? Why shouldn't she post what she likes on her channel? She's not commited a crime, but by some of the patronising, scornful comments she has received you would think she'd done something really dreadful.
Thanks from me too for not fruitlessly chasing perfection but for being real.
Very educational, ty and be safe always.
lilly. shorter, larger, deeper air tunnel for fire. angled fire hole facing into center of tent (keep fire mostly under ground, the heat will rise out...less sparking to burn you to death.) If you hauled all that clay and stone in, you should have brought a metal trash (small) can to put over the fire hole. It will act as a chimney and radiate heat. It is light. Further, your air tunnel can be made of lightweight plastic drainage tube or some such thing, instead of humping heavy clay. The size of the air tunnel must equal the size of the intended fire and the exhaust opening in tent, otherwise, you get smoke. There are MANY better ways to heat that tent, however, relatively cheaply/sustainably.
Finally, some constructive criticism! Thanks.
Thanks for the tip but I typically don't carry tiles with me out camping ;) The principal is good though.
Putting a fire in a teepee can be dangerous because as the fire cools off the space above cools too much for smoke to rise and go out at the top. People can die from carbon monoxide poisoning the same as in a house fire as the carbon monoxide fills the teepee.
If you want heat in the teepee it should be in a proper stove with a proper chimney. Insulation on the upper part of the chimney will help it stay warm enough to prevent the smoke from being cooled too much.
The indians didnt have any issues
I'm pretty sure that the Indians didn't have stoves and still were NOT dying of Carbon dioxide or monoxide poisoning!
John Petzold They can’t tell their story as they are no longer alive....
I have one but I'm a Native American of the Blackfeet Nation. We don't dig any trench, I noticed you didn't put up your wall until the end that should go up before any fire and the inside wall must extend a foot onto the ground so you can place items on it.
I learned some things ty for showing the air tunnel I never knew that thank you
Love your stuff, Lilly.
Practical, powerful and persistent.
Put some rabbit fence over the ends of your air tunnel so something doesn’t decide to shack up in there when you’re not around.
thanks "jeanyus", but she clearly did that in the vid. be quiet.
@Hippy Dippy Thats called dinner
Creates a vacuum effect. The heat going out top pulls in air under the skirt in traditional tipi and the fire itself will pull air through the tunnels. This also causes the smoke to go out the top too. The skirt provides wind protection and also reflec the heat of the fire back to the center
Lots of info from those who know, we all learn...Fun to watch! Ancient tiles did make me pause, your heart is pure. Be careful, good advice here! 😊 👍🏻
Lilly,Enjoying your videos tremendously. I appreciate your enthusiasm. It is contagious.Please do not take the following as a put down on your efforts. You may, however, be over thinking and consequently over engineering a basic simple design. Have you considered consulting with the plains Indians here in Canada/USA to ask them if they ever had wind tunnels in the floors of their teepees? If yes ,why? If not, why not? Perhaps managing smoke inside is a matter of manipulating the flaps or floor edges to create a better up draft? Perhaps you cannot manage it and simply have to live with it.Perhaps teepees were inherently smoky owing to traditional design flaws? I do know from historical accounts that eastern First Nations' "long house" lodgings were notoriously smoky. Naturally, this doesn't mean we cannot try to improve the situation.Concerning your draft tunnels: I can't help but worry, for your sake and that of any guests,that during long periods of sustained rain that you might experience flooding and your entire floor will become a muddy quagmire.I have seen a documentary about the reindeer people of northern Scandinavia where they use a teepee type lodging. They may have some tricks on how to deal with the issue of smoke buildup inside their lodgings.Being now retired, I have become very interested in bush craft, the notion of preparedness and maybe having to bug out at some point in the future, for whatever the reasons. People, such as you, have helped to fuel my interest and enthusiasm for these skills which may become a necessity, on very short notice, in the event of a disaster.Thanks so much and keep up your outstanding work.Leslie Robert Watts (Les ! )
As a member of both the Oglala Lakota and Cheyenne River Sioux Plains tribes I can attest that we've always had smoke problems no matter what you do with the tipi. Still have mine passed down from my family through 130yrs. The things with tipis are that we never stayed in an area for more than a week (speak for my tribes only) usually because wherever the buffalo roamed so did we. So things weren't as...permanent. I've soaked up much from my Elders and Medicine men and never have they taught me any tricks when I set it up lol. If there are I'd like to know as well. Btw cool video! Love seeing people in tune with nature.
