I love that you decided to do Shelob. If you have a chance I’d be interested in seeing your take on The Watcher in the Water. You’re the only content creator I’ve seen whose even mentioned the card, let alone acknowledge it’s potential.
@@davestier6247 I made this comment over 2 weeks ago, and at the time the statement was true. I’m sure quite a few content creators have talked about The Watcher since then.
Built a Shelob deck for my Fiancé for Christmas this year to introduce them further into the world of MTG. So happy to see this vid to know I was heading in the right direction. Super helpful!!! Also kicking myself knowing how much my Jeweled Lotus' are worth today since I last paused playing the game. Still though, their not for sell. Thanks for the awesome channel.
I woukd like to also have everyone keep in mind Shelob will make the food of your own creature add devoted Druid and a way to give flying by equipment and now you have infinite green mana just some other options to use Shelob’s ability. assault formation is a good include into any spider deck allowing your spider to use toughness to deal combat damage
Why would the food token need flying? It's not a creature, it can have millions of -1/-1 counters on it. The only thing you need to do is ping one damage to it or have the druid fight one of your own spiders and you have infinite mana already.
@@rey_nemaattori before it becomes the food ping it as the creature with spitting or silk lash spider it’s been the easiest way I’ve found for your own spiders to kill your own creatures
Probably this is one of the most underrated budget deck i ever seen. Really a budget/performance beast, i got all the cards for 20 dollars and i'm having great fun
I was hoping to see Fynn on the list! Happy to see him. If I may, you speak very fast, not easy sometimes to get what you say (as a non English native speaker). Thanks for this content, want more 😊
What about including Hooded Blightfang? A 1/4 Snake with: "Deadthtouch// Whenever a cxreature you control with deathtouch attacs, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. // Whenever a creature you control sith deadthtouch deals damage to a planeswalker, destroy that planeswalker"
LOTR is one of my all time fav franchises & when I heard my fav character Shelob was going to be in the set I decided it was time for me to get into MTG. Can't wait to build a deck off her & really see the range she'll have
I'm still pretty new to magic and was looking into starting a spider tribal deck, but non of the commanders available really spoke to me. The deck also ended up being way more expensive than I hoped for it to be. I ways able all the cards for only 35 bucks! I'm really looking forward to it! Thanks fir the video
I built a deck with basically all of these tactics on Archdekt when I first found out this card, thanks to this video I found some more cards to improve the strategy lol
On top of Shelob being a good commander to swap out my Ishkanah in my Spider Tribal deck, I love how she also manages to replace my Archetype of Finality by giving my spiders deathtouch, but now with extras!
I started playing MTG back in 2012, spiders are what got me into it. Back then there wasn't much but I remember buying a lot on ebay that came with a playset of at least 10 different spiders (these were my first cards/deck). I've always played spiders in some way shape or form ever since (knowing they weren't good) and when Ishkanah came out I was so happy to have a legendary spider. Comboing her with Ashnod's Altar and Nim Deathmantle to wipe the table with her A.A. has to be the most satisfying win for me. I was so upset with Thantis being non-spider centered and Arasta being monogreen, then another Ishkanah was mad only to be exclusive on MTG Arena...smh (Was also hoping Lolth was going to be a creature but 🤷♂). I started settling for insects since they've been getting love lately but now we finally have a good spider commander that actually has a fun thematic playstyle. I already have most of everything I needed to make her and bought some other stuff to go in. Zask, Skittering Swarmlord will have to wait now lol
Great deck list Mitch! Lolth, spider queen is a 5 mana black planeswalker would def be a reasonable upgrade. A fun card I enjoy playing in any aristocrats deck but would be really good here with the spider synergy and Well worth the $5 I think it’s now dropped down too… Did not need another commander deck to build but if I crack her might not be able to resist…. Haha
I’m really excited for Spider payoffs, but this Commander also makes me interested in FOOD! Eldraine Limited staples like Savvy Hunter, Trail of Crumbs, Gilded Goose and Feasting Troll King are all here to bolster the usefulness of our helpless “Food” prey!
