I followed the whole tutorial procedure but it does not read the file. To see if the problem was the SD card I tried to insert the original electribe update and in that case it reads it and shows me the current version. I think that this Hacktribe file is only good for Electribe Sample 2 and not synth version🤦♂Does anyone have another version?
@@user-vq4vp8vl8e You need the smapler firmware form the korg page, htat gets patched by hacktribe gui and that needs to be uploaded with correct paths otherwise it wont work. Please see the github documentation for this.
So this works on the non sampler E2? Any possibility of giving it the ability to do 8 bars and truly midi only tracks for sequencing external gear? Ive had mine since they were new as I owned every single electribe machine and loved them especially the emx and esx. Ive forced myself to use it as much as I can but lately Im just sick of it hoping maybe this firmware will make me wanna use it more or at least make it so it has a place in my music making setup other than sitting collecting dust.
Hey man, I followed all instructions from the linked notebook. But Sadly when I want to upload the hacked firmware, my electribe just says "Invalid file". I dont know what I did wrong :(
Korg could have really kept developing this software ,so much potential! I would have even paid for a Synth/Sampler OS Swap kind of update,the hardware is exactly the same!
I’ve installed this firmware for a month. This firmware works pretty well, with loads of features, though bugs like slice preview, sample detuned annoy. I think if there’s an update roadmap, an 8-bar loop length would be much helpful. I can imagine the constant lit 1-4 led stands for typical 1-4 bar, and flashing led represent 5-8 bar, and you can double tap to switch between 1-4 and 5-8. I don’t know how difficult this would be, but should it be done, it would be a game changer. Korg technically abandoned electribe given the firmware has not updated for nearly 6 years. We should find our own way out.
I was really excited about the E2 / ES2 when it came out. It had so much potential... but once I got details about the usage and workflow, I found it didn't work how I was hoping, and totally lost interest. It's good to see there's a modding community for it.
Yeah, I think the whole electribe series was pretty limited with the es2 as the most useful. I had every generation of them and they were at always fun.l and fast to work with. Biggest thing I see is the quantisation that can't be turned of. It would be a killer drum machine with a finer grid.
@@raise-project Yeah, they could have been much greater than they were, with a few little changes to the workflow and the details of how songs are built. It had a powerful engine and a great form factor, but also some pretty inconvenient limitations. My search for the perfect groovebox eventually led me to the Akai Force, which is basically Ableton in a box. It's Linux-based, so it's relatively easy to mod and has a pretty active modding scene. It already does most of what I want, but I'm working on adding a few little things, like rsync for easier backups, and a live midi remapper daemon. Mostly though, I love the ability to record clips real-time, tweak them if necessary, then play them into an arranger to create a song. It's a workflow which finally feels less like work and more like flow... so I've been able to create better songs in less time, compared to anything else I've tried. Of course, now that my tools aren't really holding me back, now that I got the low ceiling out of the way and have plenty of room to grow, I have to face the real challenge -- to git gud. The sky is the limit; just gotta learn to fly.
Yeah..wish someone will hack quantization...by the way volca keys can record unquantized sequences. Its possible to turn off quantize on it...may be theres a wat to implement it on e2 to.
@@ahteha8010 If I understand correctly, the E2 is built around the concept of being a step sequencer, and has the off-grid timing cues represented on a per-track basis, rather than per-step... so it may be very difficult to hack per-step timing adjustments (like a Digitakt) into it. And true free-form unquantized sequencing (like a MPC or a DAW) is probably not feasible at all. As for quick, expressive beat-making... the approach I've enjoyed most so far is sometimes called "Trik-style" drumming, after Nick Trikakis -- basically finger-drumming real-time on a bunch of pads with a quantized note-repeat. There's a demo of how it works in sonicstate's video called "NAMM 2020: Akai Force Workflows", and it's demo'd starting at around 8:50 in that video. I find I can lay down my drum parts very very quickly this way. I'll typically do a couple passes at different grid resolutions, and it makes for a nice organic feel.
@@ToyKeeper I think they are still cool for the price and you can have some serious fun. I love the export wave functionality to get into my daw easily (even better with wifisd) Besides JJOS, had a 2500 years ago, I didn´t knew akai had a modding community. I was really tempted by the MPC one for a long time but I came to the conclusion that it is to close to a daw and then again not enough of a daw to have it as primary. I went with ableton plus akai mini and a graphic tablet for know tweaking instead. It´s kind of fun especially with grid and Pigments
One function that the electribe needs is that the height of the note-keyboard affects the opening of the filter. I wish the authors of this hack would implement it.
