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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024

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  • @mlgrrd4718
    @mlgrrd4718 Місяць тому +61

    Don't worry Valky, SG will find a way to make cleave great again.... then turn 2.... then cleave again.... the cycle continues....

    • @CurtThaFlirt
      @CurtThaFlirt Місяць тому +2

      Lol still finding a way to complain. Go enjoy the unit, man. Damn

    • @mlgrrd4718
      @mlgrrd4718 Місяць тому +8

      @@CurtThaFlirt You know the history of this game, it's better to accept this than ignore it.

    • @CurtThaFlirt
      @CurtThaFlirt Місяць тому +1

      @@mlgrrd4718 and the same could be said in reverse, right? The game slows down then speeds up again.

    • @jokente1414
      @jokente1414 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@CurtThaFlirtthats literally the point of the comment are you blind lol

    • @hibari759
      @hibari759 Місяць тому +1

      @@mlgrrd4718 Harsetii is gonna be cleave and all the aggro and turn 2 players who didn't pull for illynav will be angry, bet

  • @wolfafe
    @wolfafe Місяць тому +28

    What was the last not must pull? ML Sharun i guess? It's kinda tiresome how all new MLs are just must pull and an answer to the entire meta. Pitying every mystic banner is not fun.

    • @RyanSobolik
      @RyanSobolik Місяць тому +4

      Having ML units that seem like they are garbage isn't fun either. I think it's actually fun that they are releasing strong ML5s every rotation now as the game changes quicker and we don't go back to the 10-12 months of all Arena defenses using SSB+Arby and that's it.

    • @templexdank2933
      @templexdank2933 Місяць тому +4

      Baby this unit is NOT a must pull, neither was Ml sharun

    • @wolfafe
      @wolfafe Місяць тому +2

      @@RyanSobolik there's difference between not being garbage and being game defining. What content creators atm say is that if you don't have ml illynav just delete the game why play and it's abit annoying when that is the case because ml senya was supposedly that op then ml luna and now illynav. Not everyone is capable of back to back pitying mystic banners. Ml sharun example is she's very good but she's not game defining.

    • @wolfafe
      @wolfafe Місяць тому +4

      @@templexdank2933 I think you failed to understand my post. I didn't call ml sharun must pull, she's the last ml released that I can think of which wasn't a must pull.

    • @greenshell1121
      @greenshell1121 Місяць тому +2

      Its the netmarble guy formula.
      F2p friendly at first then go p2w full throttle. 🤣

  • @zynczinc1443
    @zynczinc1443 Місяць тому +36

    "So broken aaaahhh"
    Literally next week with Frida : "Allow me to introduce my best friend, Moona" 😁

    • @bumblebee51
      @bumblebee51 Місяць тому +2

      Bro that's the SINGLE decent counter in the whole game. Even then none of them silence so she's gonna cleanse the moment you look at any of her friends

    • @abdulzaelani9954
      @abdulzaelani9954 Місяць тому +3

      If we don't consider moona, Believe it or not, Broman actually kinda work against her. Def break + 2 turn silence prevent her cleanse and also stop laia and handguy. The issue? 75% is not good odds, and you will need to build him with ton of effectiveness while also very fast

    • @SoyRafito12
      @SoyRafito12 Місяць тому +4

      Saying “ML Luna exits” when she completely shut down any passive skill unit in general is not an option, + you can just use a cleanse like laia and all Luna works doesn’t exist any more also.

    • @-8h-
      @-8h- Місяць тому

      Leave it to cleave players to somehow be more braindead than standard players

    • @-8h-
      @-8h- Місяць тому

      ​​@@SoyRafito12It's a valid statement since one or two units just existing completely nullified the existence of other units for years. And it's always in favour of speed players

  • @kerneljoseph5094
    @kerneljoseph5094 Місяць тому +5

    as a small minigame, you all can check to see how many times a random person pulls Ilynav in the channel notification of this video to really understand how desired she is

  • @Jason-qs1eh
    @Jason-qs1eh Місяць тому +8

    So a tank that actually does tanking instead of dealing 163727382 dmg

  • @princesharming8693
    @princesharming8693 Місяць тому +3

    I bet Harsetti and Shadow Rose are going to be the next counter to MLIlynav

  • @Mustar1989
    @Mustar1989 Місяць тому +4

    I think the problem might be the fact that Pen was a mistake and the fix to the mistake came way late and at a bad time. That being said Ilynav has always been my fav unit so I'm still using her even if they nerf.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому +3

      If you trace back this logic it means units like carmin or fcc with aurius are a mistake since def pen was a response to that meta.
      carmin/fcc type tanks were a response to classic cleave.
      card/gacha games are just a revolving door of the next broken thing so it's a natural evolution but they might have accidentally shifted the power balance more than intended this time.

