I feel like the whole community thinks that the ending of the new Phyrexia threat was rushed. Phyrexians have been an enemy in magic since the beginning and in the last years, since Bolas' banishing, they were making moves towards this big goal of multiversal compleation. We get to see how much of a menace they are in Dominaria United and All will be one, and in March of the Machines, we get half of the stories where they are stomping everyone and everything feels hopeless, and the other half is just Norn throwing a tantrum at Elspeth. And then it ends. Tamiyo and Lukka die (which were the only good parts of the story) and all the other compleated planeswalkers either disappear or are cured; zhalfir is back in the multiverse, but not in Dominaria, so it's still isolated, and that's basically all. The stakes felt high, and it was a letdown. I feel like there should have been two or even three sets for this multiversal war, because this big event has been teased for a long time, and now we are just going back to Eldraine, with no apparent major consequences. Yeah, there's the aftermath set, but I'm pretty sure that will be mostly Nahiri getting cured, or something. I'm sorry for rambling, I just wanted to express my feelings about this issue here.
Isnt the big lasting effect that the planes are more or less connected now? Phyrexia used Realmbreaker to allow invasion on all the planes of the multiverse. Now that they are gone, certainly there is going to be unforeseen consequences of this manipulation.
Wait a minute I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian all stoped working just like in march of the machines when the oil came into contact with mirroden thank to Karn new phyrexian we’re born and we and they were defeated the same way so why are people made about it it’s like they forgot.
@@michaeltaylor788 No, they lost their will to fight and were destroyed after, not literally falling apart like in MOM (and the oil still worked). This is a big difference since it destroys any possibilities for leftover phyrexian pockets (e.g. on worlds that got completely overrun) like the one on new capenna.
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Literally mutated their entire body and minds, but enough plot armor means all the compleated planeswalkers (who didn't die) will be un-compleated. Gotta love WotC and their non-committal nature.
Has there ever been a story penned by wotc that was worth a damn? Cause the only one that comes to mind is Palanescape Torment, and that wasnt WotC, but Chris Avellone at Troika.
I think so too. Phyrexians feel like some sort of natural force of the mtg multiverse: you can try and limit the damage they do when they show up, but you can't completely and permanently destroy them. Defeating Yawgmoth didn't stop phyrexia, I don't think anything can
I was thinking Wotc would have made this similar to Infinty War and Endgame. Instead we got some rushed story and small glimpses of what happened on other planes.
I think it's SUCH bullshit that the Phyrexians just did the whole "And then the robots shut down" thing. It's not like there was anyone ordering the oil to compleat Mirrodin. It's almost like they've been trying to sweep the old baddies of magic out of the way to make room for their new storylines, continuity be damned.
I'm clinging on to the hope that the Oil reverted to its base instructions: survive and grow. As long as one drops of Oil exists, the Great Work continues.
I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian stoped working for example on new cappena the old phyrexian are outside the city like they are sleeping the same thing happened in march of the machines did people reading and or listening to the story forget ?.
@Michael Taylor The New Phyrexians were created by a single drop of the oil that dripped from Karn's Phyrexian-made hearthstone. It's been shown that the current Phyrexian invasion did not require direct orders, so it feels cheap for it to suddenly work differently than it used to.
@@NeoSlimey yea it was said the oil communicates with itself but Norn took it over completely so it only listens to her and or keeps working only for her Norn made a big mistake just like Yawgmoth.
Such threatening villains with an interesting lore behind built across decades... it would be such a pity if all of a sudden such relentess force of destructions happened to transform into little more than a mild nuisance of which the heroes could dispose with laughable ease.
They were defeated the same way when Yawgmoth died for example the old phyrexian outside the city of new cappena are are frozen like they are sleeping because they were connected to Yawgmoth just like new phyrexian were connected to Norn did people forget this?.
Love phyrexia and it's mechanics but it died with yawgmoth. Only norn was a worthy successor and if she truly is dead then all hope is lost. All hail the human centipede.