Hi. Thanks for sharing. I am genuinely considering this firmware hack. Could I ask specifically which synth engines would I lose by doing this with my Electribe 2 blue synth version? Is there a list somewhere that compares the two electribes synth engines? I’d happily lose the drum and sample stock sounds (I too am bored and there are unpleasant sonic artifacts with them) and I’d be glad to keep the filters but I do quite like the synth engines although I’d be happy to part with some. Any help or advise would be much appreciated.
@@raise-project Amazing! Why wouldn't we wait if we waited for those korg motherf* to update the firmware for 6 years. Great news, very excited to see it working.
So I installed this one on the synth version. Now I can sample stuff but! I think I lost all the preloaded drums and sounds that were there in the synth (music production) version. Is there a way to keep the default sound library, or is there a way to get it back there?
The difference between e2 and e2s is also genre related. E2 is for EDM and e2s is more hip hop based. If there would be no hacktribe, I would definitely go with e2. But how does the hacktribe version sounds on e2s? Is it more EDM orientated?
Kind of, its synthesis vs sample, you can do great synth Hip Hop on e2 or sample based Drum n Bass on e2s :) Hacktribe is a bit in the middle but not a hybrid of the two. Weaker than the e2 in synthesis but stronger than the e2s overall maybe? (Comes without samples)
I tried to use Hacktribe with Electribe 2 (Gray version, just synth) but the console tell me "Invalid File". There is the Hacktribe for Gray version on Electribe 2??? thx
So this firmware is fit for all 4 electribe2 models? actually pretty cool because I hear a lot about this machine yet I'm not certain which model to buy, so getting *_any_* model and then flashing this firmware on it should theoretically be a better idea than just not getting anything, right? 😆
I have the sampler version... it's been gathering dust since my GAS worsened and I bought a load of Roland gear... Wouldn't mind getting back into it and this hack firmware has sparked my interest. I will research the mod but what does the software offer to the sampler version?
Feature request: Electribes sends program change messages only on one selected (called global or something like that) midi channel. Hope someday to see it can send it on every 16 channels. I have 2 other synths sequenced by electribe and only one of them switches putches when i change pattern on e2. It makes me sad)
Thomas Hermann - I’ve heard from another youtuber who did the Hacktribe that there was a latency issue. Mostly in changing perimeters and so forth. Have you discovered any latencies in Hacktribe?
I haven´t noticed this but it seems there are a few delays regarding pop up messages but tha seems to be the same as in the sampler firmware. More recent infos can be obtained form the github repo discussions.
Whoa!!! Does the hacktribe firmware address the voice stealing issue? Is there a resource to find a list of all the mods and features for the firmware? Super cool man. Electribe workflow was my favorite but sold it due to its limitations such as voice stealing, weak synth engine (to my ears) and 4 bar limit. This makes me want to buy one again.
PLSSS HELP i have gray synth!!! I installed hacktribe and everything worked, then I wanted to go back to the original version, I copied the original .vsb file into the system folder, I upgraded and rebooted. Now the original electribe writing has returned but it is as if the system is empty. When I turn it on it asks me to do the software upgrade and doesn't allow me to do anything. So i cameback to hacktribe update but i dont know how came back to original correctly
Hey, in the comments it's mentioned that the blue electribe works, in the description you mention the es2 working; so I wanted to ask: is it feasable that the red sampler could work with the firmware? would this unlock more osc and filter types for me? Thank you so much for answering
hallo. ich überlege das mir die hackersoftware aufzuspielen auf die blaue. hab da ehrlich gesagt schiss. weil ich da korg vertraue was die mir anbieten. deshalb hatte ich mir noch die rote gekauft. wie sind deine erfahrungen jetzt ein jahr später? läufts noch, oder gibt es schwierigkeiten. lg
Hi" Ich würde sagen wenn du beide hast machts noch nicht so viel Sinn. Hat schon paar nette Features wie Midi through, Effekte, Filter und mod synths aber überlegs dir. Läuft stabil, habs erst vor nem Monat wieder installiert seit Midi through kam.