Nate and Les,, and of course, dear Lilly,, I could not agree with you two gentleman more. My experience that taught me,,, designing an ultra efficient residence for central New Mexico,, mid 1980's. I studied and planned, read everything, calculated endlessly,,[ SMART ] after a solid week or two , I came to the conclusion that the residence needed walls 9 inches of masonry to even out the day, night, temp swings and 6 inches of fiberglass,,, and then after all that work,, a tiny light bulb went off in my head. What are the dimensions of an adobe brick? Yep ! 9 inches. The Anasazi Indians of the Southwest figured it out 2,000 years ago. The only thing I accomplished was to confirm what was known at 0 AD. I ask more questions now. [Wisdom ] [Well,, sometimes.]
I thought your video was very useful. God bless you on you adventures and for teaching other survival skills 💖🙏
I belong to a medieval society, I've helped set up many yurts and tents. You only need the pottery or fireproof piping, next to the fire. Otherwise in that we used to dig the trench and cover it with a 2x6. We would counter sync it so you could cover the dirt and the grass on top of the board. Outside was a problem because these tunnels will sometimes flood. At which point we would put another piece of pipe and cover the whole outside of it any place where water could get in with the dirt and the grass. But it was chipped out for the opening withdrawal in air feed the fire, and as long as you kept that top piece open, any smoke you have will go right out the top.
Lilly I am in Cherokee County Oklahome have had many a nights in a teepee it's the only way to camp, summer or winter no tents for me only my teepee lol . Keep up the videos Love you work & adventurous outlook.
countree boy teepee is great if you got time, should try a tarp and bivy =p i love doing a teepee if me and the wife are doing dispersed camping within a mile of the road but I'm usually too far in to pack much. Where abouts do you camp?
Lily, I admire you , such a scout.
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scout is right....boy scouts don't exist anymore.
Kubdog your just a punk that 'll never get a sweet heart like Lilly. Go back to whatever HELLHOLE you climbed out of so WE can bury yer stupid ass you punk !! Lilly Is an Angel trying to have fun & experiment. Fuckin TROLL
Can't understand why people cut bottle openers on knife blades weakening them, when you can open a bottle with a lot of things, including the back of the blade or even another bottle.
I use my teeth. All 5 of them.
Dan Slotea I can open a bottle cap with a bit lighter, been doing it for decades or on the edge of a piece of wood.
I use a flat rock edge
used to know a guy who used his teeth. Now he has none, hahhaha
if you lock that shovel at 90 degrees you can use it like a pick. Old Boy Scout trick. great video
Another great video. Thanks for taking the time.
Would it be easier to just lay a couple six-foot lengths of PVC pipe for the trench than all those heavy tiles?
i think the PVC pipes would melt :/
Umm are you stupid bro, PVC pipe is made of plastic 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I always taught the belief of the use of dead trees as firewood . The great creator provides are needs look around and give thanks. Much appreciation for ypur video .
Osiyo
I'm trying to get back to my native American roots I am a third Cherokee trying to find my lost people and who my relatives are thank you could help
So your teepee is built wrong which is why you're having a problem with smoke. You have the outer layer but are missing an inner layer. So you do not want the outer layer to reach the earth. If done correctly it should be tied to each support and making a crescent moon shape with about 5" of space in the middle & 2" at the post. On the inside you should have a second layer of canvas that goes up about 4'-6' depending on the height of the teepee (4' for your smaller teepee). The inner layer on yours would be tied 4' up and then should go down the sides tie at the bottom of the supports and then lay on the ground to make a floor. Think of a V laying on one side and going up the support. This does two things, first gets you off the dirt, and second creates a natural air vent. Also make sure your teepee is facing away from the direction of where the wind is coming (in the US & most of the world face east). This will cause the air to pull across your teepee at the top and suck the air out, pulling from the bottom of the sides creating a natural wind current that you control by how open/closed you keep the top.
I never thought of shaving a piece of kindling for tinder. Brilliant.
new subscriber here, I love the fact your using a teepee, I really like your accent, I love that shovel, and I can't wait to watch more! I found your channel from watching a couple other UA-camrs and am glad I did.
thanks for sharing the smoke vent video, this will save my lungs!
Thank you, you give me soooo many great ideas! Keep it up, Girl!!! :)
She looks like she is having alot of fun digging with that little shovel. There is something relaxing about playing with dirt.