I’m most excited about pinging my own Devoted Druid or Wall of Roots with a Viridian Bow or some garbage to make it a Food and give myself infinite green mana
@@itslexactually If you are mostly interested in pinging your own things, may i suggest a look at Myrkul! being 1 extra mana, this guy makes your own dying things into sturdy enchantments, gives you another color to work with and can still steal some of your opponents things through cards like athreos, the new gisa or thieving amalgam!
I would add Deadly Dispute or any of the Village Rite effects that let you sac artifacts rather than pure Village Rites since the food tokens you create from Shelob are all artifacts that you may want to sac instead of a creature that you need.
ordering all of these cards from tcg player in moderate or higher was just about 100 bucks with shipping included (u.s. shipping) . I just received and sleeved all the cards and i'm excited to try this deck out the next time i play!!! Thanks for the video as always!
I would love if the set had a bit more cards to support extra commanders. I would really like to make a group with commander decks having cards only from the set to be in the theme of playing lord of the rings.
I've been playing spider tribal with Ishkanah for a while now, and told myself "imma wait for arachnogenesis to come down in price someday" cause 30$ seemed like alot. SInce this was announced, arachnogenesis has gone up to like 60$ ☠️💀💀☠️☠️💀
Do you think Shelob, Dread Weaver would be good to slot in anywhere in this deck? I've been wanting to make a deck around spider for a while and wanted to ask and say thanks for the help on this one!
Was trying to make a spider deck in arena, is there a reason that like half the cards mentioned aren’t in arena? Did they just not bother to add them, or something?
Yeah, but having cool interactions that have flavor is great instead. If we were just filling text without flavor then I am with you on your original comment.
Weird not to see thornbite staff mentioned on this. The same as the bow mentioned but also u taps the creature when something dies turns any deathtouch in to a board wipe
Why does it boost OTHER spiders when there are only ONE other spider in the entire forgotten realms SET?! (and that spider already has deathtouch to begin with)
I mean fighting or pinging for one, your own platinum angel is pretty funny. I cant lose you cant win on an artifact, that i can sacrifice for 3, hilarious.
Most of the LOtR Cards are just busted as fuck, but thats how WotC just is these days. GEtting people to buy new cards has priority over keeping some illusion of balance
So are the tokens you make creatures, foods or both? Normally it'd say "in addition to its other types". Thematically I understand why it makes food artifacts but it'd be nice to be able to attack with the tokens. Really nice with archanogenesis
2:46 First up, of course!
Have a safe weekend, and may your spiders be extra tasty!
I love that you decided to do Shelob. If you have a chance I’d be interested in seeing your take on The Watcher in the Water. You’re the only content creator I’ve seen whose even mentioned the card, let alone acknowledge it’s potential.
@@davestier6247 I made this comment over 2 weeks ago, and at the time the statement was true. I’m sure quite a few content creators have talked about The Watcher since then.
Built a Shelob deck for my Fiancé for Christmas this year to introduce them further into the world of MTG. So happy to see this vid to know I was heading in the right direction. Super helpful!!! Also kicking myself knowing how much my Jeweled Lotus' are worth today since I last paused playing the game. Still though, their not for sell. Thanks for the awesome channel.
I’ve been wanting to make a spider tribal deck for a while im glad I waited for this commander it looks fun!
Arachnogenesis desperately needs a reprint.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks so!
Agreed.
aaaand its getting one. whoooooo
@@maximillionchaoswolf ARE YOU SERIOUS?! When?! Where?!
@@zacharyjoy8724 In Commander Masters
I woukd like to also have everyone keep in mind Shelob will make the food of your own creature add devoted Druid and a way to give flying by equipment and now you have infinite green mana just some other options to use Shelob’s ability. assault formation is a good include into any spider deck allowing your spider to use toughness to deal combat damage
Why would the food token need flying?
It's not a creature, it can have millions of -1/-1 counters on it.
The only thing you need to do is ping one damage to it or have the druid fight one of your own spiders and you have infinite mana already.
@@rey_nemaattori before it becomes the food ping it as the creature with spitting or silk lash spider it’s been the easiest way I’ve found for your own spiders to kill your own creatures
but bro, its a food token AND a copy of the creature so it will die lol
@@rafaelaraujo6113it becomes a copy of a creature that becomes a food artifact token and loses all other card types
Probably this is one of the most underrated budget deck i ever seen. Really a budget/performance beast, i got all the cards for 20 dollars and i'm having great fun
I have been waiting for this one
I was hoping to see Fynn on the list! Happy to see him.