Hello, Is there a way to use the sounds from the oroginal E2, Drums etc. and the new features of the hacktribe together? I was hoping that I can use my written patterns i made with the original E2 synth version with the Hacktribe OS.
When exporting chain audio from hacktribe, I found it does not save the mfx effect, this is a real problem. All sounds turn out raw and you have to add these effects to Ableton again. Does anyone know how to remove it?
This is probably a technical limitation. The master effect is more meant to be a live performance tool. I dont see this as a problem as I would replace the compressor or reverb fe anyway.
@@raise-project I just had a concept to write a turnkey song, then adjust the equalizer, compression in ableton and the song is ready, and now I have to do additional work in the program. I use hacktribe precisely as a portable music creation studio not tied to a computer)
@@jonnystales3496 You cold just record the master then but I really thin k proper mixing and mastering afterwards really make everything shine I even do the arrangement in daw. :)
Does this fix the electribes "attack bug"? If so, I really could be tempted to try this out... (Electribes "attack-bug" --> Unless EG is turned on and attack is turned to all zero, every sample is faded in for approximately 5ms. That is if EG is off you cannot replay samples with a sharp transient in the beginning. A "super punchy" Basedrum will not sound punchy at all due to this. It will sound "muffled" instead.)
Looks normal to me in the oscilloscope, with or without amp eg turned on. The kinda tinny or plasticy sound is known to come from the DA - Wandler AFAIK.
@@raise-project As far as I can tell, you cannot see this with an oscilloscope (at least until it is not of a digital storage type). You however can clearly see this in a high quality recording when zooming into the first 5ms and comparing the captured waveform with the waveform of the original sample. I never noticed a "tinny" nor a "plastic" sound. Whenever I compared the spectra of the Electribes output with the original samples spectrum it was spot on.
@@StefanFendt I eilloom into this but the audio processing should be unaltered with this hack ATM afaik. I checked with the daw oscilloscope but will investigate further like suggested.
@@StefanFendt There is definetley a difference. When I leave the amp eg off it the attack transient is faded in like you said. When turned on the sample is almost identical. But it seems to happen only for the first sound in a series of sounds?
@@raise-project Not quite. If the sample ended before being retriggered (like it is the case for nearly any percussion sound) you'll have this on every beginning of the sample. If, however, the sample did not end before being retriggered it heavily depends on the polyphonicy-setting of the Electribe (Mono1/Mono2/Poly1/Poly2) if the effect occours and/or can be heared at all.
I bought the sampler 2 when it came out. I wish I had gotten the synth version to be honest with you. Organizing and placing sounds on the Electribe is such a pain in the ass that I just use the stock sounds. I seriously have a disdain for this thing. Why do I still have it? Lmao
Synth is quite limit though. Depends on the genre. With the sampler (ht). I just uploaded a set of drum samples and then just sample my own stuff like track by track. Everything else is indeed impractical.
My patches did work but sadly with completely different instruments as all the drums and synths are gone or different. So no, your songs a lost largely. I rendered them all to waves internally to save them together with their patterns so when I switch back to synth I can theoretically load them back in.
@@raise-project but if a patch has sequenced leads and synths such as the CRIM3S patch, would the general tracks still stay, even if I changed the samples
im curious if anyone has done this on the blue model, every thread ive read is someone saying they bricked it im just wondering if anyone has done this successfully on the blue model.
ok i mean i have everything done one step away from hitting the button ill ask there see if maybe korg thru in some security for the mk2s so you couldn't do that
The blue one seems to be confirmed working. If you want to flash it mainly for the fm you re better of with orignal firmware and volca fm (way more options/powerful).
@@raise-project If I understand it right, it would merge both Electribe functions into one? I'm interested in the E2 synth version but the possibility to play some samples and use them with the E2 filters would be really amazing and fully matching my expectations... If yes, did you notice any setback like less polyphony or anything similar? (Disclaimer: Forgive my stupid questions, I don't have the device yet but I'll get one about Christmas but I'm very interested because I couldn't really decide between E2 and E2S).
@@Tmoussy In short, I think the e2sampler is more versatile. Go for the original sampler and use it a while and then maybe later switch to the mod firmware for additional filters and synth engines etc. No drawbacks on voices etc afaik.