The oil connected all infected by it in a hive mind Norn (being a control freak she is she is the negative part of white mana after all ) after completely taking over connected the whole thing to her mind and her mind only so when she died she took the hive mind with her putting everything connected to it in a coma. No offense but when people don’t like a story they forget and or over look details in that story like I wrote above.
I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian stopped working . on new cappena they are outside the city like they are asleep so it did happen before the old and new phyrexian were defeated the same way so why are people mad about how they were defeated did they forget?.
Or you could have said something meaningful like "I'm glad to see a new Lorebrarians video" or "what was up with the lens flares at the beginning of the video"?
...and then the phyrexians all collectively slipped on a banana peel and fell into the blind eternities.
Honestly. Such a lame ending.
Ah yes, an epic battle involving the entire multiverse is just collectively slipping on a banana peel
@@thechurchofshulkanism1077 "epic"
@@thechurchofshulkanism1077 sorry but it was just super lame. Everyone offed without big effort by minor characters? Just embarrassing writing.
@@cheesy_87 your negative impression cant hurt my positive one.
What a cool set of villains. I sure hope they are defeated in a well written and believable way.
I feel like the whole community thinks that the ending of the new Phyrexia threat was rushed. Phyrexians have been an enemy in magic since the beginning and in the last years, since Bolas' banishing, they were making moves towards this big goal of multiversal compleation. We get to see how much of a menace they are in Dominaria United and All will be one, and in March of the Machines, we get half of the stories where they are stomping everyone and everything feels hopeless, and the other half is just Norn throwing a tantrum at Elspeth. And then it ends. Tamiyo and Lukka die (which were the only good parts of the story) and all the other compleated planeswalkers either disappear or are cured; zhalfir is back in the multiverse, but not in Dominaria, so it's still isolated, and that's basically all. The stakes felt high, and it was a letdown. I feel like there should have been two or even three sets for this multiversal war, because this big event has been teased for a long time, and now we are just going back to Eldraine, with no apparent major consequences. Yeah, there's the aftermath set, but I'm pretty sure that will be mostly Nahiri getting cured, or something. I'm sorry for rambling, I just wanted to express my feelings about this issue here.
Isnt the big lasting effect that the planes are more or less connected now? Phyrexia used Realmbreaker to allow invasion on all the planes of the multiverse. Now that they are gone, certainly there is going to be unforeseen consequences of this manipulation.
@@christianespinal9913 that’s right some planes were changed for a long time or forever.
Wait a minute I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian all stoped working just like in march of the machines when the oil came into contact with mirroden thank to Karn new phyrexian we’re born and we and they were defeated the same way so why are people made about it it’s like they forgot.
@@michaeltaylor788 No, they lost their will to fight and were destroyed after, not literally falling apart like in MOM (and the oil still worked). This is a big difference since it destroys any possibilities for leftover phyrexian pockets (e.g. on worlds that got completely overrun) like the one on new capenna.
@@hanswurst9394 they did say they were wrapping up the story with the phyrexian so it was a harder possibly worse loss for the new phyrexians
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In the beginning Argentum was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
New Lorebrarians video always makes my day ngl
Literally mutated their entire body and minds, but enough plot armor means all the compleated planeswalkers (who didn't die) will be un-compleated. Gotta love WotC and their non-committal nature.
Yeah the negate flavor text pretty nuch shows ajani being uncompleted. Which tbh I'm very happy about ajani is my favorite planeswalker next to sorin.
Has there ever been a story penned by wotc that was worth a damn? Cause the only one that comes to mind is Palanescape Torment, and that wasnt WotC, but Chris Avellone at Troika.
New Phyrexia made only one, fatal mistake. They assimilated Luca and his aura of fail drained all their coolness away.
They'll be back. Hopefully across more planes. Love them Phyrexians and their lore.
I think so too. Phyrexians feel like some sort of natural force of the mtg multiverse: you can try and limit the damage they do when they show up, but you can't completely and permanently destroy them. Defeating Yawgmoth didn't stop phyrexia, I don't think anything can
I will accept our phyrexian overlords with open arms. Let all be one!