    • @Mustar1989
      @Mustar1989 Місяць тому

      @@Valky Well no the logic is that Defense penetration is a problem overall. And generally speaking when ever it gets added to a game it immediately becomes a balancing nightmare and one of the most divisive things in the community.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому +1

      @@Mustar1989 well if you trace the logic defense pen was necessitated by stacking dmg mitigation.
      stacking mitigation was necessitated by the fact that dmg had 3 multiplying stats (atk, crit, cdmg) while defending had 2 (hp, def) with diminishing returns.
      so based on that logic then the root of the problem would be how survivability is designed in E7 and everything else was a necessary band-aid fix.

  • @LoliPoodz
    @LoliPoodz Місяць тому +1

    knew it since leak... too broken. great video valk!

  • @kirinni2021
    @kirinni2021 Місяць тому +1

    Next season is about to give us the nastiest I-Want-To-End-Legend drafts since the Four Horsemen

  • @OneMoreDesu
    @OneMoreDesu Місяць тому +3

    Best design, amazing kit. I knew episode 3 MLs would be bonkers, but they are really something else.

  • @MrTyJacks
    @MrTyJacks Місяць тому +4

    that is definitely bad idea to give her Aurius since if she dead, those Penetration resistance is gone.
    you are just going to play her as tanky as possible or tank with good dmg to heal/lifesteal from her S1.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      if you're playing aurius she's gonna be way more than reasonably tanky anyway since she's not gonna need dps stats.

  • @Razexxi
    @Razexxi Місяць тому +3

    I didn't get bmh so hopefully ml ilynav is good. That said I still am at 50 pulls left before pity

  • @zethroth0077
    @zethroth0077 Місяць тому +2

    ML Luna and monk rn are just must have characters rn

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      don't count on a tank down player letting you have either. as a response not letting them have ilynav and prebanning is the best solution.

  • @Michael-y9o5g
    @Michael-y9o5g Місяць тому

    I have a burning hatred for the current meta, so for now, as is, she's the absolute best ML pickup I've had in my one year of playing. She may not be available for RTA anytime soon, but I'll enjoy her stomping around gw and Reg Arena.

  • @DarkrulerjoeGaming
    @DarkrulerjoeGaming Місяць тому

    It's fine, I'll just bring out Lilibet more. Sure Ilynav will make Lilibet's Pen set useless but she still has one of the highest scaling damage skills that don't have any Pen in it so now Lilibet one of the highest damage dealers when they got Ilynav lol.

  • @rozalius_2360
    @rozalius_2360 Місяць тому

    One of the ways to balance her out will be "except for the caster" in her passive, nothing will happen though, so "deal with it" like every other unit so far lol.

  • @Minister-Peter-V1-Church
    @Minister-Peter-V1-Church Місяць тому

    I’m a new player and I just bought her, heard a lot of negative feedback (from people who didn’t pull her) this put my mind to rest.

  • @granite1106
    @granite1106 Місяць тому +3

    Its time for arch demon buff

  • @mrperfect3399
    @mrperfect3399 Місяць тому +2

    Okay I see she is tough but I would have actually like to see the games that reset her or seal her. Or even characters to do more damage based on the difference in speed.

    • @mrperfect3399
      @mrperfect3399 Місяць тому

      For example could you nuke her with LPK? Or can you tank down harder and win with ainz?

    • @xhydrox
      @xhydrox Місяць тому +3

      She literally has THE tankiest base stats in the game. No unit that doesn't rely on def pen comes close to being able to kill her easily.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      I mean I agree that seal does a lot vs her but I was draft as any tank down player would, with luna and nahkwol prebans. If you think high rank RTA players will play this draft without the precaution of banning luna nahkwol then you haven't seen competitive RTA.