@@raise-project Thanks a lot for your feedback, you use a grey E2 for your demo, is there no difference with the hack? I only found that the E2S firmware shall be patched but not that it shall be flashed on a E2S only, am I right?
@@Tmoussy Now Im confused. You can use that mod on both. The synth version looses its synths and pcm instruments and gaines sampling/2synth/effects. The Sampler gains the synth filters and two synth engines.
@@raise-project Hi I manage to install firmware. Everything work except "e2sSample.all". When I import samples from 501 position works great, but when I turn off and turn back again unit, samples just gone.
@@raise-project Hi Thomas. First at all, thanks for response. Do I need install "hacktribe-blank-e2sSample.all" first and then my sample bank? Where to find manual, to see how to save imported samples.
Another important improvement would be that the release would still work with the envelope 'off'. It's hard to make proper pads like sounds without that possibility. …or better, change the behavior of the Decay/Release control so that in the first half of its travel it works as Decay (without sustain) and in the second half as Release (from the moment the note is released).
There are soo many things one could wish for. Finer grid, proper ADSR, all 4 osc settings, additional IFX settings, led chromatic keyboard etc. Its best to just list them in the git discussions. We will see whats possible in the end.
Quick question for you. I had my buddy that's a programmer, do the install. It's great, but all the samples disappear once I turn the electibe off. Any idea what I'm missing?
There are q couple of different tutorial videos, a jupyter playbook, the written steps in the git repo and some even host ready made files. github.com/bangcorrupt/hacktribe/wiki/how-to#firmware-patch
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Are you tempted to try this out? Did you modded it succesfully? Tutorial Video released on the channel!
I followed the whole tutorial procedure but it does not read the file. To see if the problem was the SD card I tried to insert the original electribe update and in that case it reads it and shows me the current version. I think that this Hacktribe file is only good for Electribe Sample 2 and not synth version🤦♂Does anyone have another version?
@@user-vq4vp8vl8e You need the smapler firmware form the korg page, htat gets patched by hacktribe gui and that needs to be uploaded with correct paths otherwise it wont work.
Please see the github documentation for this.
So this works on the non sampler E2?
Any possibility of giving it the ability to do 8 bars and truly midi only tracks for sequencing external gear?
Ive had mine since they were new as I owned every single electribe machine and loved them especially the emx and esx. Ive forced myself to use it as much as I can but lately Im just sick of it hoping maybe this firmware will make me wanna use it more or at least make it so it has a place in my music making setup other than sitting collecting dust.
@@666nacirema666 Yes it does.
Not sure about 8 bars but you can ask bangcorrupt in the github discussion at any time.
Hey man, I followed all instructions from the linked notebook. But Sadly when I want to upload the hacked firmware, my electribe just says "Invalid file". I dont know what I did wrong :(
Korg could have really kept developing this software ,so much potential!
I would have even paid for a Synth/Sampler OS Swap kind of update,the hardware is exactly the same!
I’ve installed this firmware for a month. This firmware works pretty well, with loads of features, though bugs like slice preview, sample detuned annoy.
I think if there’s an update roadmap, an 8-bar loop length would be much helpful. I can imagine the constant lit 1-4 led stands for typical 1-4 bar, and flashing led represent 5-8 bar, and you can double tap to switch between 1-4 and 5-8. I don’t know how difficult this would be, but should it be done, it would be a game changer.
Korg technically abandoned electribe given the firmware has not updated for nearly 6 years. We should find our own way out.
You can sample with the non-sample version?
Amazing - got this working on my Electribe sampler with samples and also osc’s and the filters from the synth engine.
I was really excited about the E2 / ES2 when it came out. It had so much potential... but once I got details about the usage and workflow, I found it didn't work how I was hoping, and totally lost interest. It's good to see there's a modding community for it.
Yeah, I think the whole electribe series was pretty limited with the es2 as the most useful. I had every generation of them and they were at always fun.l and fast to work with. Biggest thing I see is the quantisation that can't be turned of. It would be a killer drum machine with a finer grid.
@@raise-project Yeah, they could have been much greater than they were, with a few little changes to the workflow and the details of how songs are built. It had a powerful engine and a great form factor, but also some pretty inconvenient limitations.