For Mirrordin!
Down with the Phyrexians let them share the fate of Yawgmoth!
@@poenpotzu2865 your flesh in impure! Only completion will save you!
Admit it: you just wanna bang Norn.
All they need is a whisper of the Glorious Word.
@@Zerophimable and perhaps a touch of metal
Incredible lore video as always.
I was thinking Wotc would have made this similar to Infinty War and Endgame. Instead we got some rushed story and small glimpses of what happened on other planes.
I’m just curious what the point of paying for premium is when the video is interrupted by a built in ad.
I think it's SUCH bullshit that the Phyrexians just did the whole "And then the robots shut down" thing. It's not like there was anyone ordering the oil to compleat Mirrodin. It's almost like they've been trying to sweep the old baddies of magic out of the way to make room for their new storylines, continuity be damned.
I'm clinging on to the hope that the Oil reverted to its base instructions: survive and grow.
As long as one drops of Oil exists, the Great Work continues.
@@Enja_Near they said this might be the last story of the phyrexians so maybe no more oil.
I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian stoped working for example on new cappena the old phyrexian are outside the city like they are sleeping the same thing happened in march of the machines did people reading and or listening to the story forget ?.
@Michael Taylor The New Phyrexians were created by a single drop of the oil that dripped from Karn's Phyrexian-made hearthstone. It's been shown that the current Phyrexian invasion did not require direct orders, so it feels cheap for it to suddenly work differently than it used to.
@@NeoSlimey yea it was said the oil communicates with itself but Norn took it over completely so it only listens to her and or keeps working only for her Norn made a big mistake just like Yawgmoth.
Such threatening villains with an interesting lore behind built across decades... it would be such a pity if all of a sudden such relentess force of destructions happened to transform into little more than a mild nuisance of which the heroes could dispose with laughable ease.
They were defeated the same way when Yawgmoth died for example the old phyrexian outside the city of new cappena are are frozen like they are sleeping because they were connected to Yawgmoth just like new phyrexian were connected to Norn did people forget this?.
the good Phyrexian is an exiled one. I won't say a dead one cause we all know how those bastards work.
Amazing video! Can you make a video about Jace in the near future?
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What music do you play in the beginning? It's great!
It is an original piece created specifically for the channel! Same with the outro. Composed by Alex Wakim
@@TheLorebrarians Oh nice Thanks! If Alex ever posts the song in full that would be great!
Why Sheoldred not friend when friend shaped?
Which video is part 2
what was that anime tho
If only I had gpu acceleration so that I could see the effect
Love phyrexia and it's mechanics but it died with yawgmoth. Only norn was a worthy successor and if she truly is dead then all hope is lost. All hail the human centipede.
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Kinda makes you wonder how the phyrexian were defeated just because Norn died. Norn didn't exist when karn brought the oil to mirrodin.
Sloppy stuff.
The oil connected all infected by it in a hive mind Norn (being a control freak she is she is the negative part of white mana after all ) after completely taking over connected the whole thing to her mind and her mind only so when she died she took the hive mind with her putting everything connected to it in a coma.
No offense but when people don’t like a story they forget and or over look details in that story like I wrote above.
I just looked it up when Yawgmoth died the old phyrexian stopped working .
on new cappena they are outside the city like they are asleep so it did happen before the old and new phyrexian were defeated the same way so why are people mad about how they were defeated did they forget?.
@@michaeltaylor788Yeah, but then the oil made new phyrexia, so ???
@@average_person444 it was activated some how when the plane was created.
Phyrexians were cooler in older sets imo
Was that an mtg anime?
How was this video only released after the end of March of the machines story ark?
Some people just don't have time. You have no idea how busy this UA-camr is.
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Or you could have said something meaningful like "I'm glad to see a new Lorebrarians video" or "what was up with the lens flares at the beginning of the video"?
How was this video only released after the end of March of the machines story ark?
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