  • @RejectHumanityReturn2Monke
    @RejectHumanityReturn2Monke Місяць тому +1

    I see SG do the fastest nerf in history. 30% pen resist is too much. Empynav on counter without artifact will reduce more damage than protection Albedo on Aurius. That's mental.

    • @xhydrox
      @xhydrox Місяць тому

      I'll take a 5 star selector

    • @wolfafe
      @wolfafe Місяць тому +1

      @@xhydrox sounds like you'll be taking a whiff of that copium

  • @rampagepotato4307
    @rampagepotato4307 Місяць тому +2

    She can also activate fire Corvus. Actual cancer combo.

  • @JeromeKJB
    @JeromeKJB Місяць тому

    Aria works great with whatever build type you run her with but her hardest counter is Peira

  • @jeresaur
    @jeresaur Місяць тому

    This unit is fine because I promise you arch demon is going to get a buff that let's her seal more often and remove immunity

  • @byceph
    @byceph Місяць тому +3

    Well, that was necessary to change the meta cuz every rta unit right now is jenua ml haste ml senya laia etc...
    And in a game where you can't expect to have nerfs, then there's no other way but to deal with this unit to change the meta. The real problem is people who are gonna spam this and then pick the units i mentionned earlier. But overall, we needed something to balance the defense stat cuz that was gonna be as useless as "ER" with every unit that has ignore ER now and i clearly don't want this

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      of course its' a natural evolution of a gacha/card game but there were other ways around the meta. Now that pen resistance is a thing what's next? pen resistance resistance? it's a keywords weapons race that doesn't play into existing interacting mechanics within the game.

    • @byceph
      @byceph Місяць тому

      @@Valky And that's the reason i prefer nerfs in order to balance the game, so we can rebuff them later to change the meta without create monsters like this. But yeah, the community doesn't care about that...

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      @@byceph idk which community you're in. but the general "the community" I hang around in has been asking SG for nerfs for 5 years lol

    • @byceph
      @byceph Місяць тому

      @@Valky Well, a lot of people were upset about hwayoung nerfs but i was so happy it happened and i thought they were gonna continue in this way but a lot of the community wasn't pleased from what i've heard

  • @yimyom
    @yimyom Місяць тому +1

    Woe is me because I don't have the bookmarks to get her. This is getting ridiculous with the influx of the new meta breaking units.
    I've been trying to break into RTA but every single bloody time, new unit wow and my inexperienced ass is put off rta even more.
    I hate this.

  • @Lmaxter500
    @Lmaxter500 Місяць тому +2

    The meta sucked. We needed her.

  • @zaidan4729
    @zaidan4729 Місяць тому +1

    Its time for ainz to shine

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      see this goes right into what I said at the end there. it forces you to play terrible units against her, which lose hard to the good units in the game.

  • @VR_win
    @VR_win Місяць тому

    Does she really need to be in rage set or normal tank set would suffice?

  • @ajabacan1886
    @ajabacan1886 Місяць тому

    luna still her main archnemesis. so if you think your opponent bans luna, mind as well ban ilynav

  • @Mac-ek8ug
    @Mac-ek8ug Місяць тому

    that bgm is from pgr right? 😮

  • @Era2Sunrise
    @Era2Sunrise Місяць тому +1

    It feels really bad to play against her, idk. 30% do be a lot.

  • @Aron26_2
    @Aron26_2 Місяць тому

    How hard do u think it will be to play next RTA Season Without her as a T2 player? i'm F2P and i couldn't farm enough summons to pity her after Senya so unless i get insane luck i'll probably not be able to pull her...