My search for the perfect groovebox eventually led me to the Akai Force, which is basically Ableton in a box. It's Linux-based, so it's relatively easy to mod and has a pretty active modding scene. It already does most of what I want, but I'm working on adding a few little things, like rsync for easier backups, and a live midi remapper daemon. Mostly though, I love the ability to record clips real-time, tweak them if necessary, then play them into an arranger to create a song. It's a workflow which finally feels less like work and more like flow... so I've been able to create better songs in less time, compared to anything else I've tried.
Of course, now that my tools aren't really holding me back, now that I got the low ceiling out of the way and have plenty of room to grow, I have to face the real challenge -- to git gud. The sky is the limit; just gotta learn to fly.
Yeah..wish someone will hack quantization...by the way volca keys can record unquantized sequences. Its possible to turn off quantize on it...may be theres a wat to implement it on e2 to.
@@ahteha8010 If I understand correctly, the E2 is built around the concept of being a step sequencer, and has the off-grid timing cues represented on a per-track basis, rather than per-step... so it may be very difficult to hack per-step timing adjustments (like a Digitakt) into it. And true free-form unquantized sequencing (like a MPC or a DAW) is probably not feasible at all.
As for quick, expressive beat-making... the approach I've enjoyed most so far is sometimes called "Trik-style" drumming, after Nick Trikakis -- basically finger-drumming real-time on a bunch of pads with a quantized note-repeat. There's a demo of how it works in sonicstate's video called "NAMM 2020: Akai Force Workflows", and it's demo'd starting at around 8:50 in that video. I find I can lay down my drum parts very very quickly this way. I'll typically do a couple passes at different grid resolutions, and it makes for a nice organic feel.
@@ToyKeeper I think they are still cool for the price and you can have some serious fun. I love the export wave functionality to get into my daw easily (even better with wifisd)
Besides JJOS, had a 2500 years ago, I didn´t knew akai had a modding community. I was really tempted by the MPC one for a long time but I came to the conclusion that it is to close to a daw and then again not enough of a daw to have it as primary. I went with ableton plus akai mini and a graphic tablet for know tweaking instead. It´s kind of fun especially with grid and Pigments
Wow this is super cool!! I wish Korg would have released something similar and official..
Right? I was surprised to find this too. Korg could have just made an official swap os instead of blocking it.
One function that the electribe needs is that the height of the note-keyboard affects the opening of the filter.
I wish the authors of this hack would implement it.
wow, harsh FM is possible! I will try this on my ES2 at some point...
That is fantastic!!!
Finally ,,Update,, ;)
Wonder if price will rise up.
Hi. Thanks for sharing. I am genuinely considering this firmware hack. Could I ask specifically which synth engines would I lose by doing this with my Electribe 2 blue synth version? Is there a list somewhere that compares the two electribes synth engines? I’d happily lose the drum and sample stock sounds (I too am bored and there are unpleasant sonic artifacts with them) and I’d be glad to keep the filters but I do quite like the synth engines although I’d be happy to part with some. Any help or advise would be much appreciated.
Check the notion link in the description, theres a table on the bottom now with all the hacktribe synths.
Perfect. Thanks again.
I'm grateful that someone is representing abandoned korg users. I wish I knew python to hack this.
You don´t need to know python to apply the hack. There will be a graphical tool soon for that if you can wait a while.
@@raise-project Amazing! Why wouldn't we wait if we waited for those korg motherf* to update the firmware for 6 years. Great news, very excited to see it working.
So I installed this one on the synth version. Now I can sample stuff but! I think I lost all the preloaded drums and sounds that were there in the synth (music production) version.
Is there a way to keep the default sound library, or is there a way to get it back there?
Not yet but eventually is planned by bangcorrupt. There is a repacement "factory" soundset to get you started in contents.
Hey Thomas, thanks for putting this video together! have you had any luck reinstalling the original firmware?
Gern, I flashed the original synth firmware once and it worked without problems including all the synth drums sounds etc.
The difference between e2 and e2s is also genre related. E2 is for EDM and e2s is more hip hop based. If there would be no hacktribe, I would definitely go with e2. But how does the hacktribe version sounds on e2s? Is it more EDM orientated?