If I may, you speak very fast, not easy sometimes to get what you say (as a non English native speaker).
Thanks for this content, want more 😊
What about including Hooded Blightfang? A 1/4 Snake with: "Deadthtouch// Whenever a cxreature you control with deathtouch attacs, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. // Whenever a creature you control sith deadthtouch deals damage to a planeswalker, destroy that planeswalker"
LOTR is one of my all time fav franchises & when I heard my fav character Shelob was going to be in the set I decided it was time for me to get into MTG. Can't wait to build a deck off her & really see the range she'll have
Have 8 nazguls, all witch kings, shelob. I'm like 12 cards away from collecting all cards in the base set.
I'm still pretty new to magic and was looking into starting a spider tribal deck, but non of the commanders available really spoke to me. The deck also ended up being way more expensive than I hoped for it to be. I ways able all the cards for only 35 bucks! I'm really looking forward to it! Thanks fir the video
I built a deck with basically all of these tactics on Archdekt when I first found out this card, thanks to this video I found some more cards to improve the strategy lol
On top of Shelob being a good commander to swap out my Ishkanah in my Spider Tribal deck, I love how she also manages to replace my Archetype of Finality by giving my spiders deathtouch, but now with extras!
Could you please do an upgrade tier to add on cards out of your budget?
I second this please
I third this please!
Forth, fifth..
I started playing MTG back in 2012, spiders are what got me into it. Back then there wasn't much but I remember buying a lot on ebay that came with a playset of at least 10 different spiders (these were my first cards/deck). I've always played spiders in some way shape or form ever since (knowing they weren't good) and when Ishkanah came out I was so happy to have a legendary spider. Comboing her with Ashnod's Altar and Nim Deathmantle to wipe the table with her A.A. has to be the most satisfying win for me. I was so upset with Thantis being non-spider centered and Arasta being monogreen, then another Ishkanah was mad only to be exclusive on MTG Arena...smh (Was also hoping Lolth was going to be a creature but 🤷♂). I started settling for insects since they've been getting love lately but now we finally have a good spider commander that actually has a fun thematic playstyle. I already have most of everything I needed to make her and bought some other stuff to go in. Zask, Skittering Swarmlord will have to wait now lol
I only make tribal decks so deck techs and spoilers like these always excite me!
Great deck list Mitch!
Lolth, spider queen is a 5 mana black planeswalker would def be a reasonable upgrade. A fun card I enjoy playing in any aristocrats deck but would be really good here with the spider synergy and Well worth the $5 I think it’s now dropped down too…
Did not need another commander deck to build but if I crack her might not be able to resist…. Haha
I'm excited to build a deck with this one
I'm personally a fan of doubling down on the food theme. Shelob's kitchen is open and ready for guests!
if u want a good improve, add ishkana, grafwidow
I’m really excited for Spider payoffs, but this Commander also makes me interested in FOOD! Eldraine Limited staples like Savvy Hunter, Trail of Crumbs, Gilded Goose and Feasting Troll King are all here to bolster the usefulness of our helpless “Food” prey!
Don't forget we are coming back to eldraine soon! Also you can use weird tactics to make non creatures into food.
I’m most excited about pinging my own Devoted Druid or Wall of Roots with a Viridian Bow or some garbage to make it a Food and give myself infinite green mana
@@itslexactually If you are mostly interested in pinging your own things, may i suggest a look at Myrkul! being 1 extra mana, this guy makes your own dying things into sturdy enchantments, gives you another color to work with and can still steal some of your opponents things through cards like athreos, the new gisa or thieving amalgam!
I would add Deadly Dispute or any of the Village Rite effects that let you sac artifacts rather than pure Village Rites since the food tokens you create from Shelob are all artifacts that you may want to sac instead of a creature that you need.
ordering all of these cards from tcg player in moderate or higher was just about 100 bucks with shipping included (u.s. shipping) . I just received and sleeved all the cards and i'm excited to try this deck out the next time i play!!! Thanks for the video as always!
Built this deck the second it was spoiled. Got a cheap arachnogenisis before it spiked and turned my questing beast fighting deck into it
I was just planning on building one myself!