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      preban her and luna and prepare your draft for laia vs ddr drafts

  • @thratakoyosa
    @thratakoyosa Місяць тому

    Tried with rocket punch on 3k def 20k+ hp also works wonders

  • @pandaemang7123
    @pandaemang7123 Місяць тому +2

    Does she needs to be built for bruiser full crit cdmg or can you just go with like a tanky ER build to make her last longer and be annoying asf? 🤔

    • @JaoVile948
      @JaoVile948 Місяць тому +4

      She works in any way tbf

    • @thratakoyosa
      @thratakoyosa Місяць тому

      Her dmg will be roughly the same with whatever set you give except if you put a decent amount on er

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      build her however you want. as long as she exists, she's good lol

  • @r34l1z3r
    @r34l1z3r Місяць тому

    SG forgot how many units has def pen(70-50%) in their kits

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому +1

      and that a lot of bruisers even, rely heavily on penetration set.

  • @CanyouTheMan
    @CanyouTheMan Місяць тому

    Yeah, I noticed that DPS has been reliant of defense pen for a long time. Name a modern DPS that doesn't require built in penetration, or a def break set up. You can't.

  • @TedME-j6u
    @TedME-j6u Місяць тому

    I got tired of Netmarble guy formula of pay to win RTA. Where’s that Lulutruck with his name on it?

  • @LULLINK
    @LULLINK Місяць тому +5

    Hot Take: all of the global effects should be for both teams. Belian, Soli, etc

    • @for_loopa
      @for_loopa Місяць тому +1

      this, ignore game mechanics passive should affect both sides, just like Briseria

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому +2

      yeah I think it would address a lot of issues with her & other units like belian, ayufine, moli and such

  • @5point0david
    @5point0david Місяць тому +2

    Oh no.... we get a unit that actually allows those of us without an account full of +30 spd gear to play the game?! Oh god, someone tell smilegate this is the end of the game!

    • @got3269
      @got3269 Місяць тому

      Who tf have that shit 30 spd lol

    • @thellewdude
      @thellewdude Місяць тому

      I don't think that helps you since you just described how it has a p2w aspect lol

    • @5point0david
      @5point0david Місяць тому

      @thellewdude not sure what you mean, but I was being facetious. All I'm saying is that as speed is a BS rng Stat where cleave and control players just out speed you, and you don't get to play the game. Speed players get 0 sympathy from me, as basically every character that comes out these days is "go fast win game." Of course, Frida coming out is looking to preserve the Status quo because God forbid the people who don't constantly luck sack high-speed rolls and actually get to play the game for once.

    • @thellewdude
      @thellewdude Місяць тому +1

      @@5point0david Oh trust me, I'm an "F*** speed turn 2 for life" kinda player (mainly thanks to Jenua, Apoc Ravi ,Laia , and Mercedes), but Elynav brings up the problem of pay to win by being so difficult to get. If she was limited, it would be different, but moonlight summoning is very anti f2p.

  • @bancha869
    @bancha869 Місяць тому

    damn man.. perma ban is confirmed for this unit for sure

  • @porkyvonchop6458
    @porkyvonchop6458 Місяць тому

    sg: lets nerf one op unit~ hwayoung, and then we release more op unit

    • @r34l1z3r
      @r34l1z3r Місяць тому

      "Lets find a counter for jenua, haste and senya"
      - cripples almost all damage dealers released since 2020

    • @Starxsword
      @Starxsword Місяць тому

      I'm sure you already know. But she fully counters pre-nerfed Hwayoung.

  • @kryptotello
    @kryptotello Місяць тому +3

    It needs to be reduced to -15% penetration instead of 30. Still impacts game, but not to these extremes. And I'm a turn 2 player

    • @harryosborn4942
      @harryosborn4942 Місяць тому

      reduce your ducking face frome here

    • @r34l1z3r
      @r34l1z3r Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, 30% damage mitigarion sounds okay. 3k damage from seline or 4k counter from ml ken or 6k from trauma yufine isnt right

  • @smoldisappointment
    @smoldisappointment Місяць тому

    I wish they would stop pushing so many ml bc they are just so much harder to grind mystics for. With BM at least I can sit there and shop refresh and maybe get lucky and get a lot but mystic are so much less seen on there that I’m never going to get her till she comes around that’s assuming the next mls aren’t worth pulling (almost impossible at this point :-|). They also are promoting the $50 one for her and at this point I’m thinking of it bc like why not maybe I’ll get lucky and be at least almost on equal levels with everyone who has the newer ml units. Idk maybe in ranting on but it does make me feel like I have to spend just to maybe stay safe in my place. I’m getting tried if trying to pull for all the new mls or limited unites sorry

  • @jeresaur
    @jeresaur Місяць тому

    But really. Tho I love her and thinks she's fine.