Kind of, its synthesis vs sample, you can do great synth Hip Hop on e2 or sample based Drum n Bass on e2s :)
Hacktribe is a bit in the middle but not a hybrid of the two. Weaker than the e2 in synthesis but stronger than the e2s overall maybe? (Comes without samples)
I tried to use Hacktribe with Electribe 2 (Gray version, just synth) but the console tell me "Invalid File". There is the Hacktribe for Gray version on Electribe 2??? thx
Do you think it might differ somehow whether applied to the Synth or to the Sampler, also in terms of bricking risk? And what about DSC performances?
Both the same. No problems with DSP load.
So this firmware is fit for all 4 electribe2 models? actually pretty cool because I hear a lot about this machine yet I'm not certain which model to buy, so getting *_any_* model and then flashing this firmware on it should theoretically be a better idea than just not getting anything, right? 😆
I have the sampler version... it's been gathering dust since my GAS worsened and I bought a load of Roland gear... Wouldn't mind getting back into it and this hack firmware has sparked my interest.
I will research the mod but what does the software offer to the sampler version?
Quite a few things. My personal favorite is midi trough :)
github.com/bangcorrupt/hacktribe#features
Feature request:
Electribes sends program change messages only on one selected (called global or something like that) midi channel.
Hope someday to see it can send it on every 16 channels.
I have 2 other synths sequenced by electribe and only one of them switches putches when i change pattern on e2. It makes me sad)
Thomas Hermann - I’ve heard from another youtuber who did the Hacktribe that there was a latency issue. Mostly in changing perimeters and so forth. Have you discovered any latencies in Hacktribe?
I haven´t noticed this but it seems there are a few delays regarding pop up messages but tha seems to be the same as in the sampler firmware. More recent infos can be obtained form the github repo discussions.
Whoa!!! Does the hacktribe firmware address the voice stealing issue? Is there a resource to find a list of all the mods and features for the firmware? Super cool man. Electribe workflow was my favorite but sold it due to its limitations such as voice stealing, weak synth engine (to my ears) and 4 bar limit. This makes me want to buy one again.
Most of it is still there but you might chek the git repo for the currently available and future features.
Would love to see an installation guide video.
ua-cam.com/video/x6al8AWddIg/v-deo.html
I expected a decent digital editor on release as was shocked there wasnt one
True but I do like the two options available. There is even slice editing and stuff. :)
PLSSS HELP i have gray synth!!! I installed hacktribe and everything worked, then I wanted to go back to the original version, I copied the original .vsb file into the system folder, I upgraded and rebooted. Now the original electribe writing has returned but it is as if the system is empty. When I turn it on it asks me to do the software upgrade and doesn't allow me to do anything. So i cameback to hacktribe update but i dont know how came back to original correctly
Sorry I can´t help you with that. Best address is the git repo. github.com/bangcorrupt/hacktribe/wiki/faq
Hey, in the comments it's mentioned that the blue electribe works, in the description you mention the es2 working; so I wanted to ask: is it feasable that the red sampler could work with the firmware? would this unlock more osc and filter types for me? Thank you so much for answering
Hey! Should work afaik. There is a list of the oscs in the description link + the synth filters are available with the hack.
Hello.. which are the steps for installing in grey version of E2
The same as in the github documentation.
github.com/bangcorrupt/hacktribe/wiki/how-to#firmware-patch
Hi I have a question, would you recommend the update for the red electribe 2? And when I do the update then all samples are gone? Best regards
Yes the samples are gone. It depends on many things. Just check the documentatio in the repo and see if the features are of more use in your case.
on E2 blue synth the 55 factory oscillators remain?
is it possible upload 999 samples like on E2 sampler?
Hi! Its mentioned on the Github page. Fewer synths, same filters, more ifx, around 500 samples currently.
hallo. ich überlege das mir die hackersoftware aufzuspielen auf die blaue. hab da ehrlich gesagt schiss. weil ich da korg vertraue was die mir anbieten. deshalb hatte ich mir noch die rote gekauft. wie sind deine erfahrungen jetzt ein jahr später? läufts noch, oder gibt es schwierigkeiten. lg
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Ich würde sagen wenn du beide hast machts noch nicht so viel Sinn. Hat schon paar nette Features wie Midi through, Effekte, Filter und mod synths aber überlegs dir.
Läuft stabil, habs erst vor nem Monat wieder installiert seit Midi through kam.