An outside air source makes a lot of sense in an airtight building, but this tepee is open all around the bottom edge, I don't see the point of adding a tunnel to a wide open air flow.
Stops a chilly draft I suppose.
Doug Mcdonell there really isn't a need for any tunnels for extra air intake. because the tipi itself acts just like a huge air intake. the bottom of the outside cover should be raised up a little more and the inside liner should go all the way to the ground. this causes the fire to heat up the air inside the tip so it will rise and it draws in fresh smokeless air in between the liner and outside cover. also her smoke flap poles should be going around the back of the tipi, not the front. this helps you adjust to the wind direction so the wind doesn't blow the smoke back into the top of the tipi and smoke you out. you should adjust them so the smoke flaps go with the direction of the wind and it creates yet another form of draw.
You write well, but I don't think you understand what I wrote.
Hahaha, you're adding information that actually means something. I watched this video and it's so hard to take it very seriously. My problem is that I know how tipis work.
She had to use the shovel for something, it's what she gets paid for..
Do you just carry those tunnel pieces into the bush in your backpack?
@Esther Shelly, No she had them shipped by UPS
Ancestors made tubes out of tree bark.
@@jsb5188 😂
LOL!
She found those tunnel while digging on a pre historic site near the camp
I love this Lady Great video Keep Up the Awesome Work
I lived for two years in a tipi near the Idaho/Canadian border. If you leave the tipi a few inches off of the ground on the outside and put up a liner inside you should not need to dig any tunnels. Temperatures where I lived in a tipi got down to 25 degrees below zero..
Cool video! Never seen this technique before, good to know. Thank you!
I imagine all of the critical comments are from men. I could be wrong but I'll bet I'm not. Men just seem to think that survival is a man's game. Lily, I'm a man (incidentally) but I love your vids. So what if there are other ways to do things. You're doing it and I find it so much fun to watch. Good on you, Sister!
Gene Delcourt You’re wrong. I think rain is going to run down those pipes and put out her fire.
Must have been some job to pack in the drainpipes!
I don't know where you found the music for this, but it's so ridiculously perfect. I absolutely love it, it just seems to fit you so wonderfully well. Awesome video!
Great job, thanks for your hard work.
I think I will order one of those cool Tools and get a head start on my Christmas shopping. If I like it I might even get another one for a friend. :-)
i have one, it is a piece of junk.......get a folding usgi one instead........
Thanks for the warning. I found one for $60 . Ya get what ya pay for.
I'm getting one of those shovels for my car.
the army shovels have the same head style and with a pick but the new concepts is the handle and extra tools, fancy cool new toy this one !
They're called Entrenching Tools. Handy, but hard on the old back. The pick is very useful. I doubt the metal is of a similar hardness to the one in the video and wouldn't hold a good edge.
amblt1: I have had an old army entrenching tool for so many years I can't remember when I bought it. I made a new wood handle about 10 years ago because it dried out and split. I sharpen the side of the blade on occasion to cut roots as I dig. I use it in the yard all the time to plant bushes. I was so impressed when I used one in the Army to dig Fox Holes in 1958 I had to buy this one. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles the one Lilly has but it sure works to dig a small hole. Some one should show Lilly how to use it as a hoe. She is quite a gal trying to make an income on her own. Lots of U tubers do not realize this.
Toolman
“Quite a gal trying to make an income on her own”? In the modern age, MANY MANY women do that. My own wife has a Masters of Science degree and doesn’t need my money to survive.
@@totallyfrozen Yes, but you are the only one who cares what your wife does!!! I thought Toolman's comment and tone were kind and encouraging. Stop looking for things to be offended about on your wife's behalf, I am sure you can find plenty of stuff to be offended about in your own right. 😉
I agree with the last reply - from 3 years ago, the bottom edges of the tipi are way high and need to be down to the ground. Especially in cold weather.
Also, those air tunnels are a good idea to bring fresh air to the fire, but when it rains the water is going to run down the sides of your tipi and flow right down the tunnel. In addition to pegging the bottom edges of the tipi to the ground, you need to dig a trench around the outside bottom of the tent, so water flows into the trench - doesn't have to be deep - and have the trench depth increasing toward connecting radiating trenches, so that water will flow toward the connecting trenches that radiate outward and funnel the rainwater AWAY from the tipi. Otherwise you'll wake up in the morning after a rainy night and find you have a mud floor. Don't forget that in the winter, snow and sleet might melt on the outside of a tipi that has a big fire inside. So you'll get water flowing down, then freezing again - and possibly blocking your rain drainage system - so if you're camping in the spring or fall with cold snowy weather followed by warm weather you'll need to keep your drainage system clear.