  • @plague5223
    @plague5223 Місяць тому

    just curiuse but can she even be cleaved? i mean only be ml luna right? or maybe monk?

    • @morkalavin
      @morkalavin Місяць тому

      Of course she can. You just need damage not penetration. Def break still helps, though.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому +1

      said this in a bunch of comments but slow players who play her will next let you get luna or monk

  • @portaelrex
    @portaelrex Місяць тому

    Laia s3 is also def pen right?

  • @RokudaSayn
    @RokudaSayn Місяць тому

    hopefully my cpavel can deal with this new unit

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      sorry to report that is also a defense pen unit

  • @got3269
    @got3269 Місяць тому

    720p in 2024 noway

  • @onmymamatimes3
    @onmymamatimes3 Місяць тому

    bro we had the last 3 units be unhealthy for the game. like lets be real. we got an actual tank that don't allow you to one shot everything. lol we don't even have a strong counter to luna. let the turn 2 have they fun.

  • @dauxgaming577
    @dauxgaming577 Місяць тому

    Yay shes going to be perma ban

  • @CheonM4a
    @CheonM4a Місяць тому

    Most of the fights you've shown us, you didn't even have mit on your team

  • @aura7342
    @aura7342 Місяць тому

    This unit is broken but I'll be real. After SPP and Moona I have 0 mercy for any aggro player lol. Fck the game I'll build the wall of china 40000K ehp draft.

  • @ExpelMire
    @ExpelMire Місяць тому

    yeah, that's a perma ban

  • @Your_LastSurprise
    @Your_LastSurprise Місяць тому +1

    Literally just pitied CPavel 2 days ago.. fml lol

  • @y_strikes2770
    @y_strikes2770 Місяць тому

    Nice copyrighted PGR music.

  • @Yewrenegade
    @Yewrenegade Місяць тому

    So cleave can finally take a seat in the speed department, GOOD. They need a break, too much penetration to the point RTA is pregnant with speed checks. If anyone can beat an Illyanav without being salty, they deserve a crown for skill

  • @glazedgooch4546
    @glazedgooch4546 Місяць тому

    God what an annoying guy

  • @anon7945
    @anon7945 Місяць тому

    SG be faster in creating the solution niche unit to counter ML Ilynav!

  • @DampedCoast
    @DampedCoast Місяць тому +2

    Its funny, everyone complained how useless Bm Haste was for the longest time anx he finally gets a rework and now everyone whines about how broken he is lol

    • @acosta7720
      @acosta7720 Місяць тому +1

      What a crime, people want heroes to be good and usable without them being completely overturned 😮

  • @noppgoson4760
    @noppgoson4760 Місяць тому

    That a whale logic. Imagine I don't have all ml units you talking about.

    • @Valky
      @Valky  Місяць тому

      if you don't have a handful of MLs to answer her then you need her to play the game even more.

  • @-8h-
    @-8h- Місяць тому

    Probably your biggest L take in a long time

    • @ghosty9966
      @ghosty9966 Місяць тому +1

      whats the reason?

    • @leekyonion
      @leekyonion Місяць тому

      @@ghosty9966 the characters that have been released have not been good for the game. BMH was overtuned for the game. So the meta has basically revolved around completely sniping key characters and having game being determined by how many people you can one shot. That's like the least interactive game on planet earth. Ilynav is a solution to the problem that is more deeply rooted in the current mechanics of the game - like how BMH was designed STRICTLY to handle Arby way back in the day. The problem is still there, we're only putting a bandage on the bullet wound.
      Valky then complains that his strat doesn't work but he should be more upset at the state of the game that in order to make a useful character, they must invalidate other characters. He's groaning about Lilynav when he should actually be groaning about how overtuned every unit since the last 6 months have been and the only way to make a good character is to completely take a fat dump on the previous 4 broken, overtuned, brainless characters

  • @rubo0686
    @rubo0686 Місяць тому +2

    The perfect example of a must pull, she is awesome, and neccesary overall