Hello, Is there a way to use the sounds from the oroginal E2, Drums etc. and the new features of the hacktribe together? I was hoping that I can use my written patterns i made with the original E2 synth version with the Hacktribe OS.
Tha tis not possible as you basically got the sampler now.
@@raise-project Thank you! Is there a way to change back to the original Synth OS?
@@uetboq2966 Yes, I reverted using the GUI application but it can be done without. Check out the discussion and wikis in the git repo :)
@@raise-project Hi! please explain to me, how to revert (the e2 grey version) to original firmware using the GUI application..thanks!
When exporting chain audio from hacktribe, I found it does not save the mfx effect, this is a real problem. All sounds turn out raw and you have to add these effects to Ableton again. Does anyone know how to remove it?
This is probably a technical limitation. The master effect is more meant to be a live performance tool. I dont see this as a problem as I would replace the compressor or reverb fe anyway.
@@raise-project I just had a concept to write a turnkey song, then adjust the equalizer, compression in ableton and the song is ready, and now I have to do additional work in the program. I use hacktribe precisely as a portable music creation studio not tied to a computer)
@@jonnystales3496 You cold just record the master then but I really thin k proper mixing and mastering afterwards really make everything shine I even do the arrangement in daw. :)
do you keep all the stock sounds of the blue electribe?
All gone, same for sampler but I think its been worked on to solve this in different ways.
Does this fix the electribes "attack bug"?
If so, I really could be tempted to try this out...
(Electribes "attack-bug" --> Unless EG is turned on and attack is turned to all zero, every sample is faded in for approximately 5ms. That is if EG is off you cannot replay samples with a sharp transient in the beginning. A "super punchy" Basedrum will not sound punchy at all due to this. It will sound "muffled" instead.)
Looks normal to me in the oscilloscope, with or without amp eg turned on. The kinda tinny or plasticy sound is known to come from the DA - Wandler AFAIK.
@@raise-project As far as I can tell, you cannot see this with an oscilloscope (at least until it is not of a digital storage type). You however can clearly see this in a high quality recording when zooming into the first 5ms and comparing the captured waveform with the waveform of the original sample.
I never noticed a "tinny" nor a "plastic" sound. Whenever I compared the spectra of the Electribes output with the original samples spectrum it was spot on.
@@StefanFendt I eilloom into this but the audio processing should be unaltered with this hack ATM afaik. I checked with the daw oscilloscope but will investigate further like suggested.
@@StefanFendt There is definetley a difference. When I leave the amp eg off it the attack transient is faded in like you said. When turned on the sample is almost identical. But it seems to happen only for the first sound in a series of sounds?
@@raise-project Not quite. If the sample ended before being retriggered (like it is the case for nearly any percussion sound) you'll have this on every beginning of the sample. If, however, the sample did not end before being retriggered it heavily depends on the polyphonicy-setting of the Electribe (Mono1/Mono2/Poly1/Poly2) if the effect occours and/or can be heared at all.
I bought the sampler 2 when it came out. I wish I had gotten the synth version to be honest with you.
Organizing and placing sounds on the Electribe is such a pain in the ass that I just use the stock sounds.
I seriously have a disdain for this thing. Why do I still have it? Lmao
Synth is quite limit though. Depends on the genre. With the sampler (ht). I just uploaded a set of drum samples and then just sample my own stuff like track by track. Everything else is indeed impractical.
Please, please, please release a firmware update for first gen Electribe! Still have mine after 25+ years.
The black Em1? Sold mine long ago. EMX was great.
Doubt there can be done anything. I just made hacktribe public (video) after testing :)
If I hacked my E2S, would the hack make it possible for me to use patterns / patches from the original synth version.
My patches did work but sadly with completely different instruments as all the drums and synths are gone or different. So no, your songs a lost largely. I rendered them all to waves internally to save them together with their patterns so when I switch back to synth I can theoretically load them back in.
@@raise-project but if a patch has sequenced leads and synths such as the CRIM3S patch, would the general tracks still stay, even if I changed the samples
@@CE_LESTIA Yes the midi data is still there but you have to reconstruct the synth patch with what you have.
What is this about sampling. Is it stereo? how long ins the sampling time? How is the sampling workflow. I think sampling is the most interesting part
It's the same as in the original sampler version.
Sre the sampling features same as the Sampler version?