This shelob really was a power house in my pre release deck. I'm gonna score a foil version of it for later for spider tribal.
Spider tribal after years of wishing for a commander that fits my playstyle
I would love if the set had a bit more cards to support extra commanders. I would really like to make a group with commander decks having cards only from the set to be in the theme of playing lord of the rings.
As soon as I saw this card I thought of my thantis the warweaver deck
Playing this on Arena in Historic Brawl for testing very fun, can't wait to build it in paper for EDH. IMO more fun than Myrkul
I knew Arasta would get the GP spot.
Ive been into spiders ever since Ishkana! Lovin me some Shelob!
Nice video dude. Piece of good work. I'm waiting for a upgrade version.
Altar of baal and monster manual are the two best G/B cards in my opinion for creature/tokens/reanimator decks
I've been playing spider tribal with Ishkanah for a while now, and told myself "imma wait for arachnogenesis to come down in price someday" cause 30$ seemed like alot. SInce this was announced, arachnogenesis has gone up to like 60$ ☠️💀💀☠️☠️💀
It's a good thing that I still have my copy lol Literally a WTF moment when I checked back at the current value for it.
Do you think Shelob, Dread Weaver would be good to slot in anywhere in this deck? I've been wanting to make a deck around spider for a while and wanted to ask and say thanks for the help on this one!
Was trying to make a spider deck in arena, is there a reason that like half the cards mentioned aren’t in arena?
Did they just not bother to add them, or something?
13:30 - Gyome is over 10$ now...
It would be kind of cool if we got a little bit of flavor text instead of a text wall of pushed abilities.
Yeah, but having cool interactions that have flavor is great instead. If we were just filling text without flavor then I am with you on your original comment.
Need a hug?
Riddle me this? Why doesn't he have reach?
I’d love to see you do a deck on the gaffer
Let´s go Mitch! It´s spider time 🕷
Seems like there wasnt too much black in it - what about that new shelob from Lotr set? I mean black one.
wouldn't fade from history be super nonbo since ur the one with all the food tokens?
Weird not to see thornbite staff mentioned on this. The same as the bow mentioned but also u taps the creature when something dies turns any deathtouch in to a board wipe
@@Destrudo5359 £7 Hardly seems like it breaks the bank. And it was less than that when I originally commented
What power level is this deck? Im not good at rating them and i want to play on spelltable. Dont want to miss lead anyone
Im building this just gotta figure out what to swap with the black shelob and archnogenisis
Hey. Brand new player here. Where can i buy these card for the arena?
I hope you do one of these for Shadowfax 😊😊
Wayfarer bauble in a green deck??
This channel loves that card
Yep…. The bauble is Mitches pet… and it’s back to being budget again!
Why does it boost OTHER spiders when there are only ONE other spider in the entire forgotten realms SET?!
(and that spider already has deathtouch to begin with)
Gyre chef has skyrocketed to like 40$...I replaced it with a drana, liberator of malikar
I love the the Name of this Video .... "A Tier Commander" ... in Germany the word "Tier" means "Animal" 😂 Shelob the Tier (Animal) Commander XD
As someone with arachnophobia, I'ma have to skip this one Mitch
If you control the spiders does that help with arachnophobia?
Academy manufacturer but I like the deck
Ah yes another crazy tribal for my collection.
Man so many of these cards are really high cmc this deck has like no speed even with God tier ramp luck you'd have mana but no cards
You should have been an auctioneer!
Rip to gyome master chef being budget…
so realistically, how strong is this commander? seems really good to me, but she never seems to win videos when she's involved, lol.
I remember when 6 cmc cards were 6/6's... thank God I don't play in this hobby anymore
Break the bank please❤
I mean fighting or pinging for one, your own platinum angel is pretty funny. I cant lose you cant win on an artifact, that i can sacrifice for 3, hilarious.
Most of the LOtR Cards are just busted as fuck, but thats how WotC just is these days. GEtting people to buy new cards has priority over keeping some illusion of balance
Use the tokens with the fight cards
What about obelisk spider
So are the tokens you make creatures, foods or both? Normally it'd say "in addition to its other types". Thematically I understand why it makes food artifacts but it'd be nice to be able to attack with the tokens. Really nice with archanogenesis
It says "it loses all other types" so it only is an Artifact Food token