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The shovel seems to be modeled after the old style Army 'intrenching tool' that we used back in the sixties/seventies when I was in Sam's Green Machine - at least the way the shovel head folds against the handle and can be positioned as a pick as well as a shovel. Ours had wooden handles and were bigger than the one your demonstrated. The gadgets in the handle are nice, just wonder if the handle can hold up to really tough digging - say a shoulder deep fighting position? ;)
Native Americans use dry wood and small fires.
[Dry wood dont smoke]
native americans are smart... white Lilly is smart in a white people way...
If she left the tepee a couple of inches off the ground and installed a liner inside on a cord that goes all the way to the ground and then some It creates a draft coming between the tepee and the liner and draws the smoke up and out the top if the wind flaps on top are positioned correctly for prevailing wind
White Lilly is welcome in my tepee anytime
that would also considerably cool the tepee.
Riiiiiight... all that totally dry wood i just see laying around in the forest every time go out. Wow i should start using it, why didn't I think of that before??
In most climates you won't find dry wood you have to let it dry out for like a year minimum, requiring a permanent settlement.
Yep she should’ve made this video a year long while she waited for the wood to dry
Thank you for posting your video. I enjoyed it very much. John.
Great until it rains.
Proudly spells "deplorable" wrong. Lmao, you folks are a hoot.
The inside liner that starts at the ground and goes about 6 feet up and around the circumference of the inside of the tipi can also help draw smoke up and out of the top. It provides an air space between the tipi wall and the liner that pulls air up creating a draft. I never had a real issue with a tipi getting to smokey. Always use good dry hardwood. My friends and I had a 20 footer that we camped in through out the year. Had some good times in that lodge. It's a remarkable structure that the Native Americans designed to perfection.
What is interesting is that other cultures around the world also have versions of the tipi. In Siberia they have one that uses covers made of pelts with fur intact that are double layered.
just use a real shovel...save about 4 hours...looks like fun either way
Real shovels add extra weight to have to lug around.
davisx2002
Real shovels are big and weigh a ton.
Probably because the TeePee.... isn't right next to ones tool shed. But located somewhere one has to lug gear to. Hence the smaller shovel. It's not the best version but got the job done.
where did she get all the heavy tiles and bricks from?
Your shovel was so durable because most good survival shovels like that are made out of Mangalloy, which is a type of metal alloy which is very resistance to bending and warping and is exactly what you want in that sort of tool. Thanks for the video! :3
Lilly... greetings from Louisiana and I wanted to tell you I really enjoyed your duck hunting video. I am a duck hunter here where I live and it's a shame you had to disable comments on those vids. Keep up the good work. :)
Congratulations on your 1M followers. I've been watching your videos for a number of years now. Job well done. You do a great job presenting and explaining the information. Looking forward to future videos. Such a good role model for young women around the world displaying confidence in all that you take on.
Whole lotta store-bought stuff for a survivalist. How far did you backpack the teepee, bricks, clays, etc.?
Amazing Lilly!, really enjoy your videos!. I want to have a place to put a tepee up like that!. So cool!.
Those small shovels are also great close quarter combat weapons.
When you absolutely, positively, got to kill every zombie in the room; accept no substitutes.
for those times when you need to defend your life by killing someone with a shovel..
boy, if i had a dollar for every time i did that...
carls apartments haha
Russian soldiers use shovels for weapons.
This woman loves showing others how to do bushcraft, and other related tasks. Enjoy the video.
Should have called this episode, "The Shovel"
When I was in the Army, we called that an entrenching tool...
... it didn't come with all that other crap though.
@@guarddog318 seriously tho, a sharp blade on the showel? Who would cut their food with a spade?
@@vestcoasttrashgnome8565, nobody. You'd use it to cut through roots, or to take someone's head off in hand-to-hand.
As eating utensils go... it wouldn't.
@@guarddog318 you have a good point there about cutting through roots, Roots are pretty much the Rebar of the nature considering how dense it can make The Ground.
She's so adorable!
You didn't actually think it was going to pull from one tunnel and go out the other did you? lol. The only way to make a teepee not have smoke is to use a draft pipe straight up through the top of the structure. Most people just stay low to the ground happy just to be out of the cold and the elements.
Do you have a man
@@jasonervin5283 Yes he does, his man is in his other hand