Yes, I think so.
@Thomas Herrmann does it still export Audio?
@@BrancoArgenta Yes it does as far as I can remember.
Hello need ask if i do hacktribe in esx 2 red... did still be there resampling mode? Thx for answer to anybody and wish good night :)
Should be, its everything the original sampler had and more.
@@raise-project okay much thanks for know.
Amazing
im curious if anyone has done this on the blue model, every thread ive read is someone saying they bricked it im just wondering if anyone has done this successfully on the blue model.
That maybe a good question for the github issues. Afaik bangcorrupz has multiple tribes and it worked but not sure.
ok i mean i have everything done one step away from hitting the button ill ask there see if maybe korg thru in some security for the mk2s so you couldn't do that
@@grad13nt1 A good card and always remove it safe from the pc and the regular good practices might reduce the risk.
wow!!!! thats interesting...
can it sample from audio in?
Yes :)
This looks cool but have the blue one and worried I might brick it! I will probably stick with having the volca FM coming into the audio in...!
The blue one seems to be confirmed working. If you want to flash it mainly for the fm you re better of with orignal firmware and volca fm (way more options/powerful).
hey! you didn't show the new sampling function! :) also, should it work with the blue e2s too?
Forgot to record but its the same as with the sampler :) . Afaik works with all e2.
@@raise-project If I understand it right, it would merge both Electribe functions into one? I'm interested in the E2 synth version but the possibility to play some samples and use them with the E2 filters would be really amazing and fully matching my expectations...
If yes, did you notice any setback like less polyphony or anything similar?
(Disclaimer: Forgive my stupid questions, I don't have the device yet but I'll get one about Christmas but I'm very interested because I couldn't really decide between E2 and E2S).
@@Tmoussy In short, I think the e2sampler is more versatile. Go for the original sampler and use it a while and then maybe later switch to the mod firmware for additional filters and synth engines etc. No drawbacks on voices etc afaik.
@@raise-project Thanks a lot for your feedback, you use a grey E2 for your demo, is there no difference with the hack?
I only found that the E2S firmware shall be patched but not that it shall be flashed on a E2S only, am I right?
@@Tmoussy Now Im confused. You can use that mod on both. The synth version looses its synths and pcm instruments and gaines sampling/2synth/effects. The Sampler gains the synth filters and two synth engines.
FM? What?? it's possible?
Yes, a very simple version of course.
@@raise-project thanks !
Am i stupid or what ?
This "tutorial" is not tutorial at all.
Any chance for normal video tutorial.
Thanks
Thats just the presentation. The tutorial is a different video :)
@@raise-project Hi
I manage to install firmware. Everything work except "e2sSample.all". When I import samples from 501 position works great, but when I turn off and turn back again unit, samples just gone.
@@rankovsrdjan You need to save your imported samples afterwards as written in the manual.
@@raise-project
Hi Thomas.
First at all, thanks for response.
Do I need install "hacktribe-blank-e2sSample.all" first and then my sample bank?
Where to find manual, to see how to save imported samples.
When I try to Export all samples, I got "Error, Card Error"
Another important improvement would be that the release would still work with the envelope 'off'.
It's hard to make proper pads like sounds without that possibility.
…or better, change the behavior of the Decay/Release control so that in the first half of its travel it works as Decay (without sustain) and in the second half as Release (from the moment the note is released).
There are soo many things one could wish for. Finer grid, proper ADSR, all 4 osc settings, additional IFX settings, led chromatic keyboard etc. Its best to just list them in the git discussions. We will see whats possible in the end.
I wish I wasn't a complete idiot and could figure out how to do this. Is there a tutorial vid even an idiot could follow.
The gui installer may be your best bet but if you are unsure you better not attempt this hack. You might brick your device.
Quick question for you. I had my buddy that's a programmer, do the install. It's great, but all the samples disappear once I turn the electibe off. Any idea what I'm missing?
@@diaryofanolddad Cool!
Yeah thats normal, you have to write them to disk when you are done. Should be in the normal sampler manual.
how you instal it,this is much important,becous its no one has a tuttorial movie how you must do this.its not so easy.
There are q couple of different tutorial videos, a jupyter playbook, the written steps in the git repo and some even host ready made files. github.com/bangcorrupt/hacktribe/wiki/how-to#firmware-patch